Godrick: Couldn't dodge roll his way out of the rot Radahn: The smartest one - got the hell out of there once the rot showed up again Rykard: If only Malenia had brought the Storm Ruler instead of the healing sword Margaret: He fell Mohg: They were both nihil by the end Ranni: Of course she won, she had four times as many arms as Malenia Maliketh: Proved that even when you can heal an unlimited amount just by attacking, you still don't have enough healing for Maliketh.
Lol, imagine if he pulled up again with a dozen Astels and Fallingstar beasts with him. Sure, those were the things he wanted to keep out of the Lands Between, but this Radahn's already lost his wits.
Yeah but why do you think he started grafting and lording? This very much makes sense. Base diluted Godrick < Demigod form Malenia. Grafted Godrick & Co > Demigod form Malenia < Goddess form Malenia. It's kinda beautiful how well the lore matches the gameplay.
@@TheStraightestWhitest oh that makes sense now actually. I just thought he started grafting much earlier due to his weskness compared to the rest of the golden lineage
@@domesticcat1725 I also originally thought so mostly because I felt like it would be utter insanity to challenge Malenia when you're Just Some Guy (although a demigod), but if you look at the monument documenting his defeat at the hands of Malenia, you will notice that it says "Godrick the Golden" - a name nobody except for Morgott uses. Everybody seems to have started calling him Godrick the Grafted as soon as he started, well, grafting. So the monument implies that this whole ordeal happened before he started grafting or only when he had like...two extra limbs maybe, ie so soon after starting that people still used his original name.
He flips her off as he ascends to orbit, his voice fading out as he does. "Now *_you_* know how it feels when someone cuts and runs when you're in the middle of bodying them, *biiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!"*
What an interesting battle. Sadly in my game, team Ranni only had just me and let’s just say it took about 100 or so deaths and hours of frustration before being able to kill Malenia.
I used dual great hammers and no summons I dont know how many deaths it took but it took me 9 hour straight of running at the boss over and over to beat malenia.
Took me dual Blood infused Colossal Swords with the claw talisman and Mimic Tear for extra stagger and bleed to beat her ass. My right hand weapon also had Bloodhound step because JESUS her anime move is unfair as hell. She acts like a heat-seeking missile. It lasts longer in phase 2 also. Malenia kinda sucks in overtuning and that anime bs move replaced an actual really cool and beautiful no bullshit super move. Look it up.
Just summon help, nobody will bully you if you summon other players to help. Fun trick I've learned, the less clothing the player is wearing, the stronger they are.
So interesting to see the continuous tick damage from Maliketh can counter Melania's healing. Right before phase 2 Maliketh hit 2 sword blasts and one dead on stab. She lost like 1/3 of her health at the start of phase 2. I never realizes Maliketh's attacks are these devastating, a mere tarnished usually don't have this kind of health and will die in 2 hits.
i modded after my1st playthrough to have like 500k hp and let me tell you black flames and malikeths red and blakc flames FUCKING HURT. They do HP% DMG so they dont give a fuck HOW much hp u got they will eat through it
Pretty sure that health reduction thingy is bugged too, once when fighting Malenia with the Tiche spirit summon, Tiche hit Malenia with one of those ranged attacks, her poise broke and I could critical hit her, after that, Malenia kind of just stood there for a second before entering second phase, where she had about 10% HP left. Couldn't replicate it in later attempts sadly, but maybe if someone finds out how to do that consistently it can be an easy way to cheese phase 2? (and yes, she did kill me with only 10% HP)
Thats why I went and killed Maliketh and used his weapon + the spell he gives you for Malenia. Hitting her with either one burns her HP away like this, and if you hit her with the weapon art of Malekith's blade is absolutely ANNIHILATES her.
@@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 I think you had a similar experience that I had, where they might’ve been stance broken before phase 2, were you locked in the critical hit animation when phase 2 started? Or did the black flame hit her as it started? I think it might be a health lock bug, I uploaded the clip to my channel if you wanted to see if we both experienced similar things
It’s pretty cool these boss vs boss battles actually correlate pretty well to lore… Fact that she is such a powerful demigod (then goddess) and her “blooming” really does destroy everything.
@@Iceyy3x when she uses her Scarlet Aeonia she becomes the goddess of rot. It's temporary until she does it for the third time, but she does become equal to Marika, roughly
Yeah it fits lore quite well, how radahn could beat her first phase but then would of possibly lost to her second, her scarlet rot is truly only second to destined death.
@@putent9623 lore wise he doesn’t lose to her second phase, he’s so powerful she has to poison him and he can’t retaliate because he’s a mindless beast and then she gets carried away
He very well might have one shot her if she was fighting him in an area where he could do his comet strike ... AND he's fighting her while holding back stars, so he might not even be doing it at full power.
Even when swallowed by madness Radahn still can’t bring himself to nuke Amelia back. What a lad. Imagine he came back as a meteor and hit the haligtree tho. It would end up way worse than caelid.
@@BiggDickman Imagine if he took the Meteor that hits Limgrave after his Bossbattle and directs it on Malenia in her Haligtree. Would probably not even leave a trace of that place lol
@@lucjeb9254 I don't think he can control where the giant meteors land, since they're like...sentient, or something. All he can do is let them slip their leash.
@@zacharybosley1935 Destined Death is "death" but for the gods. For others, death is just death but Merika removed the death rune from the elden ring so no one can truly die.
@@KKKuma destined death is Death separated from the erdtree. In the lands between that just means that only people killed by the black blade truly die, because everything else is consumed by the roots of the erdtree unless they decide to do something truly fucked up.
@@thegabriel638 In the lore Rennala is the only person who can stop the Golden order + Ragadon. The rest of the kingdoms like Fire giants, OG Ertrees(crucible knights), Ancient Dragons( You can still see broken walls and huge dragon corpses in Capital) were all wiped out. In theory Rennala would be top 3 in the universe. She just broken after Ragadon abandon her from their marriage, she doesn't give a shit about anything other then the egg Ragadon gave her.
@@bigchungus6827 you can watch lore video, or go to church of vows talk to big turtle. Big turtle will tell you Rennala and 12 elite Carian knights stop Ragadon + golden order. It was the first time golden order struggle to conquer a kingdom. The battles end when both Rennala and Ragadon eventually fall in love. The lore doesn't straight says Rannala is a legendary warrior but First Elden Lord Godfrey and second Elden Lord Radagon lead golden order wiped out every other factions in the land between. The only faction standing is Rennala's Carian royal family. At her prime time Melania wasn't born yet. So the golden order Rannala face had (Merika, Gadfery, Ragadon, Godwyn, Godrick, Morgott, Mohg and Malekith). I'm not saying she fought all of them at once. I just simply said she have to be top 3 in the universe to carry whole faction(no other legendary champion we know of) by herself to face all these demi-Gods.
@@christophertsai4928 Radagon wasn't really part of the Order until after Godfrey left, or atleast not a Lord, he was just a champion. Godrick is a descendant of Godfrey's bloodline, so he wasn't born yet. Mohg and Morgott were locked beneath the earth in the Shunning Grounds and Malekith was hiding Destined Death somewhere. The only one Rennala is stated to have actually faced in combat is Radagon, but those two shacked up pretty damn quick, though I will grant you that she is said to have led the glintstone knights.
Weirdly enough, I think Maliketh would canonically be able to defeat Malenia. Obviously, the game doesn't perfectly envision FromSoft's vision but we do get to see that in the trailers. Malenia and Radahn are roughly the same level and are by far the strongest demigods compared to everyone. It's why Malenia and Radahn are the only ones who have actually fought because nobody else can stand up to them. The only exception is Maliketh because only Marika knew about him and since he controls the rune of death, it would make sense he could kill all of the demigods including Malenia.
*Maliketh, Queen Marika's loyal half-brother, bore a blade imbued with Destined Death, and there was not one demigod who did not fear him. Champions knew what was at stake. Indeed, that is what made them champions * yeah maliketh definitely would clap them all
Considering one item says that all demigods feared Maliketh it's fair to say he would canonically beat all of them, and i love how the gameplay mirrors the lore in this case lol
@@A123ftw also there's a weapon that was given to Rykard by ranni incase Rykard had to fight Maliketh so that Rykard wouldn't just get clapped instantly and might put up a half decent fight
No, it just goes to show that these bosses were meant to be fought in their own arenas, and the soldiers were added to compensate for how brutally nerfed they got without their own full health and moveset. Godrick: Missed a phase. Morgott: Missed his most powerful attack, specifically an AOE. Rykard: Missed a phase. Mohg: Missed a phase and a one shot attack that would've wiped either of Malenia's phases instantly if it worked. Radahn: Missed a phase and his strongest attack that takes 80% of Malenia's health normally. Ranni: Should be obvious why, she literally can't fight. Which leaves Maliketh, who got shafted the most. Half his moveset is gone, and the other half especially his most dangerous airborne attacks are glitching out constantly because he gets stuck on shit mid-air and falls down, keeping him from stacking up Destined Death and direct damage, and allowing Malenia to attack him freely for literal seconds to heal herself. Hell it got him stuck in her Waterfowl Dance and her thrust attack. Huge damage against him, huge heals for her. If he fights her in his own arena at 100% health, he literally wins 10/10 fights (and this is how it would canonically go). Even if he fights her at 50% health the way he fights us, he won 3/5 fights. Maliketh curbstomps her in lore and gameplay even when he gets shafted horribly like here. So I suppose you're not wrong about that last bit. That does certainly match the lore. But nah, Malenia isn't the strongest Demigod. That title probably falls to Mohg or Ranni.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I agree that the bosses were missing parts of the combat and of course they’re not in their own arena but if you have to base a characters winning chances around where they fight…. They’re probably not as strong as claimed. She was merged by getting outnumbered the other bosses were “nerfed” if you will, by unused phases or move sets. I agree that having things built around your move set in an arena helps tremendously but if that’s your trump card as a fighter it’s probably not the best argument on their behalf. Also I’d say Mohg isn’t truly a threat to her because in lore he had to steal Miquella away while Malenia was passed out after her fight with Radahn and Ranni herself says in the cutscene between Malenia and Radahn that those two were the mightiest demigods to remain. Not to mention Malenia is the only pure Empyrean in the game we fight and is the closest to God hood. I’d think it’s a safe bet to say she’s the most well rounded and dangerous character in the game.
