it's awesome seeing these guys go 2v2. they seem so good but out of their element. and yet finding some special combos we never considered. the rare organic feel from the pros!
I'm hoping this means that we might get an actual Random player at the pro level within the next year or two. It would be interesting to see how the RvX early-game metagames develop given that the Random player always starts out ahead (due to having the advantage of knowing the opponent's race) or if it's just going to become a cheese party to exploit the non-Random player's scouting disadvantage.
Love seeing a squad of marines running across the map with a bane in the middle of them like: "Come on little buddy, this way! Who's a good boi? Yeah, we're gonna blow up some probes, aren't we?"
It makes sense that Zerg is rough, when a team's bases are right on top of the teammates bases. So it makes sense that Pro Zerg would play off race on those maps, but bring the A-game when the map allows it.
The chaos slof 2v2 of having to keep in mind of two different races of your opponents that have different units and builds amd having to communicate with a teammate at the same time.
Great video, very refreshing! It seems that producing more units at the start is better than teching up, because the horde is twice as big and they can focus one enemy and overwelm. Interesting to see how the strategy changes in other games.
Love these 2v2s, thank you for casting them! I think it will be really sickl if Byun started making medivacs to heal Dark's units, for example in the final game if Dark had some medivacs healing his roaches, his attack would have been even deadlier XD Q: can medivacs heal zerg sky units?
ahhh, this'll be good I was thinking of a off-race tournament right before Lowko said anything, lol. that would be great to watch 30:12 Widow mines can't fire if a force field is above them?!?! I mean, it makes sense, but....
Lowko: "Banshees aren't really fighting units" Me: *looking at Uthermal's latest sky terrain video on my recommended* "Peasant! you simply no not the potential of the Banshee"
Makes sense about 2v2. You have to split your brain power in which your muscle memory is in 1v1 and does not include talking to someone and taking into account what they would do.
LMAO i loved your comments in Harstems live stream lol your the best Lowko .. lol watching my fav protoss and reading from my fav game caster lol you guys going back and forth is amazing for us fans
The skill in 2v2 ladder is weird, because it coincides with 1v1 pretty closely until about diamond 1, then almost everyone you play is high master or grandmaster.
I always found it kinda weird that 2v2 never caught on back in Broodwar, unlike 1v1 most games of 2v2 were fairly insane since they almost always played out as rushing 1 player and the entire game hinges on how well they can hang on, as a result nearly every 2v2 game that isn't just a complete stomp was a nailbiter with action usually starting clear back at a 4-6pool or equivalent. between that and just how much communication and cordination between teammates mattered it usually made for a great show...also had some surprising results since skill as a team was so important you'd get stuff like some random duo who are individually ladder nobodies consistently winning against temporary teams of world class players like Light or Flash or Boxxor. my best (and frankly only) real guess is the fact that it was a LOT easier to look like an idiot when trying to cast a 2v2
For the most part tournaments usually only allow you to signup with one race, although there have been instances like in MLG where people are aloud to be a "switch hitter" player and play different races based on what the opponent was playing. This is very hard to do though so it’s understandable why it doesn’t happen all the time. Scarlet and Reynor are doing it lately though
South Korea definitely had americas number on this one. Way improved from the last one I saw. I don’t think it was ever competitive in any of these matches. GG to SK.
So double protoss co-op battles on teh same side, should play all pylons like creep, and expand with shield batteries... the double synergy and immense abiltiy to warp in anywhere is quite great.... do slow warp ins outside of vision, lol
Years after quitting Starcraft 2 I have accepted that Starcraft 2 has never been a balanced game and Blizzard never cared about making a balanced game.
hey Lowko, stop putting your youtube like and next video at the end of the video or at least have a 5 minutes buffer at the end. It is really annoying at the end and spoil the out come of the match.
I love love love the 2v2! Its refreshing and not so chaotic as 3v3+
More 2vs2 please please please!!!
it's awesome seeing these guys go 2v2. they seem so good but out of their element. and yet finding some special combos we never considered. the rare organic feel from the pros!
