How the family treats Kourtney reminds me a lot of reactive abuse, they keep going after her and nitpicking at her and digging and poking until she has had enough and blows, and then suddenly she is enemy number 1.
I think what’s missing in the years leading up to this conversation is that a LOT of what they are defining as her “toxic” behavior is them trying to get her to go along with things she flat-out says multiple times she does NOT want to do. They continue to harangue her, and she continues to refuse. Eventually they wear her down and she agrees to do it, but is understandably resentful. And that’s what they describe as Kourtney being “difficult.” Of course, that’s not every single interaction. But it’s a HUGE pattern. So, what they are referring to when they say, “We just don’t know what to do with Kourtney,” - what they are referring to is her resistance to compliance regardless of her own wishes. It’s messed up!
To be fair (and I loathe to defend anyone whose surname is Kardashian) it seems like there are a lot of scapegoat/golden child dynamics in that family. Their mom doesn’t hide who her favorites are, as the oldest Kourtney got the worst of their parents divorce and before their brother was the scapegoat and now that he left, it seems like Kourtney’s turn. She was very all in with the show for years and now that she wants to take on less it seems to be a problem. Also due to their family being a brand, there just aren’t the usual boundaries there’d be in a typical family.
It's easy to point the finger at Kourtney here without context. The entire family dynamic is so toxic that none of them can be truly vulnerable in these "mediation" sessions. Whatever comes out gets used against that person. The comment you praised Kim for is actually peak gaslighting because she is the main manipulator. The goal isn't conflict resolution. The goal is to generate more drama.
I agree. But also: even if they had a healthy family dynamic, the fact that they’re using „heart to heart talks“ to generate more cloud is so toxic in itself that it’d never work either way…
Hi Jono, Alot of the stuff in this video was very helpful and informative except for one thing. The thing I'm talking about is the commentary that you made about Khloe's shirt that showed a sliver and I mean a SLIVER of skin. It felt like you were, in a way, "slutshaming" her. Basically blaming her for distracting YOU when the problem lied with you being distracted by something so insignificant in the first place. She wasn't naked and she was in fact actually mostly covered up. She was also in a session with her sisters not with the Pope. I feel that the importance is what she is saying and not even what she was even wearing. That's it. Thank you.
She should be able to wear whatever she wants and still be taken seriously, i feel personally disapointed in this segment about her clothing. I hate that when a woman is comftrble in her skin and just wears something she finds cute, she is deminished and slutshamed and treated like her words no longer matter. Not saying that Jono is slutshaiming anybody, i just felt a little hurt when he drew attention to that instead of what she was saying - as if that was the most important take away from the scene. I get that it can be important sometimes to follow dresscodes and be ”appropriate” but this is their show, where they are allowed to express themselves however they want. And she is not responsible for other peoples feelings about it and how ”distracted” they get. It just gives a little ”you asked for it, because of your short skirt” kind of vibe. Disapointing. @MendedLight
I 100% agree with this comment. I felt as if there was more important things to talk about during clips 0:48 - 0:56. Instead of talking about what she's wearing.. how about let's dig deep on what made Khloe feel that way towards Kourtney, how did Kourtney get that way, etc. etc. Then again, this is also a TH-cam Channel and not just an 'family therapy session.
Entirely right. You're distracted ? That's your issue. I did not even notice anything about her cleavage until Jono brought attention to it. And the mention of the fact that it's particularly inappropriate because she's talking about her family... what's the relevance ? It is just reenforcing stereotypes of the way women should behave when they are in the family space.
💯 agree I don't understand what's so inappropriate and "bold" to have a (narrow!) decolletage while talking about your family (or anything else!). Like, what's appropriate then, maybe to talk about breastfeeding?
No offence to the guy, I’ve never seen any of his other videos and maybe I stumbled onto a bad one, but he seemed very judgmental for a therapist. Talking about them being “rich reality stars” as if to say rich people problems aren’t as serious and the comment about her clothes… 👀 very different from other therapists I’ve watched on this platform
kinda disappointed in the comment you made because a person's clothing shouldn't define what they should and shouldn't be able to talk about. your distraction is something you should work on.
Related to what you're talking about at 4minutes in, I was having an argument with my sister (over text) and I said " you're TREATING me like I'm..." and her response was "I never SAID you were..." and it was so frustrating cuz the time it would take to explain that she read it wrong and then go on it wouldn't get far...and this was far into the argument and i was done by this point cuz she wasn't listening to understand
Would love to see the episode where they sit down with the therapist and Rob. I feel a lot of his problems stem from being in that toxic family environment without his dad around to guide him in life.
There’s a part in this conversation she has where Khloe talks about how she can get her feelings out & not cry & she’s seen as more aggressive. I was hoping to hear your opinion on that.
I watch the show cuz my sister does and yeh, you can get sucked in 😂. They’re people, and people are interesting. I like the character aspect of things. Thanks for the vid!
I mean this family gave up ethics a long time ago. One of the sisters did a s...tape with the mother being the promoter behind it. If that doesnt say what it is with this family.
I saw this show many, many years ago, I think it was when it was barely starting, and the reason I saw this was because my ex-sisters in law like to watch it; anyhow, I noticed that they started acting so toxic, just like them, towards each other and others around, ( like towards me) it was getting so out of hand, I was getting depressed and I was having conflicting feelings all over. The entertainment was no fun pastime anymore, and the reality was a nightmare. It was like I couldn't escape this vicious cycle. Once, I was able to have my own space (because I was living with them for some time) I found myself putting on this "show" or how I call it, mental torture, then I realize I was feeling all those things again, thankfully I caught myself going into the rabbit hole on time, turned around and I made a promise to myself and my future mental pace to N E V E R put on this show again, and I have been soo happy and at peace since. This is so toxic to the masses who watch this it should be banned. It seems like not much has changed in the way they conduct themselves.
