No Uber or Lyft Driver should EVER accept a 70% them, 30% you SPLIT. ABSOLUTELY NO !!!
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The problem is that we have too many drivers that accept these low fares.
Exactly drivers need to be way more picky about what rides they choose. If this happens Uber will be forced to pay better fares. There's no reason they should have such a big cut of the overall fare in the first place. Uber shouldn't get more than 40% of the fare ever.
Sometimes they don’t know better. They get tricked. The only reason I see through Uber’s shenanigans is because I have been around since 2016. I have seen trips go from $33to $24, $22 to $14. Upfront pricing is one of the biggest scams going on in the US right now.
Orale bato. Me take 1 hora trip for 5 pesos. Mucho moni 4 mi. Gud moni for mi.
Those dude from gana and Brazil take any fare
new driver yes but soun hi understand after hi go mecanicks etc ..
only reason this companies are getting away with this is because they have plenty of drivers driving for this garbage.
Need to pass legislation to cap the ride share app's cut of a contractor's labor to 30% to avoid worker exploitation. Unfortunately we live in an corporatocracy because lobbying from big corporations dictate legislation.
Yep, on both sides of the isle. It’s especially bad with California’s big tech. When you look at the extent Uber and Lyft are both shafting riders, and drivers (even harder), it’s difficult to imagine anyone more greedy. These corporations make the rules as they go...and grow evermore corrupt each day.
That 30% split also does NOT include the cost of gas in CA! Getting close to $7/gal.
Correct
It's already over $7 in LA.
@AskTorsten tonight drivers are shutting off their phone in S. California. I went home early because drivers said turn off the app. They tired professor. Some of drivers are new drivers and they taking all the small rides.
insane, in nj in my area gas is 3.55
And dont forget you have to pay taxes with that 30%
From 28% to 70% they got balls now
I work Uber as a side job. But honestly, I am wasting my time. Last Wednesday and Thursday, I sat at the airport 5 hours each day and I couldn't take any of their stupid offers. In salt lake city, it is sometimes 20, 80 percent split, which Uber takes the 80. On Friday, during the busy hours, I only accepted a short 7 miles ride which it was 20 bucks since there was 14 dollars on the screen. And my rider gave me 5 dollars in tips, eventhough, she said Uber charged her 45 dollars. I rejected over 35 rides because none of them was worth my time and gas, mileage, etc. I've seen how much they charge the riders sometimes up to 180 dollars for 35 miles, but hardly pays us 40 for that trip. If they run their business this way during the ski season, I will quit. Unfortunately there are drivers out there that have no talents to do simple math, and Uber abuse them as much as they can handle it. When you tell them, that they are actually losing money by accepting these nonsense rides, they say, you are jealous!!. Well when their cars breaks down, and there is no money to fix it, they might realize that they are stupid and Uber uses them as it's puppets.
This is so bad
Agreed 💯. Mostly of them are immigrants, that compare the money they make in Uber/Lyft, with they use to make in their countries, of course much more. Like you said they will be driving until their cars fall apart, and then realize it not worth it. BUT others immigrants will continue arriving and de cycle start again, for that reason this country needs more fresh immigrants to continue slavery.
Well Uber was possiblity a side hustle not a full time job this was extra income when you waiting for your first paycheck or regular paycheck
Same here brother in Buffalo NY. I'm on my way out... IRS miles pay more then Uber fares. Sickening
I used to be huge in the uber x and XL business but now I prefer to use the uber eats. I still try to get a decent uber xl but honestly I've had better luck on the uber eats. I also just do it part time now because it's not worth full time.
Today in Texas my app was going crazy! I’ve been taking only small trips for over a month now! Nothing less than at least $1.00 per mile for pick up and drop off!💯🔥❤️
I'm wondering why doesn't the Government stop them from abusing drivers? I guess, they don't care, as long as drivers keep their silence.
Because they are the ones benefiting from it
They bribe huge money to the government to keep shut their mouth.
