Water sphere air cleaner.
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- Interesting air cleaner that uses a fan to throw out a curtain of fine droplets of water to theoretically trap dust in the bowl.
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This is the type of product they sell at state fairs. It's fun to watch all the bowls with swishing water going around a tornado shaped funnel. The sellers make so many misleading statements about it because they know you'll never see them again. They charge $40 to $60 for them. Then you take it home and it sucks at what it does, but you use it anyway because you've pissed away $40 to $60 on it.
Mark's Journey I have one and it's good for allergies in the summer. Not as good as a Plasmacluster/Nanoe, but cheap and you get the aroma if you like that.
Because of you and your videos, I ditched my existing security bit set and got one similar to yours. I am so much more organized!
The thing is, make it a glass bowl for safety, might need to correctly dye the plastic bits, and add a UV type C lamp and it would actually sterilize and look pretty...
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If you’ve never used an air filter these are great. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx_dppjvjF8BYEmPSDTcgCUdRsgWYLXNHN I ended up with three after starting out with one. The noise level depends on the 1-3 settings with how hard you want the machine to work. You can also upgrade the filters and get one better for pet hair and smells which is a must have in my home. I noticed the air seemed lighter and easier to breathe when running the machine for the first time. Works great every time. Highly recommended!
Isn't shining multicoloured leds on dirty water equivalent to putting glitter on a turd?
Paul Gascoigne
Glitter on a turd is Clive's speciality.
since glittered turds (and multicoloured unicorn piss, iirc) have been previously featured on the channel, no surprise really
some wealthy people eat gold....
I have that same model! It doesn't work as well as a dedicated air filter with fans and such, but after a couple of days the water is clearly more murky and there are bits of dust and other stuff floating around in it. It must be doing something.
It's called an air washer. They don't work as well as HEPA air purifiers, but they are good for situations where both humidification and reduction of dust are needed. Bigger models that are less gimmicky exist.
Hmm. Kinda tempted to get one really. I can get quite bad anxiety issues sometimes and listening to the shower/rain helps a lot. If it also works well to get scent into the room it would be cheaper than all the air freshener refills too.
Not sure if this might help, but there are lots of TH-cam videos which are just sounds of rain, ocean, wind, etc. Very relaxing.
James Coyle
Don't get one of these, they're next to useless.
If you want a good aroma diffuser, have a look for the Ultrasonic Aroma Diffusers. Amazing machines, super effective at dispersing essential oils into the air, plus they will add a little humidity, if that's what you want.
Somewhere within 2008-2011, I had another brand and version of this air revitalizer (old generation before the LED light design came out) that essentially was the same design, and I found what you say now exactly to have been true then: however good the air purifying effect is, the swishing water and aromatherapy aspect created a wonderful feng shui effect and great 'white noise' and scents for sleeping and mood enhancement. ~C
I remember doing something like this as a kid with the motor and fan from a small battery powered vacuum cleaner thing with the fan sat over a jar of water, only there was no tube to suck up the water, it just created a vortex like a miniature whirlwind that pulled the water up into the fan and sprayed back down the sides... :D
My mother had a vacuum that ran on this principle.
Rainbow is the brand name.
I'm guessing it was a rainbow brand? One of the older ones that used a water filtration system off the top of my head.
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I've never seen this mechanism of lifting water... it's pretty cool, if entirely useless in this case :D
I LOVE seeing products like this re-purposed after hitting the market because they found a more efficient application. This right here started as a aromatic diffuser. My parents had one at their old place where you'd mixed an oil with water and it would spin around like that. We DID stop using it because the water would become murky and just look unappealing. We also had a dog who shed a lot and kept finding hair in the bowl. Now it's came back literally as an "air cleaner", genius! Round 2 fellers.
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the fact you found dogs hairs in the bowl does in fact indicate that it cleans the air
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That brings back memories. We had a couple vaporizers when I was a kid (70s) that worked by the spinning funnel. I used to love playing with the vapor stream, nice and cool, and I found the hum and hiss noise rather soothing.
I have a cat mate water fountain, and I am constantly cleaning the filter, this is due mostly to having three cats and it takes the hair out of the air and appears to collect dust, mind you the cats love it when its hot weather and I put ice cubes in each section.
