How Good Was Jason "Mew2King" Zimmerman Actually?

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  • @JeramiJoseph
    @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +110

    How good do you think Mew2King would be if he competed today?

    • @idofront
      @idofront ปีที่แล้ว +57

      He'll still be top 10, or at worst top 12 imo

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@idofront I'd love to see it! he was killing it at big house 9 making winners semis! but we haven't seen that type of play from him since.

    • @farmingsim9813
      @farmingsim9813 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He's still got potential for sure, but his self-confidence and mental game strongly holds him back, he almost got to winner's finals in Dreamhack 2022 but sour spotted down air against Sfop game 5 and lost because of it. The overall playing field has gotten way better as well, but he could definitely make a return to top level play if he truly wanted to and worked on his mental.

    • @junkmail9299
      @junkmail9299 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think he would start out top 35ish and cruise around top 20 level. Unlike Armada, I'm not sure if I believe in M2k's mental game. If M2k got a coach and was very motivated I can see him becoming one of the contenders in the top 8 again (Zain, Mango, Cody, aMSa, Hbox, Plup, Leffen, Jmook). He has all the skill to do so. But practically speaking I would imagine him hitting a wall around Axe, Kodorin, Aklo tier unless he changed things up.

    • @ayrtonpavot3096
      @ayrtonpavot3096 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He is the most influencial player of all time and I'm willing to fight anyone saying the contrary.

  • @cadetsparklez3300
    @cadetsparklez3300 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +448

    He was #1 in melee and brawl at the same time. No other person has been #1 in two smashes at once. So for me he is the goat

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      He was so sick. Miss watching him play!

    • @archangel8444
      @archangel8444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Brawl poopy

    • @isuck6049
      @isuck6049 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@archangel8444 just because movement is shit in every smash game besides melee doesn't mean you have to like it lol, you could've just said nothing here.

    • @archangel8444
      @archangel8444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @isuck6049 Just because you have free will doesn't mean you can comment. You could've just lacked a comment.

    • @MeatSnax
      @MeatSnax 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Has anyone ever been the best at 2 games at the same time in the whole FGC?

  • @UmbreonMow
    @UmbreonMow ปีที่แล้ว +936

    I have some stories from this era of melee.
    1. I played Mew2King at a ChuDat biweekly in bracket, and with the Gentleman's Clause we agreed to play with Pokeballs. I won game 2 on FD in his Sheik vs my Zelda when he threw a Pokeball at me, and I reflected it with Nayru's and killed him. And he looks at me and laughs "I forgot she could do that".
    2. I teamed with Azen at some throwaway VA local event. He was so drunk he could barely hold the controller and walked around with Marth fsmashing and laughing. We still won teams.
    3. Mew2King came down to ChuDat's place in 2007 where I was staying for the summer. He invited me to FCD in Indiana, and I said I couldn't go because I had no money. Jason paid for my ENTIRE TRIP. He paid someone to drive from NJ to VA to pick me up, got another NJ player (WarriorOfZarona) to drive me to Indiana, and then the entire trip in reverse.
    Whenever people talk about the Golden Age of Melee, it really was.

    • @Ramzienator
      @Ramzienator ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Umbreon as in Umbreon from Smashboards? Been a while since I've seen you around. Hope you're doing well.

    • @spencerweiss6337
      @spencerweiss6337 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      #3 🥹
      Goat. Truly the king

    • @Jagger02
      @Jagger02 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Lol Umbreon mow. Now that's a name I haven't heard since like 15 years ago.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +71

      These stories are so good 😂 where have these been for all these years

    • @UmbreonMow
      @UmbreonMow ปีที่แล้ว +151

      ​@@JeramiJoseph there's a LOT of stories like these. I just picked a few random ones.
      I went to MLG Atlanta in Nov 2005 and a group of us went to Hooters for dinner next to the event. And I showed Ken my Pokemon Silver game, and he told me his Mewtwo was stronger than mine. And it was literally Gamesharked for max stats, lol. We were all just dumb 19 y/o kids man. Except HugS. Hugo was born at 35 years old.

