2019 Daiwa Saltist Back Bay 4000......An upgraded Daiwa BG with Mag Seal and Better gearing.
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- This is the Daiwa Saltist Back Bay. bit.ly/SaltistBackBack-TMF-Combo
Who makes the smoothest spinning reel? Right now after using and testing pretty much every single $200 spinning reel on the market. The Daiwa Back Bay series stands out above the others.
It takes the Daiwa BG's rock solid platform. Adds a few light rubber seals at the handle and main shaft. And adds a ferrofluid'ic seal in the form of their Mag Seal at the anti reverse clutch. That does a great job of protecting both the clutch and the sensitive pinion bearing. (If you have a spinner that sounds raspy under no load. Generally it's that pinion bearing that is the cause.
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I own a 3000 in this reel and it is truly an amazing piece!!!! As smooth as my certate for half the price!!!! I picked it up after your review and am really glad I did !!!! Thanks for the great content!!!!FishinNiagara Grimsby ontario canada.
Thanks for this video. I purchased one of these two weeks ago and very happy with it. I was wanting the Stradic FL but can't find any in my area.. But after watching your tear downs on this reel, I went with this. I've crushed three big Redfish on it already and handled it like a champion. Buttery smooth. I kayak the inshores of Florida and I wanted something that could handle the saltwater abuse. Your videos helped me with the decision. Very happy with the purchase. Thank you!
Brought one of these 4 weeks ago,had it shipped from Spain into the U.K and love it!!really enjoyed your video too:)
Hands down the best reel reviews anywhere! Thank you sir for putting these together. Excellent job
Picked up a pair of these in the spring to be primarily used for false albacore/bonito fishing. Let me tell you the have balls and worked to perfection
Now we all wait for the teardown of Daiwa BG Magsealed by our one and only, Mr.Teardown
Such a great reel. I picked up mine in December and I’ve already caught a ton of fish on it. They NEED to make it in more sizes!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Love the buttery smooth comments Keep up the great videos
Thks for sharing, its a lot of work to take them apart and explaining the parts and whats good and bad...appreciate your work..I have field tested close to 100 reels in Hawaii..of all the manufacturers that the reels I have field tested(ss1300, ss1600, ss2400, bg 3k, 3.5k, 4k, fuego, ballistic, saltist(after 9 hrs they replaced the pinion and main gear), 6k mq, DAIWA is the only manufacturer that will repair the reel during warranty, they will not replace the reel. Worst was the 4k..sent it 5x before they replaced it..went thru 10 bearings, pinion and main gear...On the 5th repair I asked for a new one, they did, brand new box, brand new reel but my same spool.???.
I have the saltist back bay 3000 paired up with a 7ft med/heavy- fast bull bay assult, such a work horse! Along side with my bg mq 3000 paired up with a st croix triumph med/heavy- fast. both caught non stop 33in Snooks and over slot! Without breaking a sweat!
it seems like this reel is exactly the same as the Saltist Nero, the only difference (and it's a big one) is the aluminium machined main gear in this one compared to a zink casted in the nero. same body, same rotor, same spool and same number of bearing including the mag sealed main bearing.
thank you for the excellent overview!
After watching your videos on the Back Bay, I decided to give one a shot. It’s definitely one of the smoothest spinning reels, even at twice the money, in my opinion. It also has decent power/torque for this size of reel. The size nomenclature reminds me of women’s clothes, it’s a mental thing. The 4K is about the same as a Penn Conflict II 3k (which I also have). I really think the drag is undersized as well. On a 4K reel, many people are thinking big reds, snook, Jacks. They can peel some line! If you are near structure, or could hook something at the end of a long cast, I’d suggest another reel be used. If you’re tossing a lure 35-50 yards, mainly in open water, this is your baby. Just my opinion,
Scoob thanks for another awesome video. Us reel nerds never get enough. (Bad when you get to the point of enjoying tearing one down almost as much as using it)Great to see another quality affordable reel on the market. With the BG, Spinfisher vi, and this reel coming out in the last couple of years, do you think Shimano is paying attention? I know they have the Spheros SW, but nothing smaller than the 5000. Looks to me like they are missing the boat. BTW, any reel with the hex handle automatically disqualifies itself as a quality reel in my book. I do own a few, but to me it’s like putting a sign out that says “cheapskate” reel. JMO.
