@@GamersPrey I really loved the stillness ending it's just a shame other people cut it off before the big moment. Regardless, thank you for correcting it. 👍
@houstonjosefs fr not a lot of video games get to me emotionally but the stillness ending is what finally made me break down. Probably because of James finally expressing how he feels. Best ending imo
Honestly this is my new favorite ending. Just seeing James finally cry just hits diffrent. that hes been holding it back through literal Hell and him finally letting go just makes him feel Human.
It’s the Icing on the cake for the “In Water” ending In this one we can see what went down in his car talking to Mary’s dead body in the back seat, then sill driving into Tocula Lake.
The 0:42 part where she says "what's wrong honey?" with such sweetness fucked me up so bad... this game is all about pain and love... the actors did wonderfully without saying much... This game will definitely be on my mind for years to come.
And Mary's hands touching James' face too. This is a masterpiece Horror Game with a deep love (and pain) story. The developers really did an awesome job remaking my favourite Silent hill game of all time (the OG SH2 had a huge part in my teenage hood back those years)
@@Slaughter_Hill Maaaaan, that stung. I remember when I was in the military that was the only place I would let myself cry. Luckily now I have a good support system and have found safety in others to be able to express things. I remember how for the longest time it felt like opening myself up to cry would feel like I was going to die, just because of how uncomfortable I was expressing real pain rather than the surface level.
@@codydagg2259 I was going through cancer treatment and had to drive to the hospital from time to time. I already knew the treatment was working, but I still felt the emotional pressure building up inside me. Sometimes I couldn't help but cry when I was driving to the hospital, especially when no one could see me. I don't know why I'm sharing this with you; it's not very pleasant to remember all of that. I hope you've left all the pain behind and that you're doing well now.
I thought the dialogue implied that James can't go on without Mary but doesn't want to off himself, instead he's willing to wait for his time to come. It being a alternate in water is strange since they could have fit this into the actual one.
i think this is the "true" in water ending, it shows that after what james went through, he can't let go of mary and still remembers the way she was, the way she is and that she is always in his mind, hence him seeing her when in reality, its just a corpse.
@@Hollium Like a Director's cut of the ending. I have noticed some differences with this and in water where you could view James driving into the river for slightly different reasons.
I honestly would've preferred if this had not just been an alternative In Water Should have been that he can't move past what he did but also can't bring himself to end it so he leaves Silent Hill to turn himself over to the Police and admit he killed Mary
what do u mean hes willing to wait. this is just extended in water ending u even hear the car hit water when it cuts to black. i rlly h8 you sh fanboys who overanalyse everything, the remake and og are great but if a dog is a dog u dont call it a mouse.
This supersedes “Leave” as the true ending in my opinion. You truly see James break down and process everything, while exiting the car before he gives Mary a water burial because he knows she’ll be waiting for him.
Well the true ending is in water since in sh4 the room we can see James father have a conversation in the phone with the police informing him about his son’s death that they found his corpse in the water.
@@Blubbpaule there are 2 indicators that he left the car if you compare the end audio with “In Water” 1. You can hear the rain gets louder, which hints that he opened the door of the car 2. The sound of the car hitting the water sounds a lot further away
@@Jmerithew87 I've compared both audios - the entire driving and water splashing is the same audio. Literally the same - it has the same profile, the water sounds are exactly at the same time after crashing through the barrier.
i belive you can hear James’s opening cars front door and exiting it to let the car go on its on. (ambient noise of rain got louder after he opened the door)
2:51 unlike in the water ending there is a 4 seconds delay before the car starts going to lake, which means that james probably jumps out of the car after he stops pressing the pedal
2:51 unlike in the water ending there is a 4 seconds delay before the car starts going into toluca lake, which means that james probably jumps out of it after he stops pressing the coupling pedal.
@@enexe6229 He asked her will you wait for me since he knows that she's dead and that Maria you talk to is a creation of silent hill and isn't real. "WIll you wait for me?" means he was going to commit suicide and meet her in afterlife.
I think James gets out of the car. He sends it into the lake to give Mary a burial in their special place. I think he was going to kill himself until she spoke to him. He's going to live the rest of his life but knows he'll see her again.
@wilku8888 To me seeing Mary changes the whole scene. I think he's about to do it because he's overcome by his grief. But that small moment with Mary gives him clarity. She wouldn't want this for him. She'd want him to live. It'll be incredibly hard, but it's his burden to bear. He asks if he'll wait for him to live and return to her when his life takes its natural course. She assures him that she will, and that gives him the last bit of conviction he needs.
The way I see it, this ending shows how James learned his lesson and got rid of Silent Hill's influences on him: As he finally recognizes what he did and accepts it, visibly no longer trying to fight back, the town sees its purpose was fulfilled right after James woke up from it, and decides to give him the opportunity to hear one last time from his deceased wife, this time reassuring him as a way of saying: "You've done it - your soul can now be free." Although, now, James is clearly able to discern that the Mary he heard speaking before - as well as the one he hears back in the car - was nothing but part of the illusion he had been given to by himself through the town (that's how I interpret the fact he does not look back at her even when he's clearly able to hear her voice from up close and/or feel her hand touching his face). Once his mind and soul finally cleared, he then proceeds to properly say out loud his last goodbye to Mary for accepting he is going to live the rest of his life without her; he accepts the real Mary instead of the fake one he created - now, believing the real Mary was the one to be actually waiting for him, when in addition he asks her to not give up on him, demonstrating he had no intentions of getting rid of her actual presence as a whole when she was still alive. And, at long last... he gets rid of her deceased body he had brought there within his car, which concludes his journey through Silent Hill (as implied by the loud, persistent sound of rain in the end, after what appears to be the sound of him opening a door, he has dropped out of the car, leaving Mary to rest underwater).
I find it so utterly sad that how nothing in silent hill can break james , he suffered a ton of mental anguish but a single touch and a question from his wife immediately breaks him into tear
How it hits this ending is out of this world. Without a doubt my favorite from now on for Silent Hill 2. Thank you James, you are the best character in the Psychological Horror game genre of all.
The way Mary’s hand reaches out to touch James’ cheek and the score has such a sense of longing. Feels hauntingly beautiful. Not sure why but the Bent Neck Lady in Hill House came to mind
This whole scene is a triumph for Silent Hill and a massive fuck you to anyone who was just blindly shitting on this remake. Bloober absolutely went above and beyond to give SH fans something they didn't deserve. Absolutely outstanding effort.
....no? the whole suicide at the end ruins it. it just feels pretentious. "Hey we can do In-water too! but better!" if they treated this as James just staying in the car forever with the corpse of his wife until he passed away from dehydration and hunger or something to make it screwed up, it'd have been better and "still". alternatively they could've just cut it at him looking at hte letter and looped back to the intro, so we have a "looping" ending that connects to endings like UFO, Dog or Rebirth that imply James has previous knowledge of the town and stuff so that's one run he did "still", retried again and went for rebirth or something.