  • @spencerweiss6337
    @spencerweiss6337 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    2:06 I think this is what solidifies his legacy for me. He pushed the competitive needle more than anyone else in the scene and it speaks volumes that his work is still being used. He deserves every ounce of respect he gets. Smash GOAT

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True that. His legacy was so insane!

    • @jungshin87
      @jungshin87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      there was a show match at a tournament thrown by ken's brother (infamously not publicly streamed/VOD'd and you had to buy a DVD...lmao), where m2k utterly destroys ken and toys with him later on in the sets. i personally think this is what convinced ken to retire. in the beginning its sorta compettiive, but later on m2k is just doing all kinds of wacky gimmick shit and its all working.

    • @tappajaav
      @tappajaav 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jungshin87 Do you remember name of the tournament where this happened/year of it happening(I assume 2007?), or specific search term that could be used to find this showmatch, if you can't link an actual VOD/video?
      I have hard time believing it wouldn't have surfaced in internet in the many years that have passed

  • @junkmail9299
    @junkmail9299 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    I think M2k is rightly rated. He's the gatekeeper of being #1 for an entire year. Probably 6th best all time for me, but I can see an argument as high as 4th.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah true that! He had really high points and maintained for a very long time

    • @scrottiemcnubbs5687
      @scrottiemcnubbs5687 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have Ken higher than him?

    • @rocbot9479
      @rocbot9479 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What’s your top 6?

    • @junkmail9299
      @junkmail9299 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      1. Mango 2. Armada (Interchangeable depending on what you value)
      3. Hbox
      4. Ken 5. Zain 6. M2k
      I ranked them this way because even though Retro Ranking's gave M2k #1 in 2008, I personally think 2008 should have gone to Mango, he won the only super major Pound 3 that year and didn't lose a tournament. If you decide to give M2k #1 in 2008, I would probably put him #5 and Mango #2. I put Zain #5 because I do value 2020 as his year despite most of it being online.

    • @junkmail9299
      @junkmail9299 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@scrottiemcnubbs5687 It's arguable. Only because for me Ken had 4 years as #1 even though they were early on and the game hadn't been as developed. Even though I value recent years more, that 4 year stretch hasn't been repeated by any other player. For me, M2k was really ranked #1 only during 2007 until Pound 3. M2k's longevity is amazing and his influence on the game is legendary but he was mostly on the lower end of the top top contenders from 2010 onward. And didn't win enough majors/super majors. Even though I put him #6, I can see an argument for him as high as 4th.

  • @RetroGrazer
    @RetroGrazer ปีที่แล้ว +112

    For me M2K was the player I really looked up to in melee. His marth specifically just had this domineering style, this effortless look to how he would delete stocks, all without quite feeling as campy as he definitely was. Fun Fact he is the person with the world record for most tournaments attended lifetime, attending some near 700 tournaments from what I remember. The guy was and still is just a machine, and we love Jason for that.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He looked soooo effortless it was nuts. Wow that’s actually crazy he went to that many. I had no idea

  • @Landmasters
    @Landmasters ปีที่แล้ว +40

    How good was he?
    He took an 8 month break after Genesis, only to beat iBDW and No. 1 Hungrybox in the same tournament (and beat Hbox in a set right after, just couldn't close the Grand Finals out)

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That run of his was so insane

  • @ghostmetalgaming
    @ghostmetalgaming ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I feel like M2K's shortcomings existed purely outside of the game. If they had invented noise-cancelling headphones a lot earlier on, I believe things would have been way different. Regardless of numbers and statistics, Mew2King will always be my #1 Best Smash Player of All-Time.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah id love to see him back in the day be able to tune out crowds more. who knows how good he could have done even back then!

