The only asterisks I do is just *hugs* and that's only for friends because we live on like, opposite sides of the world. Wouldn't do that for a stranger.
What I don't get is being angry at rejection for it. I mean, that's some terrible self-awareness there, one should be aware when one's very specific kinks (spontaneous+ fetish) puts them in the minority... I mean, coming right out with it *is* a great way to filter out people not interested in that but they should at least know that is going to be like 99.9% of people they contact.
* I approach you confidently as my hand is being placed on your waist, I bring you closer and whisper gently in your ear “Did you know that with GEICO you can save 15% on car insurance?” *
I think the asterisks roleplay thing comes from having a lot of online-only friendships/relationships, thus the only way to convey body language is intentionally clarifying it’s body language. BUT when you do that with people who have more in-person relationships it’s weird at best and awful at worst. They can also idealize what they would do, playing out any romanticized idea of how to court someone. It’s a strange subculture for sure.
Y e a h, I'm essentially that explanation but at least I also have the self-awareness to know when, what amount, and what kind is appropriate and who with, I can only imagine they're doubly or triply deep into the sub-culture or something, especially since this video still absolutely annihilates my soul with cringe all the same.
THIS. Not only is it the way to make italics on Discord, but it's a hell of a fun way to bs around on jokes with friends you actually know. I also know a couple of people who use it casually in general spaces. It's whatever. They aren't doing anything flirty or invasive. So folks that get upset usually just don't like the association. But please please please never do this when trying to flirt or (regardless of using asterisks or not) add some weird sexual shit unless it's in a private consentual place. Cringe is freedom, sure. But for the love of God, know your audience.
yeah as someone who used to do this, I typically did it because I was desperately trying to recreate the idea of being close to someone IRL. When me and my bf (now fiance) did this, I would try to recreate whatever he wrote. Like if he was like -puts arm around you- I'd hug myself. I was lonely, even with the few people I DID know IRL. For me at least it was an attempt at getting affection I desperately needed while also offering the same affection to them. It's not acceptable to jump right into fetish stuff though
I am once again asking the editors of Emkay, even the boss of Emkay team, to give Jack a facecam so we can all see his willpower to keep a very straight face doing all his bits.
my partner and i have started doing the creepy asterisks to each other for fun, it's really a show of how comfortable we are with each other. last night he sent me "*crawls up your clothes like a spider*" funny, amazing, original. this is the only acceptable form of roleplay, the kind where we're just being weird for the sake of being weird
The worst thing about these is you can really see the fanfiction they've taken this stuff from. Who else in the world still refers to eyes as 'orbs'...?
I roleplay a lot online. I have never met another roleplayer that does this in a serious manner. This feels like something us in our 30s did in our teens. I cant believe its still a "thing"
I was thinking the same while I was watching the video, I'm 30 and was thinking when was the last time I roleplayed like this, I think when I was 16 or so
I’m still a minor who roleplays a lot, but I completely agree. I’ve never met someone who does it unironically, it’s weird as hell. Just use tone indicators or emojis at most, guys, you don’t need to “*Shuffles awkwardly, glances at you* h-hi”, just… “Hi!“ It’s not hard
@@SnakeDude. NO BECAUSE I HAVE- Probably because I made the half mistake of using Amino, and am in a couple fandom that have gotten to the kids (some of which are concerning if twelve year olds are into them...) and I notice this a lot. I just can't function with asterisk roleplays-
my favorite usage of asterisks is by going "spins rapidly towards you" or anything involving spinning, but sometimes "breaks in through wall" is used for when i join a goofy lighthearted convo ! most of my friend groups are comfortable with this and sometimes play along but ive thankfully never saw someone in person that does this
* watches video * Ugh! I can’t believe people are like this. * looks up, gently tearing, face conveys exasperation * Oh well, nothing left for me now! * fucking dies *
This is the most... unexpectedly therapeutic video. No matter how weird or awkward I remember being as a kid at least I was never this. Not even anxiety fueled memories can contend with this new bar.
This is why I used my old number that I don't have anymore at Kroger. Not for stalkers, but like, there's so much crap someone can use when they have that number.
i cannot believe there is an entire subreddit dedicated to this. i cannot believe there is enough of this for an entire subreddit. ... we should have elected the meteor.
