Texas Rangers vs. Comanche Raiders : The Battle of Little Creek
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- In the earliest days of the Texas frontier, a group of Texas Rangers leave Fort Smith to track down a party of Comanche who had stolen a large number of horses on the Colorado River. Many of them would never return.
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I was born in Hondo, 40 miles west of San Antonio. I grew up hearing tales of the early settlers, some of my relatives had buildings on their property that were built in the mid 1800's. My cousin used to find flint arrowheads on the hill at the rear of my grandfather's farm. There was a stagecoach hotel/relay station station on the west side of the Verde Creek, midway between my grandfathers farm in Quihi and Hondo. It has has been partly restored, refurbished and turned into a beautiful home.
I love your unvarnished stories of unvarnished times.
Great video! Never heard of this battle, they were extremely lucky to survive, most of the early Texas ranger companies went searching for Comanches and never came back.
Listening to your stories full of details almost puts the listener there.
Absolutely fantastic! I stumbled upon one of your videos a week or so ago, and really love the presentation, the stories are captivating. Such an interesting topic. I would go so far as to say I enjoyed your channel more then any other here on TH-cam. Ive been on here for many years. Thank you so much for sharing the history.
Well spoken sir!
I look forward to your videos all the time mate not from America but grew up watching aul westerns with my granda and great uncle best memories wish them were alive today to see videos like this much love mate
Was confused that they left Ft Smith (now the name of a fort in Arkansas) near Waco and went up the Colorado River. But upon further research I discovered that a fort called Little Fort was also called Fort Smith in 1837, and what is now the Brazos river was then called the Colorado) and the current day Colorado river was then called the Brazos. The things you learn when you try to pay attention.
We had to do the same thing in researching this! 😂🙏🏻
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This channel has been a much needed enjoyment. Appreciate you.
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Just discovered this channel and its amazing. Its really incredible how brutal and vicious life was. Good job 👍🏼
Much obliged men, I enjoyed and liked as always! You put it right with the roots of the Comanche and their likes for torture... The six shooter closed the gap in advantage of the Rangers not long later. Love the way you take the pictures of Dead Man's Walk out of the movie based on the novel by Larry McMurtry famous not only for the 3 Volume of Lonesome Dove. God's Blessing from Northern Germany and the russian kassaks were always a match for the Nemen'noa. Love Ludwig
The narrator seemed to think there is a better tactical movement than moving an outnumbered force behind cover . That was exactly what the rangers did , and if they had
not done it , none of them would have survived...in my opinion.
Love your channel.
Great stuff. Felix McCluskey was one of the survivors. Ain't that life ? If you are wonder what become of him he lated got himself killed in a brawl ?
I'm no Commanche Chief, but I think my wife's hooha has been compromised
😂😂😂
If your best friend agrees, it's time to move.
I think that's another story, for another time....😌
Think your wifes hooha isnt of the same type as the Chiefs
The word he said is "puha"
Good medicine or spiritual power
Yet another excellent video 👏👏👏 Thank you 👍
Always excellent. My favorite Wild West stories. Listening in Berlin / Germany. Wild East... ;-)
Man you’re a great story teller
Thanks love you’re channel.
I think the invention of repeating weapons were the break through for the Rangers.
Texas Rangers. A group that has one hell of a legend.
Love your videos, your narration is fantastic. Shout out from Australia 👍
Thank you! We love Australia!
Hey man found your channel a couple days ago it’s great
Thank you!
Brave men sacrifice lives for lessons learned. They kept coming on.
these were the days where men who were real men were proud and the women very grateful , 😄
@@steveclark5357 ah, a moron who needs to fit history into his emotional needs
@@snowdroog1 then you shall do well my son because you heed your words, fair the well ijit
The rangers were foolhardy to think they could overcome such overwhelming numbers. They did have guts.that technology, unfortunately,was decades away
I’ve found you when you uploaded the council house fight video, always enjoy the videos
Thanks for coming along for the ride! We've got big things in store!