  • @onetakehoovie5955
    @onetakehoovie5955 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Personally I would put M2K in top 5 all time. He's such a monster and his contributions to the community could be debated larger than his accomplishments as a player, which I always add to a player's 'worth' of discussion of their 'greatness'. I think what hurts his credentials,were his meddling years, where you can debate were partially due to him splitting his time with other smash games. But, like Mango, you have to give him props for being in the game as long as he was.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Easily one of the goats of melee. Hands down

    • @pkness5220
      @pkness5220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just behind Mango Armada and Hbox for me

    • @oldtownscouts3712
      @oldtownscouts3712 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love m2k but at this point I think you would have to put zain above him

  • @alwaysbekind3548
    @alwaysbekind3548 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I think it's pretty cool how in many docs, he's seen as the one who brought the melee scene back to life at a time when it looked most grim. Much respect, M2K!

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Super sick that he had such accomplishments. Especially since he was looked so down on at the beginning and now is one of the most loved

    • @thelegacyofgaming2928
      @thelegacyofgaming2928 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JeramiJoseph Yep. No matter how much people wanted to put him down, you have to respect the skill level he had.

  • @WhoMightThis1Be
    @WhoMightThis1Be ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I like the fact that m2k has by far the most registered tournament results in melee still and the 2nd most of any esports player in general. Like he just played so many tournaments its unreal

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I found this stat out after making this video. That is absolutely insane 😂

  • @Tselel
    @Tselel ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Mew2King's Marth on FD is still one of the most beautiful things Melee has ever produced.
    What began as a flowchart became a work of art. Like a stained glass window where all the little pieces have their perfect place.
    Ay. Ay. Ay.

    • @samskott2344
      @samskott2344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I honestly think he is still the best Marth on FD.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dude was a work of art in melee. One of the hardest working people to ever touch smash

  • @cmac6345
    @cmac6345 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I always viewed mew2king as the gatekeeper. He got beat by most of the gods but the players who often rose up to beat some or all of the gods (leffen, sfat, wizzrobe) they all seemed to have the hardest time beating m2k.
    Where i view mang0 as the heart and soul of melee, I view m2k as the link between old school and modern melee. His marth in particular was the golden standard for a long time.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This was dope to read! I totally saw this as well!

    • @TenjinZekken
      @TenjinZekken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      To me, I just could never respect mamgo, because outside of his melee skill, he embodies all the bad traits of the FGC. Drama stirring, sloppy, lives in his mom's basement, and just overall a bad role model for anyone who wanes the scene to grow. Players like armada, m2k, Valle, kbr, jwong, and streamers like sajam, dood, jmcroft, are all way better reps for the community if you actually want to be respected as a community.
      If mango is the heart and soul of melee to melee players, it really explains why the smash scene appears so gross to outsideers, because he is.

    • @medkatyt
      @medkatyt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TenjinZekken he is much better nowadays

    • @WFOnaga
      @WFOnaga 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@medkatytI can agree with that, he’s a much more organized person now

  • @flopraiser7504
    @flopraiser7504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    9:10 secret smash handshake

  • @TakumiJoyconBoyz
    @TakumiJoyconBoyz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think a lot of people forget that time there was a tourney with Smash 4, Project M and Melee all going on at the same time. All three games had Singles and Doubles. He won Teams in all 3 games, came in first in two of the games and came in second place, I think in Melee. He was definitely the Smash Goat when measured across all games.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      that is actually so insane lol. do you know which tournament it was?

    • @TakumiJoyconBoyz
      @TakumiJoyconBoyz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeramiJoseph All I remember is it was pretty close to Smash 4's launch and before Nintendo made everyone stop hosting PM tournaments.

  • @drchowder4605
    @drchowder4605 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    M2K is easily the best overall smash player of all time. Top competitor in every game, and contributed so much to the community.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was revolutionary to smash. Miss seeing him compete!

    • @timmasters1195
      @timmasters1195 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry what? Top competitor in 2 games, never a top player in Ult, 4 or 64.

  • @cottonmather8146
    @cottonmather8146 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Easily one of the best. Pioneered a lot of fundamentals you see players especially with Marth. He wrote the book on how to punish spacies that everyone followed until Zain improved it further (I never thought PPMD's punishes on spacies with Marth were as consistent or efficient). Despite this however, when you go back and watch a lot of classic old sets, it's very infuriating to see how much he got away with in the neutral game, and how much of it would be (and was considered at the time) gimmicky. His neutral was more of a 7.5 in a sea of 9-10's (Armada, PPMD, Mango, and Hbox later on) which is why he couldn't be top 3 in the era of the Gods

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah he paved the road for so much we have today!