@@YDD_Luke17 lord of blood mohg in his arena def wins off his second phase start up alone. For rykard you have to kill the snake to even wake him up and then he has a massive blasphemous blade with his fire spells. We already know rahdan nerfed himself and still went to a *draw*. Maliketh not being glitched beats them all. Ranni is strong but doesn't directly fight while her physical body is already dead.
@@YDD_Luke17 Dude you're arguing inside the lore against his points of programming issues. Of course if they were actually fighting there, Mohg would use his Nihil, Maliketh would jump all over the place, Radahn would've hit the Haligtree with his Meteor and Morgott would hit with his curse. Sure out of all of these, only Maliketh and Radahn still stand a real chance, even being superior when both aren't holding back. But still your counter-argument made no sense in context of what was the core of his point.
I had a few other plans, but your suggestion is very appealing, and I spawned an idea from it. I think I will make bosses vs tough enemies my next video.
I love how Ranni sat there and didn't do anything. I imagine she doesn't have any combat mechanics. But I love the idea that she had so much faith in her mother and warriors (or little faith in Melania) that she just stood by on the sidelines.
What Fini said, 2nd phase Renalla is an illusion made by Ranni. And I think It's quite fitting tbh. Ranni not wanting to kill her step sister. Especially with how Ranni's whole endgame is to become a Goddess so that she can take the Greater Will and leave the cosmos. Allowing everyone in the Lands between to reclaim their Free Will and not be governed over by the Fingers, Greater Will & Outer Gods. She doesn't want to kill her sisters, just free them from the imposed will of the Elden Beast / Outer God
Mushroom nuke. Someone in reddit figured it out. Scarlet rot is the "growth stage" of fungus, it's expanding, and when it has drained caelid, many mushrooms will "bloom" at the border with spire clouds to coat the remaining land in scarlet rot. Truly terrifying. Imagine if the fallout zone from a nuke just kept growing permanently.
It just shows that the "optional area" bosses and zones are relatively tougher than the story zones. Volcano manor, blood palace, and our moon waifu's family all did excellent jobs.
Funny thing is that Ranni/Renna was a trap card. She let her mother and servants fight, but the moment she would be attacked, it would have only granted her opponent instant death.
This was a very good video. One of the best Elden Ring boss vs boss videos I've seen and a unique and cool concept too. It was hard to watch Malenia getting absolutely bullied at times but then she clutches with that scarlet rot aoe every time. Only one which she was never going to win was the Rykard one, and honestly I'm surprised Ranni's lot won. Malekith is no joke, for my money he's harder than Malenia and the only boss who can best her.
10:37 was such a badass moment. I looked away for a moment, expecting the phase 2 cutscene to play, but no, I looked back to see the waterfowl dance finally kicking someone else's ass.
I love that difference between (most) other demi-god and Ranni. Others wanted power (mainly) for themselves, they consider themselves the strongest of their forces, but Ranni found strong loyal followers she helped grow stronger so they can fight for her (even tho she is very strong herself as well). Kinda like Marika herself. The Queen vibe is strong. UPDATE: lol I don't know what half of you is trying to argue about in the comments, I claimed none of the things you just got pissed about and urged to correct me on asap.
Marika has used and abandoned her subordinates before. Given that Ranni killed her own step-brother Godwyn for her ambitions, I'm not sure if the divine royals of the Lands Between are that pure of heart.
yes strong and loyal seluvis, and strong and loyal shadow literally factory made to serve by fingers. Only legitimately loyal follower ranni had was iji
Melenia is an accomplished Swordswoman. She at least earned her strength and made a detrimental curse into a power she can wield. Ranni is intelligent and knows the power and benefits of unity which earned her loyalty and respect among her followers she considers family.
Best thing about Ranni is that, if she was part of the battle, she'd have won. She's the only character capable of just one-shotting the player with literally 0 effort.
Key takeaway: Maliketh AND Radahn are capable of defeating Malenia, and the only thing that makes her capable of really beating them is the rot. That says nothing about her skills with the blade though. I think she only lost to Rykard's group because he had a Godskin Duo backing him up, which is practically cheating, and with Ranni's group having Rennala for support it was a really bad matchup for Malenia. Same with Mohg. I'd like to see a one v one with him and Malenia, his bloodflame just ate through her healthbar. Of course, we all know that Radahn was the true winner in all of this.
I would like to argue that in solo case Radahn wouldn't have win against Melinia, but I think that has already proven in another match up video somewhere.
Neither of them won, there's a reason that it was a draw in the lore- even though they fought to a standstill, both ended up humiliated by the scarlet rot. The broken needle in the swamp seems to be Malenia's, which indicates that Radahn accidentally broke the needle, and she lost control over her desire to spread the rot. Millicent invades us for no reason when she's rotted, says something about nightmares due to the rot, and mentions that she has to find Malenia to return her strength of will to resist the rot after the fight with Radahn, and Malenia's dreamlike state when we encounter her makes me think that the needle breaking severely fucked with her perception of reality and self-control. She's essentially just a victim to her own curse at this point Which is actually more tragic if you think about the fact that the origin of the rot was an outer god- it means that two great warriors were felled and humiliated because something outside of their control thought it was funny. Radahn especially got the short end of the stick, bc he ended up dying as a bloodthirsty raving beast in what he thought was an honourable battle.
Better than garden of eyes, was able to predict a Rykard win and a Mohg win (even though Mohg's win was way closer than i thought). Surprised Renala's team won too, thought Iji was gonna be a punching bag and heal all of Malenia's HP. Other teams like Godrick could have faired better if anyone attempted to not eat the Scarlet Aeonia at point blank. Still, shows how amazingly OP Malenia is
You don't win if you die in the attempt. That's a tie. He did kill her FIRST though and then died of the rot so he's it's actually the 'winner' of the draws I think?
The only one there that could've probably solod her and won without dying was Rykard, and it wouldn't even be because of Rykard's own power, but because of the God-Devouring Serpent portion of his body.
By the end: "I wonder if there's anyone that really can defeat her? Maybe Maliketh?" Rykard, who wiped the floor with her and still had over 90% of his HP left: "Am I a joke to you?"
I find it a little funny that Ranni didn't actually do anything. In game, she's probably not programmed for combat, but still funny that she just kinda sits there watching everyone else do the work.
It's very in character of her honestly if ranni needs something done she has her goon squad do it. Need radahn dead? Send that tarnished you met Need Godwin dead? Send black knives Need to get the finger slayer? Tarnished time Hell even the ranalla we fight is a projection by ranni
The Morgott-team battle freaking killed me 😂 All that firepower just raining down in waves and STILL Malenia is just like, NOO! Also, I respect that Maliketh was the only one that could win on his own, albeit at the cost of his life. I think he and Malenia are the strongest warriors in the story. One is an Empyrean with celestial powers and the other is the master of Death itself, with a history of having killed an Empyrean in the past.
Maliketh in lore is more than likely the strongest creature outside of Marika herself. Even the demigods feared the black blade. That being said, Malenia and Radahn before he got super aids could have prolly killed him in a team up, but he’s still in a league only comparable with Marika herself.
@@austaryxthelastofthesane3870 Yeah, with Death at his command, I think he simply had something the others didn’t. I’m curious what kind of powers Marika possessed because I just read the description that stated she killed the fell god of the Fire Giants. So, I’m wondering what she had that allowed her to also kill gods. It’s interesting.
@@queenvictoriann What she has done there must definitely have been huge. I'm not sure about the conclusion here, but in Placidusax's descriptions it's written that he was the elden lord in the era of a felled god living outside time. It may be the same fire god Marika managed to defeat.
@@avdima5000 Yeah maybe it was that one! Interesting. And yeah, Radahn is definitely the strongest demigod, but the characters I mentioned, Maliketh, Malenia, and Marika are not demigods. Maliketh is a beast and Malenia + Marika are Empyreans. That’s why I felt confident saying what I said about Maliketh and Malenia being extremely powerful.
