I have one of those Aliexpress remanufactured GPU. Paid 230$ shipped to Brazil for my RTX 3060 Ti, never had a problem with it, it runs cool and quiet GPU-Z detected as a MSI card. If the die is good but the rest of the components are worned out, remanufacturing it seems not only a good way to reduce e-waste but also to deliver cheap goods for people.
Yup, this is great. Only bad thing about it is when they try to scam people thinking its original hardware. Like they do with 4090s. With some transparancy in the marked, this could become a very good thing.
It was crazy that for a time, the 5700XT could be sold for over $1000 2 years after launch, and recently, about $160 just a few months after they were selling for $1000
@@odioalospoopers yeah it's really crazy. I'm happy that the 6700xt is in that $400 range now though. Don't want to see those crypto/scalper prices again.
@@Scitch87 People say that every time and yet after the dust dies down for a few years we go right back to it. Seems to be every-other generation anymore. I’m sure the next time crypto goes nuts people will be mining shitcoins again.
There is a webpage that details the differences on this card to the "usual" RX580.I have one arriveinan "ENVIDIA" box and it seems to work well . Just be aware another tech channel purchased a unit that came with a link to a driver that potentially has a mining bot included.
well, it should work with pure amd drivers, right? so it's better to download the official drivers than downloading a shady driver that the manufacturer wants you to install. still, for the price, just keep an eye for things like that, right?
my buddy bought this card just recently and I was the one that set it up. it's a really great option for the price at around $80, and it's a great thing that the price didn't climb when it was trending on social media. the weird thing is there is no undervolting states on the latest driver for this card for some reason?
I paid 150$ for an RX 580 8GB in 2019, new should I mention. I wish budget cards were better nowadays, but the only true replacement costs at least 200$ being a RX 6600.
I would agree that is possible but miners were paying big money for these things and im guessing nearly all of them ended up in mining farms even if they started life in a gaming rig. At $87 there isn’t much room to peel a gpu out of a board and put it in a new pcb, add new 8gb ram new fans and make a profit so I will continue to believe its somewhat recycled. Having said all that Id feel comfortable buying one. At that price really can’t lose.
@@evers6214 I'd get one too if I knew onyone who needed a solid entry level pc. The pc cafes were probably mining after hours, because they had the hardware.
@@evers6214 In the end, I couldnt find a 580 for anywhere near the price shown, so I ended up ordering a 5700xt for £175; it just arrived today, and looks immaculate, so either new, or with only the gpu die held over from the original. ("SOYO" branded) I'll be fitting it to my system for testing in a day or two - got a sick child to look after right now.
@@BeeWhere Not quite, it's a RX580 that is cut down and clocked higher. Sitting between a RX570 and a normal RX580. It should have been called a RX570XT.
I picked up one of these refurbished RX 580s. Mine's a SANSHUKU brand, the cooler is different, but an identical PCB. The backplate is also shorter and simpler in design. Great 1080p card for the price.
i have a xfx rx 580 8 GB and a HP RX 580 4GB and neither have any coil wine at all. If you get coil wine it is most likely due to the power in your house, not the GPU.
I actually like this little card, for budget builders this looks like a great option. I actually have my old Power Color Red Devil RX580 on a shelf and I gotta say, it is substantially bigger than the card you are showing, while also running hotter! lol. not bad for 100$ in my opinion!!!
one thing i noticed with my red devil, is the backplate is plastic, and therefor insulates the heat, and keeps it from leaving, it's not a huge deal, but it does make it run slightly hotter
@@PuppyGirl__Rosie really? that's interesting! I wish TH-cam would let me post a picture but my 580 red-devil has a plastic fan shroud but full metal backplate, the card itself weighs quite a bit for the size, but nothing to crazy. But building my sons computer with a 6700xt red devil, I remember thinking to myself that it was one of the most rugged cards I had held at the time with all the metal in it, very cool looking card as well!
Just found one (RX 580 msi armor 4g 2304sp) for $40 CAD at my local value village, works fine. Also found a gtx 950 and r9 280x at various thrift shops. Not sure why people give away their working gpus to thrift shops
Bought this card last month for my Mint install and everything seems to be working just fine. Was detected correctly right away and even some pretty new games run without no problem. One thing to note, though is that this needs an 8-pin power adapter. It comes with a 6-to-8 converter but I read that those aren't great to use, always better to have a power supply with the correct hookups.
before the crypto boom i bought a RX580 4gb for $60, but a "original" XFX one (just mined the shit out of it). Still running to today (after i mined with it all this bull run). Fun fact in 1080p playing valorant or LoL at high setting the fans rarely spin! Electronics rarely degrade, reducing e-waste is a good way to go. And in developing countries this cheap cards were not easy to buy. The market for this is huge and is very nice that can run a lot of games on 1080p
My MLLSE RX580 2048SP should actually get here tomorrow, which will be added to the HUANANZHI X99 QD4 E5-2620v3 16gb DDR4 kit I just got (which actually seems to work pretty well itself). Less than $300 CAD overall for what should be a decent little gaming system.
I am still using rx 570 that I got in 2019, then again I game on a 1366 768 monitor, so it should be good enough. Only thing I upgraded was my cpu and ram. Now my RX 570 can stretch its legs fully.