    • @danielclark612
      @danielclark612 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm new. What's a spacey?

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@danielclark612 short for space animal. Fox or falco 👍🏻

  • @ShamrockShakee
    @ShamrockShakee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think the joy of watching M2K was truly the roller coaster of “is he on today or is he off”
    Because when M2K is on, it’s crazy to see him play, but when he’s off… you just can’t help but shake your head.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But his tournaments he did well were so fun to watch 😂

    • @ShamrockShakee
      @ShamrockShakee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@JeramiJoseph right! That marth combo you included was spectacular.

  • @volvomoneygang1178
    @volvomoneygang1178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I def got a soft spot for the robot, he was the first top player I saw footage of on TH-cam with my brother and older cousin. Did not know what I was signing up for at that time in 06 but it entailed in a lifelong journey one that has no end in sight. Met some of the sickest people thru this scene

  • @GregTheHeffster
    @GregTheHeffster ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd say M2K is 4th best of all time simply due to his longevity and his dominance in 07-08 and late 2013.Some place Ken higher, but Ken was never able to come back and hang with the new crowd, M2K proved time and time again that he could

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I’m right there with ya.

    • @itsbmeGaming
      @itsbmeGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In Ken’s defense he was on the rise before wrist pain forced him to retire.

  • @Goofzillers
    @Goofzillers ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mew2King will always be my favorite player, at least when it comes to Melee. I loved watching him compete.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s so awesome! Watching compete was super sick back then. Especially when he came back at big house 9 and went on a run!

  • @Kradrice
    @Kradrice ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mew2king is an absolute gem in the smash community. His dedication and skill in every game is unmatched. The best overall Smash player. GOAT!

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was insane at all games, so cool to see how cracked he was

  • @eftorq
    @eftorq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    People can’t imagine how hard it is to be good at two smash titles at the same time. For a period of time I played Melee, P+ & Ultimate on the same evenings with my buddy and sometimes my hands locked up and couldn’t perform in one game. Even in the same game switching a character mid set is insanely hard on top level. M2K will forever be my favourite smash player!

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      M2K was such a game changer! In the whole community!!

  • @stop_drop
    @stop_drop ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A lot of people don't know that m2k actually had the best results of 2013, being up in the h2h against Mango 8-4 and his worst loss being against hbox/ppmd (depending who you think was worse that year). Meanwhile Mango, who got ranked first, had losses to Ice and PewpewU. The rest of their h2h records that year are pretty similar. The 2013 rankings in general showed a lot of legacy bias rather than just looking at the results in that 12 month period (Wobbles should have been higher, Hax$ and Kirbykaze lower, etc)

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh wow that’s crazy! It def would have been super wild to see m2k go from number 1 in the world from 07-08 and 2013!

  • @LloydFreakingIrving
    @LloydFreakingIrving ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving this series! Hope you keep making them :)

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoy. It’s comments like these that make me so excited for more. Between us, I have the next one already in the works 🤫

  • @dr_rl123
    @dr_rl123 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I relate to Jason so much on a mental level, but he'll always be seen as such a great player in not just Smash Bros. but video games in general. I have no idea if he'll ever finish the book he was working on, but I would 100% buy it if he ever finished and released it.

    • @dr_rl123
      @dr_rl123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also he was really good in PM at one point, and is argubly the best smash coach ever from training people like Sparg0 and MkLeo if I'm right

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can’t wait for his book! Will be a fun read. He was really the smash master!