I'm sorry but if your sister's in laws mimicked the behavior on the show that's on them not the show. Plenty of ppl watched the show and didn't cause drama.
@@jclyntoledo I agreed their nature is to be like that, but I also have the firm belief that what you eat, what you watch, and who you are with, can impact your personality. (depending on the quantity of course).
Did he ever apologized for the shirt comment? I wpuld really like to see some reaction. It seems inappropriate to comment on somebody's clothing when you are in a role of a therapist and they are being vulnerable. Imagine, in the extreme case, she would be a victim of r*pe, that would probably end any kind of attempts for a therapists - client relationship
These people have so much money it baffles me they don’t have an actual therapist help them in a group setting! Guess that wouldn’t be good for ratings if they didn’t argue 😂
I don't believe the authenticity of any of it. I don't believe we get to meet the real people here, could be that not only the fights are scripted and staged but the sound advice we saw in this episode too. I'd rather watch some other "therapist reacts to" show xyz
@MendedLight i think he needs to see to this because people dont need more women to be devalued because of what they wear and i feel kinda hurt that he had to comment on it and before what shes saying and feeling.
For years they have been ganging up on Kourtney if you watched the show you would understand her anger. Kim even called her the ugliest in the family, its actually sad how they treat her and then make it seem like she has issues.
Kourtney literally spent years attacking her siblings constantly. She was literally known as the bitch which is fine just be self aware. Don’t play victim when someone matches your energy. And don’t be surprised that when you put your hands on someone they’ll hit you back 😂
It's a dynamic, it means she is part of the engine for that dynamic happening, she gains some benefit to be there in a certain way as the rest of the people involve in the dynamic, otherwise the dynamic stopped and the people involved would accommodate themselves to other roles, it's kind of a synchronization
@@lillyroman4201 That is what I believed also until I re-watched and saw how KIM was badmouthing Kourtney behind her back constantly and telling her constantly that Scott cheating is her fault...I am sorry..Kim was vicious from the beginning..laughing at somebody's crying face because they lost an earring is not the same thing
@@daniellak.7521 Kim literally told Kourt that because once they had a kid,she made Scott to sleep in another room from her n wasn't giving him enough attention n she just said "he'll cheat on u" not that him cheating was her fault....u guys like victimization Kourt,she's also taken digs at Kim n was wrong so many times
@@risizirevlon4338 This is how it started, but Kim did worse than that. You clearly missed the scene where Kim payed a visit to Kourtney laying on her bed and saying the exact same thing I just stated. Go re-watch it,please..Kim has this pattern..now Khloe is facing that, too. So who is actually the problem?
I appreciate all of your knowledge & your helpful commentary/suggestions, but I did just want to offer some feedback on the comment about Khloe's shirt. I can't help but feel like the "distraction" stems from the oversexualization of breasts. I'm not saying that sex is the first thing coming to mind, but I do wonder if the same comment would have been made if someone without breasts was wearing the same thing 🤷🏽 May be something to reflect on
Jono, I don't know if this is how you get sucked into reality shows or not, but I know it's DEFINITELY how my roommate got me sucked into the world of KPop 😂 one short clip at a time....
Johnathan. Do not comment on women's clothing. This is the first video of yours on here or Cinema that I've watched since the messed up DID video and this is what I'm greeted with? Like, that's messed up bro. Please don't do that again
Kim reaction to Kourtney is the result of years of Kourtney behaviour towards her in the early seasons when hoesntly Kourtney should have targeted that towards their parents because both their parents held Kim front and center
This is the first time I’ve genuinely been disappointed by Jono’s comment on Khloe’s shirt. He usually is so on the nose with things…but that was so wrong. Made my stomach drop
And while I think Jono has all the rights to tell that he is distracted by her decolltage, i don't get what he means by other things he said: "it's a bold choice, to have your shirt unbuttoned while talking about you family, but maybe it was hot there". Why can't she have her shirt as unbuttoned as she wants in her tv show? Why is it inappropriate to have it unbuttoned while talking about your family? Like is she talking the king of Saudi Arabia, in SA or what?😂 Why being hot there is like the possible justification of her wearing it, though she doesn't need any reasons to wear her shirt however she wants to?! So, trying to use I statements😅like Jono showed here (the best explanation and demonstration i ever heard❤ ) When Jono said that I felt like he is slutshaming and blaming her for him being distracted and implying his views of what's appropriate and what's not to everybody. Makes me defencive, angry and disappointed. I say that as a muslim girl who is very sick and tired of men telling women how to wear and blaming them for their reactions.
Hi, I completely agree with you and was looking for at least one comment that explained how I was feeling! Funnily enough I am not Muslim, but I do live in KSA haha I don't understand why he felt it was necessary to comment on the way she is dressed and frankly I clicked off the video afterwards. It made me feel gross.
I usually rag on reality TV, but this actually reminded me a lot of interactions with my stepdad before we cut contract with each other. I agree that (assuming this is genuine) it seems kinda unethical to broadcast this.
