Since everyone is asking the same question in the comments, in the last turn I could NOT have played a Year of Plenty (+2) to get a city. I already played a knight that turn and you can only play 1 development card per turn.
God I loved watching Blue's chat throughout the game. Trying so hard to convince the others that you're going to win while you're in voice chat telling everyone else that he's the bad guy lmao
@@hjelsethak To be fair though, the win was pretty far-fetched in the opening 30 turns, a big part of the win was due to the other 3 making big mistakes that to a point, levelled the playing field for blue to then look 'correct' with his early prediction.. He is correct, but it was a lucky call by him in my opinion.
Great energy. Seeing the starting positions, you clearly had the winning position from the get go. If people don't realize this and you'll table talk over them, it's a win. The solution is: don't be susceptible to table talk. If I would hear someone table talking the one player first, and then another the next few turns, you know that they are up to something and they are prepared to do anything to win. On another note, blue was kinda hopeless from the beginning having no ore and wheat. Since everyone was convinced after 5 was rolled so much and he built lots of roads and you clearly had success table talking him, he was out. Red relied on meagre numbers. Orange was in somewhat the same position as you but had the worse starting position and that cutoff in the beginning really hurt him.
So I was Orange in the game. Achilles. Few thoughts: 1. I saw the map and immediately understood that it was a win for the guy going first. Although, you played well, no denying that. 2. I agree that my mistake was to not pay attention in the start to what resources you have exactly. I had just hoped that you didn't have exactly the perfect 6 cards required. But you had. Also, I don't know if I completely agree with your strategy initially to hold on to the road until you get the perfect 6 cards. Seems risky. If someone rolls a 7 and steals brick. Also, it was obvious that I was going for the wheat port asap. So you wouldn't be fooling me by not using the road. 3. My internet got cut off for roughly 5 or more minutes. And it seemed like the game completely turned on its head by the time I came back. The bot made a useless road and citied up on the wrong settlement. It was actually the most critical moment in the game for me, lol. I really don't want to sound salty. You definitely played a great game. And your analysis was spot on.
Hello! Glad to see you here in the comments. I thought you played very well. Here's my response though. 1. I agree 1st position was in a strong spot, but I quickly fell behind in the beginning. I was not robbed a lot in the midgame, especially by you (orange) and red. This lead to me accelerating a lot and being able to eventually take largest army. If it was truly a recognized easy win for 1st position, then I think I would've and should've been robbed a lot more. 2. I used to always also play my roads immediately but now I don't. Somone rolling a 7, choosing to steal from me, AND stealing the brick when I'm at 5 cards (20%) is very conditional. Holding the road not only conceals my intentions but gives me information (where everyone is going) and options (Potential road building/YoP). I held the road not necessarily just to cut you off, but to evaluate the situation first. In high level play, it's rare to see someone commit a road towards a race. Most people hold and wait for the 6 card play (road settlement) and do it in a single turn. 3. I agree it was really sad to see the AI take over for you and make the wrong decisions. I wish that didn't happen. However, I'd like to point out that upgrading the 5/9/10 over the 8/3 had no effect on the game since you got the city immediately afterward. No 8 or 3's hit in the rotation where you were gone. In fact, you even got an extra card from upgrading 5/9/10 first because the 9 wheat hit. With that being said, losing out on the road and not being able to choose to play the knight was unfortunate. Good Game! See you at the next tournament!
@@DyLightedCatan Good points. And I can see why you felt like holding the road (the 20% chance thing partially convinced me). However, let me explain why I decided to build a road there. It was not completely a mistake from my POV, even if I had kept track of cards. When you had 5 cards, you were robbed once. And you lost the wheat. Then, no more resources for you until you robbed blue and got a brick. Then, when I rolled a 9, you got a wheat. Now, you have the perfect 6. But would I know this if I had kept perfect track of your cards? All I know from my side is that you were robbed once and you robbed once. When you were robbed, if they had taken anything other than a wheat, then you wouldn't have the perfect 6. More so, you robbed exactly a brick. Blue had 3 wood and 4 brick at that time. So, for you to have the perfect 6 at that point, the probability was (1/5)*(4/7), which is roughly 11% chance. Now, I have 8 cards in hand. Also, I am betting everything on the wheat port. Should I not build my road when there's just a 11% chance that you have the perfect 6? If it means that I just lose a road in the process, that's absolutely fine. I think it was the right choice by me. However, I agree that I hadn't paid complete attention to the cards you had, which is always a mistake. But, having played the game enough, I've developed an intuition for these kind of things. My thought process would have been as follows. "He got robbed and he robbed blue. Maybe he might have double roads but not the perfect 6. So, let me make sure he doesn't build double roads. And maybe building a road might scare him off to build roads elsewhere." All I'm trying to do is to defend my decision to build the road. Good game :)
@@jesscool1991 Really well-done explanation. I didn't think about you not being able to see what cards were stolen. It makes a lot more sense why you built the road. With that being said, you only have 5 cards! I held a road and I'm on high wheat too. It's very dangerous to commit a road in this situation. It's also not super likely to 7 out in your situation. You don't have to worry about getting robbed either since I'm in a much better spot than you are - shouldn't be getting targeted this early. I personally would hold the road especially if I know the other person next to me held their road too.
