My favourite synth is the Korg Wavestate, once again with a steep learning curve but when you get to grips with it everything becomes fluid and inspiring
This was my first HW synth, but I ended up selling it a month after purchase. I thought, I could tame it quicker as I loved the sound, drift, the different oscillators and sound engines, effects, layers , and those filters!!!! but I found navigating the interface a chore. So I went for the Novation Peak, as it was a more immediate synth that’s visually easier to understand, and keep track of where you are. I kept them both for a week or two, but once I got going with the Peak, I just never touched the Multi again. And I couldn’t justify keeping them both indefinitely. It’s a shame as I think having them both would have been excellent as they complement each other well.
Big Agree: Microkorg2 Screen and Vocoder + Multi/Poly front panel controls and sequencer + 49 or 61 key full size semi-weighted poly AT keybed = instant modern classic
Korg (just like AKAI) are no fun for people with GAS. They make gear that makes a LOT of other gear obsolete by buying one synth. This however, Is amazing for people trying to save space in the studio, who read manuals and who know how to get the most of out of their gear. What a beauty!
Yeah, spending time with this one to really master it would be a huge factor for sure. I haven’t been this into a synth for a while. Not sure what it is about it but it’s just inspiring somehow.
12:00 One critical limitation is that the arpeggiator is global---unlike the per-layer arpeggiators on the Wavestate and Modwave. That means the multi/poly cannot deliver the expanded multitimbral effect of having a solid pad layer playing over an arpeggiated layer. Definitely not a deal breaker, but something synth nerds should know before trading in their Modwaves for multi/polys. The multi/poly's structure is decidedly more limited in that regard.
No. It's standalone editor. But, if you wait for a year, likely Korg will release a proper native vst plugin (for separate price). They did it with OpSix, ModWave and WaveState.
Probably the best synth Korg has released since the wavestate, and maybe even the Minilogue XD. I ordered one a few days ago, and am really looking forward to diving in. I hope I won't regret this optimistic take, as I felt the same way about the modwave, and then was sorely disappointed when I started working with it. 🤞
Pardon my ignorance, can someone explain how the Multi/Poly is different from the Modwave and Wavestate? Why would one buy this synth if you already have the other two? No criticism here. Just trying to figure it out.
This one is more like the wavestate with 4 lanes ,4 patches, different on the multipoly it has 4 conciliator per voice. New patches, nice fx. I think that's about it.
Looks like a Modwave with 4 layers in stead of 2, parallel or series filters, and possibly different effects. Sort of like 2 Modwaves. I own a Modwave, think it's fantastic, though would have prefered the module. I've downloaded the Multi/Poly manual and intend to audition one in a store. Let's see if there's a decent trade-in deal???
I think that comparison makes sense. Modwave is the only one in this line of synth I don't have but from what I can tell - there are a lot of similarities. This one is just more. More of everything
@@AccurateBeats I downloaded the Owner's Manual. Mod FX effects in both units are identical, with Multi/Poly having 2 more: CX-3 Leslie and Orange PhaseV2. You loose all the Modwave samples, such as the DW800. Waveshaping on Multi/Poly looks remarkably similar to some Modwave oscillator settings. Filters are also the same, M/P loosing MS-20 and Polysix filters compared to Modwave. I was a bit shocked t.b.h. Big question, if mainly the oscillators are different, is this significant?
Why are they not putting cv on these synths? They keep putting out synths that people aren’t that crazy about and there’s just a few things they would need to do. I know they gotta hit a price point but if the synth has what people want usually they will pay for it.