  • @oughtopilot
    @oughtopilot ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Favorite moment is when Mew2King swept the entire crew, 16-0, in the 0C3 crew battle. Against Ken and Isai too.
    Ultimately he had some insane losers runs but was often never able to close the deal in singles.
    But crews and doubles he was always insane.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He was maybe even the GOAT at crews and doubles. He only has a debate against armada for dubs. Crews he sounded like a monster 😂

    • @samskott2344
      @samskott2344 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      His run at UGC in 2016 was one of the best losers runs in history. It's sad that he wasn't able to win the 2nd set against Armada, because that would arguably have been THE best losers run ever. But it was still insane.

    • @oughtopilot
      @oughtopilot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samskott2344 agreed man. That was one heck of a run. Same with Super Smash Con 2018. But UGC would have definitely been more impressive.

  • @Jayluna98
    @Jayluna98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! You've made some awesome content lately

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much! Super happy to see stuff like this 😄

  • @MrDfromjersey
    @MrDfromjersey 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn been hearing about this dude forever and he lived miles away this whole time. Pretty cool.

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All time he’s the 4th best player ever in melee, in smash he’s the GOAT.

  • @fly7188
    @fly7188 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Heres the thing, winning every match is not likely for anyone no matter how good, so looking at how often he placed in the top 3 and even top 10 says a lot about how good he is.

  • @hunterramirez8348
    @hunterramirez8348 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Congratulations on beating M2K! You’re my new favorite smasher now

  • @Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr
    @Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You kinda breezed over him COOOOOOOOOOOOKING Leffen..

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    M2K forever will be my favorite Smash player ever

  • @SkrappyQ
    @SkrappyQ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Without M2K, Melee wouldn't have made it past 2007. Neither Marth or Shiek would be played how they are. Some of the places I see people ranking him are absolutely insane.

  • @TheCalisthenicKing
    @TheCalisthenicKing ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lmaooo that thumbnail will never get old

  • @redd91
    @redd91 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got to play M2K in melee a fair bit in 2007, I was still in high school and couldn't go to much outside of the region but made it to several Chu biweeklies.
    To this day I don't think there has ever been someone more ahead of the pack by the margin that he was (including Armada)... it was messed up. LOL great vid :)

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much 😄 so dope you were playing so early

  • @Krass.Estranged
    @Krass.Estranged ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive seen that picture in the thumbnail hundreds of times online over the years and never realised it was mew2king.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s actually hilarious lol

  • @T1J
    @T1J 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i got to play m2k once in melee and once in brawl. absolute destruction each time of course. there was always all this talk about how weird and awkward he was and I guess he was that but in my experience he liked to laugh and have fun. i dont know why i'm talkin about him like he's dead or something LOL but definitely top 3 all time if we're going off pure legacy. and also he proved that if he focuses on a game he could still beat anyone in the world on any given day

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s hype you gotta play him back in the day. Dude was a monster at any game he touches. Glad he still plays to this day 😄

  • @dynamic283
    @dynamic283 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love to see this style video for Melee after seeing it with UFC fighters

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it! I actually got the inspiration for this vid on an NFL video!

  • @Xivinux
    @Xivinux 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My favorite ever. Love Armada and Mang0 but M2K is special. His sheik was so elegant, maybe not the combo's you see today but his sheik had style and elegance.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So sick he was your fav! A lot of his fans are coming out this video! I miss seeing him play too

  • @mikenukerudy160
    @mikenukerudy160 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    epic! good stuff Jeremy

  • @The_removal_artist
    @The_removal_artist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Him rocking the bk crown before the plane guy is OG

  • @loganfoote622
    @loganfoote622 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad to see him playing SF6 now!

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, super dope he’s still playing something!

  • @robertfrost6421
    @robertfrost6421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol the thumbnail is classic

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably the best pic to come out of smash lol

  • @rubinong
    @rubinong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats the song at 2:38 called again? Man the nostalgia is strong with this one

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Machinimasound Queen of the night. Got ya dawg

    • @rubinong
      @rubinong 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JeramiJoseph thanks brotha

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rubinong gotcha homie

  • @asterixdx
    @asterixdx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All time he’s probably my 5th favourite singles, and my favourite doubles player. Absolute fucking king 👑

  • @Dyleniz
    @Dyleniz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember that smash summit I was such a massive M2K fan during that era before being won over by Zain but that marth is still a work of art on FD

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Such a sick run. I remember watching that too!