It helped the Rangers a helluva lot when they could trade in the long barreled flintlocks for revolvers. Even though the first revolvers were cap and ball, they had 6 rounds of fire power. And could then exchange a loaded cylinder for the expended one. In the meantime, a Comanche could keep a steady stream of arrows inbound.
What the Rangers really needed was something that was belt fed, tripod mounted, and water cooled.
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The first true revolver was a Colt Paterson and was only a 5 shot .36 caliber pistol. It wasn't until Sam Colt talked to Sam Walker after this particular fight that the design was changed to a 6 shot .44 cal.
Great recollections of historical events. Growing up mostly in Oklahoma, I have always been sympathetic towards indians, having known several from school and the Concho Cheyenne Arapahoe Reservation just a few miles out of town. After reading the Empire Of The Summer Moon recently, I have to say that my feelings are altered. The Comanche were a stunningly vicious and savage tribe, and their treatment of other indians and captives of many races was loathsome. This type of savagery was not exclusive to the Comanache, however, and my opinion of indians, of that era, has changed . I do greatly admire their familial and spiritual way of life though and respect their traditions to this day. Keep the stories coming !
same trajectory as mine
Good stuff! Thanks!
Excellent video. Very well narrated and informative. What movie/TV show are those clips from? It looks like a good one.
Great content! I appreciate all the work you put into this! What movie/tv show clips were you playing in this video?
These guys exemplified a type of courage that is rare today. Imagine telling these guys to wear a mask to the local store. Or…telling them they couldn’t go to church. Worse yet telling them some young man who believed himself a girl would be changing in their daughter’s locker room. Some one would die, and it wouldn’t be a Texas Ranger.🤠
Imagine telling them you were removing books from the town library (had they had one) because you didn't like the content. Or that you couldn't fight the Indian because of your bone spurs. It was a time when the leaders often lost their own sons in battle. Today, the guys who start the wars just have their boys at home counting the money. Of course, they go to church and pretend to believe because that fools an awful lot of idiots.
The Comanche were a great people who deserve respect when being spoken of.
Is it just me, or are the pictures screened out? Like does anyone else have the issue where the pictures aren't full screen?
An interesting skirmish. The Comanche kinda remind me of the Assyrians. A group that was often pushed around, shown little to no mercy, that in turn became militaristic and without mercy themselves. The violence does not sound appealing, but I suppose one could point out what happened to the much more friendly tribes of California to see what happened when one lacked it.
Nope its not just you. I just have to zoom in on the smaller ones to see them better, while using my phone anyway. Dont know if It'd be the same issue if I were to switch to the tablet etc ?? Think the gold & settlements in California had much more to do with it than them being "friendly". Look at the Navajo, they were a "more friendly" tribe but werent located where a gold rush happened to take place at & know there is a large population of them in New Mexico still today. And the Comanche being a more agressive/violent bunch didnt help them out all that much because that just gave the settlers, Rangers etc in Tx more "reason" to be agressive towards them. Of course I know thats a very simplified version/take on things but do think location was a bigger factor when it comes down to it
@@kristiskinner8542 I'm using a laptop so perhaps not. Still a fantastic video and story. Perhaps better to have the video in the background while looking at something else
Whoever is writing or reading this channel is definitely a fan of the fallout storyteller TH-cam channel 😀
For some reason the screen picture was very tiny? It was like looking through a letterbox !
What is that opening script from? It mentions smoke from roasting coffee beans. I’ve been looking for an account of early roasting.
The biggest aid to the Rangers and what turned the tide of war was the adoption of the Colt's revolver. "They fired their guns so we rushed them. They then shot some more. We broke and ran." - paraphrase A Comanche
The history writers writing about all the different tribes would pick a favorite and write about how that group was by far the fiercest tribe in all of North America. The Kickapoo are often written about in that way (among many others). You should do an episode about how the Absentee Kickapoo "illegally" left their new KS/NE reservation on their way to Mexico to live, encountered the Comanche in TX and sent them packing. I think in the 1840s.
