I didn`t see so much funny in it. I mean yeah holograms are ridiculous but they instantly made Archer believe that dude was from distant future, so that was Daniels purpose
@@TheOmegaRiddler If you show me a bunch of total nonsense diagrams and shout "SEE?? PROOF!!" I'm more likely to believe you're insane then that you're a time traveler.
Around the time the series ended a series of books came out that continued the story line. There was a Federation-Romulan war and T'Pol plays an important role, eventually convincing the Vulcans to ally with Earth, even though they'd wanted to remain neutral. I think nowadays people say it's "non-canon" but it was very interesting nonetheless.
To me Archer's treatment of daniels sealed this show's fate in my eyes. After the scene he is always arbitrarily a jerk to daniels. It did not help that most of the crew was interchangable. I do think making Shran main cast might have saved the show. But I really disliked Archer.
The problem is, that you like others, thought this series went somewhere.... it had alot of potential, but took cannon and puked on it. This is garbage. Welcome to the end of Trek. It started here and is a rotting body now. Its dead... The storyline went total sideways... simply horrible !
Sneaking it on board, and mentioning events only he knew about that specifically involve time travel, while suspicious activity is going on helps on the convincing.
Some time travellers can only materialize inside the bodies of historical figures to fix their mistakes, and then "quantum leap" into another body, in the hope of finally leaping home...
I met Matt Winston years ago at a Star Trek convention in Las Vegas, absolutely the most charming and enjoyable person to speak with. I always enjoyed the episodes where he played Daniels..
"I'm from 900 years in the future, I need access to engineering and your command codes" "Yeah, and I'm a nigerian prince and I need to get rid of my million dollars, can you please give me you credit card details?" ;D ;D ;D Scammers don't progress in 900 years apparently :P
@@MrJay197409 Thank you for supplying us with this information, we now only need the three digit verification code and we will be able to buy all the stuff we need to save this time line.
I'll be honest, I never hated the Temporal Cold War. But I see why people do, and if anything, think the TCW would've fit better elsewhere. Though I can also see why they'd place it literally before the beginning of everything Trek, before even Kirk.
So where was Daniel’s and his crew when the borg went back in time and attacked earth? We’re they just like “Well, Jean-Luc has this so we don’t need to get involved”
Curt Yeomans I think he said that other species who have the technology all agreed on a set of laws which means his organization only deals with time travel between those species. I’m pretty sure the Borg are not part of the agreement. For example, you can’t prosecute a terrorist organization of war crimes if they are not part of the Geneva conventions.
That's exactly why they did not interfere. If the borg had been successful, then the future shifts, and Daniels organization would have gotten involved.
it's even worse than that when you consider that in the episode Future's End the Federation sent a timeship the Aeon, commanded by Captain Braxton to destroy Voyager to prevent Earth from being destroyed but in the episode Twilight they do nothing, you would think the mighty Federation of planets and its temporal agents would keep an eye on the most important planet in the entire Federation, the temporal agents were actually more competent in the Voyager series actually doing their job. The fate of the world depends on you here's a crowbar Half-Life 2 guess they went with that logic
“Are you a time traveler?” “Technically we’re all time travelers...” “I asked a simple-“ “...maybe the real time travelers were the friends we met along the way.”
Remembering a passage from a Doctor Who novel where a character in the TARDIS Control Room notices a display on the console ticking quietly "as the time machine moved normally through time and space."
At a press conference about Star Trek: The Next Generation, a reporter asked Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry about casting Patrick Stewart, commenting that "Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." Gene Roddenberry had the perfect response. "No, by the 24th century, no one will care."
Daniel is his own paradox. He fixes the future by going to the past sometimes dying but we see him later meaning the new Daniel was sent from a future that his last mission didn’t happen. This means that in Star Trek multiverse theory holds true as this would be impossible otherwise.
There was a TNG episode that had many universes/timelines, etc. The one with worf and the karate tournament. However, yesterday's enterprise implies that there is one overarching timeline that can shift without any conscious awareness unless you wear enormous oversized hats
Seeing him later after having died, would suggest that he had performed that later mission, prior to the dying, or that the dying has some kind of insurance protocol in place, like a backup self..
"you like your scrambled eggs soft, have i ever brought them to you any other way" well thats something archer considered im sure, because dainels knew how skeptical archer can be, so he was able to make it easier by showcasing how if he wasn't honest and trustworthy to archer, archer would've been dead by now. a simple and unique way of gaining someones trust i have to say, even considering the fact daniels is from 900 years in the bloody future. guess the future can be simple with the way they gain trust huh?
@@XiaolinDraconis Sure but there's a huge difference between trusting the cook, and trusting a guy to install incomprehensible tech in all the key systems of your mission-critical vessel.
" Space, the final frontier, these voyages are being twisted, turned around, costume changed, baffled, and distorted, to boldly go where no man ( ONE) has gone before."; Never mix space exploration with time travel. Leave that to Doctor Who.😂
The Temporal Prime Directive requries *minimal* interference with the past. This was the minimal Interference Daniels could think off. And he was in his right as the Mission Officer to make that decision
@@danmarsh7985 He's from the mid-31st Century. Enterprise takes place during the early 2150s. The Temporal Cold War likely ended in the late 31st Century, while Discovery Season 3 takes place in the 32nd Century. Of the factions in the Temporal Cold War, the Sphere Builders are primarily connected with the 26th Century through the Battle of Procyon V, the Vorgons are from the 27th Century, and the Na'kuhl's forces are from the 29th Century, as is the Relativity.
Actually, Capt.Archer has Sam's body trapped inside of his. This Daniels guy is just another Quantum leap guy trying to save him. They are both stuck in time/ reality.
This is the moment I proposed a new series based on Daniels' time-traveling crew. Factions fighting to re-write Star Trek's storylines. The guest stars from series and movies would, of course, boost the price.
You become a temporal agent fighting for Daniels in star trek online. You can unlock31st century technology for your ship and your crew. And you get to fight alongside scotty and checkov. Oh and you find out that the temporal liberation front caused every war in federation history.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 When did they cause the 1st and 2nd Klingon/Federation War? The earth/romulan war? What about the War with Cardassia, the war with the Borg or Dominion? The whole Xindi war is about the only one the TLF caused.
Christopher G it is the first level of the temporal agent path. the Klingon commanders themselves think cloaking devices are a coward's weapon but their superiors tell them to use them. the TLF also convinced the romulans to attack united earth. through direct and indirect methods they cause everything to destroy the federation. including arming the enemies of the iconians to ensure the fall of iconia. which set into motion several other conflicts
To think about it, the time travel aspect of the shows is relatively cohesive, in the 22nd century it is never initiated by a 22nd century person. In the 23rd century it is either predestined time travel by the slingshot method, or a secret portal. In the 24th century some enemies have it (very powerful ones)and a lot of accidents happen, then in the 28th/29th century holograms are perfected and they don't work so well, eventually killing the person with multiple jumps. In the 31st century they send people back to their orignal timeline when they should die.
