Pro chargers love the high rpms and the ability to constantly be at 6500-8000 with a 10 speed is awesome with a pro charger. The guy was Nose diving bad between gears. Guessing he is newish too a manual or that car. Not banging gears at all. Pro charger sounds 190% better so in the end it’s cheaper, easier to install and sounds better. Pro charger for the win. Lol
I have to say you are making some really solid vids nowadays. The whipple was the best addition to your channel thus far. Remember when you first got the GT and hadn’t driven stick in a while and now you’re ripping through the gears.
With manual cars driver goes a long way. I've installed nitrous, blowers and turbos on manual vehicles, go to the track with them and run a second or more faster with just me driving the car and nothing else.
You can make good power with a positive displacement or centrifugal supercharger. It's all about the combination and tuning. When it comes to racing. The tire, gearing and transmission all play a roll. If it's a manual that makes a huge difference depending on experience of the driver.
With a manual transmission the driver's experience plays a huge role. Gearing is also a huge factor. Centrifugal superchargers need more aggressive gearing since they don't make good low end torque.
I love when people say "oh his car is faster but it couldn't hook" That means his car isn't faster lol. It might make more power but if his set up wont let him use all of it then its pointless.
I have an F1A-94 Procharger on my 06 3V and it's an absolute monster ! I'd love to put it up against a whipple to see. No dyno yet, but it feels way stronger than my 2.3L TVS I had previously.
Awesome content bro as always, these races legit leave me grinning everytime I see the notification! Your car is most definitely a factory freak, just so much clean power for the money spent.
looked like some good clean races. both cars are making well over 600 WHP(one of them is making 750 if i remember correctly from the other day) and if i had a car, i'd probably be scared to race either one of these two cars!
Just got my stage 1 whipple on my 2020 a couple months ago, beast. Took down a 19 zl1 pretty easily. Both of us were on 91 octane manual cars. Digging the channel
Looked pretty close to me, for the most part until the top end of the higher gears the Whippled Mustang seems to really start pulling. That Procharger blow-off sounds pretty cool though.
Awesome content as always, Rush. After multiple WOT pulls like that back to back, you notice any power loss? Curious how the Gen 5 Whipple handles the heatsoak since I've heard different things from different people. Anyway, keep up the good work, bud!
Seems like the white mustang is a inexperienced driver with a clutch. Slippery clutch will not lay power down. With that kind of power and same torque as yours Rush he should of pulled away all day. Driver for the win Bro!
It seems like a roots style supercharger would be best for a manual transmission because the instant power will kinda compensate for the time between shifts and that a centrifugal or turbo system is best for the 10spd with the closer gear ratios and faster shifts🤷♂️ But what do I know, I'm just an NA boy right now
Spot on. The pro charger in a 3.55 a10 is a nasty set up. The 10 speed is always at the top of the rev range when shifting at WOT. The lack of low end torque becomes a non issue there. Also, from a dig, the lack of torque down low makes traction more manageable than a roots style charger.
I just yesterday got a challenger rt and I'm super happy with it. Definitely not one of the real big boys but it's a v8 and I love it. I'm kind of interested in doing some runs with people who are close in speed to a stock 5.7 while it's still stock. Lmk if anyone wants to meet up! I'm in south Jersey btw
Really think the procharged car with a better driver would been a closer race, either way both cars are running hard, and both cars need better tires to put the power down.
I’d say the rear-end gearing could’ve been a big factor, maybe the actual transmission gearing is different ?, I’m not sure. Buddy with the procharger may need to look at different suspension upgrades and tire upgrades if doing these roll races is his thing, you can have 900 horsepower but if it doesn’t hook then it’s no good.
