@Barton Farley yeah theres been massive changes through the decades but but my point is, there's really no difference in each era's great players, they're simply the best golfers of their respective era's. I don't think one or the other had more talented, skilled or better players.
What a great final in what was a terrific end of season tournament. We used to enjoy the BBC blanket coverage in the days when they actually had live top class golf on air. Best commentators like Peter Allis and top presenters such has Harry Carpenter. As you have seen all the top players competed in the World match play at Wentworth. Fast forward to nowadays 😢
Trevino was, is, a fantastic golfer. Incredible. Amazing. I could go on and on. The drives mostly in the fairway, irons mostly at the pin and usually close. Chip shots going in most of the time. And putts dropping from all over the green. All this from a guy who would shine the shoes in the clubhouse and cut the grass by the greens who would practice on a makeshift course in the back. Practice until his hands bled. Came up with a style that worked for him and never gave up. Mucho respect Lee Buck. Mucho respect.
I agree he's one of the best ball (and consistent) strikers in history but a little overkill on the chipping and putting 😉 his story is amazing though.
What a match. Trevino was a s tough an opponent as Jack ever had, with the possible exception of Tom Watson. Trevino winning 6 majors in the Nicklaus era was quite an accomplishment.
Two of the greats of golf....not only in playing the game, but also in living lives they can be proud of. Seems like much of that has been lost by everyone today.
The most underrated part of Trevino is his honesty. It is damn hard to be funny, AND be honest. And he is sneaky humble. I am in shock to find out in another recent interview, that Trevino was asked to join a world league or something in 1969, and refused. It might have been lucrative for him etc...but he said The PGA threatened to take away his teaching card. He said he worked for 4 years to get this card, and if everything started falling off the cliff in his playing, he could still teach and make a living. This is AFTER winning the US Open and a PGA Tournament in Hawaii. You talk about a man that appreciates his fortunes, and values everything that has been offered to him. He just said this: I could pick up range balls, I could give lessons etc...He values everything.... Including the ability to make a living as a teacher.
Trevino went from being discharged from the Marines in 1960 at 21 after 4 years of service having never had a golf lesson in his life to playing his first U.S. Open at Olympic CC in 1966 and finishing in 54th place to then finishing 5th in the 1967 U.S. Open at Baltusrol CC to winning the 1968 U.S. Open at Oak Hill CC all the while never having had a golf lesson in his life. Trevino once said: “If I ever meet a golf instructor who can beat me then I will listen to what he has to say.”
These are both one-of-a-kind, legendary men who are the hero's of millions. I don't know why they don't teach Jack's swing, since his swing was, in my estimation, superior to everyone's.
Or more, why doesn't anyone copy Jack's putting set up and stroke? After all he's one of the greatest clutch putters in history. Looks kinda unorthodox, hunched over and everything but I can't think of any other with a similar style.
Modern equipment is overrated. Balls are longer and Clubs are a little longer too, but you could work the ball better with the old blades and persimmon woods.
@@fuggetabodit You obviously never hit a 43” driver with a Dynaflex steel shaft and a persimmon head. The irons used back then had a sweet spot smaller than the size of a dime and hits off that sweet spot lost tons of distance and direction. Go sell your crazy someplace else. If modern equipment wasn’t better, today’s pros wouldn’t be using it. Duh. The ball and clubs are only “a little longer” and that is why there are 525 yard par 4’s in the U.S. Opens of today and 250 yard par 3’s. Have you ever even played golf?
The swing that Jack makes at 2:50 is the perfect. He hits ball first and his clubhead drags on the ground a good 1 feet after impact. Hit down to make the ball go up.
nickllaus said if you look at impact himself bobby jones and ben hogan all look identical.that there is only one way to correctly deliver the clubhead.nicklaus's swing was on plane
man ii knew said he saw nicklaus at wentworth in the 1970s(1971/1970) said in 54 holes he missed 2 greens and one of those the ball span off the green stated that nicklaus did not miss fairway or green and hit the ball a country mile
@@fs1natra All Jack had was the ultimate funding of a franchisee owner/pharmacist that supplied most of Ohio.....so he had a little more than some help.
@@fs1natra Lee also grew up sleeping on a dirt floor. Lee also had to sell golf balls to earn money. Both men are great but Lee definitely came from poverty. When they say poor as dirt that was literally Lee when he grew up.
@@fs1natra That is not true. Trevino was a machine gunner in Okinawa for 2 years before a general found out he could play golf and included him in his foursome when he played. Even then, Trevino entered the Marines at 17 having lived his life up to then with his mother, grandfather & 2 sisters in a one-room shack with no running water, no electricity, and a dirt floor that was located on the grounds of a cemetery where Trevino worked with his grandfather digging graves. Tell me about Trevino having “help” in the Marines. Go sell your crazy someplace else because it isn’t selling here.
godamnit I wanna see the ball flights but I dont think they really recorded that since you couldn't see it :( how low were lee trevinos shots? were they like stingers so he got that roll from the texas courses he would play?