The implication is that he doesn’t commit suicide tho? He asks mary if she will be “waiting for him” He’s going to live but in a depressed state until he dies miserably
Best depiction of suicidal ideation I have seen in a long while. James accepts his life while being fulfilled and calm but not happy, hence the Stillness title. It's not agony, it's acceptance,
Yesss Everyone seems to cope saying he’s still alive. That look at the note before the fade to black says it all. James still drives his car into Tocula Lake with Mary’s dead body in the backseat. To me this was just the Alternate viewpoint of the In Water ending, now we get to see the delusion and reason he ended it.
@@scottyxscxrs5483 What's with you saying "cope" because they view something differently than you do? Your views aren't the final say, and... honestly, you're taking this way too seriously. It's a video game ending. Get a life. Get friends. I can't imagine you have any with your personality.
Holy shit. Once I heard "I've always been waiting for you" I felt it coming. The stillness before it happened was so intense. This was such a great addition to the game
I like this version of the ending. I'd like to think that James continued to live, given that the blank screen segment took a little longer than the "In Water" ending, which could mean that he stepped out of the car before he sends it into the river itself. The name "Stillness" itself gives a different feeling to moving on. James gets his sort of closure from Mary, but then, what should he do now? He's in a standstill, as to whether he should continue with living or to die like the original "In Water" ending. Really good ending in my opinion.
Notice how the letter envelope says "Mary", that's the imaginary letter James had when he went to search for Mary and it dissapears as James starts to come out from his delusion, the real letter said "To James", but here he sees the imaginary letter again that means his delusions are coming back and the Mary he was talking to is actually Maria. James knew he could never escape Silent Hill, that it would always come back to haunt him, so he decided to put an end to it once and for all and join Mary in the afterlife.
Never played the original, but I’ve seen so many video essays about this game. Bought the remaster fell in love with the game and I have to say this is my favorite ending. It’s heartbreaking, but yet still a little uplifting. James breaking down finally, but also forgiving himself, and hearing from his wife one last time. If there was a canon ending, I think this one should be it.
I was 100% wary of this remake after the HD Collection dumpster fire...but this. This is how you do a proper respectful adaptation of a game, period. Mary's "What's wrong, honey?" Is so beautiful. It sounds like genuine concern. James's actor is the first one in a videogame I have ever played that displays pure, tearful, masculine sadness. I could go on for hours about this cutscene. I just wish it wasn't an extended In Water ending. It really could be something that happens before James even gets to Silent Hill, seeing as the letter is also a figment of the town, Mary could be, too.
James' pain and agony, plus Mary's hands touching James' face: This is a masterpiece Horror Game with a deep love (and pain) story. The developers really did an awesome job remaking my favourite Silent hill game of all time (the OG SH2 had a huge part in my teenage hood back those years)
My belief is that this ending is actually a prequel to the start of the game. He double-takes the letter because he has, in that moment, created the delusional story that she's actually in Silent Hill. He's already at their special place because he's simply mourning her there, that he brought her there (her body), himself. Mary is seen to be sitting in the backseat, which I feel helps confirm her dead body has been there the entire time, or in the boot or any implication of 'back' of the car. When it cuts to black, it's cutting back to the end of the game, to say "Yes, you just finished the game, and we still consider the outcome (likely closer to canon) to be the In Water ending."
Sure you've seen by now. But her body is fully modeled under the blanket in the back seat. She's always been back there and this ending + the blanket covering her confirms it
@@PretzelSage I did! I still don't think I can fully understand why it cuts to the In Water audio, I can't think of a more valid interpretation of why it still occurs, but I refuse to believe this 'ending' is anything other than a prequel to James creating the delusion, it's too beautiful and tragic to not be exactly that.
@@Medicalguy Holy shit, good catch! Man, how unfortunate. Doesn't dismiss it entirely as a concept (if it's just a part of the loop theory), but I suppose it's just feeding credence that this really is just Bloober's take on In Water.
In the beginning of the game, it looks like it just freshly rained with the asphalt looking slick with puddles everywhere. In this ending, it’s raining. Is this a hint of a time loop that James enters right after he drives away?
That’s definitely one way you can interpret this. Really great version of the In Water ending. There’s a painful closure for James, haunting implication that it’s a loop, and the potential clue that he doesn’t die here. Really good stuff.
I think in my opinion that this ending is actually a confirmation of the "loop theory", meaning that this game is sort of a continuation of the 2001 game. Since this is the same scenario that "In Water", but this time we hear that James is out of the car because of the rain sound. My theory is that he crashes the car to the lake but he jump out of the car with Mary Letter in hand, and when he reach the same spot he sees the car and so the story start again. Perhaps I trying to force a narrative in here, but Im really interested If they adapt the "Born from a Wish" Scenario, because i have a hunch that in there they are going to expand more in this sort of loop narrative that Bloober Team is making here.
I remember something about the town being in a loop, especially in Downpour when that tour guide guy mentioned that he tried to off himself multiple times.
Yeah, I've been suspecting something similar, that this remake is actually a sneaky sequel to the original game, the UFO ending kinda hints at that too even if it's meant as a joke.
I love the small fact that when James meets Maria for the first time in the remake, it's almost like she knows everything that is going on and that will happen, unlike the og.
@@danielpeckham5520 there are so many little things in this game that point to it being a "sequel" to the OG Silent Hill 2, one i can remember off the top of my head is when on the roof where Pyramid Head throws him off theres the same gate that James got thrown through in the OG and its destroyed in the same way, many things like that
if you compare the audio of in water ending and stillness ending when the screen turns black, you can hear differences, in the stillness ending it is heard that james opens his car door before driving his car into the lake.
In case anyone still thinks he gets out of the car.... I timed the sequences between this and the "in Water" ending when he turns the key and then hits the water. He actually hits the water EARLIER in the Stillness ending by about three seconds from the In Water ending. Kinda makes zero sense there's "more audio for James to get out of the car" if he hits the water earlier.
Help me understand please. I have troubles understanding how exactly this ending is different from the Water one. The feeling from the name and the dialogue makes me believe that James will not drive into the lake himself but maybe get out of the car before it reaches the water? He then will live the rest of his life in a broken state without actually doing anything and not coming to terms with anything. Unable to move on but also not entirely being consumed by the past. He will not take an action of pushing through hardships and will not take an action of taking his own life. Therefore the ending's name - Stillness. Is this what it's all about or am i missing/misunderstanding something? Obviously it has differences but maybe i'm just seeing things? If my understanding is actually correct then it's a nice, "realistic" ending but also not as great as people make it out to be.
Time heals all wounds, his crime, even when there's too selfish reasons, was made PRIMARILY out of love so she could stop suffering (she was dying anyway and soon), THAT'S WHY he's consumed by guilt and punished by it and the crime itself, but he's obviously a man who loved profoundly his wife, and when considering killing himself for his sin, he acknowleges that's the last thing her beloved wife wanted for him after her death, sure he's devastated now, but in time, he'll be able to move on, like she wanted
Time heals all wounds, his crime, even when there's too selfish reasons, was made PRIMARILY out of love so she could stop suffering (she was dying anyway and soon), THAT'S WHY he's consumed by guilt and punished by it and the crime itself, but he's obviously a man who loved profoundly his wife, and when considering killing himself for his sin, he acknowleges that's the last thing her beloved wife wanted for him after her death, sure he's devastated now, but in time, he'll be able to move on, like she wanted
The car door opens, the rain gets louder when it does, the vehicle becomes distant as it falls into the lake, James lives, and this is my new favorite ending.
