The big legendaries (670+ers) are supposed to waste a ton of points in the offensive stat they won't use because even when doing that they're far above any ordinary Pokemon, so it helps give them more menacing numbers without being *too* overwhelming But I will never understand why they give Fezandipiti this awful treatment. What did it do. Who was upset that day
Ah yes, the four Tapu’s Tapu Koko Tapu Lele Tapu Fini And Rillaboom Not forgetting the four treasures of ruin either Chien-Pao Ting-Lu Chi-Yu And Incineroar
7:09 And for clarification, because this is a common misconception, Slow Start halves the total and not the base stat. So, instead of hitting slightly harder than Tinkaton, your physical offense is now outclassed by Dedenne for the first five turns.
For those wondering, Regigigas max atk is 212, meaning it would become 106, which is the equivalent of having BASE FIFTY FOUR (yes, 54) and its speed, which reaches 167 max, would become 88 (rounding down) which is the equivalent of having BASE TWENTY NINE
Honestly, what they should've done is make Regigigas have 30 base speed, put those points in it's defenses and make slow start double the speed instead of halve it (and leave it's attack as is, probably)
@@teeweezeven that's a terrible idea. Slow Start changes should be something like each Slow Start turn is permanent so if it spends 5 turns on field it permanently loses slow start for the battle. Or reduce the amount it takes to rid itself of Slow Start to like 2 or 3.
It's hard to say how to even fix Wo-Chien; Some new moves, like Curse, Earth Power, Glare, Helping Hand, Infestation, Jungle Healing, Rage Powder, Recover, and Spiky Shield would make sense and help it, but would it see usage even then? Movepool additions can only help so much when there's a greater issue of typing and stats
@@incandescence5547 As much as I love Wo-Chien I think its impossible to fix without straight up changing its typing, which is a no-go since well that'd change the entire pokemon, Dark/Grass is just a beyond abyssmal type combination and without some ridiculous stats it just will never cut it, especially once Tera is gone as a mechanic.
I understand that I don't know anything about Smogon singles but being able to drop to a tier that's functionally just "Stinky" is objectively hilarious.
Imagine watching a pokemon match, the trainer brings out Azelf, the legendary lake guardian, who, when combined with it's other 2 counterparts can create chains that can reign in the gods of space and time, and they just explode.
Only way I see bulu competing with rillaboom is if they give it spirit break (Doesnt miss and adds stab support by nerfing opponent) and sucker punch (strong priority, isnt stab but its decent) Also you have no idea how sad I was that type null being one of my favorite designs ever, perfect eviolite stats didnt get recovery or a decent movepool. Not even body press iron defense in swsh. At least with silvally they could always give it the legend plate treatment
Uhh spirit break isn’t a never miss move I don’t think. You’re thinking of Grimmsnarl’s other move, False surrender. Heck even play rough would help Bulu not be outclassed by a Monke starter.
Personally I think solgaleo lunala and necrozma should retroactively do a koraidon & miraidon and just call them “legendary ultra beasts” and say ultra beasts are just a unique group of Pokémon
I specifically really like Azelf not only because I think it representing willpower is pretty neat but because it just goes out and explodes. Now, exploding isn't original. Pokemon like Forretress do so in smogon but the funny part to me is that Azelf is part of a Legendary trio tasked with keeping deities at bay when the time comes....and its purpose is going boom.
I had a funny strategy with Guzzlord where I had trickroom, stockpile, shuckle guard split, and passed contrary with swallow to give Guzzlord the maximum defense possible. Then my trickroom user had charm to raise it's attack since I gave it contrary. The biggest taunt bait team in history, but it was during an event where everyone had all legendary teams. It was a silly team and I loved it.
I think it would be interesting to see a video on why certain Pokémon fell off. Like with Regieleki, it got the insane ability to terastalize to stop its issue with having almost no moves that weren’t electric type yet it still is a niche pick in part by nerfing its ability by .20x
feel like elecki's problem is mainly two things. 1) the plethora of insanely strong priority mons. dragonite and chien pao can both one shot it before it moves 2) booster flutter and bundle both outspeed it. flutter can one shot it and bundle can icy wind it to slow it down. so it can't rely on being the fastest on the field which was it's biggest advantage. and then on top of that the 20% power nerf didn't help lol
Ehhh it’s not useless in every format. In gen 1 competitive itself (gen 1 ou), Articuno is actually pretty good. What becomes its special defense in gen 2 is its pure raw special in gen 1, and is very high. This, plus it’s partial ice typing makes it the best abuser of gen 1 blizzard (120 power, 90% accuracy, 10% chance to freeze, with there being no way to dethaw short of being hit by a first move). Now, mind you, it’s not super great or one of the best mons, but they are pretty good. What holds them back in the tier is its not so great speed, and the fact that it kinda doesn’t do anything but spam the fuck outta blizzard Buttt this is also singles, but still. Articuno isn’t exactly useless
I wish sillvally at least had base 105 across the board. type:null should get current sillvally's stats plus recover. Such cool designs, such cool lore such mid stats
Even a flat 100 across the board, like old Mythicals, would've been good. And give it more Move options, the main point of the whole Chimera-imitation-of-God-thing was to make it a "Jack of all trades, Master of all". This thing could've ended up being for VGC/OU what Arceus's to Uber... Heck, I would even take an all 99 (to keep with the trend of UBs having very specific numbers). 594 would've been fine. All-95 is just soooo wack
@melvondrewhite2674 it's a legendary pokemon. It's entire lore is being able to counter the ultra beasts. In game it can't really do that. Yeah not every mon needs to be competitively viable, but it just feels to under powered compared to its lore.
