Its funny to me how before dawnguard it was easy to overlook that she was a vampire, but after dawnguard her GIANT GLOWING EYES OF DOOM give it away immediately.
I remember, I noticed her weird "vampire face" the first time I saw her, then I looked at her eyes. Even before Dawnguard, the eyes of vampires were different.
She sensed nothing in the area? Don't forget that across the street from the cave a different necromancer is raising an undead army in Meridia's old temple
@Mad Max Rockatansky Yeah - nothing could be a bigger misstep than to assume deliberate agency from what's really normal human forgetfulness. Or even more likely, one hand not knowing what the other's up to, the person or people behind that dialogue not realizing what's been slated in terms of quests or dungeons in that area - or vice versa, the folks behind the local dungeons not realizing what else has been written previously - it's a one-off line so it'd be easy to overlook. Additionally, the world of the Elder Scrolls is reduced in terms of distance "in the area" could mean only the locality of the cave, not what's next to it in the region.
Haha, yeah, I only recently discovered that one dragon place, if it's the one close to the empire camp. Only because it's the first time I ever bothered doing the whole imperial legion questline.
When you go to the Winterhold college for the first time and you get stopped by that high elf chick, she asks you what is the reason for visiting the college. If you say that you want to study Illusion magic to bend the will of others around you she will respond that illusion magic is very useful in the political realm *hint hint*
Fair enough. I thought it was referencing the mages guild (although I’ve not played any other elder scrolls, I understand they are involved in politics from references in Skyrim).
@@schnoz2372 Void? Pathetic. Weak tongue. I'm white as fuck, and even I know that fire salts are the superior seasoning. Don't @ me. Its Fire for entrees, frost for deserts, and void for unlimited garlic soul-husks.
From what I understand, the whole Wolf Queen quest has some unused dialogue in case you wipe out the cave before talking to Falk. In this dialogue, Sybille doesn't sound very pleased, suggesting that it actually released Potema. "Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world." That actually sheds some light - perhaps she knew what was going on in the cave and was aware that the ritual would actually fail (which is suggested by Potemas protests when necromancers try to bind her to their will). This is why she would not want anyone to intervene, as the problem would basically sort itself out. Her distaste for other vampires is also logical - she FIT IN. Other vampires live like bandits, they are like plebs to her. The whole sleep thing - I'd say it is a simple bug in this case. Also - I don't think that Torygg was her thrall or was controlled in any real way - he is, after all in Sovngarde - I don't think a mere thrall of a vampire would be let in, especially if he was under vampiric influence presumably his whole life.
I don't think that dialogue is unused I feel like she insulted me after I did the quest normally. She was livid thst I allowed such a great threat to escape.
In the book "Immortal Blood" talks about an order of vampires in Cyrodil. While the order is not named they do get referred to as "Vampyrum Order." The idea that Stbille Stentor as a member of that order is explored by another Skyrim TH-camr (Nate). Nate brings up strong evidence that Sybil's actions do align with the tenets of the Order. Avoid daylight as a lifestyle Make other doubt vampires are real. Put yourself in places of power. Sybille is evil, but the subtlety evil
Realistically the Dragonborn can best be described as a Chaotic Good Vigilante. Also being a Vampire DOES automatically make you an evil being esp. in the Elder Scrolls Universe. All Vampires are under Molag. But to survive they need to, at minimum, commit battery. This is often easier when paired with Breaking and Entering. That being said most of the Aedra and Meridia have very specific things to say about the undead. Quite specific in fact. The aedra are considered the Good Gods Meridia is considered the "Good" Deadra Prince. So if they are in a position of good, those in opposition to them are Evil. Perspectives on Vampirism are sourced by ALL vampiric media really but most acutely to the White Wolf Media - The World of Darkness: Vampire the Masqurade.
@@gyyrad Are Vampires really evil though? Yeah they are created by Molag Bol and most Vampires are indeed evil by the looks of it, but some of them are still humane like Serana.
watching this reminded me of how much I love Sybille. I never personally felt like she was evil as she always treats the dragonborn with relative politeness (considering most court wizards in Skyrim don't possess incredible social skills.) I see her as someone who enjoys the perks of vampirism but doesn't want to give up civilized life so she hides it, using the prisoners as cheap cattle. One thing I would like to point out that I haven't seen mentioned: The journal of the vampire who discovers the redwater spring, Vulpin, mentions meeting a female vampire in the winking skeever. She tells Vulpin that she has a considerable reputation in Solitude and agrees to help him so long as he remains civil. Sounds like Stentor to me. Not really relevant to the potema discussion but interesting nonetheless.
@@ItsDobbie The redwater spring is the important thing. The redwater is magically cursed so that it becomes a highly addictive drug used to pacify people into becoming unknowing cattle for the vampires that live there.
If we're going by D&D standards, she seems very Lawful Neutral. She does seem to be doing plenty of good being the court wizard while also doing some rather...possibly unscrupulous things. She seems to just be selfish but also seems to apparently care about keeping Solitude safe, and cared about the High King greatly (though whether it was genuine or not is unclear). All in all this makes her fairly ambiguous and as such lands her pretty much in the middle alignment, with arguments easily made for both her just being an eccentric, scary bitch that actually cares for Solitude or a selfish, cunning vampire that is serving her own goals.
What I always thought was that Sybille's Vampirism was a closely guarded court secret; she was allowed to stay because she proved so useful. She may have an ulterior motive, but then why only feed on captives due for death and use her magic to add to the city's defense. I think Solitude comes first for her, regardless of who is on the throne.
Feeding on prisoners, could help her to try to avoid suspicion. If she started killing/feeding on the people in the town, they might start to look for the murderer, and possibly look for a vampire, if the corpses were found drained of blood (like some people were found, after the other vampires nearby got them. I'm talking about the vampires that Sybille sent you to kill), and with their necks bitten.
Possibly keeping the place protected and intact for the return of said wolf queen. Really puts her in an interesting position and makes motive for certain interactions unclear.
With Ulfric's rebellion going on, the Forsworn humping around, Thalmor playing Spanish Inquisition, Volkihar Vampires in the north, a Werewolf in the south, basically all Daedric Princes having their hands in things, a Dragonborn dungeoneering across the province, a re-emerging Dark Brotherhood, Dragons terrorizing everything, the end of the world around the corner. Yeah, there are other things to worry about than a civilized vampire as court mage. Oh, and the Emperor has been assasinated.
Why did the dawnguard DLC have to change the eyes? Anyone can tell just by looking at her that she is a vampire. Without the DLC the vampires were secretive. Anyone could be a vampire and without detect life or dead you would not know it. This is what makes vampires so interesting, their ability to deceive and infiltrate populations, not glowing red eyes.
Not anyone can tell just by looking at her. The dragonborn can tell. We've got a dragon soul, after all. Some odd passive abilities wouldn't be unusual.
From my research, she is likely to be Quintilla, mother of the wolf queen. Quintilla was still in her prime when she was 80 years old x.x no historian can ascertain her death other than it happening in the year 3E 99. She was also a great sorceress who had amazing powers to see into the future (scrying). Curiously enough, she was also a breton and had a soul gem placed into either a ring or necklace, depending on which of the wolf queen's books you read, with the illusion spell "charm" enchanted on it. Notice that your reward for the quest is not only an illusion buff, but also a silver ruby necklace. Throughout Potema's life, she has, on multiple accounts, stated that she has no skill in magic. However, she somehow manages to summon a huge army of undead, cementing her as one of the greatest necromancers in history? My hypothesis is that Quintilla, being a great mage and seer, was eventually able to turn herself into a vampire and, after being found out, had to fake her death. Afterwards, she hid in the background of history while secretly helping her favored daughter, Potema. As the united front of all her brothers brought everyone from hammerfall to the imperium to eventually beat back Potema's relentless assault, she then began to resurrect the dead soldiers to do her bidding, rather than Potema. After Potema's death, her soul cursed the blue palace, refusing to rest until the dragonborn eventually completed the task. As for Quintilla, she had probably been spending centuries trying to find a way to put her daughter to rest. Becoming Court Wizard was simply a way to speed up her research, noted on how she forced the council of solitude to spend an enumerous amounts of money towards her experiments while receiving her scrying as an award. The summoning ritual was a good chance to bring potema into an ethereal form to then finally be laid to rest, making it undesirable for anyone to interrupt it. When Potema was finally put to rest, the reason for her living for so long had finally been completed and Quintilla, now cursed with immortality, could finally rest.
or she was trying to revive her daughter & when her daughter was destroyed she lost the will to live '.' her goal seems to be hiding the ritual to allow it to succeed. if that's the case it can be assumed she was a very controlling mother as the revival ritual was also set up to control potema too.
see into the future? Wouldn't that mean that her scrying that area would have revealed the dragonborn's actions? If she knew what the dragonborn was going to do, I don't remember her personally doing anything to stop the dragonborn... the first *and* second time. If she was protecting potema, she half-assed the job. She should have made sure no one sent anyone to that cave. Once the DB meddled the first time, that should have run alarm bells for her, and she would have perhaps tried to confront the DB directly. If she scryed ahead, perhaps she forsaw her defeat, and laying in bed was all she could do for now. I'd still like to think she was not a complete bastard
I believe she sends us to take care of some other vampires hidden in the dark because she truly despises their way of living her "condition". Like she said : « Filthy creatures, aren’t they ? Living in the darkness, like they do. So uncivilized. I prefer finery. » Vampires who have been infiltrated Cyrodiil’s high society have a similar way of dealing with their kind. They watch for them, and control their numbers so they can remain undetected themselves. Like other kinds, vampires both share characteristics and vary much from one another. Although she’s used her eloquence and magic to get herself to a powerful position, as far as Sybille’s influence goes, I don’t believe she is close to be the hidden ruler of Skyrim, no. Her love for Torygg as a boy then king seems truly sincere. But that doesn’t mean she didn’t influence him for her own purpose either. The most interesting thing to me is her resting after Potema's ultimate defeat. This suggests indeed a powerful connection between the two, because it is such an unusual rest. Sleeping is usually not a peaceful rest for vampires. They all seem to experience awful nightmares that appear to be caused by nonother than the Daedra Vaermina. So, they don’t like to sleep. The fact that Sybille tries to convince the court to stay away from Potema’s cave and that she remains in such a deep sleep after her defeat makes me think it is more than an emotionnal link she shared with the Wolf Queen. I can very much picture Sybille being part of the Kingdom of Death Potema ruled for over ten years, centuries ago, and trying to bring her back. Her link to the queen remains enigmatic. I would suggest it is possible that through some necromantic magic Sybille owns a part of Potema's soul.
Personally I think its a tad more complicated than that. I've always found all of that odd, but saw it from a different view after playing through the Dawn Guard DLC. I think the wolf queen became a master vampire while she was alive, in order to cheat death of course. She did murder countless people when she was living. I think the vampires underneath Solitude and Sybille are/were vampires created by The Wolf queen. Hence the unseen connection.
Wilem Plank I believe she is with the tribe of vampires that run cyrodiil they tend to have a hand within the empire and blend in which would make sense seeing as how the dawnguard failed to find her
I recently read a book in Skyrim where a vampire hunter was asking a wiseman for the various types of vampires of Nirn. After every tale the hunter journied and hunted the said vampire types, allways returning triumphant. However after the wiseman told him of the Cyrodil high vampires, how they blend so well in the society and never to be seen or felt, the vampire hunter returned with empty hands only to discover that the wiseman was one from the very begining. Potema was of royal blood, born and raised in Cyrodil. If she had any vampiric connections, it will be them. So Sibil is most likely a cyrodilic vampire, all evidences, no matter how little and vague, points to them.
Can you imagine if our character had a voice and when we killed the ritual master they were like "Looks like I put an end to thaaa...Oh shit she's flying away."
the last time bethesda place a voice on the player character, people criticized it (fallout 4), saying it lost the whole "role playing" feel. Im okay with it tho.
I also want to point out that vampires seem to hate most other vampires. Vampires make small covens and usually kill others. The Volkahar quests bring this point home, most of their quests are 'retrieve artifact(s)' 'kill vampires' or 'kill dawnguard.' Once you've grabbed those artifacts and eliminated the dawnguard all that's really left is kill vampires.
Pepsi Man the dragon born is technically not a propper mortal of Nirn. they have a dragon soul and dragons are immortal (unless killed and they have their soul absorbed) this could make it slightly unfair to have him as high king.
"...or was she simply politically minded, who happened to not give a shit about anyone else, and who just happened to be a vampire..." She should run for public office
I think she is OK. She didn't indoctrinate Torygg while helping raising him. He grew to be a worthy, even if short-lived High king, because of Ulfric's treachery. She is cynical but loyal, and underwhelmed by Elisif.