CV/Gate and Polyphony is … a bit of a nightmare. And, Korg seems to think of this as a polysynth … even if I would basically only use it as a monosynth where CV controls would be super welcome. But, also, for this particular one, you’d need four CV/Gate pairs for the most minimal input, where each pair could be each layer monophonically, or, each voice polyphonically (since most polyphonic eurorack modules are “Quadra” modules). And, on the output, the only thing here that’s not really just bread and butter Modular stuff is the sequencer (because of the ability to sequence those shapes). But, I think Korg would rather say “play up to 60 notes” as a marketing term over “integrate your eurorack” because, unfortunately, we’re a smaller market. Probably the same reason it’s only stereo out and not four sets of stereo outs for each layer, because the market segment they’re going after doesn’t tend to be the people with a plethora of extra inputs to process all those outputs. I’m just glad they’re still making relatively feature complete and interesting synths, even if they’re closer to the “budget” side (versus stuff that’s $2000+ at this point).
"They keep putting out synths that people aren't that crazy about" Said no one ever. Look at how fast they abandoned the neat Drumlogue vs. how Wavestate/Modwave/Opsix all got upgraded versions and premium 61-key versions, too. People pay for what they put out most of the time. This is kind of bad because they are also encouraging Korg to make these synths with rubbish build quality.
The Multi/Poly sounds very good. This 37 keyboard version is disappointing because it is poyphonic. In my opinion, Korg should have at least made a 49 and a 61 key version. then I would buy it! Korg may have forgotten over the years that a few keyboard players who can play with both hands still survived.
This is an instrument that deserves to be played like that - I totally agree! 49 och 61 keys, more space between the controls and a full metal body would really take this to another level
Yeah, I checked out the librarian briefly but it might be the more effective way of getting into the details of it. It kinda sucks from a "having fun" perspective though
@@AccurateBeatsYet we've had Tritons and Fantoms for years now. If you're doing small form synths, it's us synth nerds that want true analog and cv gate trigger in and outs. There's a reason I sold my Micron in 07, almost immediately after buying it . And yes, I read the whole manual cover to cover (great explanation of subtractive synthesis), but the sound character just wasn't there. Idk... sounds better than the old VAs, but not very exciting.
@@belushipumpkin. Does it, though? The old VAs tended to have character, at least … I was impressed by an Oberheim(?) filter in this thing though, for what it is.
@@kierenmoore3236 I mean, it depends on what old VA we're discussing. The Micron/Ion did everything but nothing particularly well. The JP8000, even though you could easily tell it was digital, had a vibe of its own. The Microkorg and MS2000 had their own district flavor. However, to me, with the analog resurgence, why just make another 90s VA? That's what we like about Korg, is that they have the balls, as a major corporation, to make new analog machines with no shame in their game (unlike Roland, unfortunately... Roland could hit it out of the park if they wanted to).
Yeah, that system is a lot of fun to explore! The pricing is not the best part of this one, I totally agree. It has something special about it… a personality that I can’t help but being drawn to
So Korg basically made a Massive X synth in hardware (including 4 mod knobs) 😂. Not a bad thing, by no means. Cool. And for $899 (Guitar Center).....not a bad synth, though Music Radar finds it still a bit plastiky and complained about the menu system. The fact that I'm looking for the price tag half way in the video, says something I guess. I'm looking for synth to compliment my samplers, to go without computer entirely. And the keyboard has aftertouch. So it ticks all my boxes ((c) Audiopilz). And my (educated) guess is, Pi5 inside?
I guess there’s a Pi inside but I’m not 100%. The synth supports aftertouch but the keyboard doesn’t have it… I’m personally more into this one than any of the previous devices in the same family. But yeah… The menu system is the weak point for sure.
@@AccurateBeats typical korg shooting themselves in the foot. The mini freak has AT on mini keys and a metal body at $600….idk why they continue to cut corners in the strangest places.
Yeah, you're. The line "aftertouch and polyphonic aftertouch (midi only)" made me think that only polyphonic aftertouch was midi only. So it doesn't tick all the boxes, bye-bye. And Minifreak or Hydrasynth Explorer it is. Indeed a very well executed shot in their own foot. For the forth time in a row.
How about a Polysix? It's just so amazing sounding in person despite the basic - ish architecture. I've had both a real Korg a Mono Poly and a real Polysix, and the p6 is hands down way better sounding, IMO.. We have the BonoPoly, but as yet to date no one has recreated the P6....