When I attended both the Brisbane and Melbourne regionals this season, I ended up bringing an Uxie too the side event at both events. Instead of forcing it to be Cresselia lite, I made it a setup sweeper with the goal of dealing solid damage while taking nothing in return, since you can use Mystical Power to eventually get the damage output. In Reg E, I used Wolfes Snorlax/Kommo-o team as a base but swapped the trick room component for Uxie. Clefairy ended up being a crazy good partner as it let Uxie stay healthy and farm boosts, and when Uxie had a bad MU, Kommo-o gets a free win. In Reg F however I used Calm Mind Uxie and Comfey, which made Uxie much harder to kill and it was easier to keep it healthy for its sweep. In MUs, it couldnt do anything, I found DDance Gouging Fire to complement Uxies weaknesses. Ended up getting 12th at Brisbanes Side Event and 3rd at Melbournes with the guy. So I gotta say, if Cress wasnt busted, this guy has sauce
Kinda hope that when we get to Gen 10, a lot of these Pokemon will get the love they deserve with new movesets, abilities and/or stat adjustments to make them viable
I think all Regigigas needs to be slightly more viable (and it doesnt necessarily make it amazing) is one of two things, either keep Slow Start on 5 turns BUT they dont reset on switches and one it gets its act together it stays like that, OR keep the resetting on switches but lower it to 3 turns.
@@IkanaCanyon7 yes, but the issue is not whether they can fix it, but of whether they want to. Remember they intentionally gave it slow start in a game without abilities.
@@sinteleon To be fair, Regigigas wouldn't be fair in a game without abilities. I could see them buffing it slightly in new games, just slightly though.
Gen 8 rilla was a demon. Its basically if Golisopod could spam STAB first impression 5-8 turns in a row, but also get leftovers and click a move stronger than STAB Giga impact. Oh, and you’re immune to powder moves and learn fake out.
Never thought I’d hear Misty Terrain described as “Quirky”, but after that I just imagined Misty Terrain is just, Misty’s Bedroom, and the only effect it has on battle is how loud it is.
In your previous video on this topic, you brought up that Zamazenta is an amazing support Pokemon, but ends up bad because restricted slots are for the Pokemon you support, not the Pokemon that support. If you were allowed to use any six Pokemon you wanted, do you think Zamazenta would start to see a lot of usage for its supportive capabilities? I think it would -- this format would be very similar to Smogon Doubles Ubers, where Zamazenta is one of the most used Pokemon, and for good reason I hope a format like SwSh series 13 happens again where Zamazenta can shine (I'm not sure how much it was used during series 13, but I believe a large part of why it wasn't used that much is because of Zacian beating it and no Body Press. But now that Zacian has been nerfed, Calyrex-Shadow, which Zamazenta beats, is (probably) the strongest Pokemon)
@@racelina338… no? Arceus has 120 points in every stat. 720 in total. This buffed Sylvally would have 100 points in every stat. 600 in total. Bringing it on par with a pseudo-legendary. And I don’t know if you noticed this, but 720 > 600
@Zarugoza5969 I mean, with most legendaries you can only get one of them, same with mythicals. Ultra beats can be caught a few times but still they’re pretty much on the same level as legendaries
the way i see it, if you can only get one of a mon in any given playthrough(don't say there's two koraidon you know what i mean), and it's not a starter, then it's a legendary ultra beasts are not legendaries
I didn't know you could get ultra beasts multiple times, never played gen 7. That does put them closer to paradox mons than I thought, and IG I'll label those two groups the legendaryish Pokemon -- high BSTs and can't be bred
I’ll tell you who WILL be bad in the future, Terapagos. When Terastallisation gets removed, and Terapagos loses access to its Stellar Form, it’s gonna be one of the most mid legendary Pokémon out there
Tbh even still it will be a pain in the ass to take down because of how tera shell works It would be neat if Terapagos gained an alternative way to access its tera form (that or Terastalization becomes the main stay gimmick because of Briar and we gucci)
One thing I'd do to buff Ice Types would be giving them a couple more resistances. Maybe have them resist Water but be weak to Scald, similar to how Waters resist Ice but are weak to Freeze Dry. And also have them resist maybe Grass and/or Flying. Not the best buff, but it's something.
I know this is old, and i I too do think that ice type needs resistance buffs just like rock the original durable typing. I do think that water resistance would be the one, then also fairy and ghost maybe, ice is cold, fairy is life magic so and fire and ice resisting it makes sense in my opinion, also ghost being cold afterlife right? Ice and ghost resisting each other would make sense. Grass needs no more nerfs tho so i would not give ice resistance to it for that reason, as there are other options, even the flying one that you mentioned. Also if scald would work any differently to ice types then scorching sands should work differently on grass, but both of these moves need their power to be lowered to 60 or maybe even to 50. And new special non contactong water move with 80 and sp. defence drop chance to be added to the game. Its like flash cannon for water.
@@turkoositerapsidi Not a bad idea. Ice resisting Water, Fairy, and I'd say Dragon instead in addition to itself would actually be kinda huge. The reason for Dragon: even with Fairy types, Dragons are still absurd. Even adding a typing that was outright immune to Dragon barely slowed them down.
I feel like an appropriate buff for Okidogi is to make it so that Guard Dog not only gives Okidogi a buff when intimidated but it also prevents it’s partner from being intimidated
The thing that annoys me about Silvally the most is the fact they made all its stats 95 instead of just making it 100 across the board like a bunch of other Legendaries. Hoping and praying for my boy Silvally to get more buffs.
@@NokoTheTaco Why? It's a technologically enhanced chimera stitched together a la frankenstein's monster, with control over all 18 Types, made as God's imitation. If that isn't Legendary-worthy, I don't what is
14:53 hear me out, Guzzlord on trickroom with heavy slam, heat crash, dragon rush, and crunch, I was a menace with this team on showdown, he had a check for every Tapu and technically out sped them all, and using the least viable ultra beast and using it to KO a Tapu caused mental damage to my opponents. Guzzlord my beloved.