What's interesting is the people in question usually seem intelligent. The writing is obviously creative, and often well-written and grammatically correct. And still, the lack of self-awareness and respect is astounding.
Asterisk roleplay is *only* for people who you have a close enough relationship with, that are okay with it. You do not use it to flirt with other people, you do not use it to interact with strangers. It's creepy, it's cringey, and it's inappropriate.
"I feel like Gordon Freeman surrounded by a bunch of self aware AI" Oh, a 'Half Life but the AI Self is Self Aware' fan **blushes and looks to the ground with a cute smile** C-c-can w-we go on a d-d-d-date? **dies of cringe**
I'm am not against written/typed roleplay. But doing it without knowing if the other one is into it, or becoming sexual right off the bat is a permaban for me. Blocked, deleted, byeee Edit: tf, how do you fart furiously? And WHY is that a part or even the beginning of any conversation, RP or not?????
*As someone who doesn’t roleplay in a messaging app and seeing all these sussy aterisk roleplays, i may never roleplaying in a messaging app anytime soon 💀*
3:12 “Damn, just asking someone a question makes you all emotional?” *I DON’T FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING CALLED OUT LIKE THAT!!!* About two weeks ago, I messaged my crush, asking her out, and I started tearing up from fear of rejection
two things 1. possible solution : just say "*kills you*" maybe it will end it or something it could also make it weirder but 2. i have a friend that instead of actually doing anything, would just say "hits you" in a slightly angry tone and it was hilarious
Imma admit it here, i use to do '*' on paper (like the old middle school crush one) bc I didn't know how to write how i felt- I was also hyperfixated on the whole online roleplay dm thing too. God. Im glad I've evolved- kinda :'
Honestly this is what not to do in a roleplay as well as a serious what not to do irl. It’s what gives the role playing scene such a bad name in general.
OMFG immediately after the *farts aggressively* pic, I got a My Macca's ad. Then I farted. But it wasn't aggressive, and I'm only telling the internet so I think it's ok, right trendsetters?
Jack, that horse noise is called whickering, and it took two seconds of googling to find a video. (I only know this because of a massive elementary-school horse phase... my brain is full of useless horse facts now)
They say if you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. I don’t know about that, but as a girl, I can say this: writing *fArTs cUtElY* will make any girl laugh. It will make her laugh AT you, that much I can promise you, but it WILL make her laugh!
As someone who does text based roleplay (think D&D but instead of using your voice you type out your characters dialogue and actions, using asterisks to indicate action and quotations to indicate dialogue) this hurts my soul. It can be fine to do stuff like this if you know that whoever you are talking to is fine with it, but NEVER open with it if you don't know.
Naw naw don’t shut them down, they’ll never learn. Roleplay back, but in a completely nonromantic way. For example: 1: hello there beautiful~ *continued lifting my 50t dumbbells as the gorgeous demon courtesan approached* how are you, milady? 2: *grabs you by the ear and drags you out the door* shut tf up, you KNOW the furry war is upon us! Get your weapons and get out there soldier! Eh, maybe they still won’t learn, but at least this would be more fun :)
I have never met anyone who does that, but I'd love to do do something like: "Great ! * Pulls out and Racks FN P90 with 50 x 5,7 × 28 mm AP/FMJ (black tip or none)*" Since I think it might actually be more annoying to someone, if you play the game wrong instead of doing what they want.
As a representative of the furries…. We do not claim them. We ask first if you’re up for furry related RP first, without being weird. It’s a common courtesy that some of them do not know. If not then taking like a normal human being. Which sounds weird coming from a furry, but we are capable of that lol.
Omg I used to do roleplay on twitter and even I wasn't THAT effing weird. Like, I was, but only if the other person agreed and if they were an account centered on that. Then you can both be as weird as you want. And yeah, I've also gotten my share of weirdos like these. Jesus god damn Christ, I feel like my eyes have been opened to a new kind of creepiness that I didn't want to know in the first place. I'm glad that Jack made it funny tho. I love it when he narrates a video
14:50 my brother had a dnd character named Grump who had low int and wis and he said his name every time he took a step, so when he walked he’d just be saying “grumpgrumpgrumpgrump…” XD
as much as i like rping (roleplaying) on discord, i at least make sure the other person is willing to rp and try to plan it out before we get into it, the only time i'd do with anything remotely like the stuff in this video is if we're used to each other, and is mostly things like just patting them, watching videos like this is a very good way to keep myself in check i think, help from keeping myself from becoming like this
"Your feelings are valid, but your behavior is not." - Jack
Possibly one of the quotes that I've ever seen.
fr
Agreed,will add it to my list of one of the quotes
So true
I've definitely got to use this one, thanks Jack
Possibly?