Trevino tells a story of Nicklaus competing in 1962 in a long drive competition held annually before the PGA Championship and with a 43” driver that had a Dynaflex steel shaft (stiff flex) and a persimmon head, he hit the longest drive at 341 yards. Trevino said that if Nicklaus had the use of today’s equipment at that time, he would have driven past the par four holes and be chipping back from over the greens. Trevino stated that during their prime years, Nicklaus averaged about 285 yards off the tee while he averaged 245-250 yards off the tee and noted that difference was without Nicklaus trying to hit it his farthest.
Jack was great but his competitors were great also. Tiger never faced the quality of golfers Jack did. The list was long from Arnie to Greg Norman over 30 years
Some weirdnesses: it looks like they always had their caddies fetch the ball out of the hole. The greens are painfully slow. The most confusing part is that Ben Wright keeps mentioning the "stroke play" score--for instance that Nicklaus posted a 34 on the front nine. But there is no stroke play score during a match play event, what with concessions, etc., only a match play score. Why would he keep bringing it up? It just confuses the matter.
Every televised match play makes reference to a stroke play score to give an indication of the quality of golf being played. The stoke play scores are not official scores because it is match play event with concessions etc. But a match play event where 2 players are shooting the equivalent of stroke play scores in the 60’s tells you what kind of a match is being played vs. a match where the 2 players are shooting the equivalent stroke play scores in the mid-high 70’s. The first example is that of a well played march, while the second example is that of a not-so-well-played match.
If Lee Trevino’s parents were Mexican citizens when he was born, Trevino would be a Mexican citizen, as well as a US citizen. No different than me having dual US/UK citizenship due to my being born in the US to parents who were both UK citizens working in the US. Does that answer your bigoted question smart ass?
How many legit hall of famers did Jack have to beat to get 18 majors. Answer. A whole lot. How good was the competition back then. Answer. Moe Norman never won a tournament in the USA even though he was a star in Canada.
Wow, these guys were players. It was a different game compared with the robo Golf of today. Miss these days..
All the "get off my lawn!!"comments. Robo golf of today? They were great players then and their great players now. No difference
@Barton Farley yeah theres been massive changes through the decades but but my point is, there's really no difference in each era's great players, they're simply the best golfers of their respective era's. I don't think one or the other had more talented, skilled or better players.
Completely agree…every golfer’s swing today is singing the same notes.
What a great final in what was a terrific end of season tournament.
We used to enjoy the BBC blanket coverage in the days when they actually had live top class golf on air.
Best commentators like Peter Allis and top presenters such has Harry Carpenter.
As you have seen all the top players competed in the World match play at Wentworth.
Fast forward to nowadays 😢
Trevino was, is, a fantastic golfer. Incredible. Amazing. I could go on and on. The drives mostly in the fairway, irons mostly at the pin and usually close. Chip shots going in most of the time. And putts dropping from all over the green. All this from a guy who would shine the shoes in the clubhouse and cut the grass by the greens who would practice on a makeshift course in the back. Practice until his hands bled. Came up with a style that worked for him and never gave up. Mucho respect Lee Buck. Mucho respect.
Well Said Robert!
I agree he's one of the best ball (and consistent) strikers in history but a little overkill on the chipping and putting 😉 his story is amazing though.
nuff said ... Lee Rules === unbridled brilliance !!!
Two great golfers, but even better human beings.
Agreed
Well Said!
What a match. Trevino was a s tough an opponent as Jack ever had, with the possible exception of Tom Watson. Trevino winning 6 majors in the Nicklaus era was quite an accomplishment.
Trevino bear Ray Floyd in a money game while he was still a teenager in Texas.
Yes, but Trevino is older than Floyd, FYI. I know the match(es) you speak of, well.
fuggetabodit Actually I believe this was when Trevino had finished his stint in the Army.
@@A-FrameWedge he was a marine
@@TheMotownPhilly a documentary i saw about trevino said that all lee did in the marines was play golf
Nothing on tv in those days, these guys were my heroes growing up, both fine gentleman , and both great golfers without the help of shot tracer😄⛳⛳⛳🦘
Thank you for posting this video. Jack Nicklaus received a winner’s cheque of £5,750 out of a total prize fund of £18,400. How times have changed !
As Trevino said: “I appreciate being paid to play a game that I would otherwise pay to play.”
Two of the greats of golf....not only in playing the game, but also in living lives they can be proud of. Seems like much of that has been lost by everyone today.
