The saddest line in this movie is when Leto says to Jessica “I thought we had more time”. He’s so sad and resigned when he says it. Always hits me in the feels
The meaning of this scene is that the emporer knew that if he made a big show of it then the honor of House Atreides wouldn't allow them to refuse. Basically forcing them into a situation they can't escape.
No. It’s not about honor. A recurring theme for Atredies leadership is risk taking. Letos father died fighting bulls. His son says “avoiding risk is the path to weakness.” Their descendants millennium into the future have the same philosophy. Leto could have escaped into exile but choose to gamble on the freemen. He made the right choice.
have you ever played with a jealous man especially a DANGEROUS jealous man where his playground has voices of his playmates more than his as a jealous man who rules the universe of course he will get rid of ALL THREATS LEADING TO HIS THRONE !!!! but his actions is his OWN UNDOING as well all them "SISTERS" who dare not look where he will awaken remember every time they look at that place they dare not look "HE WILL STARE RIGHT BACK AT THEM" !!!!
The thing with Paul was that he had the best of all possible educations. His mother taught him the ways of the word via her bene gesserit training, the computational and logistical way of thinking via the mentats, and then of course the training he received from Gurney to fight and defend himself. Lastly, the philosophical teachings his father passed down to him. He was molded for success.
@he didn't, he chose not to follow the golden path, but his son did it and saved humanity
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@@quinnritiqal819 He did failed. He failed at being both a man and a saviour. That is exactly why Leto, God Emperor, went the Golden Path, did all that he did - to fix Paul's failures. P.S. He was also a failure because he wa never meant to exist in the first place, atleast not as a male.....
What’s fascinating is that it’s not 1:1 with the book here. It’s Dennis Villeneuve being extremely efficient with his subtext. True master of the craft.
The exchange they have afterwards, "is that it, is it done?" Says it all. He knew it was a death sentence, and he went forward anyway. Not that there was really any alternative. If he rejected the Emperor's order, he likely would have attacked them on Caladan anyway. The Emperor was paranoid about House Atreides, and they were as good as dead the moment he suspected them. Ironically, had the Emperor done nothing to the Atreides, he would have likely remained Emperor to his dying day instead of being deposed by Paul.
The alternative was not to stay on Caladan (there's no "likely" there, they are not allowed to refuse an edict), but to flee the planet and go into hiding as one of the rogue Houses, which Leto did consider but ultimately decided against. He thought they could leverage the "desert power" of Arrakis, the Fremen, to win the upcoming conflict, but didn't bank on the Emperor sending Sarduakar, or on the Harkonnen attack coming so soon.
@@final_animal the "likely" was not for Leto to reject the Emperor. What I was saying at that point was if the Emperor had done nothing against House Atreides, he likely would have remained the Emperor.
This scene also shows how the emissary and pretty much everyone else know what’s happening here and you can tell from the subtle expressions on the emissary’s face that he isn’t pleased about about it.
@@Ember_Janerlate to the party but for some clarity. Two great houses in the future are at odds with each other. Emperorer of all universe wants the house shown in this clip put down because they are becoming popular. To do so, he strips the other house of their spice rich planet and hands control of it to this house in this scene. He's forcing a fight between the houses without doing it himself
The Emperor didn't know of the Fremen or the prophecy. Most of the galaxy don't understand the true nature of the Fremen. The Harkonnens ruled Arrakis for 80 years and they thought there were only 50,000 Fremen on the whole planet. The prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib was one of many stock myths planted by the Bene Gesserit on various pre-FTL worlds thousands of years ago, so that if a sister of the order ever winds up stuck there, the culture is set up to help her... or in this specific case, for her to help them. Paul's training in the Way was also a secret. But Princess Irulan recognises the myths from the Bene Gesserit catalogue when she hears the stories of Muad'Dib, because she's one of them.
@joshuadalewillis you are right, the emperor was directed by the upper hierarchy of Bene Gesserite, knowing full well this would hasten the coming of Kwisatz Haderach. The Emperor too a victim here (being tricked by his pettiness). (Spoiler Alert)That is why in part 2 when Jessica addressed the late Reverend Mother she said "You are in the wrong side", and she replied "Wrong side?".
being a mentat wasn’t something only a ”few select people” could learn either, it was just really hard to become one (unless you got the tleilaxu to fuck with your brain like hayt, unwillingly)
My man looking directly into the brain to see the answer. Edit: People who are explaining how he is a Mentat, "Please roll your eyes and look directly into the brain and see the comment is a joke."😅👍
The monologue in the book that premises the story explains how mechanical calculators and artificial intelligence became outlawed. Every "technology" in the book has a deep connection to a higher mental ability in a human. Many things that we use machines for in our world are done only with human abilities in the dune universe. The officer turns his eyes to the back of his head to become a human calculator
An animal will bite its hand to escape the cage but a human will stay in the trap. He will stay in the trap in hope to kill the trapper and saving its kind. The gom jabbar scene is a minibook for the first book. ❤
Well crap , I’ve read the books numerous times over the years and didn’t see the link between what the Reverend mother said and Letos actions !!! That’s why I love the Dune universe, always something new
That damned (yet funny) Elmo gom jabbar scene spoof very nearly ruined things for me when in Dune 2 you see glimpse of Feyd Ratha taking rhe pain box test. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Feyd did not, when asked about the animal that gnaws off its own leg in a trap, share Elmo's sentiments about how he would give the animal love and band aids.
yea the gom jabar scene in the movie was meant to foreshadow the plot of the first movie. That the emperor was laying a trap he had no choice but to enter. the loss of Pauls father and subsequent fall of house Atreidese mimicked the extreme pain Paul would have to endure to survive. Thats what I love about dune. It's complex, it's got layers upon layers just like the baron has plans within plans.
Duke Leto: "Sooooooo it's done?" Emperor's Herald: "It's done." When i heard those lines, i took it as the herald telling the Atreides that theyre literally done for.
This movie gets just better with every rewatch. Hope the 2nd crushes the box office, so that we get a 3rd one edit: finally watched it - part 2 is epic
The casting in this movie was absolutely unbelievable, big khal drogo as Duncan Idaho, Rebecca Ferguson is the perfect lady Jessica, skarsgaard as the baron, not one character seemed out of place, and not forgetting Javier Bardem as stilgar!! Brilliant
Leto Atredius was dumb yo. Should have feign weakness when ya didn't have the ability to challenge the Emperor outright. Also, Leto should have also feigned poor health to stall out moving base to Arrakis. If need be, let the Sardaukar and the Harkonens challenge the Atredius on their home turf. They should have gone down swinging instead of getting annihilated on a desolate world lol.
