@@CraftComputing question for you....power supply fan up or down? most google searches claim fan down so does not put heat into the case...but air flowing onto the floor?
I work at a radio station/music studio in a 3rd world country and due to costs we bought a x99 kit (known here as chinese dragons) to work with. We paid 1/3 the price of a new current-gen system. Our setup has a dual socket huananzhi motherboard, 2x xeon 2678 v3 processors and 8x16GB (128GB) DDR3 ECC ram sticks running hackintosh. It smokes everything you throw at it.
Here in Europe B450 destroyed that value. Those motherboards are to be had for around 50 euro's second hand, add a cheap 5500 or 5600 and you are at the same price as the Chinese aliexpress X99 system would go for. And a 5500 can be overclocked safely to 4.7 GHZ and run around 75 to 90 watts at that speed.
My dad is still running the AMD FX-8350 on his desktop. It has posting issues as well. The fix was to reseat the processor and clear the CMOS. He uses his laptop and it is not a priority to upgrade or replace the desktop.
We could do with a lot less e-waste and there are many people in poor countries for whom these boards and cpus represent a chance to buy and use something relatively modern. Heck, there are possibly American and European children who can't afford to pay $300 for an entry level B650 or B760 motherboard. For half that price, they get a CPU included in the deal so kudos to chinese engineers and manufacturers for keeping this trend going.
@@ufsteropolstero6014 where are u seeing entry boards for 300$ lol and these cpus are dirt cheap, maybe their mobo costs a bit because they arent being made
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ I was clearly writing about contemporary boards from Taiwanese manufacturers like ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte... AM5 and lga1700 boards are very expensive if you noticed? Worse of all, most of these (asus, msi, gigabyte b760 and b650) boards are cheaply made and lack many features like diagnostic screens. Otherwise I don't know what the hell you're babbling about.
@@ufsteropolstero6014 modern mobos, rams and even the 5600g almost triple'd their prices over here somehow I can feel that pain, luckily I was able to get it still cheap before everything had rised in pricing. Rip trying to build another system tho
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ Shockingly the FX8000 are still selling on the used market for often too much, can still find deals on them, but people I find in my area between to big cities, will sell an AMD FX 8350 with a 970FX or some other crappy board for like $200 bucks, and wont take less lol. Its hard to find the FX8000 for under $100 considering you can get a faster i5 or i7 full system for as much or cheaper in a lot of cases. Idk why FX holds its value, its an ok CPU, but man considering the other options, its usually not worth it.
Owch, this one hits close to home as I'm still running an FX-8350. The good: - Has a 1060 6gb card - 32gb (4x8gb ddr3 1600 sticks) - SSD Drive - Hyper 212 cooler (which "may" fit) - 500w powersupply I might have to go this route for an upgrade.
As much as I enjoyed this video, and I love those interesting Xeon builds... I would recommend scouring the market place for a used B450 am4 motherboard. (around 100$ cad) a used Ryzen 1600 (around 50$ cad) New DDR4 3200 ram can be found as low as 50$ for 16 gigs. Your GTX 1060 is still decent. And you end up with a platform you can eventually upgrade to a 5600 or 5700 in the long run.
@@CoolTI-Daniel I ahve to agree, the X79 route is not worth it anymore, the Xeons are far slower than any cheap 3xxx series ryzen and they can be had for about three times the price of the X79 parts. 100~ USD compared to 300 USD(which is the price for a b450/A520 and a R5 5600) even better some ryzen stuff can be had for even less like old b350 boards and used 3xxx series. I got a b450 board for 40 usd and ryzen 3700x for 70 usd. thats a great build for cheap compared to old low clocked xeons.
Back in 2013 I had that same Gigabyte 990FX motherboard and cpu in my rig, even had similar red RAM too! Unlocked a lot of memories of building that rig with dual GTX780's on a custom loop. Those were good times for sure!
Every AMD gigabyte board I've had has had issues. 939 one only posted every 4th attempt. AM2 had dodgy RAM slots, the worst BIOS I've ever seen and took about 2 minutes to Post. My Intel gigabyte ones have been pretty stable tbh.
i still have my 990FX asus sabertooth with a 8350 in it, i ran it overclocked at 5.0ghz for several years, with 2400 speed ddr3 trident-x memory. it posted benchmarks very close to 4770k-4790k i7s. but then it started getting buggy, silicon degradation due to all that voltage i was pushing to keep it stable. it was fun while it lasted! updated to a 3950x as the next build, so it was a hefty jump
I have two 990fx Sabertooth. Both running perfectly fine. One is in a home NAS server. Incredibly powerful NAS with 8350 and 16gig and a 10gbit NIC. Whats more easily upgradable if i wanted
I will a agree, if you could give for your reasoning for going from a 32 bit to 64 bit system, and show some examples apart deliberately, crippled software that used to work 32 systems, but needs 64 bits' to do the same thing ?
@@dh2032 Yeah same here you comment or question makes no sense, Of course there is EVERY Reason to switch from 32bit (x86) to 64bit (x64) 32bit cpu's and Operating system can only use max of 4GB ram really and max of 10TB HDD space or something like that. Nobody in 2024 should be running any 32bit system as even the worst 64 bit systems with 8gb of ram are better than best 32bit with only 4gb of ram.
I still have 2 of the AMD FX chips in my family, an FX-6300 and an FX-8320e and for things like Skyrim and Roblox? perfectly fine. I did go the X58 route when throwing one together for one of the grandson's friends, you really couldn't go wrong with a 3.0Ghz 6c/12t with the board and 8gb of RAM for $62.
My son and I trash picked an old 8350fx based pc from e waste last thanksgiving. Took it apart, cleaned it all up, added a 1050ti, installed Linux mint and now he’s got his first gaming pc. Minecraft and the lego games run great
Long Live XEON! planning to build a 10core x79 or x99 soon, mainly for battlefield 2042 which is a extremely CPU hungry game that can fully utilize 8core 16treads CPU in full 128 players mode
I still run a FX 8350 with an nvidia 1060 6GB as a 1080p gaming system and it still holds up really well in most games. It has really surprised me by well it has held up over the years. Especially with another much newer system to compare with.
