The problem is not just habit ... The problem is that ppl must be able to isk tank this habit. If you lose more than what you earn you literally cant play the game so you cant even lose ships anymore... Ofc corporations can help with that
"Try different things, and something will click"....This right here is truth. I've broadened my horizons quite a bit the past couple months. It was a complete game changer for me. Good advice.
Used to be a PVE/Mining in Eve Echoes back then. Tried the PC version and discovered how thrilling Exploration and hacking data sites are. At first I did PvE but it was super slow and I only like to play frigates so it was even harder but when the corp I joined recommended exploration, I did it and in a single day, I managed to buy an Astero, Worm, and Succubus I started 12 days ago
This channel and rookie chat helped me learn the game(basics) in 3 months, I love it. Have been a Omega for a week now, even more fun. Going to get a microphone and try to join CatSkull Corp next.
Of late I have been finding my fun living out of a "van". Just a cheap T1 hauler, a cheap T1 frigate, and a willingness to find a system on the map and say, "I want to go there". Meet the locals, learn to make your ships do multiple things, avoid pirates, it's great. Do I make isk off of it? Not really. Making money isn't the point! It's just making my own fun.
Outstanding vid on the introduction to finding your way. Second this - Joining a good corporation helps in so many ways. Yes some corps are better than others, don't be afraid to move around.
Again great vid Captain. Fully agree, It is quite important to find your way in Eve to have fun. Doesn’t matter what, where and how. Thanks for the overview!
That was a really great overview of the main things to do. A few snippets of other things, like ESS robbing, station trading, incursions etc. would have been a nice addition.
Played Eve today, I actually fitted my free Imparior, gave it Sansha crystals, Gatling pulse lasers, armor rep, scram, and a web drone. Slapped a Punisher around like a ragdoll, ticked off a Coercer went toe to toe, stable cap. I call it the Blood Priest. Very enjoyable.
@@jozefkovac6858 Ya, be surprised how easy it is to fool people into attacking it. I was stealing wrecks so I had a target on my back, but survived both fights. Didn't kill, however the Coercer was a close kill if I was able to keep my rep high enough, didn't learn the skill to overheat at that point so it was tough but fun.
Last week I went to a customs office to have my resources and all of a sudden, 3 ships declocked (2 paladin and one smaller) .. I was in a 3 mil transporter :)) it was funny
Great video! I like your approach to the content EVE has to offer, it's the same advice I give to people in Star Citizen: best way to make money? The loop you enjoy the most! Why? Because it's the thing you'll have the most fun in and so it's the path that you can attain the longest
Exactly this!! I hear so many people say things like "I was doing [thing that I really enjoy] then someone told me that [y thing] was better for ISK so I swapped to that. Now I'm burned out on EVE" 😢
@@captainbenzie its almost depressing when you look at how the average gamer heads into a game nowadays; they try to get the highest yield in whatever wealth the game has to offer (amount of currency/level/gear score/rank, whatever) without actually "getting" to enjoy the game. Maybe it's because I'm from a different generation of gamer, where "playing the game" was "the goal", well that and getting the credit roll. But I stumbled upon your videos trying to get a better understanding of EVE Online and to hopefully find a loop that feels entertaining. I've tried it before years ago, but got lost in the vastness of its possibilities. Last year I got back into space games and player driven universes always appealed to me. Since I usually refer to EVE and how CCP built, maintains and expands upon this world, when I talk about impressive MMOs, I figured I'd get back into it and so far I'm enjoying myself quite a bit, even without quite understanding what I'm doing (yet)
@@captainbenzie that, plus that the average gamer almost requires instant gratification to "enjoy" a game (one of the reasons cheating is such a prevalent occurrence). The new AIR system is great for getting (back) into New Eden, although a bunch of things are still rough to grasp for a newbie (or one of the kids distracted me during an ingame tutorial). But so far the pace is filling a much needed gap in my current list of games
Lots of good points discussed. Question: Is there a way to find / get a Gecko BPC that you know of instead of contracts? Since the egg hunt won't occur again this year. It was the only place I knew that the BPC had a chance to drop.
@@captainbenzie Every weekday? I think yt is short changing me. I need to start actually going to the channels I like instead of relying on notifications.