I've watched this a few times. Here is my take. James killed Mary out fatigue and depression. He can't bear to see his wife withering and dying slowly and he was definitely heavily burdened by the responsibility of taking care of his dying wife for 3 long years. It was like snap in the moment. Mary on the other hand was already in a state of acceptance. She knew she will die, there was no cure. Though she threw tantrum and did broke down asking James not to leave her alone, deep down she wished for the pain to end. James definitely loved Mary to the core but shit happened. He cannot forgive himself for the killing and thus he created the whole delusional scenario where he got the letter and went straight to Silent Hill. In the final scene, Mary the ghost had already accepted her death and forgive James, it was only James who felt the ultimate guilt and regret about his action. James, up until the final scene was not able to forgive himself, contrary to what Mary wanted him to be. So, this ending is a good closure in the most realistic way. It continues the mental state of James unable to forgive himself whilst Mary soothed him and reassured him that she understood and that she will always wait for him in the afterlife. That is proven during the lines where james said "im so, so sorry" and Mary answered with "it's okay", continued with James asking "will you wait for me?" and Mary answered "i've always been waiting for you". About the car plunging into the lake, i believe that James did jumped out of the car at the final moment. This is hinted by 1. him not reading the final letter which he just looked at the passenger seat. It is a directive of James wishing to put an end to this whole Mary tragedy without any regrets and second thoughts that may come after reading the letter. 2. The dialogue earlier "will you wait for me?" "I've always been waiting for you". I think if he chose to die on the spot, he will say something like "i'm coming for you" or words to that effect. Just my two cents.
the way her dead eyes look, clearly a representation of James' feelings and what he's seen, did he kill her or was she sick? he couldn't deal with her death and drowned himself? i think that she got sick and couldn't deal with it so he also died, and took her body with him
This ending is great but odd. Everything else suggests he's going to live only to reunite with her when it's his time, but the crashing sound is confusing. Maybe its supposed to be ambiguous but there was really no need given we already have the Water ending. Sould have just made it the sound of his car driving off and be done with it, even in life he'd be struggling with the guilt so this would be bittersweet.
He is letting go of mary in this ending, her body is in the car and James crashing it into the water but jumped out means that he is letting his burden go and live on until he can see his wife again
Strange how many people are ether arguing before or against weather or not James jumps from the car in this ending. Really one of the things that makes this game so great is the mystery behind it. "What's going on? Why is he doing this?" these thoughts pull you in to this strange story. I think you should believe what you want to believe about this ending. If anything what you believe to be the truth says more about you than it does the game. Sleep well and hold those you love close my friends
Is it okay to play the silent Hill remake if I've never played the original silent Hill games before? I mean the only silent hill games that I played were origins and homecoming and that was during the PS3 era.
Not a loop ending. James still died. The car sounds are gears shifting and parking brake disengaged. This is just a sadder in water ending, where he has even less closure. In the in water ending, James accepts the truth but can't forgive, and he deliberately goes ahead with what he came to Silent Hill for in the first place (suicide). In the stillness ending, he never really let go, and he's a lot more reluctant to end it.
Now there's the question as to how exactly did he drive the car into the lake, considering the shore is quite far away and the observation deck has a brick wall that would destroy the car before even leaving the parking lot.
It's because the car is slipping because of the harsh rain and acceleration, and that's why you hear that harsh noise as if the car is moving out of control.
I’ve read many people saying he got out of the car and buried her body under water but, even if I like that theory, it doesn’t feel right. Like, wouldn’t James be in worse trouble if he loses her corpse? Hospital will ask him where is she, and if they can’t find her they will suspect him. Instead, if he says she died naturally from the sickness, well… everyone knew she was sick so no way to point him out about anything. Right?
isn't that the whole point of the ending? "stillness" as in "stagnant". james won't be making an effort to mentally heal, but also won't kill himself. he'll just live his life as it is. if he ended up in jail then so be it. also, with that amount of guilt james has, I don't think he would lie to the cops and avoid accountability.
@ Right! You got a point lmao, guess I was overthinking too hard. It’s true we don’t get to know what happens after he leaves. Same thing can be said about the “Leave” or “Maria” ending, we watch him leave but we don’t know what happened afterwards
dude, this ending should've been the in water ending cuz the in water ending in sh2 remake suck and you can get this one from your first playthrough, not the second, it will hit hard for the new player.
this is my new favorite ending tho i dont really like the part where we can hear at the end that James still drives the car down the river that kinda kills the whole part where he asks if Mary can wait for him
I don't like it myself since I prefer the ambiguity. I hear no difference in the audio in this vs. In Water, but everyone else seems to hear something I don't. Which is fine. I just think it's better if it ends without any sound after cutting to black. Because in the In Water ending, he already seems dead inside and set on killing himself, whereas in this ending, he seems like he's struggling with what to do, like part of him doesn't want to die yet. I feel like it could work as a bridge either way, to Leave or In Water, I just feel like it would've been better if it left off at him still working up the courage/struggling with what to do, no sound afterward. But other than that, god, it was a moving ending.
I think this ending opposite in a meaning in "In water" ending he can't live without her, he knows she wanted him to live a life but he decide to die. In this ending still he can't live without her but she told him to die aka she waiting for him still thats why he crashes in water it's same thing like a letter, he needed to hear it from her. They are same but also Different
Welp, since long ago team silent said "In Water" was the most accurate ending for the OG game, maybe they decided to do a definitive and more accurate version of "In Water" to be the canon ending?
I believe this is the more definitive in water ending too. Bloober team probably didn't want to completely change it the original so they did another, more extended version.
In my opinion, I think this is a Leave + In Water ending, I headcannon that James just crashed the car into the lake without him, so that he can live the rest of his life
I truly think for this ending he restarts the cycle the long look at the letter and the ask for her to wait for him basically him asking will she wait through another cycle cause in game james is fully aware he cant meet mary in the afterlife on one of the walls in the buildings the Writing states he knows he gonna go to hell
though Maria looks like Madonna after plastic surgery, but that aside Mary is still a nice lady, even if James didn't kill her, her disease would kill her instead
I think this ending would’ve been improved if they kept it vague whether or not James chose to end it. At the moment, it just seems like In Water with extra steps, and I don’t think that is the move. James seems far more uncertain and afraid here, so it should’ve been unknown if he found the courage to drive off into the water.
1.03 patch pretty much change ending a bit for people understand it better. In the new water ending he never read the letter and the letter drop in the river along with him. While stillness ending he did read letter and took letter with him. Living rest of his life with guilt. Also they change dog ending to closer to classic SH2 because old SH fan didn't like new vision of dog ending.... I think the bloober dog ending was fine but i guess they getting a lot of heat for not keeping it as a classic....