I will never understand people who think their best chance at love is to immediately start the conversation with creepy roleplay fetish shit.
The only asterisks I do is just *hugs* and that's only for friends because we live on like, opposite sides of the world. Wouldn't do that for a stranger.
I really believe they watch wayyyyyyy too much anime and just think that those fantasy worlds are how it all works.
What I don't get is being angry at rejection for it. I mean, that's some terrible self-awareness there, one should be aware when one's very specific kinks (spontaneous+ fetish) puts them in the minority... I mean, coming right out with it *is* a great way to filter out people not interested in that but they should at least know that is going to be like 99.9% of people they contact.
@@moon-moth1 it's the 16 year olds 😢 I'm 13 and they do this way to often
@@SpaceBearEngineer I guess the same could be said for guys who spit out D pics the moment someone responds to them lol. Desperation ...
* I approach you confidently as my hand is being placed on your waist, I bring you closer and whisper gently in your ear “Did you know that with GEICO you can save 15% on car insurance?” *
This is the only correctly used rp asterisk
no because i use state farm *leaves as boss music plays weirdly*
*shoots self in head to not have to live in the world again*
* I'd try to lean away, failing, then poking your eyes out. I then kicked you in the [Childmaker] *
*pulls out my huge coc-
I think the asterisks roleplay thing comes from having a lot of online-only friendships/relationships, thus the only way to convey body language is intentionally clarifying it’s body language. BUT when you do that with people who have more in-person relationships it’s weird at best and awful at worst. They can also idealize what they would do, playing out any romanticized idea of how to court someone. It’s a strange subculture for sure.
Y e a h, I'm essentially that explanation but at least I also have the self-awareness to know when, what amount, and what kind is appropriate and who with, I can only imagine they're doubly or triply deep into the sub-culture or something, especially since this video still absolutely annihilates my soul with cringe all the same.
THIS.
Not only is it the way to make italics on Discord, but it's a hell of a fun way to bs around on jokes with friends you actually know.
I also know a couple of people who use it casually in general spaces. It's whatever. They aren't doing anything flirty or invasive. So folks that get upset usually just don't like the association.
But please please please never do this when trying to flirt or (regardless of using asterisks or not) add some weird sexual shit unless it's in a private consentual place. Cringe is freedom, sure. But for the love of God, know your audience.
*~•all of these I agree with•~*
Basically chronically online degens
yeah as someone who used to do this, I typically did it because I was desperately trying to recreate the idea of being close to someone IRL. When me and my bf (now fiance) did this, I would try to recreate whatever he wrote. Like if he was like -puts arm around you- I'd hug myself. I was lonely, even with the few people I DID know IRL. For me at least it was an attempt at getting affection I desperately needed while also offering the same affection to them. It's not acceptable to jump right into fetish stuff though
I am once again asking the editors of Emkay, even the boss of Emkay team, to give Jack a facecam so we can all see his willpower to keep a very straight face doing all his bits.
my partner and i have started doing the creepy asterisks to each other for fun, it's really a show of how comfortable we are with each other. last night he sent me "*crawls up your clothes like a spider*"
funny, amazing, original. this is the only acceptable form of roleplay, the kind where we're just being weird for the sake of being weird
The worst thing about these is you can really see the fanfiction they've taken this stuff from.
Who else in the world still refers to eyes as 'orbs'...?
Yes! I thought of that. The dreaded "orbs"!