  • @novadmd1118
    @novadmd1118 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He’s was the best at both games for like 2 years!! He’s the goat

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was undeniably incredible at smash

    • @novadmd1118
      @novadmd1118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeramiJoseph hbox next 👀

  • @TheDobleQ
    @TheDobleQ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To me there’s two players that pushed forward Melee. One is HBox, there was a point in history where everyone was trying to beat his Puff and developing techs to do it Armada developed Young Link and perfected Fox. And the other is M2K, he contributed so much in the early stage of Melee to even make it a truly competitive game. There’s no Melee esport scene without him. To me he is top 3.
    1. Armada
    2. Hungrybox
    3. M2K

  • @mylittlepimo736
    @mylittlepimo736 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t think M2K’s proficiency at Brawl can be overstated enough. He wasn’t just the top player, he was untouchable. IIRC he never lost a single set in tournament in Brawl’s first year.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s so insane how good he was at both games. Dude really is the smash master

  • @MoneyBark
    @MoneyBark ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gotta love M2K. Very polite and respectable character.

  • @Dan_PM
    @Dan_PM ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I value about M2k and why I have him ranked 4th ever is just the sheer amount he pioneered for how the game is played today. Also just insane volume of quality performances.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah he truly evolved the meta and has changed the game in so many ways

  • @EZdelFresco
    @EZdelFresco 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mew2King is my all time favorite smash player and the reason I even took an interest in the competitive scene almost 15 years ago. Great video.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s so sick. Appreciate you watching dawg ❤️

  • @lurimay997
    @lurimay997 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I guess it also says a lot that a lot of the considered best sets in history are between him and armada (smash con and canada cup). He really is one of the GOATs imo

  • @mrm64
    @mrm64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    M2K IS The 4th best Melee player of all time, idc. The man was in the top 8 for 15+ YEARS. He was the brige between Ken and Mang0, two different eras. He was THE one to beat. And the man was number one in both Melee AND Brawl, AT THE SAME TIME. No other player in history has that title. Yeah, Mang0, Hbox and Armada have arguments for best Melee player of all time, but none of them dominated Brawl or placed high any ANY other Smash game. M2K did. He's the Smash GOAT until proven otherwise and I'll die on that hill. I'll never forget seeing his Dashizwiz set back in the 2000s and I didn't even know Smash had a competitive scene at the time (I was an oblivious scrub who played with items lol). Good times...

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I’m in the same boat that he’s number 4!

  • @Bitter-Wounds
    @Bitter-Wounds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Legit did not know that thumbnail pic was m2k 😂

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂

  • @xXspringsXx
    @xXspringsXx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it just me or is the algorithm spot on lately with promoting up an coming TH-camrs… I keep getting these awesome videos made by people with less than 10k subs it’s been refreshing

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope so! Glad you found the channel and enjoy the stuff! Appreciate it dawg! 😄

  • @corbindewaal7294
    @corbindewaal7294 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    who was the guy blurred out at 5:16 and why

  • @ashtar8630
    @ashtar8630 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I asked him in his twitch chat if he feels that Melee or Brawl was his best game. He said Brawl.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      He dominated for a lot longer, I can see that for sure

  • @CrosserxD
    @CrosserxD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro the fist bump of armada at 14:18 is so wholesome. He is genuinely happy for him

  • @onysill7222
    @onysill7222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:15 are his glasses just resting on his nose?

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the exact same thing 😂😂😂 I think he had the other side of his glasses around his ear, but hard to tell in the pic lol

  • @kode-man23
    @kode-man23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One piece of underrated M2K lore that you left out, and I really wish that you would have touched on: Look up his loser's run at UGC, a late 2016 tournament. He is responsible for THE single greatest loser's run of all time, and had he managed to complete it, this would be the greatest tournament win in the history of Melee. I feel like it never really gets brought up, and it is by far his most impressive accomplishment.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my god you’re so right. I totally forgot about this! That tournament was unheard of for him to do especially a losers run. M2k had so much good stuff to talk about about. Thank you for pointing this out though!

