We don't talk about this film enough. I think, that since this is a "family" film, it might have flopped cause when I saw the movie posters, I found the models to be scary. I was young then, and my older cousin insisted we watch it together when she got the DVD. I miss those days, at the kids table, with my cousins. At a grandparent's house I will never get to be at again. This video brought me comfort. Thank you.
Sounds like some great memories. I definitely agree the movie was probably difficult to market, it came out the same time as that 'Where the Wild Things Are' movie, and I think both had this sort of "who was this made for" feel that lead them to financially flop but boy is it a gem
Oh its actually super neat, the 2009 Oscars for animation had a little 'pre-recorded message' by each of the "nominees" so Mr. Fox, Russel from Up, etc all gave a quick little message to the academy thanking them for their nomination. It's cute and I wish they still did it @@onojioboardwalk9748
@@NapoleonVIINap .. Yknow i just found 3 versions of those on youtube from that event. One of them even plays the 'Wolf' theme as the oscar 'Music.' >)
Aw man I'm glad to hear that. I went into making this cause I think I get into my own head a lot about it, its really nice to see all the ppl who seem to have felt similar. And I agree, it doesn't sound so bad in the end :)
@@NapoleonVIINapsharing is caring! We are a family of emotions and experiences. We are at the table of ideas, enjoying the potluck that we have brought to each other. In this parasocial case, your dish being the centerpiece that we appreciate.
Buddy let me tell you. Being grown up isn't easy and yeah it has lots of woes. But being able to say, do, shop, think, eat, go, wherever you want? Being able to trade your energy and time, even at a place you possibly hate, for at least money and experience, is galaxies way better than being forced to against your will be stuck for 5 days a whole week unpaid in a place that is boring and miserable where you get bullied or have to worry about grades and learning things that are mostly useless and being valued as a human being for how well you always fall in line or just shut up and repeat back what is already known a hundred times. Nobody for the most part likes doing adult work but the cool thing about it is, not only can you choose it, when someone mistreats you you can actively pursue legal Justice, or at least just quit the job, without any legal consequences about it. You can forgo jobs and be an entrepreneur or just sit on your butt at home all day and rely on a sugar daddy, or welfare, or good friends help... it doesn't matter...no one at the end ultimately can tell you who to really be or why you should do something without your consent first. There is no fixed destiny for any of us and when you're a kid you have to be ground to a pulp trying to figure that out and that pressure is driving everyone mad in their teenage years. But when you're an adult you realize I could just turn this car around and go wherever *I* want, whenever I want, if I really have to and I have all the means to. Unlike when you're young you don't honestly need to demand of yourself anything beyond what personally keeps you alive and satisfies you. When you grow up, you you don't give a crap about "cringe." You don't have to care if you choose not to what the neighbors say or the other adults say. I mean you can but unlike School you aren't usually forced into situations against your will to be round others who judge you. Having freedom is more important than anything. Appreciate it whenever you get there instead of dreading the future or wallowing in the past.
This metaphor of leaving the kids table hits in such a hard way for me. We used to have a kids table every thanksgiving, and I remember being 8 and desperately wanting to sit with the grown ups. A year later, my grandma passed, and we couldn’t having thanksgiving at her house anymore because of it. We no longer had a kids table anymore because the new house we hosted it at couldn’t fit one. I remember sitting at the adults table for the first time that year. I should have felt excited to finally have moved up, but it was cold and empty and sad without my grandma there and everyone felt it. I wish I could go back to the kids table. I’m sitting here, 18, and I feel like I’ve missed out on all of my life so far because of tragedy. I feel like I didn’t get any time at that safe place of the kids table, and I’m frustrated because it’s not fair and I’m never going to get those years back. I’m so hopelessly upset about what I’ve lost.
You have all right to feel hopeless. Loss is something that becomes familiar with age. Please know that grieving is necessary to move on. Don't look back with regret rather everything she did for you. Bringing everyone together not just during thanksgiving, but as a family. Someone who has been there since the beginning building the family you have now, while leaving the best parts behind; you. Her legacy is you. Don't think she is gone, no- "live with the life of two". Live your life not just for yourself rather for her as well. Be more not just for yourself, but for those around you. It's what she would want. I can say it gets better, but it's up to you on if it does. Wish you nothing but the best, much love and take care.
@@kdjdjsj3645 do you remember how scary that was? do you remember the adults telling you you were just a kid still? how meaningless your words felt when they were dismissed as something childish? the feelings you feel your entire life are real. whether youre 10, 18, 20, 40, or 100 your experiences are yours and they matter. they shape you as a human being, they shape the memories you look back on, they shape the person you will be in the future. 18 is relatively young in the grand scope of things but 18 is what we call an adult in america. 18 is your approach into "real" life and your departure from that comforting idea of childhood. everyones pushing you to grow up, and youre pushing yourself to grow up, and you dont really know what to expect looking forward, just what people tell you. being 18 is terrifying, and i say this as a person a decent bit past those years. you can say "grow up" but rather i think we should encourage being young. doing the things that make you happy, doing the things you feel are right, and as you stumble your way through those rough years youll learn the right things to do, learn from mistakes, learn who you are and who youve always been. 18 is still a kid maybe, but what stops 30 from still being a kid in the eyes of a 60 year old? an older person can look back and think "oh how naive" at a man with a wife and kids and a 6 figure salary. dont ever forget the perspective of other people, or the perspective you yourself had at your own stages in life.
Two things: Mrs. Fox changing from lightning storms to tornadoes makes more sense if the paintings represent how she views her husband All the Animals having American accents and all the humans having British accents is always going to be funny to me. England is the perfect punching bag, especially as a foil to America
@@littlefox7694 Though he was born to Norwegian immigrant parents, and lived most of his life in England (though he did live in the US and a couple of African colonies as well). In terms of being Welsh, he was born there and spent his early childhood there, but that's as far as it goes.
Which is especially amusing since the film was made in the UK. MacKinnon and Saunders, based in Altrincham, made the puppets and the whole thing was filmed in a studio in London. The US involvement is the majority of the voice cast, 2/3rds of the production companies, and the distributor (so basically the talent and the money!).
Fantastic Mr. Fox is one of my favourite movies ever, ever since I saw it for the first time as a kid. There's something so warm, wistful and real yet conforting about the themes and the characters. I have never seen such a splendid piece of media such as this movie.
I am somebody who has never celebrated a Thanksgiving but I am having difficulty in "leaving the kids table". I became 18 years old this month and have felt anxious about it ever since. My entire life Ive heard nothing but bad about growing up whether it be online or offline, not a single positive opinion about it. Seeing you talk about this movie and how you also felt this way made me feel relief.
This is something I experienced too, though I'm 30. I don't remember a single cartoon, TV show, etc that portrayed adulthood as something good. We even had Codename: Kids Next Door, which basically had that as its entire premise. I don't know how much of that was just the tropes typical to kids media (any setting with competent, responsible adults is one where kid heroes won't be going on adventures) and how much was propaganda. Thankfully, it worked out eventually, mostly because I found Lord Jesus. I'll Pray for you.
I got very similar feelings around the time i was 16-17. I realised my childhood was over and very soon what people and society expected from me was going to change very very drastically. I'm 24 now, it's not too bad, being broke sucks, realising University doesn't help as much as I thought it would sucks, but I would absolutely not ever go back to being a teenager. I would advise ignoring anything people online say about "if you're not X by the time you're Y age what are you doing", and you'll have a much better time in adulthood
Growing up is amazing. If you had a great childhood you get the opportunity to pay it back to your parents while also going on solo adventures. If you had an awful childhood you get to escape and feel safe for possibly the first time in your life. I don’t know whose been smack talking adulthood to you but it’s amazing. 🎉
@@mommalion7028But at the same time, as someone who just started college, I do think I'm worse off with each new responsibility I have to juggle than I was before. Maybe it's because I'm still new to being an adult, but I can't say I agree about growing up being amazing, especially the last year or so since once I hit adult age I got slammed with way too many responsibilitiies at once. I feel like I don't have time to do the things I did in my free time after normal school, like experimenting with sewing and baking. So honestly I see why so many people say bad things about it, and I agree with them.
Growing up is hard. I won't delude you. But, if you can face it bravely and give it your best, it is worth it. You will have many more responsibilities, but also more freedom. With that freedom, of course, comes danger, and it is difficult to decide where to go or what to do. Just do your best to enjoy meeting people and learning things anyone the way. Good luck, and may God bless you.
The animated flair of _Fantastic Mr. Fox_ sure adds something to the feel of this video. You’re listening to this deep and wistful character analysis, and then every two minutes the characters in question will perform some action in the goofiest-looking way humanly imaginable
The best kids films are usually questionably appropriate for kids. Leave kids to their own devices and they will often naturally gravitate towards themes and images that are "too grown up for them". I know that the stories from my childhood that I remember most fondly, and still revisit often, are not things i was allowed to watch. Or at least I was not encouraged to watch them. Most of the stuff my grandparents thought was appropriate for me is nauseatingly, patronisingly sweet and simple. I swear that stuff is actually bad for early development.
Oh yeah. For me that was the movie 9. I saw it when I was 7 or 8 I think. It terrified me, gave me nightmares for awhile but it shaped so many of my views today and I'm glad for it
yes actually, about your comment about the sickingly sweet child movies. the sad truth is that studies have shown that they are bad for kids :( turns out their simplicity is part of the probelm. children need to use their brains, as we humans actually learn a lot of how to live from context. we literally copy what we see and our inner world is built off of what we experience, movies and shows included. children's brains on children's media just don't grow very quickly, sometimes even becoming stunted and the lessons they learn don't coincide with reality, which puts them into existential crisis later in life. turns out, watered down "adult" media, is better for children (the stuff we tend to be drawn to as kids), since it replicates watching adults do adult things. if children media simply became more realistic, the sweetness wouldn't harm them one bit, but as it stands, we teach them to be little "lost boys" through our movies and shows.
i was just wondering why a lot of kids shows have some really crazy stuff in them. ones i can think of rn are stuff like courage the cowardly dog, gumball, adventure time, maybe fairly oddparents etc etc. im pretty sure most of these are more for tweens(??) than super young kids so that explains some of it, but like theres so much dark and weird stuff in these shows and kinda i understand why now! im not sure some of the stuff in THESE specifically would be good for kids necessarily, but i remember them a lot more than other kids shows. i recently watched that new fairly oddparents series, and the main character tried to end her own life in one episode??? like is that allowed? theres MULTIPLE episodes where i thought "wow if i was a kid watching this i would have ran out of the room"
This is one of my favorite movies by far. I related a lot to Mr. Fox in feeling the need to be a loud, witty, good-at-everything individual who always says the toast. Throughout the movie and especially at the beginning, I think it's telling how Mr. Fox gives a lot of compliments or encouragement to people that isn't exactly insincere, and he definitely means it as much as he's able to, but they really just serve to keep him in the spotlight. It isn't completely selfish, but it is only as selfless as a mature child is capable of. Adults are called to a greater kind of selflessness. I think about how when I was a kid, I would rarely in a lucid moment realize how incredible it was that my dad could find the will to repair something in the house that wasn't going to break in the next day, week, or maybe even in a year, wasn't going to be noticed by anyone else, but still just needed fixing. I didn't think I'd ever be able to do that. I've recently started to grow just a little bit of those kinds of adult habits and mindset and realized that it is way more fantastic than the superficial, unsustainable good-at-everythingedness that I centered my identity around before. It is strength, and adults need to have that strength, especially parents. You're spot on that the media has adopted a message of "never grow up" that maybe wasn't originally meant to be so extreme, but has come to mean that one ought to stay exactly as a child in every aspect, and has given us a disregard for older generations and a discontentment at the notion of taking any traits from them. We need to hear that we have a responsibility to grow up, that it is inevitable, and that it is okay, and even good, to do it well.