@@DyLightedCatan I completely agree. I should have taken the brick from the bank and then waited. There still is the chance of you blocking me with a double road. However, that is not likely. Thank you for appreciating the explanation. I like to analyse everything to the deepest level, haha.
just letting you know that my friends and I have jumped into online catan during the quarantine, and your vids are awesome for me to learn how to lay the smack down on them. thanks!
Settlers of Catan is our go-to family game for game nights, so it's really fun watching a more competitive take on the game after having played it casually for over a decade! Great video!
Hello, stumbled onto your channel and I love Catan it's one of my favorite board games. I love the way you comment on the game and the way you analyze the board. I look forward to watching all the things you do.
This actually isn't right. Blue didn't block red because red had 2 unplayed development cards and would be even more incentivized at that point to play a knight and steal brick from him (which he did anyway, after all)
@@DyLightedCatan Yo man, I got a really soft club if you wanna test it out. Definitely start at the microstakes, no shame in that - plus that's where the worst players are! Idk if this type of advertising is allowed though so ban me at your will - but just visit heroes.poker and check it out man. Full disclosure, this is an affiliate-based platform so there is benefit in me getting people signed up ok? You seem like a guy who would appreciate full-transparency so just thought I'd be upfront. =)
DylLighted - Catan Hey would you be interested in making a video called teaching a noob how to play Catan 😂 I’m legit interested after watching your video
3:43 I would put the road upwards because you can cut off blue and you have the opportunity to get the 5 brick. Then you have good numbers for all the 5 resources
@21:00 I would argue its better to do a 4/1 trade with sheep, to get rid of more cards, and save the wheat for a flexible and safer trade option later. You stay safer against 7s this way
"i personally find the concept of using creative trades or creative techniques to get yourself trades" :- DyLighted after putting a gun against yellow's head and mugging him for wheat
To be fair to Orange at 7:14 tracking your cards would have only made your play here a possiblity not a sure thing because you got the second brick from the steal on blue and lost 1 card on the steal from red.
Really strong point! The cards were shuffled because of the 7. However, orange should've been aware I held my road and predicted that I had intentions to get on the spot. Then he could probe at what people have to see how close I am to the settlement. Regardless, good point!
Orange here. I commented earlier about my thoughts at this spot. And yes, I was aware that you held your road, but as I said, I did not know that you had the perfect 6 cards required.
I think Blue should've started on the 6-5-12 instead of the 6-5-11... It seems like a small thing, but they didn't really need 7 points of sheep, and starting with a wheat in hand for an expansion settlement and needing one less road to get to the 9-12 could really accelerate their game... Getting quick wheat access and a 3-1 port would be really useful... After that I don't think the brick port is even that necessary... Their wood-brick ratio is pretty close to 1-1, so you don't really want to trade in too much brick that can be paired with the wood anyways... Instead maybe focus on upgrading or expanding towards the middle, to eventually connect... Could've taken the 10-3-11 from you, instead of 2-3 roads to get to the brick port... The 10-3-11 is both 3-1 port fuel to city up, and an intermediary for connecting; not to mention it hurts your game... Not to make this episode all about Blue, just some subtle mistakes I think they made... You still played really well (aside from forgetting your knight 2 straight turns)... We'll blame the new site for that... But yeah well played by you, and good commitment to largest army, still going for knights even when Red got to 5 and you only had 1 played... I suppose you need at least 2 VPs at that point even if you don't end up with army, so you might as well start fishing for at least 1 more, but instead of just that you were committed to get to 6 knights before they played even 1 more, so kudos there... You don't back down from a knight battle easily...
hoi DyILighted just want to say thx for the lessons, i'm fairly new to the game and loving it. like you said its not just lucky on dice, its mutch more. that is so true but i have memory problems so i never wil be that good at it, but with your help and tips i even won a few strong game's. so thx and hope to learn som more, greetings from hopper
Hello! Really glad to see you making progress! I don't have that good memory either, but playing more games makes it a lot easier to remember things as your pattern recognition skills increase.
Should have started with the second settlement at the 8-Brick/3-Wood. Same pips, better road building, which only you and blue would have. Could have used the Ore port too.
Ahhh I haven't posted it actually! I thought it wasn't an interesting game so I decided not to post it. However, I did win the finals. I may post it in the future!