    • @kode-man23
      @kode-man23 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeramiJoseph Yeah it's crazy how everyone just kind of forgot about this one haha. It's what I think of when I think of prime-M2K. Good content, by the way. I love the "How Good Was___" format a lot.

    • @FirePuff12
      @FirePuff12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No Pound 3 is still the greatest losers run of all time.
      If he completed it it’d be debatable

  • @4sfield527
    @4sfield527 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who is that blured out at 5:15 ? DJ?

  • @naudiatf2791
    @naudiatf2791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    feel like i saw this video months ago, why was this reuploaded? o_O

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      I def never made this before 😅 just finished it and uploaded for the first time!

  • @DemonAngels7
    @DemonAngels7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, knowing some of the history of these people are very interesting videos, get better and better

  • @Rafikichu
    @Rafikichu ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He's the GOAT of Smash, and I put him at #4 all time in Melee only behind HBox, Armada, and Mango. For me, his accomplishments and tenure far outshine those of Ken, Leffen, Zain, PPMD and everybody else.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s no doubt the smash goat. Yeah I put him there 100%!

  • @Bludgeoned2DEATH2
    @Bludgeoned2DEATH2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Bro imagine learning your first major opponent ever is going to be fucking Mew2King omg 💀

  • @isthatdunn
    @isthatdunn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best thumbnail I've ever seen

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      I can’t take the credit for it 😂

  • @tonydigital808
    @tonydigital808 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    M2k is who I’d consider the absolute Melee expert. His knowledge of the game can not be overstated. He may not be the best of the best but his knowledge is unmatched

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even to this day I still think he has the most knowledge!

  • @woodenhouse8531
    @woodenhouse8531 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He is a legend, thats the answer

  • @puunk_9240
    @puunk_9240 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At low tier city 2 in 2014, mew2king was in all 4 events' grand finals. He got first in melee singles, second in melee doubles, first in project m doubles, and first in project m singles.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is absolutely insane 😂

  • @rrrrog
    @rrrrog ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He may not be the highest rated god but I love watching M2K play when he's at his peak. He is an absolute beast and you can really see his game knowledge shine through. He is tied with Mango for my favorite player.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So glad to see his fans coming in hot for this vid!

  • @thelordkingsim
    @thelordkingsim ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally, I was waiting for this one

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you were excited for this! Hope you enjoy 😁

    • @thelordkingsim
      @thelordkingsim ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JeramiJoseph twas a great episode 😎 mew2king4life man

  • @c1recha0s
    @c1recha0s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    M2K is honestly my favorite smash player of all time. And I would put him in top 3 of all time. Mango, Armada, Mew2king

  • @Hershgee
    @Hershgee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another top tier doc video Jerami 👌🏾❤️

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it homie ❤️

  • @greghuffman3061
    @greghuffman3061 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he looks like my warcraft 3 compatriot Alex "ricethebackstab" Sabol

  • @jason-sp8nb
    @jason-sp8nb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just love stuff like this best players in the world thankyou for making this video

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course! Glad you enjoyed! I have a bunch more on the channel 😄

  • @sheldon903
    @sheldon903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is dj nintendo's face censored at 5:13 lol

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Easily my favorite esports competitor of all time and it's not close. Been watching Jason for over a decade

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Jason fans are coming out this vid! It’s so exciting!

    • @typhlosion7872
      @typhlosion7872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JeramiJoseph Interesting enough, I was able to talk a lot with Jason through commenting on one of his twitch streams about his autism because both of us have the same kind of autism, that being Asperger's Syndrome. We talked a ton about how when we're down even the slightest bit, everything just snowballs down hill awfully and how we get extremely in depth and overanalytical about things we enjoy, but have extreme trouble putting any focus into things we don't have interest in. That's probably what makes him my favorite player, not the autism, but how he feels human. He's not some unstoppable, impenetrable force like 2019 and early 2020 Ultimate MKLeo or early smash 4 ZeRo, he's a real person who struggles with emotion, with tilt, who has his demons and who, no matter how hard he fights, he can't overcome them. It's nice to see a storyline where the protagonist isn't unbeatable