There were some bastards then as today, nothing changed
The most underrated part of Trevino is his honesty. It is damn hard to be funny, AND be honest. And he is sneaky humble. I am in shock to find out in another recent interview, that Trevino was asked to join a world league or something in 1969, and refused. It might have been lucrative for him etc...but he said The PGA threatened to take away his teaching card. He said he worked for 4 years to get this card, and if everything started falling off the cliff in his playing, he could still teach and make a living. This is AFTER winning the US Open and a PGA Tournament in Hawaii. You talk about a man that appreciates his fortunes, and values everything that has been offered to him. He just said this: I could pick up range balls, I could give lessons etc...He values everything.... Including the ability to make a living as a teacher.
I play golf with my fancy range finder and Titlist Pro Vx golf balls and wish I was 1/2 as good as these Legends Of Golf...
Jack drilled a birdie off a watcher, that is awesome, I need some crowd around my green to keep my chances up.
That counts as 2 trash for gambling ... one birdie and one.... idk wat to call it maybe watchie or spectatorie lmao
I love Tevino's dealer's hat. It is awesome!
Just a couple years earlier Lee was a golf range “pro” and then match play vs greatest of all time, crazy.
Trevino went from being discharged from the Marines in 1960 at 21 after 4 years of service having never had a golf lesson in his life to playing his first U.S. Open at Olympic CC in 1966 and finishing in 54th place to then finishing 5th in the 1967 U.S. Open at Baltusrol CC to winning the 1968 U.S. Open at Oak Hill CC all the while never having had a golf lesson in his life.
Trevino once said: “If I ever meet a golf instructor who can beat me then I will listen to what he has to say.”
Thanks for posting ....classic golf match
Thanks for posting this great match!
man was a powerhouse my god he tore through the ball
These are both one-of-a-kind, legendary men who are the hero's of millions. I don't know why they don't teach Jack's swing, since his swing was, in my estimation, superior to everyone's.
Or more, why doesn't anyone copy Jack's putting set up and stroke? After all he's one of the greatest clutch putters in history. Looks kinda unorthodox, hunched over and everything but I can't think of any other with a similar style.
Incredible golf. Considering their equipment in those days.
Modern equipment is overrated. Balls are longer and Clubs are a little longer too, but you could work the ball better with the old blades and persimmon woods.
Some veteran pro players claim they could hit those shots *because* of their equipment.
@@fuggetabodit You obviously never hit a 43” driver with a Dynaflex steel shaft and a persimmon head. The irons used back then had a sweet spot smaller than the size of a dime and hits off that sweet spot lost tons of distance and direction. Go sell your crazy someplace else. If modern equipment wasn’t better, today’s pros wouldn’t be using it. Duh.
The ball and clubs are only “a little longer” and that is why there are 525 yard par 4’s in the U.S. Opens of today and 250 yard par 3’s. Have you ever even played golf?
This is when you had to hit a golf ball
A Mexican born in Dallas, makes him American. :)
He considered himself Mexican first. That's ok, it's fine to be proud of one's heritage. Like saying Scots-Irish etc.
I didn't think Trevino even knew out of bounds existed.
Nobody copied Jacks swing because nobody had the talent to. By far best golfer ever! He could hit a 1 iron off fairway higher then my PW
Greg Norman copied Jack a bit back in day and Tiger Copied Greg when Greg was #1 in the World and TW was coming up.
Damm what a duel!
in my younger days, I was deep in the heather a lot too.
Ohhh how putting has changed....and announcing:)
Announcing has truly changed for the better.
This announcing is horrific.
Thanks
The swing that Jack makes at 2:50 is the perfect. He hits ball first and his clubhead drags on the ground a good 1 feet after impact. Hit down to make the ball go up.
Agree and also like the crowd reaction.
I pinch my 3 wood at impact as easy to hit as a wedge...
Chicano. The term Mr. Wright, is a Chicano/American, but he's a Texan, through, and through.
Great stuff-old school golf
"...both 30, Trevino a Mexican born in Dallas and Nicklaus born in Columbus and there the similarity ends..."
they keep repeating the same impact-sound, regardless of the player/club/shot :-(
I guess it was filmed without sound-recording and edited later on
Trevino would get his revenge in the 1971 US Open, beating Jack in an 18 hole playoff.
Jack's swing is unique to him.
So is Super Mex's
No he was just athletic and strong enough to swing the correct way. The better way.
nickllaus said if you look at impact himself bobby jones and ben hogan all look identical.that there is only one way to correctly deliver the clubhead.nicklaus's swing was on plane
@ Adrian Ashworth Trevino said they still used the small ball then.
man ii knew said he saw nicklaus at wentworth in the 1970s(1971/1970)
said in 54 holes he missed 2 greens and one of those the ball span off the green
stated that nicklaus did not miss fairway or green and hit the ball a country mile
christopher smith they say william wallace kiiled 10 men with 1 blow of his claymore!