Here's a little something that breaks the Potema theory. The sleeping thing is a bug and once you have the unofficial patch, it fixes it. In the creation kit, there was a schedule that she was supposed to follow, but never transferred correctly into the game and instead the sleep schedule bug was put in instead. And she is actually terrified of potema. Here is some cut dialogue found in the game files that occurs before Falk sends you the letter telling about potema and her return: Sybille- What did you do in Wolfskull cave?!" You could then reply by choosing one of the three options: You- Who are you? Sybille- "I'm Sybille Stentor, court mage of Solitude, and according to my scrying you've managed to unleash Potema herself!" You- I stopped some Necromancers from summoning Potema. Sybille- "You weren't nearly as successful as you think, fool. According to my scrying the Wolf Queen has returned." You- I'm here to speak to Falk. Sybille- "Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world."
Or. She's good. She was around during Potema's rule, as a young mage, and set about combating Potema's vampiric minions after her death. After a few years of keeping them at bay, Sybille realized that she too would pass, and the vampires would be free to set in motion Potema's resurrection- so she intentionally contracted vampirism, to ensure she could finish the fight. But despite Sybille's best efforts, in magic, in the grooming of multiple kings, sending unwitting hit men to eradicate vampire dens, Potema's followers managed to pull everything together needed to bring her back. As a last ditch, she seizes the opportunity to send the Dragonborn after Potema. And when Potema and her ilk have all perished, Sybille finally sleeps.
that makes no sense why would she denied anything going on at wolf skull cave... anyone who knew of potema and was good would of wanted to stop that not to mention the fact that vamps are enimes in there
@@EternalGrey420 do you really think a group of necromancers strong enough to revive potema wouldnt have something in place to avoid scrying and prying eyes, i mean in previous games it was hinted that vampires can mask their presence from scry magic using illusion so why not necromancers that chill with vampires
I have a feeling she has been in the Royal Court of Solitude for decades. She knew High King Torygg when he was a child and obviously she was of a powerful position to overlook such a royal child. Only powerful people can actually interact with Royalty. I believe she was active in Nord politics for hundreds of years. Torygg officially appointed her, maybe she was unofficially a mage/advisor for the High Kings.
Notice that Melaran is a high elf. What is a very long time for a high elf? Altmer can live over a thousand years, a human lifespan would be nothing for them.
I think her views on vampires are both a cover-up for herself and that she detests those vampires who live in caves much like how other people in Skyrim hate bandits. Its essentially the same thing to her :o as both see their respective marauder-type groups as uncivilized and dirty. That the people that are a part of those groups can do better.
I assumed that the necromancer ritual had a jamming effect on scry magic, i mean it would make sense that if you are trying trying to resurrect the best necromancer behind mannimarco that you would do something to keep scrying and prying eyes blind. Also the eternal sleep is a glitch that was partially fixed, in early versions of skyrim she slept all day except for court scenes due to incorrect values on her schedule, this was fixed in a patch but they missed the post potema cycle which reverted the values to their incorrect state when the quest was finished as all court members are reverted to standard schedules after that quest line. So basically its not that she is connected to potema, but that she has radiant ai issues.
Since the chef serves food at the palace, and Sybille is a part of the court (serving as a court wizard), she would be entitled to food (i.e. hot/cooked food), as part of her compensation, I think (which could be why the chef made note of not seeing her eat). It is possible that he has either never served her in the throne room, or if they all go to a dining area to eat (at least realistically. I don't know if Bethseda gave them an eating routine, or a realistic 1, that you would see nobles/royalty doing, where they could sit down at a table, like the ones in Whiterun's palace/place, and eat with silver dishes, and talk with others. Perhaps the Jarl in Solitude eats only bread with her hands. That would be funny and sad; if she did that everyday for instance), it is possible that she doesn't go there. The bread could have been attained via other means (i.e. bought at a shop, or taken off of a dish laying nearby), and perhaps she was eating it to look human. Can't the player character eat bread, if they are a vampire? Good job, seeing that she ate bread.
A couple of notes: Sybille sleeping permanently after getting rid of the Wolf Queen is a bug, which is fixed in the unofficial patch. So that means nothing really. There is deleted dialogue following The Wolf Queen Awakened where Sybille basically berates you for freeing the Wolf Queen, which she saw through her scrying. So my guess is that she didn't see anything initially because it was a bunch of necromancers who were just raising draugr but masking their actions. It's only when they tried to raise the Wolf Queen did it suddenly come under her radar, so to speak.
Skyrim NPC WARS then it's not a bug it was cut as in cut out of the game so that means that it most likely was not a bug but intentional so that she is a potema or a servent of hers
Kid with cancer, removing content doesn't mean your theory about her being a servant or potema herself is true. Sounds like the devs just had more planned for Sybille but cut it at the last minute, resulting in a bug with her AI behaviour that makes her sleep a lot. The cut dialogue shows that, it makes no sense for them to remove one line where she just reacts to something. Unless there are unfinished dialogue plans that go along with it that they decided to scrap. Shame though, it is kind of unrealistic for the court mage of solitude to not sense the wolf queens power when she was released. Even if they wanted to scrap any other plans they could have just left her line in there just as flavor text.
Possibly, though not many high elves live in Skyrim, probably wouldn't have been living there that long continuously, or taken much interest in Skyrim politics.
@@troodon1096 I'm assuming Skyrim became a less hospitable place to High Elves once the Aldmeri Dominion got Talo worship outlawed. Imagine spending centuries in Skyrim, minding your own business, maybe doing good business as the local alchemist, raising a family of lil elflings - then the Aldmeri Dominion fuck everything up and your neighbors are looking at you like you were the one who made the decision to ban Talos worship. It's actually very sad when you think about it. A high-elf family having to flee their neighbors because of a political decision made by a group thousands of miles away. "To remake the world in the nationalist image, the first step was to transform coexistence into conflict, with the hope that if things got bad enough all the “foreigners” would leave. The greatest enemies of any nationalist were not really the members of an opposing nation, but the people who couldn’t understand why they were supposed to hate those who were different than themselves. Tragically, as the killings and reprisals mounted people had little choice but to declare themselves for one side or the other. Though the Poles and the Ukrainians would fight on, the real winner was nationalism as such." - 'Poland in the Modern World: Beyond Martyrdom', Brian Porter
RustyRayne Bretons are known as manmer meaning elf-man, which suggests that the blood of elves flows through the veins of the Bretons , giving them long life .
When she sends us on the quest it reminds me of when then count of skingrad sends us to kill vampires because they knew he was one and wanted to black mail him
Here is how I see it; She was a patriot dedicated to the good of Solitude and by extension Skyrim. She raised the previous king to be a good king, or at least a king good for Solitude. She took a job where she could watch over him and the comings and goings of the court to ensure the safety of Solitude from threat of mismanagement and only screwed up in that she was out when the killing happened. She has no loyalty to the current incumbent on the throne but to the throne itself. Kings and queens ultimately come and go but so long as national stability is kept this is ultimately not a problem. She does not feel kinship with other vampires. They are a threat to the security and correct orderly running of the nation and have to be removed. Sending guards into the cave would have been a waste of resources during a time of war as they would have been slaughtered. Stentor could not see a practical way of keeping The Wolf Queen off the throne but that would not have been an insurmountable problem, she could be directed and steered in useful directions. Stability would be maintained and if she didn't oppose it she could keep her job and mitigate any problems. The job had recently become exhausting (vampires, dragons, undead queens and maybe the emotional exhaustion of someone she raised as a son being torn apart by a traitor whilst she was not there), her job conflicting with her nocturnal sleeping patterns, irregular meals; the experimental things were her trying to find a restorative potion for vampires to keep going. With the removal of the Wolf Queen and the other vampires and other imminent threats to national security (that she can possibly do anything about) she realizes that this is the only opportunity she might get to recuperate and just crashes out. She is her own faction because nobody is in her faction. She was doing this well before any of the others.
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 every NPC is a part of a "faction", like merchants, hold guards. Kind of a game thing so guards don't kill each other? Idk. Just search for Factions on the UESP.
I think the wolf queen made her a vampire back during her rule. Her not liking other vampires might suggest she did not appreciate becoming a vampire and might actually be pulling strings behind the scenes for the past 500 years to keep the wolf queen at bay. She cant be honest about it because people would kill her so this is her way of doing something good with what shes been cursed with. The hostility could just be from the plain ignorance of people that even though shes been doing this for so long no ones noticed the impact she has made (or may have) or she is frustrated with how clueless people are about the dangers shes preventing. As for her going to sleep i think that relates to the wolf queen creating her. The reason she didnt want anyone going to the cave is because either her work will be undone and war will outbreak OR shes afraid if the mortals win she will still fall into a sleep since her life power stems from the corpse under solitude. Just a thought
That could be. We have to keep in mind that those necromancers were trying to bind the wolf queen's soul. Those vampires... may very well be prisoners. Thralls of Sybille turned by her to use as guards. I'm going to put my bet on her being good and fighting against the evil nature of a vampire. She obviously forgoes feeding to the point where she becomes very irritable from lack of blood and she doesn't seem to prey on the innocent. Instead prisoners.
Excellent hypothesis. DISCLAIMER: I haven't played Skyrim, I just watch Skyrim videos for some perverse reason. PS: In the interests of transparency, I should also add that I'm a cat; an _undead_ cat (nah for realz, tho).
"She'll be replaced in a matter of months", she says. Replaced by whom? Haafingar has no other legitimate candidate to the position of Jarl. She could speak of Ulfric claiming the position of High King, but more likely she knows that the ritual is underway and Potema will rise again soon to reclaim Haafingar as it's ruler.
There’s cut content Where you can assassinate elisif and erikur becomes jarl. Mods bring it back. High King Erikur? Gosh that would suck. Bryling seems like a better choice
I have no way to prove it, but I like to imagine it this way: Sybille is Potema. Beore she died, she used all her remaining powers she created some sort of double, to keep living, keep a control over Solitude and come back one day. Notice the ghost of Potema, we can't tell her face, but we can with other ghosts... So, maybe that's why she goes to sleep after being defeated, she lost the biggest part of herself and gave up because although Sybille might be powerful, she won't ever be like she was when she was Potema. Again, no wat to prove it, but I find it cool this way.
That sounds a lot like Voldemort and his horcruxes. Two different lores, but it's entirely possible that magic like that exists in the Elder Scrolls universe as well. Heck, I'm pretty sure it does with the being partially soul trapped and Soul Cairn thing in Dawnguard.
She did seem to genuinely grief for High King's death... So vampire maybe, but i don't think she's evil, especially considering she only feeds on criminals
She recieved the glowing eyes, when Dawnguard came out. Never gave it much thoguht tho, even if her repulsion with vampires was suspicious from the get-go. I kinda think she was turned against her will, maybe got stolen by a coven of vampires, where she then learned destruction fire magic to burn the vampires, tho was not successful and sends you to finish them off.
The first time I met Sybille I was already a vampire. Naturally, when speaking to her I noticed the same orange glow in her eyes that Hert has. Later, when sneaking through the castle at night to loot and feed, I came upon her chamber. When I selected her however, there was no option to feed. From my experience, the only characters you cannot feed from are other vampires. Very mystery much detect.
In Dawnguard during the Bloodspring quest you can find the journal of a vampire in Redwater Den that alludes to him having a surprise meeting with a female vampire at the Winking Skeever, where she wasnt hostile to him at all, and they discussed the Bloodspring and she gives him a tip that it might be in the Rift. Just interesting that they specifically mentioned the Vampire was in a tavern in solitude, and then happens to meet a female vampire in the same city Sybille is the court wizard of
Alignment: lawful neutral, with a heavy leaning on lawful and a slight curve towards evil. Hypothesis: Sybille Stentor might have been a rather smart but altogether unnoticeable mage, trained in the thick veils of High Rock politicks (Yes, -icks), that ended up in the blue palace one way or another (political refugee, human bargaining chip, family machinations... choose your pick) and naturally came in contact with Potema. The wolf queen swiftly saw Sybille for what she was - a tool, waiting to be shaped and used as she sees fit. She transformed and bound Sybille, making her stronger than she ever could have been on her own, but utterly dependent on the latent power radiating from the immensely powerful necromant. While Sybilles combat prowess was bolstered through Potema, she proved most useful behind closed doors at court - which is why she was never suspected of having a strong affiliation with the queen and subsequently survived her downfall.
Now, while Sybille was a tool in Potemas hands, I doubt she was a willing one. As competent mage that probably picked up a trick or two over the years, she was able to contain and seal Potema below Solitude, retaining her own immortality as she was still dependent on her power. All her actions henceforth are acts of self-preservation. She turned a small number of people to be guards of the wolf queens seal and forbid them from leaving the catacombs, feeding them on a steady diet of lawbreakers as soon as she was in the position to do so (remember, she's lawful and wouldn't want to sacrifice the innocent if she doesn't have to). With her acumen in cloak-and-dagger politicks, she maintained her power at court to keep this all secret, using whatever tools are necessary.