*_NOT THE ORBS, ANYTHING BUT THAT!_*
Just say "gaze"! Calling them orbs unironically is. Psychopathic
@@osheridan *...The question is, Does it count with glass eyes? Y'know because they aren't **_actually_** biological eyes?*
👁👁 **stares at you with orbs**
I swear Emkay adds a new subreddit every week
I mean it's cool
creepyasterisks is a rlly old classic here
Its not a new one btw
Literally 😦
They did this subreddit before
I roleplay a lot online. I have never met another roleplayer that does this in a serious manner. This feels like something us in our 30s did in our teens. I cant believe its still a "thing"
I was thinking the same while I was watching the video, I'm 30 and was thinking when was the last time I roleplayed like this, I think when I was 16 or so
I’m still a minor who roleplays a lot, but I completely agree. I’ve never met someone who does it unironically, it’s weird as hell. Just use tone indicators or emojis at most, guys, you don’t need to
“*Shuffles awkwardly, glances at you* h-hi”, just… “Hi!“ It’s not hard
@@SnakeDude. even seeing it used as an example makes me want to jump of a cliff
@@witchy90210 I’m so sorry to have caused you such pain
@@SnakeDude. NO BECAUSE I HAVE- Probably because I made the half mistake of using Amino, and am in a couple fandom that have gotten to the kids (some of which are concerning if twelve year olds are into them...) and I notice this a lot. I just can't function with asterisk roleplays-
"I feel like Gordon freeman surrounded by a bunch of self aware AI"
You sir, are very well cultured.
I gotta agree
I gotta agree too
him saying that just made me picture the fuckin science team doing asterisks roleplay, oh no
@@attackfrogs AAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEEEEEEESAAAAAAEAelwqJFHOui
frfr
"Your feelings are valid, your behavior is not" is gold. 100% bringing that with to my therapy group
Only jack can make the most cursed subreddit 100 times more cursed, love it
my favorite usage of asterisks is by going "spins rapidly towards you" or anything involving spinning, but sometimes "breaks in through wall" is used for when i join a goofy lighthearted convo ! most of my friend groups are comfortable with this and sometimes play along but ive thankfully never saw someone in person that does this
As I'm listening to this godawful subreddit, I've come to the realization that Jack went through the stages of grief reading this.
This subreddit brought me physical pain. 10/10 excellent execution from emkay as always. I will be back.
1:10 As someone who works with horses everyday, the impression was pretty much spot on believe it or not
"I was the cashier at Kroger"
Not anymore you aren't.
emphasis on "was"
* watches video *
Ugh! I can’t believe people are like this.
* looks up, gently tearing, face conveys exasperation *
Oh well, nothing left for me now!
* fucking dies *
rip
*cries as reads headline*
im joining you
**dies**
**cutely sharts**
*turns into a shark and flies into the sun*
JACK WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SING THE PIGEONS
Oh hi lexi! How are you doing?
that ad one is pretty funny, imagine the Ikea being like: uwu the desk lamps are now at a wittle price for sale.
UwU senpai looks like you'll have to put me together yowoself
That physically hurt to write
this sub is basically "understandable, but don't be freaky when trying to approach someone else."
this is ohio
for what it's worth, jack, i live on a farm and there's plenty of horses here and when you made that sound i was like "man that's fucking accurate"
I come to Emkay's videos purely to witness narrator's descend into madness.
This is the best part of my day.
This is the most... unexpectedly therapeutic video. No matter how weird or awkward I remember being as a kid at least I was never this. Not even anxiety fueled memories can contend with this new bar.
This is why I used my old number that I don't have anymore at Kroger. Not for stalkers, but like, there's so much crap someone can use when they have that number.
i cannot believe there is an entire subreddit dedicated to this.
i cannot believe there is enough of this for an entire subreddit.
...
we should have elected the meteor.
Meteor runs for president 2023!
William Vincent ur real name?
I do this kind of thing sometimes. The difference is that the people I do it with consent and we have set boundaries.
Yeah, it's about consent
We did it. We found the subreddit that breaks Jack with cringe. I didn’t think it was even possible!
3:57
Emkay: *Starts doing akward racing car noises*
everybody watching: Bro this guy okay?
0:59 The second voice cutting in singing in “Low” is just too good 😂
heehee-
sorry
I don't think I've ever heard Jack deal with so much despair, and it was strangely endearing
“Your feelings are valid. Your behavior is not.” It shouldn’t go this hard but it does
i am 140% conviced that all of these people were wattpad writers/readers
2:18-2:48 had to be one of the most emotion-sucking experiences ever. Jack was clearly drained of life; I was completely devoid of my soul.