Keep the videos coming!
I purchased one from J&H based on your recommendations, and no joke, damn smooth. I love shimano stradic Ci4, but @250-270 a pop and not sealed for salt water, I'd rather have this Daiwa for my salt water applications all day. Thank you Tackle Advisor.
I agree, I love my Shimano (Stella 18K/Taliaca 25/12) as welI.
My 5k/4k BGs are a great value though!
Amazing looking reel I want a 3000
Another great video and tear down! 👍🏼
Well done 👍. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
This is the smoothest reel! Seriously daiwa please make it in all sizes! It's literally my favorite reel, I just want a smaller one tbh
Am already dreaming a 2000 -2500 size! :)
@@noelsuministrado who do I gotta kiss to get a 2000
@@finnafishfl Well, one on me too! hahaha...
@@noelsuministrado my current setup is actually a pfleuger president 25 with 8lb braid on a 9ft Daiwa Presso ultralight. I use it in saltwater and the pflueger does okay, I want to upgrade to a real saltwater ultralight which is tough to find. I'm considering the ballistic LT, wished the back bay came a size or two smaller. What about you what's your setup?
@@finnafishfl Thanks for the reply, sorry, I sorta deleted my question a while ago. Hmn, quite interesting set up you have. :)
I mostly fish freshwater here in Canada-- , walleyes, freshwater drums, cats, northern pike, carp -- hence a different set-up. For really light applications, nearly UL, a Fenwick HMG 4-8 line test rod, paired with a Shimano Vanquish 2000 HGS, 5 lb test PowerPro. The other two set-ups are quite identical both of them are 7"6 of L/ML power, XtraFast actions -- a G Loomis E6X Walleye Universal with a Daiwa BG 2000, and a St Croix Legend Tournament with a Daiwa Fuego LT 2500 XH. Both of them are spooled with 10 lb braids.
I dream of going really UL , that Daiwa Presso 9 footer which you have, which can be used for serious UL applications. Is it a good rod, I should ask -- then maybe, someday! :)
Thanks again!
Tanks man your videos are awesome!
I'm really curious about how effective that sealing is. What about a dunk test like you did on the new Spinfisher?
9:14 That's the screw for the anti reverse switch. You don't need to remove it to open up the reel.
Howdy sir, great video. Greetings from Galveston TX. I'm in the market the for another 2500. Is the 3000 comparable (size) to the 2500 BG ? I was going to get the 2500 Saltist till I came across this. The back bay is currently cheaper on Amazon than the standard Saltist2500.
Another great video!! I have the Daiwa Saltist 4000, not the back bay edition. I was trying to find out how to disable the automatic bail trip and make the bail manual only. Any thoughts or recommendations? Thanks again for the great content.
Have you ever used any of the Fin Nor Lethal Spinning Reels? They're inexpensive have large line capacity and very durable. A lot of guides use them around here.
I just discovered this awesome Chanel. Awesome dude. Great info im having trouble with a couple of Reels my main brand is Penn .My Fierce reels are in way good condition but the issue is the bail springs also i have 2 Battle 2 4000 and also showing fatigue on the bail springs. Could you suggest me something bout it?
I would love to see a Shimano Curado DC review. Thanks for the videos. So much information!
I've had one since the fall. Waiting to test some casting.. Nice reel....not really worth the hype other than you get a dc whine in a us market reel or 250$. It's still a curado though so it's definitely a very good and capable reel.
Any chance of getting your hands on the blast series of reels there's no reviews out there.
Have you seen the new Procyon LT? Seems like a lot of features from the ballistic without magseal. Was wondering how much general sealing it has.
Yeah, would love to have this in a 6000 size for 300m of Daiwa J Braid 15# (which breaks ~30#).
Great info as usual, thank you. Any idea why these reels in the 3000 are so scarce?
i have the nero 5000 and man its amazing!
Any news from Daiwa if they may start making a larger Back Bay? 5000, 6000 or beyond would be great. Great video!!
