QLED for gamers OLED for movie fans LED for people who only watch the news but still want HD LCD for people on a budget Plasma for people who miss the late 90s CRT for people who like electrical odor No TV for people who enjoy nature and a social life
Every TV I’ve ever had was a hand-me-down. The newest was prolly 5 years old when I got it a few years ago. I’m heavily leaning towards a Q90R (2019 model) later this year for an all-purpose living room TV to use for at least 10 years... barring functionality issues down the road of course Seeing that I’m going from tech that’s on average 10-15 years old (between all the TV’s I’ve ever had) the next one I get, my first ~new~ set, should look amazing to me year after year after year. Mildly concerned about playing my older games where input timing may be a little bit of a factor (I’m looking at you Sonic 1 + 2) but from all I’m hearing, most of the higher-end models shouldn’t really be noticeable unless I’m a competitive-level gamer, which I am most definitely not
My 50" Panasonic ST plasma is still going strong and has s better picture than most LCD tech TVs on the market, a new smart TV android box gave it a great update
@@jimmyrade7815 pfff..... im using my OLED mixed.... around 40% gaming, 40% regular SDR movies up to 4k and 20% HDR content. no burn in, or better lets say "burn out" yet, despite im playing games with fixed HUDs, and i dont use the Pixel-Shift option so i clearly should see some marks of the games already. Got it since around 1 1/2 years with heavy usage. Its all about the brightness you are using, luckily even at OLED Light 30% the picture is already bright enough for games, sometimes i even use lower settings than 30% because even my gaming monitor isnt that bright. For movies brighter, including maxxed brightness settings are also ok, especially since many movies are anyways rendered dark with barely bright, static scenes.... i think regular usage wont degrade the pixels at all. Im damn happy that i paid less than for a QLED with local dimming, still got a better picture quality and motion handling. I believe anyways OLED is only some sort of Gap filler before really "perfect" TV technology is made. I really believe in Mini-LED and similar tech, but aslong they are even more overpriced than OLEDs.... i will have some years fun with my "cheap" OLED before i switch to a better technology as soon its aviable for a fair price. Or my OLED TV still works fine as my Plasma is still doing which is from 2010, then i will probably also jump Mini-LED TVs and have for 10 years fun with my OLED. But still... i would love to see 4K/120Hz+ Plasma TVs with VRR and so... damn i would give a sh*t about OLED and stick to an "ancient" technology and laugh at OLED and QLED users with my superior motion handling and probably even more accurate/realistic colors. Thats the biggest problem i have with OLED... the motion handling sucks, ofc its better than regular LCDs (and QLEDs), but still even the ultra cheap Plasma i have (500$ for a 46" Plasma in 2010!!!!) got MUCH MUCH better motion handling than this crappy "sample-and-hold" displays, including OLED. If you were used to a good Plasma TV for a decade, you can even see the big disadvantages of an OLED. Fun Fact: NO ONE of my friends.... typical LCD-consumers, think this OLED is "superior" in anything.... they obviously havent watched a Plasma TV for a longer peroid of time, otherwise they would know how superior Plasmas were (and are in motion handling still in 2020)
@@jimmyrade7815 A friend for example though the same.... OLEDs too expensive (and the "burn in"), so he got the cheapest QLED TV to wait for proper TVs.... wow this TV is a big mess, still it costed nearly 700$, so 500 less than my OLED. No local dimming, you have so much clouds on this TV, however my friend isnt able to see this clouds, meanwhile, me, used to OLED and Plasmas... I couldnt live with this clouds. And then the other thing... this Fake-10-Bit panels. He was stunned by the HDR picture of the QLED TV... but it was so clear for me, this Panel is so far away from HDR capable- it even looked worse than playing HDR content in SDR on my OLED. In overall even my 10 year old Plasma easily beats the "modern" QLED TV for 200$ more (as my 500$ plasma beated easily even 2000$ LED/LCDs in its days) Wondering why people say "mimimi good picture".... still they landed in the last days of Plasma TVs at damn LCDs, marketed as LED-TVs. As i got my Plasma TV, even the customer advirsory "cried" to me how bad Plasmas are, especially when i want to play games on it - And yes, i had once a few lit ares from the HUD as i ONLY played on my plasma. But after like 20 hours regular usage everything was gone again. Funny thing too.... They said to me once the plasmas dont live as long as LCDs.... still a newer LED TV died already, a LCD with the same age as my Plasma too.... but my plasma still works awesome despite the fact that the panel is pretty much used already and so the brightness is already darker as it was a decade ago. (necessary fact: i always compensated the lower brightness of Plasmas with max. panel brightness!) Even Panasonic itself said at this models already: 50.000hrs usage are possible to have at least 80% of its original brightness. Meanwhile the customer advisory of the shop told me something like "after 5.000hours of usage the Plasma Panel will be only 80% as bright as new".... what a lie! However, Marketing and Industry really killed the Plasma TVs.... ofc they heated up the room, ofc early Plasmas (Pre-FullHD Time...) degraded fast over time, ofc they could suffer from burn in.... but i think times changed as the plasma TV prices dropped dramatically, so around 2-4 years before Plasmas were discontinued. I mean why paying 2000$ for a "midclass" picture quality of an overhyped tech (LCD) if i can get "Hi End" picture quality for 500$ with a plasma?
@@jetgeo4 It's sarcasm , lol. I'm debating on buying the 82 inch Samsung QLED and I feel like I'm giving a kidney away parting with 3G's . I already have a Sharp 80 inch that I spent 5 grand on in 2012. I think I'm nuts spending 8 grand on 2 TV's especially since the Sharp is still working great. I'm just dying to have the huge 4K QLED though. Going to move the 80 inch into my room, now that's styling, lol. They just dropped the price $500 bucks. I'm just worried that it will be a grand cheaper in a year.
Check Facebook market place, Craigslist ain't always the cheapest. I found one local to me for $550, it was the first generation of oled but that's not a big issue for me the lesser processing power will give me a more pure picture from all the Blu-ray discs I have . My favorite thing about OLED is the colors pop like candy and contrast is great for action movies. I bought a Droid turbo in 2016 and really began to appreciate the difference OLED makes.
OLED TV are expensive, only layers elites and doctors. Is the what the OLED stand for. Might as well get QLED TV cheaper than OLED better than normal TVS so it's a win win.
Well the top part is thin anyway, but not the bottom where all the plugs are. You still are not going to flush mount it to the wall. My C9 is very thin on the top half. The bottom half where all the electronics are is like 3 inches thick. Kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion. They should have made the whole tv a couple inches thick or used a seperate box to house the electronics.
That's why its much better to wait. In about a few years chinese companies will mass produce their own oleds and these tvs will become laughably inexpensive.
Kyojin_9 awesome, and I think you mean burn in. And I play A LOT Of video games with static HUDs and I haven’t experienced any burn in I try to be really careful about it though. I typically turn the TV off if I’m not sitting in front of it for more than a few minutes and I try to never leave a static image on the screen for too long if I can help it.
@@chincemagnet thanks for the info. I'm about to get the lg cx. I'll be playing games with the PS4 Pro on it. I was concerned about the HUD causing burn ins.
@@kyojin_9526 Nope, got a Windows PC on a OLED TV for two years now. Pitchblack wallpaper Windows+D and the TV appears off, even after two years, it still amazes me.
Maybe the most accurate interview I have ever seen, thank you. (as for those who jump out to yell how awesome OLED is, mr. Yuen Ced gave all the information to each one to decide for himself. If I want to use the damn monitor as a PC I am not buying OLED because I leave it in a picture for hours, if I want it for the 10 hours per week that I want to see a film in premium quality I will go OLED, if I want it for my child to see cartoons in bright daylight I will go with QLED and so on...)
GasLei get a oled for TV, and a monitor for PC. The question here is what is best in it’s intended purpose asa TV, it what is best for your use. As a TV, oled is superior for its intended purpose which is why I have an LG c8 in my living room. As a monitor IPS is better, which is why I have a predator X34 hooked up to my PC.
I must say that I have a surgically bright living room I have my 65 LG E8. which I do not have set to the vivid setting and the picture is perfectly watchable and many people have commented how beautiful it is. I really don’t understand how much brighter a picture needs to be, to me it would bother my eyes and just look unrealistic.
i agree, i hate the tv picture being to bright. iv still got an old panasonic plasma which people moaned about the same problems as the oled tvs, i play game and watch films on it with no burn in or any other problems, i can also still watch the tv with the blinds open and my living room is bright. need to talk the mrs into letting me get an oled :)
Baw Bag my Panasonic plasma was by far my favorite TV I always preferred it to any LED/LCD the modern replacement of a plasma television is Oled. You will not be disappointed being able to watch TV from the side chair means a lot to me plus the colors are rich and deep. When you’re ready that’s the way to go.