The only time gov will intervene is when it costs them more not to.
Thanks Torsten, you're always fighting for us, exposing their abuse of us drivers‼️
I signed up for Lyft & the Hertz rental program in late June 2023. A month in I was rear ended & was NOT at fault. Lyft still marked me for the accident and sent a warning email. On Aug 12th 2023 at around 9:30pm I was giving a ride in Koreatown & we ended up stuck in traffic because a crazy guy with a gun was shooting in the street. I safely got us out of there as scary as it was. 2 days later i wake up to "Your Account Was Deactivated For Safety Concerns". On top of that Hertz forgot to mark the car returned when I returned it. I had to call them to ask why my car was still in the system and the guy on the phone said "Oh I forgot, Ill fix it". I still got charged for the extra week I wasn't even driving. Lyft refused to give me my deposit back even after I explained everything. I really just want my deposit back & the extra $69 I had to pay on top of that.
This should be illegal!!!
This is why I encourage people to stop driving for these scam apps completely
This is ridiculous the gas price are rising to $7 a gallon and Uber took 70percent and 30 percent for driver this BS
Impressive that they still exist and that there are drivers willing to drive at these rates. Tax time is going to crush these drivers.
Already has
It's the same as the trucking industry...foreigners come here and will work for nothing because it's more than they could make in their country. They work 20 hrs a day 7 days a week ...
Not really. I’m running at a loss on mileage deduction and tax man won’t want people loosing money while uber pocket money and I pay less tax on my w2 income because of this. Tax man need to come down hard on uber and demand minimum 12$ per hour after expenses for drivers. Uber is apparently also running at a loss. I’m in Tampa and haven’t seen more than 65c per mile in years.
The impresive part is the abundance of drivers
@@soliniv1411 lets be honest, the rideshare companies only survive because they take advantage of people's ignorance. There are still plenty of people who don't realize that there's more expenses than just gas to worry about.
I drive in St Louis Missouri, i rejected 200 rides Friday!
That’s totally outrageous ,,,,thank you rideshare proffesor you are the best🎉
They don’t respect the rights of drivers.
It needs government regulation to step in its extortion and these corporate are getting away with this.
The problem is new drivers,they are willing take whatever Uber give them front fare trip especially airport trips
Drivers need to go on strike around the world. On a Monday from 3am - Tues 3am an entire day. Monday is the best day because business professional and others are trying to head to airport to make deals across the country (world). There would definitely be changes made if 450k passengers bombard Uber/Lyft app because they're unable to get to their destinations But if we really wanted to hurt Uber/Lyft we'd strike on New Years Eve.
Oh I’m all for this!!!!
Do this every single Monday until things change...Then Dont drive at all on NYE and NYD....
I was a diamond maui driver for 3 years. Don't have any diamonds. Stopped driving before the fires, and thank God I did. I'll never drive for Uber again in my life. If Dara got directly ejected into the sun, I'd throw a party
I gave a ride to this lady yesterday, she was telling me she asks every driver if it's worth it to them, 90% of new and old drivers told her that its not worth it for them. Im from Los angeles, ill work afternoons and on weekends only, and i wont take anything less than $1 a mile and i make sure to stay where its most likely to be another ride after im done.
As long as there are drivers taking garbage all uber needs to do is survive long enough so that autonomous driving can work for them.
If they are too cheap to pay human drivers bringing their own cars without cost to Uber....self driving cars will be far more expensive. This level of exploitation is far cheaper than the costs & liabilities of self driving cars which would require far more infrastructure that would totally undermine Uber's business model of being not too much more than an online money grabbing app. with little investment beyond online tech and skeleton crew support when not outsourced.
I do Lyft only when they throw a bonus incentive here in Boston, and cherry pick most rides in order to get that bonus. Uber in Boston in my opinion is going great for me making about $350 a day. You just got to be smart about picking the best ride, for example I only do $1.00 per mile ride, less than that I don’t accept it.