Country Club golden boy VS A true Self Made man....
lee was in the marines.all lee did in the marines was play golf.so he did have some help along the way
@@fs1natra All Jack had was the ultimate funding of a franchisee owner/pharmacist that supplied most of Ohio.....so he had a little more than some help.
The majority of tour players grew up as country club kids
@@fs1natra Lee also grew up sleeping on a dirt floor. Lee also had to sell golf balls to earn money. Both men are great but Lee definitely came from poverty. When they say poor as dirt that was literally Lee when he grew up.
@@fs1natra That is not true. Trevino was a machine gunner in Okinawa for 2 years before a general found out he could play golf and included him in his foursome when he played.
Even then, Trevino entered the Marines at 17 having lived his life up to then with his mother, grandfather & 2 sisters in a one-room shack with no running water, no electricity, and a dirt floor that was located on the grounds of a cemetery where Trevino worked with his grandfather digging graves.
Tell me about Trevino having “help” in the Marines. Go sell your crazy someplace else because it isn’t selling here.
epic scrap
What a fantastic post - thank you.
I wonder if they were able to use the large ball or had to use the small one? Hard to tell from the film.
I think in Brit Touraments you had to use the small ball
Yes, I know Hogan had to adapt for /Carnoustie '53
godamnit I wanna see the ball flights but I dont think they really recorded that since you couldn't see it :( how low were lee trevinos shots? were they like stingers so he got that roll from the texas courses he would play?
nicklaus at wentworth.jack missed 2 greens in 54 holes.one of those the ball spun off the green.hit the ball a country mile.
Trevino tells a story of Nicklaus competing in 1962 in a long drive competition held annually before the PGA Championship and with a 43” driver that had a Dynaflex steel shaft (stiff flex) and a persimmon head, he hit the longest drive at 341 yards. Trevino said that if Nicklaus had the use of today’s equipment at that time, he would have driven past the par four holes and be chipping back from over the greens. Trevino stated that during their prime years, Nicklaus averaged about 285 yards off the tee while he averaged 245-250 yards off the tee and noted that difference was without Nicklaus trying to hit it his farthest.
Jack was great but his competitors were great also. Tiger never faced the quality of golfers Jack did. The list was long from Arnie to Greg Norman over 30 years
Some weirdnesses: it looks like they always had their caddies fetch the ball out of the hole. The greens are painfully slow. The most confusing part is that Ben Wright keeps mentioning the "stroke play" score--for instance that Nicklaus posted a 34 on the front nine. But there is no stroke play score during a match play event, what with concessions, etc., only a match play score. Why would he keep bringing it up? It just confuses the matter.
Every televised match play makes reference to a stroke play score to give an indication of the quality of golf being played. The stoke play scores are not official scores because it is match play event with concessions etc. But a match play event where 2 players are shooting the equivalent of stroke play scores in the 60’s tells you what kind of a match is being played vs. a match where the 2 players are shooting the equivalent stroke play scores in the mid-high 70’s. The first example is that of a well played march, while the second example is that of a not-so-well-played match.
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This is golf as it should be.😅
Fark yah lee
How can Trevino be Mexican, born in Texas?
@@johnshogskins4443 Trevino called himself Mexican, I think because his parents were.
ysgol3 Please don’t try to educate him ........ he is beyond redemption.
@@GeordieBoy1955 LOL yes, thank you !
The same as any nationally-identifying person born in the USA.
If Lee Trevino’s parents were Mexican citizens when he was born, Trevino would be a Mexican citizen, as well as a US citizen. No different than me having dual US/UK citizenship due to my being born in the US to parents who were both UK citizens working in the US. Does that answer your bigoted question smart ass?
Awesome
Jack said to Trevino one time do u now how great u really could be if u took this game seriously!LOL!!
How many legit hall of famers did Jack have to beat to get 18 majors. Answer. A whole lot. How good was the competition back then. Answer. Moe Norman never won a tournament in the USA even though he was a star in Canada.
What course?
TheTurfrex It is the West Course at Wentworth near London, England.
5:48 Amazing chip in from a shitty lie.
Both of them missed fairways
I'd forgotten have shitty Trevino's swing was until I saw this. Thank for posting.
one of the greatest swings in the history of golf.
Yeah, so shitty that Gary Player said that the two best ball strikers he ever saw were Hogan & Trevino. Go sell your crazy someplace else.
Well I used to think so but anyone who can publicly support a criminal insurrectionist like Trump is not the man I thought he was
Let's see. The FBI has concluded there was NO insurrection...yep..and I bet you voted for the idiot in office now..thanks
David Forbes you're a grade 1 a-hole
@@pigslefats well thank you very much for the gratuitous insult! I appreciate you taking the trouble
Nut job
What a knob
Awesome