All her actions can be explained by that dynamic. She wants the vampires to be gone because they draw attention to the symptoms of vampirism and may expose her in the process. She has obvious control over the court, but doesn't act with an own agenda except for maintaining her current level of influence. Potema doesn't want her to see the necromancers trying to resurrect her, and since Sybille draws her power from her, she was unable to scry the danger. After her botched resurrection, Potema is able to gain control over the vampires Sybille created, but she is too weak to repossess her former tool (yet). Or she is forced under Potemas control again, which is why she can't call for help against the danger lurking beneath Solitude.
Conclusion: Sybille is desperately trying to maintain control and to keep being "alive", as she is mortified (heh) beyond belief at the prospect of death. Does she even have a soul left, a afterlife to speak of? Is she bound to serve Potema as slave in whatever beyond awaits her? Or worse, is she bound for Coldharbour, the realm of Molag Bal? I would do everything necessary to stay alive as well if I were in her position...
Interesting hypothesis. But I am bound to wonder, why does she enter a nearly permanent sleep instead of dying outright? Is she still able to live, but with her power and energy diminished to a bare minimum? Another thing I noticed is Falk's behaviour. I think he knows. When the court is petitioned but Sybille tries to discourage Elisif from sending men to sweep the cave (by saying that there's nothing going on there), instead of going with Stentor's plan to refuse to act, Falk quickly spins it around and makes sure an independent adventurer who anwers only to him picks up the work. Then, when you return to the Blue Palace after interrupting the ritual, Falk is actually downstairs for the only time in the game, waiting for you by the stairs and telling you not to talk about what happened. He must have a good reason for not being by Elisif's side while court is in session, and I think that reason is Sybille Stentor. He doesn't want her in on the finer details of what is happening perhaps because he has an inkling of what's really going on.
Yes, Falk at least suspects something to be... off. I noticed that as well - although I think even as steward he is not in a position to severely threaten Sybilles position. Plus, as steward I suspect he may be one of the very few courtsmen that know of people having a way of "getting lost", "relocate" or "pursuing other endeavors" when Sybille gets unpleasant. Regarding the everlasting sleep... That is about what I suspect. Sybille is still a capable mage, an expert and achieved teacher of destruction magic. Without the immense power of potema to keep her stable, her own capabilities are reduced, but sufficient to sustain herself... somewhat.
Comment: There is SOMETHING wrong with the Court Wizard position. I haven't talked to the high elf (forgot his name) much, but his line that was shown as new Court Mage sounded awfully similar to Miss Stentor's...
She tends to like civiled vampires I noticed. A journal in Red Water Den talks of this vampire looking for the spring underneath the Den. He mentions going to Solitude and meeting someone of his kind that holds a position in the court and that as long as he acts civil, everything is cool. And then she points him of the direction of the spring.
Necromancer: We summon Potema! Dragonborn: FOOL! You just activated my trap card! This will negate the summon of Potema and.......... Oh wait a minute, this is Skyrim not Yu-Gi-Oh..........
She's a workaholic who is so dedicated to her job, and trusts everyone else so little, that she took upon Vampirism to see that the job was done correctly, for as long as possible. That's the vibe I always got from her. Sure, she's mysterious, but she's also blunt, and utterly trustworthy.
I have a feeling that Stentor in a way is Potema. Potema used her as a puppet, somehow stole her body and got close to the court of Solitude. She knew that the body would not last long so this is why she chose to become a vampire? By doing this she met a cult of vampires and necromancers which tried to resurrect her true body, once you kill her spirit she can no longer posses Stentor, which results in her resting eternally. Just my own far fetched reasoning.
Another possibility is that she bound Potema to herself. Became a vampire so she could keep Potema at bay. The Ritual was to spread that binding amongst multiple necromancers and to ease the drain on Stentor. The reason she seems to sleep forever is because you actually helped relieve her of her duty which she has been actively doing for centuries. This would mean she's not evil and would give reason as to why the court "puts up" with her.
It was weird to me. The first time I met her I was like, "She's got fangs. Like big fangs. And glowing eyes. Is anyone going to talk about this?" Then I played those missions and went, "I guess she's more focused on studying and magic than being a vampire. That's tight."
I kinda wish I hadn’t lost my sense for curiosity when it comes to things like that. I mostly just take characters in games for what they claim or appear to be. Diving deeper too often ends up being a waste of time. Videos like this one make me think that maybe I’m wrong.
Reverse hypothesis: Sybille made sure that Potema STAYED dead. Potema had an entire army of vampires, undead, and necromancers fighting under her in a war for power that lasted over 30 years... there's got to have been enough talent in there to resurrect her, should she die, and it would have been easy for her to set up such arrangements - promise of great reward, bla bla bla. Now, there are 2 possibilities here: 1) Sybille was the court wizard, and entrusted with Potemas resurrection. But she wanted this psychopath to stay dead, so she purposefully bound Potema to herself so that she could not be revived by Potemas more loyal followers, then turned into a vampire so she wouldn't quickly die and lose control over the Wolf Queen. Or, 2) she was an enemy solider/adventurer who interfered with Potema's revival and was hurt by it, causing her undeath and somehow linked her to Potema on a soul level. When the quest begins, Sybille interferes with the investigation because she knows she risk being exposed, and that she herself would die were Potema to be completely destroyed. Perhaps she intended to intervene on her own accord. But she doesn't stop you from going into the catacombs, either... pretty odd for such a powerful character with a high stakes involved. So when Potema is killed, Sybille accepts her fate and goes to sleep, perhaps forever, as the price to pay for peace in Solitude.
This was a really good investigation/deep dive into Sybille! I have always been interested in her but did not know there was so much dialogue about her, or that she goes to sleep forever after the Potema quests.
i live how the queen starts with a full legion with if you count the auxiliary then that would be around 10 000 soldiers in Roman terms at least and in the end she decides on a few extra guards.
"Haafingar's people will always be safe under my rule" 10,000 soldiers it is. Oh, what's that Falk, three is more reasonable? Eh, I guess the safety of Haafingar's people isn't all that important anyway.
Yeah, Elisif is known to overreact just a bit. She's not an experienced Jarl and wasn't trained to lead; she got the position by chance when Ulfric killed her husband. Still, her heart's in the right place, and she has the sense to listen to her advisors on matters she's not well experienced with.
She was fighting a heroic Revolutionary no matter how good an adversary she may or may not have been 3 guards not withstanding she was bound to lose and only wins because your plot armor beat his
Joshua Reynolds Stormcloaks always win in my playthrough. I like to pretend the imperials are globalists. I do feel bad for Toryyg. He was young and cute and brave. Unfortunate but his death was necessary. Ulfric had to start his rebellion. They are pathetic for trying to catch him. Then killing Roggvir for letting him out, even though he committed no crime.
Two points you could've emphasised further are the prisoners and how she has seen jarls with plural come and go. The first, she clearly takes and possibly uses them for the ritual of summoning Potema. As it is stated that the blood will bind Potema once summoned. The second Potema, during her reign, summoned a plethora of undead, daedra, and you guessed it vampires. Sybille had seen multiple jarls come and go, indicating that she would've been around before High king Torygg. Possibly during the reign of Potema herself. Though a question wht wait so long if her plan was to summon Potema? Did the process require 500+ years or was she simply biding her time? A side note when you fight Potema for the second time that defintely isn't her full power. As she raised legions of the undead enough to go to war with, enough to turn Solitude into the "land of the dead". During that fight she merely raised a handful of Dragur, a task the dragonborn can preform with the ritual stone. Had Potema been at her full strength i think deeming her mission as a side quest would be a waste.
She might be a neutral agent looking out solely for the interests of the Empire. A human Empire. Follow me on this. What if she was attempting to bind the power Potema had in order to use it to create a grand army of the undead in an effort to stage a coup against the Dominion? A sovereign state that's taken over the Empire she's helped run for nearly five hundred years. It would make sense that to raise a cabal of necromancers in order to be powerful enough to bind Potema into a usable object that Sybille could use. She wouldn't use vampires as they tend to be evil down to a tee - the rare exception being what's her name from the Dawnguard DLC. She has no real power over the first born courts of vampires or over the ones that gather in the dark places of the earth, on top of the hatred the people of Nirn have for Vamps. So that idea would be right out. However, an army of the undead, their animated bodies used as cannon fodder beside the Stormcloaks - who would trip over themselves at a chance to kill off high elves by the drove - would gladly side with Sybille if she could back up her talk of raising legions of undead soldiers to stage said coup. Sybille isn't really good or evil. She's just angry that the elves are fucking with her dollhouse.
Bring Potema back and bind Potema to Sybille's will, raise all the undead using power of the ritual stone overloaded with Potema's necromantic energy, undead will be raised from every cemetery in Skyrim, every dragon will come back to life, even if you took their soul, and Stormcloak/Imperial badasses will ride the dragons into the Summerset Isles. Miraak will come back and finally get to slap some shit, etc.
I can totally see this. And "neutral" is kind of how I saw Sybille, especially since her affection for Torygg seems genuine. But I never once heard her comment about Elisif, the one where she says someone will replace her in a few months. That was new to me, and quite disturbing. But everything laid out in the video, and the spin you put on it is convincing. She just is doing what she can to preserve the Empire, even if that means binding Potema to her own will and raising an undead army and taking the fight to the Thalmor by herself.
Notice how Sybiile says "a wolf in humans clothing" when dealing with a storyline that involves potema the *wolf*, and all the wolf references that were highlighted.
Sybille Stentor is Tsundere for the player. "F-fine! I'll find some work for you, and a reward, but it's not because I like you or anything! I just want you to stop making that face! Baka!"
Everyone else: discovers she a vampire through her eyes Me: playing on xboxone special edition w/mods and accidentally fks up a mod that glitches out vampires faces and discovers that way
Sybille was going to replace the Jarl with the wolf Queen after she was summoned again, that's why they wanted to bound her by blood to give her a physical form instead of the ghost one.
The moment she said there filthy creatures for living in the darkness I was like “She a vampire, people don’t like vampires because they kill...why would she hate them for living in caves?”
Because vampires have so much power over mortals, you’d think they’d have the decency to live with standards and not live in a cave like some kind of dirty werewolf.
Along the theories of Sybille being alive alongside Potema, wouldn’t that mean she new Pelagius Septim III, Potema’s nephew, and wouldn’t that make the quest The Mind Of Madness potentially relevant?
Perhaps Poutima was channeling part of her will through Sybille, so when she was defeated, her body was temporarily exhausted from being a spirit vessel for so long
I love the analysis but there are some cut lines that demonstrate the intent of the writers was not to have her aligned to Potenma. These can be found at the bottom of her page on UESP: en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Sybille_Stentor What's probably more likely? A cabal of necromancers took adequate precautions to hide their efforts from "scrying." It can be done in D&D so it's within the realm of imagination here too. Not to mention, just south of Wolf Skull Cave is the corrupted Temple of Meridia with a powerful necromancer at work and she doesn't seem to pick up on that either. Maybe she's just not as good at scrying as other people think and she's just blowing off this yokel from Dragonbridge because she thinks he is a dummy.
Here’s even more conformation- In Venarus Vulpin’s journal ( a vampire seeking the Redwater spring ) he writes the following - “I was able to obtain passage from Alinor to Solitude by way of ship.” “ I ran across one of my own in the local tavern and feared at first that it might cause problems for me, but it turns out that she is well - positioned here in the city and has been happy to help if I keep a civil manner.” Now who else could that possibly be? 🤔
Theory: In order to be certain that the Wolf Queen was defeated, Sybille had herself cursed. The curse was a form of life link. So long as the Wolf Queen was able to come back, Sybille would live. Once the Wolf Queen was defeated for good, she would fall into eternal slumber and/or die. This way, should the Wolf Queen return, she would be around to help out in some capacity.
During my first modded playthrough I (with the help of the SACROSANCT Vamp overhaul) deliberately went out of my way to turn everyone inside the Blue Palace into a vampire,just because I thought it would be a very funny thing for Sybille to realize 50 years down the line, when every one around her stopped aging aswell
I knew she was a vamp, never thought to tie her to the old wolf queen...dame that's a good theory, Well done sir YEARS affter skyrim and its still has things we have yet to discover...
After you complete The Wolf Queen Awakens, Sybille will be found sleeping in her bed at all times.This issue has been addressed by version 1.2 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch; she will now only sleep at the intended times. Considerable dialogue was written for Sybille to say during the beginning of The Wolf Queen Awakened. However, it cannot be heard in-game as the required quest stages to hear this dialogue are impossible to achieve. She would have revealed to you that Potema was resurrected if you talked to her before you talked to Falk. However, this dialogue may have been intentionally cut from the game as you could learn about Potema's return days before you could receive Falk's letter informing you to return to Solitude. When you approached her, she would have asked: "What did you do in Wolfskull cave?!" You could then reply by choosing one of the three options: Who are you? "I'm Sybille Stentor, court mage of Solitude, and according to my scrying you've managed to unleash Potema herself!" I stopped some Necromancers from summoning Potema. "You weren't nearly as successful as you think, fool. According to my scrying the Wolf Queen has returned." I'm here to speak to Falk. "Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world."