A dollar a mile is not enough 😂😂😂 ten dollars for ten miles 🤣🤣🤣
$350 a day huh🤭🤭 really? Now how's yur milage n gas going? More like $240-220 a day✌️ oh and hows that lager sonny?
@@tazmantiz6938how much you make? Just curious
Professor you need to understand people don’t care how much the driver is getting they just want to get to their destination. It’s simple.
But I like the great job you been doing in this channel. 👍
Exactly.
They don't care! You see the rates in San Antonio. And these drivers here keep taking the rides.
It's like working for free
The last time I took garbage rides like this was November 2022 when they started doing this garbage specially with Lyft, it’s a shame because I used to love those big rides I would do 100 miles for over 100 bucks now they want to give me $50-$60 for 100 miles, hell no, double Hell, no, triple Hell, no, so I cherry pick the hell out of them, and look for other avenues to make money, I found spark, and I enjoy that, it’s not consistent, but so far it’s definitely worth it especially when lifting Uber want to give me garbage rides
Also, Lyft loves to threaten to suspend me because of the cherry picking I do for them, thankfully Uber hasn’t threaten to suspend me
I still do like driving in orange county, but most of my rides I get that are worth it that are long are from John Wayne airport
Uber is still ripping drivers off at 100 miles for only over 100 bucks mainly because there would usually be 100 miles wasted on the way back.
Lyft chicago to airport rider told lyft charges &79
I got $3 bonus + $16 total $19.
What a rip offffffffffffff
Leaving this industry no more profit
205 $ on Lyft from Boulder Colorado the Denver International Airport and driver makes 32$
This is why I call them Screwber and Shaft.
We need to design new logos for them
Spark is pulling same game. No cherries. No offers. Or like you said dumpster fire !! My vehicle has stopped. All the apps are doing it. Most have no driver assist #. How that is legal blows my mind.
I quit Uber … idk how them guys are making it
Uber should take 20-30 % …
The problem is group 1 drivers. There the ones that take these charity trips. These trips are rotten eggs. Then the customer wonders why the drivers are so sour towards them.
Lyft also does ever worse
Unfortunately there are too many Uber drivers in Las Vegas area taking the $4 rides.
They have to change their calculation, since it does not give any benefit to the driver, it is not worth riding people
My Uber driver's account has recently been Deactivated Because I refused to pick some one up with a dog. Even after explaining my allergy against dogs to Uber, they insisted that I can not refuse any rider with dogs.
Apparently they don't care about my health, well being, my safety my passenger's safety and everyone else's safety on the road.
Thank you for your comment. Do know what type of attorney would handle a case like this? I have talked to a few attorneys so far, Either this wasn't their field of practice Or no one was brave enough fight a giant Company like Uber. lol @@alkohalak8199
It’s gotten ridiculous!
NO MORE BLACKBOX!
Even if the split were reversed and the driver was getting 70% it wouldn’t be ethical.
It is not worth it guys wise up. Don't let these corporations take your youth and waste your life away. Drive for them if you want some quick cash but don't take it as a full time job.😢 Cos they are greedy. How can you deduct 70% and give your driver 30%😢
From tampa fl to orlando 92 miles for 40 dollar and its very hard to pick up during the back ,, that mean 184 miles for 40 dollars and come crazy drivers accept these bad rides
Excellent, you speak the truth. Thnk you
You said it right when you said its like dumpster diving.
Why doesn't the California government investigate these companies?
I think it’s class action from passengers as they did with doordash tip
All quotes given by corporate business
“Customer always right”
“Customer is king”
“Customer is god”
But we say “Customer is stupid”
Very true
Your absolutely 💯 right about this
Just did an airport ride in Denver. Guy showed me he paid $82 and Uber gave me $35🤬
This is so common....also less likely to tip so we're double screwed
Facts
I check the waybill to see how much the passenger is paying if I see the Uber is taking more the 50% I just cancel the trip. Let some of the person do it.