For anyone who needs this: - describe the situation you’re reacting to. - Express your opinion and what you’re feeling. - Assert what you want - Reward by explaining the positive effects of getting what you want. - Maintain the conversation topic. - (have an) Assertive/ confident posture - Negotiate
This looks so familiar... my husband is in a family buisness. He's the 'kourtney'. His brother is pretty emotional and extrovert. He uses lots of hurtful words to explain his feelings to my husband. My husband closes down because he is getting blamed unreasonably. Then his brother escalades his verbal attacks... laying on blame. My husband is the scapegoat. I know if he wouldn't stonewall and would stand up just a bit and explain himself it would difuse quickly. He just doesn't like conflict and feels entirely misunderstood. I get frustrated because I know they need to talk about it. How do you stop someone from laying all the blame on? Take responsality for something right away? He just accepts being misunderstood but it affects how he lives. I'd really like to know. As his wife we both really hurt because their is no appreciation every shared. Just others sharing their feelings and blaming us. One period of time, when things got bad, I started having anxiety attacks around them and went into depression. Because I seen how much they hurt my husband and he had to show up to work with them everyday. I don't know how to help him communicate. He's very introvert. But his silence makes them add on the layers.... they don't realize that silence doesn't mean your not hearing and feeling every word used against you. I think some 'khloe's' feel better after these talks because they vented. And if your a 'kourtney' the venting does nothing for you. Like she said, this isn't a productive conversation bringing up the past. Sounds like something my husband would say. He'd rather talk about mindset change for the future.
I don’t know whether this would work, but what if your husband wrote a letter detailing and explaining everything that he never got to say and that pinpoints where exactly the problems usually are blamed on him - and you sit there and listen and shush everyone that tries to interfere so that your husband gets to talk for once? Make it clear that he never gets the chance to show his side because others use their louder voices to tune him out and that they need to hear him out now?
I’m so sad that you made the comment about Khole’s shirt. I think many of us were able to watch this without being distracted or even noticing it. (Because it’s completely irrelevant)
Your a woman as men it’s easier to be distracted but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to act on it but what we think cannot be controlled it just happens we don’t control how we feel this goes both with men and women
That’s exactly how you get sucked in!! I think everyone initially kind of hates any reality TV show before you go into watching it, because we all know it’s going to be ridiculous… but that’s what makes it great & doesn’t let you stop watching.
I feel for Kourtney 100%. She is the family scapegoat. I don't think you are qualified to make the judgements you have here without being a long time viewer of the show.
also they never resolve those problems alone, there is always someone to watch and keep khloes or kims back, kourtney is always alone and has no one in her defense
I think this is the beautiful thing about this family and I know it's an unpopular opinion but they do grow. How they acted towards each other in the earlier seasons of Keeping Up with the Kardashians to the later seasons of the new show the Kardashians they deal with their problems a little healthier now example the new fight between Kim and Kourtney about Dolce & Gabbana at this fight happened during Keeping Up with the Kardashians in the previous Seasons Kim and Kourtney would have gotten into another physical fight and it would have lasted a longer time but Kim really did try to see where Kourtney was coming from and she stated that over and over again but it became harder because Kourtney didn't want to talk to her so other things got filtered in and out but I am glad that they were able to work and mend a relationship.
In the earlier Seasons Kourtney was a bully she would always try to say the most hurtful things to Khloé or Kim specifically always Kim. Now maybe there is some emotional trauma about that because Kim might remind her a lot of their mother when it comes to the work aspect of things but it doesn't mean she has the right to take it out on Kim. I believe that because the Kardashians grew up with money and they had access to better things in life when people hear that they automatically believe that these women don't have any trauma or any issues. They're a life wasn't a stable one just because they had money doesn't mean that everything was happy all the time there is deep-rooted issues in the family and I'm glad that they still stick together and they love each other and they're working through it life is messy and things get messy however it's how they move on that matters to me they take family vacations and they talk about things and they are it out and sometimes we never see them do that and that's fine they deserve that privacy we are not entitled to seeing every inch of their life. But we can't ignore the fact that some of the times the sisters have said and done some really mean things to each other specifically with Kourtney Kardashian and Kim Kardashian those two are the closest in age so yes they have a lot of issues with each other they remember their parents divorce more. Kourtney Kardashian had a problem with her mother's infidelity and in some way she has now Twisted her mind that Kim is the equivalent of their mother when it comes to the sense of business-wise because Kim is very much like Kris she is a businesswoman she is smart.
I feel for Kourtney bc yes she looks like the a hole when she blows up, but when she is fighting to defend herself from her sisters and their toxic behaviors, and then she finally blows up from not being heard. Then they try to play the victim and play this card like Kourtney is a ticking time bomb... I am going through this myself and though I need to learn how to draw better boundaries and stick to them without blowing up, it can be hard when no one wants to listen to you or take your emotions and needs seriously... And blowing up like this doesn't ever make anything better, but we get sick of being walked all over and pushed around that we for once want to make sure people effing hear us this time and we want to defend ourself and we think that maybe this time they will see how much their behavior is affecting us.... But they never do... and we are expected to take accountability for our actions and never them and the cycle starts over again with them disrespecting us over and over and we ask nicely over and over for them to stop and then BOOM another explosion... I connect with her in this behavior and I hope she can find a way around that part to get to a better communication with her toxic sisters.
Interesting. My theory is that the Kardashian family has some covert narcissists, Kim being one of them and Khloe being a flying monkey. And it truly is unproductive to try to hash things out with narcissists and their enablers. Not saying Kourtney may not have some toxic traits but at least she is the only one getting therapy trying to work through hers.