I'm not sure if she is evil per se, I'm thinking she is rather depressed. She is a long lived vampire thus cannot have any children of her own, she ended up raising Torygg like he was her own, and her grief about his death seems genuine (especially when she is asked about the murder itself). We don't know what she was like before Ulfric murdered Torygg, her irritability could be an expression of that grief. Sybille does seem to be a Tywin Lanister or Machiavellian politician, not exactly 'evil' by Tamriel standards (Molag Ball, and Mehrunes Dagon are capital 'E' vil). In the Elder Scrolls, I'm quite certain that vampires need humanoid blood, even Serana (who is not exactly evil) unrepentant, mentions that she needs it to live. We don't know what Sybille does to the prisoners, or even what said prisoners have done. She could be feeding off of prisoners destined for execution anyway. People in the court were bound to catch on to her machinations eventually, so she probably let's their imaginations run so that they will be too scared to question what she is doing (which could be more benign then anyone thinks). As for the Potema connection, there are lots of alternate theories we could make. For example, there were a great deal of decently powerful necromancers in Wolfskull cave. Their combined magic could have masked them from Sybille's scrying magic. As for her not believing Junius, neither does Falk. The sleeping behavior could be a bug, or lore wise, Potema being alive seemingly awakens a great deal of vampires, so the connection could have been something incidental--leaving Sybille feeling weak, like a host when being relieved of a parasite.
As I quote this brilliant line from Pisha, from "Vampire the masquerade bloodlines", "All things must consume life to avoid dying, you and I [She means the vampires] are no exception". So yes, vampires need blood, as much as we need food. And we never see armies of wolfs attacking cities to kill all of us murderers. Feeding on people does not make her evil. If "just" killing people makes one evil, then we are evil in the 5 first minutes of skyrim.
From the in game book [Vampires of the Iliac Bay, Part II] : "And I wouldn't have to kill humans every night, merely warm-blooded creatures. Orcs have a delicious, rich brothy blood; rats are a little sweet for the only meal of the night; werewolves are a real treat, almost decadent the tincture between human and beast. A real gourmet's delight." So a vampire could feed from pig/cow blood. Feeding from humans is "evil".
Well, it actually depends the lore we are set in. And it kind of is like saying that humans can feed on vegetables so feeding on animals is evil. Althought some people do think that way.Except the vampire doesn't necessarily have to kill.
The lore of The Elder Scrolls is the same regardless of the game. Also, humans can feed on other humans too (it happened). So you can't compare human eating animals and vampires feeding on humans. If it was okay for vampires to eat humans, it would be okay for humans too. Especially considering that vampires are "cursed" humans. If a vampire do not kill the human it feeds on, that human will alert people that he was attacked by a vampire. And the victim could turn into a vampire too if not cured in the next 3 days. More vampires is not something a vampire would want as it would increase the numbers of victims and raise more awareness on its presence. (when I say humans, I mean elves/khajiits/argonians too)
I wasn't refering to Elder Scrolls lore, but the general lore of what a vampire is. A vampire can use his pretty seductive power or some mind control to erase the memory of the human he fed on. And I'm not really sure just feeding on a human makes him a vampire. And for once, I'll use Elder Scrolls exclusively. While a vampire in oblivion, you can feed on numerous sleeping people, you can not kill them, and they wont turn into vampires, neither will they alert people or even understand what you did to them in their sleep.
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What a video! Thanks for the indepth look on Sybille, I've always taken her for a someone who just says what everyone is thinking like many people I know. Not once did I ever consider her to be evil and this video has definitely got me thinking.
Apparently the sleeping thing is a bug. Also there is unused dialogue, where Sybille (after "The Wolf Queen Awakened" is completed) asks the Dragonborn what he did in Wolfskull cave and tells him that she sensed that the Wolf Queen has been awakened, which she seems to oppose. So she definetely is a shady character but she seems to follow her own agenda. She also is her own faction.
Camel.. doesn't it seem weird to you that the new court wizard acts like the old court wizard in a different body? Not to mention the strange knowing that you killed their former host. .
@Zachary Beckett didnt mannimarco the worm king, the only necromancer known to be the better of potema, know how to body swap. Theres a conspiracy there
Melaran says that there was a rumor that we are somehow involved with the death of Sybille, he doesn't "just knows" that we are somehow involved. Also, what makes you think he is acting like Sybille Stentor? I tried very hard to analyse his behaviour and Sybille's and I witness absolutely no similarity.
"In Skyrim during the late Third Era, there was an strong underground movement called the Hörme which believed Potema and her deposed son Uriel Septim III (Uriel Mantiarco) were the last of Tiber Septim's true blood and under that principle led raids against Imperial interests in the province."
This always seemed to me to be one of those things that BGS never finished, she probably had more proto quests surrounding her but they either didn't get time or cut the content, from the looks of it, Bethesda planned the possibility to have you kill her, So I will guess she had something to do Wolf Queen resurrection and she was probably the initiator. Its also 100% positive they all knew deep down she was a vampire, but overlooked it as she was to great a boon to the defense to the capital for them to justify removal of her.
Its funny to me how before dawnguard it was easy to overlook that she was a vampire, but after dawnguard her GIANT GLOWING EYES OF DOOM give it away immediately.
I remember, I noticed her weird "vampire face" the first time I saw her, then I looked at her eyes. Even before Dawnguard, the eyes of vampires were different.
Can the player kill her? (Without mods)
Franco S. Lourençon i think so
@@metalyuncle3106 no
CatholicGamer Squad are you replying to me
She sensed nothing in the area? Don't forget that across the street from the cave a different necromancer is raising an undead army in Meridia's old temple
zofotoziggy also theres a falmer cave nearby i think, and (if youre in the dawnguard questline) a vampire ambush about to happen.
@Mad Max Rockatansky Yeah - nothing could be a bigger misstep than to assume deliberate agency from what's really normal human forgetfulness. Or even more likely, one hand not knowing what the other's up to, the person or people behind that dialogue not realizing what's been slated in terms of quests or dungeons in that area - or vice versa, the folks behind the local dungeons not realizing what else has been written previously - it's a one-off line so it'd be easy to overlook. Additionally, the world of the Elder Scrolls is reduced in terms of distance "in the area" could mean only the locality of the cave, not what's next to it in the region.
Bigger blunder: _HOW DOES A _*_VAMPIRE_*_ GO TO SLEEP _*_IN A SUNLIT ROOM?!_*
@@soundgardener4940 Magic. How does Serana's cleavage protect her from sunlight? Magic.
@@TaikaJamppa
Just because she doesn't want to wear a ring………...
"I've never seen her eat a thing." Meanwhile in her idle animations she's gnoshing on a half loaf of bread.
Is she? the bread is always the same size and she just puts it near her mouth never taking a bite, if you want to take that logic route.
Oh what the heck, Jay Naylor in the comment section of a Skyrim video.. small world, innit? I like your work!
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that
She’s just fond of the smell of bread, that’s all.
I don't know if "gnoshing" is a real word, but I like it
It's pretty clear this was meant to be a bigger quest chain, but had to be cut
Isn't there cut content where Elisif gets assassinated? Maybe that's it.
Snip snip
That's pretty funny. Todd, we have a follow on quest about revealing Stentors connection to Patama. Just have her go to sleep the rest of the game.
Yeah I feel like some quests that could have been some of the best were cut
@@theprideofafrica1186 "It just works."
Have 800 hours on PC Skyrim, not once been inside the Solitude dungeon.
Naxellum try riften hall of dead, winter hold "jail", and a remote area in the rift with a dragon near iverstead. any body else got others?
are you saying you have 5 years of play time on skyrim or have had it for 5 years?
i know right
Lol
Haha, yeah, I only recently discovered that one dragon place, if it's the one close to the empire camp. Only because it's the first time I ever bothered doing the whole imperial legion questline.
>"She's never eaten a thing"
>Proceeds to show many shots of her enjoying refreshments
stop greentexting on youtube holy shit
gos shut the fuck up bitchy richy
no u
When?
Maybe the cook us just not very observant?
When you go to the Winterhold college for the first time and you get stopped by that high elf chick, she asks you what is the reason for visiting the college. If you say that you want to study Illusion magic to bend the will of others around you she will respond that illusion magic is very useful in the political realm *hint hint*
Angel Cortez well done
Sadly i didnt get a chance to say that, i was confronted by the teacher of Restoration Magic.
Well how did that happen? It's always been Faralda for me..
Fair enough. I thought it was referencing the mages guild (although I’ve not played any other elder scrolls, I understand they are involved in politics from references in Skyrim).
What do you think Trump's illusion level is?
'Stealing the life force of hundreds...' 'who hasn't done that'
*look at over thousand used soul gems* yeah... I agree
Worst part is when you start bunkering all your soulgems in a chest or some more ridiculous container like a barrel or a napsack xD such disrespect
@@EinFelsbrocken I keep them in me night stand
Sweats in Vampire
my inventory: full of black soul gems and dragon bones
yeah, what area a couple hundred souls here and there
*ME AFTER 6 YEARS OF PLAYING SKYRIM*
Camelworks:Is Sybille Stentor The TRUE Ruler Of Skyrim?
me: Who? Ah shit I have to replay it again.
You only played for 6, I have for 7 (months) you forgot to specify time
I'm starting over again too. That's the beauty of this game: you'll always find something new that pulls you back to it.
I was confused for a second but I realized that you posted that before he edited it
Alexandrewvice FUCK ME TOO
You got the game before it was released? What kind of bullshit is this.
Sybille needed those 11 herbs and spices to complete her own Solitude Fried Chicken. Mmm made from the suffering of man
Confirmation that wolfskull cave is actually the true location of the mythical atlantis-like lost civilization known as "flavortown"
Void salt chicken
@@schnoz2372 Void? Pathetic. Weak tongue. I'm white as fuck, and even I know that fire salts are the superior seasoning. Don't @ me. Its Fire for entrees, frost for deserts, and void for unlimited garlic soul-husks.
I heard she attacked the corporate HQ when she was turned down as the replacement for sybille sanders.
That is so funny LOL
From what I understand, the whole Wolf Queen quest has some unused dialogue in case you wipe out the cave before talking to Falk. In this dialogue, Sybille doesn't sound very pleased, suggesting that it actually released Potema.
"Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world."
That actually sheds some light - perhaps she knew what was going on in the cave and was aware that the ritual would actually fail (which is suggested by Potemas protests when necromancers try to bind her to their will). This is why she would not want anyone to intervene, as the problem would basically sort itself out.
Her distaste for other vampires is also logical - she FIT IN. Other vampires live like bandits, they are like plebs to her.
The whole sleep thing - I'd say it is a simple bug in this case.
Also - I don't think that Torygg was her thrall or was controlled in any real way - he is, after all in Sovngarde - I don't think a mere thrall of a vampire would be let in, especially if he was under vampiric influence presumably his whole life.
I don't think that dialogue is unused I feel like she insulted me after I did the quest normally. She was livid thst I allowed such a great threat to escape.
In the book "Immortal Blood" talks about an order of vampires in Cyrodil. While the order is not named they do get referred to as "Vampyrum Order."
The idea that Stbille Stentor as a member of that order is explored by another Skyrim TH-camr (Nate). Nate brings up strong evidence that Sybil's actions do align with the tenets of the Order.
Avoid daylight as a lifestyle
Make other doubt vampires are real.
Put yourself in places of power.
Sybille is evil, but the subtlety evil
@@gyyrad How is she evil though? If what was said was true then she didn't want Potema rising. Being a vampire doesn't automatically make you evil.
Realistically the Dragonborn can best be described as a Chaotic Good Vigilante.
Also being a Vampire DOES automatically make you an evil being esp. in the Elder Scrolls Universe. All Vampires are under Molag. But to survive they need to, at minimum, commit battery. This is often easier when paired with Breaking and Entering.
That being said most of the Aedra and Meridia have very specific things to say about the undead. Quite specific in fact. The aedra are considered the Good Gods Meridia is considered the "Good" Deadra Prince. So if they are in a position of good, those in opposition to them are Evil.
Perspectives on Vampirism are sourced by ALL vampiric media really but most acutely to the White Wolf Media - The World of Darkness: Vampire the Masqurade.
@@gyyrad Are Vampires really evil though? Yeah they are created by Molag Bol and most Vampires are indeed evil by the looks of it, but some of them are still humane like Serana.
watching this reminded me of how much I love Sybille. I never personally felt like she was evil as she always treats the dragonborn with relative politeness (considering most court wizards in Skyrim don't possess incredible social skills.) I see her as someone who enjoys the perks of vampirism but doesn't want to give up civilized life so she hides it, using the prisoners as cheap cattle.