@@georgepierson4920 It's been 3 years since I posted this, but I assume I meant that it wasn't needed to send a person back in time anymore and it's just holograms of the person in the past.
The Guardian of Forever/Carl could've likely done the same as was done for Georgiou forever though, it's just a matter of, he/it was hiding out at that specific location in the 32nd century after having been a target during the Temporal Cold War... He wasn't really formally involved in the natural development of time travel when it comes to Starfleet and other comparable entities. But it is true that we hadn't seen the Guardian of Forever send people across parallel realities to such an extent, and back, until Discovery. Which suggests he might've learned some things in the nearly century since his first appearance in TOS, or just had no reason to show the extent of his powers (to us viewers) until Georgiou came along
The temporal cold war wasn't a bad idea, it just was such a limiting idea. The early seasons of Enterprise lacked world building, and always copied the more boring script ideas of Trek. Having a plot that married Enterprise to "the future" meant events felt less important. Being told "This is Important" makes something seem less important than being shown why it was important.
Agreed. Enterprise was supposed to be about building the world of the Federation, First Contact was the birth of Star Trek, Enterprise was supposed to be Star Trek's coming of age as far humanity becoming a citizen of the galaxy, the framework the other series and films are built on. The Temporal Cold War detracted from creating the universe and frankly should've been a whole series to itself if they were gonna do it.
The issue was, they realized sometime between the end of season 2 and end of season 3 that there was only going to be 4 seasons and no way to complete the story they had begun. Season 5 was supposed to reveal who the mysterious "future man" was that employed the Suliban, and with who they said it was going to be and what his motives were, I would have been excited to see it all unfold. But because it was going to end before they could get it all out, that's why they had some throwaway episodes in season 4 and ended the series with something that didn't really matter.
They do expand on the temporal cold war story arc in Star Trek Online. You get to learn whom is the Envoy is, how the cold war was started, as well play a major role during the arc that expands through different series events (Enterprise, Next Generation & DS9). Your character even takes part in the final battle between the Federation and the Sphere Builders during that arc.
Imagine going 900 years into the past and telling someone that you need the help of their technology. Before even windmills, eyeglasses, and gunpowder were invented. Ridiculous!
900yrs in the future...can travel backwards in time but can't hack a ship with 900yr old obselete technology or just travel to a point in time when the ship was constructed and put the tech into it.
Play star trek online. The enemy goes back to the 22nd 23rd andn23th centuries while the player goes forward the 27th 28th and 29th. Battles fought in every era in star trek.
Kiwirnango I’m not so sure, a native of that time would be able to navigate that time period much more easily and use the technology of that era more efficiently. A practical example is that I work in IT and have for decades, I was called in to recover files on an archived 8in floppy disk and get the data into a current computer. Since I have first hand experience with the technology of that time I could much more efficiently perform that task in less time and at lower risk to the old disks and files. Our younger people who have never used any floppy let alone one from the early 1980s who are also incredibly intelligent and skilled didn’t know where to even begin. Just saying, I can see how this makes sense. It’s not that Daniels “needed” Archer, but it made things unmeasurably easier. Just a thought...
The only real problem was railroading us through on the decisions. It was like Divide et Impera but with more justification. But that resolution...all worth it.
Watching this episode made me think, what was supposed to happen? was the damage supposed to be a little more severe, preventing Silik from staying aboard? Was the enterprise supposed to explode? Events must of been significantly changed for Daniels to get actively involved.
Originally the enterprise would have not been there in the first place. However thanks to differing factions in the Temporal Cold War she was there. It's a case of temporal damage control. The future tweaked events in the past trying to bring about a more "favorable" outcome in the future. However that tweak has consequences that need to be dealt with to bring the deviation back in line with the end goal. Preventing the Enterprise from having a core breach would have been dealing with one of the consequences. Daniels task was to capture Silik for questioning. Had he been initially successful, yes the Enterprise probably would have suffered a core breach an blown up. But the time line would have likely been restored to before Silik's master started meddling with the past. And if it didn't Dannials probably would have gone back to do the same thing Silik did to prevent the core breach.
The temporal cold war was apparently imposed on the showmakers of Enterprise by the studio suits who thought having a prequel set 100 years before Captain Kirk would be too retro. With that sort of stupidity dominating the production until the beginning of season 4 Enterprise was ,sadly,doomed.I love the show-it had such potential and despite the crass temporal nonsense it has some pretty good episodes.
"so... You're telling me you're done kind of a time traveller?" "That's one way of putting it." "What's another way?" "Well... Ok, I guess that's probably about it."
0:17 "Because I'm not a member of Starfleet." 0:29 "I'm the one asking questions, crewman." Why is he calling him a crewman, after he's already been told he's not a member of Starfleet?
Because either he's lying, and therefore stating that fact reminds him he's in deep shit. Or he isn't lying, and therefore it's a reminder that despite the fact that he isn't Starfleet, to all appearances he still is, and he can have Daniels locked up in the brig if he wants to. Archer is employing both angles.
This may he͏l͏p clear things up : *Activates full-room 3D holographic imaging filled with all the secrets of time travel flowing around at an obscure rate*
It occurs to me that Daniels' time might overlap enough with Discovery's new setting for them to meet. He'd be a lot older but could definitely still be alive
jst got recommended this and see 900 yrs in future and thought the same thing, maybe they are using discovery to better link all the other trek ? but yh agree it could be a thing "in the future" on discorvery
I was just thinking that. They're about when the Temporal Cold War beings.. I wonder if the writers know that... and given Discovery's ability to traverse time, they could prove useful.
@@SevRoks Only if you believe the Discovery writers aren't hacks. It would redeem the show if they manage to tie-in Discovery with the Temporal Cold War but that would also mean Discovery would have the ability to travel back in time further messing up continuity.
As with most time travel storylines, there's little reason they need to actually honor the lore of future time periods. It's easy enough to argue each future exists on a different branch of the timeline, or even that the end of the Temporal Cold War canceled out the entire thing. Honestly, you can do whatever you want with time travel, because none of it makes any fucking sense anyway.
Damn as someone who hasn't seen this series this whole Temporal cold war *sounds* awesome. Yet people who have seen the series in the comments say it sucks... Im conflicted.
It's interesting to recognize actors in different rolls. I was watching one of my favorite TV programs. The original series of NCIS, season 4, episode 5 called "Dead and Buried". the person I was trying to identify was the husband of a real-estate mogul who is involved in the death of his wife's lover. I kept looking at him and was trying to think where I had seen him before, and then it hit me. He was Daniel on Star Trek Enterprise, or Matt Winston is his real name. The Enterprise role suites him much better.