@@DyLightedCatan congrats my dood, I love the content you have here. I'm a casual player and i bought the game for my cousin and his kids this past weekend. lol after two days they were excited to buy expansions, but you've shown me the game is deep, deeper than it looks and plays. I went back to see my cousins today and played a Ore Wheat combo for the first time, they thought i was crazy, i thought i was too, but man, they got wrecked. it was nerve racking not being able to build roads and settlements for a while. I told them to hold off the expansions. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos. loved the podcast you did. and i will definitely leave more comments. though im not as advance, but we'll learn together. Thanks for the content, I know its a lot of work. keep it up!!
@@DyLightedCatan I'd still be interested. New to the channel, and have literally never played Catan, but I find it interesting to watch. Kinda want to try playing it now too.
Great question. 1. Practice! This is probably the best way to get better. 2. Use logic to figure out people’s cards instead of brute force memorizing. You’ll see me do this in a few videos. Good luck! :)
I used to try and do that, but it takes too long and you can’t apply it in live tournaments. I think just naturally being able to track is more important.
I am confused why orange is cut off from the wheat port at the bottom. Does he not have a road touching the port? Or do you need to have a settlement at the port?
Did you give any thought to double road to block wheat port? You are low on brick so I understand why not, but just curious. Also since your video been hoping to catch you in a catan universe game.
I didn't as that is very costly and to get my last brick I would have to reveal my intentions of getting on the wheat port ad everyone wouldn't trade me because of that.
Catan without any expansion packs feels forced but with bigger map&barbarians etc there is a lot of stuff to do so you cant beat every1 by just counting cards. I mean you can. Edit. Meant that then its harder to predict every1s moves
yea official ruleset states that you can keep your VPs hidden and only have to reveal them when your total points from all sources tally up to a win (10 points in classic Catan), and when you reveal them you can reveal them all at once.
I think he didn't want it as other cards (like the +2 roads or the Monopol) would be much better in the early game and the vp is like a "dead" card till the end of game. But I'm not sure about that and I'm neither a professional player nor have played the game often. (I'm no native speaker so I'm sorry if my english isn't the best)
Viel Glück You are completely correct. In the early game vp cards are usually the worst card you can get because it’s useless until you get to 9 vp. A knight or a different ability card is much better because you can use it to start your momentum for the rest of the game.
I don't like catan. I'm not playing this game at all. Still I saw your video on my recommended list and started watching and can't stop. Your commentary makes this stupid game fun to watch ;).
Is voice chat needed for this? Love catan been playing for a couple years with my roommates but everyone moved out so I have no one to play with. I’d love to start playing but would not being in voice chat be a big disadvantage?? Thanks for any answers!
Wow thanks for the reply! Loving your channel:) been playing catan for awhile but I keep finding myself learning new tips from you! Can’t wait to finally test some of my skills on others then just friends and family haha! Keep up the great work man!
31:08 you don’t need any extra resources here to win, you play the year of plenty and get 1 wheat 1 ore build a city and win with 2 vp dev cards right?
Does all the table talking ever backfire on you? Personally if I was playing a game and pulling some of the moves you were with blocking blue and bullying trades, I'd make sure to never do anything with you
Not OP, but I used to play Settlers in a competitive setting. Table talk, even aggressive table talk, for the first half of the game is very normal. Everyone points out all the different ways everyone else is going to win. Some people try to make friends, point out enemies, or just downplay their own position. It's expected. The last fourth of a game is usually played in complete silence. Trading all but stops. Everyone is aware that you are either positioned to win or positioned to Kingmake. Most players at high level won't Kingmake on purpose. The mood goes from joking and joyous to somber very quickly. When I was at the North American Finals the trophies given out were wolves in sheep's clothing -- very fitting for how Settlers is played.
From my experience, the more casual the game is, the less table talk is tolerated. In a casual game with your family all this point making might be annoying, but in a full competitive environment good players actually listen to these points because others might be on to something they didn't notice or think of. Still, I think you can cross a line and annoy the others even in this kind of game. But as a rule of thumb, people who get too annoyed by table talk are the ones who just want to enjoy the game in peace, not trying too hard to win. From my experience, knowing how far you can go with table talking according to the environment is a skill on it's own.
this was explained in the response to another comment but he already played a knight at the beginning of that turn and you can only play 1 dev card per turn
Heh from the title I thought you might be exposing the sleazy underbelly of online Catan druglords. So I'm glad it wasn't that. But all this table talk is like herding cats, no?
You did a very good self-critical assessment of your game - but listening to all your good reasoning, I don't understand how you could make so many mistakes during the actual game...
