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Ah another movie not allowed to be made today. It was more fun when movie nerds ran Hollywood. Glad you found this one! And the world did not end with its viewing :-). It’s incredible what we are all supposed to be offended by and yet no one can explain why, just that they are. It’s ok to laugh you guys. Multiple times you looked ashamed to laugh like you weren’t supposed to. We should just laugh at what is funny and not worry about what nameless faceless folks on the internet think. Who made this? Ben Stiller did. And we had a better Hollywood and world then. And it was five mins ago. Love your reactions!
Ben Stiller definitely is one of my favorite directors. He's not the best, but out of all of the directors in Hollywood that are mostly defined by their style, Ben just does a lot of weird things and sees if they stick. He's got a hugely varied pool of scores, but when he hits, he REALLY hits. The magic combo is if they can get Ben Stiller and Nicholas Cage to work together.
@@D0S81 He actually has only completely made very few, He has directed and stared in quite a lot but stared, directed, written and produced... very few. Off the top of my head, i think it's actually like 2 or 3. Upon checking... 3 films. Tropic Thunder, Zoolander and Zoolander 2. He has done a couple of TV series/releases ontop.
When Tom Cruise was asked to star in this movie, he only had 2 conditions. He wanted to dance and wear a fat suit with big hands, and Ben Stiller said "sure". Also roughly 3/4 of the character Les Grossman was improvised by Tom Cruise!
It sure comes off like Harvey Weinstein. Was that the intent do you suppose? Long before his scandal broke he was already known to be quite the scumbag within Hollywood.
@@OfficialMediaKnightsit's widely acknowledged that his character was about 90% Harvey Weinstein. It's slightly soured by suggestions it's also anti-Semitic but that has never been confirmed. I just wish he would take more comedy roles, or just let him loose on the Les Grossman character for a whole movie!
Cruise pretty created the character! Ben Stiller said that he asked Tom Cruise to read the script and give his opinions during pre-production, and Cruise said that he thought the story needed another level to it, suggesting that an all-powerful studio exec be involved. Stiller liked the idea and Grossman was created. Cruise also asked that he not be named in any publicity, so his appearance would be a surprise to audiences. Oh, and Matthew McConaughey’s character was due to be played by Stiller’s frequent co-star Owen Wilson, but Wilson was going through some personal troubles at the time so McConaughey stepped in at the last minute.
i noticed that too, i love when actors can do that. best one i ''saw'' was Mel Blanc who does Bugs and Daffy, do Bugs doing an impression of Daffy but still sound like bugs, and vice versa, instead of just swapping their voices. its harder than just doing accents. As someone who does accents, mixing two like that is tough.
Ey! That means the writers and actors involved knew how to do what they did, make some important commentary on what goes on in Hollywood while doing something preposterous!
Yeah, THIS is how you do this kind of satire. When people complain that you “can’t do stuff like this anymore” they usually mean they’re mad that they, themselves can’t make racist jokes anymore. It’s a fine line, for sure, but this is a master class in how it’s done right.
@@extremeking425 yeah no offense this is America so I can comment on whatever so there’s nothing u can do about it except for stop replying on my stuff thank you
As a fellow African American male RDJ's performance had me in tears! My stomach hurt watching this movie. Wasn't offended at all, because they were making fun of Hollywood.🤣
Hes the only actor that could pull it off on a worldwide stage. It was blackface turned at Hollywood. Not making fun of black people. I thought it was smart also. Couldn't be done today as everyone is offended by the sun being too bright and the night being too dark .
One thing many people miss is in the end credits when we see Matthew McConaughey's character flying back to the States on a G5. He took the offer, but used it to rescue his friend.
Here's a funny story about method acting. When Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Oliver were working on the movie Marathon man, Hoffman played a sleep-deprived character, and stayed up for three days straight for a scene. When he told Oliver about it Oliver responded with "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?"
RDJ character; an Australian actor playing a African American soldier disguise as a Viet farmer was the funniest thing ever ! I'm a dude, playing a dude, disguise as another dude.. 😂
RDJ did the narration for the booty sweat commercial, and the funny thing about the beginning is that if you watched this in theaters, it played alongside other trailers, so you didn't know the movie started yet lol
That is brilliant! What a way to start your film and what an experience that must've been in the theater. People were probably a bit confused until they caught on 🤣
@@OfficialMediaKnights That's how I saw it in the theater. I was about to make another trip to concessions when the first commercial started until I recognized Brandon T. Jackson. I started yelling to other people getting in my line of vision to sit down because the movie had started. Maybe they were too scared of the Black woman ordering them to sit down to disobey.
@@gerhen4505 Yes! Most people seem to miss that point. That's not Kirk Lazarus speaking. That's actually RDJ. An extra layer of meta that slips by most people lol. Good catch
And bringing in Downey was quite a risk at the time because he was still considered to be too much trouble to bring in on projects. This movie released the same year as Iron man, but hit theaters before that career resurgence for him
RDJ fighting his face back into a scowl after grinning involuntarily is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. This movie is such a classic. Fun fact: I actually recognized the Jefferson’s theme song before it was remarked on and I was already nearly in tears.