In my city Uber doesn't even show up front pricing. Here if you are above 85 percent acceptance they tell you how many minutes the trip takes. If you're under 85 percent they only tell you how many minutes away the pick up is. Think that tactic is a little shady
I haven’t driven in two weeks because of this bullshit
Me gusta la reunión espero muy pronto compartir un reunion en vivo ❤
Denver Colorado is setting up Co-op! Finally!
Thank you. You have to turn it down and wait for something acceptable
💯 brother. They are stealing drivers money
Wow this is so disgusting we need stronger union voices.
My acceptance rate is 1 percent now just because all these garbage Uber offers
One lady at the sav was waiting for 5 hrs waiting on a ride going to Brunswick ga/ the payout was $38-42 to the driver/ Brunswick is a 1 hr ride/ 3yrs ago that ride would be $65 / Uber wtf!!! Treat you drivers better!!!
Plus I took a ride to Oxnard and surprise, you can not see the ride informacion in that county! Omg this is so insane
When I started it was 70/30 the other way. I made 70%.
The problem is drivers are accepting those shit fares.
Hey 👋 my friend in Fayetteville nc uber and lyft killed the driver same trip here probably $9.46
I was in China back in 2019 and their rideshare app there took 5%. Uber is criminal.
The recent ride I saw n Uber was Skyharbour Phoenix to Flagstaff for $98. that's 150 miles- 300 round trip. that's a tank of gas and 5+ hours and to an airport pick up for less than 100! These guys are Mickey Mouse. I didn't see how much they made, but I am sure it was a pretty penny.
And they send you surveys asking you how happy you are driving for them. Are you kidding me? They know the answer already.
They are keeping 70% of the share, while we pay for the gas, car, their adds and their insurance now, plus our rideshare insurance. So we end paying to give rides.
Spot on no more cheery picking , now is getting worse with this new hours boosts
I used to drive Uber 4 years ago I could make a check and cover some expenses. Now what Uber has done should not even be legal in the United States. The fare is absolute joke. Not worth the time and damage to your vehicle. What’s the point of driving Uber if you can barely cover the cost of gas, then oil changes are like every two weeks if you drive about 30 hrs per week. Then repairs, new tires/other parts. Uber is on some cloud 9 shiiit. I feel like they are abusing all the people that are driving for them at this point. Uber CEO also like to play high stakes poker so I guess it all makes sense.
I am uber driver in san diego
Today I pick from air port to 32 miles and 32 dollars.
But rider said I paid to uber 95 dollars
Uber is xxx
The wording of your post says it all...
Im in the UK and some of the offers coming through are terrible i decline about 75% of trip offers.
People need to feed mouths, people need to pay rent, and car payments, that’s why people still drive for uber and Lyft, greatest flexibility to work when you want…want to make money work for it if not there are plenty of other jobs but probably way less flexibility, flexibility for less money, you be the judge…all this meaning you got to do what you got to do
I live in Irvine and working around. I have been doing Uber since 2015 as a side hustle and I am missing old good days. Right now I am not taking any ride without surge, boost or quest. otherwise it is waste of my time.
And $6.70 gasoline in sf, plus prop 22.
In Pa uber is getting ridiculous
Because we don't have that ability to see the $$ with Uber and where the destination is, This is normal in Wilmington NC. I check the waybills often to see how much I'm getting ripped off.
This is like driving around in the city blindfolded ,it's doesnt make any sense is it ?
I’ve had my Uber app on the whole time I watched the video and read all the comments - call it half an hour or so. I just now, 40 minutes later, got my first ride request. Luckily, I had zero plans of taking it.
You should make a video on how to maximize earnings with this lower fares. I like how you’re teaching us what Uber is doing and how they are fucking us, but it’ll be nice if you teach us or give us advice on trips that we should take.