The funny part is how much worse this would have gone for Malenia if Ranni herself fought. Ranni is the only character in the game shown to be able to just delete people outright without ever attacking -- or even moving, for that matter. All your health gone instantaneously. Also: Stupid overtuned murder crow is MVP.
I thought Renalla's battle might be close due to her being a zoner with high DPS who can hide behind minions, but the moment I saw Tiche on the lineup I knew they had the win. Tiche is incredible vs Malenia, and can hold her own for extended periods against everything short of Waterfowl Dance (which usually does around half her health give or take). She staggers Malenia with almost every hit, can dunk her out of her jumping moves, and dodges an extraordinary number of her hits just by spamming her drift dodge. One of the few exceptions to the "don't summon against Melania" rule, alongside Mimic Tear cheese strats.
Tiche's AI is also incredibly intuitive. You can clearly see she dodged the scarlet bloom, and I know she did because even in my fights with Malenia, Tiche always dodged the bloom. I honestly believe that if you take away Malenia's healing attacks, Tiche might actually beat her 1 on 1. People always pick Melina or Ranni as the best girl in Elden Ring but man, Tiche is my ride or die and I would gladly be her consort. LOL
@@gaymer2698 I've heard good things about him. Alas, I gave the potion to Gideon before I realized he was even an option. A sin for another playthrough I suppose.
@@connorshaw7649 you're missing so much stuff bro he is the coolest not because of his stats(they are pretty good tho) but because he can do a weird spell where you do extra damage to the boss
Interestingly, every outcome is supported by the lore of the game! Godrick the weak runt, Radahn technically fought her to a standstill, Rykard was gearing up to devour the gods and did so! Mohg I’m actually not sure about, but Ranni is said to be powerful enough to take on anyone in her own territory which is why she doesn’t leave her tower, and Maliketh should be able to take on, if not kill Malenia due to the power of Destined Death. Very cool video with very cool outcomes
I love the idea but when you said ''elite soldiers'' I was expecting enemies you fight to get to that boss or those he could potentially recruit to fight with him. Enemies that could be associated with like the area at least if not the boss himself. 2 of Mogh's ''soldiers'' would have made way more sense for Rykard or Morgott for instance since they're found in Altus and Mt. Gelmir.
very good video, I just looked at the view count and I'm shocked, I hope this blows up. The intros were really cool, you clearly put some effort into this. very cool!
the thing with malenia is that shes extremely easy to stagger. I remember going in with 2 collosal swords and a mimic, getting her doen to a third hp in second phase at try #3.
Fun fact: Malenia is only 'undefeated' because she hasn't fought 90% of the cast. She beat Godrick who as we all know is a joke in terms of dueling power. Radahn is questionable. Simps from both side gonna eat my head if I make a statement so ignoring him. But besides those two she hasn't fought anyone worthy enough for her moniker of being "undefeated" to even matter. I'll list a few people in the lore who would stomp on her - Radagon, her daddy (and mommy?) - Godfrey, arguably stronger than Radagon since as Horah Loux he was monstrous enough to become elden lord and his power was actually sealed via Serosh and his grace taken away since the greater will considered him a threat if he turned against them. - The black knife order, literally people who are skilled in the art of slaying demi gods. - Morgott, this is a theory/speculation since he never took part in the war. However, if you watch the opening cutscene it shows him destroying Radahn 1v1 to protect the capital from his advance. He literally came out of the sewers and bitch slapped Radahn into submission (back then Radahn wasn't the starscourge and wasn't a master of gravity magic and also was hence much smaller in size) - Malekith. He is the shade of Marika herself, implying he was capable or at least had the power to kill Marika/Radagon if he ever wished to do so (same logic as Blaidd being stronger than Ranni).
Lore wise, she is the only Demi-god offspring that has achieved godhood. Unless you count Rykard because he lets the serpent devour him and assimilate himself into it or Ranni who only became one at the end of the story. Mohg got power from the formless mother is probably very close to godhood as well, also it is also implied that Ranni is indeed, quite powerful, her mother Renalla is a mortal that has power comparable to a demi god, Ranni 's illusion magic alone is Renalla phase 2, that's just 1 single spell from Ranni lol. Radagon/ Marika is probably the same person, that or Radagon is a hidden god chosen by the Elden beast. Isn't it weird that only Malenia and Miquella suffer from weird divine syndrome while the other demi-gods don't? Close blood offspring or selfcest? Also both of them are said to possess tremendous divine power, to the point Miquella was trying to grow into a real god, and Malenia is the only one who actually ascended (well except Ranni at the end of the story). Radahn was told to be the strongest of them all (but that was a really long past, he practically only roaming the battle field and eating coprse after the war with Malenia, if anything that version of Radahn only decline in power, and Radahn power grown after Morgott beat him, and so can any other living demi-gods). And Malenia at that time is still one of the youngest demi-gods. Maliketh is actually a possibility because he is Marika/Radagon shadow beast, he is, in a way, hold a part of an actual god. And his power is meant to kill everything, as a symbol of the order power, it was not merely a normal power, but power granted by the greater will, a representation of power to uphold the order in its will.
@@clorkmagnus Malenia is not demi god but empyrean, since she's born to Marika/Radagon who is the same person. so that make her empyrean and not demi god. so she's way stronger then everyone else. also can't wait to have an DLC with Miquella as a boss would be insane
Kind of interesting that the same concept holds true for your fight against her as it does for the bosses fight against her it all depends on whether she decides to waterfowl or not.
i beat Maliketh on my 2nd attempt ( on the 1st i fell into the void ) , and the last fight made me respect him more Build: Claymore with default ash of war +25 2nd hand banished knight's greatsword +24
Great video. I was trying to guess the carian family squad. I had them all except the Tiche. Thought it was gonna be that carian warrior who guards Rennalas Elevator.
If AI adjustments could be made to optimize for these types of fights I think she would've won all the fights even if it was done for both sides. Like Melania targeting out the weaker enemies in the groups and not dodging as often at time to trade damage with her healing ability. AI in Elden has a bad habit of targeting who last hit them allowing for juggling well. In the Rykard and Mogh fight she ended up getting smacked around trying to dodge large AOEs when she could've switched to offensive focus and downed out a couple in her first phase. Then in the Ranni fight had she targeted Renalla first she probably would've dropped her quickly avoiding a lot of the magic damage she took from a less mobile fighter. Maliketh is a fight that had he started in phase 1 and switched to phase 2 at half would've lost without her tanking so many extra black flame dots stacking. In the Rykard fight I think it would have ultimately come down to if she could get rid of the adds. Once it was just her and him despite his massive health bar she would've just out healed his damage till he died I believe.
if she was programmed to spam the aeonia and waterfowl then she would win against any npc. therefore the point is not to optimize, but to just have fun
I mean she already has some absurd tweeks in terms of her move set. It would make more sense to balance the other bosses to be harder, than to make her more broken. She has some pretty cheap ass abilities.
In fairness given phase 1 and 2 rykard can solo any boss in the game he really didn't need his team mates with team sheer amount of health he has given his first phase was given too him.
Yeah Maliketh wouldn't make sense if you gave him friends, Rykard didn't need any either..tbh..but Maliketh has a Draconic Knight, multiple dragons, the God Skin duo she would have been destroyed in a matter of seconds.
@@chokonnit7337: There are things called traitors, and I'm not up to speed on WHY there is Godskin Nobles defending a Dragon Temple, friend. ☕🗿 I mean they get spawned in and can get infinitely revived, they could not be real but copies that are forced to fight but who knows?
@@Patches_Gaming No. read the godskin swaddling cloth. they were all raised and made to fight under the queen. their weapons, clothes, and blackflame are signs that they are still part of her army otherwise they wouldn’t be called godskin now would they 🍼🗿
@@chokonnit7337: I may not have that, but I doubt they would even take off their clothes, or Miyazaki would even make a special one who bears rags/clothes instead of skin.
Maliketh vs Malenia is pretty much 50/50 depending on how each of their AI's react, mostly on Maliketh's part. Lorewise, he's also fighting with a handicap since he only has a small fragment of destined death. 🙃
That's in Malenia's arena though. In his own where half his moveset doesn't bug out while the other half using the pillars isn't restricted, he literally wins 10/10 times, it's been tested. Handicap just makes him win only 3/5 fights. He makes her his bitch.
Were the challengers buffed? I have a very hard time believing godrick & stormviel could make it so far Otherwise, awesome video. Loved the editing and premise!
I also want to mention, in-lore, the most capable candidates for "winning" the shattering and beating the demigods are Mohg, Rykard, and Malenia. I believe if the Tarnished hadn't come along, Rykard would have done it first. He was the most prepared at that point, the most willing, the most potential to grow (literally) and extraordinarily strong himself.