@@anuzahyder7185 I am not, for simple 1080p 60 fps gaming it still works just fine. We play Darktide on it all the time. It isn't my main PC, but it is a reliable backup when needed.
those upper end RX 500 cards are a dime a dozen now, and excellent bang for the buck. my buddy scored a 590 that would "run great for about an hour and then get very slow" for 40 dollars, dumped some new noctua thermal compound in it, and it boogies all day long now.
I think I will do this for my parents PC. I've got the machinist v2.82H matx like yours and she's got the four channel support with ECC RAM (checked on CPU-Z) so for 120 euros, I got the motherboard + CPU + 64Go RAM. Yes that's overkill for their usage but for the price, well, let's go !
Nice one Jeff. I built my X79 workstation rig using a dual CPU board, and 2 x E52690V2 10 core chips, after watching one of your videos. Works just fine. It actually had 2x6 core CPUs in it at first, then the 10 core chips came down to 22 quid each XD So thanks XD
You can get a e5 2667v2 and 5500xt or a 5700xt instead for a little more in Aliexpress. 2667v2 have 8c/16t and 3.3/4.0 ghz. same TDP and 5%/25% gain over the 2643v3 in single or multi. I kinda want to try my luck with a Mini-Dtx x79 machinist mobo to build in d26 pc case using this little monster.
the FX 63xx and FX 83xx aged a lot better than the popular i3 and i5 chips that were priced around them in the 2013-2014 launch windows, those extra threads helped keep them a lot more relevant in the later parts of the twenty teens. But now that were screaming into the twenty twenties and a single core on a i9 13900ks can outperform all 8 cores of an FX chip it's definitely time to move off that as a main rig, first gen ryzen parts are so cheap on the market now I would prob go that route over the x79 since the upgrade path is better on those am4 systems vs the x79 systems. I still run some fx based APUs for messing around with stuff and for light work or older games they do just fine, but since they will never support newer windows they will be limited to windows 10 and linux for the foreseeable future.
I'm still running my trusty old FX8350 but now with proxmox, it run very well with the vms and other things I have on it, the gpu passthrough runs solid attached with an RX560, i'm impress with the results, still digging what can run my PC, but for now I'm learning a lot with this machine, and having fun too :D
I am using my old 8320E as a Truenas server. It is working well, and I spent nothing. (I would like to throw some more memory at the 8g I have now but this is just a stop-gap for the server hardware I'm currently rebuilding) This system went from me to my wife to door-stopping, so its nice I was able to reuse it.
Same CPU & Motherboard as i ran for 10 years (2014 - 2024) FX-8350 + Gigabyte UHD3 Board + 360mm Custom Loop. DDR3 2333mhz - 16GB (2 x 8gb) Ran at constant 4.8-5ghz for over 10 years (about 210 watts TDP) Ambient +2*c on Idle and 55*c Max Temps. Horrible performance tho, Think it got about 4,500 CB23 Points on MT. But still lasted me well over 92,000 Hours constant runtime.
Any mention of FX got me feeling nostalgic. My first PC build was a FX-6300 paired with an asrock 960gm mobo, CM hyper 212 evo, hyperX ram, some Rosewill PSU and a EVGA GTX 650 Ti boost. Good times! Just recently retired it. I'm surprised it's still functional with all these cheap parts haha.
Hey I just rebuilt a seven year old box with an Intel I-5 4460, adding four drives and an SSD to host ProxMox with VMs for pFsense, piHole (per your video), and TrueNAS Core. Have one container job for backups. Been running a month and it's been great! (Even did a video on it). That old hardware doesn't know it's old!😁
Have you tried using the X99 platforms? I have started to use them for budget gaming PCs rather than the X79. They have the extra AVX2 instructions, which I am thinking should help with some of the stutters and low frame rates.
X99 with the turbo unlock is much better than X79 but if you want to use the SKUs that supports DDR3 still the price goes up fast from the cheaper X99 chips that use DDR5. So X79 makes sense here.
The beer on the side is like a reverse progression bar for the video, and you can see the stuff that has been shot at the beginning but edited in the middle of the video
*People already FORGOT how GOOD the RX 570 - RX 580 was, and still IS !* Back in the day, they were price to performance MONSTERS ! And even now, you can pick them up for 50 to 80 bucks ! They are STILL low budget KINGS ! EVEN the 'AMD fine wine' still works atm ! My RX-590 now, even BEATS the GTX 1070 !!!
I think the best use case if you need a platform with many cores over performance for multiple vms. Then again maybe a few high power cores might still run more efficiently than many "slow". Worth benching.
I'm stil rocking my FX-8350 with 24GB ram and RX590 8GB. I have a Phenom II X6 1100T running Ubuntu hosting my Plex and Docker setup. This is a fairly inexpensive upgrade that I'll mull over for a bit until it eats at me and I finally have to buy it. But honestly, my gaming is done on my Steam Deck. ~My system still gets some gaming use and is very similar to your BIL's. Let me know if you want benchmarks from this system.
I have my OLD game rig still running as a linux learning pc. MSI 9900x, amd 8350, 16G ram, XFX rx 580 8gb and 500gb sata SSD and it does great via steam and older titles @ 1080p. I still enjoy tinkering with it to this day.
Note - some X79 MOBO's support NVME plugged, with a $10 adapter into a PCI-E slot. You can get well over 3GB/sec out of this. Tremendous boost over a 550MB/sec SSD or a 180MB/sec HD.
nvme is pointless for games (so it is for most other tasks that don't involve moving or processing hefty loads of data). while switching from an hdd to a sata ssd decreases load times from like 1+ min to ~10-15 sec, sata ssd vs nvme ssd is like ~10-15 sec to 2-5 sec. yes, technically noticeable, but i'd say not worth it, especially on a budget system
Hey man there's nothing wrong with that FX8350. I still game Triple A games with it on my GTX560. I rock a max of 30 frames per frame in most games buddy
Heh, I retired my FX-8150 rig that I bought on release day a long time ago. Of course, I'm nutty and I replaced it with a dual Opteron 8345 system - probably not the best idea, but it was a learning experience. That same FX-8150 has since been put back into service and runs my NAS, Plex server, and an Octoprint server for one of my 3D printers.
