I am a serious Sarah Longwell fan girl & watch her every time I see her in anything. This was so fascinating because it gave me such a different perspective of her. Thanks so much for such great questions! I subscribed & will be back for more episodes.
If you watch the Bulwark and like Sarah Longwell this is best video ever if you have ever been curious about her how and why. Such an interesting person!
Sarah Longwell is an absolute National Treasure on par with the likes of Judy Woodruff ❤ We should all take a lesson (or several) from her courage, leadership, outlook, and tenacity! 👏🏻
Good afternoon from the beautiful SF Bay Area. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Sarah. First started seeing her on the PBS Newshour years ago and now I get to see her almost every day. I love the Bulwark and its wonderful cast of characters. Oh yes, and by the way, I am a lifelong natural born Leftie who came out of an Evangelical Republican clan. These ex-Republicans have taught me a lot these last several years, I hear better and understand better. Thanks!
Sarah is always so much fun to listen to. She speaks fact, experience and paradox, all wrapped up in honesty, I'm a big fan, even after I called her a coward over her comments on the Biden debate. Sarah is the first person to understand someone else's position, even if she doesn't agree with it. The world needs more like her.
My husband is pro-Trump. He thinks I’m crazy for supporting Harris. When I ask him anything about current events, he knows nothing. The funny thing is that when we met 45 years ago, I knew very little about current events or politics and he had been a political science major for a couple years.
Is he a Republican or a Trumpy? Probably thinks Trump is a really good business man, eh? You might talk to him about the fact that he ran a casino into the ground -- and casinos pretty much print money. Also, had he taken his daddy's $400 million and just invested it in an index fund, he would be a real billionaire many times over and far wealthier than he is now. So he basically pissed away his inheritance. Then ask him why he thinks Trump is a good business man.
I have seen multiple reports about hundreds of Republican women calling election offices in red states, asking if their husbands are 'able to see how I voted'. I believe that this group is greatly underrepresented in the polls. Women are hearing about the suffering and deaths happening in red states, and they are pssed too.
I will watch LITERALLY ANYTHING with Sarah. There is nothing better than watching someone who is truly, passionately, and expertly knowledgeable about something. It's like a spark. You can see it and feel it. I'll almost be sad when this election is over (not really, I'm in PA & being bombarded)
Thank you, thank you!! I've been a fan of Sarah for a couple of years. This opportunity to get to know more about her thoughts and evolution personally has been energizing. She bleeds energy, involvement and concern.........and she's so much fun!!...........Paul
What a great interview! It's reassuring that there is this much intelligence and competence at work to understand how people understand current politics.
I watched the Marc Elias interview and then all these other Sarah videos turned up in my feed and I’m so grateful! I watch The Bulwark every day and more Sarah is always welcome!
‘Keep your eye on the bigger tribe.” Brilliant. My husband and I are blue dots in a red neighborhood. We have a couple relatives who are diametrically opposed. They try to engage but we tell them that we won’t let politics destroy our relationships. Politicians will come and go. They will not come visit you in the hospital. They will not take care of your kids when you are sick or bring groceries when you are struggling. Hold on to your relationships at all cost. Don’t let politics rob you of your loved ones.
This is great. Sarah needs to keep making these kinds of appearances. She's going to be very helpful when this is over and it's time to heal. She's so optimistic despite having every reason not to be. 🙂👍
I am 75..gay and this little girl ( maybe 7 or 8) and she says to me I have 2 mommies. She is saying this to me in a church setting. It brought great light to all my dark memories. It was so refreshing. I shall never forget. Keep up the good work Sarah.
I'm sure I don't agree with Sarah on anything (I'm a super lefty lib) but she is amazing and I couldn't respect her more. I appreciate clear examples of people with whom I disagree on some points who are also clearly awesome.
The most significant thing that Sarah says is, and I’m paraphrasing it, “The Republican Party is not going back to your father’s Republican Party because the base doesn’t want it”. I think the MAGA Republican Party is and will continue to evolve. The biggest factor in its evolution is dependent upon how the next several election cycles turn out.
Sarah Longwell is the hottest woman in political punditry and isn't even close. Also, when Aria said she was about to cry, it was exactly what I was feeling watching this at home. This was an amazing interview!