It is hard to explain. I wrote a long reply for you but deleted it and decide to give you a slightly simplified answer. The final stats of an npc is base stats from database * stage multiplier. Godrick soldier and Haligtree soldier has the same base stats, but receive different stage multipliers, Haligtree soldiers end up having a lot more HP and hit a lot harder despite the fact they share the same stats with Godrick soldier in databank. Godrick has base HP 3354 while Malenia has 2489. Stormveil stage has a HP multiplier about 2, haligtree is around 9. The demigods and elites I put in the arena receives a multiplier of roughly 7. What all these means is Stormveil Godrick has about 3354*2 HP, Malenia in Haligtree has about 2489*9 HP for p1, 2489*9*0.82 for p2. Godrick in this video has about 3354*7 HP. Damage multiplier is also different. The demigods and warriors I put in arena receives lvl 11 multiplier, while Malenia perhaps receives lvl 13-15 multiplier. If you think removing stage multiplier differences is what a fair fight is, then Godrick and all other demigods and warriors are nerfed in this fight. If you think using in-game final stats is fair, then they are all buffed.
@@jettisonantics Yeah... I think Melania was just sitting around waiting to die. If some DLC brings about a return of Miquella it might change my opinion here (since it would likely rouse Melania back to life again...... somehow I just don't envision Mohg gaining any advantage from Miquella no matter how much he'd like to) but all things going as they were, Rykard was at least actively amping himself up for it still.
@@lenajohnson6179 I disagree about Mohg. Up to the current point, Mohg has been in his blood form inside miquella's cacoon, dowsing him in his own accursed blood, and with the blood of others that his knights give him, trying to "corrupt" Miquella in a similar way that the blood nobles and red albinurics are. And it's clearly taken effect. Miquella looks much larger than a child, and his arms are the same dark gray hue as Mohg's, and wrinkly as hell. Clearly, the blood has been working. It's only up to guess what will happen when he awakens. That being said, I think Miquella will be a big part of DLC, if it is coming.
Obviously, Radhan put so much power into that jump that he literally warped into our dimension and made a hole through the middle of Limgrave all the way into Nokron. That makes so much sense now
As in the lore,malekith was the shadow of Marika and if you don’t know what shadows are then lemme explain : Shadows are the beings created to protect their master at any cost whatsoever and if the master go hollow they will have to kill the master too,so with this we can assume maliketh was stronger than Marika a literal god,and was bestowed destined death (by Marika) to protect.but our four handed waifu stole it and killed Godwyn the first of the demigods to die,thus starting the shattering now,what I mean to say is the man is not even at his full power right now because he doesn’t have that piece of destined death in his possession,and even in lore all the empyreans and Demi gods feared the one with the destined death,he was a literal god killer so,even if we get to see prime malenia vs prime malekith my bet will be on the one with the destined death. Aaaaand he is also a cat in the armour which is cute… Source : vaatividya the all knowing.
It's hard to take radahn seriously in a fight, when he is a giant riding on such a thin looking horse. Speaking of, looks like enough sanity came back to him at the last moment for him to nope out of there
Godrick: Couldn't dodge roll his way out of the rot
Radahn: The smartest one - got the hell out of there once the rot showed up again
Rykard: If only Malenia had brought the Storm Ruler instead of the healing sword
Margaret: He fell
Mohg: They were both nihil by the end
Ranni: Of course she won, she had four times as many arms as Malenia
Maliketh: Proved that even when you can heal an unlimited amount just by attacking, you still don't have enough healing for Maliketh.
That ranni comment was a winner
I was gonna make a smart aleck comment, but then I remembered how many arms Malenia had and realized I was the dumb one all along
Mohg wouldn’t have traded with Malenia if he had used his trident’s ability to steal her health.
"he fell" very nice.
''With 'er four arms, imagine all the things she could do to it... your tarnished tackle.'' - Sir Gideon Ofnir, The All-Knowing
All other bosses: “If this was my battlefield it would be easy clap.”
Mogh: Casually turns the place into a bloody fiery mess.
Mohg: Yeah, it's good enough. This is *_MY_* place now.
Malenia: Wha-
Mohg: *_MY place._*
Maliketh: dread it, run from it, destined death still arrives
@@jakejohnson718 And now it is here. Or should I say, I am...
You said your blood rotted? Here, have a new one
@@jakejohnson718 If Maliketh would've had his pillars, Malenia would have died way faster ngl.
Radahn learned from his mistakes and dodged the scarlet rose, then proceeded to leave.
Homie Probably got Lost in Space and landed somewhere else lol
His cognizance just hasn't been the same since he got infected with Malenia aids, I feel sorry for the poor sod he does land on though.
Lol, imagine if he pulled up again with a dozen Astels and Fallingstar beasts with him. Sure, those were the things he wanted to keep out of the Lands Between, but this Radahn's already lost his wits.
It's called PTSD
I liked the little gps remark when that happened 🤣
Honestly it's incredible how well Godrick held his ground, considering he had lost to her miserably in the lore
I guess that was before he grafted himself into that monstrosity.
Yeah but why do you think he started grafting and lording? This very much makes sense. Base diluted Godrick < Demigod form Malenia. Grafted Godrick & Co > Demigod form Malenia < Goddess form Malenia. It's kinda beautiful how well the lore matches the gameplay.
@@TheStraightestWhitest oh that makes sense now actually. I just thought he started grafting much earlier due to his weskness compared to the rest of the golden lineage
@@domesticcat1725 I also originally thought so mostly because I felt like it would be utter insanity to challenge Malenia when you're Just Some Guy (although a demigod), but if you look at the monument documenting his defeat at the hands of Malenia, you will notice that it says "Godrick the Golden" - a name nobody except for Morgott uses. Everybody seems to have started calling him Godrick the Grafted as soon as he started, well, grafting. So the monument implies that this whole ordeal happened before he started grafting or only when he had like...two extra limbs maybe, ie so soon after starting that people still used his original name.
@@monochromedream-eatingbaku that's a pretty good point
I see we are still too scared to match any of the bosses against Soldier of Godrick.
Soldier of godrick, but give him an hp bar twice the size of Rykard
We need yo see how many Soldiers of Godrick it takes to kill each boss, since he won't be in his arena it might take more than one
*Rick, soldier of God
Lol Radahn’s like: “Fuck this shit, not again”
"Oh she's doing the flower thing? Nah guys, I'm out!
"I just got over the whole corpse eating thing im not dealing with a relapse"
He flips her off as he ascends to orbit, his voice fading out as he does.
"Now *_you_* know how it feels when someone cuts and runs when you're in the middle of bodying them, *biiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!"*
Was hoping to see this fight in Radahns arena so the meteor could one shot her ass
@@BestWayKilla fuck, my side hurts
What an interesting battle. Sadly in my game, team Ranni only had just me and let’s just say it took about 100 or so deaths and hours of frustration before being able to kill Malenia.
Sounds like some nasty days 😂
But.... Ranni won!
I used dual great hammers and no summons I dont know how many deaths it took but it took me 9 hour straight of running at the boss over and over to beat malenia.
Took me dual Blood infused Colossal Swords with the claw talisman and Mimic Tear for extra stagger and bleed to beat her ass.
My right hand weapon also had Bloodhound step because JESUS her anime move is unfair as hell. She acts like a heat-seeking missile. It lasts longer in phase 2 also.
Malenia kinda sucks in overtuning and that anime bs move replaced an actual really cool and beautiful no bullshit super move. Look it up.
Just summon help, nobody will bully you if you summon other players to help.
Fun trick I've learned, the less clothing the player is wearing, the stronger they are.
So interesting to see the continuous tick damage from Maliketh can counter Melania's healing. Right before phase 2 Maliketh hit 2 sword blasts and one dead on stab. She lost like 1/3 of her health at the start of phase 2. I never realizes Maliketh's attacks are these devastating, a mere tarnished usually don't have this kind of health and will die in 2 hits.
i modded after my1st playthrough to have like 500k hp and let me tell you black flames and malikeths red and blakc flames FUCKING HURT. They do HP% DMG so they dont give a fuck HOW much hp u got they will eat through it
Pretty sure that health reduction thingy is bugged too, once when fighting Malenia with the Tiche spirit summon, Tiche hit Malenia with one of those ranged attacks, her poise broke and I could critical hit her, after that, Malenia kind of just stood there for a second before entering second phase, where she had about 10% HP left. Couldn't replicate it in later attempts sadly, but maybe if someone finds out how to do that consistently it can be an easy way to cheese phase 2? (and yes, she did kill me with only 10% HP)
Thats why I went and killed Maliketh and used his weapon + the spell he gives you for Malenia. Hitting her with either one burns her HP away like this, and if you hit her with the weapon art of Malekith's blade is absolutely ANNIHILATES her.
Malekith is arguably the most lethal character to the demigods. He was certainly feared by them
@@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 I think you had a similar experience that I had, where they might’ve been stance broken before phase 2, were you locked in the critical hit animation when phase 2 started? Or did the black flame hit her as it started? I think it might be a health lock bug, I uploaded the clip to my channel if you wanted to see if we both experienced similar things
Iji practically shoving Ranni aside to try and get between her and Malenia when she got close was very heartrending.
Iji is the #1 npc
Mohg vs Malenia is just:
"I LOVE HIM MORE!"
"NO I DO!"