Thing is, if you went with intel for the same budget in 2012, you'd have ended up with a 2500k which would *also* desperately need an upgrade today. They aged about the same, with some games actually favoring the 8 threads on the FX. THt said, X79 looks like a decent budget option to re-use that DDR3 memory. Especially if you can get a quad-channel board.
Those take the all-mighty i7-5775C. ...ok maybe not all-mighty, the clocks were ass but it was still basically the X3D of its era, and would make for an interesting throwback.
I use my fx8020 as a cheap file server with some 6gig refurbished enterprise drives. Three months ago I had to change out the stock fan cooler and now she runs like a champ.
This hurts me. An E5-1650 V2 is the same price as the E5-2647 v2 and can be pushed to an all core 4.0 to 4.2ghz+ on those boards (speaking from experience). I know it's not "a lot" more, but it really does help. I love these X79 combos and with the cypto crash you can really get a great gaming experience for sub $500.
@@JC7119 Depend on the game. Remember the 5800X3D? its the 5800X with double the cache. Same situation with these xeons. It would be a nice comparision.
@@DanielGT_93 not sure it's the same in this case because the support ram speed is lower on the 2647. However I am well aware of the 5800X3D, I have one. I wish we could do a back to back comparison because I'm not sure 13mb of L3 would make that much of a difference in gaming. Video please Mr. Content creator 🤣
I’m an AMD fanboy, building and tweaking since the 90s. The FX CPUs where horribly mediocre, especially compared to comparable Intel CPUs of the time and the previous Phenom II chips. I’m very happy my family skipped bulldozer. P.s. I have a kick ass Asus Crossblade ranger/APU(32gig)that I use every week. It’s awesome for burning cds & blue rays and generic use. 0:03
It... I thought this was an amd vid... But e5... That's a Xeon... No way. That's awesome. That's what I wanna make my first build with.. a Xeon.. any one of them.
I have looked at these Xeon as something to keep the cost down but the rendering up however these are very much made for working from what I can tell or to be used in a lab.
Still rocking what was sold as a FX6600 to me in the US. Replaced the MoBo, mix and match 14Gb of RAM, SSD+HDD, M.2 not working. And an RX 550 4Gb. I need it replaced so bad, basic tasks are starting to cause system freezes.
Mine Turbo's to 4.2Ghz tough. Even tough its true Identity is a mistery as 6600 does not exist. And my cooler is sticking out the case because i did not bother to measure the case!
I’m currently running my home multi-VM proxmox server on a FX9590 kept alive from my old gaming setup. No good for gaming anymore, but runs my nas/plex/game host and a win10 vm just fine
This build perfectly highlights how frustrating my brother's stubbornness is. He's on a similarly dying AMD FX platform system, but he has a GTX 980Ti and 16GB of 1866 DDR3. Skipping doordash for a month would get him enough of an upgrade to run Warzone and Discord simultaneously, but he refused to put money into his system unless he can change out every single part down to the cables.
I just upgraded my Windows XP/10 machine from this very same CPU/Mobo/RAM combo to an ivy bridge i5, and it's similarly impressive. I'd imagine the Xeons are even better. What a legend of a platform.
I have that same Gigabyte RX 570, but it doesn't seem to work. The fans kick on full speed and the system doesn't recognize it at all. Nice to know. I do get it fixed, it will run pretty decently
Watching this over a year later and thinking to myself this might make a cheap emulation build as the instruction sets for these CPU's (Ivy Bridge-EP at least) is satisfactory for RPCS3 and Xenia, however I cannot for the life of me find a 2647 V2 anywhere. Both eBay and AliExpress are turning up zilch! Here's hoping someone can suggest an alternative from the same gen/ codename line-up. Edit: Ah, I see now you meant 2643 V2.
My FX8320 has been running without any problems with a 4.2ghz oc since 2012. All the hate aside it still won't die despite loads of neglect and abuse. It currently runs a nas 24/7. My intel x99 6800k (the pinnacle "upgrade" for the time) won't boot with xmp, constantly blue screens and has gone through two motherboards
I upgraded from X79 to X99. From E5-1680V2 (OC'd) with ASUS P9X79Pro and 4x8GB DDR3 1600 desktop ram and GTX1080Ti ... ... TO ... ... E5-2696V3 (turbo-unlocked) with X99TF and 4x8GB DDR4 3000 desktop ram and GTX1080Ti. NO REGRETS. X99 brings AVX2 instruction set. Runs cooler. Multi-tasks like a BEAST! Price for the 2696V3 was $51 (May '23). 4x8GB DDR4 3000 was $52 (second hand Corsair Vengeance). I was getting up to 4.5Ghz all core with the 1680v2 on air...but the 2696v3 trounces it across the board, regardless of the lower single and multi-core clocks.
yeah, the 4GB RX 570 might not have been the best pick. Maybe the 8GB RX 580? Those are also cheap and plentiful on the used market, should be around $100.
There are loads of dual xeon boards on aliexpress, jurat curious if you'd tried any, and how they fared on performance compared to single chip boards (I've got an old i5 4570)
Another nice video, I ordered a set myself. The CPU is tough to find at $16, it just takes a bit of patience. The motherboard is actually a bit cheaper right now.