All this new gear out looks so fun but nothing is anything I can’t do in my daw….ableton…which you can build any synth or effect you want inside of itZzzzzzz oh in sorry I feel asleep there
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My favourite synth is the Korg Wavestate, once again with a steep learning curve but when you get to grips with it everything becomes fluid and inspiring
Loved the review and the jam man! Looks like an awesome synth. Price is around 950 euro.
Thanks! Yeah, that price seems to be about right… And as I expected - not on the cheaper side.
Great, streamlined review, mate! Thank you! 😎🤙🏼
This was my first HW synth, but I ended up selling it a month after purchase. I thought, I could tame it quicker as I loved the sound, drift, the different oscillators and sound engines, effects, layers , and those filters!!!! but I found navigating the interface a chore. So I went for the Novation Peak, as it was a more immediate synth that’s visually easier to understand, and keep track of where you are. I kept them both for a week or two, but once I got going with the Peak, I just never touched the Multi again. And I couldn’t justify keeping them both indefinitely. It’s a shame as I think having them both would have been excellent as they complement each other well.
Big Agree: Microkorg2 Screen and Vocoder + Multi/Poly front panel controls and sequencer + 49 or 61 key full size semi-weighted poly AT keybed = instant modern classic
Korg (just like AKAI) are no fun for people with GAS. They make gear that makes a LOT of other gear obsolete by buying one synth. This however, Is amazing for people trying to save space in the studio, who read manuals and who know how to get the most of out of their gear.
What a beauty!
Yeah, spending time with this one to really master it would be a huge factor for sure. I haven’t been this into a synth for a while. Not sure what it is about it but it’s just inspiring somehow.
@AccurateBeats this is literally the First modern Korg I've seen that i instantly got gas for. Its beautiful
@@dictabeat. Use your ears, mot your eyes! If you still like it, then great! 🤙🏼
One thing you missed, the software UI opens up the usability
12:00 One critical limitation is that the arpeggiator is global---unlike the per-layer arpeggiators on the Wavestate and Modwave. That means the multi/poly cannot deliver the expanded multitimbral effect of having a solid pad layer playing over an arpeggiated layer. Definitely not a deal breaker, but something synth nerds should know before trading in their Modwaves for multi/polys. The multi/poly's structure is decidedly more limited in that regard.
FIRST?! also thats a banger around 04:00
Unapologetically digital but I like the sound! Heavily packed. And that hipster bag. Cool beat Accurate! ❤
Thanks! The bag IS a nice little touch.
Looking forward to exploring this more
Great Sounds and Great Playing
what did you use to sequence the jam? dope
Nice
good for psytrance?
There is a desktop / rackmount module version of this multi-poly synth also, it just came out.
Yeah, it’s not much cheaper than the keyboard version though
At £779 in the UK, it's an absolute bargain....Great video too!
A four Octave Multi Poly would have been perfect
hi , does the editor software come in form of a vst that can be loaded in your DAW ?
No. It's standalone editor. But, if you wait for a year, likely Korg will release a proper native vst plugin (for separate price). They did it with OpSix, ModWave and WaveState.
@alicaramba7680 ah right thanks . I had the Virus ti synth where the software loaded as a vst linked to the actual synth , wondered if was the same
Can the sequencer loop on its own without holding down the key ?
Yep
Probably the best synth Korg has released since the wavestate, and maybe even the Minilogue XD. I ordered one a few days ago, and am really looking forward to diving in. I hope I won't regret this optimistic take, as I felt the same way about the modwave, and then was sorely disappointed when I started working with it. 🤞
No way would I get this, since my Modwave scratches that itch. That and it sits above an Iridium keys and OG Hydra. 🙃
Pardon my ignorance, can someone explain how the Multi/Poly is different from the Modwave and Wavestate? Why would one buy this synth if you already have the other two? No criticism here. Just trying to figure it out.
This one is more like the wavestate with 4 lanes ,4 patches, different on the multipoly it has 4 conciliator per voice. New patches, nice fx. I think that's about it.