Shout outs to Silvally being the only non-starter pokemon to learn a pledge move (and only Grass Pledge for some reason). I remember a guy topped a regional in gen 8 with a Water/Grass Pledge offense using Inteleon for Water Pledge Edit: found a recording of the team in question: th-cam.com/video/yhM5Y2gD6qg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JPp3fgSU3veW1Ah8
@@jvbon646 nope, that's the swamp, cutting opponent's speed by _75%_ . Francesco Pardini (the name of the guy in question that I just remembered) backed the duo with strong attackers like Dracovish, Chandelure and Rotom Mow, to take advantage of a speed drop such that tailwind wouldn't patch up
I have actually been having a lot of success in reg F with Fezandipiti and Archaludon. Tail slap with loaded dice activates stamina boost up to 3.5-4x. Light screen patches Archaludon's low Sp. Def. And then I run tailwind and icy wind for speed control. Icy wind poisons a lot of the time.
Actually ultra beasts are no longer considered legendary as of scarlet and violet, as they changed their status in Pokemon home during it, probably to bring paradox Pokemon to a same sort of status as ub's.
The only advantage Bulu had over Rillaboom was having Horn Leech, which was a much bigger and immediate recovery option over the terrain. Even Drain Punch doesn't make up the difference on the recovery either. That said, Rillaboom still outclasses Bulu is every other way.
ive found great success with uxie. spaming mystical powers after using amnesia with leftovers (if against sp atk), then tera fairy draining kiss when i need to, regaining a ton of health from the sp atk boosts from mystical power. 4th move either being thunderbolt for good type coverage (especially because steel resists psychic and fairy), or ally switch for even better defense. usually go t bolt because it already has amazing natural bulk- 130 of each defense and special defense is insane pair it with a fake out, thunder wave, parting shot grimsnarl and an intimidater to reduce the damage received so to it can stay healthy and continue to give itself sp atk boosts. its base sp atk (75) is very low for a legend, but after 3-4 boosts even draining kisses will start to one shot
You could honestly make the case for putting Solgaleo on this list: its base Attack of 137 is great, it has respectable bulk, is immune to Intimidate thanks to Full Metal Body and has a very colorful movepool including recovery in Morning Sun and utility in Helping Hand and Trick Room. The problem is that it is wholly outclassesd by Dusk Mane Necrozma. Incredible bulk further bolstered by Prism Armor reducing supper effective damage, is far stronger sitting at base 157 Attack and can boost with Dragon Dance.
raikous purpose is imo to be a weatherball user. thats cool too cause you can have the savest rock move or a strong fire/water/ice move. but to be fair idk where it can use that potential well.
I still can’t get over the fact that in a game without abilities, they HARDCODED IN regigigas’s slow start, just to make sure it never received any long-deserved viability.
i consider ultra beasts and paradoxes (which might not be correct) to be "sub-legendaries" because they're presented as legendary in their game stories, and they have the stats to hold up
Type: Null and Sylvally are Legendary, that's just a straight up canon fact. This isn't "starting a controversy", this is just spreading misinformation
@@gilla2092spreading misinformed opinions IS controversial sooo you're completely wrong there lmfao. So yes there is leg room to argue ya complete dunce.
When it comes to Regieleki, I'm surprised you didn't mention how it got banned from Smogon OU due to Terra ice + electric being perfect coverage and it would quite literally sweep through an entire team after stealth rocks were up.
It's interesting, most of these pokemon are also bad in Pokemon Go, except for Guzzlord who's #28 in great league and #20 in ultra league. In Pokemon Go, bulk is super important since HP and Stamina count less towards combat power than Attack. Great league is limited to 1500cp and ultra is limited to 2500cp, and Guzzlord only gets to 3264 since its HP stat is so absurdly high. I wonder if Wo Chien will see play since bug type is rare in ultra and master league, and it's a bulky mon.
While not vgc, but instead draft, Silvally is very strong if Arceus is banned (and it is in most.) Infinite typings you can choose based off the opponents roster+your team. I'm currently running one in a draft league, and my Fire Silvally straight up got 4 kills in one game (Multi Attack, Tera Blast with Tera Grass, Swords Dance, Dragon Claw)
Tornadus is a bit of a weird case because tornadus therian is much better in singles but in doubles tornadus incarnate is the superior choice of the two
Honestly why can't game freak just give regigigas a second ability to swap to that's basically the opposite of slow start where he has 1.3 extra attack for 5 turns, or a cumulative of 3 or 2 turns before he gets a permanent 1.3 attack boost? They did him so dirty that in pokemon legends arceus where there were no abilities they still forced slow start upon him.
I think Regice may actually have a really useful niche in snow teams or just in general. It's bulk ain't bad at all, and yep, it's typing holds him back, but then again, Tera. Also, 100 spA isn't that bad either, it's workable as a long term poke, specially in VGC. I don't see lt having any success in Singles tho. Maybe in the lower tiers
Silvally (and I guess Type: Null by proxy) is what you get when you look at Arceus, and decide: what if I take away _everything_ that makes this thing viable. Recovery? Gone. Priority moves? Gone. Calm Mind? Gone. Freaking Earthquake? Hope you don't want to run a physical set (even though Multi-Attack is physical and it _at least_ has Swords Dance - take that, Solgaleo!).
Articuno must have heard this, because its part in the video really poorly aged. Only a 2nd place? Heck, he won just a few weeks after a big tournament xD
Articuno is like one of the best pokemon in japanese Red & Green but it also had an actual Special Attack and Blizzard was completely busted in that game (especially in a 3v3 format)
We actually really need the tapus cause they could stop urshifu which is a issue currently as the best counter is flutter mane which is a Pokémon that has some big weakness
It's funny, cause Raikou, Azelf, and Tornadus T are all solid in singles. Tornadus T is still the weakest cause of how good Landorous and Thundurus are historically, but it's still good. Raikou is a solid special attacker, and Azelf is the 2nd best suicide lead in the format after Deoxys.
The Lake Trio i feel could stand to get hidden abilities. Azelf getting Adaptability, Mespirit getting Sniper and Uxie getting Shell Armor [or an eqivalent therein] would be fantastic for the trio.