Strangely, I wanna know Sarah’s enneagram. She thinks a lot like me in this interview. I love knowing how/why people tick. I am an information gatherer about humanity and people too. And even if people don’t agree with me, I can non-judgmentally be curious as to why they think that way. Humans are strange creatures.
@@jovialbivouacker99 oh I know, I used to have an emulator downloaded on my phone that automatically changed the name every time 🤣 I just hadn't heard it used in a long time lol so respect!!
Reid Hoffman! He and I didn't directly work together, but we were at a certain fruit company in a certain division that created an online service, at the same time. He was literally about 3 or 4 cubes away from where I sat. I remember him as quiet and focused. I interacted with his manager in some of my day-to-day project work. It was fun until the online services went bye bye. Anyway, I smile when I see Reid's name because of how small the world really is, and how fast time passes.
This AI deep data thing she wants to do will lead to AI consultants, which will cause the politician to be even more fake and untruthful. They will know what lies work best.
It's also taking the qualitative data that she loves and sort of analyzing it quantitatively (sort of?) in the form of a content analysis. I'm a quantitative researcher and this is very commonly how quantitative people end up analyzing qualitative data - purposefully or not. Lol.
Defn’tly for ‘wonks’ among us all- - Bless your not-so-little hearts- But, fascinating to hear these two converse on data processes that will effect our lives measurably- -
First time viewer suggestion: improved editing would be beneficial. Thanks for a great interview & for getting Sarah to nerd out completely! I love her passion! Appreciated the AI update.
Sarah, you don’t need machine learning, and it may never become reliable enough. In qualitative psychology research, people are trained to be reliable coders, who can also flag unusual answers. I worked as a coder on a study of assertiveness vs aggressiveness, and one of the ways we trained was to catch tone of voice. It’s called inter-observer reliability.
Ed Zitron would have some serious doubts. AI confidently hallucinates, and a lack of new, verified information means it’s consuming its own hallucinations and amplifying them.
We don’t know if those issues will be effectively addressed or not. Given we have to live with uncertainty, we have to be prepared for very disparate outcomes rather than assuming one or the other
Isn't there value in having these groups of people in the same room together? As their views shift, isn't it possible they can help influence others in the room who they have so many basic things and fundamental beliefs in common?
Politicians better start explaining their thinking and the problems in depth in a way the public can understand!!!! Not that difficult and it is their responsibility!!!! Actually just dump the media and replace it with people like Sarah, the Bullwork, BTC, etc!!!
Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of The Bulwark are my two favorite conservative commentators/strategists. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool liberal (indeed, I scorn Reagan's time in office for ruining the work FDR did for us), so I disagree with most of their perspectives regarding welfare and national security and whatnot. Buuuuut, they are modern conservatives, so they're socially liberal, as it is the tenor of our time. I used to think a gay republican was an oxymoron, but it's just that the old school republicans are too tied to their evangelicalism to get with the times. I found out that one can be a conservative while also treating others like human beings, and that's what drew me to them. When this election's over, I can't wait for people like Sarah and Tim to resurrect true policy conservatism while dropping the xenophobia. I love arguing about policy with people, but it's hard to do so if they're truly a bigot.
Gemini 1.5 Pro via a Gemini Advanced subscription has a 1 or 2 million token context window. A lot of what she wants to do could be done with an off-the shelf (MM)LLM product. Just need to be able to upload really big documents. But some sort of GenAI-powered, special-purpose app for analyzing qualitative data at scale seems like a good idea -- summaries and quotes, sentiment analysis, and you could have some basic stuff built in like a corpus concordancer. Also, Sarah is quite a nerd. 😊
Sarah mentioned plugging those transcripts into a machine learning model and now all I want is a Focus Group podcast where she feeds Gemini 1000 pages of transcripts and then has a chat with it as a swing voter and see how it compares to her experience.
"I believe people like me" That's what makes polarization and cmpletely different narratives, even reality. If someone can insert whatever lie or attitude into that group, it will become that group's reality. A group that ignores evidence (and rules, empathy, ethics, consistency, etc) will have much more flexibility and power. The resulting tribal beliefs will be impervious to correction from outside the echo chamber.