Captain Archer, you have been called before the tribunal to explain why you handed over the command codes of the Enterprise, which ultimately led to its destruction. Because of my Eggs. ......
that last two sentences make absolutely ZERO sense.. "Why should I trust you?" "You like your scrambled eggs soft. Have I ever brought them to you any other way?" ... WHAT?? What does that have to do with anything?!? What, was the writer switching books that he was reading out of when he wrote that??
It means he knew things about Archer that he shouldn't know. I think that was the point. However, it's not a particularly good way of proving his identity, as that's not information a competent spy/impostor couldn't also potentially have obtained.
it's more a statement that he's had plenty of knowledge about Enterprise and her crew and been on the ship for a long time now and if his intentions were malevolent then they'd be dead already. But the analogy IS handled rather clunkily I will admit, even if some folks do get it right off.
The subtlety here is this - he can't confirm or deny anything whatsoever about the relevancy of past, future, or current events. In doing so he'd violate, basically, his version of "The Prime Directive". This ship is supposed to be dead. He can't fix that. But if he were to say, "I came back with knowledge specifically of you, because you're extremely relevant to time, and the events that occur surrounding you are extremely important, and here's why...." Then he'd telling him his future, or inferring future events. Instead he infers this knowledge. Now, we don't necessarily know if there's personal relevance here (my mom made them that way) or if the captain even realized he liked them that way. What he is saying is that you know my story is true, because I know details about YOU that I shouldn't know. Considering he's a time traveller as well, he may already know this statement convinces him. Part of his story was that his group is more capable of observing time but practice stricter moral codes. He is exercising his diligence to his profession by both not revealing any future knowledge that could construe his future actions to deviate - but by stating previous knowledge and showing his own diligence. He could have come back in time, hacked the computer, destroyed the ship and would be done with this entire program. Instead - he served soft scrambled eggs to his commander in this time, performing his duties diligently waiting for an opportune time to prove his value. He couldn't do something so swooping as save the ship - his moral and ethical boundaries forbade him. It also suggests he was surprised by this turn of events - or possibly humble about their potential future. He can't even confirm that that information was inferred scientifically, in time, why or how. It is the gentlest nudge he can give him without revealing too much about time travellers. The important thing is he's revealing his diligence to not disturb the timeline as it was. That and what evil genius sits down and obsesses over omelette's? Who would invest that much time unless they were playing a waiting game. That and he's explaining that while not technically a member of star fleet, he has in fact fulfilled his duties to them to the best of his ability. He can't prove his merit through large swooping acts of time-changing - but by humbling serving starfleet. It's a mark of character. These things matter to commanders.
Yeah, that line "You like your eggs soft. Have I ever brought them to you any other way?" I could totally hear that coming out of Cronenberg's mouth as Kovich.
A few weeks later......... Admiral: So Archer, explain again how you lost your entire ship, all the files, the top secret data, your supplies and half your crew and got stranded on that desolate planet again? Archer: Um... I was tricked by this guy who... uh... claimed to be a time traveler there to help me. Admiral: We trusted you with high level access and placed you in command of the first galaxy class starship and you lost it to a con artist who claimed to be a time traveler?! Archer: He was very convincing! Admiral: How exactly? Archer: He uh... showed me some holographic pictures on the wall pointing to his century. Admiral: So he basically showed you a projector and that made you just believed him? Archer: Oh no. I asked how I could trust him and he told me that he always made my eggs the way I like it. Admiral: And...? Archer: Well....that was basically it.
This _Enterprise_ is not a Galaxy-class ship. ( _Enterprise_ D was.) The show called it an NX-class ship, but if it were named after the lead ship as is Navy tradition (and as was shown to be the case in Starfleet later on), it would be an Enterprise-class ship.
Archer shows a lack of understanding of basic astronomy. The Vulcans are all jerks. A Klingon walks out of a cornfield. Earth has allowed itself to be politically, socially, and technologically hobbled. The far-distant Klingon Empire is about a day's journey away. That's all in the *first* episode.
I had been waiting for the scene where Archer looks in the mirror and says "Oh boy." Would have been nice if Al would have popped in and had a go around with the temporal court. The only thing that would have been more interesting is if Tucker found a police call box in engineering.
That assumes it was recorded someplace. Who says command codes are maintained anyplace in the long run? I would not. Passwords would be an example today. Maintaining the exact passwords would be stupid as well. You may store a hash longer, but not the codes, though perhaps you could reverse engineer that with enough computing power in the future.
@Jez Creed: I suspect that Daniels may have said "More or less" because he had some non-human ancestors that Archer wouldn't know about, such as the Betazoids or other alien races that can pass for humans. 🤔
@@pablohammerly448 You’re exactly right in terms of the show and it’s lore...however, I felt, and still feel, like an ass when I’ve been drinking. I don’t feel human when I’m very hungover, that was my original point. It’s not literal, it’s metaphorical.
Interesting part. After seeing discovery there is no more starfleet the way Daniel's says " im not from starfleet. Even though I be honor after being here" This hints starfleet been gone for awhile
No, it just hints that his first experiences in Starfleet (in both frames of reference) would be on the NX-01. Doesn't mean Starfleet is outright gone in his time.
This was part of the problem with enterprise. The show was more mystical than other Star Trek. They explained it with its future tech and other excuses, but never really seemed gritty enough for an early version of Star Trek. Always felt like they were more advanced than should be, had more knowledge than was possible compared to original series.
They can't see the relatively small room they are in and they just walk around carelessly, ignoring this fact... They could easily bump their head, which would be really funny.
I was thinking that his projector created a space similar to what a holo-deck does where you can walk around in the projection without leaving the room.
+SasquatchyCowboy Time Lords in Star Trek were only part of a non-canon comic. Other comic trivia: Interestingly, there is an X-Men crossover comic that compares the appearances of Professor Xavier and Captain Picard, and this was before the X-Men films were even made with Patrick Stewart. That also reminds me of a Deadpool comic where it's said that Deadpool looks similar to Ryan Reynolds, and this was also way before Ryan Reynolds ever played the role.
Time traveler: I'm from the future about 900 years. Archer: Yet your technology style of speaking and even appearance aren't that different. Heck you're a generic looking white guy that could have gone back to a sci-fi convention in the year 2000 without anyone saying 'wow'. Time traveler: We're currently going through a retro phase in our culture its considered hip. Archer: Sounds legit.
"Why are you telling me all this? "
"Because... We are recruiting you.."
Cut to Quantum Leap intro
Oh boy!
Sam Beckett travelled to the future to take in the temporal cold war.
The handheld thingy even kind of fits!
Hell no! I'm not getting stuck never going back to my own time.
That would have been better than the actual ending of the series
"Maybe this'll help clear things up."
*incomprehensible holograms*
Ok I'm glad I'm not crazy. Those holograms made me laugh out loud.
Where was Dean Stockwell?