The timing of this video is remarkable. My university film club is literally playing fantastic mr fox tomorrow (shoutout UBC). I needed to hear this, I’m 24 and I feel so old compared to my other classmates. After taking a couple gap years when my grades plummeted during the pandemic, it feels like I’ve lost those crucial years of my life. All year I’ve struggled with feeling that I don’t belong or that I’m too far gone. Definitely gonna view this film through this lens tomorrow.
God Bless! We really weren't prepared well, were we? The last few generations (I'd say Gen X, Gen Y and Millennials especially) have been failed pretty badly by the system. Still, try not to pay attention to that feeling, it's not true. Jesus loves you no matter how well or poorly your youth was spent, and loving Him back is what will matter in the end, when all other things fade away.
Hey man, as somebody who still wishes that he just took a few gap years during the pandemic, good on you. You did what was best for yourself at the time. Hope you had a good time at the showing.
I'm 34 and feel I've blown it, but I know 44 year Olds, 54 year Olds, 64 year Olds who turn their lives around. You're never going to feel finished, if we were ever satisfied we wouldn't have buildings government, internet, penicillin. Congratulations, you're on the very cusp of your pre frontal cortex being fully developed and that is a game changer. Have fun.
Hey dude, I have also noticed that this video is doing really well and I just wanted to say that: You deserve this. this isn't a fluke or the algorithm blessing you, no, this is a deserved W for your continual hard work making videos. This video was well crafted, fresh and engaging, theres a reason its this one blowing up. You smashed it dude, enjoy it, because you deserve it. PS I really liked the video and have subscribed :)
Thats really really kind of you to say, I appreciate it. I had a great time making this video so I'm thrilled so many others seem to be connecting with it. Thanks so much
I heard this story about a fish. He swims up to this older fish and says, "I'm trying to find this thing they call the ocean." "The ocean?" says the older fish. "That's what you're in right now." "This?" says the young fish. "This is water. What I want is the ocean."
I know other people have said it but this is absolutely and criminally underrated. The level of introspection that you reach is very real and absolutely a quote unquote fantastic take on my favorite movie. I got a little misty eyed hearing the intricacies of how it is ok to develop and grow with time. Definitely not a message that is commonly spread, especially in the way that Fantastic Mr Fox is able to represent.
Thank you, I needed to hear this. When I got married, I moved off the mainland to my wife's island town. I just welcomed my first child into the world and it's hitting me just how much of my past dreams and expectations I'm having to let go of. I always pictured raising my son close by to friends and family that are now far away and working on creative projects together with them. Thank you for the reminder that it's ok to move on. To build a future for my loved ones rather than trying to reclaim the past. Thank you.
the title itself comforted me so much. I’m kinda at a crossroads where I’m considered an adult in my family because of maturity during a family tragedy but I wasn’t ready to grow up this fast. I’m only 17 I thought it wouldn’t happen this fact and I sit with the adults now and it’s just so disorienting. I’m so scared of being older thank you for making this
As someone who's twice you age, I can't tell you that we're never ready to grow up. Accepting that is part of growing up. If you only act when you're absolutely ready, I assure you that you're gonna end up missing things out. I speak from experience.
I’m afraid to accept that I’ve grown up because so many things I wanted to have happen when I was still a kid didn’t But hanging out in this limbo state forever isn’t bringing any of those lost opportunities back, it’s just making me less receptive and available to the opportunities that exist for adults
recently my brother went off to college. and now, since he’s i guess “properly grown up” because he moved out and everything, he sits at the adults table. it’s really strange at the kids table now without him. any holiday i’ve been to i’ve sat near him and now that he’s not there anymore it’s like there’s a void that begs to be filled. don’t get me wrong, i’m glad he’s grown up and doing his own thing, but a part of me will always miss when it was just us and our cousins at the kids table. him moving and growing up marks a big moment in my life where i need to adjust to not having him there anymore, and that’s scary to think because i’m not sure how i should feel about it. part of me wants to grieve that he’s not here all the time anymore, part of me wants to feel relieved i don’t have another person bugging me every day, and part of me wants to stop time and keep everything the same because change is scary, but part of me accepts change must happen and being scared is normal, as is growing up and leaving the kids table, but yet another part of me will always yearn for what once was, just us and our cousins in the ever growing and changing kids table
I teared up a little bit… I’m 26 now and people started making fun of my age by 24. I’m not afraid to be old I’m afraid of how people will treat me when I am. When I no longer have any visual use for them.. or I haven’t accomplished getting a good job.
I'm going to be honest, you're going to look back at this thought 5, 10, 20 years from now and think it's REALLY funny you felt old in your 20s. When you're 45 you'll think it's funny you felt old in your 30s. It keeps going. Just enjoy your youth and do what you can.
Charismatic, casual, with this soft hit of tongue in cheek self aware humor that flows so naturally. Gem. Havent liked, commented, and subscribed to a random rec this fast in a minute. Keep it up homie :)
This video brought me to tears. It very much resonated with me emotionally. I turned eighteen 11 months ago and I've been catching myself reminiscing about my last couple of summers and the time I've spent with friends and how life was easier because i had a kind of continuity to this experience. Now the end of my high school career looms above me as I prepare myself for my final exams and eventually college. My wish to keep my inner child as I grew older and now officially into adulthood grew more and more, and I felt repressed time and time again after realizing how my expectations and those of others for me to mature would keep me away from this wish for the foreseeable future. This video kind of broadened my horizons and allowed me to reflect on myself in a different light. Last time I watched this movie was about ten years ago and I totally didn't get any of it because I was too young, so I plan on revisiting it now that I have a better understanding of its themes and story i already watched some of your older video essays and this one is by far the best one, keep up the good work :>
"the immature obsession with what was or what happened in the past will always keep you sat at the kids table." fuck man i really needed to hear that today, with the fact that my past and people from my past keep turning up to try and ruin what's going on in my life and stomp out the flame i have pushing me forward with my passions, it's nice to hear from a random video on youtube that i'm not going crazy, and to hear the same sort of advice repeated from another source. thank you, genuinely.
i think something else to note is that we as people have a tendency of adhering to one of two things. either a.) we're still at the kid's table because we think it's where we belong or b.) we're sat at the adult's table before we were fully ready to do so. in regards to point a, i think, especially in this day and age, there are people who don't wan't to leave the kids table because they don't feel like they know what they're doing. they don't feel "adult enough" so to speak, therefore holding them back from growing and moving forward in their lives. i've seen people say that they're in their late 20's, early 30's (and beyond) who say that they don't know what they're doing and being an adult is something that's hard to navigate. whether they have a support system or not i think plays a major role in that, but even if you do have a support system, and you don't have everything handed to you, there are still hard lessons to learn that come alongside growing up. as for my second point, once again, in this day and age, there seems to be pressure on kid's. that they, because of social media, or idolizing celebrities, or putting their older siblings up on a pedestal sets a precedent for kids to grow up or mature in a way that they shouldn't have to until years down the line. coming from someone who understands both of these points, it's weird! i am simultaneously the kid who grew up too fast AND the kid who feels like they don't know what they're doing. this movie has always struck a chord with me, ever since i watched it as a kid, and it still strikes that same chord in me today. i just have the vocabulary to actually put my thoughts down into words now. (sorry not sorry for the rant, i'm an english major who loves this movie and felt the need to say my peace.)
Very well said. Identity is just something we all have to grapple with, at every stage of life. Not just because with time our situations change, but because we will also change. Leaving the kids table and the movie really outline how much weight other peoples perception has on our identity, and whether we accept our changes.
Kinda fitting I get this video recommended to me on a day when the pinched nerve in my back is acting up and I feel all kinds of depressed about not being who I used to be. It's a great and honest analysis of one of the most misunderstood and underappreciated movies.
I needed this… I’m 26 and quite literally still sit at the kids’ table during the holidays. It feels like time is slipping away and I’m not doing enough.
Hi, I'm from Brazil and I can guarantee that thanksgiving is rarely celebrated in Brazil, it's more like just a thing to see and say like " oh cool American stuff"
I'm a simple marsupial. I see fantastic Mr. Fox and I click like. This was the last kids movie that rocked my socks. Still love it just as much as an adult. The score is just lovely, and the song they dance to in the supermarket, let her dance by the Bobby Fuller four is the first song I ever tabbed out by ear on guitar. Planning on watching it with my friends on discord sometime this holiday season
I needed to hear that, I became 31, felt I never became a succesful artist and became depressed over it. Social media does tell me that my life is over and that I'm no longer relevant, especially as a creator.
I just watched Fantastic Mr. Fox yesterday and today this popped up in my recommended. I’ve had a hard time dealing with the transition to college, my fears for the future and regretting opportunities I feel that I missed. This video was a comfort to me and I’m sure to a lot of other people. Thank you. :)
Its kind of crazy that this video felt like a nice little therapy session for me. I love this movie, and I never really looked this deep into it. Personally I have this subconscious feeling that being a person in a state of change is seriously looked down upon. Its "embarrassing" that last year I looked and acted different than I did this year. Even positive changes get mixed up in that fear of being seen as different. But this analysis genuinely had me re-thinking this whole messed up mentality I have, and how aging and changing is very natural and a good thing for people to do. Theres a reason we all tend to cringe a little at our old self yk?
Really loved this video! Your speaking style and writing is great. I love analyzing how different characters reflect each other and I think your concept of "leaving the kids table" fits just perfect. I didn't really grasp what you meant by that until I took a look at the Fox family and how their relationships influence each other.
When you look at Mr. Fox he really is grasping at something that he used to be, unable to move on it. This is reflected in the frustrated and un-targeted fury and energy that his son has! The disposition of not impressing his dad comes off to me as a reflection of Mr. Fox's inability to impress himself. Christopherson on the other hand, comes off as achieving effortlessly, which Mr. Fox would like to see as a reflection of himself, but really seems to me like it is a reflection of who he wishes he was, like in the "old days". This is reiterated by Christopherson not actually having any goal or direction of his own, painting him as a drawn bow with nothing to aim at. I'd like to think the good vibes and focus of the context keep him from actually aiming backwards and I feel like that keeps the movie Chrisp, fresh, and lighthearted! I also really like to think of how the fox boys reflect Mr. Fox when you take Ms. Fox's perspective into account. She already knows what Mr. Fox is capable of and what he has achieved, and though she wants him to succeed she sees the danger and potentially ego based decisions that fuel his actions. This in my opinion makes him come off as younger or immature, which to me is how Mr. Fox sees his son earlier in the movie. The entire fox family's evolution through the movie is very interesting and I found it fascinating to look at the son as this vase of unbridled energy and potential trying to discover itself as how one might view Mr. Fox as "needing to leave the kid's table". Thanks so much for this awesome video. This movie is an absolute delight to watch and your video and commentary did it so much justice. Will definitely be subscribing :)
This video is perfect timing for me because I've been thinking about the struggles of growing up a lot lately. I'm in my mid 20s and I still feel like a child in so many ways, I want to grow up so bad but I'm afraid at the same time and with so so many obstacles. I'm certain a lot of people feel the same way I do so best of luck to everyone, I'm definitely gonna try my best to grow up into someone I want to be. Love Fantastic Mr. Fox and great video btw
I really needed this. Recently I've been struggling with the idea of growing up. I've had numerous conversations with friends about how if I could turn back time I would, and how things aren't what they used to be. When we were younger, we all dreamed of what life would be like when we got older. We *wanted* to leave the kids table so bad. But now that it's coming to the time where we really are, I think we all lost that eagerness to see what life will be like once we grow up. To see how we change and grow as a person. This video helped with bringing that eagerness back for me. Love that people are still analyzing Fantastic Mr. Fox, such a great film.