The piece about using AI as a front facing persuasive tool kind of scared me a little. I agree with Sarah and her usage of it a bit more than what Aria had pitched. AI is a tool and what someone deems as good, another can deem it as bad. Good and bad are often subjective based on a lot of factors. Who will decide is good and to what extent? AI, in my opinion (just an opinion, not stating it as fact), is great for learning, advancing and imagining. Using AI as a front facing persuasive tool feels like a line too close to brainwashing potentially and like Sarah said it might breed more distrust and negatives than benefits. Again, this is just an opinion. I am not claiming I am super knowledgable, these are just my apprehensions.
Also, I would like to remind folks, and Sarah knows this part well. Everybody wanted her to picture Shapiro because they thought that would be the best pic yet for whatever reason her gut instinct said let’s go with Walz and look what happened
I am a born and raised in Idaho. I am the son of a Barry Goldwater republican who was a major status recruited to run campaigns. I am a reader of every genre. I was a closet bisexual who is devoted to Medis touch and Bulwark
AI is based on 1s and zeros that has no Code of ethics so programming will be a challenge in listening to and analyzing the responses, tone of voice,etc. which may indicate anger, lack of trust, lying, etc. based on a “voice” with an different accents.
Can you let Sarah know I sent her an email via the Bulwark general email on a simulation technique that might be real helpful in analyzing the massive data she is collecting from her focus groups. It is all about "The Scientific Matrix Game". If you can give her a heads up to look for this that would be real helpful. Thanks! Chris Engle
Sarah you need to post this interview on The Bulwark, your audience is so much bigger. Reason: This is the absolute BEST discussion on political focus groups ever. I suggest cutting all Reid & Co’s waffle - just keep Sarah’s remarks as a Ted Talk. Perfection.
Sarah is a national treasure - so knowledgeable and so real. Great discussion!
I deeply appreciate the moral clarity with which Sarah speaks.
Sarah is so fun to watch. She loves what she does and her enthusiasm is delightful.
I could listen to Sarah talk all day!
Same!
Because she is intelligent! And modern talking heads are hired for being clowns. I love her.
I am a serious Sarah Longwell fan girl & watch her every time I see her in anything. This was so fascinating because it gave me such a different perspective of her. Thanks so much for such great questions! I subscribed & will be back for more episodes.
I am as well! So smart and full of common sense! I just joined The Bulwark (after watching on YT for months), mostly b/c of Sarah!
@@riflegurlsmom I also recently joined the Bulwark as a subscriber too!
If you watch the Bulwark and like Sarah Longwell this is best video ever if you have ever been curious about her how and why. Such an interesting person!
💯👍🏻
Hearing Sarah in long form like this and talking about her family and gay stuff (which I don't think I've ever heard her talk about) was a real treat!
Sarah is one of the best commentators out there armed with focus group expertise.
Love Sarah!!!
This was one of the best podcasts I've ever listened to and I liked Sarah before but now I absolutely love her. She's brilliant and amazing.
Sarah Longwell is an absolute National Treasure on par with the likes of Judy Woodruff ❤ We should all take a lesson (or several) from her courage, leadership, outlook, and tenacity! 👏🏻
Sarah is an absolute inspiration. Great podcast.
Good afternoon from the beautiful SF Bay Area. I LOVE LOVE LOVE Sarah. First started seeing her on the PBS Newshour years ago and now I get to see her almost every day. I love the Bulwark and its wonderful cast of characters. Oh yes, and by the way, I am a lifelong natural born Leftie who came out of an Evangelical Republican clan. These ex-Republicans have taught me a lot these last several years, I hear better and understand better. Thanks!
Sarah is awesome
Sarah is always so much fun to listen to. She speaks fact, experience and paradox, all wrapped up in honesty, I'm a big fan, even after I called her a coward over her comments on the Biden debate. Sarah is the first person to understand someone else's position, even if she doesn't agree with it. The world needs more like her.
Love Sarah Longwell and her podcast!
Great show. Thank you.❤💙💙💙
Sarah is a gift
My husband is pro-Trump. He thinks I’m crazy for supporting Harris. When I ask him anything about current events, he knows nothing. The funny thing is that when we met 45 years ago, I knew very little about current events or politics and he had been a political science major for a couple years.
Out of curiosity, did he finish college?
That must be frustrating
Is he a Republican or a Trumpy?
Probably thinks Trump is a really good business man, eh? You might talk to him about the fact that he ran a casino into the ground -- and casinos pretty much print money. Also, had he taken his daddy's $400 million and just invested it in an index fund, he would be a real billionaire many times over and far wealthier than he is now. So he basically pissed away his inheritance. Then ask him why he thinks Trump is a good business man.