I didn`t see so much funny in it. I mean yeah holograms are ridiculous but they instantly made Archer believe that dude was from distant future, so that was Daniels purpose
@ Totally Bored he was hoping that his next leap will be the leap home (leap noises flashing lite)
You're obviously not smart enough not to understand them
"Maybe this will help clear things up."
*Proceeds to open the most incomprehensible diagram I've ever seen*
The sarcastic tone of voice changes down the centuries.
You've obviously never seen a pension forecast graph...😜
He's only showing him to help him believe his story, not to show him how to understand the observatory.
@@TheOmegaRiddler If you show me a bunch of total nonsense diagrams and shout "SEE?? PROOF!!" I'm more likely to believe you're insane then that you're a time traveler.
@@redengineer4380 But he showed him technology that is way more advanced than anything he has seen. He turned a tiny crew quarters into a Holodeck.
Am i the only one who thinks this series was realy good and deserved at least 2 more seasons?! Liked the concept.
They needed to lean into this storyline earlier in the series so by the time it really got going people had tuned out
4-5 more seasons.
Around the time the series ended a series of books came out that continued the story line. There was a Federation-Romulan war and T'Pol plays an important role, eventually convincing the Vulcans to ally with Earth, even though they'd wanted to remain neutral. I think nowadays people say it's "non-canon" but it was very interesting nonetheless.
To me Archer's treatment of daniels sealed this show's fate in my eyes. After the scene he is always arbitrarily a jerk to daniels. It did not help that most of the crew was interchangable. I do think making Shran main cast might have saved the show. But I really disliked Archer.
The problem is, that you like others, thought this series went somewhere.... it had alot of potential, but took cannon and puked on it. This is garbage. Welcome to the end of Trek. It started here and is a rotting body now. Its dead... The storyline went total sideways... simply horrible !
" That doesn't look like Star Fleet issue."
"Neither does that dog that poops in the ship's galley every day but this stays in my room."
Lol'd hard.
Apply aloe to the burn. 🤣🤣
Archer: "So, you people are chrononauts... on, some kinda Time Trek."
No
Roll Credits.
"Traveling through some kind of...Time Tunnel."
"...so you are a time traveller, you leap through time putting right what once went wrong?"
Shiirow Play it again Sam.
Shiirow HAHA YES!!!
"No sir, thats you".
It's a quantum leap....
Hoping that next time it will be the leap home
I wanna buy a projector so I can convince a starfleet captain that I'm from the future with a 5min conversation lol.
first you'd need to found Starfleet
Cpt.AirWolf Don't trust him!
😂
Sneaking it on board, and mentioning events only he knew about that specifically involve time travel, while suspicious activity is going on helps on the convincing.
I'm from the future the earth is not what you think it is
Jay H I know, it’s a tremendous donut on the back of a space squirrel.
Some time travellers can only materialize inside the bodies of historical figures to fix their mistakes, and then "quantum leap" into another body, in the hope of finally leaping home...
I met Matt Winston years ago at a Star Trek convention in Las Vegas, absolutely the most charming and enjoyable person to speak with. I always enjoyed the episodes where he played Daniels..
"I'm from 900 years in the future, I need access to engineering and your command codes"
"Yeah, and I'm a nigerian prince and I need to get rid of my million dollars, can you please give me you credit card details?"
;D ;D ;D Scammers don't progress in 900 years apparently :P
@@MrJay197409 Thank you for supplying us with this information, we now only need the three digit verification code and we will be able to buy all the stuff we need to save this time line.
Of future boy.. look in the history books for the codes
Next generation has a episode with time traveler scammer
@@willvincitran yeah it was Max Headroom
@@Corkedwolf43771 20 minutes into the future
I'll be honest, I never hated the Temporal Cold War. But I see why people do, and if anything, think the TCW would've fit better elsewhere. Though I can also see why they'd place it literally before the beginning of everything Trek, before even Kirk.
It has great potential but in the hands of wrong person it will result into the last Star Trek movies.
Tcw wod have worked find as a series sub plot with main plot being tos prequel and founding of federation like in season 4.
Its also the way to cover up mistakes made by writers.
Star Trek Online did good and Daniels even fits in well with the 23rd century.
@@barrybend7189 They tend to do good because the writers actually like Star Trek and think carefully
Daniels: “I’m from the future”
Archer: “but…this is the future”
Kirk: “no it’s not”
Picard and sisko hold our root beer!
Picard is holding the Prune Juice, Sisko is holding the Root Beer.
@@Vhailor_Mithras Picard is holding the Earl grey tea, Worf is holding the prune juice, sisko the root beer and Janeway has her black coffee
@@gabrieldarcy9067 damn straight!
@@gabrieldarcy9067 and Guinen is the bartender.
So where was Daniel’s and his crew when the borg went back in time and attacked earth? We’re they just like “Well, Jean-Luc has this so we don’t need to get involved”
Curt Yeomans I think he said that other species who have the technology all agreed on a set of laws which means his organization only deals with time travel between those species. I’m pretty sure the Borg are not part of the agreement.
For example, you can’t prosecute a terrorist organization of war crimes if they are not part of the Geneva conventions.
That's exactly why they did not interfere. If the borg had been successful, then the future shifts, and Daniels organization would have gotten involved.
it's even worse than that when you consider that in the episode Future's End
the Federation sent a timeship the Aeon, commanded by Captain Braxton to destroy Voyager to prevent Earth from being destroyed but in the episode Twilight they do nothing, you would think the mighty Federation of planets and its temporal agents would keep an eye on the most important planet in the entire Federation, the temporal agents were actually more competent in the Voyager series actually doing their job. The fate of the world depends on you here's a crowbar Half-Life 2 guess they went with that logic
Daniels knows Picard does not need a babysitter. I mean, Q chose him to figure out his little time riddle.
It’s simple. Enterprise is not canon.
900 years into the future and I have a device that looks like a CD player.
Well this season premiered in 2001, so a discman was still relevant.
It’s extra special lol
Retro is really in fashion then.
It's call "Disguise"
As long as you remember to rewind your CD's it's all good.
"I'm from 900 years in the future."
"Why are telling me all this."
"So we can set up your Starships extended warranty before it expires."
“Are you a time traveler?”
“Technically we’re all time travelers...”
“I asked a simple-“
“...maybe the real time travelers were the friends we met along the way.”
@Amirus primitive thinking at its finest
Remembering a passage from a Doctor Who novel where a character in the TARDIS Control Room notices a display on the console ticking quietly "as the time machine moved normally through time and space."
900 years after the original Enterprise, more than a thousand years from today, and they still haven't managed to stop the receding hairline.
Maybe they did but Daniels is in disguise as someone from a century that hasn't managed it.