This is not your your Mom begging you to do something, it’s your BOSS having to beg you to fulfill contractual obligations: which will have your behind fired in an instant in real life. Kourtney is lazy, Kendall is selectively anxious, if they don’t like to be on camera they can leave and find new streams of income but they refuse because they need the fame as leverage to continue to monetize their existence 🥴 I feel so bad for Kim and Khloe being dragged down by the rest
When it comes to mental and emotional abuse You can only be forced if you let someone force you what’s really stopping her from leaving and setting the boundary
@@wolf2966 I understand what you mean. But this is hollywood, there is a lot of money involved and contracts. I don't think they will let her goes that easily the whole concept is about the 3 main sisters.
I love these reactions, i really identify with some of the sister fighting and everything Jono is saying about it makes me think about how well or bad I’m managing my situations. And yes Jono this is Exactly how you get sucked in!!!😂😂😂
I understand Kourtney because her and Khloe we're the closest just watch the early seasons of the kardasians but now Khloe is now closer to Kim. Kourtney and Khloe we're so hilarious together. Now Khloe became sucked up to the fame and life style with Kim and Kourtney is wanting to retire because she carried the show for year's but her family won't let her. Because at the end of the day they know that. They know they just don't want to ever admit it.
I think a-lot of people don’t realize how smart kim actually is she has a law degree and has worked on multiple ethics projects and its sad because of her reputation from her younger years
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the 8 passengers case. Specifically in regards to Jodi Hildibrant (I'm sure I butchered the spelling there). She sounds like more of a cult leader than a therapist according to the victims that have come forward.
To my knowledge they don't really fight like this. This was like the worst fight of the 20 years. They work a lot and that's always been what the show was about. The fighting is usually never physical just relatable bickering that just is part of being a blended family of 10. but Kourtney was the first to have a kid and she fully fell into motherhood and got a pass on all the work stuff. Then when the other sisters started having babies and continued working just as hard it became more contemptuous because it was hard working moms against lazy mom. All the girls have product based business that are very successful but Kourtney only started her business like a year ago or so. She's the least busy with the be oldest kids but always uses the excuse of "I'm a busy mom." Which is insulting because they're like, "we're all busy moms and our kids are toddlers and we're going through picnic divorces, and we are business owners, law students, talk show hosts, successful international runway models, and we still keep our commitments. Why is it okay for you to flake and always expect us to bail you out?" So no one really relates to Kourtney as a mom and she misses being close to her sisters and having their respect.
It is unethical from all reality show producers, especially in other shows were the cast members have even less of a say than the Kardashians, to milk the cast's pain. That is what reality shows are based on, pressure, despare and pain. People fighting each other for the end goal, money. The ability to make it or the prize of the show. Desparate people go to reality shows. People with hard lifes. That is why they withstand all this suffering. A healthy person wouldn't be able to stand it. I am not talking about the Kardashians who are also partly the producers of their show.
This is EXACTLY how people get sucked in. Good luck, Jono.
How the family treats Kourtney reminds me a lot of reactive abuse, they keep going after her and nitpicking at her and digging and poking until she has had enough and blows, and then suddenly she is enemy number 1.
I think what’s missing in the years leading up to this conversation is that a LOT of what they are defining as her “toxic” behavior is them trying to get her to go along with things she flat-out says multiple times she does NOT want to do. They continue to harangue her, and she continues to refuse. Eventually they wear her down and she agrees to do it, but is understandably resentful. And that’s what they describe as Kourtney being “difficult.”
Of course, that’s not every single interaction. But it’s a HUGE pattern. So, what they are referring to when they say, “We just don’t know what to do with Kourtney,” - what they are referring to is her resistance to compliance regardless of her own wishes.
It’s messed up!
Well said! 👌👏👏👏👏👏
Sounds like a very toxic family dynamic
Simple reason: Kourtney is the scapegoat.
To be fair (and I loathe to defend anyone whose surname is Kardashian) it seems like there are a lot of scapegoat/golden child dynamics in that family. Their mom doesn’t hide who her favorites are, as the oldest Kourtney got the worst of their parents divorce and before their brother was the scapegoat and now that he left, it seems like Kourtney’s turn. She was very all in with the show for years and now that she wants to take on less it seems to be a problem. Also due to their family being a brand, there just aren’t the usual boundaries there’d be in a typical family.
Thank you!!! I've been saying the same thing!!!!😊🌻
@@jes8 sigh, the eldest daughter in me can’t ignore someone being villainized for saying no after years of saying yes to everything.
Well all the episodes show how bad they treat Kourtney. It's horrible. I truly feel bad for her.
@@jes8 no one would be able to calmly put up with this.
Saying you hate the kardashians is not the flex yall think it is
I’m gonna need more of your reactions to the Kardashians 😂
Same
'It's unethical of the producers' ... THEY ARE THE FREAKING PRODUCERS 😅
😂😂 and they are also part of the producers
Your commentary is the only way I can watch anything Kardashian 😅
It's easy to point the finger at Kourtney here without context. The entire family dynamic is so toxic that none of them can be truly vulnerable in these "mediation" sessions. Whatever comes out gets used against that person. The comment you praised Kim for is actually peak gaslighting because she is the main manipulator. The goal isn't conflict resolution. The goal is to generate more drama.
I agree. But also: even if they had a healthy family dynamic, the fact that they’re using „heart to heart talks“ to generate more cloud is so toxic in itself that it’d never work either way…
Hi Jono,
Alot of the stuff in this video was very helpful and informative except for one thing.
The thing I'm talking about is the commentary that you made about Khloe's shirt that showed a sliver and I mean a SLIVER of skin.
It felt like you were, in a way, "slutshaming" her. Basically blaming her for distracting YOU when the problem lied with you being distracted by something so insignificant in the first place. She wasn't naked and she was in fact actually mostly covered up. She was also in a session with her sisters not with the Pope.