One last thing any Great Shops and Tuners? Obviously I’ll be looking at Mopar/SRT Shops, but would appreciate names of any Great Shops and Tuners? Thanks Again! God Speed
Lol it was obvious that the procharger driver didn't know how to drive it cause Rush was banging through the gears while the other guy was nose diving between his gears
With the procharger you need tall gears because all the HP is in the higher RPM range. I have 3.55's on my 2015 auto (i know auto is lame but its my daily and i live in a city) but with the help of a longer power band the thing pulls forever. I'm on procharger's tune and would guess i probably make 670ish to the wheels so if he claims to be making 740 he's got to be on a custom tune and just have short gears. I believe the performance pack comes stock with 3.71's which doesn't allow the procharger to really reach full boost.
The Whipple has boost out the hole but the Procharger pulls much better up top. At a dragstrip, Procharger, in street, Whipple. Properly managed procharger, procharger either case. procharger has the new IE Which allows boost like a Whipple off the go. Another thing is I've never seen a Whipple stage 2 put out low to mid 600's as they also push over 700hp and depending on pulley closer to 800!!
I mean the super and pro chargers kick in at different rpm’s so didn’t this just go how we expected it to? My understanding is the pro charger would win at top speeds every time
I think that the races came down to gearing. If the white stang weighs the same but has 80 more hp he shouldn’t be getting left at the top of 4th especially if top end is where the procharger is suppose to shine. I’ll take the whipple ftw 💪🏾
Actually the white mustang weighs less since it’s not a performance pack and the procharger adds less weight compared to the whipple also my car is the premium model so it’s a pig 🐷. But yeah I thought he would come around but the Whipple with some decent fuel in the tank gets moving 🚀
Less maintenance with the Whipple. You don't have to change the "oil" in the Whipple. With the Procharger you have to change the head unit oil every 6k miles or so. The Whipple is way more reliable for a daily. It's worth the extra cost, trust me.
Depends when you want your power personally if I’m spending the money I wanted to have the power noticeable all through out the RPM band not just up top.
@@RushShift Agreed. Especially driving up a steep incline you can really feel the difference down low with a PD blower compared to a peaky centri. Daily driving with the Whipple around town, which 90% of people are usually doing in their Mustangs, makes the car feel like it has a much bigger engine.
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Neither of you wanted to admit it but you walked him in 4th most of the runs
Rush is almost too respectful 😂
Right! Too humble
White mustang was ripping the tires off I think it would be closer if he could really hammer it
Ya u can see rush misses a few shifts by milliseconds coulda really left him a few times
I was waiting for the,” So now we’re in Mexico guys”.. 😂😂
Seems the 740whp Procharged mustang was using an extremely generous dyno.
100% i think he mean it was 640
Exactly lol
Prochargers are only good for peak numbers. I’ve never seen a centri out perform any other boost application with similar hp
@@prestonsaunders8056 Baloney. All the speed records are held by centris.
Or he can’t drive
Found your channel yesterday, absolutely love the channel! Binged a whole bunch of videos. Keep up the incredible amazing work
Pro chargers love the high rpms and the ability to constantly be at 6500-8000 with a 10 speed is awesome with a pro charger. The guy was Nose diving bad between gears. Guessing he is newish too a manual or that car. Not banging gears at all. Pro charger sounds 190% better so in the end it’s cheaper, easier to install and sounds better. Pro charger for the win. Lol
I have to say you are making some really solid vids nowadays. The whipple was the best addition to your channel thus far. Remember when you first got the GT and hadn’t driven stick in a while and now you’re ripping through the gears.
I want to hear a cold start on your 5.0 on a cold early morning 🤤
Interesting. I was expecting the procharged to lurch ahead at higher RPMs, but it was the other way around.
With manual cars driver goes a long way. I've installed nitrous, blowers and turbos on manual vehicles, go to the track with them and run a second or more faster with just me driving the car and nothing else.
Rush has more aggressive gears
The whipple 3.0 is like that it pulls good up top. An edlebrock 2650 hits a lot harder down low but doesn't have the steam up top like the whipple.
You can make good power with a positive displacement or centrifugal supercharger. It's all about the combination and tuning. When it comes to racing. The tire, gearing and transmission all play a roll. If it's a manual that makes a huge difference depending on experience of the driver.
With a manual transmission the driver's experience plays a huge role. Gearing is also a huge factor. Centrifugal superchargers need more aggressive gearing since they don't make good low end torque.