That would be great to learn. I agree about the fiercest. Though the Comanche remind me of the Chihuahua breed of dogs with their small frame but fierce attitude. I oft wonder if the Comanche were the best horsemen because they had been abused before the Spaniards arrived (attitude) and their small stature was to their advantage once they gained equestrian warfare skills. Where did you learn about that Kickapoo encounter?
@@HuangXingQing Lol I have read that the Lakota were the best horsemen or whoever else. I just think at the end of the day there is no magic. I'm sure Warrior societies yieldid some great fighters but in the end we're all just regular human beings. People want to write about The Vikings or the ancient ancient Celtic Warriors or the samurai As being somehow better than mere human beings in fighting. But take a trip to Norway and you're looking at The Vikings. Just regular people
Anyway I read about the Kickapoo incident online.It was An article written quite some time agoIt's decades ago and I think I was researching how some of the Kickapoo ended up in Mexico.
Guess it depends on where you are. Im in Montana and the Blackfeet and Blood tribes are spoken of as the best and fiercest warriors. They were definitely feared by other tribes. The Osage are spoken of in the same way
That's because they were drinking Kickapoo Joy Juice.
@@rdwwdr3520 I agree we're all the same species now but disagree with respect with specific skills in a given aeon. Mongolians were once excellent mounted warriors but look at them today. Comanches? Same, same. Technology and numbers did them in. I've never heard Lakota were the best but only began reading native history about a decade ago (in depth). I wonder if my having grown up in the middle of the Comancheria unduly biases me. Or perhaps since they controlled the last (?) region holding off the plains settlement by Euros they get more attention? Or their territory was the largest (?) in the western united States?
Great story thank you
I am grateful for these stories of history. My home was built in 1853. These historic stories were happening upon the same ground. The only thing to be feared now, really are snakes. such as rattlesnakes and copperheads. The woods now are tranquil and at peace. I am sorrowful for all the bloodshed for all parties, but am grateful the war is over.
If I had been there I would have done something to stop this from happening. If possible. Thank you 💛 for this captivating story.
What a great channel. very well done 🤠👍
Thank you kindly!
Love this channel
Well, they had to learn, and that is usually done the hard way. Lessons learned that way, however, have a habit of sticking. Once the Rangers got more experienced and were better armed, the story was often different.
After their defeat and internment in Indian Territory a band of Comanche left and went raiding in Texas. When encircled by the US Cavalry the Captain pointed out to the Comanches they had violated their treaty with the United States. The Comanches replied they still had a treaty with the US but had no treaty with Texas and still considered Texans as the enemy.
Can't watch it.
If it's just "still photos" with narration, my Chrome Cast freezes up.
Very frustrating
Once the Rangers got a 5shot pistol, the tide turned......
Thank you
War is hell.
Personally I’m for team Wagon Burners.
Good video. The scenes in it were from what movie?
From what movie are the scenes?
I believe they are from Dead Man's Walk which is available to watch on TH-cam.
The Comanchees' level of violence was completely tasteless.
There's nothing soft on the new frontier pioneer life and the clash between two different cultures. What glorious times!
Anyone know the movie that the clips in this video are from?
wish these were hour longer!
May i ask, which movie is playing as a background.. it looks interesting, but i just don't recognise it?
At 4:50 you mention the Cherokee and the k’iche. Is this a different k’iche native to Guatemala? Because that’s a wild journey to have. I’m going to assume it’s a different k’iche(in Spanish Quiché)
NeverMind I found them. Their group is spelled Keechy and from the Texas plains and that
How many arrows did the Comanche carry?
Binge listening 🎧
Imagine how beautiful it was on a cool fall day at that place on earth at that place in time. Of course it could also be deadly…wouldn’t want to be out there with a wife and daughter.
I am glad that the narrator mentions that the Comanche were displaced in the north and then came to Texas and displaced other tribes. All the natives were originally from Asia and crossed into the North American continent. They wondered about conducting warfare, taking slaves, and sometimes exterminating entire tribes. Obviously once someone was vanquished, their territory was occupied. I am so tired of hearing that the Europeans took this from the Mexicans or that from the Indian. Everybody, took everything, from everyone at some point in time in history.