One thing I would like to point out that I haven't seen mentioned: The journal of the vampire who discovers the redwater spring, Vulpin, mentions meeting a female vampire in the winking skeever. She tells Vulpin that she has a considerable reputation in Solitude and agrees to help him so long as he remains civil. Sounds like Stentor to me. Not really relevant to the potema discussion but interesting nonetheless.
What do you mean 'civil'???
Very niiice find by tha wae dude 😁🤘
What is significant at Redwater Spring that Vulpin discovered?
@@ItsDobbie The redwater spring is the important thing.
The redwater is magically cursed so that it becomes a highly addictive drug used to pacify people into becoming unknowing cattle for the vampires that live there.
If we're going by D&D standards, she seems very Lawful Neutral. She does seem to be doing plenty of good being the court wizard while also doing some rather...possibly unscrupulous things. She seems to just be selfish but also seems to apparently care about keeping Solitude safe, and cared about the High King greatly (though whether it was genuine or not is unclear). All in all this makes her fairly ambiguous and as such lands her pretty much in the middle alignment, with arguments easily made for both her just being an eccentric, scary bitch that actually cares for Solitude or a selfish, cunning vampire that is serving her own goals.
What I always thought was that Sybille's Vampirism was a closely guarded court secret; she was allowed to stay because she proved so useful. She may have an ulterior motive, but then why only feed on captives due for death and use her magic to add to the city's defense. I think Solitude comes first for her, regardless of who is on the throne.
Draken Garfinkel yeah having a secret vampire wetwork group would be insane if someone tried to evade and occupy
Feeding on prisoners, could help her to try to avoid suspicion. If she started killing/feeding on the people in the town, they might start to look for the murderer, and possibly look for a vampire, if the corpses were found drained of blood (like some people were found, after the other vampires nearby got them. I'm talking about the vampires that Sybille sent you to kill), and with their necks bitten.
+45akaColt
I'm fairly certain that Sybille was the one who drained them, and then simply put the blame on a nearby coven she knew of.
@@45akaColt That sentence got very confusing near thee end, can you, or should I say, could you, retype it please? Thanks 🤔😅😁👌🤗🤘✌️
Possibly keeping the place protected and intact for the return of said wolf queen. Really puts her in an interesting position and makes motive for certain interactions unclear.
With Ulfric's rebellion going on, the Forsworn humping around, Thalmor playing Spanish Inquisition, Volkihar Vampires in the north, a Werewolf in the south, basically all Daedric Princes having their hands in things, a Dragonborn dungeoneering across the province, a re-emerging Dark Brotherhood, Dragons terrorizing everything, the end of the world around the corner.
Yeah, there are other things to worry about than a civilized vampire as court mage.
Oh, and the Emperor has been assasinated.
Unless you kill the dark brotherhood
Oh and dont forget the evil first Dragonborn powered with the knowledge of a Daedric Prince
And there’s also the plague of giants sending people halfway across the Provence.
HappyBeezerStudios - by Lord_Mogul
I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition
@@mrscoldarrow nobody does
Why did the dawnguard DLC have to change the eyes? Anyone can tell just by looking at her that she is a vampire. Without the DLC the vampires were secretive. Anyone could be a vampire and without detect life or dead you would not know it. This is what makes vampires so interesting, their ability to deceive and infiltrate populations, not glowing red eyes.
but it makes vampires look more magic oriented, like they have to be proficient with illusion and actively deceive people
In the original, vampires have yellow eyes. As a Nord, that means she has to be a Vampire. I figured that out the moment I saw her.
Vahtacen see I just thought high elf when I saw her
she's a breton^
Not anyone can tell just by looking at her. The dragonborn can tell. We've got a dragon soul, after all. Some odd passive abilities wouldn't be unusual.
From my research, she is likely to be Quintilla, mother of the wolf queen. Quintilla was still in her prime when she was 80 years old x.x no historian can ascertain her death other than it happening in the year 3E 99. She was also a great sorceress who had amazing powers to see into the future (scrying). Curiously enough, she was also a breton and had a soul gem placed into either a ring or necklace, depending on which of the wolf queen's books you read, with the illusion spell "charm" enchanted on it. Notice that your reward for the quest is not only an illusion buff, but also a silver ruby necklace.
Throughout Potema's life, she has, on multiple accounts, stated that she has no skill in magic. However, she somehow manages to summon a huge army of undead, cementing her as one of the greatest necromancers in history?
My hypothesis is that Quintilla, being a great mage and seer, was eventually able to turn herself into a vampire and, after being found out, had to fake her death. Afterwards, she hid in the background of history while secretly helping her favored daughter, Potema. As the united front of all her brothers brought everyone from hammerfall to the imperium to eventually beat back Potema's relentless assault, she then began to resurrect the dead soldiers to do her bidding, rather than Potema. After Potema's death, her soul cursed the blue palace, refusing to rest until the dragonborn eventually completed the task. As for Quintilla, she had probably been spending centuries trying to find a way to put her daughter to rest. Becoming Court Wizard was simply a way to speed up her research, noted on how she forced the council of solitude to spend an enumerous amounts of money towards her experiments while receiving her scrying as an award. The summoning ritual was a good chance to bring potema into an ethereal form to then finally be laid to rest, making it undesirable for anyone to interrupt it. When Potema was finally put to rest, the reason for her living for so long had finally been completed and Quintilla, now cursed with immortality, could finally rest.
Stay woke
Ethan Elliot that is a finely made theory my friend. I too was wondering something along those lines.
Now, this is a believable theory!
or she was trying to revive her daughter & when her daughter was destroyed she lost the will to live '.' her goal seems to be hiding the ritual to allow it to succeed. if that's the case it can be assumed she was a very controlling mother as the revival ritual was also set up to control potema too.
see into the future? Wouldn't that mean that her scrying that area would have revealed the dragonborn's actions? If she knew what the dragonborn was going to do, I don't remember her personally doing anything to stop the dragonborn... the first *and* second time.
If she was protecting potema, she half-assed the job. She should have made sure no one sent anyone to that cave. Once the DB meddled the first time, that should have run alarm bells for her, and she would have perhaps tried to confront the DB directly. If she scryed ahead, perhaps she forsaw her defeat, and laying in bed was all she could do for now.
I'd still like to think she was not a complete bastard
"I found nothing interesting or out of the ordinary in her room"
*point of pivot is a human skull*
A human skull? at 22:38 to 22:54? I mean, it's one thing to call my girlfriend a horse-face, but another to legitimately confuse the two species...
@@clindseth 22:44 there is a human skull on the low table that's on the rug
@@anakacaswell9539 But almost every mage's room has a human skull.
All mages that knows atleast some conjuration magic possess skulls
memento mori, but i guess for a vampire it's a reminder that they conquered death
"I've never seen Sybille Stentor eat a thing"
27.25 - Openly eats bread.
Get shrekt Imagine she just chews it and very unsubtly spits it out but everyone is too scared to tell her they noticed.
@@NonApplicable1983 My guess is she doesn't like the chef's cooking, she misses dat good Breton spaghetti.
I think it must be NPC script cuz Bethesda just put all same script in all NPC and not aware the role of sybil (but that just my opinion tho)
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Emperor Pelagius the mad?
I thought not. It’s not a story the Thieve's Guild would tell you- except for Delvin.
I thought not. It is not a story the Greybeards would tell you.
Some would have considered his powers to be..unatural
;D I just love the ability of the entirety of Nerds United to mesh together fandoms in such a fashion.
Darth Dovahkiin approves.
@Jacob Underwood not from a stealth archer build
"She never eats anything."
Meanwhile, whilst casting the detect dead spell, she casually eats bread.
the chef is blind.
It's possible she's pantomiming to keep up appearances in the court or to throw off suspicion
@@LaDyLuCk2900 The bread never goes away.
@@vogonp4287 Exactly it's the same bit of bread every time
*Dragonborn walks into the blue palace*
**Instantly hears bread being munched on**
"I've never seen her eat anything" proceeds to pick up bread and eat it.
Badass Vamp.....human, human.
i didn't even realize but she's actually with a loaf of bread in her hand 50%of the time
gg
Lol
Maybe she doesn’t swallow
I believe she sends us to take care of some other vampires hidden in the dark because she truly despises their way of living her "condition". Like she said : « Filthy creatures, aren’t they ? Living in the darkness, like they do. So uncivilized. I prefer finery. »
Vampires who have been infiltrated Cyrodiil’s high society have a similar way of dealing with their kind. They watch for them, and control their numbers so they can remain undetected themselves. Like other kinds, vampires both share characteristics and vary much from one another.
Although she’s used her eloquence and magic to get herself to a powerful position, as far as Sybille’s influence goes, I don’t believe she is close to be the hidden ruler of Skyrim, no. Her love for Torygg as a boy then king seems truly sincere. But that doesn’t mean she didn’t influence him for her own purpose either.
The most interesting thing to me is her resting after Potema's ultimate defeat. This suggests indeed a powerful connection between the two, because it is such an unusual rest. Sleeping is usually not a peaceful rest for vampires. They all seem to experience awful nightmares that appear to be caused by nonother than the Daedra Vaermina. So, they don’t like to sleep. The fact that Sybille tries to convince the court to stay away from Potema’s cave and that she remains in such a deep sleep after her defeat makes me think it is more than an emotionnal link she shared with the Wolf Queen. I can very much picture Sybille being part of the Kingdom of Death Potema ruled for over ten years, centuries ago, and trying to bring her back. Her link to the queen remains enigmatic. I would suggest it is possible that through some necromantic magic Sybille owns a part of Potema's soul.
Personally I think its a tad more complicated than that. I've always found all of that odd, but saw it from a different view after playing through the Dawn Guard DLC. I think the wolf queen became a master vampire while she was alive, in order to cheat death of course. She did murder countless people when she was living. I think the vampires underneath Solitude and Sybille are/were vampires created by The Wolf queen. Hence the unseen connection.
Wilem Plank I believe she is with the tribe of vampires that run cyrodiil they tend to have a hand within the empire and blend in which would make sense seeing as how the dawnguard failed to find her
I recently read a book in Skyrim where a vampire hunter was asking a wiseman for the various types of vampires of Nirn. After every tale the hunter journied and hunted the said vampire types, allways returning triumphant. However after the wiseman told him of the Cyrodil high vampires, how they blend so well in the society and never to be seen or felt, the vampire hunter returned with empty hands only to discover that the wiseman was one from the very begining. Potema was of royal blood, born and raised in Cyrodil. If she had any vampiric connections, it will be them. So Sibil is most likely a cyrodilic vampire, all evidences, no matter how little and vague, points to them.
Stefan Stoyanov yeah that was the vampire you had to kill in oblivion to be cured your self i think.
Stefan Stoyanov Sybille Breton though not Imperial
Can you imagine if our character had a voice and when we killed the ritual master they were like "Looks like I put an end to thaaa...Oh shit she's flying away."
🤣😆🤣
the last time bethesda place a voice on the player character, people criticized it (fallout 4), saying it lost the whole "role playing" feel. Im okay with it tho.
I also want to point out that vampires seem to hate most other vampires. Vampires make small covens and usually kill others. The Volkahar quests bring this point home, most of their quests are 'retrieve artifact(s)' 'kill vampires' or 'kill dawnguard.' Once you've grabbed those artifacts and eliminated the dawnguard all that's really left is kill vampires.
Did she just talk shit about me ??!!
Elisif The Fair was this your account name before this video was uploaded?
who cares you will be replaced in a matter of months...
all hail the dragonborn true heir to the emperor
Pepsi Man the dragon born is technically not a propper mortal of Nirn. they have a dragon soul and dragons are immortal (unless killed and they have their soul absorbed) this could make it slightly unfair to have him as high king.
All hail the dragon born the slayer of alduin ,the destroyer of vampires , and the true high king of skyrim
"...or was she simply politically minded, who happened to not give a shit about anyone else, and who just happened to be a vampire..."
She should run for public office
mark brandenburg or she could eat him
I think she is OK.
She didn't indoctrinate Torygg while helping raising him. He grew to be a worthy, even if short-lived High king, because of Ulfric's treachery. She is cynical but loyal, and underwhelmed by Elisif.
technically Court wizard is an office
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Here's a little something that breaks the Potema theory. The sleeping thing is a bug and once you have the unofficial patch, it fixes it. In the creation kit, there was a schedule that she was supposed to follow, but never transferred correctly into the game and instead the sleep schedule bug was put in instead. And she is actually terrified of potema. Here is some cut dialogue found in the game files that occurs before Falk sends you the letter telling about potema and her return: Sybille- What did you do in Wolfskull cave?!" You could then reply by choosing one of the three options:
You- Who are you?
Sybille- "I'm Sybille Stentor, court mage of Solitude, and according to my scrying you've managed to unleash Potema herself!"