One of my daughters gaming pc which I put together years ago is running a fx cpu with no issues at 1080, playing games like valiant and overwatch.... Keep thinking about upgrading it but don't see the point when they still do their job!.. This to me proves that you don't need to upgrade every generation of cpu, as even the older stuff still performs well... 👍
Stellar values on E3 V3 chips, such as 1270v3 for $25 right now, or 1230,1231,1240,1241. Platform is much cheaper, you may find socket 1150 boards being thrown away. 50% computational advantage on that FX chip. Some E3 V3 have onboard video too, usually the xxx5 and xxx6 models. If you are going budget, depending on use case, there are H81 and B85, maybe even H87 and Z87 boards for $24 and up. If you are OK wiring an ACER OEM board to an ATX standard the boards are sometimes $13
Many years ago, the first video I watched of yours was the "Piledriver, or just a Pile?" about an opteron server chip in a Chinese salvage board, how does that CPU compare to the FX one?
This video was very interesting, and even got me considering to buy a x99 kit and reuse my ddr4 kit and cooler, my skylake i5 is simply not cutting it for me, and it is a bottleneck for my 1070.
So I started with an i5 3570k and sli 760. In the same case(HAF XM). I upgraded to sli 980, a single GTX 1080. In same case upgraded to an R5 3600 with a b450 motherboard and 16 GB of memory. Then to a new case (Cooler Master H500 ARGB, same internals). In the end I have a R5 5600x (b550)with an Rx 6800xt. All in my second case CM H500. I'm hopping to wait for R5 8xxx cpus and Rx 8xxx GPUs.
back in the day I had an fx 8350 rig, with dual radeon hd 6850's in "crossfire"... then ugpraded to dual 6970's ... after that rig, I switched to intel and did not return to amd until ryzen 5000 series
What are these Chinese boards like at running Linux? I'm a relative noob, probably looking to go for Mint or similar, but I've got a project that will serve as the excuse I've been looking to tip my toe into the Linux pool?
If you are gaming consider splurging up to a 1070 or such, can be found for around $100. Go to a Haswell E3 1150 Xeon might make the difference up with a free or cheaper motherboard. If gaming you might be better off than with low end X79. Was your $55 board a 4 channel or a 2 channel?
I'm still running my FX-8350 as I type this. My Mobo is on its last leg. It suffers from thermal expansion, making the board a bit flakey, but only a bit. lol
Xeon is life
Xeon is bae
@@CraftComputing Xeon is the bomb or in my case photon torpedo
Holy shit my favourite Aussie
@@CraftComputing question for you....power supply fan up or down? most google searches claim fan down so does not put heat into the case...but air flowing onto the floor?
@@pvanb2 depends on the case you are using but usually it is best to face it down
I work at a radio station/music studio in a 3rd world country and due to costs we bought a x99 kit (known here as chinese dragons) to work with. We paid 1/3 the price of a new current-gen system.
Our setup has a dual socket huananzhi motherboard, 2x xeon 2678 v3 processors and 8x16GB (128GB) DDR3 ECC ram sticks running hackintosh. It smokes everything you throw at it.
I use a 1660v4 with 128Gb of 2400mhz ram in quad channel. I run mw2/warzone 2.0 at 120+fps on max graphics settings.
@@dylanabelson9551 what gpu?
Here in Europe B450 destroyed that value. Those motherboards are to be had for around 50 euro's second hand, add a cheap 5500 or 5600 and you are at the same price as the Chinese aliexpress X99 system would go for. And a 5500 can be overclocked safely to 4.7 GHZ and run around 75 to 90 watts at that speed.
A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY TWO!?!?!?!?!!? (had to tsay the number as text so I could use caps lol)
@@tqrules01 I want to know where i can buy b450 + 5600 at $60 because thats how cheap x99 + xeon is
My dad is still running the AMD FX-8350 on his desktop. It has posting issues as well. The fix was to reseat the processor and clear the CMOS. He uses his laptop and it is not a priority to upgrade or replace the desktop.
We could do with a lot less e-waste and there are many people in poor countries for whom these boards and cpus represent a chance to buy and use something relatively modern. Heck, there are possibly American and European children who can't afford to pay $300 for an entry level B650 or B760 motherboard. For half that price, they get a CPU included in the deal so kudos to chinese engineers and manufacturers for keeping this trend going.
@@ufsteropolstero6014 where are u seeing entry boards for 300$ lol and these cpus are dirt cheap, maybe their mobo costs a bit because they arent being made
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ I was clearly writing about contemporary boards from Taiwanese manufacturers like ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte... AM5 and lga1700 boards are very expensive if you noticed? Worse of all, most of these (asus, msi, gigabyte b760 and b650) boards are cheaply made and lack many features like diagnostic screens. Otherwise I don't know what the hell you're babbling about.
@@ufsteropolstero6014 modern mobos, rams and even the 5600g almost triple'd their prices over here somehow I can feel that pain, luckily I was able to get it still cheap before everything had rised in pricing.
Rip trying to build another system tho
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ Shockingly the FX8000 are still selling on the used market for often too much, can still find deals on them, but people I find in my area between to big cities, will sell an AMD FX 8350 with a 970FX or some other crappy board for like $200 bucks, and wont take less lol. Its hard to find the FX8000 for under $100 considering you can get a faster i5 or i7 full system for as much or cheaper in a lot of cases. Idk why FX holds its value, its an ok CPU, but man considering the other options, its usually not worth it.
Owch, this one hits close to home as I'm still running an FX-8350.
The good:
- Has a 1060 6gb card
- 32gb (4x8gb ddr3 1600 sticks)
- SSD Drive
- Hyper 212 cooler (which "may" fit)
- 500w powersupply
I might have to go this route for an upgrade.
build it asap
As much as I enjoyed this video, and I love those interesting Xeon builds... I would recommend scouring the market place for a used B450 am4 motherboard. (around 100$ cad) a used Ryzen 1600 (around 50$ cad) New DDR4 3200 ram can be found as low as 50$ for 16 gigs.
Your GTX 1060 is still decent. And you end up with a platform you can eventually upgrade to a 5600 or 5700 in the long run.
@@CoolTI-Daniel I ahve to agree, the X79 route is not worth it anymore, the Xeons are far slower than any cheap 3xxx series ryzen and they can be had for about three times the price of the X79 parts.