At 29:55, ByuN's marines are the carrier to the royal baneling. 👑 Eventually, the baneling decides to move for its self. :)
I'm hoping this means that we might get an actual Random player at the pro level within the next year or two. It would be interesting to see how the RvX early-game metagames develop given that the Random player always starts out ahead (due to having the advantage of knowing the opponent's race) or if it's just going to become a cheese party to exploit the non-Random player's scouting disadvantage.
Yes, I second what others have said, it's very refreshing to see some pro 2v2, the dynamic is not the same! Keep them coming Lowko!!
I look forward to your videos every day. Always fun to watch and the commentary is always excellent (even when off topic).
and his hair is so sniffable.
@@forevergogo Random....
This was the smoothest 2v2 cast so far! I’d love to see a FFA again in the future
Love seeing a squad of marines running across the map with a bane in the middle of them like: "Come on little buddy, this way! Who's a good boi? Yeah, we're gonna blow up some probes, aren't we?"
Those Marines playing straws for the last food ration was pretty funny XD
It makes sense that Zerg is rough, when a team's bases are right on top of the teammates bases. So it makes sense that Pro Zerg would play off race on those maps, but bring the A-game when the map allows it.
Me: Hey Lowko! How’s the weather there today?
Lowko: Left, Right, and Center
thanks for putting the 2 vs 2 on youtube
It's nice that the introduction doesn't have the observer's interface!
The chaos slof 2v2 of having to keep in mind of two different races of your opponents that have different units and builds amd having to communicate with a teammate at the same time.
How hard is it to press the Like button of these amazing videos??
Ikr 3k views 200 likes
As hard as microing ghosts duh 😂🤣
You need at least 400 APM to do that correctly while in the middle of an engangement
Great video, very refreshing! It seems that producing more units at the start is better than teching up, because the horde is twice as big and they can focus one enemy and overwelm. Interesting to see how the strategy changes in other games.
I'm really enjoying this 2v2! Thx Lowko!!!
I loved the player intros. It's so much chaos and made me laugh.
Lowko : "just press Alt+F"
My brain : "press Alt+F4"
Zerg does suck in team games. Creep blocks your allies, you're almost forced to go all zerg
beautiful! i wish there were real 2v2 tournaments.
I wish for more coop stuff 🥺
Love these 2v2s, thank you for casting them! I think it will be really sickl if Byun started making medivacs to heal Dark's units, for example in the final game if Dark had some medivacs healing his roaches, his attack would have been even deadlier XD
Q: can medivacs heal zerg sky units?
A: Yes. Medivac+Mutalisk quite OP!
Good for Byun. He kinda got embarrassed last match
Lowko! What a beautiful match and your commentary per usual is on fleeeeeeek! Thanks as always brethren. Keep them 2v2 coming!
Zergs sucks in 2v2 cuz your creep affects your ally (unless both are zerg) but in that case you'll be missing synergies from races :)
They aren’t wrong. Zerg does not play nice with others because of the creep.
Then a 2v2 with one team having two zerg vs a Protoss and Terran
ahhh, this'll be good
I was thinking of a off-race tournament right before Lowko said anything, lol. that would be great to watch
30:12 Widow mines can't fire if a force field is above them?!?! I mean, it makes sense, but....
2v2!!! Love these vids
There is a secret rush for the best random player title.
As someone who mostly plays 2v2 these games have been fun to watch
Same - agree. I'm curious if the pro players are aware of the one or two exploitable (and annoying) issues with the current 2v2 maps.
Lowko: "Banshees aren't really fighting units"
Me: *looking at Uthermal's latest sky terrain video on my recommended* "Peasant! you simply no not the potential of the Banshee"
How about some free for all? Do they do that?
2v2 makes me happy :)
Wohoooo more 2v2!!
30:30 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BANELING?!?!? DID I LIVE IN A LIE?!?! Don't tell me they are armoured now.
2V2 is my favorite! Bring me back to when Beastyqt and MaxPax dominating 2V2 online tournaments!
9:39 Dark: "yes"
I wish pro 2v2s we're more popular in Rts's in general. Maybe next gen
Lowko, you should look for a 2v2 game of the year.