I have a 55C7V in a bright living room and have zero issues watching it, even with lamps and ceiling lights on. Not sure what this dude in the video is talking about TBH.
I have the oled E7 and it’s bright enough! I don’t know why people complain about it not being bright enough. At times it hurts my eyes in certain light scenes in movies. Colors out outstanding and the blacks make colors so amazing. Oled is the way to go and I game a lot as well and have had no burn in.
Well i have an oled C7 and would never go back to LCD, but in mid day i will have to apply vivid settings and then its good again. No burnins yet and the LG got the pixel refresher when you turn of the tv so.
All OLEDS burn in eventually. Had mine 6 months and it developed it. So pissed. I love the picture but the burn in kills it for me. I would never buy another OLED until they fix this flaw.
OLED is better. Infinite contrast ratio all day long. I love it. Ever since my eyes have first laid eyes on OLED displays I've fallen in love with the technology. My eyes are very light sensitive so I can't even use QLED displays. They're too bright.
It's barely an issue for normal use it's quite hard to get burn in you've really got to try misuse it but then I play PC or PlayStation for 4-5 hours a day with breaks in-between in so it's the perfect TV for me
I’ve had my LG OLED tv for nearly 4 years now and was the best purchase I ever made. I did experience small burn in recently due to news channel logo but fixed this issue by going into Picture settings and OLED panel settings and clear noise panel. This fixes a lot of picture issues and this then resolved my problem. It’s a nice recovery tool that not many people are aware of. Give it a try if you ever have this problem.
@@slo0oms So burn-in is permanent, image retention is not. What OP is describing is image retention (watched alot of CNN, switched to watch a movie or something, realised the CNN logo was still there, did a pixel refresh and boom the image retention disappeared). Burn-in is permanent and happens when the pixels physically burn out faster than the rest.
The new OLED (I have the C8) has two settings: One feature where it "dims" a logo or constant image to prevent burn in and another one where it "resets" the screen, takes an hour to do and you gotta do it every some months, so don't worry about burn in there are many things LG did in order to prevent that
Reminds me of my brothers old plasma TV. Hed do a "wipe" on it that had a white screen with a black bar wiping across it repeatedly to clear any burned in images.
@@williamdavison5641 well OLED is growing a lot and they are improving their TVs in each iteration. I have had since this comment the OLED BX and currently the C1 (2021) and great improvent over the C8 IMO. The current evo model is supposed to be 20% brighter and with much less risk or burn in, for a decent price.
@@commanderortega I don't care, its meaning, as Bill Gates and World Economic Forum takes our freedoms, bankrupts our economies, spreads Covid and CO2 pseudo science.
I wish it was specified that Qled is not an Oled fighter. The Q9 may be, but Q6, Q7, and Q8 are not even on the same field. This should be called Q9 vs Oled.
We have 3 TVs in our house a LG 77W8 an LG 65E6 and a Samsung 75Q9FN I’m no tv expert but I would say the picture on the OLED’S is way better than the QLED even on the 2016 E6 the picture just looks more natural and bye the way we still have no burn in on the E6 after nearly two years
doomtomb3 I agree yes it’s OLED for me OLED has its problem’s like any other tv there’s no such thing as a perfect tv at least not yet but in terms of picture quality OLED is better than QLED for sure and I’d just like to add how disappointed I am with my Samsung QE75Q9FN probably going to sell it soon
OLED is for people who love dark rooms and a brilliant, next-gen viewing experience. QLED is for people who love brightness. I've been using my OLED regularly for over 2 years now, 2-3 hours per day on average, so probably 1500-2000 hours total, and I have no signs of burn-in. I have a very dark room, and set the brightness and contrast levels on the TV accordingly. If you want to sear your retinas like a steak with 2000 brilliant nits, then OLED isn't your cup of tea anyway.
lol, brighter isnt better. guess it finally pays of for samsung claiming tom be the brightest (which they arent btw). side by side vs other brands, virtually all customers decide against the brighter Samsung if it means getting a better/more natural looking image.
This is not a debate oled is superior in visual quality (better than real life) no qled or ips panel even comes close. Of course the problem is oled has the potential to burn in. Also the guy on the left really knows his stuff.
Nonsense, it is not better than real life. Our eyes have a dynamic range that exceeds an Oled TV and the real world has more detail, far more colours (18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is the best estimate) and far more contrast so by definition real life is significantly better than any TV screen.
Yea fu** OLED. Just the the Samsung galaxy 8 when the keyboard burned in. Many people are going to leave their tv on overnight on accident or just all day in general. I don’t want to have to worry about a logo literally BURNING into my tv. Geez.
"OLED is fine as long as you don't mistreat it with what you watch." Yeah. They don't tell you that in the marketing. Also, they don't dare tell you that the content you enjoy or ways you intend to use your purchase are wrong before you buy, just afterwards when it breaks and say it's user error for not knowing better.
@@peterm3159 Again. That's dictating the way I chose to use my purchase. If your a.person that leaves the news on in the background, or falls asleep to a playlist of episodes or movies, that's is saying no you're not allowed to do that with your purchase.
@@JustinGreene0224 again that won't cause burn in if you let the features built into the tv to protect it and do their jobs, there is tons of real hardcore testing done on the newest OLEDs to prove this.
@George L lmao why would I be salty? I bought a Samsung qled first, hung it on my wall and than returned it to the store! I than bought the LG c9, I even had to wait 2 weeks for the LG to come in because it was fuckin sold out everywhere. All the best reviews show the lg c9 smashing the competition, the next best was the gz2000, Samsung didn't even come in 3rd! Sony took that spot. sounds like your salty lol atleast I recognized my mistake after buying a Samsung qled and returned it promptly! Haha
I disagree. I have a QLED in my bedroom and OLED in the living room. Even in a brightly lit room, the OLED is amazing. Far exceeds the picture quality of the Q in any situation. And with Dolby Vision or HD10 content I basically spoils me for other TV's. I have a LG65C8 OLED TV. These are my opinions, but it was night and day after I replaced the living room TV with the OLED. Worth the $2600.
What most people don't realize is that cheaper TVs that most of us have at home only go as bright as 450 to 600 lumens roughly. 1000 lumens on an OLED TV is enough. There's also the question of contrast, which actually makes the colors pop and nothing can match an OLED display in terms of contrast. Once you see OLED first hand, beside QLED, it is hard to remain unbiased!
That will probably ruin a LED tv as well to be honest. You can get burn in on LED tvs, you just have to try a lot harder lol. But ya, I wouldn't use your expensive oled tv for one of those fake fire places during the holidays. Tell her to minimize the window and use a screen saver while listening to music, that should help. And if the still images change every few minutes it should be ok ( if its full screen). The logos would be an issue though. Better yet run the audio to something different and turn the tv off so you don't wear out the tv. Even without burn in these tvs, led included have a limited life to them.
These two technologies will become irrelevant when Samsung finally releases their Quantum Dot OLED hybrid line of TVs, or QD-OLED for short. And yes, that is in fact a thing that Samsung has been working on.
Samsung has quietly discared QD-OLED on the trash-heap of history and is going for microLED. Finding a blue OLED that doesn't suck is a very nebulous blue-sky research type project which is just a big gamble. The problem for microLED is getting yields higher and scaling the number of assembly lines and reducing the time of each working step to crank out more working panels faster and cheaper. That's a problem we know how to solve. Wherever you see that kind of problem humans are *REALLY* good at solving it.
The reason (that is not covered in this video) that they use OLED in cell phones is power consumption. The less power consumed by the screen the more powerful other areas can be such as processors and GPS. Source: I work in a OLED R&D team
I adore OLED displays, the one on my phone is amazing, but until they get the burn in issue sorted out, which might not even happen, I'll be sticking to LED/LCD displays for TVs and computer monitors.
Oled burn in it ridiculous. My s8 has terrible burn in and I've never had the screen on for more the 3 or 4 hours at a time. That only once or twice as well
@@andyC95 yeah like the only way to make sure it doesn't burn is to only put a movie on, playing a game or watching live sport for while is gonna give it bad burn cause of still images like HUDs or a Logo
world wide As long as we keep supporting this ridiculous pixel density war, probably never. Samsung had such a hard time cramming all those leds into a tv that they had to make it 146 inches, which was made up of many panes, and on top of that it was only 4k while so many other displays at the show were displaying at 8k. Of course it's possible but don't hold your breath.