I think some people’s mindset is like “30% of $50 is better than 100% of zero”. What else would they be doing for a part time job, work at a fast food restaurant? Ride sharing is still better than the fast food industry.
Actually fastfood if paying around 15 to 20 is better if consistent with full time hours and possibility for overtime. Thirty percent of 50 is 15 dollars which will likely be an hour plus long ride going out of the highly busy areas then having to drive back on your own expense empty for another hour for uncertain business which will be the typical 5 to 10 dollar ride taking 20 to 30 minutes to complete from driving to pick up then destination....and of course one has to subtract the immediate expense of gas and ongoing accelerated depreciation leading to the need for more maintenance and repairs due to the intensive driving. When Rideshare first started a good argument could be made that the driver compensation was better in the immediate short term than fastfood but not at this point. The normal experience of driving for Uber is unprofitable for drivers which makes for all the nontransparency tricks of Uber to get drivers to do things they would not if the numbers were transparent in showing if the ride will be profitable. And the same thing with safety in hiding information that would indicate if the driver will be picking up and/or dropping off in a high risk situation. They can not even be transparent about if you are picking up a third party rider who may feel a certain kind of covering to engage in shady and violent activities with little to no fear of being found.
Same here in LONDON UK
I DONT ACCEPT IT
I drive in Birmingham AL. Lyft is about dead here they got caught skimming (yikes). Uber is wildly popular it doesn't seem like there are enough drivers.
Wow this company's absolutely crazy 🤣
We also need to create a union
They have people who dont speak english taking those ridiculous (drive for free) rides.
I am still trying to figure out how they even got a license, car and on the platform.
That all sounds good but authorities are blind
Hello from ottawa Canada the amount drivers going to taxi is crazy no money to be made with Uber customers have to wait a long time to get picked so taxi industry benefits for that there so busy
I thought it was the other was around that they take 30%. This is crazy
GiG drivers have a legit reasons to strike............I see folks from other career fields striking but, they already getting paid very well and have benefits.
Yeah this what both Lyft and Uber doing. It’s horrible. It was a 80/20 split our way when I first started. 2015. The riders are paying more and we get less. Which is why tips are way down.
Why any idiots accept those kind of rides is beyond me. If the dollar to mile ratio doesn't add up or isn't remotely close REJECT
I'm surrounded by 6 other drivers. All I get is 6 dollar runs
The problem is too many idiots keep taking those rides as well! That's just insane the fact that someone takes these rides doesn't matter if EV or not that's just stupid AF!!!!
Lyft has been giving me a lot of promotions lately. I got 4 days with $90 worth of streak bonuses for every single day. Plus they gave me a quest paying $230 for 105 rides along with the $90 streak bonus days in the same week
They changed it. The streak is now included and the bonus too in the earnings guarantee
The only time I really took garbage ride was before 2020 when we didn’t have the front info because we didn’t know whether or not we were gonna get a garbage trip. But with seeing the details upfront, it makes it easier to reject the garbage trips, and to pick the better paying rides. I calculate the time and distance with the old rate card before excepting a trip, and as long as the fair is equivalent, or greater than the calculations, I’m good.
I'd love to be my own chauffer and definitely interested in your course. Just bought a 23 Toyota Corolla Hybrid and was wondering if that's a good vehicle to use?
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I’d like to know the acceptance rate of autonomous vehicles, you’d assume it be 100, are they forced to take all the garbage, and does this encourage uber to send more of these trash rides, granted I appreciate there are desperados and formica doing the same
They take at least 80% in Iowa
We should sue or make a new app
Lyft is worse
Uber was charging $108 from downtown Chicago to ohare airport! I use to drive for uber and lyft and know was up! I took a cab for $45 lol flat rate . The uber drivers there all line up were saying they would get $28 for that ride thats nuts
It wont change until Govt step in. each week 10k drivers smarten up and realize not to take this garbage, that same week 10k new drivers signed up and take it. New drivers see $$$ signs when they get a trip offer. Simply they dont do the math