At a press conference about Star Trek: The Next Generation, a reporter asked Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry about casting Patrick Stewart, commenting that "Surely by the 24th century, they would have found a cure for male pattern baldness." Gene Roddenberry had the perfect response.
"No, by the 24th century, no one will care."
Some things are not meant to be changed...
Its probably the in style thing
Because its a tv show. Good job you found a plot hole 😂🙂
I was expecting Scott Bakula to say "so you're telling me you were a part of some kind time traveling experiment, that went a little ka-ka?"
Oh boy.
“So your telling me you’re some kind of time traveler?”
“That’s one way of putting it”
“Oh boy”
Thumbs up if you're here after watching Discovery.
😂 that took me here 2 lol 😅
Zing!
My comment aged
I definitely needed the refresher, lol... haven't watched an episode of Enterprise since the series ended
Me too, but I hate to admit I held my nose and plowed through the entire season of STD. Thank God, it's over. Worst one in the franchise.
Daniel is his own paradox. He fixes the future by going to the past sometimes dying but we see him later meaning the new Daniel was sent from a future that his last mission didn’t happen. This means that in Star Trek multiverse theory holds true as this would be impossible otherwise.
There was a TNG episode that had many universes/timelines, etc. The one with worf and the karate tournament. However, yesterday's enterprise implies that there is one overarching timeline that can shift without any conscious awareness unless you wear enormous oversized hats
What?
@@cgmason7568 do yourself a favor and turn your brain off. Star Trek time travel is a headache beyond headaches
Seeing him later after having died, would suggest that he had performed that later mission, prior to the dying, or that the dying has some kind of insurance protocol in place, like a backup self..
it's all lame
"you like your scrambled eggs soft, have i ever brought them to you any other way"
well thats something archer considered im sure, because dainels knew how skeptical archer can be, so he was able to make it easier by showcasing how if he wasn't honest and trustworthy to archer, archer would've been dead by now.
a simple and unique way of gaining someones trust i have to say, even considering the fact daniels is from 900 years in the bloody future.
guess the future can be simple with the way they gain trust huh?
Kermit Peck if you don't trust the person handling your food then you're a fool, simple as that.
Best way to be in life is simple minded.
@@XiaolinDraconis Sure but there's a huge difference between trusting the cook, and trusting a guy to install incomprehensible tech in all the key systems of your mission-critical vessel.
A long con indeed
I was searching for scrambled egg recipes. I'm glad this came up
What a choice, the guy who saved his ship and him and his crew or the guy who brings him his breakfast.
Android 16- well you know that they say.. breakfast is the most important meal of the day!!!
The guy that saved his ship. After abducting and attackig it 5 times already.
" Space, the final frontier, these voyages are being twisted, turned around, costume changed, baffled, and distorted, to boldly go where no man ( ONE) has gone before.";
Never mix space exploration with time travel. Leave that to Doctor Who.😂
Picard has Q, Archer has Daniels .
Why are you telling me all this?
Because I like breaking the temporal prime directive.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The Temporal Prime Directive requries *minimal* interference with the past.
This was the minimal Interference Daniels could think off. And he was in his right as the Mission Officer to make that decision
Rank has its privileges, Said every Starfleet captain in the franchise
Well. As long as my breakfast is consistent, how could you be lying!
I think it was more of a "If my intentions were anything but just and true, you'd already be dead"
thats the way i read it
RIP Zach Johnson's TH-cam channel. It just got shut down today. All the funny comments posted. :/
Die Robyn Aw man noooooooo. He was almost done as well.
Yeah clumsy writing, but the actor did a good job. Maybe something closer to "I haven't failed you yet."
.....so, he quantum leapt into the past? :-D
** *makes a hasty exit* **
KandaPanda no don't go!!
KandaPanda oh boy
Lol!
Yes! KandaPanda you just owned it. XD
But he didn't leap into someone
Though that could be the perfected version of the technology
Since he's not part of Starfleet, my guess is that Daniels works for the Temporal Integrity Commission, like in the Voyager episode "Relativity".
I thought the same thing!
@@hackman669 Genuine question. What year would Daniels have come from then roughly? Working out differences in time is not one of my strong points
@@danmarsh7985 He's from the mid-31st Century. Enterprise takes place during the early 2150s. The Temporal Cold War likely ended in the late 31st Century, while Discovery Season 3 takes place in the 32nd Century. Of the factions in the Temporal Cold War, the Sphere Builders are primarily connected with the 26th Century through the Battle of Procyon V, the Vorgons are from the 27th Century, and the Na'kuhl's forces are from the 29th Century, as is the Relativity.
Actually, Capt.Archer has Sam's body trapped inside of his. This Daniels guy is just another Quantum leap guy trying to save him. They are both stuck in time/ reality.
But, but......
"The Vulcan Science Academy has determined that Time Travel is impossible!"...
Perhaps someone went back in time to mess with their research to make it so they wouldn't go and look for ways to time travel
More likely that they indeed discovered time travel, but decided it was too dangerous and should be kept secret.
'The Vulcan Science Academy has determined that time travel...is not fair'
Because, logically, it should not exist. But, it does in their universe.
Spock: oh come on, just go at high warp around a star, or anything with a large gravity well.
The old scrambled eggs defense... works 60% of the time, every time
Imagine Daniel’s roommate came in mid-presentation and was like “What the f--?!”
This is the moment I proposed a new series based on Daniels' time-traveling crew. Factions fighting to re-write Star Trek's storylines. The guest stars from series and movies would, of course, boost the price.
You become a temporal agent fighting for Daniels in star trek online. You can unlock31st century technology for your ship and your crew. And you get to fight alongside scotty and checkov. Oh and you find out that the temporal liberation front caused every war in federation history.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 When did they cause the 1st and 2nd Klingon/Federation War? The earth/romulan war? What about the War with Cardassia, the war with the Borg or Dominion?
The whole Xindi war is about the only one the TLF caused.
they gave the Klingons cloaking devices which was what allowed them to invade the Federation. they also gave cloaking devices to the Romulans.
@@joshuaplotkin8826 Huh? I guess that is in some newer Storyliens I have not yet played then?
Christopher G it is the first level of the temporal agent path. the Klingon commanders themselves think cloaking devices are a coward's weapon but their superiors tell them to use them. the TLF also convinced the romulans to attack united earth. through direct and indirect methods they cause everything to destroy the federation. including arming the enemies of the iconians to ensure the fall of iconia. which set into motion several other conflicts
Never ever ever mess with the people who serve the food, drive the ambulance, fire trucks, the ones who guard you when you sleep!!!! - fight club
This is why I liked Continuum. Every time someone goes back in time the timeline changes. There's no "saving" the timeline. It's a one-way trip.