I feel that the importance is what she is saying and not even what she was even wearing.
That's it.
Thank you.
She lives in a narcissistic family system. How do you not see that. Accountability for what not wanting her personal life exploited foe money!
I think he’s from L.a himself
She should be able to wear whatever she wants and still be taken seriously, i feel personally disapointed in this segment about her clothing.
I hate that when a woman is comftrble in her skin and just wears something she finds cute, she is deminished and slutshamed and treated like her words no longer matter. Not saying that Jono is slutshaiming anybody, i just felt a little hurt when he drew attention to that instead of what she was saying - as if that was the most important take away from the scene. I get that it can be important sometimes to follow dresscodes and be ”appropriate” but this is their show, where they are allowed to express themselves however they want. And she is not responsible for other peoples feelings about it and how ”distracted” they get. It just gives a little ”you asked for it, because of your short skirt” kind of vibe. Disapointing.
@MendedLight
I 100% agree with this comment. I felt as if there was more important things to talk about during clips 0:48 - 0:56. Instead of talking about what she's wearing.. how about let's dig deep on what made Khloe feel that way towards Kourtney, how did Kourtney get that way, etc. etc. Then again, this is also a TH-cam Channel and not just an 'family therapy session.
Entirely right. You're distracted ? That's your issue. I did not even notice anything about her cleavage until Jono brought attention to it.
And the mention of the fact that it's particularly inappropriate because she's talking about her family... what's the relevance ? It is just reenforcing stereotypes of the way women should behave when they are in the family space.
💯 agree I don't understand what's so inappropriate and "bold" to have a (narrow!) decolletage while talking about your family (or anything else!). Like, what's appropriate then, maybe to talk about breastfeeding?
the way i literally had to pause and play this part again bc i couldn’t believe my ears. so disappointing
No offence to the guy, I’ve never seen any of his other videos and maybe I stumbled onto a bad one, but he seemed very judgmental for a therapist. Talking about them being “rich reality stars” as if to say rich people problems aren’t as serious and the comment about her clothes… 👀 very different from other therapists I’ve watched on this platform
srry but how is khloe's shirt responsible for you being distracted?
kinda disappointed in the comment you made because a person's clothing shouldn't define what they should and shouldn't be able to talk about. your distraction is something you should work on.
Related to what you're talking about at 4minutes in, I was having an argument with my sister (over text) and I said " you're TREATING me like I'm..." and her response was "I never SAID you were..." and it was so frustrating cuz the time it would take to explain that she read it wrong and then go on it wouldn't get far...and this was far into the argument and i was done by this point cuz she wasn't listening to understand
Would love to see the episode where they sit down with the therapist and Rob. I feel a lot of his problems stem from being in that toxic family environment without his dad around to guide him in life.
There’s a part in this conversation she has where Khloe talks about how she can get her feelings out & not cry & she’s seen as more aggressive. I was hoping to hear your opinion on that.
i wish we could recommend shows, because i'd recommend Prodigal Son. i'd love to hear your thoughts on the antagonists relationships.
I love this Serie so much!
Very interesting show and very entertaining too!
so sad it got cancelled!@@user-uy8xf9tm5h
I watch the show cuz my sister does and yeh, you can get sucked in 😂. They’re people, and people are interesting. I like the character aspect of things. Thanks for the vid!
how khloe dresses shouldnt affect your perception of what shes saying, especially when shes being open and vulnerable
Honestly if Kourtney really no longer wanted to be on the show like she said than she should go awol like Kylie, we barely ever saw Kylie
You mean like Rob but yeah Kylie isn't on a lot.
You and Alicia need to react to the relationship scenes. 🤲🏾🤲🏾
They definitely gang up on her - Kim and Khloe
I mean this family gave up ethics a long time ago. One of the sisters did a s...tape with the mother being the promoter behind it. If that doesnt say what it is with this family.
"this soundtrack is so dope" Relatable lol
I love your video response to the Kardashians keep up the good work ☺️
I saw this show many, many years ago, I think it was when it was barely starting, and the reason I saw this was because my ex-sisters in law like to watch it; anyhow, I noticed that they started acting so toxic, just like them, towards each other and others around, ( like towards me) it was getting so out of hand, I was getting depressed and I was having conflicting feelings all over. The entertainment was no fun pastime anymore, and the reality was a nightmare. It was like I couldn't escape this vicious cycle. Once, I was able to have my own space (because I was living with them for some time) I found myself putting on this "show" or how I call it, mental torture, then I realize I was feeling all those things again, thankfully I caught myself going into the rabbit hole on time, turned around and I made a promise to myself and my future mental pace to N E V E R put on this show again, and I have been soo happy and at peace since. This is so toxic to the masses who watch this it should be banned. It seems like not much has changed in the way they conduct themselves.
I'm sorry but if your sister's in laws mimicked the behavior on the show that's on them not the show. Plenty of ppl watched the show and didn't cause drama.
@@jclyntoledo I agreed their nature is to be like that, but I also have the firm belief that what you eat, what you watch, and who you are with, can impact your personality. (depending on the quantity of course).
Loved, safe and protective
You should be their therapist. You are very good at it. Please comment on the argument between kim and kourtney about the mariage in Italy.
Please make a video about the anime Mushoku Tensei.
Can you do Mob Wives? 😂 Those women are a mess!