@@joshuacrumley2031 yup. Dinging the notification bell isn't enough. TH-cam makes recommendations based on what you click, and what other people are clicking.
@@captainbenzie you see, people need to subscribe, then ding the bell, then click it again and press on all instead of personalized, then go into TH-cam settings and change them to show all notifications. That's how difficult TH-cam had made it 😂
If you doing mining missions you won't hurt your standing while farming those LP points you get from Pew Pew missions. If you do the Pew Pew Missions you will lose standing with other races. Eventually they will start shooting at you for entering their space.
I’d only take ISK for moving stuff if it was someone in corp who never did hauling, in w-space corps I’d just pay it forward so next time they bring that module or ammo back for you.
Small comment, I don't know how well it all works out for comparative profitability, but mining missions are about earning LP. You are mining store rewards, not ore.
100% jita market never undock, thats my jam im invinsible immortal eternal to my enemy i feel PVE and PVP then pvper sell me pvp and pver stuff then i sell back expensive to pvper and pve er i always win.
how old is eve? im 39 and play eve for more than half of my life i started at 19. if you bought a salvager t1, it was mine. (in highsec, back in the day, i spreaded them around every system, wasnt profitable in like 70% of them. and 303 order dont cover universe) if you bought a cargohold t2, it was mine. thx for the profit
EVE is a niche game, it's not for everyone. But the true fun of it comes from what you achieve with friends. There are dozens of playstyles that you don't experience in the tutorial. So try to get out there, do the career agents, try everything, have fun!
@captainbenzie i think i found what i liked most. Blowing things up. It looks georgius. And i think i found someone whod help me blow more up. O7 i think im gonna play this more often
Its called EvE which stands for Everyone vs Everyone. The most fun to be had is in the PVP. Any other activity in the game is simply done in support of replacing the ships that need to constantly be blown up. Tasks VS "the actual game". Learn about all the ships, one ship at a time, and learn how to kill them. Learn how to not be killed by them. Everyone vs Everyone.
That may be true for YOU, but many others do not enjoy pvp, find it stressful etc. I loved mining and ran 12 toons. Others hated mining and preferred ratting, missioning etc. Thats ok. To claim that pvp is the most fun in eve is narrowminded and doesnt speak about what others may or may not enjoy. I would never be so presumptuous to claim such nonsense just as I never looked down on others that enjoyed other aspects as long as they werent griefing others and being classless.
@@timnosretap7611 Early in my days of eve we were hostile with red alliance. There was a week long CTA. Our CEO told me to stay home and keep them supplied with ships. He saw more value in that vs going out to be tackle. I singlehandedly did that. Mining 12-20 hours a day. If they lost a ship they came back to a new one. It was very rewarding to do so.
When I first started Eve, a vet told me that Eve is pvp...period. Everything else is sugar coating over this fact. Want to mine? You will be hunted and killed. Want to run missions? You will be hunted and killed. For beginners, this can be extremely frustrating. There is no safe activity for beginners. If you are a beginner, just know that you are part of the vet's content (the joy if killing a beginner). Join a corp as soon as you can. The bigger the better. Having said all that, Eve is the only game I've played that gets my heart pumping. That is my fun :)
Sadly thats one aspect that I dislike about eve as do many others. I should have places I can relax after work, when tired etc. I dont expect to get rich but I want to be able to play the game that I PAY for without being bothered by others. Thats an aspect that was nice with elite dangerous. We could run in solo or private modes which was nice. However it also felt empty too. When I returned to the game in 2009 with several new player friends, we got grief war decced by a griefer in an interceptor. After 3 weeks of that I'd had enough and purchased my main. We caught the sob and killed him. He finally stopped and moved on. Sadly it caused several friends to leave the game and never return. Thankfully they have changed this mechanic to only being able to war dec those with structures. However the depth and variety of the game is what often brings me back along with many others.
@@MysticalDragon73 I understand where you're coming from here but there are other games that fill that niche out there, that's not what EVE is meant to be. No game can be for everyone, nor should a game ever try to be. EVE is what EVE is, and it's up to players to decide if that's what they want or not. I wouldn't go into World of Warcraft and demand they add spaceships, nor would I go into Madden and demand a rugby mode. That ability to run solo/private is exactly WHY Elite Dangerous is so empty. You can't have a flourishing world where folks constantly interact, and also offer them a completely safe stay at home experience. EVE Echoes made this mistake too. EVE Online understands and focuses needlepoint onto what it is.