"NO ME!"
Until they literally kill each other... 🤦🏽♂️
It’s pretty cool these boss vs boss battles actually correlate pretty well to lore… Fact that she is such a powerful demigod (then goddess) and her “blooming” really does destroy everything.
She isn’t a goddess, we kill her before that
Malenia never became a god. But being an empyrean she had the ability to
@@Iceyy3x when she uses her Scarlet Aeonia she becomes the goddess of rot. It's temporary until she does it for the third time, but she does become equal to Marika, roughly
Yeah it fits lore quite well, how radahn could beat her first phase but then would of possibly lost to her second, her scarlet rot is truly only second to destined death.
@@putent9623 lore wise he doesn’t lose to her second phase, he’s so powerful she has to poison him and he can’t retaliate because he’s a mindless beast and then she gets carried away
Radahn be like "you haven't known defeat, but this is TWO draws now."
He very well might have one shot her if she was fighting him in an area where he could do his comet strike ... AND he's fighting her while holding back stars, so he might not even be doing it at full power.
Radahn as he flies into space: ''So another draw then. Same time next Tuesday?''
Malenia: *Nods begrudgingly*
I thought there would be NO way she could win against the Morgott squad… holy hell 😂
they’re all gigantic so she’d be hitting them a lot
@@zellarc8843 true. my first impression was that their size would stagger lock her
to be fair its her rot that killed them. by themselves in the first phase they took her the closes that she's probably ever come to a gang bang...
She might not have if she hadn't hit them with the scarlet aeonia twice in a pretty short time.
@@charlieflott3300 She would've been demolished if she didn't Yolo the waterfowl dance at the end of phase 1 and delete huge chunks of their health
Ah see I find it to be truthfully correct that radahn doesnt finish his fight with her in this. As was intended. Stuck to the lore even in modding.
Even when swallowed by madness Radahn still can’t bring himself to nuke Amelia back. What a lad.
Imagine he came back as a meteor and hit the haligtree tho. It would end up way worse than caelid.
@@BiggDickman Imagine if he took the Meteor that hits Limgrave after his Bossbattle and directs it on Malenia in her Haligtree. Would probably not even leave a trace of that place lol
He ain't touching cancer lol, just peaces out lmao.
@@lucjeb9254 I don't think he can control where the giant meteors land, since they're like...sentient, or something. All he can do is let them slip their leash.
@@lucjeb9254 he cant control where they land he can only hold them back from their natural movement.
Its canon that the demigods literally FEAR maliketh, so he could destroy all of them with ease
Destined Death is a fate worse than returning to the erdtree.
@@zacharybosley1935 Destined Death is "death" but for the gods. For others, death is just death but Merika removed the death rune from the elden ring so no one can truly die.
@@KKKuma destined death is Death separated from the erdtree. In the lands between that just means that only people killed by the black blade truly die, because everything else is consumed by the roots of the erdtree unless they decide to do something truly fucked up.
@@KKKuma maliketh can inflict true death cause he has the rune of death lol
When maliketh is the only thing in the Lands Between that can truly kill, it'd make sense
Ranni: My work here is done
Blaidd: But you didn't anything!
Ranni: "Wosh"
Ranni: *sits with popcorn "Go get 'em, mom!"
technically it is her, her mom weak af, first phase was her mom, second phase is against Ranni's illusion posing as her mom
@@thegabriel638 In the lore Rennala is the only person who can stop the Golden order + Ragadon. The rest of the kingdoms like Fire giants, OG Ertrees(crucible knights), Ancient Dragons( You can still see broken walls and huge dragon corpses in Capital) were all wiped out. In theory Rennala would be top 3 in the universe. She just broken after Ragadon abandon her from their marriage, she doesn't give a shit about anything other then the egg Ragadon gave her.
@@christophertsai4928 Mind pointing me to that lore? I don't really recall any piece on Rennala naming her as particularly strong.
@@bigchungus6827 you can watch lore video, or go to church of vows talk to big turtle. Big turtle will tell you Rennala and 12 elite Carian knights stop Ragadon + golden order. It was the first time golden order struggle to conquer a kingdom. The battles end when both Rennala and Ragadon eventually fall in love. The lore doesn't straight says Rannala is a legendary warrior but First Elden Lord Godfrey and second Elden Lord Radagon lead golden order wiped out every other factions in the land between. The only faction standing is Rennala's Carian royal family. At her prime time Melania wasn't born yet. So the golden order Rannala face had (Merika, Gadfery, Ragadon, Godwyn, Godrick, Morgott, Mohg and Malekith). I'm not saying she fought all of them at once. I just simply said she have to be top 3 in the universe to carry whole faction(no other legendary champion we know of) by herself to face all these demi-Gods.
@@christophertsai4928 Radagon wasn't really part of the Order until after Godfrey left, or atleast not a Lord, he was just a champion. Godrick is a descendant of Godfrey's bloodline, so he wasn't born yet. Mohg and Morgott were locked beneath the earth in the Shunning Grounds and Malekith was hiding Destined Death somewhere.
The only one Rennala is stated to have actually faced in combat is Radagon, but those two shacked up pretty damn quick, though I will grant you that she is said to have led the glintstone knights.
Weirdly enough, I think Maliketh would canonically be able to defeat Malenia. Obviously, the game doesn't perfectly envision FromSoft's vision but we do get to see that in the trailers. Malenia and Radahn are roughly the same level and are by far the strongest demigods compared to everyone. It's why Malenia and Radahn are the only ones who have actually fought because nobody else can stand up to them. The only exception is Maliketh because only Marika knew about him and since he controls the rune of death, it would make sense he could kill all of the demigods including Malenia.
*Maliketh, Queen Marika's loyal half-brother, bore a blade imbued with Destined Death, and there was not one demigod who did not fear him.
Champions knew what was at stake. Indeed, that is what made them champions *
yeah maliketh definitely would clap them all
Considering one item says that all demigods feared Maliketh it's fair to say he would canonically beat all of them, and i love how the gameplay mirrors the lore in this case lol
Maliketh isn’t even running full steam in game. If he was full power nobody could stop him.
Even before the Shattering, Maliketh was powerful enough to earn his title "Death of the Demigods".
@@A123ftw also there's a weapon that was given to Rykard by ranni incase Rykard had to fight Maliketh so that Rykard wouldn't just get clapped instantly and might put up a half decent fight
The fact she has to be nerfed to a 5v1 goes to show just how powerful and capable she is as an Empyrean. Kind of matches with the lore too in a way.
No, it just goes to show that these bosses were meant to be fought in their own arenas, and the soldiers were added to compensate for how brutally nerfed they got without their own full health and moveset.
Godrick: Missed a phase.
Morgott: Missed his most powerful attack, specifically an AOE.
Rykard: Missed a phase.
Mohg: Missed a phase and a one shot attack that would've wiped either of Malenia's phases instantly if it worked.
Radahn: Missed a phase and his strongest attack that takes 80% of Malenia's health normally.
Ranni: Should be obvious why, she literally can't fight.
Which leaves Maliketh, who got shafted the most. Half his moveset is gone, and the other half especially his most dangerous airborne attacks are glitching out constantly because he gets stuck on shit mid-air and falls down, keeping him from stacking up Destined Death and direct damage, and allowing Malenia to attack him freely for literal seconds to heal herself. Hell it got him stuck in her Waterfowl Dance and her thrust attack. Huge damage against him, huge heals for her. If he fights her in his own arena at 100% health, he literally wins 10/10 fights (and this is how it would canonically go). Even if he fights her at 50% health the way he fights us, he won 3/5 fights. Maliketh curbstomps her in lore and gameplay even when he gets shafted horribly like here.
So I suppose you're not wrong about that last bit. That does certainly match the lore. But nah, Malenia isn't the strongest Demigod. That title probably falls to Mohg or Ranni.
@@TheStraightestWhitest I agree that the bosses were missing parts of the combat and of course they’re not in their own arena but if you have to base a characters winning chances around where they fight…. They’re probably not as strong as claimed. She was merged by getting outnumbered the other bosses were “nerfed” if you will, by unused phases or move sets. I agree that having things built around your move set in an arena helps tremendously but if that’s your trump card as a fighter it’s probably not the best argument on their behalf.
Also I’d say Mohg isn’t truly a threat to her because in lore he had to steal Miquella away while Malenia was passed out after her fight with Radahn and Ranni herself says in the cutscene between Malenia and Radahn that those two were the mightiest demigods to remain. Not to mention Malenia is the only pure Empyrean in the game we fight and is the closest to God hood. I’d think it’s a safe bet to say she’s the most well rounded and dangerous character in the game.
@@YDD_Luke17 lord of blood mohg in his arena def wins off his second phase start up alone. For rykard you have to kill the snake to even wake him up and then he has a massive blasphemous blade with his fire spells. We already know rahdan nerfed himself and still went to a *draw*. Maliketh not being glitched beats them all. Ranni is strong but doesn't directly fight while her physical body is already dead.
@@mertontaylor5052 I disagree with most of these. My previous comments answer why I disagree.