Fear of change is normal and natural but for me the idea of never maturing out remaining a kid forever scares me just as much the fact that I'm 20 and still spend more time on my hobbies than I do working is one of the scariest things to me
Nah, I'd say it's fine. Work is important, and it can be quite fulfilling, but ultimately work is something we do for survival in society. The least well adjusted people I ever met working were the ones who worked so much that it became a central part of their identity. No interests, no hobbies, no ability to simply socialize. My advice? Do your best at work, don't slack off, but understand that you have a set amount of work hours. Don't be scared to spend more time on your interests and your life than on work. Specially if you're an employee, not a business owner.
In Korea, there is a similar holiday called Chuseok. Since the 1980s, there has been a trend of giving more food to the head of the household. When the kids finish eating, they help wash the dishes, and the adults gather together, well... they just gather together. It was like an unwritten rule. Giving someone a meal was a sign of respect for the members who went to work and earned their living expenses. Of course, there was old-fashioned discrimination at the time, so there were some families who misunderstood this unwritten rule and selfishly thought that they should receive more food. This is an unwritten rule that has no meaning in today's Korean society, but at the time, it was a common sight as most families lived together with five or more people. And the most important thing about the table at that time was my father's seat. The meat is always placed closest to where the father sits, and no one sits in his seat. At the time, there was a patriarchal atmosphere, and there was also an unwritten rule created for mothers to respect or affection their husbands. Of course, because this era had many discriminatory ideas, there were also selfish fathers who twisted this and thought that women should treat men better. What I'm saying is that it was a time when you had to be nervous about something definite: truly becoming an adult and taking on a position of responsibility for someone else. Everyone has a role. However, I don't mean to make a stupid statement that everyone should give up their dreams for the sake of a family. This means that the responsibility that everyone has when they become adults is not something that is created overnight. Everyone gives up something to make money as a factory worker or to go to Germany or America. It was a very dark time, but that is why the etiquette of respect for members who made such efforts was later developed. As Korea enters a serious aging society, the older generation is trying to harshly squeeze out the remaining young generation through the system, and instead of laying the foundation for the next older generation, they are only creating a welfare system for the current older generation, fighting against time and waiting for the future. There is a fight going on. However, at the same time, the younger generation who are becoming adults also have many problems. They are notorious for committing crimes as teenagers with little or no legal punishment, and in their 20s, they give birth to children without thinking and abandon them, making them the number one exporter of orphans. Most of those who desperately need change accept it too indiscriminately and easily judge each other in black and white terms, leading to feminism or extremism. I'm afraid to imagine what that table will look like when we grow up in this irresponsible, biting, twisted state and sit in the adult's seat, the father's seat. But the thing that scares me the most is that I will be sitting in my father's chair and no one will be there during Chuseok (a holiday similar to Thanksgiving in the United States) where the family gathers. Friends, relatives, and even my mother. But as time passes, this world just prepares to accept it. I don't know what to do with this reality where I have nowhere to lean on and the noise around me is only getting louder. Just be prepared to accept it..
we dont celebrate thanksgiving here, but this video still somehow feels nostalgic and thats real talent since ive never even gotten close to a thanksgibing meal
The TH-cam algorithm must be listening because my family watches this movie for Thanksgiving every year. :) I haven't finished the video yet but it's already resonating with me. It's a movie that feels very comforting in a "None of us have this whole adult/life thing figured out but at least we're together." I have been looking forward to it more this year because I've just gotten my first real adult job and will be moving out soon. It's been hard grappling with the very strong "end of childhood-ness" feeling of it. Thank you for this video ❤
I’ve been spiraling lately. A DUI, a bad relationship, and crippling depression. I’m scared every day and I have little hope. This video was bittersweet to me and it helped me change my perspective a little. Thank you
Weird to focus on but i appreciate the retrowave/city pop in the background. I always thought that kind of music was perfect for this sort of whistful but introspective look into our inner selves. Like a soft breeze blowing past you at sunset, the volitile mixture of emotions in you gets shaken loose by that odd half remembered feeling of hearing music just like this some time long ago. Or im nuts. Great vid, thanks for doing it!
The Totoro music in the background hits the nail on the head. The faint background made my ears perk up and instilled this warm childhood feeling in my chest that Ghibli movies encompass - all the while you're talking about how we must accept and cherish our childhood selves, whilst still detaching & growing from them. at 18 I am no adult, but this still put a smile on my face :)
Wow... This movie has been in my top 10 of all time since the first time I watched it in 2010 (yeah, I was late to the party like everyone else), and every time I watch it I find something else to appreciate. This analysis took most of what I already understood about the story (on the surface maybe) and put it all back together in such a profound way. I never really thought about why it resonated with me so much, and still does, but now I think the fact that I'm almost 35 and still haven't quite figured out who I am is a big part of it. Thank you for this. I have so many conflicting emotions right now. A like and subscribe well earned, friend.
It’s crazy that this video got to me before my last Thanksgiving while in High school. Struggling on the thought of what’ll mean to finally grow up, being an adult and this current year already flying by and being scared of not enjoying the last bit of “childhood” and grasping at something that isn’t there. A feeling. The feeling of child like wonderment that was only there when it need it to be. Growing up for me is realizing it’s ok that I won’t feel that anymore or in reality that it’s gonna look and feel different…and that’s ok. Hope that makes sense :) Also really get the having a mid life crisis since age 10😭
Fun fact. Canada's Thanksgiving is actually in October, and it is its completely own thing that can be traced back before American Thanksgiving (1621 vs 1578).
I never really comment on videos, but I recently watched this film and your video hit some cord in my head regarding growing old. I lost half my time at university due to the pandemic and felt robbed of what I was told should be your “best years”, thrown into adulthood and the inevitable responsibility that comes with it. I’m 24 now and this video and the idea of leaving the kids table (even though I don’t celebrate thanksgiving lol) and being scared of that has helped me accept that it’s ok to grow older just that little bit more. Awesome video essay man!
This video hits well. The moment I left the kids table, the moment I decided to really take control of my life for myself and no one else, was when I started my transition. Transitioning in my mid/late 20s has been interesting, because according to some I'm so lucky and early and to others I might as well not bother because I'm too old. And going home as a different gender, as a different person, was one of the fears that kept me in the closet for so many years. I wasn't able to hide that I'd changed, that I was making decisions purely for myself, that I disregarded what some of them taught and I'm happier for it. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I just find transitioning an interesting compliment to a lot of the themes you touched on about growing up and changing, holding on to yourself while embracing new circumstance to make your life better.
Earned a subscription on this discussion of middle-age as expressed through a stop-motion movie I've never watched. The folly of youth is thinking the best days are only ahead of us. The folly of age is thinking the best days are only behind us.
as someone who didnt get to transition but was rather thrown onto the adults table. covid, dropping out in year 10 and getting an apprenticeship (and the things that come with a full time job) plus having quite a high iq (not a good thing im constantly stressed and do have ADD), i still feel like a kid because the transition stage that usually happens never did, im a kid mentally in an adults body, and have mates that point it out, they like it but also understand the issues i have like lacking feelings, not because they arent there, but that i never knew they were feelings i could feel. i've accepted myself now but this movie when i first watched it and later now still hits home.
This is a nice video, and I'm taking the message to heart as I should. After high school I abhorred the idea of going to college, it was against who I was a student, but I'm going back now 3 years later as a very changed person, hoping to get my life on track - subject to that social media youth-is-wasted-on-the-young interpretation of getting my shit in order right away. It'll take time, and that's fine. That being said, I'm 22 and I want to briefly mention that when I turned 18 and "became an adult," my street had a block party a couple days later and I went and stayed for the whole party after all the kids left earlier in the night and at the end I already was like "yep, I'm an adult now" and subsequently stopped thinking about it, lmfao
it has been MONTHS since i ran across some REAL good story/philosophy/literature/writing content, so man am i glad i ran across this powerhouse of a video. Fantastic Mr Fox has been my favorite film since I first saw it around 2012 and its nice to see its themes going to good use in the analysis of your proposed allegory of the story.
21:50 - can't overhear the wonderful yet so distant and quiet background music you chose "stay with meee" - "hah love that one... wait what was he saying now?"
I am so glad this video got this much attention, it definitely deserved it. I think you talked about this topic perfectly, as a person who has never really done thanksgiving/never really sat at the kids table, I think it explained to me really well what the feeling is like. I have always loved this film since I was kid (still have the dvd with me in my house haha), you really did it justice Nap and I thank you for this :)
INCREDIBLE!! I showed my wife this movie for the first time a few weeks ago and she loved it. It hit both of us that it's clearly a Thanksgiving movie. So much so, that we're taking it to her sister's house to watch with the family this Thanksgiving Day 2023. On a separate note, I've been laid off twice in the past six months, so that's been making my inherent feeling of "provider doing what he loves for a job" more nebulous. All that to say, this movie was also somehow comforting in that feeling
Beautiful video my man. Thank you. I dont live life anymore, i consoom the products of the life of others. Your vid brought me to tears by your words and my memories of this wonderful movie along with the years upon years i spent obsessed with roald dahl and all the changes i went through in that period. Im certain this video is adding to me being ready to live again. Im going to watch this film again tonight! Love and blessings!
I don't really comment on videos but this really hit home for me. I first watched this film in the fall of my freshmen year of college, which for the conversation of this film makes it resonate with me all the more. Leaving to go to college is often a signifier of adulthood - you are out on your own and you are (mostly) taking care of yourself and you become (almost) fully responsible for yourself. I have watched this movie several times since but every time I watch I have always gravitated towards the character of Mr. Fox. I always see on media that they relate to Ash, but that never really, truly resonated with me. This video helped me realize why - I watched this in a moment where I was forced to grapple with growing up. Even now, two years later, I still do not think I am ready to leave the kid's table. I am, like you said, scared of growing up. Sure, at some point, I will move on just Mr. Fox does. But, like Mr. Fox, the passage of time is a deep fear that I have constantly, especially now that time seems to go even faster the older I get. I feel so encouraged after this video, thank you for your analysis!
this video is criminally underrated and i almost never comment below youtube videos but i felt the need to let you know just how much i thoroughly enjoyed the deep introspective monologues while watching scenes from a movie that i'd also overlooked as a kid but read the novel for. you reminded me of a bittersweet childhood that i feel more and more distant from with each passing day. and while i will not be flying back to see my family this year for thanksgiving, i somehow feel right at home watching this video. thank you for creating content in the way that you do. i'm glad i happened upon this video and your channel and i hope that there is more to come in the future
Somehow this popped up in my feed today, and it's exactly what I needed to hear. I've been living in this liminal space between what was and what will be since the pandemic, like I stalled out and never got it moving again. I think I didn't watch any Wes Anderson movies after Darjeeling Limited, so I'm gonna give it a watch when I have time to sit and pay attention to it properly. Thanks for this perspective, it's really quite wise and a great analysis
I’m realizing that I don’t grow out of the kids table- I didn’t fit in the simple space anymore. The chair was too small for me, the table too tiny, my siblings and cousins too focused on the most basic joys to realize we’re alive and there’s problems to be fixed. I was 16 then- I’m 23 now and I realize that all those years trying to find topics to talk about at the “adult” table weren’t wasted- I spent them growing out of the kids table. I became a better fit for the adult table and with time- I’ll be a better fit for myself. Thank you for this video
Genuinely why would you want to be part of the kids table??? Being a child is just being existentially raped over and over again until your strong enough to defend yourself
woah. killer video, bro. keep this positive outlook on person growth as you develop your creative style. i can’t wait to see what you do next. no matter what it is. fantastic🦊 job!
Thats so so kind of you, thanks! I think making this helped me find that positivity with my relationship to growing up/growth and I'm so glad it seems to be resonating with others too
@@NapoleonVIINapmuch needed and appreciated positivity. In this kalyug, I and many have become doomers or dissociated but stuff like this helps us to feel beautiful and appreciate life again. :) It is bittersweet but we cling to hope.