Taco Conch No, it'll happen. Also 8K is useless so I wouldn't worry about that. Next year MLED is hitting the consumer market (for the rich crowd - which I fall into) and in about 3-5 years they'll be making MLED's small enough and cheap enough for the masses.
world wide Not long. I'd say 3-5 years, but I'll get Samsung's MLED TV next year. Then I'll enjoy laughing at all the OLED fangirls (and boys) out there who worship their inferior displays.
Qled is better than Oled if you want to keep your tv for long time. We all know LED diode dies after a while, so based on that it is cheaper and practical to replace LED backlight in Qled than replacing the whole panel in Oled tv when getting deal pixels, because eventually it will happened after use in both Qled and Oled.
I own a Sony A1E 65" oled and recently got a Samsung Q60R 43" qled for the bedroom. While the qled does have a beautiful picture, there's no comparison when it come to blacks. After owning the oled for a while, the blacks on the qled look washed out no matter what picture setting I use. Unfortunately I think that will be the case when comparing any backlit television to any oled tv.
Qled looks good, however the brightness is just a sales tactic.. you would definitely not use practically in a dimly lit room. Oled is insanely good, if you can afford it..and you're not technically inept (eg leaving news channel on for days) then get one.. however this seems a difficult task for the elderly etc.
OLED's colors are completely washed out, but finer details and blacks are insane. QLED has bad blacks, but colors and HDR with good brightness is mind-blowing. The two have their cons and pros, it just depends on what you're watching.
This video was extremely helpful and probably saved me a few grand on not having to buy another t.v. 2 years from now. Not only am I in a room with Windows and light that comes through but I leave a light on as well and I'm a gamer. Both suggest I should go QLED. I'd also rather have a brighter picture than a cinematic one. So double the nits is the right way to go as well.
The one comment that helped my wife and I is about the OLED needs a black room and the QLED does not. Your comment about your mother having all the lights on in the room like a showroom when the television is on and the QLED looks perfectly fine. That has made our decision for us. Thank you.
Yea except it's literally untrue. Samsung qleds only have 1000 nits, not 2000 like he claimed and the means it's literally worse in a bright room than OLED. Great job trusting idiots on TH-cam instead of using a factual resource like rtings
What's the point of watching the video if you're gonna draw a random conclusion and disregard what the person spent 10mins explaining? OLED panels have glorious viewing angles and the blacks and contrast levels are unmatched. That's helpful especially if you have guests or a lot of people are watching the same screen. Plus proper HDR content looks amazing on these panels. The peak brightness of say 1000nits on an OLED is more than enough given how a lot of people use tvs with 300-600nits peak brightness and even then they don't set it to max. What I'm trying to say is 1000nits is enough for everyone and you don't really need 2000nits of screen brightness unless you're shining a floodlight on your screen for some reason. As for screen burn in that everyone is scared of, it's pretty rare tbh. Used to be more common in earlier displays like a pixel phone but like explained in the video, unless you leave your tv on continuously like in a hospital/waiting room, you're probably fine.
@@lordpencil6905 I just watched the video right the way through a second time and I stand by my original comment. if my LCD TV died tomorrow I'd go QLED, I don't want to watch my TV in a pitch black room, I don't want burn in where the videogame hud is I want a TV thats going to last a good long time! my LG TV is over ten years old and still going strong I don't want to pay a huge amount for a tv that won't last as long, you just get more for your money with non OLED tv's and they last longer, the next big thing I'm looking forards to one day is MLED
Just got a QLED 82" not knowing jack about TVs. It was on SALE so I made the choice, it looks like I made the right choice! 2 more days untill I get it.
*Yep and I've never seen an OLED screen with burn-in. All of my phones for Dev projects have OLED screens and all of them have been left on (Dev Setting, Screen No Sleep), while plugged in sometimes for 4 day weekends and even longer. NONE HAVE ANY KIND OF BURN-IN. IT"S A MYTH, LIKE FLAT-EARTH.*
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT I still have my galaxy s5 and on a white screen I can slightly see the keyboard on the bottom half of my screen. On my oled I can slightly see the TH-cam squares on white screens, but barely though. On game playing and movie watching I dont see a damn thing. I do have like 3 thick horizontal lines going across the screen on some scenes but barely sometimes I dont see it at all, but what tv doesn't have vertical or horizontal lines? Other than so far no burn in and I had it for a year and couple months long hours of use
@@redcrimson1028 *I even looked through my box of old phones and none of them have any kind of burn. The only one that I couldn't check was a Galaxy S3 that the screen won't turn on.*
@steveXracer *ALL GALAXY PHONES SINCE THE 1ST GALAXY - S, HAVE USED THE AMOLED SCREENS. If you really owned a Samsung, you would've known that common fact., FAKE News nice try.* *BTW the Phone Repair/Pawn Shop owner said in 15+ yrs of business he's never seen a Samsung product with any type of Burn-In. I haven't found a single person at work (over 2000 employees) that's even heard of it.*
OLED looks amazingly good. Better than QLED. OLED is the best lookin panel type I've owned. (I own TFT, VA, QLED, OLED, IPS and TN panels) *OLED burn in is VERY REAL. You CANNOT use OLED as a computer monitor without burn in.* The OLED blue sub-pixel will degrade faster than the other subpixels resulting in a yellowish blemish. Every OLED smartphones that Ive owned have had issues with burn in.
@@papasmurf205 I use many devices for sheet music, sometimes it has to be my phone. That usually involves 2-6 hours of screen on time each day. The small parts of the screen that remain black are clearly not burnt in, which makes the burn-in more noticable. Burn in becomes noticable after ~2 months of this kind of abuse.
@@jeffreydesormeaux3539 Ive been using the Samsung CHG70 for a while. Its a curved QHD QLED 144hz freesync panel with local backight dimming. The price is the worst part about it ~$500
CRT HDTVs from the early 2000s were even better. They were just extremely large and heavy. I had a Panasonic 26" CRT HDTV and it is still the best picture quality I've ever seen. OLED is right up there, too.
Q90R Samsung has much improved Anti-Reflective Coating, it is very good. No one (I know) watches TV in a personal Cinema-Room. It is not really about nits, watching Batman in Gotham is mostly a dark picture. Dark screne "are not allowed" to "glow" in 2000knits, dark has to be dark and is reflecting when sth shines on it. So anti-reflection is the key. There is no OLED with a good anti-reflection! They say they got "outstanding reflection handling" but that's just blah blah. Yes maybe indirect light, but direct light like a spotlight you can always see it as a spotlight on the screen in dark scenes. QLED now, latest model it is much better.
I remmber 2008 went to mall, sony bravia lcdtv demo there i dont remmber specific model maybe x series, fantastic experienced very reliastic just like watching live football game and beach scene, after that year they compressed their tech
So to be simple OLED's are like PLASMA TVs which R more EXPENSIVE & may create BURN IN if your a HEAVY gamer and QLED's are a better VERSION of LCD TV'S which are SAFER and CHEAPER
One point that wasn't mentioned, new Samsung QLEDs also support Freesync to match fps on newer game consoles and PCs. OLEDs do not. On a variable fps device, such as a PC or game console, QLED is far superior in this regard.
That was an excellent review! Smart, sensible questions, and direct, easy to understand answers. I have to know about Consumer Electronics for my part-time job, and TVs and Soundbars are the biggest sellers. This video was very helpful in my understanding of the major differences between the OLED and QLED. Thank you for Sharing this!
@@stevethea5250 From what I remembered, QLED is best for everyday watching in giving you the most realistic and brightest picture. The OLED is best for movies, because of its deepest dark colors, as well as for some sporting events.
OLED is superior. Went into a Micro center for some pc parts but drifted over to TVs to check them out and the guy was trying to convince me QLED was the better technology until I pointed out the pure blacks and lack of light bleeding on OLED.
you want a tv to last 10 years? you don't have money for purchase a new tv? you want all the tv manufacturers bankrupt like ? then if you use for 10 years then for then years company close the shop? how if you sell a underwear and your customers ask you that they want to wear the underwear for 10 years?
Technology marches on. OLED has improved and Burn in become rare. as of early 2020 LG has announced that it would stop its domestic LCD production in favor of OLED.
OLED is in his infancy. In 8-10 years you can buy an OLED. i want to use it also as a frame for photos and paintings, burn-ins are there a no go. you buy a tv for round about 10 years and burn-in danger is too big for me. OLED has a little bit better black, QLED has a better white. If you see comparisons, you'll find that OLEDs have too much color saturation. People love the strong colors. But QLED's colors are closer to real life. Ask yourself at every picture comparison: How would it look in real?
Read a report 65% of Americans don't even have $1,000. in savings; more important to have the latest, greatest, newest, whatever, and just buy it on whatever credit "floats your boat." How about a Made In America TV; at least then the money stays in America.