They’ll charge way to much $$$ if they do offer this reel in larger sizes! Daiwa are greedy crooks $$$!!! : ( 😡
I need some help with my back bay. Just got it and took a peak inside to see the digigear, and when I got done putting it back together, i found a small washer that must have been stuck to a screw. It wasn't the 3 longer screws for the body, but had to have come from either the screw shown at 9:12 or the screw that goes on the bottom plate. The washer is just a tad bigger than either screw. Maybe it don't go on either of those, but that was all I took apart. Those 5 screws and opened up the cover and then put it back together. Looking at the schematic that came with it, doesn't show a washer, but it had to come from one of them.
Great video. Thanks for making this. Very helpful. Would you recommend the Daiwa BG as well? Or do you like the Saltist way better? Is it worth the extra $
It's a much better reel in comparison but the sizes are limited. If the size fits and price is not an issue. I think you'll enjoy this one much more than the BG which is already a very good reel.
@@TackleAdvisors Thanks for the response. I actually messaged you on Instagram. I wanted to get your opinion on my next reel. Keep up the great work man!
Thanks man! I suck at instagram.lol It'll show a comment or a message was sent....and I can never find them.....I saw yours come through but couldn't find it.....lol I just last week found out how to post multiple pics at once.... I always post thorugh my picture gallery app on my note 9 so I never see the interface lol. Whats the vid link to that smallie you got. I couldn't find it.
@@TackleAdvisors All good man! I will resend the message on Instagram. Here is the link to the Smallie vid: th-cam.com/video/dHp2o3bOwSM/w-d-xo.html
Is the Fin Nor Lethal a soild reel? Never seen you do anything on Fin Nor. @tackleadvisors
Which one is more sealed... back bay or spinfisher vi? I'm kayak fishing and need the most protection from salt, but need a nice reel @tackleadvisors
Hey brother are you still making videos? I was so hoping to see what your thoughts were on the new gear after icast ?
A crazy question
Since the reel body is very similar to the big will the gear set fit in to a by?
How much 20lb braid would it hold? Looking for a jetty/surf reel that I can cast light lures a mile with
still torn between the Tsunami Saltx 4000 and the IRT 200 HELP ? or do you have alternative sealed surf reel that's not going to break the bank ?
I need a breakdown of the Florida Fishing Products Osprey reels to compare against.
I was wondering the same thing. I have seen some folks complain about build quality or consistency with the Osprey. I'm new to fishing and struggling to pick a reel. Haha.
This video is from 2019, near 2 years but the reel is still one you see all the time.
I just wanted to say that I have my front acreage marked off at 20, 30, 40, 50 and 100 yards. People tend to overestimate their ability to be able to cast long distances. 50 plus a few seems to be about the average. No one that has used my markers ever has hit the 100 yard marker. My point is the 180 or 200 yards of J-Brade is just fine unless you hook up Moby Runner.
Just an observation I thought I would mention. The reason for the markers was for my archery practice. The 100 yards was just for a goof!
It depends on the caster and the payload. I can cast 200 yards. In fact the shimano tiralejo rods. When I was testing the prototype and helping with the guide spacing. I lobbed a 3oz tady 140 yards (measured) and that was an effortless lob. I wanted to see if i could hit 175+ and proceeded to blow the first three guides off the rod.. (it was 95 degrees and the tape adhesive melted lol)
Can you tell us real life specs for braid capacity eg 15 pound ja braid grand which is 0.19mm and 20 pound which is .23mm. Then again braid diameters are also very misleading they state a certain diameter and when measured it is much thicker! Thank you once again for the best reviews on youtube.
Would u take the saltist back bay over the stradic? U mention eliasvfishing in a few vids and I see him using the stradic a lot
Thanks again for pointing out the Penn Slammer Amazon sales sham. I'm driving a Porsche with Honda money
What do you mean by this? I bought one and 6 months later it’s trash
Do you think Daiwa it's going to reduce the size of their spinning reels from now? To be more like the Shimano size? Or just for the LT series? By the way nice touch letting us to see how to put the reel back together. I haven't try a MagSealed reel because it's out of my low Budget, I am so happy with my 4000 BG! Greetings from Costa Rica Pura vida!