The internet has caused quarter life crises among many early zoomers and late millenials. And each generation that succeeds them will be even more prevalent. Fantastic Mr. Fox came out at the right time for it to be nostalgic, and relevantly introspective for them. I hope late zoomers and early gen alpha has that movie for them.
not gonna lie, i kind of despise this youth-focused lense that shows up in so much media now. the fact that its only accelerating mid-life crisises for people in their 30s (STILL YOUNG !!!) is so stupid to me. where are my stories about parents who are still going on adventures with their kids? where are my stories about old people slaying dragons? your life does not END because time PASSES AND CHANGES YOU... theres still so much you can do with your time here. ty for the video
One thing thats really ineresting from my own family is that the kids table kind of just became "our table". "Our table" as in, it was me, my brother, and four of pur cousins. Younger family members born after us just sat at the long tables with everyone else. And those of us who sat at that table were close, we'd even walk to the park together, the older cousins babysitting the younger of us. It's been years since we had the kids table, mostly since my grandma can't do stairs anymore and so large reunions have stopped. I miss getting to meet up with my cousins and getting to go to the park in a loud rambumcious group. There's probably something profound to be found in this but I wanted to share it. Maybe it could just be me holding onto that younger me, after all I'm a brand new adult figuring stuff out for the first time. A lot has changed since I last sat at that table.
Had to stop the video bc almost started crying. I just turned 21 and think this is the year I’m no longer part of the little kids table and I didn’t even realize last year was my last year…
God why do you care? Children are annoying stupid troglodytes, people need to stop this culture of being a adult means your never allowed to ask for help or not know what to do, when your born into this world no one is looking out for you, the only difference now is that you've realized the fact that was always their, being a child is a traumatizing pointless battle created by your own helplessness, abuse and exploitation from lack of consent is inevitable. If I ever get my 3 wishes one of them would be to make childhood and children cease to exist, people are meant to be complete beings stop glamorizing the helpless larval state we are all forced to suffer through
idk if this will ever be read i don't leave comments usually but this felt like a really reflected video and i assume you grew a lot in the reacent past from the way you speak and the topics you mention, if im right or not seams irrelevent i just wanna say what ever your doing in life your doing well your grown in too a good human, you cant fake the way a reasonably just and adorning person speaks. go you
I don't like sitting at the adult table. My family is very political, and every conversation goes from "how are you?" To gossiping about that one relative that never comes, to political stuff. At the kids table it's like "what's your favorite movie?" To just kid stuff. I wish one day that I can go to the adult table with my generation and focus on stuff we like instead from the media.
i remember my dad showing me this movie for the first time when i was 5 or so and being terrified. not of the story, but just the stop-animation. when i was 11 or so i rewatched it and fell in love with it, i wasn’t scared anymore. it’s such a comfort movie for me and, frankly, started my love for wes anderson films. this video really made me realize why i love this movie so much and why it’s so comforting for me. it’s so simple but so impactful. i love it.
Wow, this was an amazing video, I love when youtubers actually bring new ideas to the table in video essays instead of just rehashing familiar truths as is so often the case. Hope your channel grows as big as it absolutely deserves to be!
words cannot express my love for this movie. so criminally underrated. there are few movies i flicker to when i seek comfort and this will always be my number one. i think i watch it monthly. it makes sense why it resonates so much with me, i struggle so fondly with accepting growing up & relate so closely to that feeling of indifference ash faces in particular. this is such a beautiful movie with beautiful animation and a resounding theme. i fucking love the fantastic mr fox. i hope wes anderson realizes how deeply people hold this movie to their hearts
This is exactly what has been on my mind as of late, and you managed to get it into words. I literally thought of the phrase quarter life crisis five minutes before you said it. I’m still embarrassingly petrified of leaving the kid’s table. Very, VERY good video.
It's been months since this video was uploaded but i always end up coming back every few months. I think I've seen this video 15 times over the course of 8 months and it's still just as comforting as the first time I'd watched it. Thank you.
An incredible video. The love and sheepishly admitted melodrama of your script gave your message a special significance - that this was not just a rehashing of the movies events, but instead that you spoke of what it meant *to you*. I have to imagine that writing the script was almost intimate in how honest it was, in how you put to words something that really resonated with not just me, but with everyone else singing it’s praises. Great work, really.
This video found me the day before my 18th birthday and I couldn’t be more thankful lately I’ve been stressed out because every adult I know constantly asks me what I want to do with the rest of my life and I have no idea this video makes me think that maybe figuring it out isn’t as scary as it’s made out to be thank you
Thank you, I just started my transition earlier this year and really needed to hear this. Please keep up the good work, very excited to see what you end up doing in the future ❤❤❤
Even though it’s mid- July right now I really needed to here this as I enter college and feel I really did learn to grow up over this summer after my high school graduation, I don’t usually comment on videos but this mean a lot to me right now.
i know you prob wont read this but thank you for making this video, today I just had my last shift at my highschool job to go work a more "real" job and I've been feeling the sense of losing my self but this has made me feel a little better, so thank you.
With talking about leaving the kids table, it feels like I've been aware that one day I'd have to do so from an incredibly young age. Toward the end of this year it's not even my choice to do so and being scared is an understatement. I believe your video has had it's intended effect, I now realize that maybe not the best days of my life have past and there's still more to come. I'm just not looking forward to those lows and the rather unfortunate reality that I've got to live. Well, maybe I'm not scared of growing up, but instead having to live my life. Thank you for making this video, clearly I and many others needed it...
Rarely do I end a video from a creator I’ve never seen before and just sit back and literally say to myself, “Wow, that was a great video.” But this one made me do just that. Your narrative voice is so unique in the TH-cam video essay game yet so incredibly familiar and warm and welcoming, not to mention the amazing thematic consistency that tied everything together in the end perfectly. Thank you for making this video, I’ll for sure watch whatever you make next.
Yeah, ever since my senior year of college I’ve been in denial about my situation. It’s been two years. The lockdown was just ending. Anyway, I imagined my life would be so different right now than it is. I blame that lost time for my current situation, for my dissatisfaction with my career for the my friendships I lost. But the losses of the past don't have to stop me from building new relationships and enjoying the progress I am making today. Comparison is the thief of joy, and I think that applies when comparing your own life to how it, “could have been,” except in so far as to take a lesson from personal mistakes, but in this case, there wasn’t a mistake. There was just tragedy. I ought to let that go and try take my life on its own terms.
This is a really really really good video. I'm not *necessarily* saying you should like entirely pivot the whole channel, but I just found you through this, and if you did more essays like it, I'd watch every single one.
Im not ready for this. I love you. This might sound dumb, but I’m so scared, this isn’t right. I should not be my age. It’s disgusting. I just want to lay down forever, cuddle someone and cry.
I’ve loved this movie since I was a kid. It’s one of my comfort movies and this perspective on it and growing up in general made me feel both comforted and emotional. There was never a formal “kids” table in my family around thanksgiving. It was the cousin table because me and my cousins were close in age. It’s still a thing even though my older cousins are in their early twenties, I’m 19, and the youngest cousin is now 12, we still have that table. Sure we’re still growing up, or considered grown up, but we’re still the same people we’ve known pretty much our entire lives just with more life experience. Or at least that’s how I view my family’s version of the kids table.
The note about the pandemic was really impactful for me. I never considered just how much it took from my youth until after it had passed. I barely remember those years now because I was so deep in the throes of depression during them, and only after recovering do I realize how much it impacted me. Thank you for making this. It makes me less afraid of growing up and losing something, because really, you're not losing anything, but evolving into something new.
On a more serious note, your message here really resonates with me and my experience. I feel like I've been living a midlife crisis for every day since I had to watch my dad die when I was 10. There's a lot to unpack there obviously and i never got any mental care because my mom was too busy working to properly care for or raise my sister and I. I can't help but feel like my story isn't even all that special, so many kids just fall between the cracks and are left feeling like this and it's very profoundly sad.
I'm sorry for your loss, however long its been I'm sure it still weighs on ya. Life can be a lot sometimes, and you're right tragedy can strike and throw everything 'off course' so to speak from what we feel it ought to have been. I hope you're doin well, and know theres still lots of life to be lived
@@NapoleonVIINap sometimes it feels like I fell off the tracks and just never got set back on them, but I'm happy with who I am and I don't think I'd be the person I am without having lived the life I've lived. I'm excited for the future which wasn't always the case. I sometimes wish I had a clearer idea for how to get there, but until then I'm just going to keep practicing my craft and learning everything there is for me to learn, I'm lucky to live in a circumstance where spinning my wheels doesn't necessarily mean feeling stuck.
As a kid who was thrown into the world pretty much completely unprepared, It became really hard for me to move on from my past traumas, and who I used to be. Over this past year I’ve changed so much but was scared of it for so long. Just recently I’ve come into my own and well, finally have started to let go. I feel like, well, myself. Not that lonely sad trapped kid who had family issues. Because well, my family has changed too. It was just hard for me to see it. There’s still a long road ahead of me and today for the first time I finally felt like my age. It feels good. Sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith. More like if you don’t the world will shove you off the cliff anyway so you better figure out how to at least keep your head above water. Point is don’t be afraid. Live your life. Become who you want to be. Not who you were.
very much enjoyed and I think its more than the fact that fantastic mr fox is a movie that holds a very very special place in my heart. I think your description of the transitional where you figure out your place in the world is underfunded, and exactly the sorta topic that I want to listen to right now. I might be just a college freshman, but I enjoy knowing what to expect and I'm am thankful for analysis such as these. idk if anything I wrote made sence, but overall great video!
Almost everyone in the comments nailed what I feel about this video. Still, I will say that this video essay put a big smile on my face throughout the whole video (trust me, that seems to be becoming more of a rarity as time passes by.) You should be proud of this "weirder" video; it's a novel one from a unique perspective. I hope you have a Fantastic Thanksgiving and that this helps you graduate from the "TH-cam Kids Table."
I always love seeing someone say "this isn't my usual content but it's something I wanted to make" and they're rewarded for it.
problem with that is the algorithm doesnt recommend their usual content and it still stays under the rug
@@atlasdude. Always, All these amazing channels with under 30k views.
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We don't talk about this film enough. I think, that since this is a "family" film, it might have flopped cause when I saw the movie posters, I found the models to be scary. I was young then, and my older cousin insisted we watch it together when she got the DVD. I miss those days, at the kids table, with my cousins. At a grandparent's house I will never get to be at again.
This video brought me comfort. Thank you.
Sounds like some great memories. I definitely agree the movie was probably difficult to market, it came out the same time as that 'Where the Wild Things Are' movie, and I think both had this sort of "who was this made for" feel that lead them to financially flop but boy is it a gem
@@NapoleonVIINap 4:21 Hi what is this from, Where was this shown? ;3
Oh its actually super neat, the 2009 Oscars for animation had a little 'pre-recorded message' by each of the "nominees" so Mr. Fox, Russel from Up, etc all gave a quick little message to the academy thanking them for their nomination. It's cute and I wish they still did it @@onojioboardwalk9748
@@NapoleonVIINap :> Aw nice! I will look that up. Its like missing dvd-footage..
@@NapoleonVIINap .. Yknow i just found 3 versions of those on youtube from that event. One of them even plays the 'Wolf' theme as the oscar 'Music.' >)
This video is super comforting to me tbh. I've been scared of growing up, but now it doesn't sound so bad.