@@VJBILL1He wasn't dumb, defeating the Sardaukar is a far fetched fantasy, even in his home turf. He knew he was in an hopeless situation, the only way of escaping fate was going with the roose and resettle in Arrakis, exploiting its wealth and weather-hardened warrior people to defend his family. His plan wasn't having his House go out with dignity. His plan was for his House to not go out at all
@@miguelpadeiro762 Atredius ruled by air power and sea power. Neither were the strengths of the Sardukaurs. Arrakis was a death trap from the get go and if it wasn't for the few loyal followers that Leto had, house Atredius would have been completely wiped out. Leto had a better chance fighting the Sardukaurs on Caladan then he did against the Sardukaurs and forces of Harkonnen's on Arrakis lol.
I love this scene, the cinematography, the tone. As soon as he stamped his insignia the tone changed, you could feel the shift in the bene gesserit. This was the emperors way of showing the emperium the atreides weren't forced to go, but they accepted their fate.
The Emperor is digging his own grave with that jealousy. Should’ve made Atreides his advisor. He could’ve take the credit and clout he felt they were getting. Seriously… pettiness will always come back on you.
Why did he say it ‘cost them’ that much. Does he mean that in the way that it took that much off his life so it ‘cost him’. And to be sure, does solaris actually mean years?
Whats also cool to see is the empire is into appearances in a way. They spent that much money and used that many navigators for a formality, shows how much deception the emperor used to destroy the people he was jealous of
I’d never read Dune or seen any of it’s previous media and yet the subtext in this scene is a masterclass of showing the audience and not telling them directly. I loved Dune because Dennis treats his audience with respect, he knows people like to put it together themselves and leaves just enough bread crumbs for the viewer to nibble on. It’s not exactly difficult to understand but the implications but it’s extreme close ups that really hammer home just how much of grip is around their neck.
Sort of. They planned to ally with the Freiman to fight off the Harkonnen attack, but they weren't expecting it so soon and with so much aid from the empire. Also the unheard of betrayal from the oathbound doctor. The plan might have worked given a few more months.
This film doesn’t receive the plaudits it deserves, in my eyes it’s one of the most underrated films I’ve watched but also one of the greatest sci fi films I’ve ever watched
@@raynooble217 To be fair the initial idea was to film both movies side by side. But Warner execs got cold feet so only allowed the first movie to be filmed and would wait to see if it was successful first. They had everything ready, just needed to see results first. Messiah got greenlit now too so I'm hyped.
What DV did to Dune that FEW directors ever would have is all the implicit undertones so important to dune. He didn’t have to say so many things because he made you feel them. Casting and directing coming together. In this scene you felt the weight.
Would have required a massive amount of foresight but imagine a moment if Leto had identified the fact that the Harkonnen had inside information and setup contingencies and limited even the inside circles information to Thufir, himself, Paul and Gurney. Backup house shields, additional defensive emplacements that were camouflaged, QRF's, sensor emplacements etc..... There were enough signs there to at least be a BIT more cautious but they thought they were safe behind that damn shield and not once did one of them go 'Hmm, but what if that thing comes down'. That ONE thought would have changed the course of the battle.
Leto knew the Harkonnen would attack them but he didn’t expect it to be so soon or them backed by the emperor. House Atreides were barely establishing their base when they were attacked. Also in this universe airborne attacks were rarely ever heard of cuz of how advanced shields had become and were utilized. Like the Baron said Arrakis didn’t even have satellites established so Leto would never had seen them coming
I feel like you actually have to read the book to understand 90% of what’s really going on in this film lol, I rewatched after reading book and it made so much more sense
Because the book is like 80% internal monologue, and 20% action/words being spoken. There’s a reason as to why Dune is considered “unfilmable” and it’s literally because so much is happening/going in peoples minds , but I thought the 2021 film did an amazing job at portraying the characters thoughts and emotions. Not an easy thing to do.
@@Songbirdstarnothing is impossible. We put men on the moon, we built the Hadron particle collider, and pizza hut stuffed cheese in their pizza crust. Anything is doable.
@@Songbirdstar Yeah that's exactly why and I agree Denis did as great an adaption as I think anyone could do for a feature lol. I'm not taking anything away from him at all, he's literally my favorite director. Still as someone who watched the film first, while I understood how the characters felt about things and the plot made sense, a LOT of significance was lost upon me until I read the book. It made me appreciate the film a lot more
@@AnonymousGameWardenNothing is impossible But many things are very, very hard to manage. The film industry is an industry of profit. This means when something is very very very hard, such as adapting Dune, it becomes a risky gamble, and as such is either never attempted, or attempted mediocrally...or of course, with enough faith and work in the project it can actually suceed Hopefully this stands to be the case, can't wait for part 2
Was a whole convo in the book that as soon as the plan was put into motion, Leto was screwed, and he was definitely intelligent enough to know it immediately as well. He couldn't refuse, and agreeing would obviously result in the harkonnens being seemingly justified to attack them to get Arakkis back. There was absolutely nothing Leto could do about it. The only difficulty of the plan was it required the Emperor's involvement.
The point is if it costs 1,460,062 Gs. This number is not a multiple of 3. But this maybe the reason he didn’t calculate there could be an assassin in the wall.
According to the star maps in the book, Caladan and Salusa Secundus are in different galactic arms of the Milky Way, approximately 1/4 of the Galactic disk away from one another. HOWEVER, the meaning of there being three guild navigators has nothing to do with the distance, and everything to do with the fact that there are three guild highliners in orbit around caladan in this scene and each one has its own navigator.
Count Fenring was such a pivotal character in the end to the Emperor. Refusing to fight Paul even though he could win because he ALSO is a Kwisatz Haderach and because Paul was exhausted from Fayed Ratha.
Not everyone knows the context of that guy, and this short video doesn't make it clear. In this story, computers are outlawed. It is forbidden to create a machine that "imitates humans" so humans found a way to turn themselves into living computers through the use of powerful, and highly addictive drugs. The mark on that guy's lip is actually wrong. It's supposed to be a stain from the drug. The spice is essential for space travel cause it allows people to create psychic worm holes or something. And the only place you can find it is on Dune. Such a weird book series.