I have seen multiple reports about hundreds of Republican women calling election offices in red states, asking if their husbands are 'able to see how I voted'. I believe that this group is greatly underrepresented in the polls. Women are hearing about the suffering and deaths happening in red states, and they are pssed too.
@@ajaynair2636 Yeah, but he changed majors.
I so enjoy listening to you, Sarah! You would be a great friend.
I will watch LITERALLY ANYTHING with Sarah. There is nothing better than watching someone who is truly, passionately, and expertly knowledgeable about something. It's like a spark. You can see it and feel it. I'll almost be sad when this election is over (not really, I'm in PA & being bombarded)
I think our dear Sarah loves focus groups. She’s been terrific these last years
Thanks Sarah
Sarah's best podcast interview I've seen or listened too. Very very insightful.
Sarah is a mentor and excellent example for young women! Empowered and Kind, also sharp as shyt!
As a Sarah Longwell fan, I feel I'm in on the ground floor of something great that's coming up for her.
If I see Sarah’s on something, I’m watching! I just love listening to her.
Around my house I refer to Sarah Longwell as my political girlfriend.
Nice listen!
Sarah is absolutely THE BEST !!!!!
Thank you, thank you!! I've been a fan of Sarah for a couple of years. This opportunity to get to know more about her thoughts and evolution personally has been energizing. She bleeds energy, involvement and concern.........and she's so much fun!!...........Paul
Sarah Longwell you are very wise! You are so stable. ❤❤❤❤❤
What a great interview! It's reassuring that there is this much intelligence and competence at work to understand how people understand current politics.
Sarah, your passion is moving, enlightening, and uplifting.
So happy this turned up in my feed. Sarah is the best from Bulwark. There's also another great interview of her with Marc Elias on Democracy Docket
I watched the Marc Elias interview and then all these other Sarah videos turned up in my feed and I’m so grateful! I watch The Bulwark every day and more Sarah is always welcome!
Oh and Love Sarah❤🤣
Talk it Satah! Great show (1st timer)
‘Keep your eye on the bigger tribe.” Brilliant. My husband and I are blue dots in a red neighborhood. We have a couple relatives who are diametrically opposed. They try to engage but we tell them that we won’t let politics destroy our relationships. Politicians will come and go. They will not come visit you in the hospital. They will not take care of your kids when you are sick or bring groceries when you are struggling. Hold on to your relationships at all cost. Don’t let politics rob you of your loved ones.
Sarah is super! My first time here today-loved the show guys! Keep it up and thank you!!
This was SO interesting. Sarah is a great guest, I could have listened to another hour or two of her talking about her focus groups.
Sarah is such a focus group nerd. I love her! 🥥🏝💙
Thank you, Sarah, for helping me to understand about what voters are thinking. I love your passion, and I learn so much.
Best political analyst in America - Sarah Longwell .
Sarah is the best. I had the biggest smile on my face in during the last few minutes of this podcast. Keep up the good work.
You can tell she absolutely loves what she does. She's made this even more interesting. 💪🏿🇺🇸💙🌊
I love hearing Sarah Longwell. She not only has an informed opinion, but she also expressed it well.
Love Sarah, my favorite TH-cam personality!!!!!
This is great. Sarah needs to keep making these kinds of appearances. She's going to be very helpful when this is over and it's time to heal. She's so optimistic despite having every reason not to be. 🙂👍
Loved this discussion and love Sarah…I love that SHE LOVES what she does!!!
I am 75..gay and this little girl ( maybe 7 or 8) and she says to me I have 2 mommies. She is saying this to me in a church setting. It brought great light to all my dark memories. It was so refreshing. I shall never forget. Keep up the good work Sarah.
So great!! Thank you!!
I'm sure I don't agree with Sarah on anything (I'm a super lefty lib) but she is amazing and I couldn't respect her more. I appreciate clear examples of people with whom I disagree on some points who are also clearly awesome.
I don't always agree with Sarah but I always appreciate her. I found her through the Bulwark (The Next Level) and I'll watch anything she's in.
19:26 I LOVE Sarah’s enthusiasm and passion
Your my political nerd super hero
Independents should seriously consider voting for Trump. He is a friggin mathematical genius. I mean, nobody does division better than that guy.