You- I stopped some Necromancers from summoning Potema.
Sybille- "You weren't nearly as successful as you think, fool. According to my scrying the Wolf Queen has returned."
You- I'm here to speak to Falk.
Sybille- "Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world."
the patch also made it possible to enhance the ebony blade wich is meant to be unforgeable.
Perhaps she was going to attempt to cover her own tracks by questioning you
Woooooh, duuuude 😶😯😮
@@dr.blockcraft6633 Cut dialogue is something tho mane and that's all I have ta sae 😁😅
@King And Queen Retype that in English bruh
“We have something of a vampire problem”
Yeah I’m looking at it
Or. She's good. She was around during Potema's rule, as a young mage, and set about combating Potema's vampiric minions after her death. After a few years of keeping them at bay, Sybille realized that she too would pass, and the vampires would be free to set in motion Potema's resurrection- so she intentionally contracted vampirism, to ensure she could finish the fight. But despite Sybille's best efforts, in magic, in the grooming of multiple kings, sending unwitting hit men to eradicate vampire dens, Potema's followers managed to pull everything together needed to bring her back. As a last ditch, she seizes the opportunity to send the Dragonborn after Potema. And when Potema and her ilk have all perished, Sybille finally sleeps.
Woooooh dude, that's a very very, interesting theory you've got there, what made you think of this/that🤔?😅
That's a great theory, not all vampires have to be considered evil
that makes no sense why would she denied anything going on at wolf skull cave... anyone who knew of potema and was good would of wanted to stop that not to mention the fact that vamps are enimes in there
Or maybe she didn't want to send anyone out in case of attack.
@@EternalGrey420 do you really think a group of necromancers strong enough to revive potema wouldnt have something in place to avoid scrying and prying eyes, i mean in previous games it was hinted that vampires can mask their presence from scry magic using illusion so why not necromancers that chill with vampires
I have a feeling she has been in the Royal Court of Solitude for decades. She knew High King Torygg when he was a child and obviously she was of a powerful position to overlook such a royal child. Only powerful people can actually interact with Royalty.
I believe she was active in Nord politics for hundreds of years. Torygg officially appointed her, maybe she was unofficially a mage/advisor for the High Kings.
Bacchus she everyone says she's a Nord but I have always thought she was an altmer because her skin looks gold
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Wait didn't the high elf who replaces her call her a Breton? Okay now I'm more confused than a homeless man under house arrest.
It was Torygg's father that appointed her
Notice that Melaran is a high elf. What is a very long time for a high elf? Altmer can live over a thousand years, a human lifespan would be nothing for them.
A vampire doesn't adhere to the vicissitudes of time, and so she can live as long as a Mer.
I think her views on vampires are both a cover-up for herself and that she detests those vampires who live in caves much like how other people in Skyrim hate bandits. Its essentially the same thing to her :o as both see their respective marauder-type groups as uncivilized and dirty. That the people that are a part of those groups can do better.
I assumed that the necromancer ritual had a jamming effect on scry magic, i mean it would make sense that if you are trying trying to resurrect the best necromancer behind mannimarco that you would do something to keep scrying and prying eyes blind.
Also the eternal sleep is a glitch that was partially fixed, in early versions of skyrim she slept all day except for court scenes due to incorrect values on her schedule, this was fixed in a patch but they missed the post potema cycle which reverted the values to their incorrect state when the quest was finished as all court members are reverted to standard schedules after that quest line. So basically its not that she is connected to potema, but that she has radiant ai issues.
She eats bread at 17:42! That chef needs his eyes checked.
Neil Potter hggh
Since the chef serves food at the palace, and Sybille is a part of the court (serving as a court wizard), she would be entitled to food (i.e. hot/cooked food), as part of her compensation, I think (which could be why the chef made note of not seeing her eat). It is possible that he has either never served her in the throne room, or if they all go to a dining area to eat (at least realistically. I don't know if Bethseda gave them an eating routine, or a realistic 1, that you would see nobles/royalty doing, where they could sit down at a table, like the ones in Whiterun's palace/place, and eat with silver dishes, and talk with others. Perhaps the Jarl in Solitude eats only bread with her hands. That would be funny and sad; if she did that everyday for instance), it is possible that she doesn't go there. The bread could have been attained via other means (i.e. bought at a shop, or taken off of a dish laying nearby), and perhaps she was eating it to look human. Can't the player character eat bread, if they are a vampire? Good job, seeing that she ate bread.
What if the bread is baked with BLOOD INSTEAD OF WATER?!
Neil Potter is it bread or... an illusion!?
Never trust a Chef
A couple of notes:
Sybille sleeping permanently after getting rid of the Wolf Queen is a bug, which is fixed in the unofficial patch. So that means nothing really.
There is deleted dialogue following The Wolf Queen Awakened where Sybille basically berates you for freeing the Wolf Queen, which she saw through her scrying. So my guess is that she didn't see anything initially because it was a bunch of necromancers who were just raising draugr but masking their actions. It's only when they tried to raise the Wolf Queen did it suddenly come under her radar, so to speak.
Is it really a bug, or is it the USLEEP team not realizing that it's intentional and thinking it's a bug?
Christian McGuire why would there be cut dialogue then
Skyrim NPC WARS then it's not a bug it was cut as in cut out of the game so that means that it most likely was not a bug but intentional so that she is a potema or a servent of hers
Kid with cancer, removing content doesn't mean your theory about her being a servant or potema herself is true. Sounds like the devs just had more planned for Sybille but cut it at the last minute, resulting in a bug with her AI behaviour that makes her sleep a lot. The cut dialogue shows that, it makes no sense for them to remove one line where she just reacts to something. Unless there are unfinished dialogue plans that go along with it that they decided to scrap. Shame though, it is kind of unrealistic for the court mage of solitude to not sense the wolf queens power when she was released. Even if they wanted to scrap any other plans they could have just left her line in there just as flavor text.
I think the sleep thing was intentional, make note that you said *Unofficial* patch
High-elven life spans can exceed 1000 years, there are high-elves in Skyrim which will remember Potema's reign.
Possibly, though not many high elves live in Skyrim, probably wouldn't have been living there that long continuously, or taken much interest in Skyrim politics.
@@troodon1096 I'm assuming Skyrim became a less hospitable place to High Elves once the Aldmeri Dominion got Talo worship outlawed. Imagine spending centuries in Skyrim, minding your own business, maybe doing good business as the local alchemist, raising a family of lil elflings - then the Aldmeri Dominion fuck everything up and your neighbors are looking at you like you were the one who made the decision to ban Talos worship.
It's actually very sad when you think about it. A high-elf family having to flee their neighbors because of a political decision made by a group thousands of miles away. "To remake the world in the nationalist image, the first step was to transform coexistence into conflict, with the hope that if things got bad enough all the “foreigners” would leave. The greatest enemies of any nationalist were not really the members of an opposing nation,
but the people who couldn’t understand why they were supposed to hate those who were different than themselves. Tragically, as the killings and reprisals mounted people had little choice but to declare themselves for one side or the other. Though the Poles and the Ukrainians would fight on, the real winner was nationalism as such." - 'Poland in the Modern World: Beyond Martyrdom', Brian Porter
She’s a Breton tho
RustyRayne Bretons are known as manmer meaning elf-man, which suggests that the blood of elves flows through the veins of the Bretons , giving them long life .
@@Kevin-sq1hh "Also they got big dicks" - A Breton
When she sends us on the quest it reminds me of when then count of skingrad sends us to kill vampires because they knew he was one and wanted to black mail him
Here is how I see it;
She was a patriot dedicated to the good of Solitude and by extension Skyrim. She raised the previous king to be a good king, or at least a king good for Solitude. She took a job where she could watch over him and the comings and goings of the court to ensure the safety of Solitude from threat of mismanagement and only screwed up in that she was out when the killing happened. She has no loyalty to the current incumbent on the throne but to the throne itself. Kings and queens ultimately come and go but so long as national stability is kept this is ultimately not a problem.
She does not feel kinship with other vampires. They are a threat to the security and correct orderly running of the nation and have to be removed. Sending guards into the cave would have been a waste of resources during a time of war as they would have been slaughtered. Stentor could not see a practical way of keeping The Wolf Queen off the throne but that would not have been an insurmountable problem, she could be directed and steered in useful directions. Stability would be maintained and if she didn't oppose it she could keep her job and mitigate any problems.
The job had recently become exhausting (vampires, dragons, undead queens and maybe the emotional exhaustion of someone she raised as a son being torn apart by a traitor whilst she was not there), her job conflicting with her nocturnal sleeping patterns, irregular meals; the experimental things were her trying to find a restorative potion for vampires to keep going. With the removal of the Wolf Queen and the other vampires and other imminent threats to national security (that she can possibly do anything about) she realizes that this is the only opportunity she might get to recuperate and just crashes out.
She is her own faction because nobody is in her faction. She was doing this well before any of the others.
That last bit threw me off but ok, what do you mean by/with the last thing you said bro/bruh??
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 every NPC is a part of a "faction", like merchants, hold guards. Kind of a game thing so guards don't kill each other? Idk. Just search for Factions on the UESP.
I think the wolf queen made her a vampire back during her rule. Her not liking other vampires might suggest she did not appreciate becoming a vampire and might actually be pulling strings behind the scenes for the past 500 years to keep the wolf queen at bay.
She cant be honest about it because people would kill her so this is her way of doing something good with what shes been cursed with. The hostility could just be from the plain ignorance of people that even though shes been doing this for so long no ones noticed the impact she has made (or may have) or she is frustrated with how clueless people are about the dangers shes preventing.
As for her going to sleep i think that relates to the wolf queen creating her. The reason she didnt want anyone going to the cave is because either her work will be undone and war will outbreak OR shes afraid if the mortals win she will still fall into a sleep since her life power stems from the corpse under solitude.
Just a thought
That could be. We have to keep in mind that those necromancers were trying to bind the wolf queen's soul. Those vampires... may very well be prisoners. Thralls of Sybille turned by her to use as guards. I'm going to put my bet on her being good and fighting against the evil nature of a vampire. She obviously forgoes feeding to the point where she becomes very irritable from lack of blood and she doesn't seem to prey on the innocent. Instead prisoners.
Or maybe she made the Wolf Queen
millgiass the vampires werent binding potema.....
Excellent hypothesis.
DISCLAIMER: I haven't played Skyrim, I just watch Skyrim videos for some perverse reason.
PS: In the interests of transparency, I should also add that I'm a cat; an _undead_ cat (nah for realz, tho).
Xev The wolf queen wasn't made...
"She'll be replaced in a matter of months", she says. Replaced by whom? Haafingar has no other legitimate candidate to the position of Jarl. She could speak of Ulfric claiming the position of High King, but more likely she knows that the ritual is underway and Potema will rise again soon to reclaim Haafingar as it's ruler.
There’s cut content Where you can assassinate elisif and erikur becomes jarl. Mods bring it back. High King Erikur? Gosh that would suck. Bryling seems like a better choice
“oh sh*#....she’s flying away” I lost it. 10 out of 10. Best. Line. Ever. 11:17
Sybille Stentor - Does she rule Skyrim? Is she good or evil?
Camelworks she seems not so evil
what mods did you use for the looks of solitude.
lol you had 420 gold
She's got vampire eyes!
Camelworks make more content pls great work man can't imagine how much work you did
I have no way to prove it, but I like to imagine it this way:
Sybille is Potema. Beore she died, she used all her remaining powers she created some sort of double, to keep living, keep a control over Solitude and come back one day. Notice the ghost of Potema, we can't tell her face, but we can with other ghosts...
So, maybe that's why she goes to sleep after being defeated, she lost the biggest part of herself and gave up because although Sybille might be powerful, she won't ever be like she was when she was Potema.
Again, no wat to prove it, but I find it cool this way.
That's awesome :D
Syd Hayran funny thing is I also made that kind of connection.
Syd Hayran plus the elf guy sortve starts to act like stentor after moving into her room,
That sounds a lot like Voldemort and his horcruxes. Two different lores, but it's entirely possible that magic like that exists in the Elder Scrolls universe as well. Heck, I'm pretty sure it does with the being partially soul trapped and Soul Cairn thing in Dawnguard.
Her sleeping permanently is a bug, which is fixed in the unofficial patch.
To be fair all of the prisons in Skyrim are pretty empty.
James Parker only prison not empty is riften
except markarth's cidhna mine (before the whole forsworn shenanigans)
James Parker 👏👏👏
She did seem to genuinely grief for High King's death... So vampire maybe, but i don't think she's evil, especially considering she only feeds on criminals
Have you ever done, or considered doing a Detective video about Rorikstead and its references to deadra worship?
he already did a video on that
SpoiledWolf please check the dates of the videos to realise that his comment was posted before the video was made .
Am I the only person who knew she was a vampire when first meeting her?