I bought one of these about 2 months back to build a gaming PC for my brother. I knew this card was OBVIOUSLY a stepdown from the 6900xt I have in my system, but I'm on a budget, and figure we can upgrade him later if we need to. And I'm very impressed with card. Like yours, drivers loaded with no issues, and it performs well. Even with a VR unit! I want to buy more of these cards to build more "beginner" or "budget friendly" gaming PCs for people.
@Sami I always preferred AMD over Nvidia. And from what I understand from benchmarks, the normal 580 is much better, so even this mildly stripped down version should still beat the 1030, and at less than 90 bucks for the card.
@@samisan774 Dude the 1030 is the worst GPU you can buy currently and it's also overpriced as heck. Even 1050 Ti is not great, lowest you should go is 1650.
It's impressive how well the RX580 has held up after all these years. I'm still using my RX590 and it's been a champ. Yeah, I'm not doing 4K gaming, but for everything else, it's solid. That line of GPUs will go down in history as one of the best budget offerings especially when it arrived in the era just as GPU prices began to spiral out of control.
I couldnt get a 580 anywhere near the price mentioned; in the end I ordered a SOYO branded RX 5700xt. It arrived looking immaculate, but there were issues straight out of the gate. Furmark - the hotspot jumped straight to 113C within a second, and started thermal throttling; while the fans were howling away with a metallic buzz. I tried the lower presets for Furmark and everything went exactly the same. Since I could detect some play in the heatsink/board (about 1-2mm of sideways movement from a fairly gentle twisting force), I stripped the board down. I found the gpu die was scratched, and that it had been polished to try and remove the scratch, no trace of the original AMD writing on the die remains. I fitted a Raijintek Morpheus cooler with a pair of Noctua NF-A12x15 FLX fans rated at 55.4 cfm/94.2 cmh (fixing the fans was a nightmare); after an issue with the new gpu bracket fouling a cap, I managed to get everything screwed down tight, and the main GPU temps were MUCH better, however the hotspot is still hitting 113 C within a few seconds and thermally throttling the gpu. Max GPU package temp under load now settles at 64C, while the Hotspot is thermally throttling at 113C. I had some TG Hydronaut arrive yesterday, so I am about to strip the card down, clean the die (again), and see if that helps. I COULD fit fans with a higher airflow, but a 40 degree differential between the hotspot and the rest of the die is way out of spec, so that needs addressing first. OK A FEW HOURS LATER. AM I allowed to swear ?? They ground the die down so far, a normal heatsink doesnt make proper contact; the one they fitted - which wasnt designed for the RX range, has a specially raised copper plate to make up the difference. I didnt notice this when I took it off originally, because there was so much thick thermal paste on it. So using Hydronaut, the heatsink and the die werent touching AT ALL. I have cleaned it off and applied MX4, which has helped a lot, but it is still hard throttling well below the maximum power, regularly dropping to below 100 watts from a max of 198 watts (TDP = 225) I still have that 40C differential as well, suggesting the die isnt flat, so I dont think bigger, faster, (nosier) fans are going to help much Is there such thing as a copper foil I could place between the die and the heatsink to make up for the difference between the original height and this ground down die height?
@@dennisg7309 I have bought some 0.3mm pure copper plate I am going to try - not sure if I should potentially waste any more thermal grizzly, or use the cheaper MX-3. Hopefully over the weekend - or Monday - depending on how I feel. I have multiple, NASTY medical conditions and am in a fair amount of pain.
Actually, for the RX 580 2048SP, they don't use that for mining. This version of RX 580 was specifically produced and sold for China's market and much of them now sold as second hand GPU for international market. Aisurix might've taken the bulk unused processors and manufactured it as their own products, seeming that RX 580 already being replaced by other value for money GPU in China.
Just got a 580 2048SP from ali for 60$, looks good, runs even better. Honestly expected much worse, got it for fun as an experiment to build an Ali pc.
I watched this video about 2 weeks ago and checked out a few others. So, I ordered one and it got here at 10 pm last night. And I could not wait to see what it would do in my PC. By midnight I had in the PC and so far, it is working. I know nothing about these things let alone what they can do. Other than games no one ever shows what else these cards can do. Since it can record games can they also record TV? I got this in hopes of speed up video editing. At any rate so far I like it, it is kind of fun to watch the task manager run. So far, the CPU usage has not gone above 40% before it was 65 or so. And the GPU 50% now. Before 80% or more. Like I said I just put this in last night, just need some time to see how well it will hold up. XFX580, 8Gig.
Yes these cards are built through maximum recycling, GPU, chipset, RAM and heatsink and probably other stuff like mosfets are another common recycled component. Certified Chinesium product, although even if it may not last more than a year it's good enough for the price
I have bought one on the 1st week of January of this year and it's been doing great for 6 months. I have seen no performance drop either. It's probably my luck anyway but I assure you.
I placed an order for one last night, woke up to a cancelation. I also see those motherboards have jumped in price. This guy finds some interesting deals in the China sites but you gotta be quick at it.
Yeah it says... the actual card send will contain a random RX5xxx RX4xxx so no telling what you are getting it seems.. which makes this 'deal' more like a gamble in your nearest casino.