I agree about Sarah’s talent. Off the charts. I really enjoy ALL THE BULWARK CAST OF CHRACTERS. YEAH Bulwark
Great interview! I loved learning more about how focus groups are done and where they might be going with AI assistance.
The most significant thing that Sarah says is, and I’m paraphrasing it, “The Republican Party is not going back to your father’s Republican Party because the base doesn’t want it”. I think the MAGA Republican Party is and will continue to evolve. The biggest factor in its evolution is dependent upon how the next several election cycles turn out.
Nice job
Sara is brat! She’s on a roll! So much energy
Love Sarah!
Sarah Longwell is the hottest woman in political punditry and isn't even close. Also, when Aria said she was about to cry, it was exactly what I was feeling watching this at home. This was an amazing interview!
Let’s get rid of the electoral college
I am a 90% Longwell fan, but this was the best interview I’ve seen of hers.
Strangely, I wanna know Sarah’s enneagram. She thinks a lot like me in this interview. I love knowing how/why people tick. I am an information gatherer about humanity and people too. And even if people don’t agree with me, I can non-judgmentally be curious as to why they think that way. Humans are strange creatures.
I’m listening to this “podcast” and I know that I’m definitely not going to vote for Drumpf! Never!💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸💙🇺🇸
Drumpf 😂 nice lol
@@HuanHunter I wish I could say that I coined the term/name, but it’s the probably the origin of the family name!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drumpf
@@jovialbivouacker99 oh I know, I used to have an emulator downloaded on my phone that automatically changed the name every time 🤣 I just hadn't heard it used in a long time lol so respect!!
@@HuanHunter 👍🏻😉
I LOVED hearing Sarah’s origin story.
Reid Hoffman! He and I didn't directly work together, but we were at a certain fruit company in a certain division that created an online service, at the same time. He was literally about 3 or 4 cubes away from where I sat. I remember him as quiet and focused. I interacted with his manager in some of my day-to-day project work. It was fun until the online services went bye bye. Anyway, I smile when I see Reid's name because of how small the world really is, and how fast time passes.
This AI deep data thing she wants to do will lead to AI consultants, which will cause the politician to be even more fake and untruthful. They will know what lies work best.
It's also taking the qualitative data that she loves and sort of analyzing it quantitatively (sort of?) in the form of a content analysis. I'm a quantitative researcher and this is very commonly how quantitative people end up analyzing qualitative data - purposefully or not. Lol.
Defn’tly for ‘wonks’ among us all- -
Bless your not-so-little hearts-
But, fascinating to hear these two
converse on data processes that will
effect our lives measurably- -
First time viewer suggestion: improved editing would be beneficial. Thanks for a great interview & for getting Sarah to nerd out completely! I love her passion! Appreciated the AI update.
Listening to Sarah talk about machine learning qualitative data on voters is getting me excited. 😂
Sarah Longwell and Reid Hoffman in the same (digital) space. This is like data geek Woodstock!
Crime is a local issue. If crime is bad in any given area, that's the responsibility of local city/state municipalities.
Thanks Sarah…I already knew I was weird. 😂
Sarah, you don’t need machine learning, and it may never become reliable enough. In qualitative psychology research, people are trained to be reliable coders, who can also flag unusual answers. I worked as a coder on a study of assertiveness vs aggressiveness, and one of the ways we trained was to catch tone of voice. It’s called inter-observer reliability.
Ed Zitron would have some serious doubts.
AI confidently hallucinates, and a lack of new, verified information means it’s consuming its own hallucinations and amplifying them.
We don’t know if those issues will be effectively addressed or not. Given we have to live with uncertainty, we have to be prepared for very disparate outcomes rather than assuming one or the other
Isn't there value in having these groups of people in the same room together? As their views shift, isn't it possible they can help influence others in the room who they have so many basic things and fundamental beliefs in common?
Politicians better start explaining their thinking and the problems in depth in a way the public can understand!!!! Not that difficult and it is their responsibility!!!! Actually just dump the media and replace it with people like Sarah, the Bullwork, BTC, etc!!!
Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of The Bulwark are my two favorite conservative commentators/strategists. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool liberal (indeed, I scorn Reagan's time in office for ruining the work FDR did for us), so I disagree with most of their perspectives regarding welfare and national security and whatnot.