Shadow Strike I knew she was a vampire before Skyrim came out
Kory Datz I knew she was a vampire before Bethesda was made
She wasn't a vampire until Dawnguard was added so..
She recieved the glowing eyes, when Dawnguard came out. Never gave it much thoguht tho, even if her repulsion with vampires was suspicious from the get-go. I kinda think she was turned against her will, maybe got stolen by a coven of vampires, where she then learned destruction fire magic to burn the vampires, tho was not successful and sends you to finish them off.
I knew but I didnt notice the sleeping pattern thing.
The first time I met Sybille I was already a vampire. Naturally, when speaking to her I noticed the same orange glow in her eyes that Hert has. Later, when sneaking through the castle at night to loot and feed, I came upon her chamber. When I selected her however, there was no option to feed. From my experience, the only characters you cannot feed from are other vampires. Very mystery much detect.
Thats actually kinda confirming it more than the whole video xD
Shes been known to be a vampire since long before dawnguard came out, the detect life spell is very useful for such things.
In Dawnguard during the Bloodspring quest you can find the journal of a vampire in Redwater Den that alludes to him having a surprise meeting with a female vampire at the Winking Skeever, where she wasnt hostile to him at all, and they discussed the Bloodspring and she gives him a tip that it might be in the Rift. Just interesting that they specifically mentioned the Vampire was in a tavern in solitude, and then happens to meet a female vampire in the same city Sybille is the court wizard of
I knew she was a vampire, but I didn't suspect her connection to Potema. Interesting.
Speech 100
Could be that her character was there specifically for the potema quests. Once potema was dealt with her character cease to be relevant
Alignment:
lawful neutral, with a heavy leaning on lawful and a slight curve towards evil.
Hypothesis:
Sybille Stentor might have been a rather smart but altogether unnoticeable mage, trained in the thick veils of High Rock politicks (Yes, -icks), that ended up in the blue palace one way or another (political refugee, human bargaining chip, family machinations... choose your pick) and naturally came in contact with Potema. The wolf queen swiftly saw Sybille for what she was - a tool, waiting to be shaped and used as she sees fit. She transformed and bound Sybille, making her stronger than she ever could have been on her own, but utterly dependent on the latent power radiating from the immensely powerful necromant. While Sybilles combat prowess was bolstered through Potema, she proved most useful behind closed doors at court - which is why she was never suspected of having a strong affiliation with the queen and subsequently survived her downfall.
Now, while Sybille was a tool in Potemas hands, I doubt she was a willing one. As competent mage that probably picked up a trick or two over the years, she was able to contain and seal Potema below Solitude, retaining her own immortality as she was still dependent on her power. All her actions henceforth are acts of self-preservation. She turned a small number of people to be guards of the wolf queens seal and forbid them from leaving the catacombs, feeding them on a steady diet of lawbreakers as soon as she was in the position to do so (remember, she's lawful and wouldn't want to sacrifice the innocent if she doesn't have to). With her acumen in cloak-and-dagger politicks, she maintained her power at court to keep this all secret, using whatever tools are necessary.
All her actions can be explained by that dynamic. She wants the vampires to be gone because they draw attention to the symptoms of vampirism and may expose her in the process. She has obvious control over the court, but doesn't act with an own agenda except for maintaining her current level of influence. Potema doesn't want her to see the necromancers trying to resurrect her, and since Sybille draws her power from her, she was unable to scry the danger. After her botched resurrection, Potema is able to gain control over the vampires Sybille created, but she is too weak to repossess her former tool (yet). Or she is forced under Potemas control again, which is why she can't call for help against the danger lurking beneath Solitude.
Conclusion:
Sybille is desperately trying to maintain control and to keep being "alive", as she is mortified (heh) beyond belief at the prospect of death. Does she even have a soul left, a afterlife to speak of? Is she bound to serve Potema as slave in whatever beyond awaits her? Or worse, is she bound for Coldharbour, the realm of Molag Bal? I would do everything necessary to stay alive as well if I were in her position...
Interesting hypothesis. But I am bound to wonder, why does she enter a nearly permanent sleep instead of dying outright? Is she still able to live, but with her power and energy diminished to a bare minimum?
Another thing I noticed is Falk's behaviour. I think he knows.
When the court is petitioned but Sybille tries to discourage Elisif from sending men to sweep the cave (by saying that there's nothing going on there), instead of going with Stentor's plan to refuse to act, Falk quickly spins it around and makes sure an independent adventurer who anwers only to him picks up the work.
Then, when you return to the Blue Palace after interrupting the ritual, Falk is actually downstairs for the only time in the game, waiting for you by the stairs and telling you not to talk about what happened. He must have a good reason for not being by Elisif's side while court is in session, and I think that reason is Sybille Stentor. He doesn't want her in on the finer details of what is happening perhaps because he has an inkling of what's really going on.
Yes, Falk at least suspects something to be... off. I noticed that as well - although I think even as steward he is not in a position to severely threaten Sybilles position. Plus, as steward I suspect he may be one of the very few courtsmen that know of people having a way of "getting lost", "relocate" or "pursuing other endeavors" when Sybille gets unpleasant.
Regarding the everlasting sleep... That is about what I suspect. Sybille is still a capable mage, an expert and achieved teacher of destruction magic. Without the immense power of potema to keep her stable, her own capabilities are reduced, but sufficient to sustain herself... somewhat.
Comment: There is SOMETHING wrong with the Court Wizard position. I haven't talked to the high elf (forgot his name) much, but his line that was shown as new Court Mage sounded awfully similar to Miss Stentor's...
What do you mean, 🤔, please elaborate 🤔??
calcelmo?
She tends to like civiled vampires I noticed. A journal in Red Water Den talks of this vampire looking for the spring underneath the Den. He mentions going to Solitude and meeting someone of his kind that holds a position in the court and that as long as he acts civil, everything is cool. And then she points him of the direction of the spring.
Necromancer: We summon Potema!
Dragonborn: FOOL! You just activated my trap card! This will negate the summon of Potema and..........
Oh wait a minute, this is Skyrim not Yu-Gi-Oh..........
Nox Descious Its time to d~d~d~d~DUAL!!!
Necromancer: Potema! Attack Dragonborn directly and wipe him out!
Dragonborn: Activate Magic Cylinder!
Necromancer: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Oh look at that, you've activated my Alucard.
brian doyle *Uses Elemental fury and tears through the Necromancers like paper*
Threatening Roar would be a more fitting trap for the Dragonborn!
She's a workaholic who is so dedicated to her job, and trusts everyone else so little, that she took upon Vampirism to see that the job was done correctly, for as long as possible. That's the vibe I always got from her. Sure, she's mysterious, but she's also blunt, and utterly trustworthy.
Nah man, that honestly sounds stupid as hell
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodl6206 Some people are like that. I can I think of 5 I know of right off the bat. Maybe you will meet one, one day.
I have a feeling that Stentor in a way is Potema. Potema used her as a puppet, somehow stole her body and got close to the court of Solitude. She knew that the body would not last long so this is why she chose to become a vampire? By doing this she met a cult of vampires and necromancers which tried to resurrect her true body, once you kill her spirit she can no longer posses Stentor, which results in her resting eternally.
Just my own far fetched reasoning.
Best theory ever.
Ahh good point 😃
Cozarooni 💯💯💯💯💯
This was exactly where my mind went with his theory. I was waiting for him to shed light on it and he didn’t.
Another possibility is that she bound Potema to herself. Became a vampire so she could keep Potema at bay. The Ritual was to spread that binding amongst multiple necromancers and to ease the drain on Stentor. The reason she seems to sleep forever is because you actually helped relieve her of her duty which she has been actively doing for centuries. This would mean she's not evil and would give reason as to why the court "puts up" with her.
It was weird to me. The first time I met her I was like, "She's got fangs. Like big fangs. And glowing eyes. Is anyone going to talk about this?" Then I played those missions and went, "I guess she's more focused on studying and magic than being a vampire. That's tight."
I kinda wish I hadn’t lost my sense for curiosity when it comes to things like that. I mostly just take characters in games for what they claim or appear to be. Diving deeper too often ends up being a waste of time. Videos like this one make me think that maybe I’m wrong.
Reverse hypothesis: Sybille made sure that Potema STAYED dead.
Potema had an entire army of vampires, undead, and necromancers fighting under her in a war for power that lasted over 30 years... there's got to have been enough talent in there to resurrect her, should she die, and it would have been easy for her to set up such arrangements - promise of great reward, bla bla bla. Now, there are 2 possibilities here: 1) Sybille was the court wizard, and entrusted with Potemas resurrection. But she wanted this psychopath to stay dead, so she purposefully bound Potema to herself so that she could not be revived by Potemas more loyal followers, then turned into a vampire so she wouldn't quickly die and lose control over the Wolf Queen. Or, 2) she was an enemy solider/adventurer who interfered with Potema's revival and was hurt by it, causing her undeath and somehow linked her to Potema on a soul level.
When the quest begins, Sybille interferes with the investigation because she knows she risk being exposed, and that she herself would die were Potema to be completely destroyed. Perhaps she intended to intervene on her own accord. But she doesn't stop you from going into the catacombs, either... pretty odd for such a powerful character with a high stakes involved.
So when Potema is killed, Sybille accepts her fate and goes to sleep, perhaps forever, as the price to pay for peace in Solitude.
Hallowbreath sounds like the ending of MGS3 a forgotten Patriot
@@littleregg3164 😁😂🤣 Does it actually??
How are you so sure my Dude🤔??
Hallowbreath interesting theory
Or... there was a typo in the coding that caused the character to sleep forever when she was never intended to do so by the developers. :P
22:33 falk be like "YO MY BOYS HAVING A BIT OF A PRIVATE CONVERSATION?? K IMMA NPC ALL OVER YOU"
This was a really good investigation/deep dive into Sybille! I have always been interested in her but did not know there was so much dialogue about her, or that she goes to sleep forever after the Potema quests.
i live how the queen starts with a full legion with if you count the auxiliary then that would be around 10 000 soldiers in Roman terms at least and in the end she decides on a few extra guards.
"Haafingar's people will always be safe under my rule" 10,000 soldiers it is. Oh, what's that Falk, three is more reasonable? Eh, I guess the safety of Haafingar's people isn't all that important anyway.
exactly
Yeah, Elisif is known to overreact just a bit. She's not an experienced Jarl and wasn't trained to lead; she got the position by chance when Ulfric killed her husband. Still, her heart's in the right place, and she has the sense to listen to her advisors on matters she's not well experienced with.
She was fighting a heroic Revolutionary no matter how good an adversary she may or may not have been 3 guards not withstanding she was bound to lose and only wins because your plot armor beat his
Joshua Reynolds
Stormcloaks always win in my playthrough. I like to pretend the imperials are globalists.
I do feel bad for Toryyg. He was young and cute and brave. Unfortunate but his death was necessary. Ulfric had to start his rebellion. They are pathetic for trying to catch him.
Then killing Roggvir for letting him out, even though he committed no crime.
Two points you could've emphasised further are the prisoners and how she has seen jarls with plural come and go. The first, she clearly takes and possibly uses them for the ritual of summoning Potema. As it is stated that the blood will bind Potema once summoned. The second Potema, during her reign, summoned a plethora of undead, daedra, and you guessed it vampires. Sybille had seen multiple jarls come and go, indicating that she would've been around before High king Torygg. Possibly during the reign of Potema herself. Though a question wht wait so long if her plan was to summon Potema? Did the process require 500+ years or was she simply biding her time?
A side note when you fight Potema for the second time that defintely isn't her full power. As she raised legions of the undead enough to go to war with, enough to turn Solitude into the "land of the dead". During that fight she merely raised a handful of Dragur, a task the dragonborn can preform with the ritual stone. Had Potema been at her full strength i think deeming her mission as a side quest would be a waste.
severe underestimating of the dragonborn. he only defeats the first born of the chief aedra.
She might be a neutral agent looking out solely for the interests of the Empire. A human Empire.
Follow me on this.
What if she was attempting to bind the power Potema had in order to use it to create a grand army of the undead in an effort to stage a coup against the Dominion? A sovereign state that's taken over the Empire she's helped run for nearly five hundred years. It would make sense that to raise a cabal of necromancers in order to be powerful enough to bind Potema into a usable object that Sybille could use.
She wouldn't use vampires as they tend to be evil down to a tee - the rare exception being what's her name from the Dawnguard DLC. She has no real power over the first born courts of vampires or over the ones that gather in the dark places of the earth, on top of the hatred the people of Nirn have for Vamps. So that idea would be right out.
However, an army of the undead, their animated bodies used as cannon fodder beside the Stormcloaks - who would trip over themselves at a chance to kill off high elves by the drove - would gladly side with Sybille if she could back up her talk of raising legions of undead soldiers to stage said coup.
Sybille isn't really good or evil. She's just angry that the elves are fucking with her dollhouse.