He forgot to mention the joke of Glastrier (glass-tryer(?) not having eyes- as if it were a dumb animal which tried eating glass- and now it has glass covering its head… Spectrier (speck(?)/specs(as in spectacles)(?)-tryer)- dying, becoming ghost type from eating… a speck.
Legendaries will have the most menacing designs but have the stat distribution of a gen 2 Pokémon
Im using “gen 2 stat distribution” as an insult from now on, thanks!
The big legendaries (670+ers) are supposed to waste a ton of points in the offensive stat they won't use because even when doing that they're far above any ordinary Pokemon, so it helps give them more menacing numbers without being *too* overwhelming
But I will never understand why they give Fezandipiti this awful treatment. What did it do. Who was upset that day
That hurted lol
"Shut up you have the stats of a gen 2 mon" that one is gonna hurt
Powerful monsters on par with Qwilfish when it comes to the spread.
We can’t even call out articuno anymore, it completely smashed the allegations last week
Ah yes, the four Tapu’s
Tapu Koko
Tapu Lele
Tapu Fini
And Rillaboom
Not forgetting the four treasures of ruin either
Chien-Pao
Ting-Lu
Chi-Yu
And Incineroar
What's a Lele? You mean Indeedee?
@@incandescence5547Tapu Deedee
Honestly could just fit Incineroar on any Legendary group with how one size fits all it is.
You mean
Chien-Pao
Ting-Lu
Chi-yu
And Amoonguss?
@@jo-ri-oh8950 well Amoonguss doesn’t lower opponent’s attack stat whilst Incineroar can
hearing “only 100 special attack” and “130 special attack just isn’t enough to do much damage” really tells you how damn bad power creep is getting
Or The Skill Issue Of These VGC Players . 😂
Yeah when Garchomp became a support pokemon because it wasn't fast enough and didn't do enough damage, it was over.
What comes around goes around.
Garchomp used to be power creep and it got crept upon.
I don't remember that part, who did he say those two things about?
@@thedashey ”only 100 spa” at 12:24 (regice) and the 130 spa was at the munkidori part.
7:09
And for clarification, because this is a common misconception, Slow Start halves the total and not the base stat. So, instead of hitting slightly harder than Tinkaton, your physical offense is now outclassed by Dedenne for the first five turns.
For those wondering, Regigigas max atk is 212, meaning it would become 106, which is the equivalent of having BASE FIFTY FOUR (yes, 54) and its speed, which reaches 167 max, would become 88 (rounding down) which is the equivalent of having BASE TWENTY NINE
Honestly, what they should've done is make Regigigas have 30 base speed, put those points in it's defenses and make slow start double the speed instead of halve it (and leave it's attack as is, probably)
@@teeweezeven Ah, yes. Slow start doubles your speed. Of course.
@@teeweezeven that's a terrible idea. Slow Start changes should be something like each Slow Start turn is permanent so if it spends 5 turns on field it permanently loses slow start for the battle. Or reduce the amount it takes to rid itself of Slow Start to like 2 or 3.
@@RedChilliPeppers Yes. You start slow and then get faster. It makes sense
I know that Wo-chien bit hurt, Moxie. It's okay man, the pain gets better with time.
It's hard to say how to even fix Wo-Chien; Some new moves, like Curse, Earth Power, Glare, Helping Hand, Infestation, Jungle Healing, Rage Powder, Recover, and Spiky Shield would make sense and help it, but would it see usage even then? Movepool additions can only help so much when there's a greater issue of typing and stats
@@incandescence5547give it spore regenerator and make it typeless now that you are into it
@@incandescence5547 As much as I love Wo-Chien I think its impossible to fix without straight up changing its typing, which is a no-go since well that'd change the entire pokemon, Dark/Grass is just a beyond abyssmal type combination and without some ridiculous stats it just will never cut it, especially once Tera is gone as a mechanic.
@@IkanaCanyon7and we still have to remember the design still have to be thematic with the lore and design so it’s stuck with a terrible type
@@Oreca2005 You could make it a Dark/Poison or Dark/Ghost, since it's made of dead matter.
I understand that I don't know anything about Smogon singles but being able to drop to a tier that's functionally just "Stinky" is objectively hilarious.
The funny thing is it's not even the lowest tier.
It's the lowest official tier. ZU exists, but it's still an "other metagame" at the moment@@genericname3516
@@genericname3516 is it not? I haven't been in comp a while but remember PU being the lowest tier. Did they put something below it?
i think ZU is lower @@KatarHero72
@@KatarHero72I think maybe ZU? Unless they’re talking about little cup which I don’t think really counts it’s a completely unique tier
Imagine watching a pokemon match, the trainer brings out Azelf, the legendary lake guardian, who, when combined with it's other 2 counterparts can create chains that can reign in the gods of space and time, and they just explode.
Imagine having a niche that's just exploding
In singles, Azelf was once a very efficient stealth rock setter due to explosion, ironically. Rocks up, blow up to chunk the enemy and deny rapid spin
@@justarandompurplefox3243 yeah i know, I just find it funny
Up until Gen 4 that was the niche for like, 2/3 of all pokemon that had that move lol
I’d be so depressed
@@Natibe_ shit you are right x,D
I loved when Tapu Bulu said: “It’s Buluing time” and Bulu’ed all over OU
Google: did you mean Rillaboom?
First mon to deal Bullion damage
Then was subsequently banned to Ubers :(
Idk how else to explain it, but the script for this video feels like a Rube Goldberg machine😂 very smooth transitions between topics
Thanks I tried hard lol
@@MoxieBoostedfr lol
@@MoxieBoostedthe title Should’ve been ‘bad things about amazing legendary Pokémon’
Only way I see bulu competing with rillaboom is if they give it spirit break (Doesnt miss and adds stab support by nerfing opponent) and sucker punch (strong priority, isnt stab but its decent)
Also you have no idea how sad I was that type null being one of my favorite designs ever, perfect eviolite stats didnt get recovery or a decent movepool. Not even body press iron defense in swsh. At least with silvally they could always give it the legend plate treatment
man i miss the fake leak that said bulu got spirit break
Bulu would also need grassy glide tbh
No , The Legend Plate Doesn’t Exist Anymore . 😂
Uhh spirit break isn’t a never miss move I don’t think. You’re thinking of Grimmsnarl’s other move, False surrender. Heck even play rough would help Bulu not be outclassed by a Monke starter.