People who write that James jumped out of the car. I don't understand why you want this to be true so much. I watched both endings a bunch of times - this one and “In the Water” - the sounds behind the black screen can be considered almost identical in both endings. You can only hear the sound of a door opening if you really want it... but it’s not there. And at the same time, the dialogue with his dead wife in the back seat does not lose its meaning - James receives forgiveness from Mary and her approval of his desire to reunite with her in another life. When he looks at the envelope, he hesitates because he knows the true contents of the letter - most likely he read it before the scene (which is why we don't hear Mary reading the letter). In the letter, Mary wanted him to move on, to live for himself. But James definitely chose suicide. Many people interpret the title of the ending as “impossibility to move,” but it seems to me that the title should be interpreted as “calmness.” This ending is just amazing...
it's just the same in water ending without any particular difference and don't tell me anything about the dialouge with mary because it just says what i already know (he wants to off himself just like in the water ending because he can't live without her). not to mention she actually wanted him to live according to her letter. if he truly dies then this ending loses it's individuality because the result is the same.
@@saekisadako2118 The result is not the same - Mary's presence in the salon and his question: "Will you wait for me?" gives the ending new meaning. If in "In the Water" he kills himself simply because he can't forgive himself and can't live on without Mary, then in this ending Mary forgives him. And here he kills himself only because he wants to be reunited with her, because he still can't imagine life without her. Anyway, I like that Bloober Team made it so that you can think in different ways.
@@РоманПономарёв-т3р well she doesn't need to wait for him because he immideatly reunites with her by commiting suicide. that phrase would make sense if he decided to die of old age. nah the result is still the same so it's the same ending. he also says he can't live without her in water ending and wants to commit suicide because he can't go on without her. it also doesn't show her letter at the bottom of toluca lake, which means he probably takes it after getting out of the car. bloober should confirm james' status in this ending.
@@saekisadako2118 I'm not going to convince you otherwise. If you like to see the ending this way - ok. Perhaps it would be interesting to know the true meaning of the authors. Maybe over time Bloober Team will provide information.
@@РоманПономарёв-т3рI think that’s really the point. It can be picked apart and you can try and force your interpretation to a decent effect. There’s enough there to clue in that he lives, and enough to assume he doesn’t. What sets this ending apart is James’s imagined conversation with Mary, marking a sort of internal closure.
What is the actual point of this ending??? It’s just In Water but James sees Mary before he drives in the water! Kinda pointless and not really anything different
He doesn't kill himself here, instead he waits for his time, accept what he has done, and suffers thru his whole life until his time comes. Read the dialogue more carefully next time.
@@narwhalTopHat lol it’s cool, the bliss ending is actually cool, but this ending just seems lazy and Bloober wanted to do the original ending but their own way.
@@sampokemppainen3041 tell me you have room temperature iq without telling me it’s clear you haven’t understood the story after 20+ years unless they literally spell it out for you. James murders Mary in the last stages of her illness,so overcome by grief he takes Mary’s body to silent hill where he promised to take her again while she was alive. but on the way there he has a psychotic break from reality and represses doing it because he can’t face what he has done l.unfortunately for him the town of silent hill called him back with a letter from Maria(not Mary’s letter)but it was the town playing tricks on his delusional mind, and also others who are similarly as traumatized as James who in 24 hours had to contend with these others and the manifestations of his guilt including Maria and pyramid head who were born from his unconscious desire to be punished for his crimes and sins. ultimately the fate of James is decided by the player either through the joke endings or in the water where he cannot accept life without Mary or forgive himself. or the Leave ending where he’s able to forgive himself and Leaves with Laura as her adoptive father like Mary wanted of him
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@@GamersPrey I really loved the stillness ending it's just a shame other people cut it off before the big moment. Regardless, thank you for correcting it. 👍
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I'm a little disappointed as I thought he would have chosen to live in this one.
Luke Roberts (James voice actor) should be in consideration for the game awards best performance.
And the new Mary actor voice. I love her performance so much
@@NguyenThu-cm3is she sounds so much in deep pain and miserable 😭😭😭 her voice will haunt me forever
@houstonjosefs fr not a lot of video games get to me emotionally but the stillness ending is what finally made me break down. Probably because of James finally expressing how he feels. Best ending imo
@@NguyenThu-cm3is Nope, her letter reading dialogue was terribly delivered compared to OG SH2.
@@Bearizm sometimes I feel her better than og but sometimes not. On this ending, her voice was so good.
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He deserves the recognition he always was. He's truly amazing in Black Sails!
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Honestly this is my new favorite ending. Just seeing James finally cry just hits diffrent. that hes been holding it back through literal Hell and him finally letting go just makes him feel Human.
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He looked so broken when she said I’ve always been waiting for you that fucked me up
It’s the Icing on the cake for the “In Water” ending
In this one we can see what went down in his car talking to Mary’s dead body in the back seat, then sill driving into Tocula Lake.
So he cries because he realized that killing her wasn't such a good idea afterall.
Oh nuts. Go figure.
@@scottyxscxrs5483 he doesn't kill himself in this ending so this IS different
The 0:42 part where she says "what's wrong honey?" with such sweetness fucked me up so bad... this game is all about pain and love... the actors did wonderfully without saying much...
This game will definitely be on my mind for years to come.
And Mary's hands touching James' face too. This is a masterpiece Horror Game with a deep love (and pain) story. The developers really did an awesome job remaking my favourite Silent hill game of all time (the OG SH2 had a huge part in my teenage hood back those years)
Sometimes men need a "what's wrong honey?" From the woman we love to feel alive again
The way she says it too... it makes even the most strongest man break down in tears
Every man knows the car is the sacred place because it’s the only place we can show emotion
@@Slaughter_Hill Maaaaan, that stung. I remember when I was in the military that was the only place I would let myself cry. Luckily now I have a good support system and have found safety in others to be able to express things. I remember how for the longest time it felt like opening myself up to cry would feel like I was going to die, just because of how uncomfortable I was expressing real pain rather than the surface level.
@@codydagg2259 I was going through cancer treatment and had to drive to the hospital from time to time. I already knew the treatment was working, but I still felt the emotional pressure building up inside me. Sometimes I couldn't help but cry when I was driving to the hospital, especially when no one could see me. I don't know why I'm sharing this with you; it's not very pleasant to remember all of that. I hope you've left all the pain behind and that you're doing well now.
Well said...
I thought the dialogue implied that James can't go on without Mary but doesn't want to off himself, instead he's willing to wait for his time to come. It being a alternate in water is strange since they could have fit this into the actual one.
i think this is the "true" in water ending, it shows that after what james went through, he can't let go of mary and still remembers the way she was, the way she is and that she is always in his mind, hence him seeing her when in reality, its just a corpse.
@@Hollium Like a Director's cut of the ending. I have noticed some differences with this and in water where you could view James driving into the river for slightly different reasons.
I honestly would've preferred if this had not just been an alternative In Water
Should have been that he can't move past what he did but also can't bring himself to end it so he leaves Silent Hill to turn himself over to the Police and admit he killed Mary
what do u mean hes willing to wait. this is just extended in water ending u even hear the car hit water when it cuts to black. i rlly h8 you sh fanboys who overanalyse everything, the remake and og are great but if a dog is a dog u dont call it a mouse.
@@FalcoMoment That would have been a interesting ending.