@@MysticalDragon73 I feel ya. My corp built a high sec structure at one point, and we got war decced within a few days. And yes, all but two of us remained in the game because of it. Eve is bitter sweet for sure. I met one of my Eve besties while we were trying to kill each other. You never know what can happen out there, and that is a part of Eve's appeal. When I want alone time to practice etc, I just jump onto the other server, ships are cheap etc.
“Get used to being blown up” This is 100% true and the biggest barrier for people getting the most out of New Eden. Great advice 👌🏼
Thank you
..... It's getting "blowded up" helloooooo
Haha =P
Jk. You're 100% correct lol
The problem is not just habit ... The problem is that ppl must be able to isk tank this habit. If you lose more than what you earn you literally cant play the game so you cant even lose ships anymore... Ofc corporations can help with that
"Try different things, and something will click"....This right here is truth. I've broadened my horizons quite a bit the past couple months. It was a complete game changer for me. Good advice.
Glad it helped!!
@@captainbenzieI heard the click. Then the warning alarms… and there goes another ship.
Used to be a PVE/Mining in Eve Echoes back then. Tried the PC version and discovered how thrilling Exploration and hacking data sites are.
At first I did PvE but it was super slow and I only like to play frigates so it was even harder but when the corp I joined recommended exploration, I did it and in a single day, I managed to buy an Astero, Worm, and Succubus
I started 12 days ago
Excellent! This makes me so happy to read!!
This channel and rookie chat helped me learn the game(basics) in 3 months, I love it. Have been a Omega for a week now, even more fun. Going to get a microphone and try to join CatSkull Corp next.
Awesome! I'm proud to be able to help!!
Of late I have been finding my fun living out of a "van". Just a cheap T1 hauler, a cheap T1 frigate, and a willingness to find a system on the map and say, "I want to go there". Meet the locals, learn to make your ships do multiple things, avoid pirates, it's great. Do I make isk off of it? Not really. Making money isn't the point! It's just making my own fun.
Excellent! That sounds awesome!!
Outstanding vid on the introduction to finding your way. Second this - Joining a good corporation helps in so many ways. Yes some corps are better than others, don't be afraid to move around.
Agreed!!
Again great vid Captain. Fully agree, It is quite important to find your way in Eve to have fun. Doesn’t matter what, where and how. Thanks for the overview!
Absolutely and thank you!!
That was a really great overview of the main things to do. A few snippets of other things, like ESS robbing, station trading, incursions etc. would have been a nice addition.
Very good point and I will cover those later!
Played Eve today, I actually fitted my free Imparior, gave it Sansha crystals, Gatling pulse lasers, armor rep, scram, and a web drone. Slapped a Punisher around like a ragdoll, ticked off a Coercer went toe to toe, stable cap. I call it the Blood Priest. Very enjoyable.
Lmao, that's AWESOME!!!
Impairor? Really?
@@jozefkovac6858 Ya, be surprised how easy it is to fool people into attacking it. I was stealing wrecks so I had a target on my back, but survived both fights. Didn't kill, however the Coercer was a close kill if I was able to keep my rep high enough, didn't learn the skill to overheat at that point so it was tough but fun.
"learn while you burn!" - Cit.
This! 😂
Tons of ways to play: I used to make money with the Signal Cartel by creating routes to visit lore and player sites of interest.
Signal Cartel are a great bunch of folks, and glad you found what works for you!!
Great vid! Appreciate your holistic view of the game.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Last week I went to a customs office to have my resources and all of a sudden, 3 ships declocked (2 paladin and one smaller) .. I was in a 3 mil transporter :)) it was funny
Lmao 🤣
Such a great introduction to the game - well done!
Thank you!
this is some of the best advice i seen as a 31m sp pilot
Glad you enjoyed!!