To think about it, the time travel aspect of the shows is relatively cohesive, in the 22nd century it is never initiated by a 22nd century person. In the 23rd century it is either predestined time travel by the slingshot method, or a secret portal. In the 24th century some enemies have it (very powerful ones)and a lot of accidents happen, then in the 28th/29th century holograms are perfected and they don't work so well, eventually killing the person with multiple jumps. In the 31st century they send people back to their orignal timeline when they should die.
holograms?
@@georgepierson4920 It's been 3 years since I posted this, but I assume I meant that it wasn't needed to send a person back in time anymore and it's just holograms of the person in the past.
The Guardian of Forever/Carl could've likely done the same as was done for Georgiou forever though, it's just a matter of, he/it was hiding out at that specific location in the 32nd century after having been a target during the Temporal Cold War... He wasn't really formally involved in the natural development of time travel when it comes to Starfleet and other comparable entities. But it is true that we hadn't seen the Guardian of Forever send people across parallel realities to such an extent, and back, until Discovery. Which suggests he might've learned some things in the nearly century since his first appearance in TOS, or just had no reason to show the extent of his powers (to us viewers) until Georgiou came along
I imagine videos like this are going to experience a second wind now that the final episode of Discovery has aired.
Explaining time travel to the Quantum Leap man!
🤔🤔🤔
Sam Beckett probably started the temporal Cold War!😜
Thanks for COVID-19, Will
@@wesmantooth5908 Hi Wes, thanks for the bigotry I guess?
@@williamzhang963 just admit that it was released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology & not from a wet market. Tell the darn truth.
The temporal cold war wasn't a bad idea, it just was such a limiting idea. The early seasons of Enterprise lacked world building, and always copied the more boring script ideas of Trek. Having a plot that married Enterprise to "the future" meant events felt less important. Being told "This is Important" makes something seem less important than being shown why it was important.
Agreed. Enterprise was supposed to be about building the world of the Federation, First Contact was the birth of Star Trek, Enterprise was supposed to be Star Trek's coming of age as far humanity becoming a citizen of the galaxy, the framework the other series and films are built on. The Temporal Cold War detracted from creating the universe and frankly should've been a whole series to itself if they were gonna do it.
3Rayfire it would've been a great 2-parter that could've had a sequel later or something like that
The issue was, they realized sometime between the end of season 2 and end of season 3 that there was only going to be 4 seasons and no way to complete the story they had begun. Season 5 was supposed to reveal who the mysterious "future man" was that employed the Suliban, and with who they said it was going to be and what his motives were, I would have been excited to see it all unfold. But because it was going to end before they could get it all out, that's why they had some throwaway episodes in season 4 and ended the series with something that didn't really matter.
They do expand on the temporal cold war story arc in Star Trek Online. You get to learn whom is the Envoy is, how the cold war was started, as well play a major role during the arc that expands through different series events (Enterprise, Next Generation & DS9). Your character even takes part in the final battle between the Federation and the Sphere Builders during that arc.
it is expanded a lot in Star Trek Online
Imagine going 900 years into the past and telling someone that you need the help of their technology. Before even windmills, eyeglasses, and gunpowder were invented. Ridiculous!
900yrs in the future...can travel backwards in time but can't hack a ship with 900yr old obselete technology or just travel to a point in time when the ship was constructed and put the tech into it.
I would regard that as A CHALLENGE.
Play star trek online. The enemy goes back to the 22nd 23rd andn23th centuries while the player goes forward the 27th 28th and 29th. Battles fought in every era in star trek.
Travel back 5 years and you will need their floppy disc to install operating system.
Kiwirnango I’m not so sure, a native of that time would be able to navigate that time period much more easily and use the technology of that era more efficiently. A practical example is that I work in IT and have for decades, I was called in to recover files on an archived 8in floppy disk and get the data into a current computer. Since I have first hand experience with the technology of that time I could much more efficiently perform that task in less time and at lower risk to the old disks and files. Our younger people who have never used any floppy let alone one from the early 1980s who are also incredibly intelligent and skilled didn’t know where to even begin. Just saying, I can see how this makes sense. It’s not that Daniels “needed” Archer, but it made things unmeasurably easier. Just a thought...
He should have said:
"Bleep-Bleep, Blorp-Blorp, I'm a future man". Then I might have believed him.
Imma go with that being the worst possible reason to trust someone I've ever heard.
Man I miss this show. If they're making a reboot, this show will be it for me.
abarinta, agreed. I wish that it had had seven full seasons.
@@JeffTY77450 So did the guy who played Malcolm. He bought a house because he thought he’d have a steady job for seven years. Oops.
Discovery?
Picard?
Strange New Worlds?
Lower Decks?
"There are factions that ignore those procedures. We call her Janeway."
Archer: why should i trust you
Daniels: you like your scrambled eggs soft have
i ever brought them to you any other way
Actually, I thought they did a pretty good job fleshing out the Temporal Cold War in "Star Trek Online".
They did. I actually liked playing through that arc.
They did. I liked playing that arc in STO.
Agreed.
My favorite part was when they had you get a silicon-based lifeform pet. That game had great writers and ideas but a teensy budget.
The only real problem was railroading us through on the decisions. It was like Divide et Impera but with more justification. But that resolution...all worth it.
Watching this episode made me think, what was supposed to happen? was the damage supposed to be a little more severe, preventing Silik from staying aboard? Was the enterprise supposed to explode? Events must of been significantly changed for Daniels to get actively involved.
Originally the enterprise would have not been there in the first place. However thanks to differing factions in the Temporal Cold War she was there. It's a case of temporal damage control. The future tweaked events in the past trying to bring about a more "favorable" outcome in the future. However that tweak has consequences that need to be dealt with to bring the deviation back in line with the end goal. Preventing the Enterprise from having a core breach would have been dealing with one of the consequences. Daniels task was to capture Silik for questioning. Had he been initially successful, yes the Enterprise probably would have suffered a core breach an blown up. But the time line would have likely been restored to before Silik's master started meddling with the past. And if it didn't Dannials probably would have gone back to do the same thing Silik did to prevent the core breach.
The temporal cold war was apparently imposed on the showmakers of Enterprise by the studio suits who thought having a prequel set 100 years before Captain Kirk would be too retro. With that sort of stupidity dominating the production until the beginning of season 4 Enterprise was ,sadly,doomed.I love the show-it had such potential and despite the crass temporal nonsense it has some pretty good episodes.
Glad I’m not the only one here after the Discovery finale!
'oh boy'
Underrated comment of the year. I wonder how many people actually get this reference :)
I got it.
-Sam
He should have said "Once I've captured Silik I'm hoping I can make the leap home."
Excellent.
Al, ask Ziggy what he thinks I'm supposed to be doing here.
"This is how we keep an eye on what's going on". *Half the display is outside of your field of view at all times*
why is this in my suggestions
Cuz it's awesome!!
Because TH-cam knows you're into UFOS and time travel.
Advertising//marketing algorythms.