That shot of her in the rear view mirror with just her mouth is just so good
He's nominated for best performance at the game awards!
This supersedes “Leave” as the true ending in my opinion. You truly see James break down and process everything, while exiting the car before he gives Mary a water burial because he knows she’ll be waiting for him.
Well the true ending is in water since in sh4 the room we can see James father have a conversation in the phone with the police informing him about his son’s death that they found his corpse in the water.
He does NOT leave the car. What you hear are sounds a car makes if you release the parking brake, then he put it into drive and floored it.
@@Blubbpaule there are 2 indicators that he left the car if you compare the end audio with “In Water”
1. You can hear the rain gets louder, which hints that he opened the door of the car
2. The sound of the car hitting the water sounds a lot further away
@@Jmerithew87 I've compared both audios - the entire driving and water splashing is the same audio. Literally the same - it has the same profile, the water sounds are exactly at the same time after crashing through the barrier.
@@PonchitoPoncho2050 The fourth game only refers to him disappearing.
"What's wrong,honey" touches my soul... I cried...
i feel like James doesn't kill himself here, but rather drives the car into the lake to bury her and the evidence if it were to ever come up
There is zero evidence to support this. I really hope this doesn't become the next Walter Sullivans foreskin.
i belive you can hear James’s opening cars front door and exiting it to let the car go on its on. (ambient noise of rain got louder after he opened the door)
2:51 unlike in the water ending there is a 4 seconds delay before the car starts going to lake, which means that james probably jumps out of the car after he stops pressing the pedal
Naaaaa this is just an “alternate” view of the “in water” ending.
We get to see what happened in the car before he drove it into Tocula Lake.
@@scottyxscxrs5483 asking will you wait for me and then unliving yourself makes no sense
@@enexe6229 perhaps that he and Mary will meet in afterlife or something? I took the Stillness to be a more 'acceptance/closure' version of Water.
@@faterenegade2071 well then saying will you wait for me makes no sense because she doesn't need to wait if he unlives himself
2:51 unlike in the water ending there is a 4 seconds delay before the car starts going into toluca lake, which means that james probably jumps out of it after he stops pressing the coupling pedal.
yeah it makes sense since in the water ending the car goes to the town's lake instantly
This is insane cope.
This is just an alternate viewpoint of in water ending.
@@scottyxscxrs5483 yeah i guess being illogical is not a cope. asking her will you wait for me and then unliving yourself makes no sense
@@scottyxscxrs5483. Yours is the cope.
It's more like you are the one who wants this so badly to be the " alternate" pov of In Water ending.
@@enexe6229 He asked her will you wait for me since he knows that she's dead and that Maria you talk to is a creation of silent hill and isn't real. "WIll you wait for me?" means he was going to commit suicide and meet her in afterlife.
I think James gets out of the car. He sends it into the lake to give Mary a burial in their special place. I think he was going to kill himself until she spoke to him. He's going to live the rest of his life but knows he'll see her again.
But who stepped on the gas pedal? Unless he put something on the accelerator
@@Titansilber.540i I'm assuming he put something on the accelerator.
also he asks her "will you wait for me?" implying he isn't going to kill himself
"I think James gets out of the ca" What makes you think so? I hear it to be the same as "in water" just here he sees Mary.
@wilku8888 To me seeing Mary changes the whole scene. I think he's about to do it because he's overcome by his grief. But that small moment with Mary gives him clarity. She wouldn't want this for him. She'd want him to live. It'll be incredibly hard, but it's his burden to bear. He asks if he'll wait for him to live and return to her when his life takes its natural course. She assures him that she will, and that gives him the last bit of conviction he needs.
The way I see it, this ending shows how James learned his lesson and got rid of Silent Hill's influences on him:
As he finally recognizes what he did and accepts it, visibly no longer trying to fight back, the town sees its purpose was fulfilled right after James woke up from it, and decides to give him the opportunity to hear one last time from his deceased wife, this time reassuring him as a way of saying: "You've done it - your soul can now be free." Although, now, James is clearly able to discern that the Mary he heard speaking before - as well as the one he hears back in the car - was nothing but part of the illusion he had been given to by himself through the town (that's how I interpret the fact he does not look back at her even when he's clearly able to hear her voice from up close and/or feel her hand touching his face).
Once his mind and soul finally cleared, he then proceeds to properly say out loud his last goodbye to Mary for accepting he is going to live the rest of his life without her; he accepts the real Mary instead of the fake one he created - now, believing the real Mary was the one to be actually waiting for him, when in addition he asks her to not give up on him, demonstrating he had no intentions of getting rid of her actual presence as a whole when she was still alive. And, at long last... he gets rid of her deceased body he had brought there within his car, which concludes his journey through Silent Hill (as implied by the loud, persistent sound of rain in the end, after what appears to be the sound of him opening a door, he has dropped out of the car, leaving Mary to rest underwater).
This remake is way more emotional than the original
SH2R should have won Best Score/Best Audio Design/Best Performance by Luke Roberts with this scene alone.
I find it so utterly sad that how nothing in silent hill can break james , he suffered a ton of mental anguish but a single touch and a question from his wife immediately breaks him into tear
How it hits this ending is out of this world. Without a doubt my favorite from now on for Silent Hill 2. Thank you James, you are the best character in the Psychological Horror game genre of all.
The voice acting , animation , music, context, and cinematography 10/10
So in this end, He just live with the pain and guilt until his time is up to meet mary again. I guess he kinda keep his promise on not dying.
The "What's wrong honey" breaks me
Easily the best performance we have seen since Roger Clarke as Arthur Morgan
The way Mary’s hand reaches out to touch James’ cheek and the score has such a sense of longing. Feels hauntingly beautiful.
Not sure why but the Bent Neck Lady in Hill House came to mind
This whole scene is a triumph for Silent Hill and a massive fuck you to anyone who was just blindly shitting on this remake. Bloober absolutely went above and beyond to give SH fans something they didn't deserve. Absolutely outstanding effort.
....no? the whole suicide at the end ruins it. it just feels pretentious. "Hey we can do In-water too! but better!"
if they treated this as James just staying in the car forever with the corpse of his wife until he passed away from dehydration and hunger or something to make it screwed up, it'd have been better and "still".
alternatively they could've just cut it at him looking at hte letter and looped back to the intro, so we have a "looping" ending that connects to endings like UFO, Dog or Rebirth that imply James has previous knowledge of the town and stuff so that's one run he did "still", retried again and went for rebirth or something.
The implication is that he doesn’t commit suicide tho?
He asks mary if she will be “waiting for him”
He’s going to live but in a depressed state until he dies miserably
@@AliEemanSamy-lf9gl You can literally hear his car crash into the water in this ending.
@@AliEemanSamy-lf9gl and the fade to black and sounds are what? just figments of our imagination?
This is honestly the best mocapping I’ve ever seen. The sounds too omg! The sound design is so amazing.
Best depiction of suicidal ideation I have seen in a long while. James accepts his life while being fulfilled and calm but not happy, hence the Stillness title. It's not agony, it's acceptance,
Yesss
Everyone seems to cope saying he’s still alive.
That look at the note before the fade to black says it all.
James still drives his car into Tocula Lake with Mary’s dead body in the backseat.