@@YDD_Luke17 Dude you're arguing inside the lore against his points of programming issues. Of course if they were actually fighting there, Mohg would use his Nihil, Maliketh would jump all over the place, Radahn would've hit the Haligtree with his Meteor and Morgott would hit with his curse. Sure out of all of these, only Maliketh and Radahn still stand a real chance, even being superior when both aren't holding back. But still your counter-argument made no sense in context of what was the core of his point.
I really want to see how the bosses handle some of the tougher regular enemies in the game. Like Runebear, Crucible Knights, or the Zamor Knights.
I had a few other plans, but your suggestion is very appealing, and I spawned an idea from it. I think I will make bosses vs tough enemies my next video.
Runebear would crush most bosses, at least the misbegotten warrior maybe even crucible knights
@@d.robinson6262 I absolutely agree but it would still be cool to see.
@@adherentoftheoceangoddess5496
I'm willing to bet those insect fucks would destroy bosses if in a group
I love how Ranni sat there and didn't do anything. I imagine she doesn't have any combat mechanics. But I love the idea that she had so much faith in her mother and warriors (or little faith in Melania) that she just stood by on the sidelines.
The Rennalla we fight in the second phase is an illusion made by Ranni so Rennallas contributions here can be seen as Rannis.
What Fini said, 2nd phase Renalla is an illusion made by Ranni.
And I think It's quite fitting tbh. Ranni not wanting to kill her step sister.
Especially with how Ranni's whole endgame is to become a Goddess so that she can take the Greater Will and leave the cosmos.
Allowing everyone in the Lands between to reclaim their Free Will and not be governed over by the Fingers, Greater Will & Outer Gods.
She doesn't want to kill her sisters, just free them from the imposed will of the Elden Beast / Outer God
@@SinKieran Malenia is her half sister she already killed godwyn her kinda half/step brother tho
@@SinKieran Ranni killed herself to free others of the Greater Will's entity and rule. Sigma grindset.
Technically in the lore, Radahn is the only one left undefeated by malenia.
However she just dropped a nuke on caelid.
Also Maliketh, because no one in their right minds would challenge the guy wielding the Rune of Death as a weapon
Mushroom nuke. Someone in reddit figured it out. Scarlet rot is the "growth stage" of fungus, it's expanding, and when it has drained caelid, many mushrooms will "bloom" at the border with spire clouds to coat the remaining land in scarlet rot. Truly terrifying. Imagine if the fallout zone from a nuke just kept growing permanently.
@@KumiStellari das fucked
@@dualtronix4438 Ranni did, and she won
@@Athropod101 No she did not fight Maliketh head on. She had the black knives steal part of the rune of death
It just shows that the "optional area" bosses and zones are relatively tougher than the story zones. Volcano manor, blood palace, and our moon waifu's family all did excellent jobs.
Funny thing is that Ranni/Renna was a trap card. She let her mother and servants fight, but the moment she would be attacked, it would have only granted her opponent instant death.
This was a very good video. One of the best Elden Ring boss vs boss videos I've seen and a unique and cool concept too. It was hard to watch Malenia getting absolutely bullied at times but then she clutches with that scarlet rot aoe every time. Only one which she was never going to win was the Rykard one, and honestly I'm surprised Ranni's lot won. Malekith is no joke, for my money he's harder than Malenia and the only boss who can best her.
I’m thinking he should of used beast clergy man than his 2nd phase maliketh since she had both phases and healed. maybe it wouldn’t have been a draw
@@llustrations I think he would've lost if that was true.
Ranni's team won because of her mother's magic spam without her,it'd be different
@@nihil7271 Well duh. They still won though.
@@Bloodwing-zx9ri I am not saying they will lose but the match could have been different without Rennala's magic machine gun
10:37 was such a badass moment. I looked away for a moment, expecting the phase 2 cutscene to play, but no, I looked back to see the waterfowl dance finally kicking someone else's ass.
The fire effects of Mohg, even out of his arena, are outstanding
I love that difference between (most) other demi-god and Ranni. Others wanted power (mainly) for themselves, they consider themselves the strongest of their forces, but Ranni found strong loyal followers she helped grow stronger so they can fight for her (even tho she is very strong herself as well). Kinda like Marika herself. The Queen vibe is strong.
UPDATE: lol I don't know what half of you is trying to argue about in the comments, I claimed none of the things you just got pissed about and urged to correct me on asap.
Marika has used and abandoned her subordinates before. Given that Ranni killed her own step-brother Godwyn for her ambitions, I'm not sure if the divine royals of the Lands Between are that pure of heart.
yes strong and loyal seluvis, and strong and loyal shadow literally factory made to serve by fingers. Only legitimately loyal follower ranni had was iji
Melenia is an accomplished Swordswoman. She at least earned her strength and made a detrimental curse into a power she can wield. Ranni is intelligent and knows the power and benefits of unity which earned her loyalty and respect among her followers she considers family.
Best thing about Ranni is that, if she was part of the battle, she'd have won. She's the only character capable of just one-shotting the player with literally 0 effort.
Ranni is literally evil.
Key takeaway: Maliketh AND Radahn are capable of defeating Malenia, and the only thing that makes her capable of really beating them is the rot.
That says nothing about her skills with the blade though. I think she only lost to Rykard's group because he had a Godskin Duo backing him up, which is practically cheating, and with Ranni's group having Rennala for support it was a really bad matchup for Malenia. Same with Mohg. I'd like to see a one v one with him and Malenia, his bloodflame just ate through her healthbar.
Of course, we all know that Radahn was the true winner in all of this.
Radahn technically won in my eyes, seeing as he is the only one that actually got out of there alive.
@Elliot Rose He had a Godskin duo he doesn't count
I would like to argue that in solo case Radahn wouldn't have win against Melinia, but I think that has already proven in another match up video somewhere.
@@xeseriesthepsycho Rykard is a scrublord for that.
Neither of them won, there's a reason that it was a draw in the lore- even though they fought to a standstill, both ended up humiliated by the scarlet rot. The broken needle in the swamp seems to be Malenia's, which indicates that Radahn accidentally broke the needle, and she lost control over her desire to spread the rot. Millicent invades us for no reason when she's rotted, says something about nightmares due to the rot, and mentions that she has to find Malenia to return her strength of will to resist the rot after the fight with Radahn, and Malenia's dreamlike state when we encounter her makes me think that the needle breaking severely fucked with her perception of reality and self-control. She's essentially just a victim to her own curse at this point
Which is actually more tragic if you think about the fact that the origin of the rot was an outer god- it means that two great warriors were felled and humiliated because something outside of their control thought it was funny. Radahn especially got the short end of the stick, bc he ended up dying as a bloodthirsty raving beast in what he thought was an honourable battle.
I love the boss intros! Really made it feel like a filmed raid boss fight.
Better than garden of eyes, was able to predict a Rykard win and a Mohg win (even though Mohg's win was way closer than i thought). Surprised Renala's team won too, thought Iji was gonna be a punching bag and heal all of Malenia's HP. Other teams like Godrick could have faired better if anyone attempted to not eat the Scarlet Aeonia at point blank.
Still, shows how amazingly OP Malenia is
Thing it’s the reason she wins most of theese fights is because of the ai not avoiding the scarlet aoenia and waterflow dance
Mostly the aeonia
I wouldn't even count mohg there as a win because he still died at the end
You don't win if you die in the attempt. That's a tie. He did kill her FIRST though and then died of the rot so he's it's actually the 'winner' of the draws I think?
The only one there that could've probably solod her and won without dying was Rykard, and it wouldn't even be because of Rykard's own power, but because of the God-Devouring Serpent portion of his body.
Malenia : "I an Malenia, blade of Miquella, and I have never known defeat."
Me : "my dear, you are lucky you've never met your uncle."
Half-brother.
@@austingaw5851 Maliketh is Marika's brother
@@promatheus951 its marikas finger shadow
@@promatheus951 maliketh is a gift from the outer gods, not related to the royal familty
@@themonarchserupt4051 Maliketh is Marikas Half Brother
It's cool that the scarlet bloom is what takes out most of the enemies, and it makes sense since lore wise its her most powerful attack
By the end: "I wonder if there's anyone that really can defeat her? Maybe Maliketh?"
Rykard, who wiped the floor with her and still had over 90% of his HP left: "Am I a joke to you?"
Rykard with godskin duo is so unfair
Dude ryk had godskin with him. Those two r pretty strong by themselves. Most fights iv seen, rykard loses badly to mal.
Ranni's group just works so well together like they where ment to fight together, no wonder their the only ones who won with one casualty
Didn't expect Ranni team to win at all. I guess Renala is just that good when she has meat shield for her
her damage output is insane
@@kaikart123 Especially when you consider you're like RL30-50 ish when you fight her chronologically.
Malekith: The one character who can defeat Malenia in a 1v1, even if it kills him in the process
Malenia: I am Malenia, blade of Miquella, and I have never know defeat.
Maliketh: I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes
Maliketh has one power no other god can hope to match: cutscene damage
I find it a little funny that Ranni didn't actually do anything. In game, she's probably not programmed for combat, but still funny that she just kinda sits there watching everyone else do the work.