DylLighted - Catan well I’ll be looking forward to it! While I have you, just wanted to say, your Chanel really blew up my passion for catan. I binged most of your vids in the last few months and I have become unbeatable amongst my friends utilizing all strategies and play styles that you’ve introduced me to. So thanks for the lessons!
Since everyone is asking the same question in the comments, in the last turn I could NOT have played a Year of Plenty (+2) to get a city. I already played a knight that turn and you can only play 1 development card per turn.
@Cuong Do Great thought! I think that would've been a lot safer. Thanks for the comment!
Wow had no idea of that rule
@Cuong Do Red maybe could play another knight securing biggest army. Perhaps he had one he forgot to play.
It is 8:30am. I have not slept. I have never played this game before. TH-cam, you did it again.
I've no idea what's going on
hahaha literally the same dude xD
4.24 am here. never played this game before. what am i doing?
9:16am here. Sleep schedule destroyed.
Hahaha! Well I'm glad these videos are binge-worthy!
God I loved watching Blue's chat throughout the game. Trying so hard to convince the others that you're going to win while you're in voice chat telling everyone else that he's the bad guy lmao
Hahaha! I felt bad for blue!
Politics.
The only man who couldn't speak saw the danger.
@@hjelsethak To be fair though, the win was pretty far-fetched in the opening 30 turns, a big part of the win was due to the other 3 making big mistakes that to a point, levelled the playing field for blue to then look 'correct' with his early prediction.. He is correct, but it was a lucky call by him in my opinion.
Had no idea how this game worked but the high energy commentary got me into it.
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@@TheKopakah ????
I wish i knew how to play this game but the commentary made me watch it
Kobe Johnson Yay! Glad you still watched it!
Great energy. Seeing the starting positions, you clearly had the winning position from the get go. If people don't realize this and you'll table talk over them, it's a win. The solution is: don't be susceptible to table talk. If I would hear someone table talking the one player first, and then another the next few turns, you know that they are up to something and they are prepared to do anything to win. On another note, blue was kinda hopeless from the beginning having no ore and wheat. Since everyone was convinced after 5 was rolled so much and he built lots of roads and you clearly had success table talking him, he was out. Red relied on meagre numbers. Orange was in somewhat the same position as you but had the worse starting position and that cutoff in the beginning really hurt him.
Well said! Thanks for the analysis!
So I was Orange in the game. Achilles. Few thoughts:
1. I saw the map and immediately understood that it was a win for the guy going first. Although, you played well, no denying that.
2. I agree that my mistake was to not pay attention in the start to what resources you have exactly. I had just hoped that you didn't have exactly the perfect 6 cards required. But you had. Also, I don't know if I completely agree with your strategy initially to hold on to the road until you get the perfect 6 cards. Seems risky. If someone rolls a 7 and steals brick. Also, it was obvious that I was going for the wheat port asap. So you wouldn't be fooling me by not using the road.
3. My internet got cut off for roughly 5 or more minutes. And it seemed like the game completely turned on its head by the time I came back. The bot made a useless road and citied up on the wrong settlement. It was actually the most critical moment in the game for me, lol.
I really don't want to sound salty. You definitely played a great game. And your analysis was spot on.
Hello! Glad to see you here in the comments. I thought you played very well. Here's my response though.
1. I agree 1st position was in a strong spot, but I quickly fell behind in the beginning. I was not robbed a lot in the midgame, especially by you (orange) and red. This lead to me accelerating a lot and being able to eventually take largest army. If it was truly a recognized easy win for 1st position, then I think I would've and should've been robbed a lot more.
2. I used to always also play my roads immediately but now I don't. Somone rolling a 7, choosing to steal from me, AND stealing the brick when I'm at 5 cards (20%) is very conditional. Holding the road not only conceals my intentions but gives me information (where everyone is going) and options (Potential road building/YoP). I held the road not necessarily just to cut you off, but to evaluate the situation first. In high level play, it's rare to see someone commit a road towards a race. Most people hold and wait for the 6 card play (road settlement) and do it in a single turn.
3. I agree it was really sad to see the AI take over for you and make the wrong decisions. I wish that didn't happen. However, I'd like to point out that upgrading the 5/9/10 over the 8/3 had no effect on the game since you got the city immediately afterward. No 8 or 3's hit in the rotation where you were gone. In fact, you even got an extra card from upgrading 5/9/10 first because the 9 wheat hit. With that being said, losing out on the road and not being able to choose to play the knight was unfortunate.
Good Game! See you at the next tournament!
@@DyLightedCatan Good points. And I can see why you felt like holding the road (the 20% chance thing partially convinced me). However, let me explain why I decided to build a road there.