Neat! I’ve stayed a night in the fort smith jail!
great story, the rangers were brave, my grandfather was born in comanche county, tx and knew farmers who had survived attacks by indian war parties operating out of ok indian territory
All the clips are from the 3 part mini series DEAD MANS WALK THE prequel to LONESOME DOVE !!!
GREAT STORY !!!
Comanche Moon is after DEAD MANS WALK !!!!
GREAT SERIES !!!
The Comanche were protecting their territory, families and way of life. I would expect nothing less than total war with zero rules in that situation. I would do the same.
in that milieu, they got what they gave. except the migrants were not so eager to slaughter babies.
Sounds like it wasn’t Comanche land anymore than it was anyone else’s huh? The Caddo were in East Texas, the Spanish, French, and I’m sorry Mexico, but Mexicans didn’t settle west past the Edwards Plateau and Llano Uplift because settlers had to do exactly that… “settle,” before cities could blossom.
Thus the newly independent Mexico needed settlers to settle what they saw as a literal wasteland as a buffer to the French since we can all claim we own Mars but unless I have settlers and a military to defend my borders it’s just as much the next person’s.
So no, the Texans didn’t “steal” Texas nor the rest of the Southwest. After Santa Ana’s defeat the loser of a war doesn’t get to dictate terms, so the Treaty of Hidalgo stands. The Río Grande, which makes sense, it’s a perfect border river, NOT the Neueces.
But then again we run into the problem, unless Mexico had settlers and a military to defend them and the territory it’s Texas. So after raid upon raid and after Texas is grafted into Union the US had no time for this nonsense and sent Soldiers to the border and said, here we are.
The Mexicans open fire and cross into Texas, enter the United States. This was dumb, so dumb that today we believe our teachers and Hollywood that the US was being belligerent, but the US sacks Mexico City and gives it back only taking the land Mexico hadn’t settled anyways.
Which comes full circle. Mexicans are crossing our border and causing chaos and terror in towns like mine all because they don’t know at all how the West was settled.
The French and Russia both sold Louisiana and Alaska for the exact reason Mexico should have sold the southwest, bc Mexico could never hold on to it because they wouldn’t settle it because no one wanted to be slaughtered by the Comanche or Apache. But the American settlers earned their land with the blood of their children and wives.
It was fight or die. I have no doubt of The bravery of these men to have put themselves in such a predicament in the first place because they had a purpose. If I had a choice I would rather be shot with arrows then to be burned alive with fire. Still these men were rough rugged men, and I don't think they knew the meaning of quit.
"Tortured under the looming Texas sky." Was that supposed to be poetic or something? Fear porn is a powerful tool
Descriptive.
@@historyattheokcorral tacky af
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Comanche Indians or kichi Indians? With all due respect how in the hell were the Texas Rangers supposed to tell the difference between the two respected tribes? Every Native American tribe occupying the general area at the time probably looked the same to the Texas Rangers which made social exchange probably quite difficult.
Could you make the video any smaller?
the indian style of fighting was always to attack with a much larger force, when they were out numbered and at a disadvantage they fled, big war parties attacking settler families, was the nor. and the cherokees werent the anglo`s friends either. cherokee did plenty of murdering and robbing too, and allied themselves with the mexican army during their invasion to commit the genocide of the anglos in texas.
When your warfare is so bad, that even the Apache will join with the Texans to fight you, you've gone too far.
Can't you downsize
The Pictures a little more?
Why don't you make the pictures a little smaller that way I don't have to look at them
You got it.
Comanche were the Lords of the Plains until the White Eyes developed breech loaded rifles.
The repeating rifle and better tactics doomed the engines
Pictures too small.
Your picture is way to small makes it bigger and you will have a good channel
it was a mistake to divide the ranger force. in the early days, the indigenous forces always heavily outnumber the americans, and usually had the advantage of fighting on familiar terrain, too. its the same mistake that custer made at the little big horn
emasculated in the literal term sounds very well bad, damn
it does, and I don't even know what emasculated means.