Do you search online for a lot of soft scrambled egg recipes?
lmao...good one
Dude! David Chronenbergs character in Discovery just revealed he is Agent Daniels! The Temporal Wars was also referenced in this show
Kovich being Daniels now makes every scene he was in starting in DIS Season 3 retroactively more intriguing.
If "Sam" had one of those Temporal Maps back in the 80's, he would "Leaped" back Home easily!!! 😇
Quantum Leap was from the 90s
Didnt know he could leap that far.
I wonder who in the future of Daniels watches the time travels in Daniels time?
This was addressed in Keith Laumer's 'Dinosaur Beach'.
Dinosaur Beach is an absolutely great book. I am glad that someone remembers it besides me.
I got a copy. It is only one of two books I required my son to read.
timeception
Great question. Marvel of course answers this with a final Watcher who sees all places and times in the multiverse.
“The Vulcan Science Directorate has determined time travel is impossible.“
"so... You're telling me you're done kind of a time traveller?"
"That's one way of putting it."
"What's another way?"
"Well... Ok, I guess that's probably about it."
I need a time traveler to come and change the current state of Star Trek.
You need to take a Quantum leap of faith.
0:17 "Because I'm not a member of Starfleet."
0:29 "I'm the one asking questions, crewman."
Why is he calling him a crewman, after he's already been told he's not a member of Starfleet?
He’s still a member of the crew even if he isn’t starfleet
@@fireballninja01
No, he is a person that is impersonating a crewman.
@@shawbros ahhh, sorry, thank you
Tpol wasnt a member of star fleet but she was a crewman, i mean it's more a matter of if you work on the ship or are a passenger
Because either he's lying, and therefore stating that fact reminds him he's in deep shit. Or he isn't lying, and therefore it's a reminder that despite the fact that he isn't Starfleet, to all appearances he still is, and he can have Daniels locked up in the brig if he wants to. Archer is employing both angles.
"Hello Captain, this technology is from the 1980's, we call it a CD Walkman"
This may he͏l͏p clear things up :
*Activates full-room 3D holographic imaging filled with all the secrets of time travel flowing around at an obscure rate*
It occurs to me that Daniels' time might overlap enough with Discovery's new setting for them to meet. He'd be a lot older but could definitely still be alive
jst got recommended this and see 900 yrs in future and thought the same thing, maybe they are using discovery to better link all the other trek ? but yh agree it could be a thing "in the future" on discorvery
I was just thinking that. They're about when the Temporal Cold War beings.. I wonder if the writers know that... and given Discovery's ability to traverse time, they could prove useful.
@@SevRoks Only if you believe the Discovery writers aren't hacks. It would redeem the show if they manage to tie-in Discovery with the Temporal Cold War but that would also mean Discovery would have the ability to travel back in time further messing up continuity.
@@Hero323 yeah, cuz doesnt discovery take place in the late 32nd century? the wars are over by then
As with most time travel storylines, there's little reason they need to actually honor the lore of future time periods. It's easy enough to argue each future exists on a different branch of the timeline, or even that the end of the Temporal Cold War canceled out the entire thing. Honestly, you can do whatever you want with time travel, because none of it makes any fucking sense anyway.
Why didn't I trust you?
Because I make you a delicious breakfast
Damn as someone who hasn't seen this series this whole Temporal cold war *sounds* awesome. Yet people who have seen the series in the comments say it sucks... Im conflicted.
It sounded awesome. It sucked. Even with good actors.
It started out good, but then kind of fizzled out. I think the writers were planning a better resolution but then the show got cancelled.
It was good. Watch it. People are just picky.
It doesn't suck. I liked it. It opens up possible story lines that would otherwise be forced to end.
It got in the way of the more interesting concepts involved in Humanity's first steps into space.
Dammit. there goes my book idea, already more or less thought up by the writers of this show.....well I guess it's back to drinking whiskey.
i love how Archer loses the attitude when he realizes he don't know shit
It's interesting to recognize actors in different rolls. I was watching one of my favorite TV programs. The original series of NCIS, season 4, episode 5 called "Dead and Buried". the person I was trying to identify was the husband of a real-estate mogul who is involved in the death of his wife's lover. I kept looking at him and was trying to think where I had seen him before, and then it hit me. He was Daniel on Star Trek Enterprise, or Matt Winston is his real name. The Enterprise role suites him much better.
This is above Relativity's pay grade!
Captain Archer, you have been called before the tribunal to explain why you handed over the command codes of the Enterprise, which ultimately led to its destruction.
Because of my Eggs.
......
Crew of Discovery & Time Ship Relativity- Hold my Synthahol
Jokes on you pal, I like my scrambled eggs hard as a rock, now give me that pico projector and lay off the LSD. 900 years in the future... yeesh
So 900 yeas in the future they are only using 360p projectors. Sad.
When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not.
900 years in the future 360p is still the best encoding to man.
that last two sentences make absolutely ZERO sense.. "Why should I trust you?" "You like your scrambled eggs soft. Have I ever brought them to you any other way?" ... WHAT?? What does that have to do with anything?!? What, was the writer switching books that he was reading out of when he wrote that??
wwazman That's a HARD BOILED comment if I ever saw one.
It means he knew things about Archer that he shouldn't know. I think that was the point.
However, it's not a particularly good way of proving his identity, as that's not information a competent spy/impostor couldn't also potentially have obtained.
It makes perfect Sense!!!! We never did get to see who the Chef was on the ship! They revered him! Riker played his role!
it's more a statement that he's had plenty of knowledge about Enterprise and her crew and been on the ship for a long time now and if his intentions were malevolent then they'd be dead already.
But the analogy IS handled rather clunkily I will admit, even if some folks do get it right off.
The subtlety here is this - he can't confirm or deny anything whatsoever about the relevancy of past, future, or current events. In doing so he'd violate, basically, his version of "The Prime Directive". This ship is supposed to be dead. He can't fix that. But if he were to say, "I came back with knowledge specifically of you, because you're extremely relevant to time, and the events that occur surrounding you are extremely important, and here's why...."
Then he'd telling him his future, or inferring future events.
Instead he infers this knowledge. Now, we don't necessarily know if there's personal relevance here (my mom made them that way) or if the captain even realized he liked them that way.
What he is saying is that you know my story is true, because I know details about YOU that I shouldn't know. Considering he's a time traveller as well, he may already know this statement convinces him.
Part of his story was that his group is more capable of observing time but practice stricter moral codes. He is exercising his diligence to his profession by both not revealing any future knowledge that could construe his future actions to deviate - but by stating previous knowledge and showing his own diligence.
He could have come back in time, hacked the computer, destroyed the ship and would be done with this entire program. Instead - he served soft scrambled eggs to his commander in this time, performing his duties diligently waiting for an opportune time to prove his value. He couldn't do something so swooping as save the ship - his moral and ethical boundaries forbade him. It also suggests he was surprised by this turn of events - or possibly humble about their potential future.