When he imprints his seal on the document and the reverend mother watches from the side, i can’t help but think “you just signed your death warrant buddy”
I've never met an assassin but I'm damn sure that their best feature would be not looking like one to hide their skills. The CIA furing the cold war hired people who looked very ordinary and forgettable looking people as they don't draw attention when you look at them.
I got to give it to the actor playing that announcer guy. you can tell just by his body language and line delivery that his character knows Leto is screwed
The tragic thing about Leto is that he knew very well that being given Arrakis was a trap from the Emperor. He knew his days were counted and it was highly likely Jessica and Paul would also die. He's a father who died knowing he failed to protect his family and his people.
If anyone is confused about the guy with the eyes that roll back into his head, he is basically like a cyborg. In dune lore, there was a huge ai uprising against humans so they forbade any actual robots but did allow humans with robot like intelligence.
I decided to read the book and from this moment here Leto never had a moment of rest. Constantly stressing and at unease, questioning whether the people closest to him were the hidden traitor, confiding in paul about the future and constanty thinking of his death. Not just figuratively but also literally. Man was going two days no sleep on the night he was killed.
A very well acted scene. Paul seems interested, slightly excited, and a little awed by the whole ceremony. Everyone else is looks stoically depressed (even a little scared). Clementine looks like he's honestly sad being the herald charged with delivering the order for the Atredies to march willingly into this trap. You can practically see the gun pointed at his head as everyone talks around what they know is happening, and Paul is left wondering what's going on, because everyone is acting so oddly about something he thinks they ought to be proud about.
I loved the casting in this movie. Apart from the main characters, who are both talented actors and fit their characters' descriptions to a tee, so many of the extras have an odd sort of racial ambiguity or just a general strangeness to their features that makes them seem like believable products of a human society thousands of years in the future.
This scene explains Dune better than any other thing. With a few words. And a couple of nods. Deep messages, families, and an entire galaxy's economy is summed up.
You shouldve just showed the part were the herald loses all sense of formality and just says "It's done" that shit hits like a mace when you finally hear it
I’m hoping some time in my life this will be made into a full tv series starting with the Leto’s father as Duke of the house and the reign of the Baron in his prime youth.
There's a lot of material for that too, in fact also about their ancestors, back when Atreides and Harkonnen's were allies during a war against AI's that takes places many generations before this.
I love that Denis pays so much attention and respect the power of visual storytelling. The colors, the contrast, the action and facial expressions of different characters tells you so much about what is actually happenning in every scene. Pay attention and you can already tell what the fuck is about to happen
he would have disobeyed an order from the emperor and have all the houses see them as traitors. I imagine not only death to their house but the entire planet as punishment
IN THE BOOK its actually discussed as an option by the Lady Jessica, to become a "rouge house". To take the family atomics and flee the borders of the Empire. Leto rebuffs that it would be akin to "letting the Harkonnens win"
The Emporer (correctly) identified them as his most powerful threat, not by wealth as much by status, reputation, and loyalty. I think he also knew of the prophecies circulating and by this point in the timeline, things have started to point at House Atreides as the source of the Emporer’s downfall. The crazy part is, had he left them alone from Day 1, none of it would have happened 😅
@@nikkiberns1365 it is crazy because people often meet their destiny on the paths they take to avoid it. Think of how many times in your life that you have tried to avoid a certain confrontation only to walk directly into it 😂 if he just would’ve stayed in place and brought them on as more loyal friends and hosted and honored their loyalty this could’ve been avoided. But by sending them to Arakis/Dune he caused his own downfall. It’s poetic and actually really funny 😂
Yeah he even knew he was screwed what I don’t understand is knowing this why not station a lot more security around the shield dome access and within the company’s itself also if u know that their coming and your time is short restrict all access to quarters and main areas no non was personal allowed within certain areas. Give them 30 guy roving patrols and stationary chiefs at every entrance and exist and secure the main security of the compound areas to have the troops stationed within the only access terminal so to shut down the shield wall you must travel thru the troops barracks and then after that the squad leaders, corporals and then generals at the end to stop and alleviate any main security risks. It’s what I don’t understand how a dr basically a big bitch could just slip in and shut down a advanced civilizations security system and tech and bring down the strongest house in the imperium. Doesn’t make any sense when thing about it logically. I mean he brought down the whole house with a. Couple stun darts and a comfy pair of shoes
@@thelastjoker69 because their justified assumption was that they wouldn’t be frontally assaulted by the imperium or the harkonnen’s. Dr. Yuei was their most trusted confidant and was mentally programmed to be incapable of deception or subterfuge. Because the harkonnens somehow managed to deprogram Yuei, it all fell apart. If you haven’t read the book, hush. TH-cam videos aren’t literature
They did have a shield and a lot of defenses. Their trusted Dr Yueh let the shields down. They didn’t expect anyone to do this because 1) the Atreides people are incredibly loyal and they love their duke and 2) dr yueh has imperial conditioning to never take a human life ever under any circumstance so they never suspected him of doing it
Imagine if someone as trusted as c3p0 or r2d2 turns out to be working for your enemy. That's how blindsided the Atreides were by Yueh's betrayal. Maybe bad examples but you get the point.
I've read the books and I liked the movie... but it's sad they felt the need to make random characters female or black, just to appease the PC police. I mean, they should have made all the Freman have dark skin, they are a desert race. That would have made perfect sense. But making Kynes a black woman for no actual reason ... is wrong. That would be like making the Black Panther movie and making Eric Killmonger a white lady or a transgender eskimo
oh give it a break, you're seeing things that aren't there. This isn't a typical woke show or film. It's just a normal production with a variety of people. And you should respect her performance, as she obviously respects the role: “This was also the one scene that stuck in my head as, ‘You’ve got to get this right, Sharon.’ The one thing I didn’t want to do was try to be a female version of Max [von Sydow]. No one could ever touch what he did because he’s the wonderful actor that he was.”
@@Gunth0r How am I seeing things that arent there ? Everyone can see it. It's a movie. The Dune books are the art of Frank Herbert. When adapting a book into a movie, Hollywood should always respect the work of the author and stick to the book as much as possible. Zendaya is a better example. She is not a good fit for her role yet, she was cast because of her skin color and her ability to draw a younger and more "diverse" audience to the movie. Actors should be picked for their abilty to act and how well they fit a role... no other reason.