QLED only has good blacks when the screen itself is entirely black, or large portions of it are black. For normal viewing, you will constantly notice that it has terrible "darks". That is, shadows and darker details will always have this milky gray glow that is notorious on the cheapest LCD panels. QLED and OLED are entirely different leagues and are in no way competing for the same market. QLED is the high-end of the low-end TV market, nothing more.
Great review. I enjoyed that as I'm now planning my Next Gen TV. Gaming and movies are critical. If any followers can offer advice...bring it on! I have Samsung phone and tablet, LG 300w sound system (thinking about an upgrade too), budget of £2,500. Cheers folks.
Well "superior picture" is subjective since QLED actually have better color and are capable of producing colors OLED can't so don't see how OLED can have superior picture if it can't even produce colors QLED can?
Do most people really only watch 2 hours and then turn it off? Really? Honest? C'mon, seriously? You're kidding? Burn-in sounds like a deal-killer to me.
"There is no better there is only different." Thank You! Oh and it's not just brightness from Qled it's actually an anti glare panel system that can diffuse light on the screen!
Thanks for this video! It was really well explained. The only thing stopping me from going OLED is my hardcore gaming, and I'm not sure if I'm willing to accommodate moving my xbox every now and then just to watch a movie or having to take extra steps to ensure no burn in happens. The fact that they don't even offer Burn in protection for the first year truly makes me not want to attempt it. It's so hard to decide as I love movies & gaming.
its not an issue if you do screen refresh, but oleds arent really for gaming. your spending money on features like upscaling/processing, which is usually counterproductive for gaming (as it adds lag). i would look at the new 900/950 series from sony, as they added VRR and a couple of other stuff, and you can set a custom profile for the console input, turning off any picture enhancing and lag will be same as other brands.
LG C1 range also does this. It's designed for gamers with new gen consoles, boasting 1ms input lag OLED display designed for gaming and HDMI 2.1 allowing 4k 120hz
Thank you! Finally someone who clearly discusses pros and cons of both technologies! I've heard of the burn-in problem a lot. That's pretty much the main thing preventing me from buying one. Spend $1800 or more, and 3 months later you have an image burned in, and don't have any warranty against that. Especially now, during the lockdown, when my family is watching many hours non-stop of TV...it's too risky to spend that much on a TV that might have burn in. Plus, our living room is fairly bright, and depending on the time of day we get direct sunlight coming in through the windows, so it's bright even w/ the shades closed! So QLED is the way to go for us...
Yeah but it's really just a matter of common sense maintenance and being aware of what you're doing with the tv. For example, I'm playing Elden Ring on ps5 on my new OLED. Instead of just leaving it on screen, I change it to live tv to keep the picture fresh while I'm currently in the bathroom watching videos and typing this handy message. It's similar to plasmas when they came out. So just don't leave anything stagnant on the screen. Also, I'm really happy with the TV. It's an LG C2 77" and it's fantastic. When there's a light or "spell" cast in game, it really, really pops. And the black is pitch. Anyways, there's my two cents.
I have played games for decades... I went from LCD to OLED about when this video went live. I bought the newest LG OLED. I have been dealing with Burn-in for about the last year. At first I noticed the burn-in was happening from playing 1 specific game. But soon after I noticed it, I was seeing other games burning in. It's as if the pixels are all starting to give up... not just the ones being abused, but everywhere on the panel. Sadly... I spent $2000+ on this TV, and for the first few months, it was absolutely the best decision I made. I was angry with Samsung at the time, so QLED was out. Now, everything I read about QLED TVs, is that they experience ZERO burn-in from gamers. Next up is an 8K QLED... when I can afford to spend that much money on a TV again. I can't ever recoup any money with this OLED, because its basically ruined.
QLED for gamers
OLED for movie fans
LED for people who only watch the news but still want HD
LCD for people on a budget
Plasma for people who miss the late 90s
CRT for people who like electrical odor
No TV for people who enjoy nature and a social life
Well, this comment sums it all. LOL
😜That was funny 👍
plasma for ppl who miss the 90's?? Would more be ppl who miss the 00's.. The 90's where hardly a plasma era...
@@1974best rear projection tv would be the right one for the 90s
paper for people who just watch old cartoons in slomo.
"8 hours playing a game"
You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.
😂😂
Lol
Bwahahhahahahahaah
I'm a noob and play 12 hr/day
iNSPIRE HD, some people work for a living.
''People keep TV's for 5 years''.
Meanwhile my family uses a TV for 15 years....
and a plasma tv in the attic for over 20 years lol.
Kioumaars Taeed my tv is almost 20years 🤣
Every TV I’ve ever had was a hand-me-down. The newest was prolly 5 years old when I got it a few years ago.
I’m heavily leaning towards a Q90R (2019 model) later this year for an all-purpose living room TV to use for at least 10 years... barring functionality issues down the road of course
Seeing that I’m going from tech that’s on average 10-15 years old (between all the TV’s I’ve ever had) the next one I get, my first ~new~ set, should look amazing to me year after year after year.
Mildly concerned about playing my older games where input timing may be a little bit of a factor (I’m looking at you Sonic 1 + 2) but from all I’m hearing, most of the higher-end models shouldn’t really be noticeable unless I’m a competitive-level gamer, which I am most definitely not
Ive got a couple of 10 year old LG and Samsungs but other brands lasts dont last long.
My 50" Panasonic ST plasma is still going strong and has s better picture than most LCD tech TVs on the market, a new smart TV android box gave it a great update
I’m sure their knees are touching
so? theyre in a relationship
Playing footsie forsure
FACTS
Why is this hilarious 😂😂
Imagine what was touching when they were off screen
Meanwhile my LED thinks it’s a mirror...
lasarith2 this is not getting enough likes 😂
I feel your pain btw😑
Thats because you put it on a place where a plant can be grown under lot of sunlight
lasarith2 lol
😂😂😂
Playing game 8 hours a day? So... you are wasting 16 hours, geez!
So no OLED for me
@@jimmyrade7815 pfff..... im using my OLED mixed.... around 40% gaming, 40% regular SDR movies up to 4k and 20% HDR content.
no burn in, or better lets say "burn out" yet, despite im playing games with fixed HUDs, and i dont use the Pixel-Shift option so i clearly should see some marks of the games already. Got it since around 1 1/2 years with heavy usage.
Its all about the brightness you are using, luckily even at OLED Light 30% the picture is already bright enough for games, sometimes i even use lower settings than 30% because even my gaming monitor isnt that bright. For movies brighter, including maxxed brightness settings are also ok, especially since many movies are anyways rendered dark with barely bright, static scenes.... i think regular usage wont degrade the pixels at all.
Im damn happy that i paid less than for a QLED with local dimming, still got a better picture quality and motion handling. I believe anyways OLED is only some sort of Gap filler before really "perfect" TV technology is made. I really believe in Mini-LED and similar tech, but aslong they are even more overpriced than OLEDs.... i will have some years fun with my "cheap" OLED before i switch to a better technology as soon its aviable for a fair price. Or my OLED TV still works fine as my Plasma is still doing which is from 2010, then i will probably also jump Mini-LED TVs and have for 10 years fun with my OLED.
But still... i would love to see 4K/120Hz+ Plasma TVs with VRR and so... damn i would give a sh*t about OLED and stick to an "ancient" technology and laugh at OLED and QLED users with my superior motion handling and probably even more accurate/realistic colors. Thats the biggest problem i have with OLED... the motion handling sucks, ofc its better than regular LCDs (and QLEDs), but still even the ultra cheap Plasma i have (500$ for a 46" Plasma in 2010!!!!) got MUCH MUCH better motion handling than this crappy "sample-and-hold" displays, including OLED. If you were used to a good Plasma TV for a decade, you can even see the big disadvantages of an OLED. Fun Fact: NO ONE of my friends.... typical LCD-consumers, think this OLED is "superior" in anything.... they obviously havent watched a Plasma TV for a longer peroid of time, otherwise they would know how superior Plasmas were (and are in motion handling still in 2020)
@@jimmyrade7815 A friend for example though the same.... OLEDs too expensive (and the "burn in"), so he got the cheapest QLED TV to wait for proper TVs.... wow this TV is a big mess, still it costed nearly 700$, so 500 less than my OLED. No local dimming, you have so much clouds on this TV, however my friend isnt able to see this clouds, meanwhile, me, used to OLED and Plasmas... I couldnt live with this clouds. And then the other thing... this Fake-10-Bit panels. He was stunned by the HDR picture of the QLED TV... but it was so clear for me, this Panel is so far away from HDR capable- it even looked worse than playing HDR content in SDR on my OLED. In overall even my 10 year old Plasma easily beats the "modern" QLED TV for 200$ more (as my 500$ plasma beated easily even 2000$ LED/LCDs in its days)
Wondering why people say "mimimi good picture".... still they landed in the last days of Plasma TVs at damn LCDs, marketed as LED-TVs.