He can't even confirm that that information was inferred scientifically, in time, why or how. It is the gentlest nudge he can give him without revealing too much about time travellers.
The important thing is he's revealing his diligence to not disturb the timeline as it was. That and what evil genius sits down and obsesses over omelette's?
Who would invest that much time unless they were playing a waiting game. That and he's explaining that while not technically a member of star fleet, he has in fact fulfilled his duties to them to the best of his ability. He can't prove his merit through large swooping acts of time-changing - but by humbling serving starfleet.
It's a mark of character. These things matter to commanders.
So this is dr kovich 😅 it works
Yeah, that line "You like your eggs soft. Have I ever brought them to you any other way?"
I could totally hear that coming out of Cronenberg's mouth as Kovich.
The scrambled eggs. Threw me off.
"Its the god-dam cook" That was always my favorite line from Hunt For Red October.
A few weeks later......... Admiral: So Archer, explain again how you lost your entire ship, all the files, the top secret data, your supplies and half your crew and got stranded on that desolate planet again? Archer: Um... I was tricked by this guy who... uh... claimed to be a time traveler there to help me. Admiral: We trusted you with high level access and placed you in command of the first galaxy class starship and you lost it to a con artist who claimed to be a time traveler?! Archer: He was very convincing! Admiral: How exactly? Archer: He uh... showed me some holographic pictures on the wall pointing to his century. Admiral: So he basically showed you a projector and that made you just believed him? Archer: Oh no. I asked how I could trust him and he told me that he always made my eggs the way I like it. Admiral: And...? Archer: Well....that was basically it.
Archer: I've lost all credibility, haven't I?
@@carinadominguez22 oh boy... th-cam.com/video/Wxtp2VNHAFo/w-d-xo.html
This _Enterprise_ is not a Galaxy-class ship. ( _Enterprise_ D was.) The show called it an NX-class ship, but if it were named after the lead ship as is Navy tradition (and as was shown to be the case in Starfleet later on), it would be an Enterprise-class ship.
@@BladeOfLight16 Don't you have a comic book store to run?
@@rudolphg76 Must you be an ass just because someone gave you some information?
Daniels' background seems like a great story to make.
Here after the Discovery finale
I don't understand why this show was less popular. I thought it was incredible! I think the intro did it in.
Archer shows a lack of understanding of basic astronomy. The Vulcans are all jerks. A Klingon walks out of a cornfield. Earth has allowed itself to be politically, socially, and technologically hobbled. The far-distant Klingon Empire is about a day's journey away. That's all in the *first* episode.
@@squireob 🤓👆
900 years in the future for him is 3055, which is 14 years before the burn.
I wish we could have seen more of Daniels. I really liked his character. I loved him in STO (for gamers). Good Trek!
I had been waiting for the scene where Archer looks in the mirror and says "Oh boy." Would have been nice if Al would have popped in and had a go around with the temporal court. The only thing that would have been more interesting is if Tucker found a police call box in engineering.
There is a Dr Who / Star Trek crossover in the comics. I think it’s TNG though
I was always admiring the JUMPSUIT uniforms they wear. So functional !!! 😀👍
Plot hole: Someone from 900 years in Starfleet's future would have already had access to Archer's command codes.
It was pretty clear that this guy is an Archer fanboy, so he did go above and beyond to interact with him even if he maybe didn't have to.
I don't see how the first Starfleet command codes would be on record or something.
@@teleportedbreadfor3days I dont see how they wouldn't be, the question is, would those records have made it 900 years into the future?
He should have pointed to Janeway going through time using a chrono device.
That assumes it was recorded someplace. Who says command codes are maintained anyplace in the long run? I would not. Passwords would be an example today.
Maintaining the exact passwords would be stupid as well. You may store a hash longer, but not the codes, though perhaps you could reverse engineer that with enough computing power in the future.
"...I'm a tool...a tool...I'm a tool..."
He's still going to be a resident at sacred heart to me!
Crap, and I thought I had an original idea. You beat me to it, you bastard! ;p
@@antred11 we all have great taste!!!!:) From one bastard to another, I salute you too! 🤣🤣
“Are you human?”
“More or less”
Pretty much sums up how I feel today after drinking too much last night....
Pretty much how I feel after seeing humanity as a whole today...
@Jez Creed: I suspect that Daniels may have said "More or less" because he had some non-human ancestors that Archer wouldn't know about, such as the Betazoids or other alien races that can pass for humans. 🤔
@@pablohammerly448 You’re exactly right in terms of the show and it’s lore...however, I felt, and still feel, like an ass when I’ve been drinking. I don’t feel human when I’m very hungover, that was my original point. It’s not literal, it’s metaphorical.
"Why should I trust you?"
"You like eggs."
"Aha, good point. That makes sense." 🤔
Interesting part. After seeing discovery there is no more starfleet the way Daniel's says
" im not from starfleet. Even though I be honor after being here"
This hints starfleet been gone for awhile
No, it just hints that his first experiences in Starfleet (in both frames of reference) would be on the NX-01. Doesn't mean Starfleet is outright gone in his time.
This was part of the problem with enterprise. The show was more mystical than other Star Trek. They explained it with its future tech and other excuses, but never really seemed gritty enough for an early version of Star Trek. Always felt like they were more advanced than should be, had more knowledge than was possible compared to original series.
2:23 is that a Borg cube? centre on top.
Yes it is
Loki TV series writers room "Sweet, lets go to lunch and wrap it"
They can't see the relatively small room they are in and they just walk around carelessly, ignoring this fact... They could easily bump their head, which would be really funny.
thegoodhen He's a time Lord, it's bigger than it looks. Sorry had too.
I was thinking that his projector created a space similar to what a holo-deck does where you can walk around in the projection without leaving the room.
KYoss68 wouldn't that kinda be the same thing?
Also, you know the time loards are in the star trek universe too. They did a crossover in the original series.
+SasquatchyCowboy
Time Lords in Star Trek were only part of a non-canon comic.
Other comic trivia: Interestingly, there is an X-Men crossover comic that compares the appearances of Professor Xavier and Captain Picard, and this was before the X-Men films were even made with Patrick Stewart. That also reminds me of a Deadpool comic where it's said that Deadpool looks similar to Ryan Reynolds, and this was also way before Ryan Reynolds ever played the role.
Loved this show, period! Liked Quantum leap
Time traveler: I'm from the future about 900 years.
Archer: Yet your technology style of speaking and even appearance aren't that different. Heck you're a generic looking white guy that could have gone back to a sci-fi convention in the year 2000 without anyone saying 'wow'.
Time traveler: We're currently going through a retro phase in our culture its considered hip.
Archer: Sounds legit.
Yes, Daniels could have said that. But actually there will be no white people 900 years from now.
This show is the longest episode of Quantum Leap ever made