Looks like a Modwave with 4 layers in stead of 2, parallel or series filters, and possibly different effects. Sort of like 2 Modwaves. I own a Modwave, think it's fantastic, though would have prefered the module. I've downloaded the Multi/Poly manual and intend to audition one in a store. Let's see if there's a decent trade-in deal???
I think that comparison makes sense. Modwave is the only one in this line of synth I don't have but from what I can tell - there are a lot of similarities. This one is just more. More of everything
@@AccurateBeats I downloaded the Owner's Manual. Mod FX effects in both units are identical, with Multi/Poly having 2 more: CX-3 Leslie and Orange PhaseV2. You loose all the Modwave samples, such as the DW800. Waveshaping on Multi/Poly looks remarkably similar to some Modwave oscillator settings. Filters are also the same, M/P loosing MS-20 and Polysix filters compared to Modwave. I was a bit shocked t.b.h. Big question, if mainly the oscillators are different, is this significant?
Multi/poly desktop module when??? 🤤
@@TuppenceHapeny ModWave allows to use samples. If you are not interested in that, then Multi/Poly synth is a better choice as strictly va synth.
Why are they not putting cv on these synths? They keep putting out synths that people aren’t that crazy about and there’s just a few things they would need to do. I know they gotta hit a price point but if the synth has what people want usually they will pay for it.
CV/Gate and Polyphony is … a bit of a nightmare. And, Korg seems to think of this as a polysynth … even if I would basically only use it as a monosynth where CV controls would be super welcome.
But, also, for this particular one, you’d need four CV/Gate pairs for the most minimal input, where each pair could be each layer monophonically, or, each voice polyphonically (since most polyphonic eurorack modules are “Quadra” modules).
And, on the output, the only thing here that’s not really just bread and butter Modular stuff is the sequencer (because of the ability to sequence those shapes).
But, I think Korg would rather say “play up to 60 notes” as a marketing term over “integrate your eurorack” because, unfortunately, we’re a smaller market. Probably the same reason it’s only stereo out and not four sets of stereo outs for each layer, because the market segment they’re going after doesn’t tend to be the people with a plethora of extra inputs to process all those outputs.
I’m just glad they’re still making relatively feature complete and interesting synths, even if they’re closer to the “budget” side (versus stuff that’s $2000+ at this point).
I love it, and have no interest in cv
Because CV is for analog synths
@ my eurorack setup doesn’t have any analog oscillators and it still runs via CV
"They keep putting out synths that people aren't that crazy about"
Said no one ever. Look at how fast they abandoned the neat Drumlogue vs. how Wavestate/Modwave/Opsix all got upgraded versions and premium 61-key versions, too.
People pay for what they put out most of the time. This is kind of bad because they are also encouraging Korg to make these synths with rubbish build quality.
They should just call it the MS2025 or MP2025.
probably best to do sound design via the editor
Best yeah but who wants to do that?
what is the boot time?
I haven’t timed it but it’s somewhere between totally manageable and just a little bit annoying 😜
Still can't touch the learning curve of the Korg Radias! I would have liked it if the X/Y pad was closer to the Keys.
The Multi/Poly sounds very good. This 37 keyboard version is disappointing because it is poyphonic. In my opinion, Korg should have at least made a 49 and a 61 key version. then I would buy it! Korg may have forgotten over the years that a few keyboard players who can play with both hands still survived.
This is an instrument that deserves to be played like that - I totally agree!
49 och 61 keys, more space between the controls and a full metal body would really take this to another level
The VST that comes with it should help with the function diving on that tiny screen. It's super helpful on the Wavestate.
Yeah, I checked out the librarian briefly but it might be the more effective way of getting into the details of it.
It kinda sucks from a "having fun" perspective though
The homerun you describe sounds like my Roland Fantom S. It also adds sampling ;)
The fantom is a strong contender!