It was not completely a mistake from my POV, even if I had kept track of cards. When you had 5 cards, you were robbed once. And you lost the wheat. Then, no more resources for you until you robbed blue and got a brick. Then, when I rolled a 9, you got a wheat. Now, you have the perfect 6. But would I know this if I had kept perfect track of your cards? All I know from my side is that you were robbed once and you robbed once. When you were robbed, if they had taken anything other than a wheat, then you wouldn't have the perfect 6. More so, you robbed exactly a brick. Blue had 3 wood and 4 brick at that time. So, for you to have the perfect 6 at that point, the probability was (1/5)*(4/7), which is roughly 11% chance.
Now, I have 8 cards in hand. Also, I am betting everything on the wheat port. Should I not build my road when there's just a 11% chance that you have the perfect 6? If it means that I just lose a road in the process, that's absolutely fine. I think it was the right choice by me. However, I agree that I hadn't paid complete attention to the cards you had, which is always a mistake. But, having played the game enough, I've developed an intuition for these kind of things. My thought process would have been as follows. "He got robbed and he robbed blue. Maybe he might have double roads but not the perfect 6. So, let me make sure he doesn't build double roads. And maybe building a road might scare him off to build roads elsewhere."
All I'm trying to do is to defend my decision to build the road. Good game :)
I love this game, and how it's all about probabilities and words "maybe."
@@jesscool1991 Really well-done explanation. I didn't think about you not being able to see what cards were stolen. It makes a lot more sense why you built the road. With that being said, you only have 5 cards! I held a road and I'm on high wheat too. It's very dangerous to commit a road in this situation. It's also not super likely to 7 out in your situation. You don't have to worry about getting robbed either since I'm in a much better spot than you are - shouldn't be getting targeted this early. I personally would hold the road especially if I know the other person next to me held their road too.
@@DyLightedCatan I completely agree. I should have taken the brick from the bank and then waited. There still is the chance of you blocking me with a double road. However, that is not likely. Thank you for appreciating the explanation. I like to analyse everything to the deepest level, haha.
just letting you know that my friends and I have jumped into online catan during the quarantine, and your vids are awesome for me to learn how to lay the smack down on them. thanks!
I have no idea what's going on, but I like the way you commentary. subbed
Thanks!
Settlers of Catan is our go-to family game for game nights, so it's really fun watching a more competitive take on the game after having played it casually for over a decade!
Great video!
Some Moves, were we all can learn some things 😉
Nice editing, I think thats a good video length for 1 game 👍
Thank you! I always appreciate your comments ❤️
Hello, stumbled onto your channel and I love Catan it's one of my favorite board games. I love the way you comment on the game and the way you analyze the board. I look forward to watching all the things you do.
I think this is my favorite video to show newer friends. It is a nice underdog story and touches on so many ideas you go deeper into in other vids.
14:15 He didn't block red because red made a "bad" trade to him. It was an ally thing not necessarily a bad play
This actually isn't right. Blue didn't block red because red had 2 unplayed development cards and would be even more incentivized at that point to play a knight and steal brick from him (which he did anyway, after all)
all hail the algorithm. how the hell did i land here. that said, nice vid
thank you for your videos, i learn a lot
Jacob González Cejudo Thank you! That’s why I make videos :)
I've been waiting! Fantastic gameplay + explanations
Thank you thank you! I appreciate the nice comment!
You are strategic enough to play poker for a living, but I'd never wish that upon anyone else...
Andrew Province I’m actually learning poker now. Still a fish though. I started about a month ago.
@@DyLightedCatan Yo man, I got a really soft club if you wanna test it out.
Definitely start at the microstakes, no shame in that - plus that's where the worst players are!
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Full disclosure, this is an affiliate-based platform so there is benefit in me getting people signed up ok? You seem like a guy who would appreciate full-transparency so just thought I'd be upfront.
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Never has catan been so exciting 😂
I’m so glad I could make it exciting! There’s obviously increased stakes in tournament play!
DylLighted - Catan Hey would you be interested in making a video called teaching a noob how to play Catan 😂 I’m legit interested after watching your video
You’ve inspired me. I’ll make a coaching video in a bit.
3:43 I would put the road upwards because you can cut off blue and you have the opportunity to get the 5 brick. Then you have good numbers for all the 5 resources
Isn't he at 9 points at 32:19 with a year of plenty and 3 ore? Why is he talking about next roll??
can only play one dev card a turn and he already played a knight
been really enjoying your videos thank you
'Table talk' is all I do during Catan
@21:00 I would argue its better to do a 4/1 trade with sheep, to get rid of more cards, and save the wheat for a flexible and safer trade option later. You stay safer against 7s this way
"i personally find the concept of using creative trades or creative techniques to get yourself trades" :- DyLighted after putting a gun against yellow's head and mugging him for wheat
I have no clue what's happening, but I want.