Air is actually amazingly dirty at times, it's really surprising if you set up a filter in a room you think is kind of ok you come back in a week or two and it's incredible the coating of film you get across it just from something like a box fan with microfibre towel across it, it goes grey over time and stains like heck i'm just glad that dosen't end up in my lungs! it convinced me to go for an air cleaner in my bedroom always and i have to say i sleep better letting fresh air in in the mornings and letting my filter run all day i cant comment on this water swirlimijig but i know there's an unbelievable of dirt in the air to be removed if that's your goal in life!
I thought it was some weird alien hamburger at first lol. Best thumbnail 2017
In the 80s these were used as humidifiers, minus the LEDs. I remember them working well but they rotated much faster and would produce a fine, fog like mist. You would need to clean them well and add a bit of bleach to keep it from getting funky.
I also had a "steam" humidifier that was insanely dangerous, it worked by submerging electrodes in slightly salty water. The thing is there was no interlock so you could remove the cover/electrode assembly while powered, also there was no kind of current limiting or fuse so you could add enough salt to make a violent, light dimming, breaker tripping show.
Great video, and I know this is a technical review. But now I would really like to know if it actually works as a air filter .
I had one of these! I never believed any of that air purifier, ionizer, and humidifier stuff. I just wanted it to make my room smell perfumey. The detergents they use were expensive so I 'made' my own using really strong cologne and diluting it in water.
If anything, it does really well in perfuming up a large room.
Mechanism is identical to that of the Devilbiss "cool mist" humidifiers sold in Walgreens stores here, which have a little row of pins that it throws the water against to break it into fine droplets and coalesce the larger drops back so they recirculate into the basin instead of getting spit out.
Reminds me of a old Vicks Humidifier I think it's borrowed from that tech! They had a spinning part exactly like that but you could put Vick Vapo Rub in a little chamber where vapor came out!
Very interesting, even during boyhood I've appreciated the bronchial relief that Vick's Vapo Rub delivers.
Here in the UK I'd never previously heard of any kind of automated vapor spreading device, we have had to rely on adding boiling water to a basin containing a teaspoon full of Vick 'gel'', (as an adult I did get a free promo plastic 'beaker' specifically for that purpose). I'm retired now but always keep a pot of Vick's Vapo Rub in stock.
In the US we have humidifiers with that exact same motor/funnel thingy. But it has an outlet where the spray comes out into the room rather than staying mostly in the bowl. No LEDs though :)
Back in the 1970's they used to sell humidifiers for the child's room, when they had a cold of flu. They were not clear, but they did seem to ease the children's cough and make it easier for them to breath.
Should have used UV LEDs to sterilize the air/water.
then they would have to use a glass bowl or higher grade, uv-resistant plastic ... but it would be a nice sensible way of sterilising :D
TheKnaeckebrot I bet you could find a suitable bowl at goodwill.
Homemedics made one of these maybe ten years ago and I got it as a gift and really quite liked it. You have to wash it regularly, obviously, but the fragrance stuff that you put in the water has a nice clean smell without being very overpowering, and it worked great as a sort of cool mist humidifier in winter. Aside from daily washing and refilling it was really pretty low maintenance. I don't know about "cleaning" the air, but it would trap some airborne dust, though I'm sure only a minuscule amount.
This might be the answer to my problem. I would like to have a "low level" of air freshener (scent) in the air here in my home, UN-like what happens when those plug-in type air fresheners are used. To me they are overpowering even on the lowest setting. My sinuses can't stand that and by morning I can hardly breath threw my nose. Even with the things plugged in far off in another part of the house. This unit might be worth a try. As long as they don't spray water everywhere LOL or short out. The color changing LED's look really nice! I love LED's going night and day anyway!
I suppose that if there's a lot of dust floating around in the air, some of it will get trapped in the water, but I don't see how it would clean the air in any other way.
It does make some intuitive sense. People with allergies will often feel a bit better when it rains because water will knock dust and pollen out of the air.
I imagine it would bind some pollen and other dust from the air in the room that happens to pass though the unit, but not enough to make much of a difference.
Sure if you scaled it up to, lets say, the size of an ordinary AC unit, put one in every room and closed the ventilation, it might make a perceptible difference, but I doubt the efficacy.