My go-to resource for all things Mining and Industry
🥰
Great video! I like your approach to the content EVE has to offer, it's the same advice I give to people in Star Citizen: best way to make money? The loop you enjoy the most! Why? Because it's the thing you'll have the most fun in and so it's the path that you can attain the longest
Exactly this!! I hear so many people say things like "I was doing [thing that I really enjoy] then someone told me that [y thing] was better for ISK so I swapped to that. Now I'm burned out on EVE" 😢
@@captainbenzie its almost depressing when you look at how the average gamer heads into a game nowadays; they try to get the highest yield in whatever wealth the game has to offer (amount of currency/level/gear score/rank, whatever) without actually "getting" to enjoy the game. Maybe it's because I'm from a different generation of gamer, where "playing the game" was "the goal", well that and getting the credit roll.
But I stumbled upon your videos trying to get a better understanding of EVE Online and to hopefully find a loop that feels entertaining. I've tried it before years ago, but got lost in the vastness of its possibilities. Last year I got back into space games and player driven universes always appealed to me. Since I usually refer to EVE and how CCP built, maintains and expands upon this world, when I talk about impressive MMOs, I figured I'd get back into it and so far I'm enjoying myself quite a bit, even without quite understanding what I'm doing (yet)
@@captainbenzie that, plus that the average gamer almost requires instant gratification to "enjoy" a game (one of the reasons cheating is such a prevalent occurrence).
The new AIR system is great for getting (back) into New Eden, although a bunch of things are still rough to grasp for a newbie (or one of the kids distracted me during an ingame tutorial). But so far the pace is filling a much needed gap in my current list of games
Lots of good points discussed. Question: Is there a way to find / get a Gecko BPC that you know of instead of contracts?
Since the egg hunt won't occur again this year. It was the only place I knew that the BPC had a chance to drop.
I don't honestly know...
Holy moly, Captain Brnzie is still alive!
...I've been putting out videos every weekday for almost six years 😅
@@captainbenzie Every weekday? I think yt is short changing me. I need to start actually going to the channels I like instead of relying on notifications.
@@joshuacrumley2031 yup. Dinging the notification bell isn't enough. TH-cam makes recommendations based on what you click, and what other people are clicking.
@@captainbenzie you see, people need to subscribe, then ding the bell, then click it again and press on all instead of personalized, then go into TH-cam settings and change them to show all notifications. That's how difficult TH-cam had made it 😂
If you doing mining missions you won't hurt your standing while farming those LP points you get from Pew Pew missions. If you do the Pew Pew Missions you will lose standing with other races. Eventually they will start shooting at you for entering their space.
Correct
You might find that you like making your own ship with fittings by mining it all and go PvP losing it, rinse repeat.
I do that.
Exactly this! I did this with my first Rupture but haven't since and it's such a satisfying feeling
There was a referral link in the description somewhere?
I’d only take ISK for moving stuff if it was someone in corp who never did hauling, in w-space corps I’d just pay it forward so next time they bring that module or ammo back for you.
Fair, but also if it's your only income, I think corpies would be happy to support!
I would send the isk anyway, you always pay the hauler!
Running of a corp makes a girl sweat
😂
Don't forget vetting for spais. After the mess in Delve, check for spais.
Exactly
Small comment, I don't know how well it all works out for comparative profitability, but mining missions are about earning LP. You are mining store rewards, not ore.
I don't have a character with 2m sp so i cant join Catskull yet.
Have you used my referral link? That's 1m free
rule #1: only fly what you can afford to lose
then, just have fun
What's the world coming to when Captain benzodiazapene is addicted to huffing has?
100% jita market never undock, thats my jam
im invinsible immortal eternal to my enemy
i feel PVE and PVP
then pvper sell me pvp and pver stuff
then i sell back expensive to pvper and pve er
i always win.
since 2004 get a life
how old is eve? im 39 and play eve for more than half of my life
i started at 19.
if you bought a salvager t1, it was mine. (in highsec, back in the day, i spreaded them around every system, wasnt profitable in like 70% of them. and 303 order dont cover universe)
if you bought a cargohold t2, it was mine.
thx for the profit
Glad you're enjoying!!
@@XeLTH-cam you sound like you are 9 not 39 smh.
didnt get my skillpoints :(
Check your in-game rewards
did the tutorial. and now im sitting here like: ok and wheres the fun part? why would i play this?
EVE is a niche game, it's not for everyone. But the true fun of it comes from what you achieve with friends. There are dozens of playstyles that you don't experience in the tutorial. So try to get out there, do the career agents, try everything, have fun!