To me this was just the Alternate viewpoint of the In Water ending, now we get to see the delusion and reason he ended it.
been there enough times to know. they definitely got the feel right
@@scottyxscxrs5483 What's with you saying "cope" because they view something differently than you do? Your views aren't the final say, and... honestly, you're taking this way too seriously. It's a video game ending. Get a life. Get friends. I can't imagine you have any with your personality.
Holy shit. Once I heard "I've always been waiting for you" I felt it coming. The stillness before it happened was so intense. This was such a great addition to the game
I like this version of the ending. I'd like to think that James continued to live, given that the blank screen segment took a little longer than the "In Water" ending, which could mean that he stepped out of the car before he sends it into the river itself. The name "Stillness" itself gives a different feeling to moving on. James gets his sort of closure from Mary, but then, what should he do now? He's in a standstill, as to whether he should continue with living or to die like the original "In Water" ending. Really good ending in my opinion.
“will you wait for me” could also be interpreted as the time he’ll take in purgatory
Notice how the letter envelope says "Mary", that's the imaginary letter James had when he went to search for Mary and it dissapears as James starts to come out from his delusion, the real letter said "To James", but here he sees the imaginary letter again that means his delusions are coming back and the Mary he was talking to is actually Maria. James knew he could never escape Silent Hill, that it would always come back to haunt him, so he decided to put an end to it once and for all and join Mary in the afterlife.
Never played the original, but I’ve seen so many video essays about this game. Bought the remaster fell in love with the game and I have to say this is my favorite ending. It’s heartbreaking, but yet still a little uplifting. James breaking down finally, but also forgiving himself, and hearing from his wife one last time. If there was a canon ending, I think this one should be it.
Sh2 remake and the original both work of art
The way he looks at the letter creeped me out more than anything in this game
This scene has to be in one of those "It's just a game" videos
I was 100% wary of this remake after the HD Collection dumpster fire...but this. This is how you do a proper respectful adaptation of a game, period. Mary's "What's wrong, honey?" Is so beautiful. It sounds like genuine concern. James's actor is the first one in a videogame I have ever played that displays pure, tearful, masculine sadness. I could go on for hours about this cutscene.
I just wish it wasn't an extended In Water ending. It really could be something that happens before James even gets to Silent Hill, seeing as the letter is also a figment of the town, Mary could be, too.
I heard that James jumps out of the car before the water splash
James' pain and agony, plus Mary's hands touching James' face: This is a masterpiece Horror Game with a deep love (and pain) story. The developers really did an awesome job remaking my favourite Silent hill game of all time (the OG SH2 had a huge part in my teenage hood back those years)
My belief is that this ending is actually a prequel to the start of the game. He double-takes the letter because he has, in that moment, created the delusional story that she's actually in Silent Hill. He's already at their special place because he's simply mourning her there, that he brought her there (her body), himself. Mary is seen to be sitting in the backseat, which I feel helps confirm her dead body has been there the entire time, or in the boot or any implication of 'back' of the car. When it cuts to black, it's cutting back to the end of the game, to say "Yes, you just finished the game, and we still consider the outcome (likely closer to canon) to be the In Water ending."
Sure you've seen by now. But her body is fully modeled under the blanket in the back seat. She's always been back there and this ending + the blanket covering her confirms it
@@PretzelSage I did! I still don't think I can fully understand why it cuts to the In Water audio, I can't think of a more valid interpretation of why it still occurs, but I refuse to believe this 'ending' is anything other than a prequel to James creating the delusion, it's too beautiful and tragic to not be exactly that.
That would be true except for one single detail. James has his flashlight here, and his clothes are still dirty.
@@Medicalguy Holy shit, good catch! Man, how unfortunate. Doesn't dismiss it entirely as a concept (if it's just a part of the loop theory), but I suppose it's just feeding credence that this really is just Bloober's take on In Water.
In the beginning of the game, it looks like it just freshly rained with the asphalt looking slick with puddles everywhere. In this ending, it’s raining. Is this a hint of a time loop that James enters right after he drives away?
That’s definitely one way you can interpret this. Really great version of the In Water ending. There’s a painful closure for James, haunting implication that it’s a loop, and the potential clue that he doesn’t die here. Really good stuff.
If you look closely at James’ eyes, you can literally see the light fading from it. It’s such a nice detail.
2:08 Here?
I think in my opinion that this ending is actually a confirmation of the "loop theory", meaning that this game is sort of a continuation of the 2001 game. Since this is the same scenario that "In Water", but this time we hear that James is out of the car because of the rain sound. My theory is that he crashes the car to the lake but he jump out of the car with Mary Letter in hand, and when he reach the same spot he sees the car and so the story start again. Perhaps I trying to force a narrative in here, but Im really interested If they adapt the "Born from a Wish" Scenario, because i have a hunch that in there they are going to expand more in this sort of loop narrative that Bloober Team is making here.
I remember something about the town being in a loop, especially in Downpour when that tour guide guy mentioned that he tried to off himself multiple times.
Yeah, I've been suspecting something similar, that this remake is actually a sneaky sequel to the original game, the UFO ending kinda hints at that too even if it's meant as a joke.
I love the small fact that when James meets Maria for the first time in the remake, it's almost like she knows everything that is going on and that will happen, unlike the og.
i cant remember but im pretty sure they allude to this in the original, through a few notes
@@danielpeckham5520 there are so many little things in this game that point to it being a "sequel" to the OG Silent Hill 2, one i can remember off the top of my head is when on the roof where Pyramid Head throws him off theres the same gate that James got thrown through in the OG and its destroyed in the same way, many things like that
The most beautifully tragic game I've played in my life. It's a masterpiece.
if you compare the audio of in water ending and stillness ending when the screen turns black, you can hear differences, in the stillness ending it is heard that james opens his car door before driving his car into the lake.
He also doesn't look at the back of the car, and instead looks at the letter.
In case anyone still thinks he gets out of the car....
I timed the sequences between this and the "in Water" ending when he turns the key and then hits the water. He actually hits the water EARLIER in the Stillness ending by about three seconds from the In Water ending. Kinda makes zero sense there's "more audio for James to get out of the car" if he hits the water earlier.
Help me understand please. I have troubles understanding how exactly this ending is different from the Water one. The feeling from the name and the dialogue makes me believe that James will not drive into the lake himself but maybe get out of the car before it reaches the water? He then will live the rest of his life in a broken state without actually doing anything and not coming to terms with anything. Unable to move on but also not entirely being consumed by the past. He will not take an action of pushing through hardships and will not take an action of taking his own life. Therefore the ending's name - Stillness.
Is this what it's all about or am i missing/misunderstanding something? Obviously it has differences but maybe i'm just seeing things?
If my understanding is actually correct then it's a nice, "realistic" ending but also not as great as people make it out to be.
No you’re completely right
Your are completely right.
You 're right. He just forcing himself to live with the pain and guilt in order to keep his promise until his time is up.