100~ USD compared to 300 USD(which is the price for a b450/A520 and a R5 5600)
even better some ryzen stuff can be had for even less like old b350 boards and used 3xxx series. I got a b450 board for 40 usd and ryzen 3700x for 70 usd. thats a great build for cheap compared to old low clocked xeons.
Please don't. New i5 10400f along with an h410 cost like 180 USD and are probably much better than this. And please upgrade that 8350.
e5 2678 v3 with x99 ddr3 motherboard. and use all your components.
Back in 2013 I had that same Gigabyte 990FX motherboard and cpu in my rig, even had similar red RAM too! Unlocked a lot of memories of building that rig with dual GTX780's on a custom loop. Those were good times for sure!
Every AMD gigabyte board I've had has had issues. 939 one only posted every 4th attempt. AM2 had dodgy RAM slots, the worst BIOS I've ever seen and took about 2 minutes to Post. My Intel gigabyte ones have been pretty stable tbh.
i still have my 990FX asus sabertooth with a 8350 in it, i ran it overclocked at 5.0ghz for several years, with 2400 speed ddr3 trident-x memory. it posted benchmarks very close to 4770k-4790k i7s. but then it started getting buggy, silicon degradation due to all that voltage i was pushing to keep it stable. it was fun while it lasted! updated to a 3950x as the next build, so it was a hefty jump
I have two 990fx Sabertooth. Both running perfectly fine. One is in a home NAS server. Incredibly powerful NAS with 8350 and 16gig and a 10gbit NIC. Whats more easily upgradable if i wanted
The X58 and X79 are old but not obsolete!. 64 bit Cpu's got a bigger life then the already dead 32 bit once.
I will a agree, if you could give for your reasoning for going from a 32 bit to 64 bit system, and show some examples apart deliberately, crippled software that used to work 32 systems, but needs 64 bits' to do the same thing ?
@@dh2032 I did not understand a thing from what you want to say.
@@dh2032 Yeah same here you comment or question makes no sense,
Of course there is EVERY Reason to switch from 32bit (x86) to 64bit (x64)
32bit cpu's and Operating system can only use max of 4GB ram really and max of 10TB HDD space or something like that.
Nobody in 2024 should be running any 32bit system as even the worst 64 bit systems with 8gb of ram are better than best 32bit with only 4gb of ram.
I still have 2 of the AMD FX chips in my family, an FX-6300 and an FX-8320e and for things like Skyrim and Roblox? perfectly fine. I did go the X58 route when throwing one together for one of the grandson's friends, you really couldn't go wrong with a 3.0Ghz 6c/12t with the board and 8gb of RAM for $62.
Sitting here watching this on my FX-8350 rig... Still my main machine... =:o1
My son and I trash picked an old 8350fx based pc from e waste last thanksgiving. Took it apart, cleaned it all up, added a 1050ti, installed Linux mint and now he’s got his first gaming pc. Minecraft and the lego games run great
Long Live XEON! planning to build a 10core x79 or x99 soon, mainly for battlefield 2042 which is a extremely CPU hungry game that can fully utilize 8core 16treads CPU in full 128 players mode
I still have a Phenom II X6 1090T black edition with a R9 380X and 32 GB RAM here in use
I still run a FX 8350 with an nvidia 1060 6GB as a 1080p gaming system and it still holds up really well in most games. It has really surprised me by well it has held up over the years. Especially with another much newer system to compare with.
I gave my 8350 setup with an 1060 to my gf. The setup do really fine to Basic tasks and light-medium gaming. Cyberpunk is playable.
@@danielyoshida2243 upgrade that cpu from AMD to intel and youll get more fps !
Bro u kidding!? Holds up well? It didnt hold up well even when it was new lol
@@anuzahyder7185 I am not, for simple 1080p 60 fps gaming it still works just fine. We play Darktide on it all the time. It isn't my main PC, but it is a reliable backup when needed.
the case that the old build was in would have been nice for a home nas, lots of space for drives
That is a killer build. I love the way it looks. Love the channel by the way. Rider
those upper end RX 500 cards are a dime a dozen now, and excellent bang for the buck. my buddy scored a 590 that would "run great for about an hour and then get very slow" for 40 dollars, dumped some new noctua thermal compound in it, and it boogies all day long now.
I think I will do this for my parents PC. I've got the machinist v2.82H matx like yours and she's got the four channel support with ECC RAM (checked on CPU-Z) so for 120 euros, I got the motherboard + CPU + 64Go RAM. Yes that's overkill for their usage but for the price, well, let's go !
What psu are you using
That "dead" platform you are upgrading would make a very nice Windows XP classic gaming pc.
Nice one Jeff. I built my X79 workstation rig using a dual CPU board, and 2 x E52690V2 10 core chips, after watching one of your videos. Works just fine. It actually had 2x6 core CPUs in it at first, then the 10 core chips came down to 22 quid each XD
So thanks XD
You can get a e5 2667v2 and 5500xt or a 5700xt instead for a little more in Aliexpress. 2667v2 have 8c/16t and 3.3/4.0 ghz. same TDP and 5%/25% gain over the 2643v3 in single or multi. I kinda want to try my luck with a Mini-Dtx x79 machinist mobo to build in d26 pc case using this little monster.
Great to hear some reality on TH-cam!! Well done Jeff
the FX 63xx and FX 83xx aged a lot better than the popular i3 and i5 chips that were priced around them in the 2013-2014 launch windows, those extra threads helped keep them a lot more relevant in the later parts of the twenty teens. But now that were screaming into the twenty twenties and a single core on a i9 13900ks can outperform all 8 cores of an FX chip it's definitely time to move off that as a main rig, first gen ryzen parts are so cheap on the market now I would prob go that route over the x79 since the upgrade path is better on those am4 systems vs the x79 systems. I still run some fx based APUs for messing around with stuff and for light work or older games they do just fine, but since they will never support newer windows they will be limited to windows 10 and linux for the foreseeable future.
I would have overclocked it to 5.0 ghz since it was already on water, Thrown a RX 580 in it and moved it on. would have lasted a bit longer.