Yes please
Did he ever apologized for the shirt comment? I wpuld really like to see some reaction. It seems inappropriate to comment on somebody's clothing when you are in a role of a therapist and they are being vulnerable. Imagine, in the extreme case, she would be a victim of r*pe, that would probably end any kind of attempts for a therapists - client relationship
YES, has he seen this?? All of the comments about this have been so kind and patient, so i feel like he could at least say something
Your Kardashian videos are freakin hilarious
Lol your hooked. 😂
You should watch Ron and Sam relationship jersey shore
There’s 18 seasons of this show and we didn’t even get a 4th season of shadowhunters
These people have so much money it baffles me they don’t have an actual therapist help them in a group setting! Guess that wouldn’t be good for ratings if they didn’t argue 😂
Justice for Firefly and all other quality shows that are canceled too soon.
I adore your video's but I can't stomach the Kardashians.
Kim is a really smart lady. Maybe you should look up Kim Kardashian she actually has other jobs then this show.👍
I don't believe the authenticity of any of it. I don't believe we get to meet the real people here, could be that not only the fights are scripted and staged but the sound advice we saw in this episode too. I'd rather watch some other "therapist reacts to" show xyz
Honestly if all of this including the emotion is staged, they're all fantastic actresses 😅
As a professional, a persons clothes should not be distracting to you. So that comment was a bit unnecessary.
Agreed and I found that just a bit weird, and I love his videos but this comment was a bit hmm yk, and thei style is glamour and like flirty so
Yes, its not the point of these vids.
@MendedLight i think he needs to see to this because people dont need more women to be devalued because of what they wear and i feel kinda hurt that he had to comment on it and before what shes saying and feeling.
For years they have been ganging up on Kourtney if you watched the show you would understand her anger. Kim even called her the ugliest in the family, its actually sad how they treat her and then make it seem like she has issues.
Kourtney literally spent years attacking her siblings constantly. She was literally known as the bitch which is fine just be self aware. Don’t play victim when someone matches your energy. And don’t be surprised that when you put your hands on someone they’ll hit you back 😂
It's a dynamic, it means she is part of the engine for that dynamic happening, she gains some benefit to be there in a certain way as the rest of the people involve in the dynamic, otherwise the dynamic stopped and the people involved would accommodate themselves to other roles, it's kind of a synchronization
@@lillyroman4201 That is what I believed also until I re-watched and saw how KIM was badmouthing Kourtney behind her back constantly and telling her constantly that Scott cheating is her fault...I am sorry..Kim was vicious from the beginning..laughing at somebody's crying face because they lost an earring is not the same thing
@@daniellak.7521 Kim literally told Kourt that because once they had a kid,she made Scott to sleep in another room from her n wasn't giving him enough attention n she just said "he'll cheat on u" not that him cheating was her fault....u guys like victimization Kourt,she's also taken digs at Kim n was wrong so many times
@@risizirevlon4338 This is how it started, but Kim did worse than that. You clearly missed the scene where Kim payed a visit to Kourtney laying on her bed and saying the exact same thing I just stated. Go re-watch it,please..Kim has this pattern..now Khloe is facing that, too. So who is actually the problem?
Bold choice to point out that you're" distracted by her shirt being unbuttoned"...I didn't even notice it tbh. You were judging, sorry but you were.
That was my first thought, too. It really turned me off. As a therapist...that's the last thing he should be thinking
100 percent , gross way to start , and from a therapist? Yikes. I never noticed either.
I appreciate all of your knowledge & your helpful commentary/suggestions, but I did just want to offer some feedback on the comment about Khloe's shirt. I can't help but feel like the "distraction" stems from the oversexualization of breasts. I'm not saying that sex is the first thing coming to mind, but I do wonder if the same comment would have been made if someone without breasts was wearing the same thing 🤷🏽 May be something to reflect on
Jono, I don't know if this is how you get sucked into reality shows or not, but I know it's DEFINITELY how my roommate got me sucked into the world of KPop 😂 one short clip at a time....
Not so sure why the comment on Kourtney's clothes was necessary...bit disappointed
It's khloe, not kourtney
I gotta admit
I stayed because of the Firefly joke
😅
Johnathan. Do not comment on women's clothing. This is the first video of yours on here or Cinema that I've watched since the messed up DID video and this is what I'm greeted with? Like, that's messed up bro. Please don't do that again
I agree @mendedlight
I love that Kim is just so exhausted she’s just in a comatose state the whole time 😂, nothing to say whatsoever 😂
she be disassociating
Staged behavior
Kim reaction to Kourtney is the result of years of Kourtney behaviour towards her in the early seasons when hoesntly Kourtney should have targeted that towards their parents because both their parents held Kim front and center
This is the first time I’ve genuinely been disappointed by Jono’s comment on Khloe’s shirt. He usually is so on the nose with things…but that was so wrong. Made my stomach drop
And while I think Jono has all the rights to tell that he is distracted by her decolltage, i don't get what he means by other things he said: "it's a bold choice, to have your shirt unbuttoned while talking about you family, but maybe it was hot there". Why can't she have her shirt as unbuttoned as she wants in her tv show? Why is it inappropriate to have it unbuttoned while talking about your family? Like is she talking the king of Saudi Arabia, in SA or what?😂
Why being hot there is like the possible justification of her wearing it, though she doesn't need any reasons to wear her shirt however she wants to?!
So, trying to use I statements😅like Jono showed here (the best explanation and demonstration i ever heard❤ )
When Jono said that I felt like he is slutshaming and blaming her for him being distracted and implying his views of what's appropriate and what's not to everybody. Makes me defencive, angry and disappointed. I say that as a muslim girl who is very sick and tired of men telling women how to wear and blaming them for their reactions.