@@AccurateBeatsYet we've had Tritons and Fantoms for years now. If you're doing small form synths, it's us synth nerds that want true analog and cv gate trigger in and outs. There's a reason I sold my Micron in 07, almost immediately after buying it . And yes, I read the whole manual cover to cover (great explanation of subtractive synthesis), but the sound character just wasn't there.
Idk... sounds better than the old VAs, but not very exciting.
@@belushipumpkin. Does it, though? The old VAs tended to have character, at least … I was impressed by an Oberheim(?) filter in this thing though, for what it is.
@@kierenmoore3236 I mean, it depends on what old VA we're discussing. The Micron/Ion did everything but nothing particularly well. The JP8000, even though you could easily tell it was digital, had a vibe of its own. The Microkorg and MS2000 had their own district flavor.
However, to me, with the analog resurgence, why just make another 90s VA? That's what we like about Korg, is that they have the balls, as a major corporation, to make new analog machines with no shame in their game (unlike Roland, unfortunately... Roland could hit it out of the park if they wanted to).
@@belushipumpkin yes, that’s what we *likeD about Korg …. Ut that Korg has gone missing, atm, unfortunately … may it return!
Not bad, that layered preset system is great! Typical way-off Korg pricing however, almost Modal level
Yeah, that system is a lot of fun to explore!
The pricing is not the best part of this one, I totally agree. It has something special about it… a personality that I can’t help but being drawn to
@@AccurateBeats that's a huge point...and personality erases a lot of the pricing inhibition! I have to admit I'm intrigued
Hi. Your thumbnail pic says Mono/Poly instead of Multi/Poly.
Haha! It does! I actually have three different thumbnails on rotation for this video and I made the mistake on one of them. Thanks for telling me :D
So Korg basically made a Massive X synth in hardware (including 4 mod knobs) 😂. Not a bad thing, by no means. Cool. And for $899 (Guitar Center).....not a bad synth, though Music Radar finds it still a bit plastiky and complained about the menu system. The fact that I'm looking for the price tag half way in the video, says something I guess. I'm looking for synth to compliment my samplers, to go without computer entirely. And the keyboard has aftertouch. So it ticks all my boxes ((c) Audiopilz). And my (educated) guess is, Pi5 inside?
Korg and Roland are the modern day Casio.
I guess there’s a Pi inside but I’m not 100%.
The synth supports aftertouch but the keyboard doesn’t have it… I’m personally more into this one than any of the previous devices in the same family. But yeah… The menu system is the weak point for sure.
@@AccurateBeats typical korg shooting themselves in the foot. The mini freak has AT on mini keys and a metal body at $600….idk why they continue to cut corners in the strangest places.
Yeah, you're. The line "aftertouch and polyphonic aftertouch (midi only)" made me think that only polyphonic aftertouch was midi only. So it doesn't tick all the boxes, bye-bye. And Minifreak or Hydrasynth Explorer it is. Indeed a very well executed shot in their own foot. For the forth time in a row.
@@playeveryday01 Minifreak is also using oscillators not designed by Arturia, so they save on development.
Just give us a MonoPoly reissue please !
Another company already did that at a hard to beat price point.
I’m not into it myself but… It’s out there.
I use the iOS app lol
How about a Polysix? It's just so amazing sounding in person despite the basic - ish architecture. I've had both a real Korg a Mono Poly and a real Polysix, and the p6 is hands down way better sounding, IMO..
We have the BonoPoly, but as yet to date no one has recreated the P6....
Idk I feel like there are enough synths in the world. Lacks vision and creativity if you ask me.
Enough VA DSP powered synths, at least. I hope they're not going the Roland route...
Except why ask a troll who just created a TH-cam account? 😂
@@kingtrance307 are you familiar with the concept of projection?
@@R3ND3RR0R - I’m familiar with foreign trolls who just created TH-cam accounts. That’s YOU…
@@kingtrance307 youre fuckin weird dude
All this new gear out looks so fun but nothing is anything I can’t do in my daw….ableton…which you can build any synth or effect you want inside of itZzzzzzz oh in sorry I feel asleep there