As i got my Plasma TV, even the customer advirsory "cried" to me how bad Plasmas are, especially when i want to play games on it - And yes, i had once a few lit ares from the HUD as i ONLY played on my plasma. But after like 20 hours regular usage everything was gone again.
Funny thing too.... They said to me once the plasmas dont live as long as LCDs.... still a newer LED TV died already, a LCD with the same age as my Plasma too.... but my plasma still works awesome despite the fact that the panel is pretty much used already and so the brightness is already darker as it was a decade ago. (necessary fact: i always compensated the lower brightness of Plasmas with max. panel brightness!)
Even Panasonic itself said at this models already: 50.000hrs usage are possible to have at least 80% of its original brightness. Meanwhile the customer advisory of the shop told me something like "after 5.000hours of usage the Plasma Panel will be only 80% as bright as new".... what a lie! However, Marketing and Industry really killed the Plasma TVs.... ofc they heated up the room, ofc early Plasmas (Pre-FullHD Time...) degraded fast over time, ofc they could suffer from burn in.... but i think times changed as the plasma TV prices dropped dramatically, so around 2-4 years before Plasmas were discontinued. I mean why paying 2000$ for a "midclass" picture quality of an overhyped tech (LCD) if i can get "Hi End" picture quality for 500$ with a plasma?
sleeping is enjotable gaming is fun,thats not wasted time
@@Cazanu417 he’s joking
"about 6 credit cards thick"
my man, my American ass is gonna need you to convert that to football fields
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
For British will need to be converted to size of Wales
That's 0.000843 double decker buses.
4:32 "6 credit cards thick", ironic, seeing as thats about how many credit cards you need to buy one.
You must have some really weak cards judging that you need 6 to make 2-3K. LOL
OMG 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 NICE ONE!!!
@@jetgeo4 It's sarcasm , lol. I'm debating on buying the 82 inch Samsung QLED and I feel like I'm giving a kidney away parting with 3G's . I already have a Sharp 80 inch that I spent 5 grand on in 2012. I think I'm nuts spending 8 grand on 2 TV's especially since the Sharp is still working great. I'm just dying to have the huge 4K QLED though. Going to move the 80 inch into my room, now that's styling, lol. They just dropped the price $500 bucks. I'm just worried that it will be a grand cheaper in a year.
Check Facebook market place, Craigslist ain't always the cheapest. I found one local to me for $550, it was the first generation of oled but that's not a big issue for me the lesser processing power will give me a more pure picture from all the Blu-ray discs I have . My favorite thing about OLED is the colors pop like candy and contrast is great for action movies. I bought a Droid turbo in 2016 and really began to appreciate the difference OLED makes.
@@tbone9246 Just sell your old one
6 credit cards thick that’s how many he maxed out to get his tv
OLED TV are expensive, only layers elites and doctors. Is the what the OLED stand for.
Might as well get QLED TV cheaper than OLED better than normal TVS so it's a win win.
Well the top part is thin anyway, but not the bottom where all the plugs are. You still are not going to flush mount it to the wall. My C9 is very thin on the top half. The bottom half where all the electronics are is like 3 inches thick. Kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion. They should have made the whole tv a couple inches thick or used a seperate box to house the electronics.
KAMERON BELL I’m neither of those and I have the a1e since it was released.
That's why its much better to wait. In about a few years chinese companies will mass produce their own oleds and these tvs will become laughably inexpensive.
Lol
So if you live in Sweden, just get an OLED. The sun wont be back until march ;)
😂😂😂😂😂👌🏻
Get oled in the winter and qled in the summer
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“Something crazy like 8hours a day”
My man is an angel
My grandparents always did say my living room is like a dungeon. Good thing I went with OLED.
So how was it ?!
I keep hearing about the burn out problem
Is it true
Kyojin_9 awesome, and I think you mean burn in. And I play A LOT Of video games with static HUDs and I haven’t experienced any burn in
I try to be really careful about it though. I typically turn the TV off if I’m not sitting in front of it for more than a few minutes and I try to never leave a static image on the screen for too long if I can help it.
David cool thanks
@@chincemagnet thanks for the info. I'm about to get the lg cx. I'll be playing games with the PS4 Pro on it. I was concerned about the HUD causing burn ins.
@@kyojin_9526 Nope, got a Windows PC on a OLED TV for two years now. Pitchblack wallpaper Windows+D and the TV appears off, even after two years, it still amazes me.
Maybe the most accurate interview I have ever seen, thank you. (as for those who jump out to yell how awesome OLED is, mr. Yuen Ced gave all the information to each one to decide for himself. If I want to use the damn monitor as a PC I am not buying OLED because I leave it in a picture for hours, if I want it for the 10 hours per week that I want to see a film in premium quality I will go OLED, if I want it for my child to see cartoons in bright daylight I will go with QLED and so on...)
GasLei get a oled for TV, and a monitor for PC.
The question here is what is best in it’s intended purpose asa TV, it what is best for your use.
As a TV, oled is superior for its intended purpose which is why I have an LG c8 in my living room.
As a monitor IPS is better, which is why I have a predator X34 hooked up to my PC.
“Something crazy like 8 hours a day...”🤣🤣🤣 oh buddy...yeah QLED then.
Inaccurate time frame
Man you ask the correct questions. You covered everything. I rly liked when you said " what if im a gamer that stays 8 hours playing each day"
you're jobless. that's why stays 8 hours playing each day. go for work don't waste your parent money lazy ass.
I must say that I have a surgically bright living room I have my 65 LG E8. which I do not have set to the vivid setting and the picture is perfectly watchable and many people have commented how beautiful it is. I really don’t understand how much brighter a picture needs to be, to me it would bother my eyes and just look unrealistic.
i agree, i hate the tv picture being to bright. iv still got an old panasonic plasma which people moaned about the same problems as the oled tvs, i play game and watch films on it with no burn in or any other problems, i can also still watch the tv with the blinds open and my living room is bright. need to talk the mrs into letting me get an oled :)
Baw Bag my Panasonic plasma was by far my favorite TV I always preferred it to any LED/LCD the modern replacement of a plasma television is Oled. You will not be disappointed being able to watch TV from the side chair means a lot to me plus the colors are rich and deep. When you’re ready that’s the way to go.
I have a 55C7V in a bright living room and have zero issues watching it, even with lamps and ceiling lights on. Not sure what this dude in the video is talking about TBH.
I have the oled E7 and it’s bright enough! I don’t know why people complain about it not being bright enough. At times it hurts my eyes in certain light scenes in movies. Colors out outstanding and the blacks make colors so amazing. Oled is the way to go and I game a lot as well and have had no burn in.
Well i have an oled C7 and would never go back to LCD, but in mid day i will have to apply vivid settings and then its good again. No burnins yet and the LG got the pixel refresher when you turn of the tv so.
“OLED tv, best in a black room”
Shows OLED tv I’m white room
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Hi white room
2:06 The whale creature swimming right into the camera. xD
First time I heard someone measuring thickness in “credit cards”. xD
I’m gonna do that now.
Oh the new iPad? About two and a half credit cards think.
Roman00 my penis is 24 credit cards thick
1:38
This was extremely helpful. Thank you! Keep i tup
Hot dayum, this was a friggin' amazingly educational back and forth. THANK YOU.
I found this review to be helpful. I love OLED but fear burn in.
All OLEDS burn in eventually. Had mine 6 months and it developed it. So pissed. I love the picture but the burn in kills it for me. I would never buy another OLED until they fix this flaw.
OLED is better. Infinite contrast ratio all day long.
I love it. Ever since my eyes have first laid eyes on OLED displays I've fallen in love with the technology.
My eyes are very light sensitive so I can't even use QLED displays. They're too bright.
I'd go OLED if it weren't for the screen burn issue.
Same here.
It's barely an issue for normal use it's quite hard to get burn in you've really got to try misuse it but then I play PC or PlayStation for 4-5 hours a day with breaks in-between in so it's the perfect TV for me
I would as well if not for that and also the price! damn they are hella expensive
@@Spicerakos I am really considering an OLED, can you tell about the nature of your use of it ..
@Aerial and you didn't have any burn in issues?
Hint....one of them is actually an LCD
I can't even find a Panasonic TV available for sale in the US anymore.
I own a Plasma Panasonic and I'd love to buy an OLED Panasonic, but damn price for the 65" EZ1000...