@@orion7873 for your own sake, just try to appreciate the movies for what they are. It's not a PC/woke flick. It's fucking DUNE. And yes, big surprise, they pick established and popular actors for lead roles in big productions. When has that ever been different? The acting was great and the actors fit the parts.
@@riddhimhatre3614Nope. The Atreides don't have to pay. I think Leto just wanted to know because this "formality" probably isn't very common. Not entirely sure though.
The saddest line in this movie is when Leto says to Jessica “I thought we had more time”. He’s so sad and resigned when he says it. Always hits me in the feels
You know there is an adult parody game of this movie ?
@@Beluga428huh
@@Beluga428I think you mean the David Lynch one
@@OgieSifterliar
You always think you have more time 😂 that you can always come back😢 that you can always do it again, another time.😮
The meaning of this scene is that the emporer knew that if he made a big show of it then the honor of House Atreides wouldn't allow them to refuse. Basically forcing them into a situation they can't escape.
Yep. The emissary cost of travelling is secondary. An Atreides would not escape anyway.
No. It’s not about honor. A recurring theme for Atredies leadership is risk taking. Letos father died fighting bulls. His son says “avoiding risk is the path to weakness.” Their descendants millennium into the future have the same philosophy. Leto could have escaped into exile but choose to gamble on the freemen. He made the right choice.
have you ever played with a jealous man especially a DANGEROUS jealous man where his playground has voices of his playmates more than his as a jealous man who rules the universe of course he will get rid of ALL THREATS LEADING TO HIS THRONE !!!! but his actions is his OWN UNDOING as well all them "SISTERS" who dare not look where he will awaken remember every time they look at that place they dare not look "HE WILL STARE RIGHT BACK AT THEM" !!!!
Thx for the explanation. The guy who posted this vid did a horrible job. Might as well not post the vid. This shit is annoying.
@@dudeDustinguy please go take your meds
Oscar Isaac nailed this scene. His eyes look like he just died a thousand deaths.
Oscar Isaac nailed this entire film, per his norm. He's a top flight talent...
The slight head shake in the first second of the video, the deep sigh after hearing the numbers, his acting is amazing.
He’s always a delight to watch on screen, truly one of the best actors of his generation
MESSATSU
Somehow... the harkonens returned
also literally the Leto way of saying this all could've just been an email
Lmao your computer is illegal around these parts sir
@@neilz.*thinking machine
Except there are no FTL comms in Dune. The prequel novels had an attempt made at using two Navigators for a real-time call, but it proved fatal
@@neilz."You violate the Jihad!" _- Siona Atriedes_
Duke Leto the Just, confirming the huge expense publicly bonding him & his honor to the agreement/trap.
"When is a gift not a gift?"
When you got scammed
When the gift benefits no one.
When it is ajar
@Weazle13XIII you just reminded me of an old episode of "the critic"
Also "gift" in German, means "poison" !
The thing with Paul was that he had the best of all possible educations. His mother taught him the ways of the word via her bene gesserit training, the computational and logistical way of thinking via the mentats, and then of course the training he received from Gurney to fight and defend himself. Lastly, the philosophical teachings his father passed down to him. He was molded for success.
Makes you wonder if that would work with all the people in real life, I mean to receive the highest of education
Gurney and duncan
He was molded for success and yet ultimately he failed...
@he didn't, he chose not to follow the golden path, but his son did it and saved humanity
@@quinnritiqal819 He did failed. He failed at being both a man and a saviour. That is exactly why Leto, God Emperor, went the Golden Path, did all that he did - to fix Paul's failures.
P.S. He was also a failure because he wa never meant to exist in the first place, atleast not as a male.....
The best beard in Dune and it's gone. RIP Leto
best beard period
@@darkstar3116 his character dies in Dune
wish he had more time on Dune
Somehow took 21,000 years to have beards be fashionable for politicians again
Also the tattoos racisme is gone
Leto isn't a politician. He's a Duke. Royalty.
When you're Oscar Isaac and can grow a beard like that though
Well remember everything comes into fashion and out of fashion back into fashion and, wait, out of fashion...
Not really a politician. Leto is the head of one of the most powerful aristoratic houses of the known universe.
Great scene. Death warrant signed. The bit where the Herald says "It's done" is great too. Everyone saying so much without words.
The way gaius helen mohiam stared menacingly at the atreides seal for an uncomfortably long time was a nice touch as well
What’s fascinating is that it’s not 1:1 with the book here. It’s Dennis Villeneuve being extremely efficient with his subtext. True master of the craft.
@@0rinthiani dont think it was her
@@Eb_160 it 100% is
@@Questionthis1
Foreshadowing is an art. It can be too subtle and the audience misses it, or it can be a Tarantino movie and everything explodes.
The exchange they have afterwards, "is that it, is it done?" Says it all. He knew it was a death sentence, and he went forward anyway. Not that there was really any alternative. If he rejected the Emperor's order, he likely would have attacked them on Caladan anyway. The Emperor was paranoid about House Atreides, and they were as good as dead the moment he suspected them. Ironically, had the Emperor done nothing to the Atreides, he would have likely remained Emperor to his dying day instead of being deposed by Paul.
The emperor hated how the other major houses looked up to them. He is a dangerous, jealous man
The emperor hated how the other major houses looked up to them. He is a dangerous, jealous man
The alternative was not to stay on Caladan (there's no "likely" there, they are not allowed to refuse an edict), but to flee the planet and go into hiding as one of the rogue Houses, which Leto did consider but ultimately decided against.
He thought they could leverage the "desert power" of Arrakis, the Fremen, to win the upcoming conflict, but didn't bank on the Emperor sending Sarduakar, or on the Harkonnen attack coming so soon.
@@final_animal the "likely" was not for Leto to reject the Emperor. What I was saying at that point was if the Emperor had done nothing against House Atreides, he likely would have remained the Emperor.
thanks for the spoiler son of a btch
This scene also shows how the emissary and pretty much everyone else know what’s happening here and you can tell from the subtle expressions on the emissary’s face that he isn’t pleased about about it.