A friend has a pro charged 2017 and I know how fast it moves. This just shows what a beast your car is. Video doesn't do justice 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Im not a mustang guy but that sound 🤤🤤
The procharger sounds like a person who has to sneeze in public so they try to hold it in lol
A race between your 392 and my boss 302 would be sick bro 💪🏻
That procharger sounded amazing 🤤
CompOrangeBoss This race needs to happen
John Shukeireh yeah I’ve seen his challenger take out lots of coyote, I wanna see how my Stock roadrunner stacks up 😎
I'd like to see this
392 finna gap that 302
julian mares I wanna find out 😇
I wasn’t a fan of the newer mustangs, but you’ve been showing me what they can’t do and slowly making me want one 😂
I love when people say "oh his car is faster but it couldn't hook" That means his car isn't faster lol. It might make more power but if his set up wont let him use all of it then its pointless.
Whipple all day for me. I'm currently building a 1000hp plus with an LS3 Build. Nice work on both cars though 👍🏽
I have an F1A-94 Procharger on my 06 3V and it's an absolute monster ! I'd love to put it up against a whipple to see. No dyno yet, but it feels way stronger than my 2.3L TVS I had previously.
Awesome content bro as always, these races legit leave me grinning everytime I see the notification! Your car is most definitely a factory freak, just so much clean power for the money spent.
Good runs n the video content was spot on!! Good comparison n you can’t go wrong with either setup 👌🏻
looked like some good clean races. both cars are making well over 600 WHP(one of them is making 750 if i remember correctly from the other day) and if i had a car, i'd probably be scared to race either one of these two cars!
Rush knows how to drive his car. That was an example rite there....
Just got my stage 1 whipple on my 2020 a couple months ago, beast. Took down a 19 zl1 pretty easily. Both of us were on 91 octane manual cars. Digging the channel
Those runs were so clean lol good shit rush !
The only youtuber who can make me watch Mustangs and not hate them😁 your stang is too nice!
I wasn’t expecting no close runs bro! This is some AWSOME 1320 action 🔥🔥
That looks like A Paxton not a ProCharger. Procharger is Mounted on place of where the cold air box is. And this is where Vortech/Paxton mounts
Procharger makes special emission concerned kits that mount where Paxton's do for california cars. You can see this on their website
Only guy I know get a 18+ manual lol . I love manual but that 10 spd is crazy
Love the videos bro. Keep grinding man!!
Can someone count how many times the owner of the 2018 Mustang GT said “uhh” I lost count😂😂😂😂
Uhh 🤷
Yeah he was completely lost
Looked pretty close to me, for the most part until the top end of the higher gears the Whippled Mustang seems to really start pulling. That Procharger blow-off sounds pretty cool though.
Damn these videos make me want to boost mine 😕🤘🏻
Ayyyyy ima subscriber of you, dooo it 👀
Rubber Duggy ayy hell yea 🤘🏻 soon bro I’m saving up for it lol
Adrians550 subbed to you, like the content
JJ thanks bro! I appreciate that 🤘🏻
Dont lol. He has a back up car; and unless you do I would not recommend it. I learned that the hard way.
Awesome I been stuck between a supercharger & a turbo ;; awesome run guys
Gears make all the difference. One of the most slept on things in racing for most
AØ facts
AØ idk if the white 5.0 got 3.73s or not if not that’s what he need so the car will stay in high rpm range
Awesome content as always, Rush. After multiple WOT pulls like that back to back, you notice any power loss? Curious how the Gen 5 Whipple handles the heatsoak since I've heard different things from different people. Anyway, keep up the good work, bud!
Seems like the white mustang is a inexperienced driver with a clutch. Slippery clutch will not lay power down. With that kind of power and same torque as yours Rush he should of pulled away all day. Driver for the win Bro!
Those sneezes 🥵❤️
Good Content was waiting for this definitely helping choose which boost option I’ll go with
Bless you on ever upshift.
You really need to get a camera mount. Cant see much because you gotta look at the road.