This man said 6 credit cards thick💀🤣. Reminds me of the memes of how USA uses everything, but the metric system
2/10ths of a banana
I’ve had my LG OLED tv for nearly 4 years now and was the best purchase I ever made. I did experience small burn in recently due to news channel logo but fixed this issue by going into Picture settings and OLED panel settings and clear noise panel. This fixes a lot of picture issues and this then resolved my problem. It’s a nice recovery tool that not many people are aware of. Give it a try if you ever have this problem.
Is it good for gaming ??...does it burn quick??
@@SugarFreeKool-aid.TheWorstKind watch the video
That's not burn-in, that's image retention
@@jahismygod2 can you tell me the difference and whether image retention is permanent or not pls ?
@@slo0oms So burn-in is permanent, image retention is not.
What OP is describing is image retention (watched alot of CNN, switched to watch a movie or something, realised the CNN logo was still there, did a pixel refresh and boom the image retention disappeared).
Burn-in is permanent and happens when the pixels physically burn out faster than the rest.
The new OLED (I have the C8) has two settings: One feature where it "dims" a logo or constant image to prevent burn in and another one where it "resets" the screen, takes an hour to do and you gotta do it every some months, so don't worry about burn in there are many things LG did in order to prevent that
Reminds me of my brothers old plasma TV. Hed do a "wipe" on it that had a white screen with a black bar wiping across it repeatedly to clear any burned in images.
OLED-Bright-Picture-Family type Room
Does any of this really matter after the last 3 years?
@@williamdavison5641 well OLED is growing a lot and they are improving their TVs in each iteration. I have had since this comment the OLED BX and currently the C1 (2021) and great improvent over the C8 IMO. The current evo model is supposed to be 20% brighter and with much less risk or burn in, for a decent price.
@@commanderortega I don't care, its meaning, as Bill Gates and World Economic Forum takes our freedoms, bankrupts our economies, spreads Covid and CO2 pseudo science.
I wish it was specified that Qled is not an Oled fighter. The Q9 may be, but Q6, Q7, and Q8 are not even on the same field.
This should be called Q9 vs Oled.
We have 3 TVs in our house a LG 77W8 an LG 65E6 and a Samsung 75Q9FN I’m no tv expert but I would say the picture on the OLED’S is way better than the QLED even on the 2016 E6 the picture just looks more natural and bye the way we still have no burn in on the E6 after nearly two years
There's a reason why TechniColor use LG OLED's to calibrate their films for home use!
More people need to read this comment. Just watch them in stores. OLED kills LCD
doomtomb3 I agree yes it’s OLED for me OLED has its problem’s like any other tv there’s no such thing as a perfect tv at least not yet but in terms of picture quality OLED is better than QLED for sure and I’d just like to add how disappointed I am with my Samsung QE75Q9FN probably going to sell it soon
Good man
A 77 W8.....DAmn!
OLED perfect for Cinema.. or Cinematic room.. QLED typical living room with windows ..
OLED is for people who love dark rooms and a brilliant, next-gen viewing experience. QLED is for people who love brightness.
I've been using my OLED regularly for over 2 years now, 2-3 hours per day on average, so probably 1500-2000 hours total, and I have no signs of burn-in. I have a very dark room, and set the brightness and contrast levels on the TV accordingly. If you want to sear your retinas like a steak with 2000 brilliant nits, then OLED isn't your cup of tea anyway.
lol, brighter isnt better. guess it finally pays of for samsung claiming tom be the brightest (which they arent btw).
side by side vs other brands, virtually all customers decide against the brighter Samsung if it means getting a better/more natural looking image.
This is not a debate oled is superior in visual quality (better than real life) no qled or ips panel even comes close. Of course the problem is oled has the potential to burn in.
Also the guy on the left really knows his stuff.
Nonsense, it is not better than real life. Our eyes have a dynamic range that exceeds an Oled TV and the real world has more detail, far more colours (18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 is the best estimate) and far more contrast so by definition real life is significantly better than any TV screen.
cbcdesign001 I don’t think you’ve ever seen an LG oled panel in person.
Yea fu** OLED. Just the the Samsung galaxy 8 when the keyboard burned in. Many people are going to leave their tv on overnight on accident or just all day in general. I don’t want to have to worry about a logo literally BURNING into my tv. Geez.
My 2016 Samsung QLED is still spectacular. Those Quantum Dots really do make a difference. And they're still distributing updates for it.
The guy on the left sounds exactly like Daniel Radcliffe and now I can't un-hear Harry Potter talking about TVs.
Omg
So true!
I was aware differences between these two but this man described with lot of details.
So After being aware of the differences wanna buy a tv?
3:08 Samsung qled QE49Q70R has 1000 nits only.
This is how a review should be done. Thank you 👍🏽
"OLED is fine as long as you don't mistreat it with what you watch."
Yeah. They don't tell you that in the marketing. Also, they don't dare tell you that the content you enjoy or ways you intend to use your purchase are wrong before you buy, just afterwards when it breaks and say it's user error for not knowing better.
The new OLEDs have tons of features to prevent burn in, you'd have to turn them off and go out of your way to get burn in on your tv
@@peterm3159 Again. That's dictating the way I chose to use my purchase. If your a.person that leaves the news on in the background, or falls asleep to a playlist of episodes or movies, that's is saying no you're not allowed to do that with your purchase.
@@JustinGreene0224 again that won't cause burn in if you let the features built into the tv to protect it and do their jobs, there is tons of real hardcore testing done on the newest OLEDs to prove this.
@George L that's not true, you'd get morons shutting off the safe guards and fucking up their OLEDs and draining warranty like crazy.
@George L lmao why would I be salty? I bought a Samsung qled first, hung it on my wall and than returned it to the store! I than bought the LG c9, I even had to wait 2 weeks for the LG to come in because it was fuckin sold out everywhere. All the best reviews show the lg c9 smashing the competition, the next best was the gz2000, Samsung didn't even come in 3rd! Sony took that spot. sounds like your salty lol atleast I recognized my mistake after buying a Samsung qled and returned it promptly! Haha
I disagree. I have a QLED in my bedroom and OLED in the living room. Even in a brightly lit room, the OLED is amazing. Far exceeds the picture quality of the Q in any situation. And with Dolby Vision or HD10 content I basically spoils me for other TV's. I have a LG65C8 OLED TV. These are my opinions, but it was night and day after I replaced the living room TV with the OLED. Worth the $2600.
It's your opinion but it's also fact!
I have the same TV as you for my main tv and it is just amazing.
I didnt understand your last sentence. Did you replace your Oled or Qled ?
What about the reflection?
I suspect that's because not all QLED are created equal
What most people don't realize is that cheaper TVs that most of us have at home only go as bright as 450 to 600 lumens roughly. 1000 lumens on an OLED TV is enough. There's also the question of contrast, which actually makes the colors pop and nothing can match an OLED display in terms of contrast. Once you see OLED first hand, beside QLED, it is hard to remain unbiased!
Saikat Kar nuts or lumens??
my wife watches 10 hour long youtube vids of mixed music with logos and still images so that would leave my OLED looking like a zebra.
I have a gs9 plus.... I can confirm this 😅
That will probably ruin a LED tv as well to be honest. You can get burn in on LED tvs, you just have to try a lot harder lol. But ya, I wouldn't use your expensive oled tv for one of those fake fire places during the holidays. Tell her to minimize the window and use a screen saver while listening to music, that should help. And if the still images change every few minutes it should be ok ( if its full screen). The logos would be an issue though. Better yet run the audio to something different and turn the tv off so you don't wear out the tv. Even without burn in these tvs, led included have a limited life to them.
@@biteme263 not really mate
😂😂😂
Divorce now
These two technologies will become irrelevant when Samsung finally releases their Quantum Dot OLED hybrid line of TVs, or QD-OLED for short. And yes, that is in fact a thing that Samsung has been working on.
we’re still 4+ years away from that
Samsung has quietly discared QD-OLED on the trash-heap of history and is going for microLED. Finding a blue OLED that doesn't suck is a very nebulous blue-sky research type project which is just a big gamble. The problem for microLED is getting yields higher and scaling the number of assembly lines and reducing the time of each working step to crank out more working panels faster and cheaper. That's a problem we know how to solve. Wherever you see that kind of problem humans are *REALLY* good at solving it.
Jordan Brown will become... but the cost of those tvs will be a lot so oled and qled will stay for many years, lcd will fall though
The reason (that is not covered in this video) that they use OLED in cell phones is power consumption. The less power consumed by the screen the more powerful other areas can be such as processors and GPS.
Source: I work in a OLED R&D team
Go work on burn ins
D A sounds like a cool jobs!
I adore OLED displays, the one on my phone is amazing, but until they get the burn in issue sorted out, which might not even happen, I'll be sticking to LED/LCD displays for TVs and computer monitors.