This is in my desktop tower right now. 97 bucks off Amazon 5 months ago. I also grabbed the their RX 5700XT with 8GB for 129.00 2 months ago. It works just fine in a new build. But then in my gaming "rig" I am running the Powercolor RX7600 with 8GB from Microcenter 1 month ago for 229.00 it replaced the Powercolor RX6600 with 8GB.
About that graphics score in 3dmark and the CPU differences, In Firestrike my brother's RX 480 got 42 points less on the graphics score with an e3-1231 v3 than it did with my i7-11700f so your guess about it not making much difference, spot on.
Hahahah, the 580 is such a meme at this point :D "Go ahead, mock me with your Ray Tracing, mortal. It won't matter. For I am Polaris. I am infinite. I am eternal."
I'm curious as to where that heatsink came from. I know they're remanufactured cards but it sounds like they got a boatload of GPUs and just parted them all out and frankensteined together working cards. Their website says they sell 5500XTs as well as some nvidia cards, but they only have the 5500XT and the 580 available.
The memory is used too, the chinese manufacturers paint the surface to make it new and matched. It's a high risk lottery, repair shops don't even look these cards because they know it's unfixable (dead memory controller since it's stressed by mining)
I got me a new 6650XT here in China from a brand a never heard of, Peladn, for crazy good price. GPUZ confirmed its legit and performance is pretty good.
we have a small company for pc building here in asia and these RX 580 8gb cards are the current best sellers for budget 1080p gaming PCs. Nvidia and AMD, most users only want a 1080p card at $100. Make us a modern $100 card that performs like RX 580 8GB but a little more efficient
Worth noting, roughly 8 hours after this video was posted, the product page for the graphics card gave me a listed price of 120 EUR. Price hike due to increased sales after this video, or was the price raised before this video came out?
@@braddl9442 honestly, thanks for this hint - which actually might explain a lot of those question marks i repeatedly tend to have floating over my head - as EVERY "good value" alibaba item that i watched such review videos about skyrocketed in its price, even up to absolutely ridiculous pricings like these Erying i9 - boards, they now get offered for nearly triple the price they were at first. That's just nuts, asking 400$ and more for them seemed kind of cheeky to me till i saw your comment, but yeah, if it's automated price matching with the market request and people do still buy at those 'stock market gem prices', then i understand -and hate this annoying bate system 😕 still thx again for opening my eyes.
@@SianaGearz 🤔.. you mean if market demand goes back again also the prices getting lower, like back to what they were before ? Well, would be cool, agreed. What happens quite often is that the affiliate links from the video descrriptions are dead and lead nowhere anymore just after a few days, just had that several times with videos from ETA prime .. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with overseas sales people, often had kind contacts with Shenzhen sales agents. It's just this quick changing unreliable alibaba platform which forces such baiting methods
I wonder if the memory has been salvaged from another card as well. I don't think GDDR5 is manufactured new. Kind of sketch, I'd even trust a second hand card more, as long as it has a cooler which cools the memory IC's well.
I always like to take a look a gpuz (or cpuz in case of cpu). I always compare output to what other users have recorded, especially on stuff bought outside normal channels. Just good practice, I believe.
Great Job Sir. I am a little late to the party, sorry, but wanting to upgrade my Radeon Sapphire 460 (frame rate sucks on Steam games! 5fps just doesn't cut it anymore at half decent graphics :). Love your direct and down to earth evaluation. And breakdown. Keep up the outstanding work :)
I paid £45ish on Ali for my Lexindar version of this card, abs brand new no dust or sign of use, edge connector no sign of wear and thermal pasta was fresh too. I have also noted the cooler which is the exact same as yours seems to do a very very good job as even with a game chugging along full specs the fans just don't fire themselves up often and watching AMD's Adrenaline metrics I just can't seem to get the temp to peak over 50ish and I threw benchmarking, stressing progs at it but peaks about 50ish. I have since changed the thermal pasta for some HP phase change thermal material and temps even better.
Just found out when I took my mingzhou RX 580 card apart. That the one got was not an RX580 but an ex mining RX470 card made in 2017. I had truble when I tryed to over clock it but it only go up to a clock speed 1206 mhz 2000 mhz memory clock with no problms but go any higher then that and it do all sort of horible things If you get one they work ok but i change the paste
I have the SZMZ one, it does overheat a bit even with new thermal paste. But i feel like it's much weaker than other rx 580 cards i will try to benchmark it on timeapy
1200mhz seem low for rx580. My sapphire Nitro+ model.goes 1500mhz and consume 200w (with modded bios) wonder how much of a performance penalty you got from running at such low clocks and power target.
Cause it's not an RX-580. It's literally an RX-570 perhaps even slower than the RX-570 given how it's clocked at. But apparently their is this idea that they are "getting an RX-580 for less than 100 usd" and these chinese companies seems to be succeeding with that marketing ploy as every tech based yt channel seems to blatanly ignore the white elephant in the room that it's nothing but a basic version of the RX-570.
Looks like the one that you have there is actually pretty decent one. Some indoensian channel did a tear down a couple days ago and they found signs of scratches and solder oil marks which points out poor craft OR poor refurbish procedure
Just a thought. Combine that little motherboard with the laptop cpu on it from last week and this RX580 to make a brand new gaming PC for around $350. I was nosing around Ali Express and there was a seller that was bundling the Eyring motherboard with 16GB of memory and a 500GB M.2 as a package for $250. Throw in a basic case and a 500W PSU and your done.