I think they just meant it's 100% accurate @@lennydickson8845
Personally I think solgaleo lunala and necrozma should retroactively do a koraidon & miraidon and just call them “legendary ultra beasts” and say ultra beasts are just a unique group of Pokémon
Necrozma already is the legendary ultra beast, but solgaleo and lunala are normal legendarys
thats kind of how it already is in canon tho lol
@@henriquecarballoaranha9100 not officially but I agree
@@inva88 not officially actually although it’s very inconsistent
They have the same sound at the end of their cries as ultra beasts. If beast balls worked on them, I’d say they were part ultra beast.
I specifically really like Azelf not only because I think it representing willpower is pretty neat but because it just goes out and explodes. Now, exploding isn't original. Pokemon like Forretress do so in smogon but the funny part to me is that Azelf is part of a Legendary trio tasked with keeping deities at bay when the time comes....and its purpose is going boom.
Yeah Azelf is great in DP OU idk what this guys on
That's just how dedicated Azelf is!
Guy is willing to EXPLODE to see the mission fulfilled
@@MDH-xe1ry
Azelf is usable in singles, not in VGC though.
You know a pokemon is bad when one of its only reliable sources of damage is being a kamikaze 🗿
They are living the full japanese experience
I had a funny strategy with Guzzlord where I had trickroom, stockpile, shuckle guard split, and passed contrary with swallow to give Guzzlord the maximum defense possible. Then my trickroom user had charm to raise it's attack since I gave it contrary. The biggest taunt bait team in history, but it was during an event where everyone had all legendary teams. It was a silly team and I loved it.
You are a mad man... But with good side.
I think it would be interesting to see a video on why certain Pokémon fell off. Like with Regieleki, it got the insane ability to terastalize to stop its issue with having almost no moves that weren’t electric type yet it still is a niche pick in part by nerfing its ability by .20x
feel like elecki's problem is mainly two things. 1) the plethora of insanely strong priority mons. dragonite and chien pao can both one shot it before it moves 2) booster flutter and bundle both outspeed it. flutter can one shot it and bundle can icy wind it to slow it down. so it can't rely on being the fastest on the field which was it's biggest advantage. and then on top of that the 20% power nerf didn't help lol
its very fast but just doesnt hit hard enough
It's funny seeing people who grew up with gen 1 finding out that articuno is useless
Ehhh it’s not useless in every format. In gen 1 competitive itself (gen 1 ou), Articuno is actually pretty good. What becomes its special defense in gen 2 is its pure raw special in gen 1, and is very high. This, plus it’s partial ice typing makes it the best abuser of gen 1 blizzard (120 power, 90% accuracy, 10% chance to freeze, with there being no way to dethaw short of being hit by a first move). Now, mind you, it’s not super great or one of the best mons, but they are pretty good. What holds them back in the tier is its not so great speed, and the fact that it kinda doesn’t do anything but spam the fuck outta blizzard
Buttt this is also singles, but still. Articuno isn’t exactly useless
It’s sad to see. I miss my blizzard bird
"Back in my day, freezing might as well be an instant KO."
Its not terrible in gen 3 ou
No Because Articuno Was NEVER Everyone’s Favorite . 😂
I’m not gonna lie the “Give that boi body press” joke was hilarious. Poor sweet Regice.
It’s not the best regi. It’s not even the best ice type regi. No, that honor belongs to…
*shudders in fastest quickban ever*
Eleki.
@@jasonbell8515I mean, that's just one of the best pokemon
10:15 well that didn't age well lol
POV: you come back to this video after articuno wins a regional 😅
I wish sillvally at least had base 105 across the board. type:null should get current sillvally's stats plus recover. Such cool designs, such cool lore such mid stats
Silvally’s Stats Are Fine , Not Everything Is Built For Competitive Purposes ..
Even a flat 100 across the board, like old Mythicals, would've been good. And give it more Move options, the main point of the whole Chimera-imitation-of-God-thing was to make it a "Jack of all trades, Master of all". This thing could've ended up being for VGC/OU what Arceus's to Uber...
Heck, I would even take an all 99 (to keep with the trend of UBs having very specific numbers). 594 would've been fine.
All-95 is just soooo wack
@melvondrewhite2674 it's a legendary pokemon. It's entire lore is being able to counter the ultra beasts. In game it can't really do that. Yeah not every mon needs to be competitively viable, but it just feels to under powered compared to its lore.
@@outrageouslamp4539 I Agree It Should Have Higher Stats , I Do Think They Did Him Unfairly ..
When I attended both the Brisbane and Melbourne regionals this season, I ended up bringing an Uxie too the side event at both events.
Instead of forcing it to be Cresselia lite, I made it a setup sweeper with the goal of dealing solid damage while taking nothing in return, since you can use Mystical Power to eventually get the damage output.
In Reg E, I used Wolfes Snorlax/Kommo-o team as a base but swapped the trick room component for Uxie. Clefairy ended up being a crazy good partner as it let Uxie stay healthy and farm boosts, and when Uxie had a bad MU, Kommo-o gets a free win.
In Reg F however I used Calm Mind Uxie and Comfey, which made Uxie much harder to kill and it was easier to keep it healthy for its sweep. In MUs, it couldnt do anything, I found DDance Gouging Fire to complement Uxies weaknesses.
Ended up getting 12th at Brisbanes Side Event and 3rd at Melbournes with the guy. So I gotta say, if Cress wasnt busted, this guy has sauce
You have my respect for this. This group deserves love.