506 Fishing they’ll probably make both!
Good question. Daiwa has always been different back in the 90s my first go with fw daiwa spinners were the emblem z and TDz TDs and the 2500 sizes were about this same weight with big capacities. And that's changed here and there over the years. But yeah...no clue buddy. In the past vids with mag sealed reels I've generally left in the mag seal reassembly. Might as well...Usually I tell myself i'll leave it out because Ive done it enough...but then I think...what if it's someone's first times seeing one of my vids so I just keep the camera on :) Tight lines brotha!!
Im looking at getting my first spinning reel setup. I fish clearwater up in michigan. I had my eyes on either the Shimano ci4+ or the tatula but noticed the saltist and seen how smooth you and others have described it to be. Im still learning but even if I dont fish saltwater, is this still a good option? What do you recommend?
The first two reels you mentioned are significantly lighter. If you want a feather light setup the composite framed reels you mentioned are the best bet for the price. The back bays get a bump in refined feel due to the weight of aluminum dampening some of internals. For general duty freshwater spinning. I prefer light weight. And would lean towards the first 2 you mentioned. With the new stradic FL being where I'd look in the 7 ounce range over the back bay
I’m looking for something in the 1500 to 2500 size reels for some freshwater apps. Is that close?
I’d also like to ask if there is some kind of blackout on Zebco Quantum products. It’s difficult to get information on the smoke series regular v inshore And the boca series.
I knew people that landed giant stripers and massive Drum with Boca series reels. The pizza shop (it’s gone now) on rt 27 over in somerset Lorenzo’s, he was cool, the wall in the pizzeria had pictures of him with massive stripers.
And my stainless steel screws seem to be do able. Try #6 x 1/2 or 3/4 panhead screws for neko weights. Pretty cool and cheap and won’t rust out the tackle bag.
The Quantum is hard to come by.
TPHVICTIMS shimano stradic FK 2500? I love mine. Had it since august 2017.
Quick question can the knob be switched to a power knob without cutting or Drilling
Does he ever review rods? Guess there isn't much to take apart... wondering about all around rods in the $100 range
Can you show how to put the anti reverse clutch back in a quantum pt s3 4000 spinning reel. When I took it apart to clean it it fell out and reels forwards and backwards with resistance. Thanks for what you do.
Just purchased the ODM 7"6 Back bay edition Light tackle rod. Should I get the 3000 or 4000 Daiwa Back bay reel?
how does the jdm Saltiga Nero stack up to the bg, and regular saltiga?
Starting to consider Diawa...always been Shimano buyer, but Diawa has upped their game...
I like the ballistic over the ci4+ stradic. And tatula over the standard stradic due to the crazy weight savings. I dig the bg over the nasci. And this reel competes directly with the stradic fk. Both are great. BOth proven. But man this reel just feels soooo good. Even the Sustain didn't really impress me. Which i was really looking forward to. I've always been a huge shimano and daiwa fan. Mainly daiwa baitcasters and shimano spinners. But recently.....oof....daiwa has been putting out some damn fine egg beaters. I was told a new Stradic is dropping soon. So time will tell on that one.
Tackle Advisors do you know when the new stradic comes out??
Tackle Advisors my Stradic FK is better than my Stradic ci4+ is all I know. A reel that is as good as the FK? I might have to give this one a try next time I buy a spinning reel:)!
Carolina Crown2014 daiwa, penn, shimano and okuma make the best spinning reels. For me shimano and okuma are the best spinning reel brands. I’ve reeled a Daiwa in a store though and it felt equal to the shimano!
Carolina Crown2014 I mean, from what I’ve seen they’ve been pretty much the same. My friend uses both daiwa and shimano reels and he says they’re not very different. Personally I like shimano more, but my friend is trustworthy. He maintain both reels the same amount. From my perspective they’re very similar qualitywise!
How does it compare to the ballistic lt? Do the two series have the same sizing? I’d be using it for inshore stuff on Long Island. Saw the other comment that asked about the comparison but you mainly answered about the stem flex. Thanks!
The weights are drastically different due to the carbon composite frames. Other than that they're essentially the same just different looks and bushings at the spool support vs bearings . Though the 3k back bay is a shallower spool capacity
Hi sir, which one is more better ? Daiwa BG or daiwa Back bay?
Hello from Europe, is it the same reel called Saltist Black here in the Eu?? Or two different ones???