Oled burn in it ridiculous. My s8 has terrible burn in and I've never had the screen on for more the 3 or 4 hours at a time. That only once or twice as well
Damn same just been having now for 2 months and got it late 2017
Part of the technology and no way around it.
It happened no more then two months of having the phone. I'd hate to have a tv and worry about that every time I use it.
@@andyC95 yeah like the only way to make sure it doesn't burn is to only put a movie on, playing a game or watching live sport for while is gonna give it bad burn cause of still images like HUDs or a Logo
@@QuickCritique yeah
MicroLED is going to kill both.
the best of both worlds
My Reviews
It may well do. But how long will we have to wait to get them to a reasonable standard, reasonable size and at a reasonable price?
world wide As long as we keep supporting this ridiculous pixel density war, probably never. Samsung had such a hard time cramming all those leds into a tv that they had to make it 146 inches, which was made up of many panes, and on top of that it was only 4k while so many other displays at the show were displaying at 8k. Of course it's possible but don't hold your breath.
Taco Conch No, it'll happen. Also 8K is useless so I wouldn't worry about that. Next year MLED is hitting the consumer market (for the rich crowd - which I fall into) and in about 3-5 years they'll be making MLED's small enough and cheap enough for the masses.
world wide Not long. I'd say 3-5 years, but I'll get Samsung's MLED TV next year. Then I'll enjoy laughing at all the OLED fangirls (and boys) out there who worship their inferior displays.
Qled is better than Oled if you want to keep your tv for long time. We all know LED diode dies after a while, so based on that it is cheaper and practical to replace LED backlight in Qled than replacing the whole panel in Oled tv when getting deal pixels, because eventually it will happened after use in both Qled and Oled.
Left dude sounds exactly like Daniel Radcliffe. Not just because of the accent.
"I trust you on this, Harry"
I own a Sony A1E 65" oled and recently got a Samsung Q60R 43" qled for the bedroom. While the qled does have a beautiful picture, there's no comparison when it come to blacks. After owning the oled for a while, the blacks on the qled look washed out no matter what picture setting I use. Unfortunately I think that will be the case when comparing any backlit television to any oled tv.
Qled looks good, however the brightness is just a sales tactic.. you would definitely not use practically in a dimly lit room. Oled is insanely good, if you can afford it..and you're not technically inept (eg leaving news channel on for days) then get one.. however this seems a difficult task for the elderly etc.
Qled outshines OLED with its colors and not just brightness.
@@eliasgarcia6576 in a bright room maybe, otherwise won't be comparable to an oled in a dimly light room with correct brightness.
OLED's colors are completely washed out, but finer details and blacks are insane. QLED has bad blacks, but colors and HDR with good brightness is mind-blowing. The two have their cons and pros, it just depends on what you're watching.
This video was extremely helpful and probably saved me a few grand on not having to buy another t.v. 2 years from now. Not only am I in a room with Windows and light that comes through but I leave a light on as well and I'm a gamer. Both suggest I should go QLED. I'd also rather have a brighter picture than a cinematic one. So double the nits is the right way to go as well.
Got a QLED for the living room and OLED for the bedroom. Works out really well.
You forgot to put 'mic drop' at the end of your sentence.
@@AdamWoodhouse 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The one comment that helped my wife and I is about the OLED needs a black room and the QLED does not. Your comment about your mother having all the lights on in the room like a showroom when the television is on and the QLED looks perfectly fine. That has made our decision for us. Thank you.
Yes same for me. Thanks.
Yea except it's literally untrue. Samsung qleds only have 1000 nits, not 2000 like he claimed and the means it's literally worse in a bright room than OLED. Great job trusting idiots on TH-cam instead of using a factual resource like rtings
so basically QLED is superior overall
What's the point of watching the video if you're gonna draw a random conclusion and disregard what the person spent 10mins explaining?
OLED panels have glorious viewing angles and the blacks and contrast levels are unmatched. That's helpful especially if you have guests or a lot of people are watching the same screen. Plus proper HDR content looks amazing on these panels.
The peak brightness of say 1000nits on an OLED is more than enough given how a lot of people use tvs with 300-600nits peak brightness and even then they don't set it to max. What I'm trying to say is 1000nits is enough for everyone and you don't really need 2000nits of screen brightness unless you're shining a floodlight on your screen for some reason.
As for screen burn in that everyone is scared of, it's pretty rare tbh. Used to be more common in earlier displays like a pixel phone but like explained in the video, unless you leave your tv on continuously like in a hospital/waiting room, you're probably fine.
@@lordpencil6905 I just watched the video right the way through a second time and I stand by my original comment. if my LCD TV died tomorrow I'd go QLED, I don't want to watch my TV in a pitch black room, I don't want burn in where the videogame hud is I want a TV thats going to last a good long time! my LG TV is over ten years old and still going strong I don't want to pay a huge amount for a tv that won't last as long, you just get more for your money with non OLED tv's and they last longer, the next big thing I'm looking forards to one day is MLED
Pretty much yes.
Was looking at an oled65c8pua in a brightly lit Best Buy showroom an hour ago. Brightness wasn’t an issue for OLED.
It was on retail mode
Just got a QLED 82" not knowing jack about TVs. It was on SALE so I made the choice, it looks like I made the right choice! 2 more days untill I get it.
Good review. I have been wondering about OLED / QLED
I find the oled bright enough in most conditions
*Yep and I've never seen an OLED screen with burn-in. All of my phones for Dev projects have OLED screens and all of them have been left on (Dev Setting, Screen No Sleep), while plugged in sometimes for 4 day weekends and even longer. NONE HAVE ANY KIND OF BURN-IN. IT"S A MYTH, LIKE FLAT-EARTH.*
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT I still have my galaxy s5 and on a white screen I can slightly see the keyboard on the bottom half of my screen. On my oled I can slightly see the TH-cam squares on white screens, but barely though. On game playing and movie watching I dont see a damn thing. I do have like 3 thick horizontal lines going across the screen on some scenes but barely sometimes I dont see it at all, but what tv doesn't have vertical or horizontal lines? Other than so far no burn in and I had it for a year and couple months long hours of use
@@redcrimson1028 *I even looked through my box of old phones and none of them have any kind of burn. The only one that I couldn't check was a Galaxy S3 that the screen won't turn on.*
@Klumsy Kameleon *You're that special kinda Stupid aren't you?*
@steveXracer *ALL GALAXY PHONES SINCE THE 1ST GALAXY - S, HAVE USED THE AMOLED SCREENS. If you really owned a Samsung, you would've known that common fact., FAKE News nice try.*
*BTW the Phone Repair/Pawn Shop owner said in 15+ yrs of business he's never seen a Samsung product with any type of Burn-In. I haven't found a single person at work (over 2000 employees) that's even heard of it.*
So your telling me i need a Qled for games & a Oled for movies, ok cool.
Now help me explain these Amazon charges to my wife.😁
OLED looks amazingly good. Better than QLED.
OLED is the best lookin panel type I've owned.
(I own TFT, VA, QLED, OLED, IPS and TN panels)
*OLED burn in is VERY REAL. You CANNOT use OLED as a computer monitor without burn in.*
The OLED blue sub-pixel will degrade faster than the other subpixels resulting in a yellowish blemish.
Every OLED smartphones that Ive owned have had issues with burn in.
I've had oleds for both my past phones and ive never had burn in. how exactly are you burning in images on a phone
@@papasmurf205 I use many devices for sheet music, sometimes it has to be my phone.
That usually involves 2-6 hours of screen on time each day.
The small parts of the screen that remain black are clearly not burnt in, which makes the burn-in more noticable.
Burn in becomes noticable after ~2 months of this kind of abuse.
I want a qled or ips with 144hz refresh rate :(
@@jeffreydesormeaux3539 Ive been using the Samsung CHG70 for a while. Its a curved QHD QLED 144hz freesync panel with local backight dimming.
The price is the worst part about it ~$500
CRT HDTVs from the early 2000s were even better. They were just extremely large and heavy. I had a Panasonic 26" CRT HDTV and it is still the best picture quality I've ever seen. OLED is right up there, too.
Old tech try PLED it’s between.
Q90R Samsung has much improved Anti-Reflective Coating, it is very good. No one (I know) watches TV in a personal Cinema-Room. It is not really about nits, watching Batman in Gotham is mostly a dark picture. Dark screne "are not allowed" to "glow" in 2000knits, dark has to be dark and is reflecting when sth shines on it. So anti-reflection is the key. There is no OLED with a good anti-reflection! They say they got "outstanding reflection handling" but that's just blah blah. Yes maybe indirect light, but direct light like a spotlight you can always see it as a spotlight on the screen in dark scenes. QLED now, latest model it is much better.