@@darkstar3116😂
@@darkstar3116I never saw the movie so idk wtf is going on in the clip lol
@marvinturner5441 It's very good in cinema. Highly recommend
@@Ember_Janerlate to the party but for some clarity. Two great houses in the future are at odds with each other. Emperorer of all universe wants the house shown in this clip put down because they are becoming popular. To do so, he strips the other house of their spice rich planet and hands control of it to this house in this scene. He's forcing a fight between the houses without doing it himself
@@BeyonderPrime Gotcha
bruh.. they are just dune their duty
Dey dune Dey duty
@@keatoncervantes3997 bruh..
What da dog dune?
What are you dune in my swamp!? 🧌
@@SoundBoss5150 Dun'e know
Forcing Paul to go fulfilled the prophecy, this was a mistake by the emperor.
The Emperor didn't know of the Fremen or the prophecy. Most of the galaxy don't understand the true nature of the Fremen. The Harkonnens ruled Arrakis for 80 years and they thought there were only 50,000 Fremen on the whole planet.
The prophecy of the Lisan al-Gaib was one of many stock myths planted by the Bene Gesserit on various pre-FTL worlds thousands of years ago, so that if a sister of the order ever winds up stuck there, the culture is set up to help her... or in this specific case, for her to help them. Paul's training in the Way was also a secret. But Princess Irulan recognises the myths from the Bene Gesserit catalogue when she hears the stories of Muad'Dib, because she's one of them.
@joshuadalewillis you are right, the emperor was directed by the upper hierarchy of Bene Gesserite, knowing full well this would hasten the coming of Kwisatz Haderach. The Emperor too a victim here (being tricked by his pettiness).
(Spoiler Alert)That is why in part 2 when Jessica addressed the late Reverend Mother she said "You are in the wrong side", and she replied "Wrong side?".
@@Frostmourntto finish that quote,
“you know we don’t pick sides”
He is human computer, in dune, AI were banned, so , they took a few select people and made them super smart, each of the 4 houses were assigned one.
There were a lot more than 4 houses and a lot more than 4 mentats.
@@malkav_ils yeah they were called minor houses
@@malkav_ils I'm trying to read all the books, too many
There are way more than four major houses as well.
being a mentat wasn’t something only a ”few select people” could learn either, it was just really hard to become one (unless you got the tleilaxu to fuck with your brain like hayt, unwillingly)
One of my favorite scenes. The money wasted just to formally say, "get ready to be screwed. "
and provide the army to nail it down... the message here is just a bonus for them
My man looking directly into the brain to see the answer.
Edit: People who are explaining how he is a Mentat, "Please roll your eyes and look directly into the brain and see the comment is a joke."😅👍
‘S where he hides his calculator.
@@AlexGeo925look up mental abacus and memory palace. dune writer knew what the human brain is capable of
This comment is perfect
The monologue in the book that premises the story explains how mechanical calculators and artificial intelligence became outlawed. Every "technology" in the book has a deep connection to a higher mental ability in a human. Many things that we use machines for in our world are done only with human abilities in the dune universe. The officer turns his eyes to the back of his head to become a human calculator
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An animal will bite its hand to escape the cage but a human will stay in the trap. He will stay in the trap in hope to kill the trapper and saving its kind. The gom jabbar scene is a minibook for the first book. ❤
"here your Gom Jabbar" cannot WAIT for that
"I am the gom jabber test of all humanity"
Well crap , I’ve read the books numerous times over the years and didn’t see the link between what the Reverend mother said and Letos actions !!! That’s why I love the Dune universe, always something new
That damned (yet funny) Elmo gom jabbar scene spoof very nearly ruined things for me when in Dune 2 you see glimpse of Feyd Ratha taking rhe pain box test. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Feyd did not, when asked about the animal that gnaws off its own leg in a trap, share Elmo's sentiments about how he would give the animal love and band aids.
yea the gom jabar scene in the movie was meant to foreshadow the plot of the first movie. That the emperor was laying a trap he had no choice but to enter. the loss of Pauls father and subsequent fall of house Atreidese mimicked the extreme pain Paul would have to endure to survive.
Thats what I love about dune. It's complex, it's got layers upon layers just like the baron has plans within plans.
Imagine if Thufir just said "I don't know"
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Bruh!!! Duke Leto would have looked over his shoulder like WTF? 😂😂😂
somehow I always confuse the Fair Witnesses with the Mentats
one second, let me get my cell phone
-quickly performs mathematical operations, makes a mistake, erases, starts over again
Thufur should have said, “an arm and a leg at least.”
Duke Leto: "Sooooooo it's done?"
Emperor's Herald: "It's done."
When i heard those lines, i took it as the herald telling the Atreides that theyre literally done for.
ya an the look on his face when he said it
@@sheldonmustdie2 Yeah, a hint of pity.
This movie is soooo good. Can't wait for part 2...
This movie gets just better with every rewatch. Hope the 2nd crushes the box office, so that we get a 3rd one
edit: finally watched it - part 2 is epic
I second that
I happily third
I think the trilogy is already confirmed
And It will!
Hope second movie won't be slow as snail
"This could have been an email but the courtesy you give before getting rid of me is appreciated."
The casting in this movie was absolutely unbelievable, big khal drogo as Duncan Idaho, Rebecca Ferguson is the perfect lady Jessica, skarsgaard as the baron, not one character seemed out of place, and not forgetting Javier Bardem as stilgar!! Brilliant
Duncan Casting was questionable
@@markmooney9416 yeah, watched it for the third time yesterday. Also not sure about Duncan, but hey... everything else matches so well.
I could do without twink Paul and mystery meat chani.
@@shanetuma3845 Gal Gadot Chani
@@markmooney9416 no please, her accent and acting is worse than Schwarzenegger
The Emperor really sent a delegation for an official Fate Sealing Ceremony. Padisha Emperor? More like Petty-sha Emperor 😂😂😂😂😂
Just as Baron said it: “The Emperor’s a jealous man… a dangerous, jealous man”
Leto Atredius was dumb yo. Should have feign weakness when ya didn't have the ability to challenge the Emperor outright. Also, Leto should have also feigned poor health to stall out moving base to Arrakis. If need be, let the Sardaukar and the Harkonens challenge the Atredius on their home turf. They should have gone down swinging instead of getting annihilated on a desolate world lol.
@@VJBILL1 This fan-fic is dumb yo
@@VJBILL1He wasn't dumb, defeating the Sardaukar is a far fetched fantasy, even in his home turf.
He knew he was in an hopeless situation, the only way of escaping fate was going with the roose and resettle in Arrakis, exploiting its wealth and weather-hardened warrior people to defend his family.