Makes sense about 2v2. You have to split your brain power in which your muscle memory is in 1v1 and does not include talking to someone and taking into account what they would do.
Can they load zerg units into medivacs like dropper lords?
"ByuN always done that"
why? because it soo effective
the YOLO Bio-Medic drop
LMAO i loved your comments in Harstems live stream lol your the best Lowko .. lol watching my fav protoss and reading from my fav game caster lol you guys going back and forth is amazing for us fans
2v2 are so cool
It might be a logistical nightmare but a 2v2 viewer tournament might be pretty interesting 🤓
Zerg does indeed seem to suck in 2v2 (though lower on the ladder ling rush can hurt)
1:16 Byun and Dark vs (anyone)? No chance to loose - so let's see what will happen - Although Scarlet is my favorite player, and Byun is second one :)
The skill in 2v2 ladder is weird, because it coincides with 1v1 pretty closely until about diamond 1, then almost everyone you play is high master or grandmaster.
I always found it kinda weird that 2v2 never caught on back in Broodwar, unlike 1v1 most games of 2v2 were fairly insane since they almost always played out as rushing 1 player and the entire game hinges on how well they can hang on, as a result nearly every 2v2 game that isn't just a complete stomp was a nailbiter with action usually starting clear back at a 4-6pool or equivalent. between that and just how much communication and cordination between teammates mattered it usually made for a great show...also had some surprising results since skill as a team was so important you'd get stuff like some random duo who are individually ladder nobodies consistently winning against temporary teams of world class players like Light or Flash or Boxxor.
my best (and frankly only) real guess is the fact that it was a LOT easier to look like an idiot when trying to cast a 2v2
dude it must be so scary to play against byun and dark
great games
Roach medivac push :D
Dark indeed joined the Dark Side of skytoss
Bit of a dumb question here. Are pros allowed to offrace at official tournaments or do they just roll out on their best race?
For the most part tournaments usually only allow you to signup with one race, although there have been instances like in MLG where people are aloud to be a "switch hitter" player and play different races based on what the opponent was playing. This is very hard to do though so it’s understandable why it doesn’t happen all the time. Scarlet and Reynor are doing it lately though
I love this map.
South Korea definitely had americas number on this one. Way improved from the last one I saw. I don’t think it was ever competitive in any of these matches. GG to SK.
Red vs Blue FTW!!
Oh yeah and alt+F also doesn't work in TH-cam, just tried it. But alt+F4 does the trick
Scarlett Terran yaaas
Wait a 2v2 tournement exist?
Dark better than Rogue?
It seems like all of the top level *ZERG* players are practicing other races.
Byun supplyblocked?? [not clickbait]
Clem and reynor vs serral and maru,
Hero and Neeb vs Byun and Maru
random only pro bracket when
For Aiur!!!
Let's go
Mhm STARGATES, and WAYGATES
7th?
Is Scarlet still the best Zerg player? Sorry I thought she retired
not really, she's fun to watch, but sadly not at the top of the top (and it pains me to say it, i love watching her games)
@@andrea8300 yeah I agree, love watching her compete at the highest lvl I’m sure she’s well accomplished In the game
Nah.. he didn’t retire. He’s my favorite zerg player
@@zenmaster8826 Settle down, thirsty. Scarlett's out of your league.
@@waltonsimons12
Huh? Was just saying that scarlett is my favorite zerg player.. the dude is very entertaining to watch
THIRD or fourth!
For your next video, remove the names and have to guess who is playing
They all are playing off races because they are board. I swear they gave up on SC2
So double protoss co-op battles on teh same side, should play all pylons like creep, and expand with shield batteries... the double synergy and immense abiltiy to warp in anywhere is quite great.... do slow warp ins outside of vision, lol
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Years after quitting Starcraft 2 I have accepted that Starcraft 2 has never been a balanced game and Blizzard never cared about making a balanced game.
hey Lowko, stop putting your youtube like and next video at the end of the video or at least have a 5 minutes buffer at the end. It is really annoying at the end and spoil the out come of the match.
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