@captainbenzie i think i found what i liked most. Blowing things up. It looks georgius. And i think i found someone whod help me blow more up. O7 i think im gonna play this more often
@haku7335 excellent! Welcome to EVE, and I hope you find your fun! o7
🙃
o7
basicly do it yourself is the thing I got from this video... a long way of saying it though
ehh great concept
Thank you
Its called EvE which stands for Everyone vs Everyone. The most fun to be had is in the PVP. Any other activity in the game is simply done in support of replacing the ships that need to constantly be blown up.
Tasks VS "the actual game".
Learn about all the ships, one ship at a time, and learn how to kill them. Learn how to not be killed by them.
Everyone vs Everyone.
That may be true for YOU, but many others do not enjoy pvp, find it stressful etc. I loved mining and ran 12 toons. Others hated mining and preferred ratting, missioning etc. Thats ok. To claim that pvp is the most fun in eve is narrowminded and doesnt speak about what others may or may not enjoy. I would never be so presumptuous to claim such nonsense just as I never looked down on others that enjoyed other aspects as long as they werent griefing others and being classless.
@@MysticalDragon73 you have a good point. We all need the industry players!! Otherwise ship prices would go through the roof.
@@timnosretap7611 Early in my days of eve we were hostile with red alliance. There was a week long CTA. Our CEO told me to stay home and keep them supplied with ships. He saw more value in that vs going out to be tackle.
I singlehandedly did that. Mining 12-20 hours a day. If they lost a ship they came back to a new one. It was very rewarding to do so.
When I first started Eve, a vet told me that Eve is pvp...period. Everything else is sugar coating over this fact. Want to mine? You will be hunted and killed. Want to run missions? You will be hunted and killed. For beginners, this can be extremely frustrating. There is no safe activity for beginners. If you are a beginner, just know that you are part of the vet's content (the joy if killing a beginner). Join a corp as soon as you can. The bigger the better. Having said all that, Eve is the only game I've played that gets my heart pumping. That is my fun :)
Exactly this
Sadly thats one aspect that I dislike about eve as do many others. I should have places I can relax after work, when tired etc. I dont expect to get rich but I want to be able to play the game that I PAY for without being bothered by others. Thats an aspect that was nice with elite dangerous. We could run in solo or private modes which was nice. However it also felt empty too.
When I returned to the game in 2009 with several new player friends, we got grief war decced by a griefer in an interceptor. After 3 weeks of that I'd had enough and purchased my main. We caught the sob and killed him. He finally stopped and moved on. Sadly it caused several friends to leave the game and never return. Thankfully they have changed this mechanic to only being able to war dec those with structures.
However the depth and variety of the game is what often brings me back along with many others.
@@MysticalDragon73 I understand where you're coming from here but there are other games that fill that niche out there, that's not what EVE is meant to be. No game can be for everyone, nor should a game ever try to be. EVE is what EVE is, and it's up to players to decide if that's what they want or not.
I wouldn't go into World of Warcraft and demand they add spaceships, nor would I go into Madden and demand a rugby mode.
That ability to run solo/private is exactly WHY Elite Dangerous is so empty. You can't have a flourishing world where folks constantly interact, and also offer them a completely safe stay at home experience. EVE Echoes made this mistake too. EVE Online understands and focuses needlepoint onto what it is.
@@MysticalDragon73 I feel ya. My corp built a high sec structure at one point, and we got war decced within a few days. And yes, all but two of us remained in the game because of it. Eve is bitter sweet for sure. I met one of my Eve besties while we were trying to kill each other. You never know what can happen out there, and that is a part of Eve's appeal. When I want alone time to practice etc, I just jump onto the other server, ships are cheap etc.
@@Perfectflight-i3f the other server? What one is that? I miss having the test server to practice on
Its fun until you get gatecamped a bunch...
Then you learn how to avoid and handle gatecamps
I agree, it actually IS fun. That's the reason I moved to low recently. I kept getting bored and quitting.
Nothing wrong with a good gate camp...hate them personally.. but there are 5399 other gates to go through
Gate camp busting is so much fun...and they are just sitting there in space with their fits on display for all to see...😈
Don't get gate camped a bunch!