His plan wasn't having his House go out with dignity. His plan was for his House to not go out at all
@@miguelpadeiro762 Atredius ruled by air power and sea power. Neither were the strengths of the Sardukaurs. Arrakis was a death trap from the get go and if it wasn't for the few loyal followers that Leto had, house Atredius would have been completely wiped out. Leto had a better chance fighting the Sardukaurs on Caladan then he did against the Sardukaurs and forces of Harkonnen's on Arrakis lol.
I love this scene, the cinematography, the tone. As soon as he stamped his insignia the tone changed, you could feel the shift in the bene gesserit. This was the emperors way of showing the emperium the atreides weren't forced to go, but they accepted their fate.
The Emperor is digging his own grave with that jealousy. Should’ve made Atreides his advisor. He could’ve take the credit and clout he felt they were getting. Seriously… pettiness will always come back on you.
Exactly
House Atreides matched or exceeded the Emperor in popularity and military strength. Leto tried to step away, but the Emperor wouldn't let that go.
The emperor loved Leto and literally wished Leto was his son, it's Leto's just too popular and too much of a loose cannon to leave alive.
And we wouldn't have the books, games and movies... every story needs a dumb drama
Oscar Isaac is so handsome
Thank you.
only thing i understood in this scene
"The Emperor put a lot of money into making sure your house takes it in the exhaust."
When your enemy spends a whole of 1.46 million and 62 solaris just to tell you, you are fu**ed
That’s actually cheap this fuckers own entire planets
Why did he say it ‘cost them’ that much. Does he mean that in the way that it took that much off his life so it ‘cost him’. And to be sure, does solaris actually mean years?
@@jakekerr8152 solari is just the currency. he means 1, 460, 062 solaris
@@jakekerr8152 I think it's the currency. Apparently space travel is super expensive in their universe
@@jakekerr8152 it's their currency, space travel is super expensive
Whats also cool to see is the empire is into appearances in a way. They spent that much money and used that many navigators for a formality, shows how much deception the emperor used to destroy the people he was jealous of
I’d never read Dune or seen any of it’s previous media and yet the subtext in this scene is a masterclass of showing the audience and not telling them directly. I loved Dune because Dennis treats his audience with respect, he knows people like to put it together themselves and leaves just enough bread crumbs for the viewer to nibble on. It’s not exactly difficult to understand but the implications but it’s extreme close ups that really hammer home just how much of grip is around their neck.
@@trisinthe director
basically if u read the book, it’s set up for them to extinguish the atredies line from the very beginning
the name please
@@user-soon300Star Wars extended universe
@@user-soon300Riverdale
@@user-soon300are you joking?
@@mg6md excuse me
Yeah, my eyes do that, too, when I try to do math.
Mom, im internet famous!
It's like a history book where we know the outcome.
@@phatmattcowboys even the atreides know the outcome
Even the Atreides knew they we're screwed.
Nope I only saw the movie. Fkn boomer. I have understood all this thing in a diff way fk you
Sort of. They planned to ally with the Freiman to fight off the Harkonnen attack, but they weren't expecting it so soon and with so much aid from the empire. Also the unheard of betrayal from the oathbound doctor. The plan might have worked given a few more months.
This man's beard game is on point.
Still cheaper than British train ticket
And more reliable
😂😂😂😂
This film doesn’t receive the plaudits it deserves, in my eyes it’s one of the most underrated films I’ve watched but also one of the greatest sci fi films I’ve ever watched
Wouldnt say underrated. It did so well both in box office and critic reception warner bros grennlit the sequel four days into screenings.
@@raynooble217 To be fair the initial idea was to film both movies side by side. But Warner execs got cold feet so only allowed the first movie to be filmed and would wait to see if it was successful first. They had everything ready, just needed to see results first.
Messiah got greenlit now too so I'm hyped.
In which world is the 2021 version of Dune an underrated film?
What DV did to Dune that FEW directors ever would have is all the implicit undertones so important to dune.
He didn’t have to say so many things because he made you feel them.
Casting and directing coming together.
In this scene you felt the weight.
Would have required a massive amount of foresight but imagine a moment if Leto had identified the fact that the Harkonnen had inside information and setup contingencies and limited even the inside circles information to Thufir, himself, Paul and Gurney. Backup house shields, additional defensive emplacements that were camouflaged, QRF's, sensor emplacements etc..... There were enough signs there to at least be a BIT more cautious but they thought they were safe behind that damn shield and not once did one of them go 'Hmm, but what if that thing comes down'. That ONE thought would have changed the course of the battle.
Leto knew the Harkonnen would attack them but he didn’t expect it to be so soon or them backed by the emperor. House Atreides were barely establishing their base when they were attacked. Also in this universe airborne attacks were rarely ever heard of cuz of how advanced shields had become and were utilized. Like the Baron said Arrakis didn’t even have satellites established so Leto would never had seen them coming
imagine bros eyes roll back like that when he busts a fat one.
I feel like you actually have to read the book to understand 90% of what’s really going on in this film lol, I rewatched after reading book and it made so much more sense
Because the book is like 80% internal monologue, and 20% action/words being spoken. There’s a reason as to why Dune is considered “unfilmable” and it’s literally because so much is happening/going in peoples minds , but I thought the 2021 film did an amazing job at portraying the characters thoughts and emotions. Not an easy thing to do.
@@Songbirdstarnothing is impossible. We put men on the moon, we built the Hadron particle collider, and pizza hut stuffed cheese in their pizza crust. Anything is doable.
@@Songbirdstar Yeah that's exactly why and I agree Denis did as great an adaption as I think anyone could do for a feature lol. I'm not taking anything away from him at all, he's literally my favorite director.
Still as someone who watched the film first, while I understood how the characters felt about things and the plot made sense, a LOT of significance was lost upon me until I read the book. It made me appreciate the film a lot more
@@AnonymousGameWardenNothing is impossible
But many things are very, very hard to manage.
The film industry is an industry of profit. This means when something is very very very hard, such as adapting Dune, it becomes a risky gamble, and as such is either never attempted, or attempted mediocrally...or of course, with enough faith and work in the project it can actually suceed
Hopefully this stands to be the case, can't wait for part 2
@@miguelpadeiro762 hopefully they include more boobs
Everyone involved seemed to realise it was a trap. You can see the pity in the herald’s eyes just before he bows
Was a whole convo in the book that as soon as the plan was put into motion, Leto was screwed, and he was definitely intelligent enough to know it immediately as well.