Aw man I'm glad to hear that. I went into making this cause I think I get into my own head a lot about it, its really nice to see all the ppl who seem to have felt similar. And I agree, it doesn't sound so bad in the end :)
@@NapoleonVIINapsharing is caring! We are a family of emotions and experiences. We are at the table of ideas, enjoying the potluck that we have brought to each other. In this parasocial case, your dish being the centerpiece that we appreciate.
it did the opposite to me, glad you've accepted it though
Don't be fooled, being an adult is really scary. Its also really fun and rewording, as long as you don't let your fear control you :)
Buddy let me tell you. Being grown up isn't easy and yeah it has lots of woes. But being able to say, do, shop, think, eat, go, wherever you want? Being able to trade your energy and time, even at a place you possibly hate, for at least money and experience, is galaxies way better than being forced to against your will be stuck for 5 days a whole week unpaid in a place that is boring and miserable where you get bullied or have to worry about grades and learning things that are mostly useless and being valued as a human being for how well you always fall in line or just shut up and repeat back what is already known a hundred times. Nobody for the most part likes doing adult work but the cool thing about it is, not only can you choose it, when someone mistreats you you can actively pursue legal Justice, or at least just quit the job, without any legal consequences about it. You can forgo jobs and be an entrepreneur or just sit on your butt at home all day and rely on a sugar daddy, or welfare, or good friends help... it doesn't matter...no one at the end ultimately can tell you who to really be or why you should do something without your consent first. There is no fixed destiny for any of us and when you're a kid you have to be ground to a pulp trying to figure that out and that pressure is driving everyone mad in their teenage years. But when you're an adult you realize I could just turn this car around and go wherever *I* want, whenever I want, if I really have to and I have all the means to. Unlike when you're young you don't honestly need to demand of yourself anything beyond what personally keeps you alive and satisfies you. When you grow up, you you don't give a crap about "cringe." You don't have to care if you choose not to what the neighbors say or the other adults say. I mean you can but unlike School you aren't usually forced into situations against your will to be round others who judge you. Having freedom is more important than anything. Appreciate it whenever you get there instead of dreading the future or wallowing in the past.
This metaphor of leaving the kids table hits in such a hard way for me. We used to have a kids table every thanksgiving, and I remember being 8 and desperately wanting to sit with the grown ups. A year later, my grandma passed, and we couldn’t having thanksgiving at her house anymore because of it. We no longer had a kids table anymore because the new house we hosted it at couldn’t fit one. I remember sitting at the adults table for the first time that year. I should have felt excited to finally have moved up, but it was cold and empty and sad without my grandma there and everyone felt it. I wish I could go back to the kids table. I’m sitting here, 18, and I feel like I’ve missed out on all of my life so far because of tragedy. I feel like I didn’t get any time at that safe place of the kids table, and I’m frustrated because it’s not fair and I’m never going to get those years back. I’m so hopelessly upset about what I’ve lost.
this sounds like a great college essay thesis
You have all right to feel hopeless. Loss is something that becomes familiar with age. Please know that grieving is necessary to move on. Don't look back with regret rather everything she did for you. Bringing everyone together not just during thanksgiving, but as a family. Someone who has been there since the beginning building the family you have now, while leaving the best parts behind; you. Her legacy is you. Don't think she is gone, no- "live with the life of two". Live your life not just for yourself rather for her as well. Be more not just for yourself, but for those around you. It's what she would want. I can say it gets better, but it's up to you on if it does. Wish you nothing but the best, much love and take care.
@@400trees Thank you, this really means a lot
ure 18 lmfao. ure a kid still
@@kdjdjsj3645 do you remember how scary that was? do you remember the adults telling you you were just a kid still? how meaningless your words felt when they were dismissed as something childish? the feelings you feel your entire life are real. whether youre 10, 18, 20, 40, or 100 your experiences are yours and they matter. they shape you as a human being, they shape the memories you look back on, they shape the person you will be in the future. 18 is relatively young in the grand scope of things but 18 is what we call an adult in america. 18 is your approach into "real" life and your departure from that comforting idea of childhood. everyones pushing you to grow up, and youre pushing yourself to grow up, and you dont really know what to expect looking forward, just what people tell you. being 18 is terrifying, and i say this as a person a decent bit past those years. you can say "grow up" but rather i think we should encourage being young. doing the things that make you happy, doing the things you feel are right, and as you stumble your way through those rough years youll learn the right things to do, learn from mistakes, learn who you are and who youve always been. 18 is still a kid maybe, but what stops 30 from still being a kid in the eyes of a 60 year old? an older person can look back and think "oh how naive" at a man with a wife and kids and a 6 figure salary. dont ever forget the perspective of other people, or the perspective you yourself had at your own stages in life.
Two things:
Mrs. Fox changing from lightning storms to tornadoes makes more sense if the paintings represent how she views her husband
All the Animals having American accents and all the humans having British accents is always going to be funny to me. England is the perfect punching bag, especially as a foil to America
...for..?
@@stellap-m4345 you know (I forgot to add the rest)
Especially since Roald Dahl is welsh.
@@littlefox7694 Though he was born to Norwegian immigrant parents, and lived most of his life in England (though he did live in the US and a couple of African colonies as well). In terms of being Welsh, he was born there and spent his early childhood there, but that's as far as it goes.
Which is especially amusing since the film was made in the UK. MacKinnon and Saunders, based in Altrincham, made the puppets and the whole thing was filmed in a studio in London. The US involvement is the majority of the voice cast, 2/3rds of the production companies, and the distributor (so basically the talent and the money!).
Fantastic Mr. Fox is one of my favourite movies ever, ever since I saw it for the first time as a kid. There's something so warm, wistful and real yet conforting about the themes and the characters. I have never seen such a splendid piece of media such as this movie.
The slowed down "stay with me" with these themes being discussed hits so spirtually deep
I really love animation of nearly every kind, and the direction and VA were incredible, not to mention the story. One of my favorite movies too
I am somebody who has never celebrated a Thanksgiving but I am having difficulty in "leaving the kids table". I became 18 years old this month and have felt anxious about it ever since. My entire life Ive heard nothing but bad about growing up whether it be online or offline, not a single positive opinion about it. Seeing you talk about this movie and how you also felt this way made me feel relief.
This is something I experienced too, though I'm 30. I don't remember a single cartoon, TV show, etc that portrayed adulthood as something good. We even had Codename: Kids Next Door, which basically had that as its entire premise. I don't know how much of that was just the tropes typical to kids media (any setting with competent, responsible adults is one where kid heroes won't be going on adventures) and how much was propaganda. Thankfully, it worked out eventually, mostly because I found Lord Jesus. I'll Pray for you.
I got very similar feelings around the time i was 16-17. I realised my childhood was over and very soon what people and society expected from me was going to change very very drastically. I'm 24 now, it's not too bad, being broke sucks, realising University doesn't help as much as I thought it would sucks, but I would absolutely not ever go back to being a teenager. I would advise ignoring anything people online say about "if you're not X by the time you're Y age what are you doing", and you'll have a much better time in adulthood
Growing up is amazing. If you had a great childhood you get the opportunity to pay it back to your parents while also going on solo adventures. If you had an awful childhood you get to escape and feel safe for possibly the first time in your life. I don’t know whose been smack talking adulthood to you but it’s amazing. 🎉
@@mommalion7028But at the same time, as someone who just started college, I do think I'm worse off with each new responsibility I have to juggle than I was before. Maybe it's because I'm still new to being an adult, but I can't say I agree about growing up being amazing, especially the last year or so since once I hit adult age I got slammed with way too many responsibilitiies at once. I feel like I don't have time to do the things I did in my free time after normal school, like experimenting with sewing and baking. So honestly I see why so many people say bad things about it, and I agree with them.
Growing up is hard. I won't delude you. But, if you can face it bravely and give it your best, it is worth it. You will have many more responsibilities, but also more freedom. With that freedom, of course, comes danger, and it is difficult to decide where to go or what to do. Just do your best to enjoy meeting people and learning things anyone the way. Good luck, and may God bless you.
The animated flair of _Fantastic Mr. Fox_ sure adds something to the feel of this video. You’re listening to this deep and wistful character analysis, and then every two minutes the characters in question will perform some action in the goofiest-looking way humanly imaginable
I love this movie
The best kids films are usually questionably appropriate for kids. Leave kids to their own devices and they will often naturally gravitate towards themes and images that are "too grown up for them".
I know that the stories from my childhood that I remember most fondly, and still revisit often, are not things i was allowed to watch. Or at least I was not encouraged to watch them.
Most of the stuff my grandparents thought was appropriate for me is nauseatingly, patronisingly sweet and simple. I swear that stuff is actually bad for early development.
Oh yeah. For me that was the movie 9. I saw it when I was 7 or 8 I think. It terrified me, gave me nightmares for awhile but it shaped so many of my views today and I'm glad for it
yes actually, about your comment about the sickingly sweet child movies. the sad truth is that studies have shown that they are bad for kids :(
turns out their simplicity is part of the probelm. children need to use their brains, as we humans actually learn a lot of how to live from context. we literally copy what we see and our inner world is built off of what we experience, movies and shows included. children's brains on children's media just don't grow very quickly, sometimes even becoming stunted and the lessons they learn don't coincide with reality, which puts them into existential crisis later in life.
turns out, watered down "adult" media, is better for children (the stuff we tend to be drawn to as kids), since it replicates watching adults do adult things. if children media simply became more realistic, the sweetness wouldn't harm them one bit, but as it stands, we teach them to be little "lost boys" through our movies and shows.
i was just wondering why a lot of kids shows have some really crazy stuff in them. ones i can think of rn are stuff like courage the cowardly dog, gumball, adventure time, maybe fairly oddparents etc etc. im pretty sure most of these are more for tweens(??) than super young kids so that explains some of it, but like theres so much dark and weird stuff in these shows and kinda i understand why now!
im not sure some of the stuff in THESE specifically would be good for kids necessarily, but i remember them a lot more than other kids shows. i recently watched that new fairly oddparents series, and the main character tried to end her own life in one episode??? like is that allowed? theres MULTIPLE episodes where i thought "wow if i was a kid watching this i would have ran out of the room"
This is one of my favorite movies by far. I related a lot to Mr. Fox in feeling the need to be a loud, witty, good-at-everything individual who always says the toast. Throughout the movie and especially at the beginning, I think it's telling how Mr. Fox gives a lot of compliments or encouragement to people that isn't exactly insincere, and he definitely means it as much as he's able to, but they really just serve to keep him in the spotlight. It isn't completely selfish, but it is only as selfless as a mature child is capable of. Adults are called to a greater kind of selflessness. I think about how when I was a kid, I would rarely in a lucid moment realize how incredible it was that my dad could find the will to repair something in the house that wasn't going to break in the next day, week, or maybe even in a year, wasn't going to be noticed by anyone else, but still just needed fixing. I didn't think I'd ever be able to do that. I've recently started to grow just a little bit of those kinds of adult habits and mindset and realized that it is way more fantastic than the superficial, unsustainable good-at-everythingedness that I centered my identity around before. It is strength, and adults need to have that strength, especially parents. You're spot on that the media has adopted a message of "never grow up" that maybe wasn't originally meant to be so extreme, but has come to mean that one ought to stay exactly as a child in every aspect, and has given us a disregard for older generations and a discontentment at the notion of taking any traits from them. We need to hear that we have a responsibility to grow up, that it is inevitable, and that it is okay, and even good, to do it well.
good insight, i didnt even watch the video yet, but this was a profound reflection worth reading
The timing of this video is remarkable. My university film club is literally playing fantastic mr fox tomorrow (shoutout UBC). I needed to hear this, I’m 24 and I feel so old compared to my other classmates. After taking a couple gap years when my grades plummeted during the pandemic, it feels like I’ve lost those crucial years of my life. All year I’ve struggled with feeling that I don’t belong or that I’m too far gone. Definitely gonna view this film through this lens tomorrow.
You should be proud of yourself for pursuing your dreams at any age! Congrats on being in college, that's awesome.
God Bless! We really weren't prepared well, were we? The last few generations (I'd say Gen X, Gen Y and Millennials especially) have been failed pretty badly by the system. Still, try not to pay attention to that feeling, it's not true. Jesus loves you no matter how well or poorly your youth was spent, and loving Him back is what will matter in the end, when all other things fade away.