Manoichan and you depending on how you play
Bring Potema back and bind Potema to Sybille's will, raise all the undead using power of the ritual stone overloaded with Potema's necromantic energy, undead will be raised from every cemetery in Skyrim, every dragon will come back to life, even if you took their soul, and Stormcloak/Imperial badasses will ride the dragons into the Summerset Isles. Miraak will come back and finally get to slap some shit, etc.
Dollhouse was a good show
I can totally see this. And "neutral" is kind of how I saw Sybille, especially since her affection for Torygg seems genuine. But I never once heard her comment about Elisif, the one where she says someone will replace her in a few months. That was new to me, and quite disturbing. But everything laid out in the video, and the spin you put on it is convincing. She just is doing what she can to preserve the Empire, even if that means binding Potema to her own will and raising an undead army and taking the fight to the Thalmor by herself.
The dialogue at 18:45 is fucking phenomenal. If all writing in Skyrim was like this the game would be incredible.
Notice how Sybiile says "a wolf in humans clothing" when dealing with a storyline that involves potema the *wolf*, and all the wolf references that were highlighted.
When does she say this 🤔??
Sybille Stentor is Tsundere for the player. "F-fine! I'll find some work for you, and a reward, but it's not because I like you or anything! I just want you to stop making that face! Baka!"
Venneroth I cringed throughout the entire time I read this.
Its Tsunade not tsundere
XD
i found the incel
Yeah you should fucking stop you filthy weeb trash
"Well what does THAT mean?? You can't just leave us hanging like that, Meloran, you fffffff-"
Everyone else: discovers she a vampire through her eyes
Me: playing on xboxone special edition w/mods and accidentally fks up a mod that glitches out vampires faces and discovers that way
*Vampire walks up to you*
"Aye, can a Loc come into your crib?"
Sybille was going to replace the Jarl with the wolf Queen after she was summoned again, that's why they wanted to bound her by blood to give her a physical form instead of the ghost one.
The moment she said there filthy creatures for living in the darkness I was like “She a vampire, people don’t like vampires because they kill...why would she hate them for living in caves?”
Because vampires have so much power over mortals, you’d think they’d have the decency to live with standards and not live in a cave like some kind of dirty werewolf.
@@urthofthenewsun8465 Are you kidding? Werewolves don't live in caves, they live in trailer parks just south of the Appalachians! :P
Along the theories of Sybille being alive alongside Potema, wouldn’t that mean she new Pelagius Septim III, Potema’s nephew, and wouldn’t that make the quest The Mind Of Madness potentially relevant?
..."i myself prefer to live in here"or whatever she said she basically straight up says it
I smell... *sniff* *sniff*... cut content.
Interesting Fact: Manimarco, King of Worms, the first Lich in all of Nirn, became a Lich in High Rock.
Omg she said “The tyranny of the sun is over!” 😂
Perhaps Poutima was channeling part of her will through Sybille, so when she was defeated, her body was temporarily exhausted from being a spirit vessel for so long
bug
I feel like a narrated character let's play with Camel of Skyrim would be so enjoyable to watch, I love listening to his epic readings :'D
I love the analysis but there are some cut lines that demonstrate the intent of the writers was not to have her aligned to Potenma. These can be found at the bottom of her page on UESP: en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Sybille_Stentor
What's probably more likely? A cabal of necromancers took adequate precautions to hide their efforts from "scrying." It can be done in D&D so it's within the realm of imagination here too.
Not to mention, just south of Wolf Skull Cave is the corrupted Temple of Meridia with a powerful necromancer at work and she doesn't seem to pick up on that either. Maybe she's just not as good at scrying as other people think and she's just blowing off this yokel from Dragonbridge because she thinks he is a dummy.
Or that Sybill's plan was to bind Potema and she is only upset that she is now free from control. Sybille seems to like controlling powerful figures.
she's a vampire? welp, time to dust off the crossbow
Here’s even more conformation-
In Venarus Vulpin’s journal ( a vampire seeking the Redwater spring ) he writes the following -
“I was able to obtain passage from Alinor to Solitude by way of ship.”
“ I ran across one of my own in the local tavern and feared at first that it might cause problems for me, but it turns out that she is well - positioned here in the city and has been happy to help if I keep a civil manner.”
Now who else could that possibly be? 🤔
So basically she's the Palpatine of Skyrim.
She is sooo like Kreia from KOTOR 2. Manipulations, manner of speaking, unclear motives, that awesome shady hood...
true
Am I the only one that notice naked and dead Sybile in the panning shot of her room? ~22:50
She had a big night
Theory: In order to be certain that the Wolf Queen was defeated, Sybille had herself cursed. The curse was a form of life link. So long as the Wolf Queen was able to come back, Sybille would live. Once the Wolf Queen was defeated for good, she would fall into eternal slumber and/or die. This way, should the Wolf Queen return, she would be around to help out in some capacity.
With that being said, Sybille would make an interesting returning or even player character in a future game
she didnt go to sleep when I defeated Potema. I think the sleeping thing was a glitch.
During my first modded playthrough I (with the help of the SACROSANCT Vamp overhaul) deliberately went out of my way to turn everyone inside the Blue Palace into a vampire,just because I thought it would be a very funny thing for Sybille to realize 50 years down the line, when every one around her stopped aging aswell
I knew she was a vamp, never thought to tie her to the old wolf queen...dame that's a good theory, Well done sir YEARS affter skyrim and its still has things we have yet to discover...
After you complete The Wolf Queen Awakens, Sybille will be found sleeping in her bed at all times.This issue has been addressed by version 1.2 of the Unofficial Skyrim Patch; she will now only sleep at the intended times. Considerable dialogue was written for Sybille to say during the beginning of The Wolf Queen Awakened. However, it cannot be heard in-game as the required quest stages to hear this dialogue are impossible to achieve. She would have revealed to you that Potema was resurrected if you talked to her before you talked to Falk. However, this dialogue may have been intentionally cut from the game as you could learn about Potema's return days before you could receive Falk's letter informing you to return to Solitude.
When you approached her, she would have asked: "What did you do in Wolfskull cave?!" You could then reply by choosing one of the three options:
Who are you?
"I'm Sybille Stentor, court mage of Solitude, and according to my scrying you've managed to unleash Potema herself!"
I stopped some Necromancers from summoning Potema.
"You weren't nearly as successful as you think, fool. According to my scrying the Wolf Queen has returned."
I'm here to speak to Falk.
"Listen you impudent cur. According to my scrying something happened at Wolfskull Cave that returned Potema to this world."
God man this series is absolutely amazing. I just wish there were more of these!
I'm not sure if she is evil per se, I'm thinking she is rather depressed. She is a long lived vampire thus cannot have any children of her own, she ended up raising Torygg like he was her own, and her grief about his death seems genuine (especially when she is asked about the murder itself). We don't know what she was like before Ulfric murdered Torygg, her irritability could be an expression of that grief. Sybille does seem to be a Tywin Lanister or Machiavellian politician, not exactly 'evil' by Tamriel standards (Molag Ball, and Mehrunes Dagon are capital 'E' vil). In the Elder Scrolls, I'm quite certain that vampires need humanoid blood, even Serana (who is not exactly evil) unrepentant, mentions that she needs it to live. We don't know what Sybille does to the prisoners, or even what said prisoners have done. She could be feeding off of prisoners destined for execution anyway. People in the court were bound to catch on to her machinations eventually, so she probably let's their imaginations run so that they will be too scared to question what she is doing (which could be more benign then anyone thinks). As for the Potema connection, there are lots of alternate theories we could make. For example, there were a great deal of decently powerful necromancers in Wolfskull cave. Their combined magic could have masked them from Sybille's scrying magic. As for her not believing Junius, neither does Falk. The sleeping behavior could be a bug, or lore wise, Potema being alive seemingly awakens a great deal of vampires, so the connection could have been something incidental--leaving Sybille feeling weak, like a host when being relieved of a parasite.
As I quote this brilliant line from Pisha, from "Vampire the masquerade bloodlines", "All things must consume life to avoid dying, you and I [She means the vampires] are no exception". So yes, vampires need blood, as much as we need food. And we never see armies of wolfs attacking cities to kill all of us murderers. Feeding on people does not make her evil. If "just" killing people makes one evil, then we are evil in the 5 first minutes of skyrim.
From the in game book [Vampires of the Iliac Bay, Part II] : "And I wouldn't have to kill humans every night, merely warm-blooded creatures. Orcs have a delicious, rich brothy blood; rats are a little sweet for the only meal of the night; werewolves are a real treat, almost decadent the tincture between human and beast. A real gourmet's delight."
So a vampire could feed from pig/cow blood. Feeding from humans is "evil".
Well, it actually depends the lore we are set in. And it kind of is like saying that humans can feed on vegetables so feeding on animals is evil. Althought some people do think that way.Except the vampire doesn't necessarily have to kill.
The lore of The Elder Scrolls is the same regardless of the game. Also, humans can feed on other humans too (it happened). So you can't compare human eating animals and vampires feeding on humans. If it was okay for vampires to eat humans, it would be okay for humans too. Especially considering that vampires are "cursed" humans. If a vampire do not kill the human it feeds on, that human will alert people that he was attacked by a vampire. And the victim could turn into a vampire too if not cured in the next 3 days. More vampires is not something a vampire would want as it would increase the numbers of victims and raise more awareness on its presence. (when I say humans, I mean elves/khajiits/argonians too)
I wasn't refering to Elder Scrolls lore, but the general lore of what a vampire is. A vampire can use his pretty seductive power or some mind control to erase the memory of the human he fed on. And I'm not really sure just feeding on a human makes him a vampire. And for once, I'll use Elder Scrolls exclusively. While a vampire in oblivion, you can feed on numerous sleeping people, you can not kill them, and they wont turn into vampires, neither will they alert people or even understand what you did to them in their sleep.
I just had dawngaurd and looked at her eyes and was like "hey it's a vampire"
Sybille: neutral evil
Falk: neutral good
I always like how the high elf said "SYBILLE STENTOR HAS A GRASP IN MAGICAL THEORY"
Pause at 20:43
So vampires have no feet?
The amount of shit everyone in Skyrim gives you..
the most annoying part is the kids, how dare they say I don't look tough, I could end them with 1 arrow.
Salazar Ravenclaw no you can't :) (except when modded)
Salazar Ravenclaw why is ur name Salazar but then ur last name is Ravenclaw
I like to pretend Rowena and Salazar fell in love and merged the bloodlines. forming a new house and crest aswell as animal, but that's my world and I wont trouble you with explaining it all.
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Salazar Ravenclaw do u watch supernatural?
I don't think her energies drained, she can still sell you stuff. I think she loses her will to live.
Justin Smith without anyone in her way, she is able to live out her dreaming of being a lazy merchant!
She probably got a nasty bug....... eh? eh?
😂 Why tho? N no u 😂, but seriously tho, why tho??
@@AngelRaivan8579-xh4fr 😂😁😁😂🤣 Gud 0ne
What a video! Thanks for the indepth look on Sybille, I've always taken her for a someone who just says what everyone is thinking like many people I know. Not once did I ever consider her to be evil and this video has definitely got me thinking.
Apparently the sleeping thing is a bug. Also there is unused dialogue, where Sybille (after "The Wolf Queen Awakened" is completed) asks the Dragonborn what he did in Wolfskull cave and tells him that she sensed that the Wolf Queen has been awakened, which she seems to oppose. So she definetely is a shady character but she seems to follow her own agenda. She also is her own faction.
Camel.. doesn't it seem weird to you that the new court wizard acts like the old court wizard in a different body? Not to mention the strange knowing that you killed their former host. .
HIgh elves are always snooty. The ones running The Radient Raiment even more so.
@Zachary Beckett didnt mannimarco the worm king, the only necromancer known to be the better of potema, know how to body swap. Theres a conspiracy there
Melaran says that there was a rumor that we are somehow involved with the death of Sybille, he doesn't "just knows" that we are somehow involved. Also, what makes you think he is acting like Sybille Stentor? I tried very hard to analyse his behaviour and Sybille's and I witness absolutely no similarity.
@@michaelwautraets7126 Hey! That's my wife you're talking about!
Oh, you mean Endaarie, my sister in law. Yes, she's not a people person.
"In Skyrim during the late Third Era, there was an strong underground movement called the Hörme which believed Potema and her deposed son Uriel Septim III (Uriel Mantiarco) were the last of Tiber Septim's true blood and under that principle led raids against Imperial interests in the province."
This always seemed to me to be one of those things that BGS never finished, she probably had more proto quests surrounding her but they either didn't get time or cut the content, from the looks of it, Bethesda planned the possibility to have you kill her, So I will guess she had something to do Wolf Queen resurrection and she was probably the initiator.
Its also 100% positive they all knew deep down she was a vampire, but overlooked it as she was to great a boon to the defense to the capital for them to justify removal of her.