It makes for a very nice decoration, though.
I think I'm missing something. I thought the air was pushed through the mist/droplets/whatever. But it's above at least most of the droplets (from under fan/flat disk part). If the air was forced through the mist, I could see it being a lot better at dust collection.
When I was very young, (1950s), my mom had a vacuum (cast iron!) that you put water in the bottom and the air was forced around a sharp bend and the dust/dirt couldn't make the turn so go caught by the water at the bottom. Worked excellently, but I'm sure it was a bear to move around with it being cast iron (really!) and filled with a quart or two(?) of water. (an no wheels that I recall).
I too had a unit like this when I was a kid. It had the tube as well but, of course the tub was a solid color, green if I remember right. They were sold as humidifier for the "sick room" and mom always had it next to my bed, well after we moved to a house with power, when I was ill with a cold or the flu. It put out quite a mist and was called a cold air humidifier, in contrast to the warm air which was actually steam. I don't know if it worked very well or not, but I think it did bring a bit of relief to my sinuses back then.
I used to work in a commercial laundry that had a much larger version of this to remove lint from the dryer exhaust. Essentially it was a big stainless steel box with water jets that sprayed a fine mist of water into the air stream and some baffles to keep the water mostly contained in the box. The bottom of the box was shaped like a giant funnel and had a nylon bag on the end. The nylon bag sat in a tank that had a pump that pumped the water back to the box. At the end of the day, the nylon bag would be full of 30-40 pounds of wet lint. The concept is the same, so to all the naysayers, yes it works, though I'm not sure how effective this would be given its tiny size. Also, those wet lint collection systems were phased out due to concerns about mold and legionnaire's. We used to change the water in it every day and someone (usually me) would have to go inside it every couple of weeks and wash it out because the wet lint would collect all inside of it, too. I was so happy to see that thing finally go away.
Inland Australia has low humidity air. Humidity machines are good for the nose and skin. Especially in cold weather. Love the idea of brightness and removing the light of the machine.
The principle of using water sprays to clean gas/air is pretty sound and the basis of many industrial processes. However as others have said I'd be worried about the hygiene of this unless you changed the water and fully cleaned the unit very regularly.
a tapered shaft going to the bottom is always interesting !!!
Essentially this is a humidifier. In the 70's and 80's (perhaps earlier and later) in the states, the Vicks corporation sold large square humidifiers that used this same setup and included a area to place some of their 'vaporub' above the motor to heat it. It always left the floor near it wet, but it did work as a humidifier.
I used to own one of these, but they get manky and annoying to clean. It might be a good idea to use de-ionised water with them.
These things were around in the 80s with out LEDs as humidifiers. I remember them being in drug stores or the medical isle of grocery stores.
They went out of favor after black mold became a big news topic and it was found that these machines grew mold after a while.
I am kind of curious to know if they solved the mold problem? It doesn't look like those LEDs are UV or anything so I am not sure they did solve it.
Pretty much a cool mist humidifier. Without the skirt comb around the impeller the water doesn't get broken up as much. You should look at impeller-based humidifiers they're about the same except have an arrangement of teeth (the comb) around the impeller spinner/fan.
Wait, actually drawing the four diodes in the bridge rectifier instead of just a rectangle? You feeling okay, Clive?
Probably quite useful in a country like Australia where we have low humidity and at times extreme high pollen counts in the air that triggers hay fever and asthma in people.
I got one of these for the kitchen (and smoking room).
I liked the low wattage, and the lack of filter to clog.
I hoped it would stop my tobacco tar, and whatever condenses out of cooking vapours from coating the ceiling and walls.
Anyway....they certainly do something, but I'm not sure what.
I ran it without the additive, and it certainly draws cigarette smoke towards it, as the underside of the lid soon got yellowed, as did the tiled area close to it.
Plus the fan and the cone developed some kind of smeggy deposits. These weren't oily, and I'm not sure if they were a bacterial build up in the water. They needed cleaning off every day.
When I wiped the bowl, the tissue would be brownish, so it might have caught some tar from my smoking.
Any road up, thanks for this video, and...why is it safe to mix lecky and water in this device?
Cheers.