He couldn't refuse, and agreeing would obviously result in the harkonnens being seemingly justified to attack them to get Arakkis back. There was absolutely nothing Leto could do about it.
The only difficulty of the plan was it required the Emperor's involvement.
Exactly. Leto even asks Jessica if she would protect Paul, she replies he's my son... And Leto says no... I'm asking the bene Jesuit.
I actually thought the meaning of this scene was to somewhat introduce what exactly a Mentat is, and does.
It's both lol
Really am ready for part 2. So intrigued with this Dune universe 🤨
Duniverse
That's one expensive death warrant.
The point is if it costs 1,460,062 Gs.
This number is not a multiple of 3. But this maybe the reason he didn’t calculate there could be an assassin in the wall.
When dude pressed Leto for his seal…..we knew the the spice was gonna hit the fan
“This could’ve been an email”
I would go see a movie if I knew Oscar Isaac was in it. Watch A Most Violent Year, Ex Machina, Annihilation. He elevates the material.
Three guild navigators? So that means the Atreides home planet is quite a distance away from the empire center?
According to the star maps in the book, Caladan and Salusa Secundus are in different galactic arms of the Milky Way, approximately 1/4 of the Galactic disk away from one another. HOWEVER, the meaning of there being three guild navigators has nothing to do with the distance, and everything to do with the fact that there are three guild highliners in orbit around caladan in this scene and each one has its own navigator.
@@mattstrandquist2148Yep, 3 massive ships to get the point across without rebellion
@@justin-time5880that point being? 😮
When you only need one navigator, but send two extra navigators to do nothing, because you want to remind everybody you are OP.
@@chazboxzero 😂
Count Fenring was such a pivotal character in the end to the Emperor. Refusing to fight Paul even though he could win because he ALSO is a Kwisatz Haderach and because Paul was exhausted from Fayed Ratha.
Not everyone knows the context of that guy, and this short video doesn't make it clear. In this story, computers are outlawed. It is forbidden to create a machine that "imitates humans" so humans found a way to turn themselves into living computers through the use of powerful, and highly addictive drugs. The mark on that guy's lip is actually wrong. It's supposed to be a stain from the drug.
The spice is essential for space travel cause it allows people to create psychic worm holes or something. And the only place you can find it is on Dune. Such a weird book series.
When he imprints his seal on the document and the reverend mother watches from the side, i can’t help but think “you just signed your death warrant buddy”
I imagined Howard to be a thin toll old man you know like an actual assassin
I thought that was strange too. He’s basically just serves a mentat in this interpretation
A good assassin doesn't let you know
He’s been with the family for 7 generations and is an assassin planning genius. He doesn’t carry out the orders, he plans everything
Who's Howard
I've never met an assassin but I'm damn sure that their best feature would be not looking like one to hide their skills. The CIA furing the cold war hired people who looked very ordinary and forgettable looking people as they don't draw attention when you look at them.
I got to give it to the actor playing that announcer guy. you can tell just by his body language and line delivery that his character knows Leto is screwed
The tragic thing about Leto is that he knew very well that being given Arrakis was a trap from the Emperor. He knew his days were counted and it was highly likely Jessica and Paul would also die.
He's a father who died knowing he failed to protect his family and his people.
This was a great update to the original! The acting was so on point! The effects were great as well. It actually feels believable.
That beard is straight up perfection
"We have more money than you will ever have"
“We paid this much money just so we could see the look on your face, knowing you’re going to die.”
Literally signed his death warrant with his signet ring
He had no other choice
If anyone is confused about the guy with the eyes that roll back into his head, he is basically like a cyborg. In dune lore, there was a huge ai uprising against humans so they forbade any actual robots but did allow humans with robot like intelligence.
Mentats are Human Computers. Thufir Hawat and Piter DeVries, are a few of them from the ‘Dune’ universe.
Damn! Poe Dameron didn't pay his taxes to the Emperor... Now the IRS is coming for him...
No it was more of Poe was becoming more popular so the petty Emperor put him some where he could isolate and destroy him.
What movie
@@Malik.lockleydune
"Somehow Emperor Padishah has returned"
I swear the Herald is way more intimidating than Rabban
This isn't a promotion. It's a funeral. Leto knew it.
That's why he asked Jessica to protect Paul on the day he died.
I know its written in the book but leto is an amazing character played by an amazing actor , would of loved more
This is the only mentat that used a straw.
Such wonderful faces in this scene!
Great movie can't wait for the sequel
Excited to see more of that character in Dune 2...
I decided to read the book and from this moment here Leto never had a moment of rest.
Constantly stressing and at unease, questioning whether the people closest to him were the hidden traitor, confiding in paul about the future and constanty thinking of his death. Not just figuratively but also literally. Man was going two days no sleep on the night he was killed.
Love the detail in this movie
What movie
That is one hell of a beard
A very well acted scene. Paul seems interested, slightly excited, and a little awed by the whole ceremony. Everyone else is looks stoically depressed (even a little scared). Clementine looks like he's honestly sad being the herald charged with delivering the order for the Atredies to march willingly into this trap. You can practically see the gun pointed at his head as everyone talks around what they know is happening, and Paul is left wondering what's going on, because everyone is acting so oddly about something he thinks they ought to be proud about.
That guy is Mentat, genius mathematician calculating every possible way with percise knowledge
The Dune version of holding a meeting when an email would've worked just as well.
"How much will it cost?"
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"19 dollar Fortnite card"
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Thou shalt not disfigure the K/D ratio
LMAOOOO
I loved the casting in this movie. Apart from the main characters, who are both talented actors and fit their characters' descriptions to a tee, so many of the extras have an odd sort of racial ambiguity or just a general strangeness to their features that makes them seem like believable products of a human society thousands of years in the future.
This movie is so underrated 🫡
whats the name??
lmao what are you talking about???? Who is inderratimg this movie?
I have recommended Dune to 2 of my friends and they both thought it was boring/underwhelming 😅
@@Cybersale169 Then they have low IQ's.
This scene explains Dune better than any other thing. With a few words. And a couple of nods. Deep messages, families, and an entire galaxy's economy is summed up.