@@diegosoares1281 it means to cut off someones balls and penis
@@diegosoares1281 It means to take one's manhood from him...I will let your brain make that connection
and check ya boots for SNAKES!
Did he say "Texyans"?
That's how it was pronounced at the time.
The way the tales praise the Indians' dexterity on horseback is something that confuses me a lot. Especially when compared to the Euro-Americans, who come from peoples who for thousands of years dealt with horses, studied them, trained them and wrote detailed books about riding horses. It also doesn't help that there are no famous Native Americans in horse training these days. That is, how can we compare more than two thousand years vs just 100 years riding?
If someone stole your Land What would you DO??
Comanches also stole the land, so whose land was it?
@@bwm3013 LOL! The idiot has no reply to that one. Send him scurrying back to the hole where he belongs.
@Mike Arnold No King Had Any Claim to the USA As it was Native Land for 10's of thousands of years! Just Saying, The Indians were Ripped OFF! & the Attitude was if we can't kill them all , we'll starved them in to assimilation. Not very CHRISTIAN!
Everyone "stole" the land. It's called war. Various tribes controlled regions until pushed out by other tribes. And then the white tribe pushed them out to finish the deal.
It is sad that they couldn't continue their way of life, but inevitable.
Brave buggers
The Comanche fought like the
Japanese.- no prisoners, no mercy.
I find no fault with the Comanche
They loved killing and they loved their Land my
Both sides are justified in their use of violence, it was war, survival of the fittest, it's sad, harsh and unheard of by our standards.
Brave Rangers. Someone had to stand up to these murderous, merciless demons. Typically the Rangers were outnumbered. 18 against 150 was about average most of the time. It took about 50 years for the Rangers & military to take them out permanently. After the civil war ended they really got down to it. Some Indian tribes I respect, but not the Comanche. Even the other Indian tribes hated the vile, murderous, sadistic, butcher loving Comanches who slaughtered and tortured people and took great joy in it.
Rangers foolhardy. Comanche vicious and bloodthirsty.
I hate when your hoo-ha gets compromised🤪
I’d like to have a shotgun at these close quarter fights…
Smoke and manure,hehe, i live with those smells for 70 years now,I'm sure they are OK with that ❤
All Indian tribes hated the commanchees
Premodern Wagner Group style (unofficial) military leadership for the Texans
Ok, ten arrows a minute. On horseback. With accuracy. At full speed. Whoever wrote this has: 1). Never ridden a horse. 2) Never ridden a horse at full speed 3) Never shot an arrow. 4) never shot 10 arrows in a minute.
Whoever wrote this comment has never been around a horse, bow or read anything about the archery practices of everyone from the Mongols to Comanche. 🤷🏼♂️
@@mikearnold7982 I agree. It was their lifestyle. every young Comanche boy practiced hours per day for years earning dad&uncle approval.
They’ve banned the name “ redskins”. Shld probably ban the Texas Ranger too
@@mikearnold7982 And ford will have to rename their reliable little trucks.
the colorado river is west of the continental divide!
where are getting your information?
one can just check geography
colorado river is far, far away from texas (and anywhere else where comanche roamed, i think)
You sir are a humbug
@@blueliesmatter2
ok
_my error,_ then
i wondered (and should have looked it up) but could not imagine it
i guess texas has everything
thanks for the correction
"Colorado" is a Spanish word that translates to "ruddy" or "red colored," which used to be an accurate description of the larger, more famous and westerly Colorado River before the dams strained all the silt out of it. The smaller Colorado River that runs through Austin, TX still retains its brownish-reddish/muddy color, but no more so than any other river in Texas. Why the Spaniards picked that particular Texas river for the official "colorado" appellation I have no idea, but there are indeed two Colorado Rivers in the US, and at least one that I can think of in South America.
Not only does Texas have its own Colorado River, but it has two Red Rivers that also take their name from the reddish silt from West Texas. There is the big Red River on the Oklahoma and Arkansas borders, but there is another Red River known as the Red River Fork of the Colorado. It is the largest tributary of the smaller Colorado and supplies the reddish color due its silt content.
Ugh. Heap tiny screen.