Good googlymoogly imagine what your lungs look like!
Actually I think the water is travelling on the *inside* of that nozzle thing. Since the end of the nozzle is open, as it spins the centrifugal force would force water to the side of the "straw" and travel up to the fan.
When I was young and looking for my first job I got talked into selling something called the Rainbow vacuum.
It used the water as the filter media. It had a comb that would breakup the water being slung out by the central
rotor and a vacuum motor up in the top half of the thing. They look to still making them.
rainbow sells rainmate
Rexair still makes Rainbow systems and the Rainmate. Still the best water based vacuums out there.
I expect that households with heavy smokers would manage to get the water pretty dirty. Being a reformed smoker, I know that just having upholstery in the house, particularly near airflow, would cause it to grab large globs of sticky brown-black gunk which no longer happens.
I wonder if they make scaled up versions of these for dust on work zones. I have a feeling that it would be very effective for wood dust, plaster etc and it might be easier to clean than a air filter.
Probably no different than a wet dry vac with some water in it.
For decades a company by the name of Rexair has been making cleaning systems based on this idea and made this unit under the “Rainmate” name.
I've got a few quite expensive air filtering devices. Apart from all the muck and dust they collect out of the air, they all have intel inside.
Looks like a "Cold-mist" vaporizer we bought for our kid's room. That was in 1972. This thing is a 45-year overnight success...
I was thinking the same thing. The spinning tapered shaft and atomizer disk are just like the working parts of the old Hankscraft vaporizer my parents had when I was a kid.
When I saw the thumbnail I thought it was a video about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
This unit looks like it was based on the old cool mist humidifiers that used the impeller with the suction tube and blades to split up the water and shoot the mist out the front.
I tore one of these to bits years ago. It was a 24v dc one and the ioniser module was little black box with a high voltage rubber wire running to the vent with a carbon bristle like material heatshrunk to the end of it.
A waterwall is more effective, nicer to look at, nicer to listen to, and you get them in posh hotels and big office block foyers. . . . . And I'm sure I've seen some smaller, domestic, sized versions.
Otherwise, just use a spin dryer!
Clive really likes his SHAFTS :P
Comes with a free bottle of snake oil
I thought the video was starting with a drum roll! I was waiting for the "Da Dum Dum Tshhh!"
Here in Phoenix the air is so dry that it would just act like a humidifier.
H2O does have a partial electric charged as can be demonstrated by charging a glass rod with static electricity and placing it near a small stream of water from a tap. It is possible that this partial charge may have some effect on dust particles and may be the reason for the false claim that is has an ionisation effect.
No, the glass rod induces a charge in the water. Basic static electricity GCSE stuff.
does this actually work?
H2OVac lol
"does this actually work?" At getting people's money? Absolutely! Does it do anything useful? Based on the size of the air vents, I'd have to say "no". You've probably got more air entering the room from either natural or forced ventilation than that device can process. So, it's always going to be "behind". It might be useful as a humidifier, but that's about it.
Water is reasonable at capturing bigger particles in the air... Smoke, dust, asbestos, etc. But as mentioned already, this thing is moving so little air and water that it's never going to be much more than a placebo.
The water in air works when on the order of a rainstorm, seen in the southeast Asian smoke season.
It's effective in small spaces only.
If you want a reliable, non-HEPA air cleaner, it is pretty easy to modify a Mountain Breeze (or similar, home-made) air ioniser to act as a Precipitron. Just a grounded fine wire mesh grid and a cheap, small computer fan.
I've got an interesting ioniser here that doesn't just ground the mesh, but has its own short positive voltage multiplier to make it a more desirable target than the furnishings.
How effective is your model? My "plastic sandwich box" creation is surprisingly good (i.e. if left on, the mesh screen will start to block up in about a week).
Pollen filters should be able to trap almost all the diesel exhaust particulates (soot), but not the nitrogen oxides. You might need to fit a charcoal filter for those (and be prepared to replace it fairly regularly). Quick review article - www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic/car-clinic-do-pollenintake-vehicle-filters-remove-harmful-exhaust-fumes/, Charcoal filters - www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xcharcoal+air+filter.TRS0&_nkw=charcoal+air+filter&_sacat=0 (check the size of your existing pollen filter - and see if you can find a reasonably close approximation). Hope this helps!