Sold my RX580 at the peak.. I don't remember all the numbers but I know I was lucky enough to find a RTX 3060 Ti at Microcenter. In the end the upgrade cost me only $150. They should call it a 580LE. That would align with what they are trying to do.
Lol.. I friend of a friend gave me a box of computer parts (their 10yo ordered) In it was a RX 580 from Aisurix.. It is working.. The motherboard is a 4th gen I5.. It runs surprisingly well.. Doom Eternal runs - I think it was getting around 100FPS in heaven..
I tried out there version one I got it off Amazon back in Dec eorked well missing the back plate worked the same but I live in a area were we have power outages from high wind and fried mine the first power outage we had
Great informative video, my man. I got one off Ama#$& for $94.00 with one day shipping. Yes, it was one of those Chinese RX 580's, but it does very well for under $100. I would agree it's similar to the RX 570 GPU. Some say it's a RX 575, maybe a closer point. Either way good and sould GPU for a affordable price. Not all of these cards are good. I ordered one from online store which I knew wasn't a true RX 580, but dang this registered as a RX 470. Dang! . So be careful on these cards.
could you grab a backup of the bios for this card i have the same card id like to reflash the bios to got it running a little slower on a bios for an rx570 with no uhd option
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I have one of those Aliexpress remanufactured GPU. Paid 230$ shipped to Brazil for my RTX 3060 Ti, never had a problem with it, it runs cool and quiet GPU-Z detected as a MSI card. If the die is good but the rest of the components are worned out, remanufacturing it seems not only a good way to reduce e-waste but also to deliver cheap goods for people.
Yup, this is great. Only bad thing about it is when they try to scam people thinking its original hardware. Like they do with 4090s.
With some transparancy in the marked, this could become a very good thing.
We're going to need a new category for new, used, etc. called "Re-Manufactured"
"Restored"?
It's called Refurbished
@@MiGujack3 I wouldn't necessarily call replacing everything except the chip a simple refurbish, but I guess most would probably agree.
Recondition?
Sponsored by the band Fear Factory
For under $100 I don't see anything to complain about, decent 1080 performance. Nice compact size and very good cooling considering that small size.
Missing a -p there, I was confused for a second :D
@@mito-pb8qg yep, even with cannot be optimized anymore GTX 1080, it will still faster
It was crazy that for a time, the 5700XT could be sold for over $1000 2 years after launch, and recently, about $160 just a few months after they were selling for $1000
It really was a crazy time. I remember selling my "old" RX 5700XT for $1000 and being able to buy a new RX 6700XT for the same price right after.
Still a great card
@@Scitch87 and now those same 6700XT can be found in the $400 range. Crypto was a weeeeird time for pc purchasing
@@odioalospoopers yeah it's really crazy. I'm happy that the 6700xt is in that $400 range now though. Don't want to see those crypto/scalper prices again.
@@Scitch87 People say that every time and yet after the dust dies down for a few years we go right back to it. Seems to be every-other generation anymore. I’m sure the next time crypto goes nuts people will be mining shitcoins again.
There is a webpage that details the differences on this card to the "usual" RX580.I have one arriveinan "ENVIDIA" box and it seems to work well . Just be aware another tech channel purchased a unit that came with a link to a driver that potentially has a mining bot included.
well, it should work with pure amd drivers, right? so it's better to download the official drivers than downloading a shady driver that the manufacturer wants you to install. still, for the price, just keep an eye for things like that, right?
I have this card, downloaded the drivers directly from AMD @@SrPequenoRato
i think u have to install the box drivers to even get the official drivers eto look at the card from a few other vids i have watched.@@SrPequenoRato
my buddy bought this card just recently and I was the one that set it up.
it's a really great option for the price at around $80, and it's a great thing that the price didn't climb when it was trending on social media.
the weird thing is there is no undervolting states on the latest driver for this card for some reason?
I always liked the rx580. I decided to go with a 5600 I found for under $200. It exceeded my expectations.
"chip RX 580/570/574/470/474 send randomly" in the gpu description of the aliexpress link, very funny
I paid 150$ for an RX 580 8GB in 2019, new should I mention.
I wish budget cards were better nowadays, but the only true replacement costs at least 200$ being a RX 6600.
*$225 usd from retailers, about $30 less than 6600xt. Honestly the 6600 should be about $150-180.
I wouldn’t touch Aliexpress with a 10foot pole.
@@robertt9342 Why not? It's really not that different from Amazon lol.
I am fairly certain this version of the 580 was an official version produced for the Chinese market, so possibly not a re-purposed mining card.
I remember the same, it's a 570 named 580 that was marketed in China to pc gaming cafes
I would agree that is possible but miners were paying big money for these things and im guessing nearly all of them ended up in mining farms even if they started life in a gaming rig.
At $87 there isn’t much room to peel a gpu out of a board and put it in a new pcb, add new 8gb ram new fans and make a profit so I will continue to believe its somewhat recycled.
Having said all that Id feel comfortable buying one. At that price really can’t lose.