So for jigging for blues and Spanish would you take this reel over the black and blue saltist?
Hey what bearings should I buy for a carado 200 they got wet. Left them out in rain. My tournament pro did as well. And about 3 spinning reels. What is best bearings
It's crazy, when I watch your videos I can smell the machine oil/grease.
How does the Back Bay 4000 compare to the BG MQ 4000? I see the BG MQ has more drag and line capacity but is it as good of a reel?
So are the knobs or handles interchangeable with the BG? Mine just came in yesterday and I’m in love with everything BUT the larger T handle. Seems like it shouldn’t be much trouble to swap a smaller paddle knob over but can’t seem to find anything conclusive.
I was wondering the same thing. Have you made any upgrades like a power knob or smaller knob?
Did you ever hear obout daiwa bg magsealed, is this the same thing? , last i hear doesn't sell in US,i have it for allmost 4 years, amaizing reel, using it for saltwater shore jigging, runs smooth like first day, is that a same thing like this ans saltist?
Purchased a new stick recently. Plan to use it all over. Back, front, rocks, beach, pier. I usually default to stradic FKs. I like what I'm seeing (and hearing) with the saltist back bay. Can you give me your opinion? Saltist back bay 4000 or stradic fk 4000. I've got a 9'6 black hole Suzuki...3/4 - 3. I'll be throwing primarily soft plastics and small swimmers (sp, yo-zuri, green points...etc). Would just like to hear which way you would go. Or if you have a "perfect" pairing in mind, I'm all eyes. Thanks!
I thow those exact baits with a black hole cape cod nano and a 9'6 tiralejo and orded guides for the 9 '2 black hole cape code striper nano (lighter version of the 9'6). If it were me. I'd go ballistic lt.. I like the 6k enough to have 2. I use it on rods down to 7 feet (custom glass lami) up to an 11 tournament ballistic surf). Great capacity and larger spool diameter and bigger gears have proven to be a winner
looks like we may have a winner. The ballistics are in my price range and I'm liking the weight...or lack of. Thanks for the feedback nick...Much appreciated!
You're welcome.. I think you're gonna dig the lack of weight. And capability being a bit larger.
What are your thoughts on the daiwa bg magsealed please ??
Which one is the best reel this saltiest black bay or the certate LT 2019
When would you choose the Saltist Back Bay over the larger sized Ballistic LT 's? I have the Tatula LTs on my freshwater rigs and the lightweight design is a great feature. The Ballistic LT is very intriguing for the same reason. Thanks!!
Gear ratio... Heavier for the size may balance better... And to some that's important..... Cf drag... Slightly more sturdy compared to smaller sized tat /ballistic..... Handle preferences.... Just things to consider
@@TackleAdvisors Hey thanks for your response, much appreciated.
I need this in a 6000 immediately
Although I fish with almost all Penn reels, Clash and Slammer III inshore, the BG is a great all around reel. I have a black and blue saltist 8000 and I really like it. Very smooth. I might have to pick one up to feed my fishing gear addiction. Nice review...
Hi, can the 4000 spool fit on the 3000 reel?
How would you compare this reel to the MQ 4K and what would you reccomend
Hey I love your videos and I got a diawa bg2500, so I took it apart cleaned it and regreased it, and it starting making that weird noise during isolation and under load it felt unsmooth. Just 2 days ago I took it apart to fix it and I sprayed wd40 on the spool shaft and I think it kinda went away. What are your thoughts I'm just asking because i saw you have the same problem in the video and fixed it easily.
One thing to keep in mind. WD40 is a solvent used best for de greasing. SO don't expect it to be a long term fix if it indeed was the "fix" Make sure you don't have the rotor nut too tight as it may cause binding. It shouldn't but ya never now. Make sure all the shims are where they need to be as well. It's sorta tough to diagnose without having the reel in front of me. Especially some daiwa reels that use the clip to hold the main gear in place.