I really like the look of the board like that
5:51 could consider building 2 roads around the 10 sheep to guarantee the wheat port
I feel like you are so good at tabletalking, you almost convince yourself that you are not a threat until you win the game at the end LOL
i find the visuals from the 1999 catan pc game alot more appealing
HappyD returns!
Hahaha you gave me the idea! Thanks!
I’m honored :)
you do a great job with these videos
Thank you William!
Had no idea this game was competitive, I'm impressed
Thanks! I'm glad I could impress you!
To be fair to Orange at 7:14 tracking your cards would have only made your play here a possiblity not a sure thing because you got the second brick from the steal on blue and lost 1 card on the steal from red.
Really strong point! The cards were shuffled because of the 7. However, orange should've been aware I held my road and predicted that I had intentions to get on the spot. Then he could probe at what people have to see how close I am to the settlement. Regardless, good point!
Orange here. I commented earlier about my thoughts at this spot. And yes, I was aware that you held your road, but as I said, I did not know that you had the perfect 6 cards required.
I think Blue should've started on the 6-5-12 instead of the 6-5-11... It seems like a small thing, but they didn't really need 7 points of sheep, and starting with a wheat in hand for an expansion settlement and needing one less road to get to the 9-12 could really accelerate their game... Getting quick wheat access and a 3-1 port would be really useful... After that I don't think the brick port is even that necessary... Their wood-brick ratio is pretty close to 1-1, so you don't really want to trade in too much brick that can be paired with the wood anyways... Instead maybe focus on upgrading or expanding towards the middle, to eventually connect... Could've taken the 10-3-11 from you, instead of 2-3 roads to get to the brick port... The 10-3-11 is both 3-1 port fuel to city up, and an intermediary for connecting; not to mention it hurts your game... Not to make this episode all about Blue, just some subtle mistakes I think they made... You still played really well (aside from forgetting your knight 2 straight turns)... We'll blame the new site for that... But yeah well played by you, and good commitment to largest army, still going for knights even when Red got to 5 and you only had 1 played... I suppose you need at least 2 VPs at that point even if you don't end up with army, so you might as well start fishing for at least 1 more, but instead of just that you were committed to get to 6 knights before they played even 1 more, so kudos there... You don't back down from a knight battle easily...
Great analysis! I totally agree with you that the 6-5-12 is a lot better than the 6-5-11. I wish I mentioned that on the video.
Did you post the final game of the tournament? Could not find it :-/ Also is the $500 series still ongoing?
13:45 You ought to have traded wheat for brick at every chance, to cut off blue and get wood 10
hoi DyILighted just want to say thx for the lessons, i'm fairly new to the game and loving it. like you said its not just lucky on dice, its mutch more. that is so true but i have memory problems so i never wil be that good at it, but with your help and tips i even won a few strong game's. so thx and hope to learn som more, greetings from hopper
Hello! Really glad to see you making progress! I don't have that good memory either, but playing more games makes it a lot easier to remember things as your pattern recognition skills increase.
now i don't know how i got here, and i don't know what this game is, but i'm still watching
Should have started with the second settlement at the 8-Brick/3-Wood. Same pips, better road building, which only you and blue would have. Could have used the Ore port too.
i like your optimism and ability to learn from mistakes and analyze the game oppose to getting frustrated. where is the finals video??
Ahhh I haven't posted it actually! I thought it wasn't an interesting game so I decided not to post it. However, I did win the finals. I may post it in the future!
@@DyLightedCatan congrats my dood, I love the content you have here. I'm a casual player and i bought the game for my cousin and his kids this past weekend. lol after two days they were excited to buy expansions, but you've shown me the game is deep, deeper than it looks and plays. I went back to see my cousins today and played a Ore Wheat combo for the first time, they thought i was crazy, i thought i was too, but man, they got wrecked. it was nerve racking not being able to build roads and settlements for a while. I told them to hold off the expansions. I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos. loved the podcast you did. and i will definitely leave more comments. though im not as advance, but we'll learn together. Thanks for the content, I know its a lot of work. keep it up!!
@@sthao7167 Thanks for all the kind words! I look forward to seeing you there!
@14:15 Blue is trying to keep an ally with resources to defend their 2 spots they have in common (boths 6s)
Awesome!
Any chance we see you playing cities and knights? I like that expansion.
Good question! Probably not for a while. I mostly focus on the base game.
@@DyLightedCatan ofc u r afraid of the depth of "städte und zwitter" wont let u win so easily
I haven't search or play about Catan in years. But thanks algorithm LUL
Did you ever post the finals game for this tournament?
I did not, however, I won the finals. I just didn't think it was an interesting game.
@Dunn123 Does that mean you think I should've posted the finals? I'm considering it, but it's super late now.
@@DyLightedCatan I'd still be interested. New to the channel, and have literally never played Catan, but I find it interesting to watch. Kinda want to try playing it now too.