Kinda hope that when we get to Gen 10, a lot of these Pokemon will get the love they deserve with new movesets, abilities and/or stat adjustments to make them viable
Unless it's regigigas.
I think all Regigigas needs to be slightly more viable (and it doesnt necessarily make it amazing) is one of two things, either keep Slow Start on 5 turns BUT they dont reset on switches and one it gets its act together it stays like that, OR keep the resetting on switches but lower it to 3 turns.
@@IkanaCanyon7 yes, but the issue is not whether they can fix it, but of whether they want to. Remember they intentionally gave it slow start in a game without abilities.
@@sinteleon To be fair, Regigigas wouldn't be fair in a game without abilities. I could see them buffing it slightly in new games, just slightly though.
@@Endershock1678 It's also a postgame only mon in a non-competitive format, where arceus itself also exists.
It’s kinda fun to try to make some of these work… except regice. That thing is just an abomination.
Works in gen 3 OU
Grass Glide Rillaboom was the most unbalanced part of gen 8, like the base power nerf was sooooooo long overdue.
Gen 8 rilla was a demon. Its basically if Golisopod could spam STAB first impression 5-8 turns in a row, but also get leftovers and click a move stronger than STAB Giga impact.
Oh, and you’re immune to powder moves and learn fake out.
That articuno slander didn't age that well:D
Still a niche pick tho
Never thought I’d hear Misty Terrain described as “Quirky”, but after that I just imagined Misty Terrain is just, Misty’s Bedroom, and the only effect it has on battle is how loud it is.
In your previous video on this topic, you brought up that Zamazenta is an amazing support Pokemon, but ends up bad because restricted slots are for the Pokemon you support, not the Pokemon that support. If you were allowed to use any six Pokemon you wanted, do you think Zamazenta would start to see a lot of usage for its supportive capabilities? I think it would -- this format would be very similar to Smogon Doubles Ubers, where Zamazenta is one of the most used Pokemon, and for good reason
I hope a format like SwSh series 13 happens again where Zamazenta can shine (I'm not sure how much it was used during series 13, but I believe a large part of why it wasn't used that much is because of Zacian beating it and no Body Press. But now that Zacian has been nerfed, Calyrex-Shadow, which Zamazenta beats, is (probably) the strongest Pokemon)
0:12 Seeing "wake up ethan" really sent my system into shock lmao
YOU DID IT AGAIN WITH THE RE:ZERO NOISE A H H H H H H
10:58 Guess who just won a regionals...
Articuno really said “Nah I think I’ll win.
I’d love to see a memory buff on Sylvalley.
Same, and also add 5 points to all it's stats
It's no alley, it's an ally.
@@AuraStrikeAcethat would remove the point of it being a weaker arceus
@@racelina338… no? Arceus has 120 points in every stat. 720 in total.
This buffed Sylvally would have 100 points in every stat. 600 in total. Bringing it on par with a pseudo-legendary.
And I don’t know if you noticed this, but 720 > 600
I loved the way he cleanly transitioned between each mon
I like to think that Legendary is a broad term that contains the likes of Mythicals and Ultra Beasts
But it's not lol
@Zarugoza5969 I mean, with most legendaries you can only get one of them, same with mythicals. Ultra beats can be caught a few times but still they’re pretty much on the same level as legendaries
the way i see it, if you can only get one of a mon in any given playthrough(don't say there's two koraidon you know what i mean), and it's not a starter, then it's a legendary
ultra beasts are not legendaries
I didn't know you could get ultra beasts multiple times, never played gen 7. That does put them closer to paradox mons than I thought, and IG I'll label those two groups the legendaryish Pokemon -- high BSTs and can't be bred
@@MelodyLumina You can get 2 solgaleo/lunala in sm and usum
I really missed these videos
Yeah they're what got me into his channel
I’ll tell you who WILL be bad in the future, Terapagos. When Terastallisation gets removed, and Terapagos loses access to its Stellar Form, it’s gonna be one of the most mid legendary Pokémon out there
Assuming it doesn't get a unique item and/or ability change to compensate for changes.
Tbh even still it will be a pain in the ass to take down because of how tera shell works
It would be neat if Terapagos gained an alternative way to access its tera form (that or Terastalization becomes the main stay gimmick because of Briar and we gucci)
Replace “will” with “is” and replace “future” with “present”
@GravityIsFalling I mean, it's pretty good. Terapagos is just also rather predictable since it's a tera hog.
Ultra Necrozma situation
One thing I'd do to buff Ice Types would be giving them a couple more resistances. Maybe have them resist Water but be weak to Scald, similar to how Waters resist Ice but are weak to Freeze Dry. And also have them resist maybe Grass and/or Flying.
Not the best buff, but it's something.
I know this is old, and i I too do think that ice type needs resistance buffs just like rock the original durable typing.
I do think that water resistance would be the one, then also fairy and ghost maybe, ice is cold, fairy is life magic so and fire and ice resisting it makes sense in my opinion, also ghost being cold afterlife right? Ice and ghost resisting each other would make sense. Grass needs no more nerfs tho so i would not give ice resistance to it for that reason, as there are other options, even the flying one that you mentioned.
Also if scald would work any differently to ice types then scorching sands should work differently on grass, but both of these moves need their power to be lowered to 60 or maybe even to 50. And new special non contactong water move with 80 and sp. defence drop chance to be added to the game. Its like flash cannon for water.
@@turkoositerapsidi Not a bad idea. Ice resisting Water, Fairy, and I'd say Dragon instead in addition to itself would actually be kinda huge.
The reason for Dragon: even with Fairy types, Dragons are still absurd. Even adding a typing that was outright immune to Dragon barely slowed them down.
Ice needs more resists. Make it resist water and fairy and it’s perfect (also Kyurem becomes the strongest restricted Pokémon with that change lol)
@@Zac_Frost Yeah. Then ice typing would be beneficial for Pokémon to have like ice dragon type Pokémon for example.