Many, _many_ moons ago, when I was a kid and if I had a cough or a cold or something, my mom would put a humidifier in my room that worked very similarly to this, just larger. That thing would shoot out a two-foot spray of fine droplets and air and I specifically remember the long cone shaped "tube" that went down into the water and a top disc that I would now label an impeller. Stuff like that always fascinated me...I could never understand (at the time) what in the world made it "suck" the water up and out like that...
It might have been an ultrasonic dehumidifier. They produce a plume of cold steam.
Nope, it had a shaded pole motor driving a rotating part just like the one shown in this air cleaner disassembly. I know for sure it wasn't an ultrasonic, I would have gone NUTS playing around with and trying to understand one of those! We're talking mid-70's-ish and I don't recall ultrasonics being widely available at that time. But yeah, it had a long cone shaped tube with a small opening at the end that was immersed in the "tank" and at the top (if I recall correctly) was a disc that resembled the centrifugal impeller you would find in a vacuum cleaner. The disc acted as a "fan" which sucked in air through the top, mixed it with the water and swirled it around in the lower reservoir making kind of a mist "tornado". A little sliding door on the side would allow some of that mist to escape. Obviously WAY before safety switches were common, this thing didn't care if the top was on or not - it would still spin. I don't even think the damn thing had a power switch - you just plugged it in and away it went! Haha, I can remember making HUGE messes when I would try to lift the top off juuuuuust enough to peek inside and it would always sling water EVERYWHERE. Heh, it's a good thing my mom recognized my budding curiosity and where it would eventually lead, otherwise I probably would have gotten my ass tanned for all the mild water damage! Hahha...
Almost worth doing a video on how those motors work.
Hey Clive! Please make a video showing us what the motor looks like after a few months use, seeing that it pulls the dusty air across the motor first...
I bought the original one of these over 15years ago for my mum. Back then it was advertised more towards air fragrancing, sure it was called a goodsphere ?? Cost £50 I think but, it's been used nearly everyday and still works today - for something that's soaked in water all the time that's impressive!, I wonder if yours would be as reliable.
I would never have thought of that mechanical method to raise water up a pipe, as to whether it works, who cares, pretty!
Oh what big thumbs you have Clive.
arr water and 240v mains = good combinations . seen a seed (plant)raiser unit with similar motor / blade assy very rusty & failed due dampness it too was slinging water around like that.
Mains near water isn't the best I'd prefer to see it as a low voltage unit using a separate power supply.
glenwoofit specially when the water is filled with soap and contaminants from the air making it vastly more conductive. Not a very safe design at all, but it's eBay Id expect nothing less.
@@justgame5508 tap water is already plenty conductive. Your comment was unnecessary. You just wanted to be part of the discussion
Like similar humidifiers it would eventually leave the white calcium film on anything around it. It would just take longer
@4:20 I like it when people print out a copy of a web page rather than just screenshoting it . xD
Looks like something to use in the winter when it is really dry because of the furnace running and the fact winter has lower humidity than summer.
oh wow i need to get one of these for my health condition, thanks for showing it.
That water-spray mechanism is pretty clever, at least.
I bought exactly the same unit few years ago. It really sucks the dirt, and becomes hard to clean. I prefer to use it with water only. The LEDs stopped working a few months after I bought it. I have to fix them.
The water becomes greasy, also the inner side of the bowl. It is easy to clean, just DON'T put it in the dishwasher! But there is a lot of dirt on the propeler, the vent, inside of the propeler funnel, every plastic part that is on the air's way. You can try with a wet tissue, but it is hard to follow every curve.
Ionizing effect comes from the the water. When water crashes against something it creates negative ion. That why the fan throws the water on the side.
I did like the vacuum that was water filtered.
I bore holes right on top of the motor and it collects more dust now
I want to turn it into a funky drink dispencer :3
that is how the vaporizers I used as a kid for my asthma were like, the difference was it through more moisture out into the air but same style water disk etc.
Had one of these years ago. Absolute tosh. Looks pleasing though after a few smokes.
Lol
I can't imagine it doing anything more than humidifying the air with whatever water evaporates.