For completeness and fun, heck yeah!
@@michaelclarkj Hahaha alright I'll put it on the list of things to edit.
Pretty amazing. Do you have any tricks for tracking people's cards? My memory is awful!
Great question.
1. Practice! This is probably the best way to get better.
2. Use logic to figure out people’s cards instead of brute force memorizing. You’ll see me do this in a few videos.
Good luck! :)
You could write them down-use a shorthand, like one letter for each card: B W H S O and then cross them out as people play and discard
I used to try and do that, but it takes too long and you can’t apply it in live tournaments. I think just naturally being able to track is more important.
I kept hearing "wee port".
I am confused why orange is cut off from the wheat port at the bottom. Does he not have a road touching the port? Or do you need to have a settlement at the port?
All the mind games!! Holy shit!!!
What you do with tracking cards would be bad juju in blackjack.
Your table talk is pretty sadistic haha
Did you give any thought to double road to block wheat port? You are low on brick so I understand why not, but just curious. Also since your video been hoping to catch you in a catan universe game.
I didn't as that is very costly and to get my last brick I would have to reveal my intentions of getting on the wheat port ad everyone wouldn't trade me because of that.
i have no idea what the hell is happening but i enjoyed it
Hi DyLighted, great videos as always. Why did you switch to minimalist Catan?
It’s a website called “Colonist.io” and that’s where the tournament is being held. Check it out!
@@DyLightedCatan is this website for free?
Yes!
At the end of the game why couldn’t he just use the year of plenty to get the wheat for his city and win the game?
He already played a knight and you can't play more than one development card in one turn
@@mikew1176 Yep! That's right!
DylLighted - Catan Didn’t know that, thanks.
What’s the +2 development card you have? I thought it was a +2 cards whatever you want, isn’t that? Or maybe that’s a +2 roads?
It’s a year of plenty. Take any 2 cards you want.
DylLighted - Catan you could’ve just bought a city on the last turn right? Would’ve been a for sure win
@@owen2807No. You can only play development card per turn. I played the knight the last turn.
Learned a lot
Catan without any expansion packs feels forced but with bigger map&barbarians etc there is a lot of stuff to do so you cant beat every1 by just counting cards. I mean you can.
Edit. Meant that then its harder to predict every1s moves
I have 0 idea what the f is going on...
Hahaha it's from a board game called Settlers of Catan. I'm glad you still watched it though!
In the version I play you have to play your vic points and can only play one per turn. Am I playing wrong then?
yea official ruleset states that you can keep your VPs hidden and only have to reveal them when your total points from all sources tally up to a win (10 points in classic Catan), and when you reveal them you can reveal them all at once.
Nhan Nguyen Huu damn, don’t know who was feeding me the wrong rules. Thanks a lot Nhan :)
@@AyEsGee no worries glad I could help :)
Where is the video on the Finals Game?
8:30 why exactly is the vp "sort of bad"?
I think he didn't want it as other cards (like the +2 roads or the Monopol) would be much better in the early game and the vp is like a "dead" card till the end of game.
But I'm not sure about that and I'm neither a professional player nor have played the game often.
(I'm no native speaker so I'm sorry if my english isn't the best)
Viel Glück You are completely correct. In the early game vp cards are usually the worst card you can get because it’s useless until you get to 9 vp. A knight or a different ability card is much better because you can use it to start your momentum for the rest of the game.
Joaquim Reeves Yep! You’re right.
I see, thanks guys!
Does anybody knows if there is a video for the finals?
I don't like catan. I'm not playing this game at all. Still I saw your video on my recommended list and started watching and can't stop. Your commentary makes this stupid game fun to watch ;).
Where is the finals video though? Or am I just blind?
you had a year of plenty to build the city in the last ..... xD
instead of gambling on the victory point in the last move shouldn't you use year of plenty for 1 wheat and then win off of a city build?
No. You can only play 1 dev card per turn. I already played a knight that turn.
Is voice chat needed for this? Love catan been playing for a couple years with my roommates but everyone moved out so I have no one to play with. I’d love to start playing but would not being in voice chat be a big disadvantage?? Thanks for any answers!
Not on this site, but you can always set up a phone call or use a voice calling app like discord.
Wow thanks for the reply! Loving your channel:) been playing catan for awhile but I keep finding myself learning new tips from you! Can’t wait to finally test some of my skills on others then just friends and family haha!
Keep up the great work man!
14 knights? I once lost a game by 1 VP by pulling 11 knights and no VPs
regretting why he left orange in. havent seen the end yet
Travis Westcott Just an accidental disconnect. He comes back!
Honestly at some point these guys should have told you "to STFU or I'm going to sabotage my own game to ensure blue wins".
31:08 you don’t need any extra resources here to win, you play the year of plenty and get 1 wheat 1 ore build a city and win with 2 vp dev cards right?