@@evers6214 I'd get one too if I knew onyone who needed a solid entry level pc. The pc cafes were probably mining after hours, because they had the hardware.
@@evers6214 In the end, I couldnt find a 580 for anywhere near the price shown, so I ended up ordering a 5700xt for £175; it just arrived today, and looks immaculate, so either new, or with only the gpu die held over from the original.
("SOYO" branded)
I'll be fitting it to my system for testing in a day or two - got a sick child to look after right now.
@@BeeWhere Not quite, it's a RX580 that is cut down and clocked higher. Sitting between a RX570 and a normal RX580. It should have been called a RX570XT.
I picked up one of these refurbished RX 580s. Mine's a SANSHUKU brand, the cooler is different, but an identical PCB. The backplate is also shorter and simpler in design. Great 1080p card for the price.
Same. Its a good value for 100 bucks esp if your set your expectations on 1080p gaming.
144p
@@samisan774 huh? The 580 and 570 are still pretty competent 1080p cards.
i have a xfx rx 580 8 GB and a HP RX 580 4GB and neither have any coil wine at all. If you get coil wine it is most likely due to the power in your house, not the GPU.
I actually like this little card, for budget builders this looks like a great option. I actually have my old Power Color Red Devil RX580 on a shelf and I gotta say, it is substantially bigger than the card you are showing, while also running hotter! lol. not bad for 100$ in my opinion!!!
one thing i noticed with my red devil, is the backplate is plastic, and therefor insulates the heat, and keeps it from leaving, it's not a huge deal, but it does make it run slightly hotter
@@PuppyGirl__Rosie really? that's interesting! I wish TH-cam would let me post a picture but my 580 red-devil has a plastic fan shroud but full metal backplate, the card itself weighs quite a bit for the size, but nothing to crazy. But building my sons computer with a 6700xt red devil, I remember thinking to myself that it was one of the most rugged cards I had held at the time with all the metal in it, very cool looking card as well!
@@edlebrock3501i sir are interested to sell your old rx 580 graphic card for me
the video card that refuses to die
Just found one (RX 580 msi armor 4g 2304sp) for $40 CAD at my local value village, works fine. Also found a gtx 950 and r9 280x at various thrift shops. Not sure why people give away their working gpus to thrift shops
you should check the 5500XT this brand made. its excellent
considering that's the lower variant of the 580, that's a great budget option for people like me who own a low end gpu and want to upgrade asap
Bought this card last month for my Mint install and everything seems to be working just fine. Was detected correctly right away and even some pretty new games run without no problem. One thing to note, though is that this needs an 8-pin power adapter. It comes with a 6-to-8 converter but I read that those aren't great to use, always better to have a power supply with the correct hookups.
before the crypto boom i bought a RX580 4gb for $60, but a "original" XFX one (just mined the shit out of it). Still running to today (after i mined with it all this bull run). Fun fact in 1080p playing valorant or LoL at high setting the fans rarely spin!
Electronics rarely degrade, reducing e-waste is a good way to go. And in developing countries this cheap cards were not easy to buy. The market for this is huge and is very nice that can run a lot of games on 1080p
Bro Rafa how much hashrate you got in this card?
never knew you have reviewed this. was just lazy to search and then youtube recommended. thanks for this.
My MLLSE RX580 2048SP should actually get here tomorrow, which will be added to the HUANANZHI X99 QD4 E5-2620v3 16gb DDR4 kit I just got (which actually seems to work pretty well itself). Less than $300 CAD overall for what should be a decent little gaming system.
Really good pc components cost so little these days. Stuff from 2018 is still doing amazing. What a great time
Thinking of doing the same but with ghe 2670v2
I am still using rx 570 that I got in 2019, then again I game on a 1366 768 monitor, so it should be good enough. Only thing I upgraded was my cpu and ram. Now my RX 570 can stretch its legs fully.
Based on price/performance I already recommend one of these to a friend and I might buy more then one for meshroom
I bought one of these about 2 months back to build a gaming PC for my brother. I knew this card was OBVIOUSLY a stepdown from the 6900xt I have in my system, but I'm on a budget, and figure we can upgrade him later if we need to.
And I'm very impressed with card. Like yours, drivers loaded with no issues, and it performs well. Even with a VR unit! I want to buy more of these cards to build more "beginner" or "budget friendly" gaming PCs for people.
1030 for entry level beginner cards..
@Sami I always preferred AMD over Nvidia. And from what I understand from benchmarks, the normal 580 is much better, so even this mildly stripped down version should still beat the 1030, and at less than 90 bucks for the card.
@@samisan774 Dude the 1030 is the worst GPU you can buy currently and it's also overpriced as heck. Even 1050 Ti is not great, lowest you should go is 1650.
@@FynnR 1630? Jokes :)..
@@samisan774 Hopefully ;)
Great review Jeff. you've gotten good at this TH-cam stuff!
It's impressive how well the RX580 has held up after all these years. I'm still using my RX590 and it's been a champ. Yeah, I'm not doing 4K gaming, but for everything else, it's solid. That line of GPUs will go down in history as one of the best budget offerings especially when it arrived in the era just as GPU prices began to spiral out of control.