Hi, I completely agree with you and was looking for at least one comment that explained how I was feeling! Funnily enough I am not Muslim, but I do live in KSA haha I don't understand why he felt it was necessary to comment on the way she is dressed and frankly I clicked off the video afterwards. It made me feel gross.
Yes. Exactly
They do gang up on Kourtney
I usually rag on reality TV, but this actually reminded me a lot of interactions with my stepdad before we cut contract with each other. I agree that (assuming this is genuine) it seems kinda unethical to broadcast this.
For anyone who needs this:
- describe the situation you’re reacting to.
- Express your opinion and what you’re feeling.
- Assert what you want
- Reward by explaining the positive effects of getting what you want.
- Maintain the conversation topic.
- (have an) Assertive/ confident posture
- Negotiate
Thanks a lot
This looks so familiar... my husband is in a family buisness. He's the 'kourtney'. His brother is pretty emotional and extrovert. He uses lots of hurtful words to explain his feelings to my husband. My husband closes down because he is getting blamed unreasonably. Then his brother escalades his verbal attacks... laying on blame. My husband is the scapegoat. I know if he wouldn't stonewall and would stand up just a bit and explain himself it would difuse quickly. He just doesn't like conflict and feels entirely misunderstood. I get frustrated because I know they need to talk about it. How do you stop someone from laying all the blame on? Take responsality for something right away? He just accepts being misunderstood but it affects how he lives. I'd really like to know. As his wife we both really hurt because their is no appreciation every shared. Just others sharing their feelings and blaming us. One period of time, when things got bad, I started having anxiety attacks around them and went into depression. Because I seen how much they hurt my husband and he had to show up to work with them everyday. I don't know how to help him communicate. He's very introvert. But his silence makes them add on the layers.... they don't realize that silence doesn't mean your not hearing and feeling every word used against you. I think some 'khloe's' feel better after these talks because they vented. And if your a 'kourtney' the venting does nothing for you. Like she said, this isn't a productive conversation bringing up the past. Sounds like something my husband would say. He'd rather talk about mindset change for the future.
I don’t know whether this would work, but what if your husband wrote a letter detailing and explaining everything that he never got to say and that pinpoints where exactly the problems usually are blamed on him - and you sit there and listen and shush everyone that tries to interfere so that your husband gets to talk for once?
Make it clear that he never gets the chance to show his side because others use their louder voices to tune him out and that they need to hear him out now?
@@excessivelyfangirlingbookw3339no actually that would not work in a dysfunctional family unit.
I’m so sad that you made the comment about Khole’s shirt. I think many of us were able to watch this without being distracted or even noticing it. (Because it’s completely irrelevant)
Your a woman as men it’s easier to be distracted but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to act on it but what we think cannot be controlled it just happens we don’t control how we feel this goes both with men and women
Khloe is actually the weakest one! She’s sad! She pretends to be strong.. but her baby daddy got 4 kids! 😂😂😂
Kourtney said to Khloe on your last video that they were ok behind the camera then it changes once they started filming again..
I hope the kardashians see this and hire you as their therapist
Ooooh you and your wife should look into the Kim and Kanye drama /break up
I feel my brain rotting even watching a couple clips
Ew, that comment on their clothing was creepy as hell. I didn't even think about that until you pointed it out.
That’s exactly how you get sucked in!! I think everyone initially kind of hates any reality TV show before you go into watching it, because we all know it’s going to be ridiculous… but that’s what makes it great & doesn’t let you stop watching.
I feel for Kourtney 100%. She is the family scapegoat. I don't think you are qualified to make the judgements you have here without being a long time viewer of the show.
Pls make a vid about Kylie parenting methods
LOL was not expecting a Firefly reference but I’m all for it! 😂
Im still not over Firefly
I didn't expect a video about the Kardashians would so beneficial for my life😂 Thank you Jono💖
also they never resolve those problems alone, there is always someone to watch and keep khloes or kims back, kourtney is always alone and has no one in her defense
Oh Jono I was you back in May.
Now? I'm an amateur Kardashianologist.
I think this is the beautiful thing about this family and I know it's an unpopular opinion but they do grow. How they acted towards each other in the earlier seasons of Keeping Up with the Kardashians to the later seasons of the new show the Kardashians they deal with their problems a little healthier now example the new fight between Kim and Kourtney about Dolce & Gabbana at this fight happened during Keeping Up with the Kardashians in the previous Seasons Kim and Kourtney would have gotten into another physical fight and it would have lasted a longer time but Kim really did try to see where Kourtney was coming from and she stated that over and over again but it became harder because Kourtney didn't want to talk to her so other things got filtered in and out but I am glad that they were able to work and mend a relationship.
In the earlier Seasons Kourtney was a bully she would always try to say the most hurtful things to Khloé or Kim specifically always Kim. Now maybe there is some emotional trauma about that because Kim might remind her a lot of their mother when it comes to the work aspect of things but it doesn't mean she has the right to take it out on Kim. I believe that because the Kardashians grew up with money and they had access to better things in life when people hear that they automatically believe that these women don't have any trauma or any issues. They're a life wasn't a stable one just because they had money doesn't mean that everything was happy all the time there is deep-rooted issues in the family and I'm glad that they still stick together and they love each other and they're working through it life is messy and things get messy however it's how they move on that matters to me they take family vacations and they talk about things and they are it out and sometimes we never see them do that and that's fine they deserve that privacy we are not entitled to seeing every inch of their life. But we can't ignore the fact that some of the times the sisters have said and done some really mean things to each other specifically with Kourtney Kardashian and Kim Kardashian those two are the closest in age so yes they have a lot of issues with each other they remember their parents divorce more. Kourtney Kardashian had a problem with her mother's infidelity and in some way she has now Twisted her mind that Kim is the equivalent of their mother when it comes to the sense of business-wise because Kim is very much like Kris she is a businesswoman she is smart.