Buuuuut, they are modern conservatives, so they're socially liberal, as it is the tenor of our time. I used to think a gay republican was an oxymoron, but it's just that the old school republicans are too tied to their evangelicalism to get with the times. I found out that one can be a conservative while also treating others like human beings, and that's what drew me to them.
When this election's over, I can't wait for people like Sarah and Tim to resurrect true policy conservatism while dropping the xenophobia. I love arguing about policy with people, but it's hard to do so if they're truly a bigot.
Gemini 1.5 Pro via a Gemini Advanced subscription has a 1 or 2 million token context window. A lot of what she wants to do could be done with an off-the shelf (MM)LLM product. Just need to be able to upload really big documents.
But some sort of GenAI-powered, special-purpose app for analyzing qualitative data at scale seems like a good idea -- summaries and quotes, sentiment analysis, and you could have some basic stuff built in like a corpus concordancer.
Also, Sarah is quite a nerd. 😊
Sarah mentioned plugging those transcripts into a machine learning model and now all I want is a Focus Group podcast where she feeds Gemini 1000 pages of transcripts and then has a chat with it as a swing voter and see how it compares to her experience.
"I believe people like me" That's what makes polarization and cmpletely different narratives, even reality. If someone can insert whatever lie or attitude into that group, it will become that group's reality. A group that ignores evidence (and rules, empathy, ethics, consistency, etc) will have much more flexibility and power. The resulting tribal beliefs will be impervious to correction from outside the echo chamber.
For the undecided: Jan 6th wasn't ugly enough for you to decide?
The piece about using AI as a front facing persuasive tool kind of scared me a little. I agree with Sarah and her usage of it a bit more than what Aria had pitched. AI is a tool and what someone deems as good, another can deem it as bad. Good and bad are often subjective based on a lot of factors. Who will decide is good and to what extent? AI, in my opinion (just an opinion, not stating it as fact), is great for learning, advancing and imagining. Using AI as a front facing persuasive tool feels like a line too close to brainwashing potentially and like Sarah said it might breed more distrust and negatives than benefits. Again, this is just an opinion. I am not claiming I am super knowledgable, these are just my apprehensions.
John Gottman did the marital therapy videos. Good stuff. I'm a social worker and use it.
I hope y'all realize these rational, aspirational, level-headed conversations are not occurring on the other side. Sucks but it's true.
Also, I would like to remind folks, and Sarah knows this part well. Everybody wanted her to picture Shapiro because they thought that would be the best pic yet for whatever reason her gut instinct said let’s go with Walz and look what happened
Hi sarah
I am a born and raised in Idaho. I am the son of a Barry Goldwater republican who was a major status recruited to run campaigns. I am a reader of every genre. I was a closet bisexual who is devoted to Medis touch and Bulwark
I would like to be in a focus group
I also have served refugees since 1993. Boise Idaho is a major center of refugee retirement little city
I KNOW Haitian refugees since 1994
I love Sarah but no matter how many focus groups you do, it does not become generalizable quantitative data because you do not have a random sample.
AI is based on 1s and zeros that has no Code of ethics so programming will be a challenge in listening to and analyzing the responses, tone of voice,etc. which may indicate anger, lack of trust, lying, etc. based on a “voice” with an different accents.
Quantify the qualitative....
Can you let Sarah know I sent her an email via the Bulwark general email on a simulation technique that might be real helpful in analyzing the massive data she is collecting from her focus groups. It is all about "The Scientific Matrix Game". If you can give her a heads up to look for this that would be real helpful. Thanks! Chris Engle
Had you worried?????
Am I the only one who finds the intense cutting and splicing rather offputting?
Sarah you are problematically CORRECT!!!!!!!!!
Why not show the video where Trump says he lost. Wouldn't that show maga he's been lying 😮
Vote 🇺🇸 🗳
In the TVshow TheWestWing. Bradley W. character has to convince a Gay Republican Senator to flip the vote. Did Sarah ? watch that episode?
Blah blah blah excuses😢!!! Stop excursions on Biden already!!!!
Martinez George Brown Eric Davis John
Johnson Matthew White Richard Harris Frank
Sarah you need to post this interview on The Bulwark, your audience is so much bigger.
Reason: This is the absolute BEST discussion on political focus groups ever.
I suggest cutting all Reid & Co’s waffle - just keep Sarah’s remarks as a Ted Talk. Perfection.