I wanted 590, but it was too expensive, but then again I was gaming on 1366 768 monitor, so a 570 alone would be overkill
I couldnt get a 580 anywhere near the price mentioned; in the end I ordered a SOYO branded RX 5700xt.
It arrived looking immaculate, but there were issues straight out of the gate.
Furmark - the hotspot jumped straight to 113C within a second, and started thermal throttling; while the fans were howling away with a metallic buzz.
I tried the lower presets for Furmark and everything went exactly the same.
Since I could detect some play in the heatsink/board (about 1-2mm of sideways movement from a fairly gentle twisting force), I stripped the board down.
I found the gpu die was scratched, and that it had been polished to try and remove the scratch, no trace of the original AMD writing on the die remains.
I fitted a Raijintek Morpheus cooler with a pair of Noctua NF-A12x15 FLX fans rated at 55.4 cfm/94.2 cmh (fixing the fans was a nightmare); after an issue with the new gpu bracket fouling a cap, I managed to get everything screwed down tight, and the main GPU temps were MUCH better, however the hotspot is still hitting 113 C within a few seconds and thermally throttling the gpu.
Max GPU package temp under load now settles at 64C, while the Hotspot is thermally throttling at 113C.
I had some TG Hydronaut arrive yesterday, so I am about to strip the card down, clean the die (again), and see if that helps.
I COULD fit fans with a higher airflow, but a 40 degree differential between the hotspot and the rest of the die is way out of spec, so that needs addressing first.
OK A FEW HOURS LATER.
AM I allowed to swear ??
They ground the die down so far, a normal heatsink doesnt make proper contact; the one they fitted - which wasnt designed for the RX range, has a specially raised copper plate to make up the difference.
I didnt notice this when I took it off originally, because there was so much thick thermal paste on it.
So using Hydronaut, the heatsink and the die werent touching AT ALL.
I have cleaned it off and applied MX4, which has helped a lot, but it is still hard throttling well below the maximum power, regularly dropping to below 100 watts from a max of 198 watts (TDP = 225)
I still have that 40C differential as well, suggesting the die isnt flat, so I dont think bigger, faster, (nosier) fans are going to help much
Is there such thing as a copper foil I could place between the die and the heatsink to make up for the difference between the original height and this ground down die height?
Art supply stores sell gold foil perhaps they also have copper foil. Aluminum foil would be an improvement for you if you do not find copper.
@@dennisg7309 I have bought some 0.3mm pure copper plate I am going to try - not sure if I should potentially waste any more thermal grizzly, or use the cheaper MX-3.
Hopefully over the weekend - or Monday - depending on how I feel.
I have multiple, NASTY medical conditions and am in a fair amount of pain.
can get it to run right around 50 degrees Celsius if you undervolt it. doesnt effect performace too much either
Actually, for the RX 580 2048SP, they don't use that for mining. This version of RX 580 was specifically produced and sold for China's market and much of them now sold as second hand GPU for international market. Aisurix might've taken the bulk unused processors and manufactured it as their own products, seeming that RX 580 already being replaced by other value for money GPU in China.
Just got a 580 2048SP from ali for 60$, looks good, runs even better.
Honestly expected much worse, got it for fun as an experiment to build an Ali pc.
I love your cat
I think they send you one with better thermal paste and pads, as seen they scrapped off the old paste there..
I got mine running at 65 to 70 degree..
I watched this video about 2 weeks ago and checked out a few others. So, I ordered one and it got here at 10 pm last night. And I could not wait to see what it would do in my PC. By midnight I had in the PC and so far, it is working. I know nothing about these things let alone what they can do. Other than games no one ever shows what else these cards can do. Since it can record games can they also record TV? I got this in hopes of speed up video editing. At any rate so far I like it, it is kind of fun to watch the task manager run. So far, the CPU usage has not gone above 40% before it was 65 or so. And the GPU 50% now. Before 80% or more. Like I said I just put this in last night, just need some time to see how well it will hold up. XFX580, 8Gig.
21:40 JEFF is gonna open a BAR.....🍻🍺🍹🍷🍾🍶🥃🧉😂🤣
JEFF was you a BAR TENDER before......!!!!
Can’t argue against pairing it with the Errying…
these are one of my go to's for a budget pc build. cheap and can give a good playable machine.
Yes these cards are built through maximum recycling, GPU, chipset, RAM and heatsink and probably other stuff like mosfets are another common recycled component. Certified Chinesium product, although even if it may not last more than a year it's good enough for the price
I have bought one on the 1st week of January of this year and it's been doing great for 6 months. I have seen no performance drop either. It's probably my luck anyway but I assure you.
I placed an order for one last night, woke up to a cancelation. I also see those motherboards have jumped in price. This guy finds some interesting deals in the China sites but you gotta be quick at it.
1:30 I bought one exactly like that from Aliexpress just days before the mining craze
Yeah it says... the actual card send will contain a random RX5xxx RX4xxx so no telling what you are getting it seems.. which makes this 'deal' more like a gamble in your nearest casino.
This is in my desktop tower right now. 97 bucks off Amazon 5 months ago. I also grabbed the their RX 5700XT with 8GB for 129.00 2 months ago. It works just fine in a new build. But then in my gaming "rig" I am running the Powercolor RX7600 with 8GB from Microcenter 1 month ago for 229.00 it replaced the Powercolor RX6600 with 8GB.