Hands down fx8350 is one of the worst processors of all time
this or the x99 model's are still a cheap upgrade over an fx and you get a m.2 slot and quad channel memory 40+ pci-e lane's
I'm still running my trusty old FX8350 but now with proxmox, it run very well with the vms and other things I have on it, the gpu passthrough runs solid attached with an RX560, i'm impress with the results, still digging what can run my PC, but for now I'm learning a lot with this machine, and having fun too :D
I am using my old 8320E as a Truenas server. It is working well, and I spent nothing. (I would like to throw some more memory at the 8g I have now but this is just a stop-gap for the server hardware I'm currently rebuilding) This system went from me to my wife to door-stopping, so its nice I was able to reuse it.
For like $2 more the E5-2667v2 is available with its 8c/16t and 4.0GHz of maximum turbo fury.
Almost 300k subs Jeff !! Keep rocking this !
Same CPU & Motherboard as i ran for 10 years (2014 - 2024)
FX-8350 + Gigabyte UHD3 Board + 360mm Custom Loop.
DDR3 2333mhz - 16GB (2 x 8gb)
Ran at constant 4.8-5ghz for over 10 years (about 210 watts TDP) Ambient +2*c on Idle and 55*c Max Temps.
Horrible performance tho, Think it got about 4,500 CB23 Points on MT.
But still lasted me well over 92,000 Hours constant runtime.
Any mention of FX got me feeling nostalgic. My first PC build was a FX-6300 paired with an asrock 960gm mobo, CM hyper 212 evo, hyperX ram, some Rosewill PSU and a EVGA GTX 650 Ti boost. Good times! Just recently retired it. I'm surprised it's still functional with all these cheap parts haha.
My first build had an fx-6300 as well!
A couple years ago the power supply died and took two graphics cards with it.
My first build was a Cyrix 166MHz 😄👴
If u used fx cpus then im pretty it wasnt good time lol
It depends really. FX lied about its cores
Hey I just rebuilt a seven year old box with an Intel I-5 4460, adding four drives and an SSD to host ProxMox with VMs for pFsense, piHole (per your video), and TrueNAS Core. Have one container job for backups. Been running a month and it's been great! (Even did a video on it). That old hardware doesn't know it's old!😁
Asus Rampage IV Black Edition X79 + Intel Xeon 2690 V2 4 GHZ~ O.C , still can't find any reason to upgrade it..
My x58 has played every thing that I threw at it, so far x58sabertooth 24gb ram gtx 950sc+ going to upgrade my video card soon
I'm running a RX 6600 XT with my X79 rig and an E5 1650 V2 cpu. It plays 1080p games with ease
Womp womp. I was legitimately hoping to see some before and after FX-8350 score comparisons.
Me too fam. Me too.
Have you tried using the X99 platforms? I have started to use them for budget gaming PCs rather than the X79. They have the extra AVX2 instructions, which I am thinking should help with some of the stutters and low frame rates.
X99 with the turbo unlock is much better than X79 but if you want to use the SKUs that supports DDR3 still the price goes up fast from the cheaper X99 chips that use DDR5. So X79 makes sense here.
@@undertone2472 You mean DDR4?
yes kissamies
I have two C612 systems and they're still ripping. Pretty great.
The beer on the side is like a reverse progression bar for the video, and you can see the stuff that has been shot at the beginning but edited in the middle of the video
*People already FORGOT how GOOD the RX 570 - RX 580 was, and still IS !* Back in the day, they were price to performance MONSTERS !
And even now, you can pick them up for 50 to 80 bucks ! They are STILL low budget KINGS ! EVEN the 'AMD fine wine' still works atm ! My RX-590 now, even BEATS the GTX 1070 !!!
I think the best use case if you need a platform with many cores over performance for multiple vms. Then again maybe a few high power cores might still run more efficiently than many "slow". Worth benching.
I'm stil rocking my FX-8350 with 24GB ram and RX590 8GB. I have a Phenom II X6 1100T running Ubuntu hosting my Plex and Docker setup. This is a fairly inexpensive upgrade that I'll mull over for a bit until it eats at me and I finally have to buy it. But honestly, my gaming is done on my Steam Deck.
~My system still gets some gaming use and is very similar to your BIL's. Let me know if you want benchmarks from this system.
its a well worth it upgrade if you get a deal on the chip and board
I have my OLD game rig still running as a linux learning pc. MSI 9900x, amd 8350, 16G ram, XFX rx 580 8gb and 500gb sata SSD and it does great via steam and older titles @ 1080p. I still enjoy tinkering with it to this day.
Note - some X79 MOBO's support NVME plugged, with a $10 adapter into a PCI-E slot. You can get well over 3GB/sec out of this. Tremendous boost over a 550MB/sec SSD or a 180MB/sec HD.
This board has an NVMe/SATA m.2 slot on it. Definitely a viable option for replacing storage.
nvme is pointless for games (so it is for most other tasks that don't involve moving or processing hefty loads of data). while switching from an hdd to a sata ssd decreases load times from like 1+ min to ~10-15 sec, sata ssd vs nvme ssd is like ~10-15 sec to 2-5 sec. yes, technically noticeable, but i'd say not worth it, especially on a budget system
Hey man there's nothing wrong with that FX8350. I still game Triple A games with it on my GTX560. I rock a max of 30 frames per frame in most games buddy
LMAO ! That is funny !
The x79 just keeps giving😂..
Only I'd have gotten the 2667 v2 instead; about 30% faster multicore and that's totally worth the extra $10.
Heh, I retired my FX-8150 rig that I bought on release day a long time ago. Of course, I'm nutty and I replaced it with a dual Opteron 8345 system - probably not the best idea, but it was a learning experience. That same FX-8150 has since been put back into service and runs my NAS, Plex server, and an Octoprint server for one of my 3D printers.
Thing is, if you went with intel for the same budget in 2012, you'd have ended up with a 2500k which would *also* desperately need an upgrade today. They aged about the same, with some games actually favoring the 8 threads on the FX.