The motor is a "Shaded-Pole Motor" because a locked rotor has little current increase very safe any other type motor might cause a safety issue
I've always remembered how to wire a discrete bridge rectifier by holding two of the diodes together anode to anode at a right angle as a bridge is commonly drawn in one hand. Then hold the other two cathode to cathode in the other.
Then bring the remaining diode ends together with both hands and you have a bridge rectifier. The ends you're holding (anode to anode and cathode to cathode) are the DC output the other ends you're not holding are the AC input.
Somebody found out that air at the beach is ionized; wave action, UV, evaporation, and such…
So obviously; where there’s splishy-splashy there’s ions.
"do myself a mischief"
intersting expression
I'm curious as to how gungy the water got after running this thing for an hour or so.
I have never seen something like that. I like these little lightshow thingies. Does it actually work with dust and stuff in the air ?
im guessing a squirt of frebreeze in the water and the whole living quarters will smell nice. and you now how the back of a floor fan,the grill gets dirty, this probably removes that nastiness from the air... also i seen the metal aerosols they are spraying for weather modifications from the planes, im guessing this will remove that gunk too. and its Quite a lot I've seen a woman that cleaned off her glass patio table out in her yard and after 2 days outside she scraped it with a razor blade to get the fine mist gunk off of it and she got 3 or 4 grams of magnetic micro particles that she picked up off The table from only 2 days outside...im going to build a large "one of these" that pumps air down through water and exhausts the air into the home, and just change the water-which is the filter👍
Shaded pole motors draw pretty much the same power irregardless of load. That's why stalling the motor does little to the power consumption.
Amazon and ebay both sell units that look similar to this one you have. Some even list "Ozone Generator" in the features. "Like you mentioned" where yours has an area where something more could be mounted. I'd really like to see how they build one in, if they do. I want to buy one of these but it's going to be hard picking out which one has all the Ozone BELLS and Generator WHISTLES. :)
Hi Clive
What do you think would happen if you put
Gold fish in the bowl ?
This looks exactly like some.older humidifiers my mother had whe. I was a kid. The only difference is the top of the impeller was ducted to an output and the motor was of course much higher speed.
To purify the liquid and prevent the spread of airborne bacteria could the lights not be UV
Hmm, so we've got a mains fan and live connections to LED's a few centimetres above a bowl of soapy, dirty (i.e. highly conductive) water that is being splashed about by the airflow from the fan. Ideal for placing in a kid's bedroom, where there's no chance of it getting knocked over. What could possibly go wrong?
Would the light be a useful element if it was a strong UV?
I guess you have had this type of unit before. ? Does it work ?
Do you dust less ??
Does water get very dirty before adding more???
So tempted to get one and put goldfish in!
Removes the dirt and replaces it with spores! I'm guessing that's why they supply the detergent with it, to actually sterilise the water.
so basically take a vacuum cleaner and spray water into it, cleaning the air ;)
Ever seen a Rainbow vacuum cleaner? They've been around for along time.
the ioniser is supposed to be a small black box with a black wick thing sticking out
Brilliant!
Huh... The new color changing LEDs can be wired in series? How does that work?
Considering that the channels are internally faded back and forth by a tiny micro controller I would expect them to draw a rather variable current.
Did they sync up the fading of the individual channels so that the LED consumes a constant current? Does the micro controller shunt LEDs when not turned on, rather then controlling the output of the LED? That would be a reasonable solution I guess.
Water flying through air just lushes the air aside and effects it in no way.
You'd need to force air through a filter to change anything. Use one of those bladeless fans (not the fake dyson one) they ionise the aire and destroy particles.
so sirena vacuum is only a illusion when his water get sick dirt?
Does it really work as a humidifier? My mom was "encouraged" to buy one of these over our existing, perfectly fine Ultrasonic humidifier and my bullshit-radar was triggered. The ultrasonic one empties its 1 litre tank over 4~5 hours, but the water level in these spinning ones stay relatively constant, don't they?
So that product is pretty much a humidifier just turned upside down?
I have a humidifier just like that only it blows water mist all over the place.
Rainbow vacuum cleaners work on this same principle and they work really well..
Looks like a smaller version of a slinger or cool mist humidifier. (Brands such as KAZ or Hankscraft)