MicroLED is the big boy for next years
it will take years before it's ready for consumers. but yeah it's the future. meanwhile i'll be using oled for perfect image quality.
I remmber 2008 went to mall, sony bravia lcdtv demo there i dont remmber specific model maybe x series, fantastic experienced very reliastic just like watching live football game and beach scene, after that year they compressed their tech
bro goodness of products has gone long ago. so i just hunt for cheap and vfm things
So to be simple OLED's are like PLASMA TVs which R more EXPENSIVE & may create BURN IN if your a HEAVY gamer and QLED's are a better VERSION of LCD TV'S which are SAFER and CHEAPER
One point that wasn't mentioned, new Samsung QLEDs also support Freesync to match fps on newer game consoles and PCs. OLEDs do not. On a variable fps device, such as a PC or game console, QLED is far superior in this regard.
One of the best videos which perfectly explains most common doubt while looking for smart TVs. Thanks a lot for making this video
That was an excellent review! Smart, sensible questions, and direct, easy to understand answers.
I have to know about Consumer Electronics for my part-time job, and TVs and Soundbars are the biggest sellers. This video was very helpful in my understanding of the major differences between the OLED and QLED.
Thank you for Sharing this!
SO WHAT TV TECH FOR MOVIES, NEWS AND SPORTS ??
@@stevethea5250 From what I remembered, QLED is best for everyday watching in giving you the most realistic and brightest picture. The OLED is best for movies, because of its deepest dark colors, as well as for some sporting events.
OLED is superior. Went into a Micro center for some pc parts but drifted over to TVs to check them out and the guy was trying to convince me QLED was the better technology until I pointed out the pure blacks and lack of light bleeding on OLED.
MLED is superior to OLED
Where can I buy one? Oh, I can't. Future tech is nice, but it's not in the stores, it's not an option.
Yeah, but in pure blacks the burn-in is very apparent.
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Burn-in isn't superior.
OLED absolutely blows my mind in comparison when I see them on display, but I do require a TV to last me 10 years or so.
you want a tv to last 10 years? you don't have money for purchase a new tv? you want all the tv manufacturers bankrupt like ? then if you use for 10 years then for then years company close the shop? how if you sell a underwear and your customers ask you that they want to wear the underwear for 10 years?
Technology marches on. OLED has improved and Burn in become rare. as of early 2020 LG has announced that it would stop its domestic LCD production in favor of OLED.
Summary: OLED TV - Screen Burn in, QLED TV - Eye Burn in
ced yuen is the star of this video, his explaination is very mature and balanced, informative too.
OLED is in his infancy. In 8-10 years you can buy an OLED. i want to use it also as a frame for photos and paintings, burn-ins are there a no go. you buy a tv for round about 10 years and burn-in danger is too big for me. OLED has a little bit better black, QLED has a better white. If you see comparisons, you'll find that OLEDs have too much color saturation. People love the strong colors. But QLED's colors are closer to real life. Ask yourself at every picture comparison: How would it look in real?
The reason that Samsung isn’t using oled’s in TV’s is because of patent issues. The tech is different between phones and TV’s.
Oled is better overall. Qled is better for bright rooms and gaming
Yeh but oled tvs have faster respons so they are the best tvs for gaming.
ghosting is the worst possible scenario for gaming so sorry no.
Papa Smurf There's no ghosting to be found on a QLED TV and they ARE better for gaming than OLED.
lmaooo
@@Aboveu nah
Read a report 65% of Americans don't even have $1,000. in savings; more important to have the latest, greatest, newest, whatever, and just buy it on whatever credit "floats your boat." How about a Made In America TV; at least then the money stays in America.
Thanks for the explanations, it helped me a lot!!
Thanks brother,
Very helpful information about #OLED & #QLED
QLED only has good blacks when the screen itself is entirely black, or large portions of it are black. For normal viewing, you will constantly notice that it has terrible "darks". That is, shadows and darker details will always have this milky gray glow that is notorious on the cheapest LCD panels.
QLED and OLED are entirely different leagues and are in no way competing for the same market. QLED is the high-end of the low-end TV market, nothing more.
@Jimbo Bimbo I watched the entire video. I'm not sure what gave you that impression.
great job on clarifying the difference between the two types of tv's!
OLED does have the better picture by far! QLED is nice and will probably last longer!
Great review. I enjoyed that as I'm now planning my Next Gen TV. Gaming and movies are critical. If any followers can offer advice...bring it on! I have Samsung phone and tablet, LG 300w sound system (thinking about an upgrade too), budget of £2,500. Cheers folks.
Ohhh this is why I can see stuff on my iphone when it’s off
Besides, iPhone dont use OLED displays exept for iPhone X+ et 11 ultra
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This is misleading. OLED is the superior picture. If image quality is the most important factor, OLED is the clear winner.
Well "superior picture" is subjective since QLED actually have better color and are capable of producing colors OLED can't so don't see how OLED can have superior picture if it can't even produce colors QLED can?
Do most people really only watch 2 hours and then turn it off? Really? Honest? C'mon, seriously? You're kidding? Burn-in sounds like a deal-killer to me.
Let's admit it guys. OLED is the best!
They just need to be more reliable and less expensive. But OLED displays are amazing!!!
"There is no better there is only different." Thank You! Oh and it's not just brightness from Qled it's actually an anti glare panel system that can diffuse light on the screen!
Not to mention OLED is sharper because the pixels light themselves, so there's no bleed, Some "TV Guy"
Qled is better because you don't get burn in
@@blacklyfe5543 QLED is also worse because the black levels are terrible.
@@blacklyfe5543 oled doesn’t get burn in as much anymore
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. I now understand it. A sincere thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge and posting.
Thanks for this video! It was really well explained. The only thing stopping me from going OLED is my hardcore gaming, and I'm not sure if I'm willing to accommodate moving my xbox every now and then just to watch a movie or having to take extra steps to ensure no burn in happens. The fact that they don't even offer Burn in protection for the first year truly makes me not want to attempt it. It's so hard to decide as I love movies & gaming.
its not an issue if you do screen refresh, but oleds arent really for gaming. your spending money on features like upscaling/processing,
which is usually counterproductive for gaming (as it adds lag).
i would look at the new 900/950 series from sony, as they added VRR and a couple of other stuff,
and you can set a custom profile for the console input, turning off any picture enhancing and lag will be same as other brands.
LG C1 range also does this. It's designed for gamers with new gen consoles, boasting 1ms input lag OLED display designed for gaming and HDMI 2.1 allowing 4k 120hz
Thank you! Finally someone who clearly discusses pros and cons of both technologies! I've heard of the burn-in problem a lot. That's pretty much the main thing preventing me from buying one. Spend $1800 or more, and 3 months later you have an image burned in, and don't have any warranty against that. Especially now, during the lockdown, when my family is watching many hours non-stop of TV...it's too risky to spend that much on a TV that might have burn in. Plus, our living room is fairly bright, and depending on the time of day we get direct sunlight coming in through the windows, so it's bright even w/ the shades closed! So QLED is the way to go for us...
Yeah but it's really just a matter of common sense maintenance and being aware of what you're doing with the tv. For example, I'm playing Elden Ring on ps5 on my new OLED. Instead of just leaving it on screen, I change it to live tv to keep the picture fresh while I'm currently in the bathroom watching videos and typing this handy message. It's similar to plasmas when they came out. So just don't leave anything stagnant on the screen. Also, I'm really happy with the TV. It's an LG C2 77" and it's fantastic. When there's a light or "spell" cast in game, it really, really pops. And the black is pitch. Anyways, there's my two cents.
I have played games for decades... I went from LCD to OLED about when this video went live. I bought the newest LG OLED. I have been dealing with Burn-in for about the last year. At first I noticed the burn-in was happening from playing 1 specific game. But soon after I noticed it, I was seeing other games burning in. It's as if the pixels are all starting to give up... not just the ones being abused, but everywhere on the panel.
Sadly... I spent $2000+ on this TV, and for the first few months, it was absolutely the best decision I made. I was angry with Samsung at the time, so QLED was out. Now, everything I read about QLED TVs, is that they experience ZERO burn-in from gamers. Next up is an 8K QLED... when I can afford to spend that much money on a TV again. I can't ever recoup any money with this OLED, because its basically ruined.
best of the best video I ever seen with so good details. Thank you for making so much informative video. thanks again.
Me, planning my surface basement: I thought I was going broke on the floor now I'm going broke for an OLED tv that nobody will even notice
Only Panasonic OLED! ... btw my 10ys old Panasonic Plasma has a better picture than a trashy Samsung qled
OLED.
Next question.
thanks for this clear explanation between Qled and Oled technology
After this review I became a lot wiser