Time heals all wounds, his crime, even when there's too selfish reasons, was made PRIMARILY out of love so she could stop suffering (she was dying anyway and soon), THAT'S WHY he's consumed by guilt and punished by it and the crime itself, but he's obviously a man who loved profoundly his wife, and when considering killing himself for his sin, he acknowleges that's the last thing her beloved wife wanted for him after her death, sure he's devastated now, but in time, he'll be able to move on, like she wanted
Time heals all wounds, his crime, even when there's too selfish reasons, was made PRIMARILY out of love so she could stop suffering (she was dying anyway and soon), THAT'S WHY he's consumed by guilt and punished by it and the crime itself, but he's obviously a man who loved profoundly his wife, and when considering killing himself for his sin, he acknowleges that's the last thing her beloved wife wanted for him after her death, sure he's devastated now, but in time, he'll be able to move on, like she wanted
I don't like the fact they cut him kissing her before the pillow came out, it just made him look evil.
so murder is ok if you kiss the person first?
@@oatmeal710 it made his motive more ambiguous but that's just my opinion
@@oatmeal710 Well, it is if you slip em the tongue.
@@oatmeal710 of course it is, that's why it's called the kiss of death ;)
this ending breaks me
I like it, but imo instead of tacking this on as a separate ending, they should have just made this an expanded remake of the In Water ending.
the way her dead eyes look..
The car door opens, the rain gets louder when it does, the vehicle becomes distant as it falls into the lake, James lives, and this is my new favorite ending.
I've watched this a few times. Here is my take.
James killed Mary out fatigue and depression. He can't bear to see his wife withering and dying slowly and he was definitely heavily burdened by the responsibility of taking care of his dying wife for 3 long years. It was like snap in the moment. Mary on the other hand was already in a state of acceptance. She knew she will die, there was no cure. Though she threw tantrum and did broke down asking James not to leave her alone, deep down she wished for the pain to end.
James definitely loved Mary to the core but shit happened. He cannot forgive himself for the killing and thus he created the whole delusional scenario where he got the letter and went straight to Silent Hill.
In the final scene, Mary the ghost had already accepted her death and forgive James, it was only James who felt the ultimate guilt and regret about his action. James, up until the final scene was not able to forgive himself, contrary to what Mary wanted him to be.
So, this ending is a good closure in the most realistic way. It continues the mental state of James unable to forgive himself whilst Mary soothed him and reassured him that she understood and that she will always wait for him in the afterlife. That is proven during the lines where james said "im so, so sorry" and Mary answered with "it's okay", continued with James asking "will you wait for me?" and Mary answered "i've always been waiting for you".
About the car plunging into the lake, i believe that James did jumped out of the car at the final moment. This is hinted by
1. him not reading the final letter which he just looked at the passenger seat. It is a directive of James wishing to put an end to this whole Mary tragedy without any regrets and second thoughts that may come after reading the letter.
2. The dialogue earlier "will you wait for me?" "I've always been waiting for you". I think if he chose to die on the spot, he will say something like "i'm coming for you" or words to that effect.
Just my two cents.
the way her dead eyes look, clearly a representation of James' feelings and what he's seen, did he kill her or was she sick? he couldn't deal with her death and drowned himself?
i think that she got sick and couldn't deal with it so he also died, and took her body with him
This ending is great but odd.
Everything else suggests he's going to live only to reunite with her when it's his time, but the crashing sound is confusing. Maybe its supposed to be ambiguous but there was really no need given we already have the Water ending.
Sould have just made it the sound of his car driving off and be done with it, even in life he'd be struggling with the guilt so this would be bittersweet.
He is letting go of mary in this ending, her body is in the car and James crashing it into the water but jumped out means that he is letting his burden go and live on until he can see his wife again
Strange how many people are ether arguing before or against weather or not James jumps from the car in this ending. Really one of the things that makes this game so great is the mystery behind it. "What's going on? Why is he doing this?" these thoughts pull you in to this strange story. I think you should believe what you want to believe about this ending. If anything what you believe to be the truth says more about you than it does the game. Sleep well and hold those you love close my friends
Is it okay to play the silent Hill remake if I've never played the original silent Hill games before? I mean the only silent hill games that I played were origins and homecoming and that was during the PS3 era.
Yeah man go for it
Yes the remake was designed for new comers to the franchise to experience silent hill
silent hill 2 is pretty much self-contained and the remake is no different, it's a great entry to start
@@annakanna thank youuu
yes yes yes do it! i'm so excited for you!!
What a fucking game. God damn
1:24 ahh yes, peak male fantasy.
Not a loop ending.
James still died. The car sounds are gears shifting and parking brake disengaged.
This is just a sadder in water ending, where he has even less closure. In the in water ending, James accepts the truth but can't forgive, and he deliberately goes ahead with what he came to Silent Hill for in the first place (suicide). In the stillness ending, he never really let go, and he's a lot more reluctant to end it.
Is it not „something” that some video game ending bring so many people sharing their thoughts? Amazing. Like this game.
Cant tell if he ends it after or not but either way this is my favorite ending
...jesus.
Im soooo in love with this remake I swear to god this is one of the best things I've ever seen 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Incredible acting.
I hope someone uploads the soundtrack used in this
It's called umbra veil, but the soundtrack isnt out until november 20th
@@MonkeyLips-c5u
Thanks
@@MonkeyLips-c5u That's an amazing name for the track.
Now there's the question as to how exactly did he drive the car into the lake, considering the shore is quite far away and the observation deck has a brick wall that would destroy the car before even leaving the parking lot.
It's because the car is slipping because of the harsh rain and acceleration, and that's why you hear that harsh noise as if the car is moving out of control.
people say he jumped i call bs and he still died ,the audio still sounds exact same as the water ending imo
I’ve read many people saying he got out of the car and buried her body under water but, even if I like that theory, it doesn’t feel right. Like, wouldn’t James be in worse trouble if he loses her corpse? Hospital will ask him where is she, and if they can’t find her they will suspect him. Instead, if he says she died naturally from the sickness, well… everyone knew she was sick so no way to point him out about anything. Right?
isn't that the whole point of the ending? "stillness" as in "stagnant". james won't be making an effort to mentally heal, but also won't kill himself. he'll just live his life as it is. if he ended up in jail then so be it. also, with that amount of guilt james has, I don't think he would lie to the cops and avoid accountability.
@ Right! You got a point lmao, guess I was overthinking too hard. It’s true we don’t get to know what happens after he leaves. Same thing can be said about the “Leave” or “Maria” ending, we watch him leave but we don’t know what happened afterwards
dude, this ending should've been the in water ending cuz the in water ending in sh2 remake suck and you can get this one from your first playthrough, not the second, it will hit hard for the new player.
This broke my heart.
this is my new favorite ending tho i dont really like the part where we can hear at the end that James still drives the car down the river that kinda kills the whole part where he asks if Mary can wait for him
I don't like it myself since I prefer the ambiguity. I hear no difference in the audio in this vs. In Water, but everyone else seems to hear something I don't. Which is fine. I just think it's better if it ends without any sound after cutting to black. Because in the In Water ending, he already seems dead inside and set on killing himself, whereas in this ending, he seems like he's struggling with what to do, like part of him doesn't want to die yet.
I feel like it could work as a bridge either way, to Leave or In Water, I just feel like it would've been better if it left off at him still working up the courage/struggling with what to do, no sound afterward.