You shouldve just showed the part were the herald loses all sense of formality and just says "It's done" that shit hits like a mace when you finally hear it
Such a great job of showing the futility of a dying honor system.
I’m hoping some time in my life this will be made into a full tv series starting with the Leto’s father as Duke of the house and the reign of the Baron in his prime youth.
There's a lot of material for that too, in fact also about their ancestors, back when Atreides and Harkonnen's were allies during a war against AI's that takes places many generations before this.
The herald is an absolutely beautiful man. ❤
I love that Denis pays so much attention and respect the power of visual storytelling. The colors, the contrast, the action and facial expressions of different characters tells you so much about what is actually happenning in every scene. Pay attention and you can already tell what the fuck is about to happen
Even though Duke Leto knew he was gonna be betrayed he still obeyed the emperor's orders.
The imperial herald looking at Leto like he is staring at a dead man
It looked so beautiful when his eyes went grey like Devine consciousness
What would have happened if he would have said no?
he would have disobeyed an order from the emperor and have all the houses see them as traitors. I imagine not only death to their house but the entire planet as punishment
@@Maufinvest the entire planet? no, its just that his house goes into exile as a rogue house, and someone else would rule Caladan
IN THE BOOK its actually discussed as an option by the Lady Jessica, to become a "rouge house". To take the family atomics and flee the borders of the Empire. Leto rebuffs that it would be akin to "letting the Harkonnens win"
@@MrHamncheez defiance in the eyes
@@MrHamncheez what are family atomics?
Wished the dad didn’t die . He was so good in the first
Dune is essentially what happens when you cross Star Wars and Game of Thrones
I know that this came first but still
Body language
Why were they massacred
The Emporer (correctly) identified them as his most powerful threat, not by wealth as much by status, reputation, and loyalty. I think he also knew of the prophecies circulating and by this point in the timeline, things have started to point at House Atreides as the source of the Emporer’s downfall. The crazy part is, had he left them alone from Day 1, none of it would have happened 😅
@@nikkiberns1365 self-fulfilling prophecy, king didn't stand a chance.
Oh so is this what this story universe all about?
@@MollyHJohns much more
@@nikkiberns1365 it is crazy because people often meet their destiny on the paths they take to avoid it. Think of how many times in your life that you have tried to avoid a certain confrontation only to walk directly into it 😂 if he just would’ve stayed in place and brought them on as more loyal friends and hosted and honored their loyalty this could’ve been avoided. But by sending them to Arakis/Dune he caused his own downfall. It’s poetic and actually really funny 😂
Yeah he even knew he was screwed what I don’t understand is knowing this why not station a lot more security around the shield dome access and within the company’s itself also if u know that their coming and your time is short restrict all access to quarters and main areas no non was personal allowed within certain areas. Give them 30 guy roving patrols and stationary chiefs at every entrance and exist and secure the main security of the compound areas to have the troops stationed within the only access terminal so to shut down the shield wall you must travel thru the troops barracks and then after that the squad leaders, corporals and then generals at the end to stop and alleviate any main security risks. It’s what I don’t understand how a dr basically a big bitch could just slip in and shut down a advanced civilizations security system and tech and bring down the strongest house in the imperium. Doesn’t make any sense when thing about it logically. I mean he brought down the whole house with a. Couple stun darts and a comfy pair of shoes
You read the book?
@@bomidalsasquatch I didn’t read the book bud i understood the technology,martial art and every houses, clan, cult or order are terrifying.
@@thelastjoker69 because their justified assumption was that they wouldn’t be frontally assaulted by the imperium or the harkonnen’s. Dr. Yuei was their most trusted confidant and was mentally programmed to be incapable of deception or subterfuge. Because the harkonnens somehow managed to deprogram Yuei, it all fell apart. If you haven’t read the book, hush. TH-cam videos aren’t literature
They did have a shield and a lot of defenses. Their trusted Dr Yueh let the shields down. They didn’t expect anyone to do this because 1) the Atreides people are incredibly loyal and they love their duke and 2) dr yueh has imperial conditioning to never take a human life ever under any circumstance so they never suspected him of doing it
Imagine if someone as trusted as c3p0 or r2d2 turns out to be working for your enemy. That's how blindsided the Atreides were by Yueh's betrayal.
Maybe bad examples but you get the point.
Atredies knew this was a trap from the beginning, as he knew the emperor had turned against his house.
I've read the books and I liked the movie... but it's sad they felt the need to make random characters female or black, just to appease the PC police. I mean, they should have made all the Freman have dark skin, they are a desert race. That would have made perfect sense.
But making Kynes a black woman for no actual reason ... is wrong.
That would be like making the Black Panther movie and making Eric Killmonger a white lady or a transgender eskimo
Keep it moving, bud
This is true, but you know damn well this is one of the few movies out right now not fully infested with woke shit, so we shouldn’t complain.
oh give it a break, you're seeing things that aren't there. This isn't a typical woke show or film. It's just a normal production with a variety of people. And you should respect her performance, as she obviously respects the role:
“This was also the one scene that stuck in my head as, ‘You’ve got to get this right, Sharon.’ The one thing I didn’t want to do was try to be a female version of Max [von Sydow]. No one could ever touch what he did because he’s the wonderful actor that he was.”
@@Gunth0r How am I seeing things that arent there ? Everyone can see it. It's a movie.
The Dune books are the art of Frank Herbert. When adapting a book into a movie, Hollywood should always respect the work of the author and stick to the book as much as possible.
Zendaya is a better example. She is not a good fit for her role yet, she was cast because of her skin color and her ability to draw a younger and more "diverse" audience to the movie.
Actors should be picked for their abilty to act and how well they fit a role... no other reason.
@@orion7873 for your own sake, just try to appreciate the movies for what they are. It's not a PC/woke flick. It's fucking DUNE. And yes, big surprise, they pick established and popular actors for lead roles in big productions. When has that ever been different? The acting was great and the actors fit the parts.
What?
Basically the atreidies will have to cover up for the cost
@@riddhimhatre3614 nope
@@riddhimhatre3614Nope. The Atreides don't have to pay. I think Leto just wanted to know because this "formality" probably isn't very common. Not entirely sure though.
That lil sigh after he says how much it cost explains it. Couldn't fold on his honor.
A lot of people forget that Paul also had Mentat abilities, but I don’t believe the movie touched upon it.
I thought he was just rolling his eyes over a dumb question. 😂