Never heard of this subreddit before... And to mock Elon in the thumbnail? I'm sold
1:53 barks like a dog (meow)🤣
What's interesting is the people in question usually seem intelligent. The writing is obviously creative, and often well-written and grammatically correct. And still, the lack of self-awareness and respect is astounding.
"I feel like Gordon Freeman surrounded by self aware AI"
*~•IS THAT A HLVRAI REFERENCE?! YESS•~*
Asterisk roleplay is *only* for people who you have a close enough relationship with, that are okay with it. You do not use it to flirt with other people, you do not use it to interact with strangers. It's creepy, it's cringey, and it's inappropriate.
The second-hand embarrassment from this subreddit is just too much to deal with before work.
glad I'm watching this while waiting for my therapy appointment
You will need more after this video
@@H341HER_D_K3 the therapist will need therapy after he interviews this guy
"I feel like Gordon Freeman surrounded by a bunch of self aware AI"
Oh, a 'Half Life but the AI Self is Self Aware' fan **blushes and looks to the ground with a cute smile**
C-c-can w-we go on a d-d-d-date? **dies of cringe**
How much did it hurt to write that
@@djdareqkebab he’s 6ft under rn i don’t think he can reply
It hurt so much that know I'm dead and I'm writing this from hell
This subreddit has made me hate myself less
I'm am not against written/typed roleplay. But doing it without knowing if the other one is into it, or becoming sexual right off the bat is a permaban for me. Blocked, deleted, byeee
Edit: tf, how do you fart furiously? And WHY is that a part or even the beginning of any conversation, RP or not?????
5:17 I LAUGHED AND TRIED TO STOP MYSELF AND THEN LAUGHED HARDER 💀
1:43 **unsuccessfully whistles Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! by ABBA**
Yes, Yes! Ever since I saw The Click do it I wanted to see how Jack would do it! Gosh, Emkay. You never disappoint! 💖
Wait, I watch the Click too! *compares subscriptions cutely*
J ofc
*As someone who doesn’t roleplay in a messaging app and seeing all these sussy aterisk roleplays, i may never roleplaying in a messaging app anytime soon 💀*
3:12 “Damn, just asking someone a question makes you all emotional?”
*I DON’T FEEL COMFORTABLE BEING CALLED OUT LIKE THAT!!!* About two weeks ago, I messaged my crush, asking her out, and I started tearing up from fear of rejection
WHY IS REJECTION SO BAD. (I'm aromantic) (I'm autistic) (I'm abcdefghijk-
Don't worry, Jack. My uncles race horse would do that too. We joked the horses that did that were just a little funky.
two things
1. possible solution : just say "*kills you*" maybe it will end it or something
it could also make it weirder but
2. i have a friend that instead of actually doing anything, would just say "hits you" in a slightly angry tone and it was hilarious
**t-poses** join us. *floats towards you* JOINS US.
No pleasessss
ok, not gonna lie.... this video was hard to get through without throwing my coffee across the room.
4:31
Im imagining a faint humm comming from someone's groins
*Farts cutely*
*Farts furiously*
*Farts anxiously*
*Farts Happily*
*Farts pensively*
*Farts lethargicly*
*Farts fartingly*
Ah yes fart powers
@@2006hondman yep *Farts Proudly*
@@GMan-bn3tb proceeds to fart so loudly blood comes out
13:39 I've never been so uncomfortable in an emkay video 💀
Remember if you delete anything from your browser search history is still saved on your server until we meet again
oh god
Imma admit it here, i use to do '*' on paper (like the old middle school crush one) bc I didn't know how to write how i felt- I was also hyperfixated on the whole online roleplay dm thing too. God. Im glad I've evolved- kinda :'
*snorts alchohol tissues attractively*
I was scrolling through the comments, saw this, and nearly inhaled a gulp of water. 🤣🤣 Why is this so funny?!
Man his reading skills are just next level!
5:08
This feels too much like an inside joke, I don't know why.
I never knew a fart joke could be cute and funny ,that bear is awesome
1:10 my dirt bike when it's low on fuel:
This video felt like it was an hour long.
When Jack says exactly what I am thinking in response to all the cringe. *sighs happily*
Honestly this is what not to do in a roleplay as well as a serious what not to do irl. It’s what gives the role playing scene such a bad name in general.
Elon you just had a child last year , give Grimes a break.