Hey man, as somebody who still wishes that he just took a few gap years during the pandemic, good on you. You did what was best for yourself at the time. Hope you had a good time at the showing.
amen, brother.
I'm 34 and feel I've blown it, but I know 44 year Olds, 54 year Olds, 64 year Olds who turn their lives around. You're never going to feel finished, if we were ever satisfied we wouldn't have buildings government, internet, penicillin. Congratulations, you're on the very cusp of your pre frontal cortex being fully developed and that is a game changer. Have fun.
Hey dude, I have also noticed that this video is doing really well and I just wanted to say that: You deserve this. this isn't a fluke or the algorithm blessing you, no, this is a deserved W for your continual hard work making videos. This video was well crafted, fresh and engaging, theres a reason its this one blowing up. You smashed it dude, enjoy it, because you deserve it.
PS I really liked the video and have subscribed :)
Thats really really kind of you to say, I appreciate it. I had a great time making this video so I'm thrilled so many others seem to be connecting with it. Thanks so much
I'm 29 and I'm still waiting for my life to start.
nobody's going to start your life for you and all that time will pass whether you're living it meaningfully or not x
I heard this story about a fish. He swims up to this older fish and says, "I'm trying to find this thing they call the ocean."
"The ocean?" says the older fish. "That's what you're in right now."
"This?" says the young fish. "This is water. What I want is the ocean."
The time will pass anyways
@@JimTheCurator that’s true but fucking gay lol
Fist bump for the hamtaro pic
I know other people have said it but this is absolutely and criminally underrated. The level of introspection that you reach is very real and absolutely a quote unquote fantastic take on my favorite movie. I got a little misty eyed hearing the intricacies of how it is ok to develop and grow with time. Definitely not a message that is commonly spread, especially in the way that Fantastic Mr Fox is able to represent.
When writing, you can just quotes, a "fantastic" take. You don't need to write "quote unquote", that's the purpose of the punctuation.
Thank You, @@jordank5328 I was aware of that. However, in the movie he says aloud “quote unquote” and I figured I would reference it in that way
@@aquaz_1895 Don't worry, I got the reference right away. 👌
Perfectly said, fall into who you are. We are always changing, and growing. Some of us continue to grow, some of us do not.
Thank you, I needed to hear this. When I got married, I moved off the mainland to my wife's island town. I just welcomed my first child into the world and it's hitting me just how much of my past dreams and expectations I'm having to let go of. I always pictured raising my son close by to friends and family that are now far away and working on creative projects together with them. Thank you for the reminder that it's ok to move on. To build a future for my loved ones rather than trying to reclaim the past. Thank you.
the title itself comforted me so much. I’m kinda at a crossroads where I’m considered an adult in my family because of maturity during a family tragedy but I wasn’t ready to grow up this fast. I’m only 17 I thought it wouldn’t happen this fact and I sit with the adults now and it’s just so disorienting. I’m so scared of being older thank you for making this
As someone who's twice you age, I can't tell you that we're never ready to grow up. Accepting that is part of growing up. If you only act when you're absolutely ready, I assure you that you're gonna end up missing things out. I speak from experience.
I’m afraid to accept that I’ve grown up because so many things I wanted to have happen when I was still a kid didn’t
But hanging out in this limbo state forever isn’t bringing any of those lost opportunities back, it’s just making me less receptive and available to the opportunities that exist for adults
recently my brother went off to college. and now, since he’s i guess “properly grown up” because he moved out and everything, he sits at the adults table. it’s really strange at the kids table now without him. any holiday i’ve been to i’ve sat near him and now that he’s not there anymore it’s like there’s a void that begs to be filled. don’t get me wrong, i’m glad he’s grown up and doing his own thing, but a part of me will always miss when it was just us and our cousins at the kids table. him moving and growing up marks a big moment in my life where i need to adjust to not having him there anymore, and that’s scary to think because i’m not sure how i should feel about it. part of me wants to grieve that he’s not here all the time anymore, part of me wants to feel relieved i don’t have another person bugging me every day, and part of me wants to stop time and keep everything the same because change is scary, but part of me accepts change must happen and being scared is normal, as is growing up and leaving the kids table, but yet another part of me will always yearn for what once was, just us and our cousins in the ever growing and changing kids table
I teared up a little bit… I’m 26 now and people started making fun of my age by 24. I’m not afraid to be old I’m afraid of how people will treat me when I am. When I no longer have any visual use for them.. or I haven’t accomplished getting a good job.
I'm going to be honest, you're going to look back at this thought 5, 10, 20 years from now and think it's REALLY funny you felt old in your 20s. When you're 45 you'll think it's funny you felt old in your 30s. It keeps going. Just enjoy your youth and do what you can.
Charismatic, casual, with this soft hit of tongue in cheek self aware humor that flows so naturally. Gem.
Havent liked, commented, and subscribed to a random rec this fast in a minute. Keep it up homie :)
Oh man careful with the compliments, you'll give me a big head 😅 Thats super kind of you though, I'm glad you enjoyed it I had a great time making it!
Shocked to see this channel only has 1.5k subs, you've got a great voice for video essay content. Hope this channel gets the recognition it deserves.
I was at 960 before this video... its def been a crazy 2 days with this video😅 But thanks thats kind of ya to say
@NapoleonVIINap bro I watched it the first time when you were still there. Congrats. This was perfect and may go down the movie review hall of fame.
i’m 23 turning 24 this year and i’m still struggling with growing up. this really helped
This video brought me to tears. It very much resonated with me emotionally.
I turned eighteen 11 months ago and I've been catching myself reminiscing about my last couple of summers and the time I've spent with friends and how life was easier because i had a kind of continuity to this experience. Now the end of my high school career looms above me as I prepare myself for my final exams and eventually college.
My wish to keep my inner child as I grew older and now officially into adulthood grew more and more, and I felt repressed time and time again after realizing how my expectations and those of others for me to mature would keep me away from this wish for the foreseeable future. This video kind of broadened my horizons and allowed me to reflect on myself in a different light.
Last time I watched this movie was about ten years ago and I totally didn't get any of it because I was too young, so I plan on revisiting it now that I have a better understanding of its themes and story
i already watched some of your older video essays and this one is by far the best one, keep up the good work :>
"the immature obsession with what was or what happened in the past will always keep you sat at the kids table."
fuck man i really needed to hear that today, with the fact that my past and people from my past keep turning up to try and ruin what's going on in my life and stomp out the flame i have pushing me forward with my passions, it's nice to hear from a random video on youtube that i'm not going crazy, and to hear the same sort of advice repeated from another source. thank you, genuinely.
i think something else to note is that we as people have a tendency of adhering to one of two things. either a.) we're still at the kid's table because we think it's where we belong or b.) we're sat at the adult's table before we were fully ready to do so. in regards to point a, i think, especially in this day and age, there are people who don't wan't to leave the kids table because they don't feel like they know what they're doing. they don't feel "adult enough" so to speak, therefore holding them back from growing and moving forward in their lives. i've seen people say that they're in their late 20's, early 30's (and beyond) who say that they don't know what they're doing and being an adult is something that's hard to navigate. whether they have a support system or not i think plays a major role in that, but even if you do have a support system, and you don't have everything handed to you, there are still hard lessons to learn that come alongside growing up. as for my second point, once again, in this day and age, there seems to be pressure on kid's. that they, because of social media, or idolizing celebrities, or putting their older siblings up on a pedestal sets a precedent for kids to grow up or mature in a way that they shouldn't have to until years down the line. coming from someone who understands both of these points, it's weird! i am simultaneously the kid who grew up too fast AND the kid who feels like they don't know what they're doing. this movie has always struck a chord with me, ever since i watched it as a kid, and it still strikes that same chord in me today. i just have the vocabulary to actually put my thoughts down into words now. (sorry not sorry for the rant, i'm an english major who loves this movie and felt the need to say my peace.)
Very well said. Identity is just something we all have to grapple with, at every stage of life. Not just because with time our situations change, but because we will also change. Leaving the kids table and the movie really outline how much weight other peoples perception has on our identity, and whether we accept our changes.
Kinda fitting I get this video recommended to me on a day when the pinched nerve in my back is acting up and I feel all kinds of depressed about not being who I used to be. It's a great and honest analysis of one of the most misunderstood and underappreciated movies.
I needed this… I’m 26 and quite literally still sit at the kids’ table during the holidays. It feels like time is slipping away and I’m not doing enough.
Hi, I'm from Brazil and I can guarantee that thanksgiving is rarely celebrated in Brazil, it's more like just a thing to see and say like " oh cool American stuff"
I'm a simple marsupial. I see fantastic Mr. Fox and I click like. This was the last kids movie that rocked my socks. Still love it just as much as an adult. The score is just lovely, and the song they dance to in the supermarket, let her dance by the Bobby Fuller four is the first song I ever tabbed out by ear on guitar. Planning on watching it with my friends on discord sometime this holiday season
Im 3 months into my transition, this made me shed a tear. this is beautiful
Congratulations!! thats awesome I hope you're doing well with your transitioning thats a big step and I wish you the most happiness with it
I needed to hear that, I became 31, felt I never became a succesful artist and became depressed over it. Social media does tell me that my life is over and that I'm no longer relevant, especially as a creator.
I just watched Fantastic Mr. Fox yesterday and today this popped up in my recommended. I’ve had a hard time dealing with the transition to college, my fears for the future and regretting opportunities I feel that I missed. This video was a comfort to me and I’m sure to a lot of other people. Thank you. :)
Its kind of crazy that this video felt like a nice little therapy session for me. I love this movie, and I never really looked this deep into it. Personally I have this subconscious feeling that being a person in a state of change is seriously looked down upon. Its "embarrassing" that last year I looked and acted different than I did this year. Even positive changes get mixed up in that fear of being seen as different. But this analysis genuinely had me re-thinking this whole messed up mentality I have, and how aging and changing is very natural and a good thing for people to do. Theres a reason we all tend to cringe a little at our old self yk?
Really loved this video! Your speaking style and writing is great.
I love analyzing how different characters reflect each other and I think your concept of "leaving the kids table" fits just perfect. I didn't really grasp what you meant by that until I took a look at the Fox family and how their relationships influence each other.
When you look at Mr. Fox he really is grasping at something that he used to be, unable to move on it. This is reflected in the frustrated and un-targeted fury and energy that his son has! The disposition of not impressing his dad comes off to me as a reflection of Mr. Fox's inability to impress himself. Christopherson on the other hand, comes off as achieving effortlessly, which Mr. Fox would like to see as a reflection of himself, but really seems to me like it is a reflection of who he wishes he was, like in the "old days". This is reiterated by Christopherson not actually having any goal or direction of his own, painting him as a drawn bow with nothing to aim at. I'd like to think the good vibes and focus of the context keep him from actually aiming backwards and I feel like that keeps the movie Chrisp, fresh, and lighthearted!
I also really like to think of how the fox boys reflect Mr. Fox when you take Ms. Fox's perspective into account. She already knows what Mr. Fox is capable of and what he has achieved, and though she wants him to succeed she sees the danger and potentially ego based decisions that fuel his actions. This in my opinion makes him come off as younger or immature, which to me is how Mr. Fox sees his son earlier in the movie.
The entire fox family's evolution through the movie is very interesting and I found it fascinating to look at the son as this vase of unbridled energy and potential trying to discover itself as how one might view Mr. Fox as "needing to leave the kid's table".
Thanks so much for this awesome video. This movie is an absolute delight to watch and your video and commentary did it so much justice. Will definitely be subscribing :)
This video is perfect timing for me because I've been thinking about the struggles of growing up a lot lately. I'm in my mid 20s and I still feel like a child in so many ways, I want to grow up so bad but I'm afraid at the same time and with so so many obstacles. I'm certain a lot of people feel the same way I do so best of luck to everyone, I'm definitely gonna try my best to grow up into someone I want to be. Love Fantastic Mr. Fox and great video btw
I really needed this. Recently I've been struggling with the idea of growing up. I've had numerous conversations with friends about how if I could turn back time I would, and how things aren't what they used to be. When we were younger, we all dreamed of what life would be like when we got older. We *wanted* to leave the kids table so bad. But now that it's coming to the time where we really are, I think we all lost that eagerness to see what life will be like once we grow up. To see how we change and grow as a person. This video helped with bringing that eagerness back for me. Love that people are still analyzing Fantastic Mr. Fox, such a great film.