THt said, X79 looks like a decent budget option to re-use that DDR3 memory. Especially if you can get a quad-channel board.
It's always nice to see new life in old hardware. I have an old MAXIMUS VII HERO I've been thinking of doing something with.
Those take the all-mighty i7-5775C.
...ok maybe not all-mighty, the clocks were ass but it was still basically the X3D of its era, and would make for an interesting throwback.
@@Fay7666 The MB has a i7-4970 in it; I'm just looking for a reasonable GPU.
he practically changed the entire PC, he only took the hdd/ssd and the ram from the old one....oo, and the PS also.
I use my fx8020 as a cheap file server with some 6gig refurbished enterprise drives. Three months ago I had to change out the stock fan cooler and now she runs like a champ.
This hurts me. An E5-1650 V2 is the same price as the E5-2647 v2 and can be pushed to an all core 4.0 to 4.2ghz+ on those boards (speaking from experience). I know it's not "a lot" more, but it really does help. I love these X79 combos and with the cypto crash you can really get a great gaming experience for sub $500.
yep, used this motherboard with the 1650v2 with 4.3Ghz no problem. But the 2647v2 has 25mb of cache, against 12mb on the 1650v2.
@@DanielGT_93 in gaming though that clock speed and faster ram is bigger then the cache no?
@@JC7119 Depend on the game. Remember the 5800X3D? its the 5800X with double the cache. Same situation with these xeons. It would be a nice comparision.
@@DanielGT_93 not sure it's the same in this case because the support ram speed is lower on the 2647. However I am well aware of the 5800X3D, I have one. I wish we could do a back to back comparison because I'm not sure 13mb of L3 would make that much of a difference in gaming. Video please Mr. Content creator 🤣
I’m an AMD fanboy, building and tweaking since the 90s.
The FX CPUs where horribly mediocre, especially compared to comparable Intel CPUs of the time and the previous Phenom II chips.
I’m very happy my family skipped bulldozer.
P.s. I have a kick ass Asus Crossblade ranger/APU(32gig)that I use every week. It’s awesome for burning cds & blue rays and generic use. 0:03
It... I thought this was an amd vid...
But e5... That's a Xeon... No way. That's awesome.
That's what I wanna make my first build with.. a Xeon.. any one of them.
if u want even cheaper but decent
Intel 4690k 16 GB ddr3 at 2133 gtx 980 u might find these old pre build for 100$ working and just need dusting
What about the lack of SSE and AVX2 instruction set extensions ?
get x99 instead, some Chinese x99 boards have DDR3 alongside DDR4
I have looked at these Xeon as something to keep the cost down but the rendering up however these are very much made for working from what I can tell or to be used in a lab.
My old FX8350 is under my stereo with 6x2tb drives in it, scored an old server 2U chassis from my brother and made it my media storage drive.
Jeff: "I'm gonna build another X79 system."
Me, crying: "Stop, stop! He's already dead."
I would love to have that system my first rig was a fx8350 i had kept it running until last year until mine got hit by lighting
Any videos on the arcade cab running in the background.
Still rocking what was sold as a FX6600 to me in the US. Replaced the MoBo, mix and match 14Gb of RAM, SSD+HDD, M.2 not working. And an RX 550 4Gb. I need it replaced so bad, basic tasks are starting to cause system freezes.
Mine Turbo's to 4.2Ghz tough. Even tough its true Identity is a mistery as 6600 does not exist. And my cooler is sticking out the case because i did not bother to measure the case!
When did AMD start using the same type memory as Intel? It has been a long while since I built an AMD system.
You could build a chinese x79 system every week. I love them. The V2 xeons are really cheap as you can see. I think they are still worth it!
My sons pc is still running a Phenom II x6...and he recently joined an esports league...this gave me some ideas
I’m currently running my home multi-VM proxmox server on a FX9590 kept alive from my old gaming setup. No good for gaming anymore, but runs my nas/plex/game host and a win10 vm just fine
That is surprisingly clean on the inside. I would have expected more from the road tracks it left on your legs.
This build perfectly highlights how frustrating my brother's stubbornness is. He's on a similarly dying AMD FX platform system, but he has a GTX 980Ti and 16GB of 1866 DDR3. Skipping doordash for a month would get him enough of an upgrade to run Warzone and Discord simultaneously, but he refused to put money into his system unless he can change out every single part down to the cables.
Damn :(
I just upgraded my Windows XP/10 machine from this very same CPU/Mobo/RAM combo to an ivy bridge i5, and it's similarly impressive. I'd imagine the Xeons are even better. What a legend of a platform.
Recently picked up a sabertooth x79 for $50. Excited to try x79 again
My brother got similar setup. Cheap x79 board, Xeon 2630 v2 and XFX RX580 2048sp.. Will upgrade soon his cpu to an 8 core E5 2667 v2
I have that same Gigabyte RX 570, but it doesn't seem to work. The fans kick on full speed and the system doesn't recognize it at all. Nice to know. I do get it fixed, it will run pretty decently
Still have a 8350 system in the house with the same AIO, paired with a 1060 after the 780 broke.
Watching this over a year later and thinking to myself this might make a cheap emulation build as the instruction sets for these CPU's (Ivy Bridge-EP at least) is satisfactory for RPCS3 and Xenia, however I cannot for the life of me find a 2647 V2 anywhere. Both eBay and AliExpress are turning up zilch! Here's hoping someone can suggest an alternative from the same gen/ codename line-up.
Edit: Ah, I see now you meant 2643 V2.
My FX8320 has been running without any problems with a 4.2ghz oc since 2012. All the hate aside it still won't die despite loads of neglect and abuse. It currently runs a nas 24/7. My intel x99 6800k (the pinnacle "upgrade" for the time) won't boot with xmp, constantly blue screens and has gone through two motherboards
I upgraded from X79 to X99. From E5-1680V2 (OC'd) with ASUS P9X79Pro and 4x8GB DDR3 1600 desktop ram and GTX1080Ti ... ... TO ... ... E5-2696V3 (turbo-unlocked) with X99TF and 4x8GB DDR4 3000 desktop ram and GTX1080Ti.