Procharger needs a driver mod plus brake boosting
It seems like a roots style supercharger would be best for a manual transmission because the instant power will kinda compensate for the time between shifts and that a centrifugal or turbo system is best for the 10spd with the closer gear ratios and faster shifts🤷♂️ But what do I know, I'm just an NA boy right now
Good analysis never really thought about it like that
Spot on. The pro charger in a 3.55 a10 is a nasty set up. The 10 speed is always at the top of the rev range when shifting at WOT. The lack of low end torque becomes a non issue there. Also, from a dig, the lack of torque down low makes traction more manageable than a roots style charger.
I just yesterday got a challenger rt and I'm super happy with it. Definitely not one of the real big boys but it's a v8 and I love it. I'm kind of interested in doing some runs with people who are close in speed to a stock 5.7 while it's still stock. Lmk if anyone wants to meet up! I'm in south Jersey btw
Congrats man
No one is close in speed to the challenger 5.7 because there slow
*the owner* sound like Rush himself talk by himself but with adjusted of him own voice.. ha ha
I expected the Procharger to absolutely take off at the end because of all the boost, but woah, the Whipple ain't joking
Can we get "So we’re gonna make a quick run Mexico” merch?
Gets some welds bro that spinning is dangerous 🤣
Wat are welds
Cocky 5.0 procharge mustang calls out my 5.0 whippled mustang
These videos make me want to get my Procharged LS3 Swapped 4th gen Camaro done even sooner
Good runs and both cars are beast look forward to more content
Really think the procharged car with a better driver would been a closer race, either way both cars are running hard, and both cars need better tires to put the power down.
Cars are close! Both fast AF...
The transmissions also have different gearing in those two mustangs
Those where some good runs!!!! 💪🏼💪🏼
740 is pretty good. What’s the tune?Any other upgrades? Drive Shaft , axles , oil pump gears? Suspension?
Bring theses videos back rush,!
I like the pools. Have you ever done from a stan Still?
That pro charger sounds like a airplane lmfaoooo
Rush you didn't say movin and groovin!
I’d say the rear-end gearing could’ve been a big factor, maybe the actual transmission gearing is different ?, I’m not sure. Buddy with the procharger may need to look at different suspension upgrades and tire upgrades if doing these roll races is his thing, you can have 900 horsepower but if it doesn’t hook then it’s no good.
The difference between u guys was that Rush took a shit before the race and was lighter than the other guy
bro dont look sideways going that fast... stick a camera for side shot. stay safe
That's either a paxton or vortech, definitely not a procharger and it definitely doesn't make 740 rwhp.
🤦
TT A10 5.0 all day baby!
One last thing any Great Shops and Tuners? Obviously I’ll be looking at Mopar/SRT Shops, but would appreciate names of any Great Shops and Tuners?
Thanks Again! God Speed
Great race! I would like to see how it would go when he gets a short throw shifter.
What’s up man are you on a drag pack?
Wow Procharger kicked your ass
I'd love to see ur gen 5 Whipple against a VMP gen3r
I love manual trans and I love the comparisons between. Also, I have always been a fanboy of white cars, but your Stang is killing.
Agree gotta like the manmitions
Lol it was obvious that the procharger driver didn't know how to drive it cause Rush was banging through the gears while the other guy was nose diving between his gears
What is nose diving
@@cleon5766 when theres a gap in power inbetween shifts and the cars front end drops
I think it's time for two gopros one looking out ur driverside window so we can see u gapem lol aka gap cam lol
With the procharger you need tall gears because all the HP is in the higher RPM range. I have 3.55's on my 2015 auto (i know auto is lame but its my daily and i live in a city) but with the help of a longer power band the thing pulls forever. I'm on procharger's tune and would guess i probably make 670ish to the wheels so if he claims to be making 740 he's got to be on a custom tune and just have short gears. I believe the performance pack comes stock with 3.71's which doesn't allow the procharger to really reach full boost.
Great sport! Stand up guys
Is that the Procharger making that “pshew” sound when it changes gears?