Fear of change is normal and natural but for me the idea of never maturing out remaining a kid forever scares me just as much the fact that I'm 20 and still spend more time on my hobbies than I do working is one of the scariest things to me
Nah, I'd say it's fine. Work is important, and it can be quite fulfilling, but ultimately work is something we do for survival in society. The least well adjusted people I ever met working were the ones who worked so much that it became a central part of their identity. No interests, no hobbies, no ability to simply socialize. My advice? Do your best at work, don't slack off, but understand that you have a set amount of work hours. Don't be scared to spend more time on your interests and your life than on work. Specially if you're an employee, not a business owner.
@@eeyuup well said
In Korea, there is a similar holiday called Chuseok. Since the 1980s, there has been a trend of giving more food to the head of the household. When the kids finish eating, they help wash the dishes, and the adults gather together, well... they just gather together. It was like an unwritten rule. Giving someone a meal was a sign of respect for the members who went to work and earned their living expenses. Of course, there was old-fashioned discrimination at the time, so there were some families who misunderstood this unwritten rule and selfishly thought that they should receive more food. This is an unwritten rule that has no meaning in today's Korean society, but at the time, it was a common sight as most families lived together with five or more people.
And the most important thing about the table at that time was my father's seat. The meat is always placed closest to where the father sits, and no one sits in his seat. At the time, there was a patriarchal atmosphere, and there was also an unwritten rule created for mothers to respect or affection their husbands. Of course, because this era had many discriminatory ideas, there were also selfish fathers who twisted this and thought that women should treat men better.
What I'm saying is that it was a time when you had to be nervous about something definite: truly becoming an adult and taking on a position of responsibility for someone else. Everyone has a role. However, I don't mean to make a stupid statement that everyone should give up their dreams for the sake of a family. This means that the responsibility that everyone has when they become adults is not something that is created overnight. Everyone gives up something to make money as a factory worker or to go to Germany or America. It was a very dark time, but that is why the etiquette of respect for members who made such efforts was later developed.
As Korea enters a serious aging society, the older generation is trying to harshly squeeze out the remaining young generation through the system, and instead of laying the foundation for the next older generation, they are only creating a welfare system for the current older generation, fighting against time and waiting for the future. There is a fight going on. However, at the same time, the younger generation who are becoming adults also have many problems. They are notorious for committing crimes as teenagers with little or no legal punishment, and in their 20s, they give birth to children without thinking and abandon them, making them the number one exporter of orphans. Most of those who desperately need change accept it too indiscriminately and easily judge each other in black and white terms, leading to feminism or extremism.
I'm afraid to imagine what that table will look like when we grow up in this irresponsible, biting, twisted state and sit in the adult's seat, the father's seat. But the thing that scares me the most is that I will be sitting in my father's chair and no one will be there during Chuseok (a holiday similar to Thanksgiving in the United States) where the family gathers. Friends, relatives, and even my mother. But as time passes, this world just prepares to accept it.
I don't know what to do with this reality where I have nowhere to lean on and the noise around me is only getting louder. Just be prepared to accept it..
i dont care that this video is 8 months old i fucking love fantastic mr fox and video essays tysm
we dont celebrate thanksgiving here, but this video still somehow feels nostalgic and thats real talent since ive never even gotten close to a thanksgibing meal
The TH-cam algorithm must be listening because my family watches this movie for Thanksgiving every year. :)
I haven't finished the video yet but it's already resonating with me.
It's a movie that feels very comforting in a "None of us have this whole adult/life thing figured out but at least we're together." I have been looking forward to it more this year because I've just gotten my first real adult job and will be moving out soon. It's been hard grappling with the very strong "end of childhood-ness" feeling of it.
Thank you for this video ❤
I’ve been spiraling lately. A DUI, a bad relationship, and crippling depression. I’m scared every day and I have little hope. This video was bittersweet to me and it helped me change my perspective a little. Thank you
I hope your okay, God bless
hope ur doing good man 😊
i dont think ill be able to uninternalized these beliefs for a while but this was very helpful, thank you
Weird to focus on but i appreciate the retrowave/city pop in the background. I always thought that kind of music was perfect for this sort of whistful but introspective look into our inner selves. Like a soft breeze blowing past you at sunset, the volitile mixture of emotions in you gets shaken loose by that odd half remembered feeling of hearing music just like this some time long ago. Or im nuts. Great vid, thanks for doing it!
Was always obsessed with this movie as a kid and still am it’s beautiful
The Totoro music in the background hits the nail on the head. The faint background made my ears perk up and instilled this warm childhood feeling in my chest that Ghibli movies encompass - all the while you're talking about how we must accept and cherish our childhood selves, whilst still detaching & growing from them. at 18 I am no adult, but this still put a smile on my face :)
Wow...
This movie has been in my top 10 of all time since the first time I watched it in 2010 (yeah, I was late to the party like everyone else), and every time I watch it I find something else to appreciate. This analysis took most of what I already understood about the story (on the surface maybe) and put it all back together in such a profound way. I never really thought about why it resonated with me so much, and still does, but now I think the fact that I'm almost 35 and still haven't quite figured out who I am is a big part of it.
Thank you for this. I have so many conflicting emotions right now. A like and subscribe well earned, friend.
It’s crazy that this video got to me before my last Thanksgiving while in High school. Struggling on the thought of what’ll mean to finally grow up, being an adult and this current year already flying by and being scared of not enjoying the last bit of “childhood” and grasping at something that isn’t there. A feeling. The feeling of child like wonderment that was only there when it need it to be. Growing up for me is realizing it’s ok that I won’t feel that anymore or in reality that it’s gonna look and feel different…and that’s ok. Hope that makes sense :)
Also really get the having a mid life crisis since age 10😭
Fun fact. Canada's Thanksgiving is actually in October, and it is its completely own thing that can be traced back before American Thanksgiving (1621 vs 1578).
I never really comment on videos, but I recently watched this film and your video hit some cord in my head regarding growing old. I lost half my time at university due to the pandemic and felt robbed of what I was told should be your “best years”, thrown into adulthood and the inevitable responsibility that comes with it. I’m 24 now and this video and the idea of leaving the kids table (even though I don’t celebrate thanksgiving lol) and being scared of that has helped me accept that it’s ok to grow older just that little bit more. Awesome video essay man!
Noticed the tasteful addition of "stay with me (slowed)" in the background.
This video hits well. The moment I left the kids table, the moment I decided to really take control of my life for myself and no one else, was when I started my transition. Transitioning in my mid/late 20s has been interesting, because according to some I'm so lucky and early and to others I might as well not bother because I'm too old. And going home as a different gender, as a different person, was one of the fears that kept me in the closet for so many years. I wasn't able to hide that I'd changed, that I was making decisions purely for myself, that I disregarded what some of them taught and I'm happier for it. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I just find transitioning an interesting compliment to a lot of the themes you touched on about growing up and changing, holding on to yourself while embracing new circumstance to make your life better.
Earned a subscription on this discussion of middle-age as expressed through a stop-motion movie I've never watched.
The folly of youth is thinking the best days are only ahead of us. The folly of age is thinking the best days are only behind us.
as someone who didnt get to transition but was rather thrown onto the adults table. covid, dropping out in year 10 and getting an apprenticeship (and the things that come with a full time job) plus having quite a high iq (not a good thing im constantly stressed and do have ADD), i still feel like a kid because the transition stage that usually happens never did, im a kid mentally in an adults body, and have mates that point it out, they like it but also understand the issues i have like lacking feelings, not because they arent there, but that i never knew they were feelings i could feel. i've accepted myself now but this movie when i first watched it and later now still hits home.
This is a nice video, and I'm taking the message to heart as I should. After high school I abhorred the idea of going to college, it was against who I was a student, but I'm going back now 3 years later as a very changed person, hoping to get my life on track - subject to that social media youth-is-wasted-on-the-young interpretation of getting my shit in order right away. It'll take time, and that's fine. That being said, I'm 22 and I want to briefly mention that when I turned 18 and "became an adult," my street had a block party a couple days later and I went and stayed for the whole party after all the kids left earlier in the night and at the end I already was like "yep, I'm an adult now" and subsequently stopped thinking about it, lmfao
it has been MONTHS since i ran across some REAL good story/philosophy/literature/writing content, so man am i glad i ran across this powerhouse of a video.
Fantastic Mr Fox has been my favorite film since I first saw it around 2012 and its nice to see its themes going to good use in the analysis of your proposed allegory of the story.
21:50 - can't overhear the wonderful yet so distant and quiet background music you chose "stay with meee" - "hah love that one... wait what was he saying now?"
I am so glad this video got this much attention, it definitely deserved it. I think you talked about this topic perfectly, as a person who has never really done thanksgiving/never really sat at the kids table, I think it explained to me really well what the feeling is like. I have always loved this film since I was kid (still have the dvd with me in my house haha), you really did it justice Nap and I thank you for this :)
INCREDIBLE!! I showed my wife this movie for the first time a few weeks ago and she loved it. It hit both of us that it's clearly a Thanksgiving movie. So much so, that we're taking it to her sister's house to watch with the family this Thanksgiving Day 2023.
On a separate note, I've been laid off twice in the past six months, so that's been making my inherent feeling of "provider doing what he loves for a job" more nebulous. All that to say, this movie was also somehow comforting in that feeling
Beautiful video my man. Thank you. I dont live life anymore, i consoom the products of the life of others.
Your vid brought me to tears by your words and my memories of this wonderful movie along with the years upon years i spent obsessed with roald dahl and all the changes i went through in that period.
Im certain this video is adding to me being ready to live again.
Im going to watch this film again tonight!
Love and blessings!
hell yeah
I don't really comment on videos but this really hit home for me. I first watched this film in the fall of my freshmen year of college, which for the conversation of this film makes it resonate with me all the more. Leaving to go to college is often a signifier of adulthood - you are out on your own and you are (mostly) taking care of yourself and you become (almost) fully responsible for yourself. I have watched this movie several times since but every time I watch I have always gravitated towards the character of Mr. Fox. I always see on media that they relate to Ash, but that never really, truly resonated with me. This video helped me realize why - I watched this in a moment where I was forced to grapple with growing up. Even now, two years later, I still do not think I am ready to leave the kid's table. I am, like you said, scared of growing up. Sure, at some point, I will move on just Mr. Fox does. But, like Mr. Fox, the passage of time is a deep fear that I have constantly, especially now that time seems to go even faster the older I get. I feel so encouraged after this video, thank you for your analysis!
this video is criminally underrated and i almost never comment below youtube videos but i felt the need to let you know just how much i thoroughly enjoyed the deep introspective monologues while watching scenes from a movie that i'd also overlooked as a kid but read the novel for. you reminded me of a bittersweet childhood that i feel more and more distant from with each passing day. and while i will not be flying back to see my family this year for thanksgiving, i somehow feel right at home watching this video. thank you for creating content in the way that you do. i'm glad i happened upon this video and your channel and i hope that there is more to come in the future
Somehow this popped up in my feed today, and it's exactly what I needed to hear. I've been living in this liminal space between what was and what will be since the pandemic, like I stalled out and never got it moving again. I think I didn't watch any Wes Anderson movies after Darjeeling Limited, so I'm gonna give it a watch when I have time to sit and pay attention to it properly. Thanks for this perspective, it's really quite wise and a great analysis
1:00 We're going back in time to the first Thanksgiving... to take turkeys off the menu.