@@TackleAdvisors yeah maybe the spool shaft had to much grease and that's why it didn't feel smooth, I remember seeing it and it was full of grease, and maybe the wd40 got rid of all the extra grease. I was also messing around with the reel and when you shake it makes like a clunk sound I was thinking of putting extra shims on the main gear where it makes contact with side plate and gets connected to handle. Have you ever had to do this to a reel and do you recommend it? Edit or maybe when I took it apart to put wd40 and but I back together I didn't overthighten the screws hahah
@@TackleAdvisors I have the same problem, I was encouraged by your videos to maintenance my BG . Now I'm scared to open any of my other reels. My BG has not been the same, feels like the gears don't have any oil or grease like if it's spinning dry. What would be a great video idea is to show us any troubleshooting reels and how to fix it. I rather not learn by trial and error
So how many yards of 20lb super slick ya think would fit on it?
Grabbed the last one on Prime through the affiliate link. Not gonna lie, as an Exsence/Stradic guy I’m actually really pumped to try one of these new Daiwa beaters.
Edit: looks like Amazon picked up the slack and their back up!
Awesome! Thanks man! I think you'll like it. Lemme know what you think of it
Great vid Scooby, what is its true capacity with 20 or 30lb braid?
Not quite sure to be honest... Dm Josh at jandh on Instagram he's probably spooled a bunch
Currently in a decision between the Tatula, Saltist back bay, and BG. What are your thoughts between all 3 that see moderate to heavy usage in saltwater
For targeting bigger fish and lots of hard use and salt sand EXPOSURE. I don't recommend either. Shimano spheros or tsunami shield and spinfisher vi With deals on the slammer thrown in for good measure.
I am curious,what we’re you doing from about the 18min mark when you repeatedly took the rotor off,and were saying almost?
I believe it was aligning the metal magnetic plate. If it's out of alignment it will rub on the clutch sleeve and you need to bolt it down to check
Look at some reviews and quiet a few customers complained about this reel not being good for saltwater. Lots said it crapped out with in a few trips. Without even dunking the reel. What’s your take on this reel as far as fishing it.
Amazon reviews.
Does the sealing in the tatula compare at all to the stradic? I like that reel, this one, and the ballistic but the mag seals kind of scare me. I fish off a kayak mainly in saltwater so sealing is important but I don't want to be sending off reels to daiwa to fix a busted mag seal every couple months.
The Tatula doesn't offer any form of sealing. The stradic is sealed like the ballistic but ballistic is sealed with mag seal at the clutch where as the stradic uses a hydrophobic coating. Both great reels.
@@TackleAdvisors Thank you! Do you think $100 price difference between something like a stradic and a BG is justified? I feel like with the ballistic, you get more for your money in terms of lightness, gearing, sealing, etc, whereas the stradic might just be slightly lighter with slightly better gearing than a BG. I mainly base my fears of the magseal on Alan Hawk, do you think he's exaggerating about them a bit?
The problem with magseal is real. As nobody knows what type they use. So you can't source it and they don't sell it. For reels like the ballistics where it's only at the ar clutch. You can use the cheap stuff and replace it as it dries out 6 months give or take so it's no biggy. But the high end reels that use it in the bearings. That's a chore /pain in the ass. For the salt I think the best reels are the bg tsunami shield spinfisher back bay lt stradic ballistic lt and slammer spheros gosa (according to my usage)
@@TackleAdvisors good to know, thank you. Those reels are all on my short list, maybe the okuma Helios as well since it seems like it's fairly lightweight and has an aluminum main gear supposedly. Haven't seen any reviews of them though.
so i would assume then, that the 4000 back bay would be sufficient for west coast surf plugging, where you are only tossing about 50+ yards
No doubt...and you guys tend to throw slightly smaller plugs right? So you're not often hauling 3 oz plugs into a 20-gale wind? It's a stradic 4k size reel
Correct about 3/4-2 oz buck tails and light sp minnows
Woooh yeah, another winner -- hope to get it to my arsenal! :) Now, how do we get Daiwa to make it on all sizes?
How would you replace the knob with a power knob?
Is it the same as the normal saltist? thanks
Shimano Stradic FL 5000 or Daiwa Saltist 3000 for blue fish ?
That C on the box means a smaller sized deeper spool.
From what I remember, the "C" designation in 4000MD-C indicates a compact reel frame. The body should be similar in size to the 2500/3000 BG.