That link leads to a totally different GPU...
About that graphics score in 3dmark and the CPU differences, In Firestrike my brother's RX 480 got 42 points less on the graphics score with an e3-1231 v3 than it did with my i7-11700f so your guess about it not making much difference, spot on.
I vote for the cute kitty doing the intros now lol
Now you are learning the key to TH-cam success, Kitties!
Hahahah, the 580 is such a meme at this point :D "Go ahead, mock me with your Ray Tracing, mortal. It won't matter. For I am Polaris. I am infinite. I am eternal."
$87 is great....but what computer does it fit. Do you have to build a power station
I'm curious as to where that heatsink came from. I know they're remanufactured cards but it sounds like they got a boatload of GPUs and just parted them all out and frankensteined together working cards. Their website says they sell 5500XTs as well as some nvidia cards, but they only have the 5500XT and the 580 available.
yo la compre a 120 usd estoy esperando que aun llegue , tenia miedo, pero este video me hizo estar mas tranquilo. veremos como continua esto..
Best intro ever!
Right before this video started an ad for Mint Mobile ran. When you said "as always.. I'm not Ryan Reynolds" I almost lost it😂
its very difficult to tell if it was internet cafe or remade. super cool, unique to other markets like the R5 3500 6c 6 t cpu
The memory is used too, the chinese manufacturers paint the surface to make it new and matched. It's a high risk lottery, repair shops don't even look these cards because they know it's unfixable (dead memory controller since it's stressed by mining)
nobody sends a 100-200$ card to a repair shop anyway, the price to work on it would be higher than the cost of buying another one.
@@marcogenovesi8570 I'm not talking only about this model and in major part of the world people do
@@phgodts people in the rest of the world like repairing stuff even when it is cheaper to get a new one? Doubt it.
@Marco Genovesi Where I live the labor on repairing this card would be about 10 bucks.
"dead memory controller since its stressed by mining" I've never read anything stupider about gpu
I got me a new 6650XT here in China from a brand a never heard of, Peladn, for crazy good price. GPUZ confirmed its legit and performance is pretty good.
ROFL - Not Ryan Reynolds got me.
FSR has been one of the most amazing innovations for gaming in a long time.
it pairs well with a cheap x79 board and a 2697v2
Got me a gamerevolution recycled rx 580 for $60 new, hyped to test it
AMD sold rx570 as 580, you can upload 580 bios on this card. Or just overclock it as runs so cool
So, you mentioned the 51risc card...it's currently on Newegg pretty cheap..i hadve it in my cart..reconsidering after your comment about drivers
Oh, come on... Juice the whole god damn lemon! It's always half a lemon!
we have a small company for pc building here in asia and these RX 580 8gb cards are the current best sellers for budget 1080p gaming PCs.
Nvidia and AMD, most users only want a 1080p card at $100. Make us a modern $100 card that performs like RX 580 8GB but a little more efficient
It blows my mind this video is released today. This is what the card used to cost pre lockdown on ali.
Worth noting, roughly 8 hours after this video was posted, the product page for the graphics card gave me a listed price of 120 EUR. Price hike due to increased sales after this video, or was the price raised before this video came out?
its usually automated. like all the sudden they get 20 orders for the card it prob ticks up 10 bucks at a time.
@@braddl9442 honestly, thanks for this hint - which actually might explain a lot of those question marks i repeatedly tend to have floating over my head - as EVERY "good value" alibaba item that i watched such review videos about skyrocketed in its price, even up to absolutely ridiculous pricings like these Erying i9 - boards, they now get offered for nearly triple the price they were at first. That's just nuts, asking 400$ and more for them seemed kind of cheeky to me till i saw your comment, but yeah, if it's automated price matching with the market request and people do still buy at those 'stock market gem prices', then i understand -and hate this annoying bate system 😕 still thx again for opening my eyes.
@@nopadelik9286 oh the price is bound to relax eventually.
@@SianaGearz 🤔.. you mean if market demand goes back again also the prices getting lower, like back to what they were before ? Well, would be cool, agreed. What happens quite often is that the affiliate links from the video descrriptions are dead and lead nowhere anymore just after a few days, just had that several times with videos from ETA prime ..
Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with overseas sales people, often had kind contacts with Shenzhen sales agents. It's just this quick changing unreliable alibaba platform which forces such baiting methods
I wonder if the memory has been salvaged from another card as well. I don't think GDDR5 is manufactured new. Kind of sketch, I'd even trust a second hand card more, as long as it has a cooler which cools the memory IC's well.
I always like to take a look a gpuz (or cpuz in case of cpu).
I always compare output to what other users have recorded, especially on stuff bought outside normal channels.
Just good practice, I believe.
Great Job Sir. I am a little late to the party, sorry, but wanting to upgrade my Radeon Sapphire 460 (frame rate sucks on Steam games! 5fps just doesn't cut it anymore at half decent graphics :). Love your direct and down to earth evaluation. And breakdown. Keep up the outstanding work :)
4:20 man you gotta download the drives from Erying to get rid of those error messages.
good news for gamers and good coctail as well.