@@turkoositerapsidi Yeah. Baxcalibur would be even more insane than it is now. XD
"articuno is one of the worst legendaries of all time"
Articuno in the Utrecht regional:
I feel like an appropriate buff for Okidogi is to make it so that Guard Dog not only gives Okidogi a buff when intimidated but it also prevents it’s partner from being intimidated
I find it really insane how the Paradox Pokemon feel much more like legendaries than the actual legendaries.
Don’t know I’m busy spoiling my self
The rant against the Lake Trio sounded personal lmao
As a religiously singles player I was confused af when he brought up tornadus therian, until I remembered this video was talking about VGC.
The thing that annoys me about Silvally the most is the fact they made all its stats 95 instead of just making it 100 across the board like a bunch of other Legendaries.
Hoping and praying for my boy Silvally to get more buffs.
Sylvally is a Legendary? That’s dumb.
@@NokoTheTaco same concept as mewtwo
both were created in a lab
both sucks in competitive
I Agree Silvally’s Should’ve Been 100 Across The Board .
@@NokoTheTaco
Why?
It's a technologically enhanced chimera stitched together a la frankenstein's monster, with control over all 18 Types, made as God's imitation.
If that isn't Legendary-worthy, I don't what is
@@jvbon646Big rock. And big ice. And big metal
2:32 This was a SHOCK to almost every competitive player.
Ha! Ha! A SHOCKER.
14:53 hear me out, Guzzlord on trickroom with heavy slam, heat crash, dragon rush, and crunch, I was a menace with this team on showdown, he had a check for every Tapu and technically out sped them all, and using the least viable ultra beast and using it to KO a Tapu caused mental damage to my opponents. Guzzlord my beloved.
Pressure sure tapu fini and koko both live and one shot back
Shout outs to Silvally being the only non-starter pokemon to learn a pledge move (and only Grass Pledge for some reason). I remember a guy topped a regional in gen 8 with a Water/Grass Pledge offense using Inteleon for Water Pledge
Edit: found a recording of the team in question: th-cam.com/video/yhM5Y2gD6qg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JPp3fgSU3veW1Ah8
That's the rainbow, right?
So like, was the main idea fishing for Crits with Intelleon's Sniper?
@@jvbon646 nope, that's the swamp, cutting opponent's speed by _75%_ . Francesco Pardini (the name of the guy in question that I just remembered) backed the duo with strong attackers like Dracovish, Chandelure and Rotom Mow, to take advantage of a speed drop such that tailwind wouldn't patch up
@@madjester9844
75%? What the actual fuck 😂
Bro the transitions between mons are crazzzzzy
I have actually been having a lot of success in reg F with Fezandipiti and Archaludon. Tail slap with loaded dice activates stamina boost up to 3.5-4x. Light screen patches Archaludon's low Sp. Def. And then I run tailwind and icy wind for speed control. Icy wind poisons a lot of the time.
Ummmmm actuallyyyy ultra beasts are technically legendaries also what is a restricted Pokémon
Smh I was gonna comment his 😭😭😊
@@MB26535 ah I see thanks for clearing that up
Actually ultra beasts are no longer considered legendary as of scarlet and violet, as they changed their status in Pokemon home during it, probably to bring paradox Pokemon to a same sort of status as ub's.
“It has so much going for it, yet it can’t quite accomplish anything” is a sentiment I can strongly relate to lol
InSANE transitions in this video man! Huge fan of the super edited content
The only advantage Bulu had over Rillaboom was having Horn Leech, which was a much bigger and immediate recovery option over the terrain. Even Drain Punch doesn't make up the difference on the recovery either. That said, Rillaboom still outclasses Bulu is every other way.
ive found great success with uxie.
spaming mystical powers after using amnesia with leftovers (if against sp atk), then tera fairy draining kiss when i need to, regaining a ton of health from the sp atk boosts from mystical power. 4th move either being thunderbolt for good type coverage (especially because steel resists psychic and fairy), or ally switch for even better defense. usually go t bolt because it already has amazing natural bulk- 130 of each defense and special defense is insane
pair it with a fake out, thunder wave, parting shot grimsnarl and an intimidater to reduce the damage received so to it can stay healthy and continue to give itself sp atk boosts. its base sp atk (75) is very low for a legend, but after 3-4 boosts even draining kisses will start to one shot
You could honestly make the case for putting Solgaleo on this list: its base Attack of 137 is great, it has respectable bulk, is immune to Intimidate thanks to Full Metal Body and has a very colorful movepool including recovery in Morning Sun and utility in Helping Hand and Trick Room.
The problem is that it is wholly outclassesd by Dusk Mane Necrozma. Incredible bulk further bolstered by Prism Armor reducing supper effective damage, is far stronger sitting at base 157 Attack and can boost with Dragon Dance.
I had a separate video for restricted pokemon
13:22 That snail *needs* to Win a Local Championship 🐌🥇
Guzzlord would be much better if it got a Head Smash-like move that would let it take advantage of its gargantuan HP to soak up recoil.
Silvaly got me my mustard shirt from the dojo by swords dancing and plate swapping between the challenges lol.
I love that guy
That thumbnail is so good, the yellow and pink being SpongeBob and Patrick and the green for squidward 😂
For some reason the thumbnail made me really emotional, good job artist
I feel like i might cry why is this making me so emotional😢😢😢
Its so interesting to see the differences between singles and double. Seeing Torn T being here is crazy considering how it is in singles
Honestly, that ice horse deserve to be bad after what it did in Gen 8.
And then Articuno won a regional
when he said to double check the subscribe, i thought "nah, I'm in the good side here". I was not. :')
I am sorry, uncle Moxie, now it's done :')
Im sick of trying
Tied of crying
Yeah im smiling
But inside im * anime guzzlord cry *
Then there are the legendaries that are too powerful.