But other than that, god, it was a moving ending.
I think this ending opposite in a meaning in "In water" ending he can't live without her, he knows she wanted him to live a life but he decide to die. In this ending still he can't live without her but she told him to die aka she waiting for him still thats why he crashes in water it's same thing like a letter, he needed to hear it from her. They are same but also Different
Welp, since long ago team silent said "In Water" was the most accurate ending for the OG game, maybe they decided to do a definitive and more accurate version of "In Water" to be the canon ending?
I believe this is the more definitive in water ending too. Bloober team probably didn't want to completely change it the original so they did another, more extended version.
In my opinion, I think this is a Leave + In Water ending, I headcannon that James just crashed the car into the lake without him, so that he can live the rest of his life
This is not the same ending, "In Water" is still in the game.
@@loowisk1113 no, you can hear the car door open, he's not in it in this one
There is no canon ending.
This is the canon ending.
there is no canon ending, same as the original
I truly think for this ending he restarts the cycle the long look at the letter and the ask for her to wait for him basically him asking will she wait through another cycle cause in game james is fully aware he cant meet mary in the afterlife on one of the walls in the buildings the Writing states he knows he gonna go to hell
no. loops and cycles are so overdone.
Aye man at least 4 james its always been hinted this game even more@JoshSmith-ff8dw
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though Maria looks like Madonna after plastic surgery, but that aside Mary is still a nice lady, even if James didn't kill her, her disease would kill her instead
How is it unlocked and does the hyper spray unlock at all?
just do in water ending again on ng+
i think this ending confirms that james has his wife body on back of the car
The water ending have him look at the back seats so she is definitely there.
The original artist, Ito, stated on Twitter that the body was in the back seat.
In-game it has been proven she is in the backseat. Fully modeled as a body wrapped in a blanket.
I think this ending would’ve been improved if they kept it vague whether or not James chose to end it. At the moment, it just seems like In Water with extra steps, and I don’t think that is the move. James seems far more uncertain and afraid here, so it should’ve been unknown if he found the courage to drive off into the water.
but it is vague whether or not he kills himself in this ending?
@@the-golden-duckit is vague. The door opening sound is not really that audible and it’d be better if it just cut to black after the letter.
honestly that would be a good idea, should’ve ended with him turning the engine on.
1.03 patch pretty much change ending a bit for people understand it better. In the new water ending he never read the letter and the letter drop in the river along with him. While stillness ending he did read letter and took letter with him. Living rest of his life with guilt. Also they change dog ending to closer to classic SH2 because old SH fan didn't like new vision of dog ending.... I think the bloober dog ending was fine but i guess they getting a lot of heat for not keeping it as a classic....
"That was just in water with extra steps!!"
Is this ending based on "In water" and showing that Mary still didn't forgive James? Honestly, it's a puzzling ending🤔
People who write that James jumped out of the car. I don't understand why you want this to be true so much. I watched both endings a bunch of times - this one and “In the Water” - the sounds behind the black screen can be considered almost identical in both endings. You can only hear the sound of a door opening if you really want it... but it’s not there.
And at the same time, the dialogue with his dead wife in the back seat does not lose its meaning - James receives forgiveness from Mary and her approval of his desire to reunite with her in another life. When he looks at the envelope, he hesitates because he knows the true contents of the letter - most likely he read it before the scene (which is why we don't hear Mary reading the letter). In the letter, Mary wanted him to move on, to live for himself. But James definitely chose suicide.
Many people interpret the title of the ending as “impossibility to move,” but it seems to me that the title should be interpreted as “calmness.”
This ending is just amazing...
it's just the same in water ending without any particular difference and don't tell me anything about the dialouge with mary because it just says what i already know (he wants to off himself just like in the water ending because he can't live without her). not to mention she actually wanted him to live according to her letter. if he truly dies then this ending loses it's individuality because the result is the same.
@@saekisadako2118 The result is not the same - Mary's presence in the salon and his question: "Will you wait for me?" gives the ending new meaning. If in "In the Water" he kills himself simply because he can't forgive himself and can't live on without Mary, then in this ending Mary forgives him. And here he kills himself only because he wants to be reunited with her, because he still can't imagine life without her.
Anyway, I like that Bloober Team made it so that you can think in different ways.
@@РоманПономарёв-т3р well she doesn't need to wait for him because he immideatly reunites with her by commiting suicide. that phrase would make sense if he decided to die of old age. nah the result is still the same so it's the same ending. he also says he can't live without her in water ending and wants to commit suicide because he can't go on without her. it also doesn't show her letter at the bottom of toluca lake, which means he probably takes it after getting out of the car. bloober should confirm james' status in this ending.
@@saekisadako2118 I'm not going to convince you otherwise. If you like to see the ending this way - ok. Perhaps it would be interesting to know the true meaning of the authors. Maybe over time Bloober Team will provide information.
@@РоманПономарёв-т3рI think that’s really the point. It can be picked apart and you can try and force your interpretation to a decent effect. There’s enough there to clue in that he lives, and enough to assume he doesn’t. What sets this ending apart is James’s imagined conversation with Mary, marking a sort of internal closure.
So the suicide ending is where bloober really put alot effort on again? : /
Bliss and the True Ending are also great.
Did james still kill himself? 😢
James get suicide car accident this kind bad ending
What is the actual point of this ending??? It’s just In Water but James sees Mary before he drives in the water! Kinda pointless and not really anything different
He doesn't kill himself here, instead he waits for his time, accept what he has done, and suffers thru his whole life until his time comes. Read the dialogue more carefully next time.
@@narwhalTopHat he literally drives the car into the water at the end just like in water
@@narwhalTopHat that ending sounded like a car diving into the water tho.. why would they include that after that speech.
@@JellyJman Sorry, my bad, thought this was the bliss ending, didn't actually watch the vid, lol.
@@narwhalTopHat lol it’s cool, the bliss ending is actually cool, but this ending just seems lazy and Bloober wanted to do the original ending but their own way.
So basically he just justifies killing her and makes himself a hero in his oe story.
Incel ending?
@@sampokemppainen3041 tell me you have room temperature iq without telling me it’s clear you haven’t understood the story after 20+ years unless they literally spell it out for you. James murders Mary in the last stages of her illness,so overcome by grief he takes Mary’s body to silent hill where he promised to take her again while she was alive. but on the way there he has a psychotic break from reality and represses doing it because he can’t face what he has done l.unfortunately for him the town of silent hill called him back with a letter from Maria(not Mary’s letter)but it was the town playing tricks on his delusional mind, and also others who are similarly as traumatized as James who in 24 hours had to contend with these others and the manifestations of his guilt including Maria and pyramid head who were born from his unconscious desire to be punished for his crimes and sins. ultimately the fate of James is decided by the player either through the joke endings or in the water where he cannot accept life without Mary or forgive himself. or the Leave ending where he’s able to forgive himself and Leaves with Laura as her adoptive father like Mary wanted of him
You might want to take an IQ test
bro you're cooked in the head.
Have you ever cared for a dying loved one?
this man likes Joker 2
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YOu can hear james roll out of the car !