I think it's either large body compact rotor or the opposite. I know I've seen shimano do that. Using 4k body and 3k rotors and spool. Not something generally seen stateside so I didn't want to go down that road for confusions sake. Just wanted to stick to the side of the box capacity and stats. And compare toth estandard 4k
what about the MD? C mean compact, thats all i know
@@ryangoh7812 medium depth? For the spool?
Tackle Advisors
with these new range of LT series, they have too many alphabet and none of their website give any detail on what they meant
as i have checked ytd, D stand for deep but what about M ?
comparison of a normal 4000 without D and a spool with D will hold more line
Tackle Advisors
im definately getting one of those after watching ur first introduction of ur backbay
“smooth like a stella”
already placed an order awaiting for stock to arrive
lastly, great video as always !
one of the reason why im always on youtube
Hi. Just bought this model and was considering pairing it with the dark matter ob surf rod for surf perch and stripers. Any thoughts?
That's a perfect setup... Perfect sized reel... Spool it with some 15 or 20lb braid and have a blast
Is this or the stradic FL better and which is smoother
I just saw another version of this called Cygnus on AliExpress dressed in Red/gold color. It has magsealed bearings, air rotor, alum body....exactly like this US version.
Hmmm link? Tried searching.. Nada
@@TackleAdvisors search for daiwa Cygnus 2506 here's one in Russian th-cam.com/video/hWu9qo87TQs/w-d-xo.html
Official Daiwa in Chile th-cam.com/video/qzkKx9danF8/w-d-xo.html
What reel do you like in 4K size for inshore fishing ? I destroyed ballistic 3k in week jigging blackfish . It couldn’t take the abuse of tog ... I’m thinking of getting Twin power 4K
What went out on it.... I don't stump pull with little spinners so I don't think I can be of any help other than get one with stainless gearing. Evict... Vr50 or go conventional with a spool lock... Snag pulling while spool palming will destroy any reel.. Make sure that's not what did you in before you throw money at the problem... Know what I mean?
Would a back bay main gear fit a BG?
Hi there, are Daiwa spinning reel main gears interchangeable across the range? i.e, can I replace the zinc gear in my bg 5000 with a Saltist 5000 main gear?
I believe those 2 will interchange (must be a matched set...) never tried though so could be wrong
How is this gear different than the BG or Eliminator or any other BG variant? I have the eliminator and it already feels perfectly smooth to me, but this one looks nicer in all black. But it looks like a carbon copy of the $70 Eliminator with the magseal abd gray plastics painted black..
Forged machined aluminum vs cast zinc main gears of the other bg siblings
Interesting. So all the other Saltist reels have zinc gears but this one was upgraded? I would use a different name in this case to separate it, why call it saltist.
@@ifishcatfish yup...and that's part of my gripe if you saw the end......all these silly names for such similar reels...and the "back bay, old bay, whattya say, nay say reel only available in small sizes with shallow spools get the best guts......da fuq iz that about
Beat this reel up for four months straight (redfish and stripers) and she’s not smooth anymore. Wonder what it could be? Also - send me your address for reel repairs.
What is the difference between this and the saltist?
Tatula or this? I'm mostly freshwater
Line roller bearing sucks. Used one time and already went bad. Wanted to get the 4000 but after this I might just go with Stradic FL.
I’m looking to get a reel for chinook salmon fishing up in upstate New York should I go with this the penn clash 4000 or the shimano stradic 5000
My first king spinner was a stradic 5000 20 years ago. So by default I'd say go that route and possibly buy carbontex drag washers for another 10 bucks
Did he say if the main gear was zinc or aluminum?
The Black and Blue Saltist is about 199.99 now, same price as this Back Bay. Is there any major difference between them? They're both magsealed, both with cnc main gears correct? Are the bearing the same? Shielded or actually sealed bearings?
blue has a cast zinc main gear....but brings slightly more corrosion resistant bearings.....and i believe a mag sealed line roller bearing.....if mem serves correctly. Capacities are different as well if not mistaken
@@TackleAdvisors yeah shallower spool on the Back Bay as it is an LT in the 3000 size, which honestly might suit me better. I forgot the Blue Saltist has a zinc gear...bleh. the extra sealing on it would probably be marginal over the Back Bay in real world applications too. I think the Back Bay is probably the winner between the 2
Is that the saltist back bay md ??i mean 4000 md LT ??