Edit: The steamed ham memes are everywhere!!
Mythical were different at one point but you can get alot of them in game now. Its more that they got assimilated by legendaries.
They should have made slow start like a 5 turn curse boost
raikous purpose is imo to be a weatherball user. thats cool too cause you can have the savest rock move or a strong fire/water/ice move.
but to be fair idk where it can use that potential well.
I still can’t get over the fact that in a game without abilities, they HARDCODED IN regigigas’s slow start, just to make sure it never received any long-deserved viability.
What game was that?
@@g.williams2047 Legends of Arceus
i consider ultra beasts and paradoxes (which might not be correct) to be "sub-legendaries" because they're presented as legendary in their game stories, and they have the stats to hold up
Time to start another controversy. Type: Null and Silvally aren’t legendary. They’re categorized just as “Special Pokémon” in the Alola dex
Type: Null and Sylvally are Legendary, that's just a straight up canon fact.
This isn't "starting a controversy", this is just spreading misinformation
it's not controversial if it's misinformed. there's no leg room to argue, it's just incorrect
@@jvbon646spreading misinformation is controversial sooo you're completely wrong there lmfao.
@@gilla2092spreading misinformed opinions IS controversial sooo you're completely wrong there lmfao. So yes there is leg room to argue ya complete dunce.
Regigigas only has 670bst and still no buff
When it comes to Regieleki, I'm surprised you didn't mention how it got banned from Smogon OU due to Terra ice + electric being perfect coverage and it would quite literally sweep through an entire team after stealth rocks were up.
It's interesting, most of these pokemon are also bad in Pokemon Go, except for Guzzlord who's #28 in great league and #20 in ultra league. In Pokemon Go, bulk is super important since HP and Stamina count less towards combat power than Attack. Great league is limited to 1500cp and ultra is limited to 2500cp, and Guzzlord only gets to 3264 since its HP stat is so absurdly high. I wonder if Wo Chien will see play since bug type is rare in ultra and master league, and it's a bulky mon.
"Is game freak stupid?"
Yes. I thought we all knew that
While not vgc, but instead draft, Silvally is very strong if Arceus is banned (and it is in most.) Infinite typings you can choose based off the opponents roster+your team. I'm currently running one in a draft league, and my Fire Silvally straight up got 4 kills in one game (Multi Attack, Tera Blast with Tera Grass, Swords Dance, Dragon Claw)
Regieleki was a victim of its debut generation's gimmick. Bring back the original Transistor.
I kinda agree
Tornadus is a bit of a weird case because tornadus therian is much better in singles but in doubles tornadus incarnate is the superior choice of the two
Honestly why can't game freak just give regigigas a second ability to swap to that's basically the opposite of slow start where he has 1.3 extra attack for 5 turns, or a cumulative of 3 or 2 turns before he gets a permanent 1.3 attack boost?
They did him so dirty that in pokemon legends arceus where there were no abilities they still forced slow start upon him.
It's so wild to hear you saying that tornadus-t is bad considering how amazing it is in singles
I think Regice may actually have a really useful niche in snow teams or just in general. It's bulk ain't bad at all, and yep, it's typing holds him back, but then again, Tera.
Also, 100 spA isn't that bad either, it's workable as a long term poke, specially in VGC. I don't see lt having any success in Singles tho. Maybe in the lower tiers
Silvally (and I guess Type: Null by proxy) is what you get when you look at Arceus, and decide: what if I take away _everything_ that makes this thing viable. Recovery? Gone. Priority moves? Gone. Calm Mind? Gone. Freaking Earthquake? Hope you don't want to run a physical set (even though Multi-Attack is physical and it _at least_ has Swords Dance - take that, Solgaleo!).
Articuno must have heard this, because its part in the video really poorly aged. Only a 2nd place? Heck, he won just a few weeks after a big tournament xD
Articuno is like one of the best pokemon in japanese Red & Green but it also had an actual Special Attack and Blizzard was completely busted in that game (especially in a 3v3 format)
As someone whos favourite pokemon out of their respective groups are raikou, bulu, and wo chien, this is truly a tragedy :(
We actually really need the tapus cause they could stop urshifu which is a issue currently as the best counter is flutter mane which is a Pokémon that has some big weakness
Regigigas is just like me fr. He's got so much potential, but he's wasting it because he's too tired today.
It's funny, cause Raikou, Azelf, and Tornadus T are all solid in singles. Tornadus T is still the weakest cause of how good Landorous and Thundurus are historically, but it's still good. Raikou is a solid special attacker, and Azelf is the 2nd best suicide lead in the format after Deoxys.
Nerfing Pokemon is such a crazy concept for someone like me who doesnt play pvp
The Lake Trio i feel could stand to get hidden abilities. Azelf getting Adaptability, Mespirit getting Sniper and Uxie getting Shell Armor [or an eqivalent therein] would be fantastic for the trio.
“Our favourites aren’t always that great”
People who’s favourite is Inciniroar:
It's honestly kind of silly that fezandipiti is still only the 2nd-best poison/fairy type
The Silvally part hurt, cus on gen 8 I basically used it in every team to some success. He is a funny guy
lol talked shit on articuno and then it popped off
Don't ever let the Wo-Chien dream die my guy
Once again, i use Technician Fez in singles. Swords Dance, Double Kick, Dual Wingbeat, Poison Tail. Takes a buncha mons by surprise
He forgot to mention the joke of Glastrier (glass-tryer(?) not having eyes- as if it were a dumb animal which tried eating glass- and now it has glass covering its head… Spectrier (speck(?)/specs(as in spectacles)(?)-tryer)- dying, becoming ghost type from eating… a speck.
Given the bugs, random needless nerfs and Expanding Force with Levitate.
I think Gen 9 was randomly genrated.
I don't do competitive. That's for my brother, Azelf.
Azelf is homeless, get your brother some financial aid
@KR-wl5yd He’s staying in my lake for now until his lake fills up again.