It's very in character of her honestly if ranni needs something done she has her goon squad do it.
Need radahn dead?
Send that tarnished you met
Need Godwin dead?
Send black knives
Need to get the finger slayer?
Tarnished time
Hell even the ranalla we fight is a projection by ranni
her biggest weakness is how easily she staggers, so having multiple attackers is way more of an advantage than it is against other bosses.
Gotta say for a boss vs boss video this is really well edited and cinematic. Great Job.
Godrick: "I'm the Lord of all that is golden!"
Malenia: "Like I would give a dung..."
I like how Ranni didn't even have to do anything, she just sat there and watched.
Seeing you flying around as a teeny tiny tarnished was hilariously distracting and now I can't unnotice it.
The Morgott-team battle freaking killed me 😂
All that firepower just raining down in waves and STILL Malenia is just like, NOO!
Also, I respect that Maliketh was the only one that could win on his own, albeit at the cost of his life. I think he and Malenia are the strongest warriors in the story. One is an Empyrean with celestial powers and the other is the master of Death itself, with a history of having killed an Empyrean in the past.
Maliketh in lore is more than likely the strongest creature outside of Marika herself. Even the demigods feared the black blade. That being said, Malenia and Radahn before he got super aids could have prolly killed him in a team up, but he’s still in a league only comparable with Marika herself.
@@austaryxthelastofthesane3870 Yeah, with Death at his command, I think he simply had something the others didn’t. I’m curious what kind of powers Marika possessed because I just read the description that stated she killed the fell god of the Fire Giants. So, I’m wondering what she had that allowed her to also kill gods. It’s interesting.
@@queenvictoriann What she has done there must definitely have been huge. I'm not sure about the conclusion here, but in Placidusax's descriptions it's written that he was the elden lord in the era of a felled god living outside time.
It may be the same fire god Marika managed to defeat.
Also in Radahn's Heirloom talisman, it's said that he was the mightiest hero of Demigods.
@@avdima5000 Yeah maybe it was that one! Interesting.
And yeah, Radahn is definitely the strongest demigod, but the characters I mentioned, Maliketh, Malenia, and Marika are not demigods. Maliketh is a beast and Malenia + Marika are Empyreans. That’s why I felt confident saying what I said about Maliketh and Malenia being extremely powerful.
Radahn: I must go. My planet needs me.
When Maliketh fightings for some reason I hear Tyler's " get this shit off me aaaaaaaa"
Godrick had a whole Winds of Destruction team, and still couldn't beat the redhead.
I love how the demigods and their squad walk in like a WWE entrance
The funny part is how much worse this would have gone for Malenia if Ranni herself fought. Ranni is the only character in the game shown to be able to just delete people outright without ever attacking -- or even moving, for that matter. All your health gone instantaneously.
Also: Stupid overtuned murder crow is MVP.
The presentation here was absolutely top notch!
Malenia: "I fear no man but that thing"
*Let me solo her*
"It scares me"
Really love how you did this video, adding the cutscenes between fights made it feel more cinematic.
I thought Renalla's battle might be close due to her being a zoner with high DPS who can hide behind minions, but the moment I saw Tiche on the lineup I knew they had the win. Tiche is incredible vs Malenia, and can hold her own for extended periods against everything short of Waterfowl Dance (which usually does around half her health give or take). She staggers Malenia with almost every hit, can dunk her out of her jumping moves, and dodges an extraordinary number of her hits just by spamming her drift dodge. One of the few exceptions to the "don't summon against Melania" rule, alongside Mimic Tear cheese strats.
I wish so bad we could do the Tiche drift.
Tiche's AI is also incredibly intuitive. You can clearly see she dodged the scarlet bloom, and I know she did because even in my fights with Malenia, Tiche always dodged the bloom. I honestly believe that if you take away Malenia's healing attacks, Tiche might actually beat her 1 on 1. People always pick Melina or Ranni as the best girl in Elden Ring but man, Tiche is my ride or die and I would gladly be her consort. LOL
Don't forget my boy dung eater
@@gaymer2698 I've heard good things about him. Alas, I gave the potion to Gideon before I realized he was even an option. A sin for another playthrough I suppose.
@@connorshaw7649 you're missing so much stuff bro he is the coolest not because of his stats(they are pretty good tho) but because he can do a weird spell where you do extra damage to the boss
Interestingly, every outcome is supported by the lore of the game! Godrick the weak runt, Radahn technically fought her to a standstill, Rykard was gearing up to devour the gods and did so! Mohg I’m actually not sure about, but Ranni is said to be powerful enough to take on anyone in her own territory which is why she doesn’t leave her tower, and Maliketh should be able to take on, if not kill Malenia due to the power of Destined Death. Very cool video with very cool outcomes
Love that ranni and rykard took revenge for what malenia did to their big bro
I love the idea but when you said ''elite soldiers'' I was expecting enemies you fight to get to that boss or those he could potentially recruit to fight with him. Enemies that could be associated with like the area at least if not the boss himself. 2 of Mogh's ''soldiers'' would have made way more sense for Rykard or Morgott for instance since they're found in Altus and Mt. Gelmir.
very good video, I just looked at the view count and I'm shocked, I hope this blows up. The intros were really cool, you clearly put some effort into this. very cool!
Glad you enjoyed this, thx for the support. I am just making videos I find interesting and put on internet, view count doesn't bother me at all :)
whoa seeing Malenia keep up with 5 boss at the same time is pretty impressive, and woaaaaa big gg to Maliketh !
the thing with malenia is that shes extremely easy to stagger. I remember going in with 2 collosal swords and a mimic, getting her doen to a third hp in second phase at try #3.
Try a 1v1 just you and her
@@paris5831 burn o flame
Something very cathartic about seeing malenia get beat up like this.
Fun fact: Malenia is only 'undefeated' because she hasn't fought 90% of the cast. She beat Godrick who as we all know is a joke in terms of dueling power. Radahn is questionable. Simps from both side gonna eat my head if I make a statement so ignoring him. But besides those two she hasn't fought anyone worthy enough for her moniker of being "undefeated" to even matter.
I'll list a few people in the lore who would stomp on her
- Radagon, her daddy (and mommy?)
- Godfrey, arguably stronger than Radagon since as Horah Loux he was monstrous enough to become elden lord and his power was actually sealed via Serosh and his grace taken away since the greater will considered him a threat if he turned against them.
- The black knife order, literally people who are skilled in the art of slaying demi gods.
- Morgott, this is a theory/speculation since he never took part in the war. However, if you watch the opening cutscene it shows him destroying Radahn 1v1 to protect the capital from his advance. He literally came out of the sewers and bitch slapped Radahn into submission (back then Radahn wasn't the starscourge and wasn't a master of gravity magic and also was hence much smaller in size)
- Malekith. He is the shade of Marika herself, implying he was capable or at least had the power to kill Marika/Radagon if he ever wished to do so (same logic as Blaidd being stronger than Ranni).
I only agree with Radagon and Malekith. Everything else is stupid as fuck
agreed
Lore wise, she is the only Demi-god offspring that has achieved godhood. Unless you count Rykard because he lets the serpent devour him and assimilate himself into it or Ranni who only became one at the end of the story. Mohg got power from the formless mother is probably very close to godhood as well, also it is also implied that Ranni is indeed, quite powerful, her mother Renalla is a mortal that has power comparable to a demi god, Ranni 's illusion magic alone is Renalla phase 2, that's just 1 single spell from Ranni lol. Radagon/ Marika is probably the same person, that or Radagon is a hidden god chosen by the Elden beast. Isn't it weird that only Malenia and Miquella suffer from weird divine syndrome while the other demi-gods don't? Close blood offspring or selfcest? Also both of them are said to possess tremendous divine power, to the point Miquella was trying to grow into a real god, and Malenia is the only one who actually ascended (well except Ranni at the end of the story).
Radahn was told to be the strongest of them all (but that was a really long past, he practically only roaming the battle field and eating coprse after the war with Malenia, if anything that version of Radahn only decline in power, and Radahn power grown after Morgott beat him, and so can any other living demi-gods). And Malenia at that time is still one of the youngest demi-gods.
Maliketh is actually a possibility because he is Marika/Radagon shadow beast, he is, in a way, hold a part of an actual god. And his power is meant to kill everything, as a symbol of the order power, it was not merely a normal power, but power granted by the greater will, a representation of power to uphold the order in its will.
@@clorkmagnus you said the same thing he did
@@clorkmagnus Malenia is not demi god but empyrean, since she's born to Marika/Radagon who is the same person. so that make her empyrean and not demi god. so she's way stronger then everyone else. also can't wait to have an DLC with Miquella as a boss would be insane
Kind of interesting that the same concept holds true for your fight against her as it does for the bosses fight against her it all depends on whether she decides to waterfowl or not.
i beat Maliketh on my 2nd attempt ( on the 1st i fell into the void ) , and the last fight made me respect him more
Build: Claymore with default ash of war +25
2nd hand banished knight's greatsword +24
"That lifesteal is a fucking bullshit for someone that rotting"
- All of them and the tarnished
Tbh i don't know what i expected when Radahn jumped out of the arena lol (that dodge at the beginning of her 2nd phase tho)
Mohg wasnt even able to nihil his unus, sad.