*Bump* anyone have any info?
That's his blow off valve yes
nice sounds and dope cars.
I’m looking into a Whipple stage 2 and curious what exactly do I need? Just order the complete stage 2 kit and that’s everything I need?
damn thats close though.
Hmh, I think it was his rear gear ratio...
You definitely earned my sub
The Whipple has boost out the hole but the Procharger pulls much better up top. At a dragstrip, Procharger, in street, Whipple.
Properly managed procharger, procharger either case.
procharger has the new IE Which allows boost like a Whipple off the go.
Another thing is I've never seen a Whipple stage 2 put out low to mid 600's as they also push over 700hp and depending on pulley closer to 800!!
U have shorter gears though so that helps quite a bit js !
Looks like it’s a paxton/vortech kit not a procharger. Procharger brackets are typically on the driver side unless it was modified somehow
Carb legal kit is mounted different so you could use the factory air box
U should make hoodies of side boo no cap I can c it already looking fresh asf
It’s going to play a roll on how the roll plays out lol
What tire you running, Rush?
I mean the super and pro chargers kick in at different rpm’s so didn’t this just go how we expected it to? My understanding is the pro charger would win at top speeds every time
Can I ask what rear tires u were running? What kind
Is it me but the location of the white cars blower is not where the procharger goes thats where the paxton/vortech goes is not a procharger
The real winner is our ears
Bro I am in the process of buying a Camaro but every time i see your videos with that digital dash I want a mustang 😭
Get a mustang bro, trust
Get a mustang!! I had the choice of either a Mustang or Camaro went with the Mustang and I don’t regret it...
Maro nation 😤🤷🏾♂️
Come to the dark side #stang
Camaro has a digital dash as well
What’s up Rush 🔥
18 gt p1x making 740whp - stock pulley? If it is those numbers have to be wrong. I'm at 600 stock pulley identical setup
600? Ouch. Must be some bad fuel in your case.
@@tekron03 Its what procharger says the car should make stock pulley on 93 octane
@@mitchbutler4736 What psi / size pulley?
He procharged mustang isn't using high gears to pull hard. He needs to use run it on lower gear. And at 6 psi its amazing its making 740whp.
Very good runs.
gears make a diff
I think that the races came down to gearing. If the white stang weighs the same but has 80 more hp he shouldn’t be getting left at the top of 4th especially if top end is where the procharger is suppose to shine. I’ll take the whipple ftw 💪🏾
Actually the white mustang weighs less since it’s not a performance pack and the procharger adds less weight compared to the whipple also my car is the premium model so it’s a pig 🐷. But yeah I thought he would come around but the Whipple with some decent fuel in the tank gets moving 🚀
Rush Shift might be time to do a fuel system and make that a permanent upgrade. Love the car man she’s a beast in the streets
It’s coming but I figure enjoy it for a bit before taking that next step up. Thanks for watching 💯
Baby pulley got tired 😪
Rush Shift get those oil pump gears!
Shoulda done a dig race. That's where the procharger would have shined.
Pro charger for 6k vs 8k for whipple... I might go pro charger, love the sound too...
What do you think rush? Is the extra money worth it?
Less maintenance with the Whipple. You don't have to change the "oil" in the Whipple. With the Procharger you have to change the head unit oil every 6k miles or so. The Whipple is way more reliable for a daily. It's worth the extra cost, trust me.
Depends when you want your power personally if I’m spending the money I wanted to have the power noticeable all through out the RPM band not just up top.
@@RushShift Agreed. Especially driving up a steep incline you can really feel the difference down low with a PD blower compared to a peaky centri. Daily driving with the Whipple around town, which 90% of people are usually doing in their Mustangs, makes the car feel like it has a much bigger engine.
Interesting, great info. Thank you.
Whipple FTW
I don’t know how anyone can get past the UGLY in a mustang to ever want one.
Why are you still on whipple stock tune instead of Lund or pbd?
Because I need a fuel system and some other supporting mods before I turn up the power.
The 373s made the difference.