I’m realizing that I don’t grow out of the kids table- I didn’t fit in the simple space anymore. The chair was too small for me, the table too tiny, my siblings and cousins too focused on the most basic joys to realize we’re alive and there’s problems to be fixed. I was 16 then- I’m 23 now and I realize that all those years trying to find topics to talk about at the “adult” table weren’t wasted- I spent them growing out of the kids table. I became a better fit for the adult table and with time- I’ll be a better fit for myself. Thank you for this video
Genuinely why would you want to be part of the kids table??? Being a child is just being existentially raped over and over again until your strong enough to defend yourself
@@Eat_shit--die_mad seems you have some major baggage to unpack, idk what to tell you
woah. killer video, bro. keep this positive outlook on person growth as you develop your creative style. i can’t wait to see what you do next. no matter what it is. fantastic🦊 job!
Thats so so kind of you, thanks! I think making this helped me find that positivity with my relationship to growing up/growth and I'm so glad it seems to be resonating with others too
@@NapoleonVIINapmuch needed and appreciated positivity. In this kalyug, I and many have become doomers or dissociated but stuff like this helps us to feel beautiful and appreciate life again. :)
It is bittersweet but we cling to hope.
The internet has caused quarter life crises among many early zoomers and late millenials. And each generation that succeeds them will be even more prevalent. Fantastic Mr. Fox came out at the right time for it to be nostalgic, and relevantly introspective for them. I hope late zoomers and early gen alpha has that movie for them.
not gonna lie, i kind of despise this youth-focused lense that shows up in so much media now. the fact that its only accelerating mid-life crisises for people in their 30s (STILL YOUNG !!!) is so stupid to me. where are my stories about parents who are still going on adventures with their kids? where are my stories about old people slaying dragons?
your life does not END because time PASSES AND CHANGES YOU... theres still so much you can do with your time here.
ty for the video
One thing thats really ineresting from my own family is that the kids table kind of just became "our table". "Our table" as in, it was me, my brother, and four of pur cousins. Younger family members born after us just sat at the long tables with everyone else. And those of us who sat at that table were close, we'd even walk to the park together, the older cousins babysitting the younger of us.
It's been years since we had the kids table, mostly since my grandma can't do stairs anymore and so large reunions have stopped. I miss getting to meet up with my cousins and getting to go to the park in a loud rambumcious group.
There's probably something profound to be found in this but I wanted to share it. Maybe it could just be me holding onto that younger me, after all I'm a brand new adult figuring stuff out for the first time. A lot has changed since I last sat at that table.
Had to stop the video bc almost started crying. I just turned 21 and think this is the year I’m no longer part of the little kids table and I didn’t even realize last year was my last year…
God why do you care? Children are annoying stupid troglodytes, people need to stop this culture of being a adult means your never allowed to ask for help or not know what to do, when your born into this world no one is looking out for you, the only difference now is that you've realized the fact that was always their, being a child is a traumatizing pointless battle created by your own helplessness, abuse and exploitation from lack of consent is inevitable. If I ever get my 3 wishes one of them would be to make childhood and children cease to exist, people are meant to be complete beings stop glamorizing the helpless larval state we are all forced to suffer through
idk if this will ever be read i don't leave comments usually but this felt like a really reflected video and i assume you grew a lot in the reacent past from the way you speak and the topics you mention, if im right or not seams irrelevent i just wanna say what ever your doing in life your doing well your grown in too a good human, you cant fake the way a reasonably just and adorning person speaks. go you
I don't like sitting at the adult table. My family is very political, and every conversation goes from "how are you?" To gossiping about that one relative that never comes, to political stuff. At the kids table it's like "what's your favorite movie?" To just kid stuff. I wish one day that I can go to the adult table with my generation and focus on stuff we like instead from the media.
i remember my dad showing me this movie for the first time when i was 5 or so and being terrified. not of the story, but just the stop-animation. when i was 11 or so i rewatched it and fell in love with it, i wasn’t scared anymore. it’s such a comfort movie for me and, frankly, started my love for wes anderson films. this video really made me realize why i love this movie so much and why it’s so comforting for me. it’s so simple but so impactful. i love it.
Wow, this was an amazing video, I love when youtubers actually bring new ideas to the table in video essays instead of just rehashing familiar truths as is so often the case. Hope your channel grows as big as it absolutely deserves to be!
words cannot express my love for this movie. so criminally underrated.
there are few movies i flicker to when i seek comfort and this will always be my number one. i think i watch it monthly. it makes sense why it resonates so much with me, i struggle so fondly with accepting growing up & relate so closely to that feeling of indifference ash faces in particular. this is such a beautiful movie with beautiful animation and a resounding theme. i fucking love the fantastic mr fox. i hope wes anderson realizes how deeply people hold this movie to their hearts
This is exactly what has been on my mind as of late, and you managed to get it into words. I literally thought of the phrase quarter life crisis five minutes before you said it. I’m still embarrassingly petrified of leaving the kid’s table. Very, VERY good video.
It's been months since this video was uploaded but i always end up coming back every few months. I think I've seen this video 15 times over the course of 8 months and it's still just as comforting as the first time I'd watched it. Thank you.
I'm here again.
An incredible video. The love and sheepishly admitted melodrama of your script gave your message a special significance - that this was not just a rehashing of the movies events, but instead that you spoke of what it meant *to you*. I have to imagine that writing the script was almost intimate in how honest it was, in how you put to words something that really resonated with not just me, but with everyone else singing it’s praises. Great work, really.
This video found me the day before my 18th birthday and I couldn’t be more thankful lately I’ve been stressed out because every adult I know constantly asks me what I want to do with the rest of my life and I have no idea this video makes me think that maybe figuring it out isn’t as scary as it’s made out to be thank you
Thank you, I just started my transition earlier this year and really needed to hear this. Please keep up the good work, very excited to see what you end up doing in the future ❤❤❤
Congratulations!! Thats awesome to hear, I hope you're doing well transitioning. That's super kind of you to say as well
Even though it’s mid- July right now I really needed to here this as I enter college and feel I really did learn to grow up over this summer after my high school graduation, I don’t usually comment on videos but this mean a lot to me right now.
I'm 21 and I still choose to sit at the kid's table. I would rather talk about Fortnite than cancel culture and gender politics for the 1000th time
I'm 40 and still feel the same way
Jokes on you we talk about Fortnite and cancel culture at the kids table 😂
i know you prob wont read this but thank you for making this video, today I just had my last shift at my highschool job to go work a more "real" job and I've been feeling the sense of losing my self but this has made me feel a little better, so thank you.
I've literally never interacted with thanksgiving, why was I so enthralled by this
With talking about leaving the kids table, it feels like I've been aware that one day I'd have to do so from an incredibly young age. Toward the end of this year it's not even my choice to do so and being scared is an understatement. I believe your video has had it's intended effect, I now realize that maybe not the best days of my life have past and there's still more to come. I'm just not looking forward to those lows and the rather unfortunate reality that I've got to live. Well, maybe I'm not scared of growing up, but instead having to live my life. Thank you for making this video, clearly I and many others needed it...
Rarely do I end a video from a creator I’ve never seen before and just sit back and literally say to myself, “Wow, that was a great video.” But this one made me do just that. Your narrative voice is so unique in the TH-cam video essay game yet so incredibly familiar and warm and welcoming, not to mention the amazing thematic consistency that tied everything together in the end perfectly. Thank you for making this video, I’ll for sure watch whatever you make next.
Yeah, ever since my senior year of college I’ve been in denial about my situation. It’s been two years. The lockdown was just ending. Anyway, I imagined my life would be so different right now than it is. I blame that lost time for my current situation, for my dissatisfaction with my career for the my friendships I lost. But the losses of the past don't have to stop me from building new relationships and enjoying the progress I am making today. Comparison is the thief of joy, and I think that applies when comparing your own life to how it, “could have been,” except in so far as to take a lesson from personal mistakes, but in this case, there wasn’t a mistake. There was just tragedy. I ought to let that go and try take my life on its own terms.
This is a really really really good video. I'm not *necessarily* saying you should like entirely pivot the whole channel, but I just found you through this, and if you did more essays like it, I'd watch every single one.
Im not ready for this. I love you. This might sound dumb, but I’m so scared, this isn’t right. I should not be my age. It’s disgusting. I just want to lay down forever, cuddle someone and cry.
No. Grow up.
My dad would always say “Growing old sucks, but it beats the alternative”
I’ve loved this movie since I was a kid. It’s one of my comfort movies and this perspective on it and growing up in general made me feel both comforted and emotional. There was never a formal “kids” table in my family around thanksgiving. It was the cousin table because me and my cousins were close in age. It’s still a thing even though my older cousins are in their early twenties, I’m 19, and the youngest cousin is now 12, we still have that table. Sure we’re still growing up, or considered grown up, but we’re still the same people we’ve known pretty much our entire lives just with more life experience. Or at least that’s how I view my family’s version of the kids table.
Not often that a video essay resonates and internalizes within me like this. Amazing work!
The note about the pandemic was really impactful for me. I never considered just how much it took from my youth until after it had passed. I barely remember those years now because I was so deep in the throes of depression during them, and only after recovering do I realize how much it impacted me. Thank you for making this. It makes me less afraid of growing up and losing something, because really, you're not losing anything, but evolving into something new.
On a more serious note, your message here really resonates with me and my experience. I feel like I've been living a midlife crisis for every day since I had to watch my dad die when I was 10. There's a lot to unpack there obviously and i never got any mental care because my mom was too busy working to properly care for or raise my sister and I. I can't help but feel like my story isn't even all that special, so many kids just fall between the cracks and are left feeling like this and it's very profoundly sad.
I'm sorry for your loss, however long its been I'm sure it still weighs on ya. Life can be a lot sometimes, and you're right tragedy can strike and throw everything 'off course' so to speak from what we feel it ought to have been. I hope you're doin well, and know theres still lots of life to be lived
@@NapoleonVIINap sometimes it feels like I fell off the tracks and just never got set back on them, but I'm happy with who I am and I don't think I'd be the person I am without having lived the life I've lived. I'm excited for the future which wasn't always the case. I sometimes wish I had a clearer idea for how to get there, but until then I'm just going to keep practicing my craft and learning everything there is for me to learn, I'm lucky to live in a circumstance where spinning my wheels doesn't necessarily mean feeling stuck.
As a kid who was thrown into the world pretty much completely unprepared, It became really hard for me to move on from my past traumas, and who I used to be. Over this past year I’ve changed so much but was scared of it for so long. Just recently I’ve come into my own and well, finally have started to let go. I feel like, well, myself. Not that lonely sad trapped kid who had family issues. Because well, my family has changed too. It was just hard for me to see it. There’s still a long road ahead of me and today for the first time I finally felt like my age. It feels good. Sometimes you gotta take a leap of faith. More like if you don’t the world will shove you off the cliff anyway so you better figure out how to at least keep your head above water. Point is don’t be afraid. Live your life. Become who you want to be. Not who you were.
very much enjoyed and I think its more than the fact that fantastic mr fox is a movie that holds a very very special place in my heart. I think your description of the transitional where you figure out your place in the world is underfunded, and exactly the sorta topic that I want to listen to right now. I might be just a college freshman, but I enjoy knowing what to expect and I'm am thankful for analysis such as these.
idk if anything I wrote made sence, but overall great video!
Fantastic Mr. Fox is actually such a masterpiece.
great use of music
this made me very emotional. hoping to get more into meaningful long-form content like this
Almost everyone in the comments nailed what I feel about this video. Still, I will say that this video essay put a big smile on my face throughout the whole video (trust me, that seems to be becoming more of a rarity as time passes by.)
You should be proud of this "weirder" video; it's a novel one from a unique perspective. I hope you have a Fantastic Thanksgiving and that this helps you graduate from the "TH-cam Kids Table."