Radahn running away from the Scarlet Bloom like he was having flashbacks from Vietnam.
8:28 that godskin needs to join the NBA with that yeet lol.
Great video. I was trying to guess the carian family squad. I had them all except the Tiche. Thought it was gonna be that carian warrior who guards Rennalas Elevator.
Rykard, Mohg and Maliketh are my favorite boss designs! they are so cool. nice to see they did pretty good :)
In Mohg’s fight, once i saw that he had the rune farming bird…i knew it was DONE
If AI adjustments could be made to optimize for these types of fights I think she would've won all the fights even if it was done for both sides. Like Melania targeting out the weaker enemies in the groups and not dodging as often at time to trade damage with her healing ability. AI in Elden has a bad habit of targeting who last hit them allowing for juggling well. In the Rykard and Mogh fight she ended up getting smacked around trying to dodge large AOEs when she could've switched to offensive focus and downed out a couple in her first phase. Then in the Ranni fight had she targeted Renalla first she probably would've dropped her quickly avoiding a lot of the magic damage she took from a less mobile fighter. Maliketh is a fight that had he started in phase 1 and switched to phase 2 at half would've lost without her tanking so many extra black flame dots stacking. In the Rykard fight I think it would have ultimately come down to if she could get rid of the adds. Once it was just her and him despite his massive health bar she would've just out healed his damage till he died I believe.
if she was programmed to spam the aeonia and waterfowl then she would win against any npc. therefore the point is not to optimize, but to just have fun
No. We aren't here to make sure malenia wins.
It makes no sense for Maliketh to start as Gurranq, he knows how powerful Malenia is he's not just gonna rely on beast magic lol
I mean she already has some absurd tweeks in terms of her move set. It would make more sense to balance the other bosses to be harder, than to make her more broken. She has some pretty cheap ass abilities.
10:35 after all that damage and chaos i like how she does aoe slash and looks like shes teleporting
Edit:she was also near 2nd phase...damn
Godrick should have just brought his pet birds, I'd rage quit if I had to fight 10 of those little shits and a few dogs.
Ranni was just sitting there getting pushed around
In fairness given phase 1 and 2 rykard can solo any boss in the game he really didn't need his team mates with team sheer amount of health he has given his first phase was given too him.
Maliketh
@@Ruggo612 yeah his sword does hp % dmg so it gives no fucks about how much hp u have
Yeah Maliketh wouldn't make sense if you gave him friends, Rykard didn't need any either..tbh..but Maliketh has a Draconic Knight, multiple dragons, the God Skin duo she would have been destroyed in a matter of seconds.
The godskin duo are sworn enemies of Maliketh
same area =/= allies. Maliketh literally killed the godskins’ queen
@@chokonnit7337: There are things called traitors, and I'm not up to speed on WHY there is Godskin Nobles defending a Dragon Temple, friend. ☕🗿 I mean they get spawned in and can get infinitely revived, they could not be real but copies that are forced to fight but who knows?
@@Patches_Gaming No. read the godskin swaddling cloth. they were all raised and made to fight under the queen. their weapons, clothes, and blackflame are signs that they are still part of her army otherwise they wouldn’t be called godskin now would they 🍼🗿
@@chokonnit7337: I may not have that, but I doubt they would even take off their clothes, or Miyazaki would even make a special one who bears rags/clothes instead of skin.
Malenia: "The scarlet bloom flowers once more... Now you will witness true horror."
Radahn, flying into orbit: "lmao"
Man, Radahn really went "I'm getting the fuck outa here" when she used her Scarlet rot ninetails flower thingy
Maliketh vs Malenia is pretty much 50/50 depending on how each of their AI's react, mostly on Maliketh's part.
Lorewise, he's also fighting with a handicap since he only has a small fragment of destined death. 🙃
That's in Malenia's arena though. In his own where half his moveset doesn't bug out while the other half using the pillars isn't restricted, he literally wins 10/10 times, it's been tested. Handicap just makes him win only 3/5 fights. He makes her his bitch.
Godskin Apostle just socked her in the face and broke her stance.
Godskins goated.
Everyone waiting for Radahn to come down like an asteroid be like: "Where's the kaboom? The was supposed to be a demigod-shattering kaboom!"
Were the challengers buffed? I have a very hard time believing godrick & stormviel could make it so far
Otherwise, awesome video. Loved the editing and premise!
I also want to mention, in-lore, the most capable candidates for "winning" the shattering and beating the demigods are Mohg, Rykard, and Malenia. I believe if the Tarnished hadn't come along, Rykard would have done it first. He was the most prepared at that point, the most willing, the most potential to grow (literally) and extraordinarily strong himself.
It is hard to explain. I wrote a long reply for you but deleted it and decide to give you a slightly simplified answer.
The final stats of an npc is base stats from database * stage multiplier. Godrick soldier and Haligtree soldier has the same base stats, but receive different stage multipliers, Haligtree soldiers end up having a lot more HP and hit a lot harder despite the fact they share the same stats with Godrick soldier in databank. Godrick has base HP 3354 while Malenia has 2489. Stormveil stage has a HP multiplier about 2, haligtree is around 9. The demigods and elites I put in the arena receives a multiplier of roughly 7. What all these means is Stormveil Godrick has about 3354*2 HP, Malenia in Haligtree has about 2489*9 HP for p1, 2489*9*0.82 for p2. Godrick in this video has about 3354*7 HP. Damage multiplier is also different. The demigods and warriors I put in arena receives lvl 11 multiplier, while Malenia perhaps receives lvl 13-15 multiplier.
If you think removing stage multiplier differences is what a fair fight is, then Godrick and all other demigods and warriors are nerfed in this fight. If you think using in-game final stats is fair, then they are all buffed.
@@adherentoftheoceangoddess5496 ah, I see. Thanks!
@@jettisonantics Yeah... I think Melania was just sitting around waiting to die. If some DLC brings about a return of Miquella it might change my opinion here (since it would likely rouse Melania back to life again...... somehow I just don't envision Mohg gaining any advantage from Miquella no matter how much he'd like to) but all things going as they were, Rykard was at least actively amping himself up for it still.
@@lenajohnson6179 I disagree about Mohg. Up to the current point, Mohg has been in his blood form inside miquella's cacoon, dowsing him in his own accursed blood, and with the blood of others that his knights give him, trying to "corrupt" Miquella in a similar way that the blood nobles and red albinurics are. And it's clearly taken effect. Miquella looks much larger than a child, and his arms are the same dark gray hue as Mohg's, and wrinkly as hell. Clearly, the blood has been working. It's only up to guess what will happen when he awakens. That being said, I think Miquella will be a big part of DLC, if it is coming.
i like how radahn ran away the moment she pulled out the scarlet rot
he's like: i aint falling for that shit again
Obviously, Radhan put so much power into that jump that he literally warped into our dimension and made a hole through the middle of Limgrave all the way into Nokron. That makes so much sense now
bruh malenia spams her flower move cuz she knows she loses otherwise
In all fairness she’s literally being ganged up on lol
What's with all of y'all treating Melania so harshly lol.
That one move, Scarlet Aeonia is how she tied w Radhan, that one move aside she couldnt match him at all
@@shreksmeatballs9435 people might be salty about how hard her fight was lmao
@@shreksmeatballs9435 radahn simps...
Moge and melania both fighting for Mequilla is some fine ass poetry
It basically comes down to "can they survive the flower nuke?" because her first phase can't do shit with so little poise.
This video is proof that mage builds and bleed builds are at an inherent advantage against mally
Do not forget that Melania has her scarletrot knights
As in the lore,malekith was the shadow of Marika and if you don’t know what shadows are then lemme explain :
Shadows are the beings created to protect their master at any cost whatsoever and if the master go hollow they will have to kill the master too,so with this we can assume maliketh was stronger than Marika a literal god,and was bestowed destined death (by Marika) to protect.but our four handed waifu stole it and killed Godwyn the first of the demigods to die,thus starting the shattering now,what I mean to say is the man is not even at his full power right now because he doesn’t have that piece of destined death in his possession,and even in lore all the empyreans and Demi gods feared the one with the destined death,he was a literal god killer so,even if we get to see prime malenia vs prime malekith my bet will be on the one with the destined death.
Aaaaand he is also a cat in the armour which is cute…
Source : vaatividya the all knowing.
ALL HAIL RENNALA! LUNAR QUEEN!
This is pretty much the essence of Elden Ring, if you can't beat them by yourself, you can always gang up on them.
It's hard to take radahn seriously in a fight, when he is a giant riding on such a thin looking horse.
Speaking of, looks like enough sanity came back to him at the last moment for him to nope out of there
Radahn: *flew away*
Malenia: See you space cowboy...
holy shit, that opener from the Morgott team felt personal
God this video is so cathartic, very pleasing to see this edgy weeb valkyrie wannabe get obliterated.
She did win the majority of her matches though lol
legends say all the demigods fear maliketh