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@typhlosion7872 yeah this was a very awesome response to see. And I wanted to touch on those types of things that he struggled with as a competitor. But it didn’t really feel like my place to say everything, especially since he hasn’t come out on his channel or anything saying he explicitly has Asperger’s. Didn’t want to over step any boundaries. But he really overcame some serious shit and became an amazing competitor. I can’t wait to read his book where I bet will have everything.
      I also find it so cool you get inspiration from mew2king with your guys similarities. That is so dope to hear

  • @003scorn
    @003scorn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    M2ks intellect is his most Valuable asset. He created frame data charts, alone, in his room, for years. Before anyone would even consider doing anything of the sort

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude is actually a genius

  • @nategraham1487
    @nategraham1487 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goated thumbnail

  • @frubam
    @frubam 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I am just participating in one small part of the middle of the ride and there are many talented people who helped build the ride before me and there'll be many talented people who help finish off the ride after me."

  • @julioluque2589
    @julioluque2589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The day Mew2king comes back to a tournament they need to play Stone Cold Steve Austin’s theme song while he walks in.

  • @inf_echo4200
    @inf_echo4200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey man great video i think this will hit the algorithim well

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! I hope it does! Excited for people to see it 😄

  • @andreperez8961
    @andreperez8961 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I came for the thumbnail.

  • @JPrince6
    @JPrince6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His last name Zimmerman man? Damn and that thumbnail with the Burger King crown…

  • @mayonnnnnaise
    @mayonnnnnaise 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That thumbnail always cracks me up. I ate dinner at her house, with her boyfriend once. Great hosts, considering we were all college students.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s so funny lol

  • @5k4k1dhtp
    @5k4k1dhtp ปีที่แล้ว +3

    M2K is my favorite player of all time, but I think others are beyond him in all time greatness. I would put him in the top 5 though for sure.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      Tons of mew2king fans coming out this vid! Super sick to see!

  • @George_235
    @George_235 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Definitely one of my favorite all time players

  • @morebanks_
    @morebanks_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was wishing for him to shave his hair the entire video 🤣 glad he finally did at the end, he looks much better
    👍

  • @zenzybar
    @zenzybar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    M2K will always be GOAT for me. The guy is an icon and has given so much to the scene.

  • @boomstickYT
    @boomstickYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be cool to see him compete again, he's a likeable guy I think.

  • @Vegemitetoast24
    @Vegemitetoast24 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @5:20 who’s blurred?

  • @23eourytbn82
    @23eourytbn82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    M2k is probably the goat of smash across all the games. Top 5 all time melee player and GOAT of brawl.
    He also did pretty well in Smash 4, he's on the all time ranking in that game if I remember right

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      he was really good at all of them! totally deserves the name smash master!

  • @poffpoff1
    @poffpoff1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who is censored out at 5:16? And why?

  • @Gnarfledarf
    @Gnarfledarf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1:45 Don't put these intrusive subscription "reminders" in your videos.

  • @Yokai_Yuri
    @Yokai_Yuri ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From what I get from this well researched video. Basically M2K despite having some problems he remains one of the best ever who have graced the Melee's competitve scene. Usually not wining major or super majors is bad but at least he was consistently bouncing in the top 5 or top 10ish at his very worst.
    I think if M2K grinded half of what the likes of Mango or Zain do, he'd be an easy top 5 nowadays.

    • @JeramiJoseph
      @JeramiJoseph  ปีที่แล้ว

      I def think he could be really good now, but I’m not sure about top 5. The Meta really has evolved to a level no one thought would happen 😂 he did in 2019, going on an insane run at big house 9, but he would go against a new zain, ibdw, and aMSa. So who knows!

  • @itolol642
    @itolol642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    M2K V Jerami! The runback melee needs lol.

  • @justapatriotwithabag__5956
    @justapatriotwithabag__5956 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why was DJ nintendo blurred?