I paid £45ish on Ali for my Lexindar version of this card, abs brand new no dust or sign of use, edge connector no sign of wear and thermal pasta was fresh too. I have also noted the cooler which is the exact same as yours seems to do a very very good job as even with a game chugging along full specs the fans just don't fire themselves up often and watching AMD's Adrenaline metrics I just can't seem to get the temp to peak over 50ish and I threw benchmarking, stressing progs at it but peaks about 50ish. I have since changed the thermal pasta for some HP phase change thermal material and temps even better.
Just found out when I took my mingzhou RX 580 card apart. That the one got was not an RX580 but an ex mining RX470 card made in 2017. I had truble when I tryed to over clock it but it only go up to a clock speed 1206 mhz 2000 mhz memory clock with no problms but go any higher then that and it do all sort of horible things If you get one they work ok but i change the paste
I have the SZMZ one, it does overheat a bit even with new thermal paste. But i feel like it's much weaker than other rx 580 cards i will try to benchmark it on timeapy
1200mhz seem low for rx580. My sapphire Nitro+ model.goes 1500mhz and consume 200w (with modded bios) wonder how much of a performance penalty you got from running at such low clocks and power target.
Apparently around 300mhz
Cause it's not an RX-580. It's literally an RX-570 perhaps even slower than the RX-570 given how it's clocked at. But apparently their is this idea that they are "getting an RX-580 for less than 100 usd" and these chinese companies seems to be succeeding with that marketing ploy as every tech based yt channel seems to blatanly ignore the white elephant in the room that it's nothing but a basic version of the RX-570.
I've got one of these on my second pc with a 6700k and it gets between 3900 and 4000 graphic score on time spy.
Looks like the one that you have there is actually pretty decent one. Some indoensian channel did a tear down a couple days ago and they found signs of scratches and solder oil marks which points out poor craft OR poor refurbish procedure
Just a thought. Combine that little motherboard with the laptop cpu on it from last week and this RX580 to make a brand new gaming PC for around $350.
I was nosing around Ali Express and there was a seller that was bundling the Eyring motherboard with 16GB of memory and a 500GB M.2 as a package for $250. Throw in a basic case and a 500W PSU and your done.
Sold my RX580 at the peak.. I don't remember all the numbers but I know I was lucky enough to find a RTX 3060 Ti at Microcenter. In the end the upgrade cost me only $150.
They should call it a 580LE. That would align with what they are trying to do.
I had mentioned calling it a 570XT, but also calling it a 580LE would have been appropriate.
Must be an running a modded BIOS with lower clock speeds to avoid thermal throttling. Other than that, re-used Sapphire OEM PCB.
I just bought the Arktek Cyclops RX 580 8GB 256 bit V2 for $100 with shipping. On the pcb it says RX 480 V1.0. Was I scammed?
Lol.. I friend of a friend gave me a box of computer parts (their 10yo ordered) In it was a RX 580 from Aisurix.. It is working.. The motherboard is a 4th gen I5.. It runs surprisingly well.. Doom Eternal runs - I think it was getting around 100FPS in heaven..
Good choice of vga..but disgusting games..kill stab violence blood war etc..
this might be perfect for my budget VM PC build
I just bought this and stress test for 2hours using furmark i dont encounter any issues yet
I tried out there version one I got it off Amazon back in Dec eorked well missing the back plate worked the same but I live in a area were we have power outages from high wind and fried mine the first power outage we had
But will it Crossfire? With a regular rx 580 I mean.
I have the 2048sp version. It’s a bit underwhelming as it hasn’t hit 60fps in Diablo 4 medium
put this up against the gtx 1650 and it makes a very good option for a budget
The RX 580 is still a great 1080P Medium detail card.
should have run it stock clocks(overclock) to test for silicon degradation.
Great informative video, my man. I got one off Ama#$& for $94.00 with one day shipping. Yes, it was one of those Chinese RX 580's, but it does very well for under $100. I would agree it's similar to the RX 570 GPU. Some say it's a RX 575, maybe a closer point. Either way good and sould GPU for a affordable price. Not all of these cards are good. I ordered one from online store which I knew wasn't a true RX 580, but dang this registered as a RX 470. Dang! . So be careful on these cards.
should i buy this new gpu or an ex-mining xfx rx 580? they're both at the same price here.
They're both Chinese brand so pick the new one.
Bought the rx 590 pulse for 120€. Kicks ass
I saw the Aviation Gin and though Ryan Reynolds would pop out somewhere.
I didn’t notice did you say the power usage? Is it the same as the original 580’s?
That cooler looks like the one on a Gigabyte RX580 card that I have
im still running a rx580, a 3060, a 1030, a 710 a quadro 640, weird setup we got here.
As always! I'm not Ryan! Love it!!!
Great review, thank you so much. I will get one for my kid's pc.
I see that same page has a 1660TI but with 6GB at $160, do you think its worth it?
could you grab a backup of the bios for this card i have the same card id like to reflash the bios to got it running a little slower on a bios for an rx570 with no uhd option
What would be the best Intel cpu to pair?
yes or no, are they used? i can't risk buying a used gpu what if it dies after 6 months.
I had a Sapphire RX580 in my HTPC for a while. Screamed like a banshee when gaming.