I need more of these lmaoooo ! i am already cackling before it hits 2 minutes . I was expecting something TOTALLY different at 1:05 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel for Kourtney bc yes she looks like the a hole when she blows up, but when she is fighting to defend herself from her sisters and their toxic behaviors, and then she finally blows up from not being heard. Then they try to play the victim and play this card like Kourtney is a ticking time bomb... I am going through this myself and though I need to learn how to draw better boundaries and stick to them without blowing up, it can be hard when no one wants to listen to you or take your emotions and needs seriously... And blowing up like this doesn't ever make anything better, but we get sick of being walked all over and pushed around that we for once want to make sure people effing hear us this time and we want to defend ourself and we think that maybe this time they will see how much their behavior is affecting us.... But they never do... and we are expected to take accountability for our actions and never them and the cycle starts over again with them disrespecting us over and over and we ask nicely over and over for them to stop and then BOOM another explosion... I connect with her in this behavior and I hope she can find a way around that part to get to a better communication with her toxic sisters.
Interesting. My theory is that the Kardashian family has some covert narcissists, Kim being one of them and Khloe being a flying monkey. And it truly is unproductive to try to hash things out with narcissists and their enablers. Not saying Kourtney may not have some toxic traits but at least she is the only one getting therapy trying to work through hers.
DON'T DO IT, JONO! Please don't be drawn into the Kardashian Karnival. It's so toxic and it will add NO VALUE to your life or really anyone else's.
Yes it’s how we got sucked in 😩😩
This is not your your Mom begging you to do something, it’s your BOSS having to beg you to fulfill contractual obligations: which will have your behind fired in an instant in real life. Kourtney is lazy, Kendall is selectively anxious, if they don’t like to be on camera they can leave and find new streams of income but they refuse because they need the fame as leverage to continue to monetize their existence 🥴 I feel so bad for Kim and Khloe being dragged down by the rest
They could do a show on their own…
She wanted to leave the show, but her family forced her to stay.
When it comes to mental and emotional abuse You can only be forced if you let someone force you what’s really stopping her from leaving and setting the boundary
@@wolf2966 I understand what you mean. But this is hollywood, there is a lot of money involved and contracts. I don't think they will let her goes that easily the whole concept is about the 3 main sisters.
Excellent intro.
The Kardashians used to play in the background on a huge TV in a laundromat I used to go to. I did not enjoy. This, however, is interesting!
I love these reactions, i really identify with some of the sister fighting and everything Jono is saying about it makes me think about how well or bad I’m managing my situations.
And yes Jono this is Exactly how you get sucked in!!!😂😂😂
I understand Kourtney because her and Khloe we're the closest just watch the early seasons of the kardasians but now Khloe is now closer to Kim.
Kourtney and Khloe we're so hilarious together. Now Khloe became sucked up to the fame and life style with Kim and Kourtney is wanting to retire because she carried the show for year's but her family won't let her. Because at the end of the day they know that. They know they just don't want to ever admit it.
I think a-lot of people don’t realize how smart kim actually is she has a law degree and has worked on multiple ethics projects and its sad because of her reputation from her younger years
I ❤ how watching this can help improve anyone's communication skills
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the 8 passengers case. Specifically in regards to Jodi Hildibrant (I'm sure I butchered the spelling there). She sounds like more of a cult leader than a therapist according to the victims that have come forward.
I don’t think that would be wise at this time atleast till the case is over which won’t be for quite some time
Is this "Fashion photo review" 😂
5/5KimKs⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I love how he pretends to dislike them so you guys can cheer him on yet he keeps making videos about them 😂 it’s weird tbh. Just admit you like them.
Kim and Khloe are the main protagonists in this family dynamic
Antagonists you mean?
@@tropicaoptica yes, you’re right
IF THIS IS HOW YOU JUDGE OTHERS, YOU NEED A NEW JOB.
AND BEING DISTRACTED BY A WOMENS CLOTHING, IS DISGUSTING
Never underestimate the Kardashians. They are a great family and if you’ve never watched the show from Season 1 you can’t
Judge!!!
The shirt comment is valid.
To my knowledge they don't really fight like this. This was like the worst fight of the 20 years. They work a lot and that's always been what the show was about. The fighting is usually never physical just relatable bickering that just is part of being a blended family of 10. but Kourtney was the first to have a kid and she fully fell into motherhood and got a pass on all the work stuff. Then when the other sisters started having babies and continued working just as hard it became more contemptuous because it was hard working moms against lazy mom. All the girls have product based business that are very successful but Kourtney only started her business like a year ago or so. She's the least busy with the be oldest kids but always uses the excuse of "I'm a busy mom." Which is insulting because they're like, "we're all busy moms and our kids are toddlers and we're going through picnic divorces, and we are business owners, law students, talk show hosts, successful international runway models, and we still keep our commitments. Why is it okay for you to flake and always expect us to bail you out?" So no one really relates to Kourtney as a mom and she misses being close to her sisters and having their respect.
It is unethical from all reality show producers, especially in other shows were the cast members have even less of a say than the Kardashians, to milk the cast's pain. That is what reality shows are based on, pressure, despare and pain. People fighting each other for the end goal, money. The ability to make it or the prize of the show. Desparate people go to reality shows. People with hard lifes. That is why they withstand all this suffering. A healthy person wouldn't be able to stand it. I am not talking about the Kardashians who are also partly the producers of their show.