NO REGRETS.
X99 brings AVX2 instruction set. Runs cooler. Multi-tasks like a BEAST! Price for the 2696V3 was $51 (May '23). 4x8GB DDR4 3000 was $52 (second hand Corsair Vengeance).
I was getting up to 4.5Ghz all core with the 1680v2 on air...but the 2696v3 trounces it across the board, regardless of the lower single and multi-core clocks.
yeah, the 4GB RX 570 might not have been the best pick. Maybe the 8GB RX 580? Those are also cheap and plentiful on the used market, should be around $100.
If those Chinese boards would enable rebar. You can download a Registry change that enables sam on older amd gpus.
There are loads of dual xeon boards on aliexpress, jurat curious if you'd tried any, and how they fared on performance compared to single chip boards (I've got an old i5 4570)
Another nice video, I ordered a set myself. The CPU is tough to find at $16, it just takes a bit of patience. The motherboard is actually a bit cheaper right now.
One of my daughters gaming pc which I put together years ago is running a fx cpu with no issues at 1080, playing games like valiant and overwatch.... Keep thinking about upgrading it but don't see the point when they still do their job!.. This to me proves that you don't need to upgrade every generation of cpu, as even the older stuff still performs well... 👍
i'm still rocking an FX8350 @4.6Ghz with 32GB 1800 ddr3...asus crossfire IV formula, RX580 8g.
How's the Rogue IPA? Can't get it here in Texas yet, but I drink all the Dead Guy and Batsquatch I can get my hands on.
I went from an FX6300 with a gtx650ti to an I7 4790 with an RX560 4G.
Stellar values on E3 V3 chips, such as 1270v3 for $25 right now, or 1230,1231,1240,1241.
Platform is much cheaper, you may find socket 1150 boards being thrown away. 50% computational advantage on that FX chip. Some E3 V3 have onboard video too, usually the xxx5 and xxx6 models.
If you are going budget, depending on use case, there are H81 and B85, maybe even H87 and Z87 boards for $24 and up. If you are OK wiring an ACER OEM board to an ATX standard the boards are sometimes $13
E3 1270v3 Cinebench R15 single 153 and 742 multi
96 and 665 for an FX8350
Dont knock the fx8350, still a power house of a cpu, even if it shares the FPU's, remember the days when a FPU was an optional upgrade!
It was a great value CPU back in the day, but it's far from a powerhouse. It gets beaten out by 2.6GHz Nehalem chips from 2008 in IPC.
My daily is a Dell t5810 Xeon 2690v4, RTX 2080ti, 64gb ram beast. Second is a x58 with a Xeon W3680 with 980ti and 24gb ram for Xp, Vista and 7.
EXACTLY THE VIDEO I NEEDED THANK YOU
Many years ago, the first video I watched of yours was the "Piledriver, or just a Pile?" about an opteron server chip in a Chinese salvage board, how does that CPU compare to the FX one?
The FX 8350 is the same architecture, so think of this CPUs performance at 3.6GHz, and then run it at 2.2GHz.
This video was very interesting, and even got me considering to buy a x99 kit and reuse my ddr4 kit and cooler, my skylake i5 is simply not cutting it for me, and it is a bottleneck for my 1070.
I didn't get a check. But I just built a new rig in December. Still a great CPU in my book.
So I started with an i5 3570k and sli 760. In the same case(HAF XM). I upgraded to sli 980, a single GTX 1080. In same case upgraded to an R5 3600 with a b450 motherboard and 16 GB of memory. Then to a new case (Cooler Master H500 ARGB, same internals). In the end I have a R5 5600x (b550)with an Rx 6800xt. All in my second case CM H500. I'm hopping to wait for R5 8xxx cpus and Rx 8xxx GPUs.
back in the day I had an fx 8350 rig, with dual radeon hd 6850's in "crossfire"... then ugpraded to dual 6970's ... after that rig, I switched to intel and did not return to amd until ryzen 5000 series
I had dual HD7970's in crossfire with triple monitor setup! good times
Wouldn't a used Ryzen 2600 and b450 and cheap ddr4 be a longer live upgrade for nearly the same cost?
If you can find a 2600, B450 AND 16GB of DDR4 for $70, my inbox is always open.
I just did this for my son's computer. Slight upgrade on the Xeon ($20) and a used 1070 ($114). Going to make him put the parts in though.
Sounds like an awesome project!
That old mother board out of that PC would be perfect for what I wanna build
Can you put a referral link to the cooler in the description? I'm in need of some cheap 2011 compatible coolers and those would be _perfect._
What are these Chinese boards like at running Linux? I'm a relative noob, probably looking to go for Mint or similar, but I've got a project that will serve as the excuse I've been looking to tip my toe into the Linux pool?
AMD boards sometimes need CMOS voltage to boot. If battery is dead, no boot.
A new CR2023 battery is just 50 cents
x99 is in that 'comparable to current' territory now since the v4 Xeons support DDR4 and AVX2.
also its quad channel ddr4. faster then most ddr5 2 channel
v3s are also D4.
have you seen the e5-2667 v2 cpus.. 8 cores, and 4gHz turbo
I am running several i5 3rd/4th gen (H61/H81) systems with headless Debian. Does the job quite well.
If you are gaming consider splurging up to a 1070 or such, can be found for around $100. Go to a Haswell E3 1150 Xeon might make the difference up with a free or cheaper motherboard. If gaming you might be better off than with low end X79. Was your $55 board a 4 channel or a 2 channel?
I'm still running my FX-8350 as I type this. My Mobo is on its last leg. It suffers from thermal expansion, making the board a bit flakey, but only a bit. lol
it might be a better idea to go with a xeon v3, haswell has avx2, ivy bridge doesn´t.
I still use my I5 2500K, Asus motherboard, GTX 1060 . And wow, it's working just fine.