0:43 OH GOD THERE BECOMING SELF AWARE
All I could think while watching this was BURN IT! BURN IT ALL DOWN! Great work as always Emkay crew
After watching this I am *infinitely* more confident in my own garbage social skills
OMFG immediately after the *farts aggressively* pic, I got a My Macca's ad. Then I farted. But it wasn't aggressive, and I'm only telling the internet so I think it's ok, right trendsetters?
please let this man have a break, im worried he might start speaking like this irl
Jack, that horse noise is called whickering, and it took two seconds of googling to find a video. (I only know this because of a massive elementary-school horse phase... my brain is full of useless horse facts now)
They say if you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. I don’t know about that, but as a girl, I can say this: writing *fArTs cUtElY* will make any girl laugh. It will make her laugh AT you, that much I can promise you, but it WILL make her laugh!
Don't worry, I believe you about the horse sounds. I've witnessed something similar 😅
I love the one where the girl is like
It's okay 😀
*creep*
😞
There has never be a more emotional ji
As someone who does text based roleplay (think D&D but instead of using your voice you type out your characters dialogue and actions, using asterisks to indicate action and quotations to indicate dialogue) this hurts my soul. It can be fine to do stuff like this if you know that whoever you are talking to is fine with it, but NEVER open with it if you don't know.
6:40 I think I know this person 💀
The creepiness is vaguely familiar in the worst way imaginable
"barks like a dog"
meow
3:58 what an emotional performance from EmKay... the "mi mim" song
Naw naw don’t shut them down, they’ll never learn. Roleplay back, but in a completely nonromantic way. For example:
1: hello there beautiful~ *continued lifting my 50t dumbbells as the gorgeous demon courtesan approached* how are you, milady?
2: *grabs you by the ear and drags you out the door* shut tf up, you KNOW the furry war is upon us! Get your weapons and get out there soldier!
Eh, maybe they still won’t learn, but at least this would be more fun :)
I LOVE THIS ❤
I have never met anyone who does that, but I'd love to do do something like:
"Great ! * Pulls out and Racks FN P90 with 50 x 5,7 × 28 mm AP/FMJ (black tip or none)*"
Since I think it might actually be more annoying to someone, if you play the game wrong instead of doing what they want.
1:43 I appreciate the ABBA reference
Sometimes me and my cousin do the weird asterisks thing to joke around but, I still can’t believe that some people genuinely talk like that.
As a representative of the furries…. We do not claim them.
We ask first if you’re up for furry related RP first, without being weird. It’s a common courtesy that some of them do not know.
If not then taking like a normal human being. Which sounds weird coming from a furry, but we are capable of that lol.
Omg I used to do roleplay on twitter and even I wasn't THAT effing weird. Like, I was, but only if the other person agreed and if they were an account centered on that. Then you can both be as weird as you want. And yeah, I've also gotten my share of weirdos like these.
Jesus god damn Christ, I feel like my eyes have been opened to a new kind of creepiness that I didn't want to know in the first place. I'm glad that Jack made it funny tho. I love it when he narrates a video
3:52 bro turned into a motorbike
2:45 not the orbs 💀
12:59 this gives me the vibes of some goofy Lemon Demon song for some reason
8:57 Man this one wouldn't have been that bad if they didn't wrap it up with "*leans in*" LMFAOOO
Pookie wookie boo boo bear is now my favorite. I'm going to call my hubby this every chance I get.
10:34 Same Jack... same xD
Arbiter: "Were it so easy..."
that first one's recipient probably no longer had a crush after that
* watches video *
Good video
I gagged more than the gross game session I had of Would You Rather, and it was MESSED UP
7:39 THE WITCH IS DEAD!
Thank you so much for this comment
The David pfp on that Edgerunners thing made it so much better
The turnaround of "*shits your pants*" is fucking hilarious.
14:50 my brother had a dnd character named Grump who had low int and wis and he said his name every time he took a step, so when he walked he’d just be saying “grumpgrumpgrumpgrump…” XD
as much as i like rping (roleplaying) on discord, i at least make sure the other person is willing to rp and try to plan it out before we get into it, the only time i'd do with anything remotely like the stuff in this video is if we're used to each other, and is mostly things like just patting them, watching videos like this is a very good way to keep myself in check i think, help from keeping myself from becoming like this