Nice game! Anyone could have won.
John Smith I agree! The heavy amount of 7’s dictated a large part of the game.
Yeap. The outcome could be different if Red had gotten one more knight card, or Yellow had not disconnected for a moment.
His turn @32 minutes... He had a year of plenty that could secure a final city. Why was he sweating a trade or card pull? Am I missing something?
You can only play 1 dev card per turn. I played a knight.
Strange.
As I know from the rules in the original game, you can not build a settlement if there is already someone’s road
Does all the table talking ever backfire on you? Personally if I was playing a game and pulling some of the moves you were with blocking blue and bullying trades, I'd make sure to never do anything with you
Not OP, but I used to play Settlers in a competitive setting. Table talk, even aggressive table talk, for the first half of the game is very normal. Everyone points out all the different ways everyone else is going to win. Some people try to make friends, point out enemies, or just downplay their own position. It's expected. The last fourth of a game is usually played in complete silence. Trading all but stops. Everyone is aware that you are either positioned to win or positioned to Kingmake. Most players at high level won't Kingmake on purpose. The mood goes from joking and joyous to somber very quickly. When I was at the North American Finals the trophies given out were wolves in sheep's clothing -- very fitting for how Settlers is played.
From my experience, the more casual the game is, the less table talk is tolerated. In a casual game with your family all this point making might be annoying, but in a full competitive environment good players actually listen to these points because others might be on to something they didn't notice or think of. Still, I think you can cross a line and annoy the others even in this kind of game.
But as a rule of thumb, people who get too annoyed by table talk are the ones who just want to enjoy the game in peace, not trying too hard to win.
From my experience, knowing how far you can go with table talking according to the environment is a skill on it's own.
couldn't you just build a city on that last play to guarantee victory? or were you going for style points doing dev card victory?
good video btw, i liked the table-talk strategies
Is the finals available?
I'll post it soon! A lot of thing I need to edit.
Does anyone have the link to the finals?
Your table talk would tilt the shit out of me.
Where is he playing?
why do you go again after rolling a 7?
You don’t. When I roll the 7, you get to move the robber. Sometimes you can play a knight before you roll, then roll a 7 to move the robber again.
@@DyLightedCatan gotcha! Thanks for responding! Love your content
Ok, I was lost on Hello
Why buy the development card instead of just year of plenty to get the city and win?
this was explained in the response to another comment but he already played a knight at the beginning of that turn and you can only play 1 dev card per turn
what was the +2 dev card he had at then end gave him the resource to build a city at the end??!
what's the question? it's the development card that lets you pick two resources, like you said. a standard catan development card.
It's the "Year of Plenty" card:
catan.fandom.com/wiki/Development_card
twenty øne piløts I see. +Sub
Ayyyy! They are a favorite! Glad it was recognized!
you sound like the ben shapiro of catan
I guess that's a good thing? Thanks!
Why did TH-cam recomended me this
Heh from the title I thought you might be exposing the sleazy underbelly of online Catan druglords. So I'm glad it wasn't that. But all this table talk is like herding cats, no?
Why wouldn’t it have been better to block orange from the 8-3? They turned out very strong and a threat. You coulda avoided that risk.
It’s too expensive to do that move, but I think I could’ve gotten a better trade from orange.
You did a very good self-critical assessment of your game - but listening to all your good reasoning, I don't understand how you could make so many mistakes during the actual game...
Where's the finals video???
I haven’t put it out yet sadly :(
DylLighted - Catan well I’ll be looking forward to it! While I have you, just wanted to say, your Chanel really blew up my passion for catan. I binged most of your vids in the last few months and I have become unbeatable amongst my friends utilizing all strategies and play styles that you’ve introduced me to. So thanks for the lessons!
On your last turn, why not use the +2 development card to get a wheat and get another victory point through that?
You can only play 1 development per turn. I already played a knight.
I’ve never played this game
Chilling on that year of plenty
I wasn’t able to play it as your only allowed to play development card per turn. I had to take largest army.
@@DyLightedCatan True probably were playing knights on every turn up until the end.
I don't know why youtube bring me here after i watched redbull AoE 2 tourney... I like it...
I still prefer the Cones of Dunshire
hehe that seems like the most fun yet most complicated game ever
Seems like a cool game! I still love Catan. I don't think I'll ever get bored of it.
i want to buy this borardgame to play with my parents at christmas, but were not that rich ;(
It's 25$ on Amazon but with that said, I don't know your budget. I hope you can eventually get it!
Before I bought the game i custom made it by hand. it isnt to hard, its a bit of work but of course its better with the game itself :3
why could you not have used your year of plenty to finish your city on the 32:00 minute turn, winning the game
I have no fucking idea what is happening or how i got here