This is hands down one of the best comedies of all time. RDJ somehow managed to nail that char and make it funny without being really offensive..I have never ever seen anybody else been able to pull that off
Why do you think they had Toby McGuire and the whole “everybody’s gay sometimes” line. It was to establish that this dude goes insanely far into it so much so that he most definitely had intimate relations with Toby. Just for the role. That’s really the only way it was to be handled. And why the majority of people don’t find this particular role to be offensive. Instead it’s epic.
@@hugechunkydragon8984Exactly. I felt a bit bad for Downey Jr. being up against Heath Ledger that year. Ledgers win was 100% certain (and well deserved).
Getting offended at the Crocodile Dundee joke while keeping in character as a black American killed me. "Pump the brakes, kid. That man's a?national treasure." 😂😂
cant stand this "we exist in modern times so we know better and are better" mindset, especially after a certain ovid sickness proved them to be wrong. no actually you arent smarter, arent more "educated", arent more "sensitive to racial issues" than any other generations simply because we were born in "modern times" . Its been proven we are just as dumb.
The only people mad about this are this new generation who are mad at literally everything. Theyre constantly mad at comedians and actively boycotting them wherever and whenever they can, then ignoring people who say things and actually mean it.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaisereminds me of boomers constantly cancelling literally everything they don't like, anything unchristian, anything slightly weird or out of the ordinary etc. it seems we've come full circle!
From what I have heard, Stiller originally wanted Cruise to play the agent. After reading the script, Cruise told Ben that he needed to have the studio perspective to tie it all together. So, Ben added the studio part, gave it back to Cruise and Cruise said he would play the studio exec but only if he could have fat hands and dance.
Actually the agent was originally supposed to be played by Owen Wilson but he had just tried to kill himself and was struggling mentally so Matthew took that role. Tom was only ever supposed to give him a critique of the script and suggested the movie exec les Grossman. That's the only role Tom even considered or was asked to play in it
apparently jack black was doing (or just got) Kung Fu Panda at the time and wouldn't stop talking about it on set - so they added in Ben Stiller's love of / killing a panda LOL
@@OfficialMediaKnights He played a hardcore thespian in the movie, and then did the commentary so hard that Ben Stiller remarked on how he -- RDJ the person -- was just showing off how good of an actor he was. Ben apparently felt showed up like his character in the movie! haha
I think the line "Alpa, when you wrote 'I love da pu$$y, was ya thinkin' about danglin' your dice on Lance's forehead?" doesn't get enough appreciation 🤣 Loved your reaction and your insight. This movie is one of my absolute favorite comedies. I remember watching it in theaters on the same day as Iron Man 😄
This is IMO a Hall of Fame comedy. There's a lot of great comedies, but for all the crudity, this one is a notch above most, because of all the meta layers and excellent performances.
@@OfficialMediaKnights It's a classic, and part of director/writer Oliver Stone's informal trilogy on the Vietnam War, the other two movies being "Born on the Fourth of July" (1989) and "Heaven and Earth" (1993), both great movies as well. Funnily enough, Tom Cruise is the lead in "Born on the Fourth of July", and to this date it's my favorite of his performances, and in "Heaven and Earth", Tommy Lee Jones delivers some absolutely haunting scenes.
Another fun fact for you, when Ben Stiller asked Tom Cruise to do this, Tom actually asked if he could have fat hands and he wanted to dance. He was really insistant about it. Ben Stiller didn't understand this request until Tom did it. So Tom basically made the Les Grossman character what it was lol.
One thing that cracks me up is the first time I saw this movie, I hated it. I think I was pretty newly in the army and expected it to be more serious, and because it wasn't I hated it. Then years later, a buddy put it on one night while a bunch of us were hanging out and drinking. I almost pissed my freaking pants watching it and have been in love with it ever since.
Sometimes you gotta give a movie a second try. We actually do this with every film we’ve hated or disliked because you never know. Sometimes it’s just your mindset! Glad you enjoyed it eventually!
I saw this in the theater. I decided that for the first time I'd watch a DVD commentary. It was worth it. It's still the only one I've ever watched. RDJ deserves an award. 😂
I was dating someone who made me watch movies I would never watch. This was on the list..... By far one of the funniest movies I had ever seen. Downey Jr.'s performance was AMAZING! He talked quite a bit about the experience. He LOVED it. Loved your reaction! I thought Denise was going to bust a gutt!
This was incredibly funny! The Hollywood criticism left and right, the actors delivering these lines flawlessly while keeping a straight face! That’s how you do it! Thank you for watching this with us😄
The characters in this movie are basically parodies of actual people in Hollywood. The action star, the warshed up comedy star, the extreme method actor, etc. This movie is a satirical take on Hollywood and I love it!
Pretty sure Jack was parodying Real life Robert Downey Jr. This generation has no idea what he was before iorn man. He was unwell to say the very least. Anyone under 25 only knows him as the hero that literally saved the universe and that's honestly inspiring. Him saving his own life was a public miracle.
As much as I enjoyed the reaction, I enjoyed the post-movie chat even more! So insightful and genuine, and appropriate to the film. It is indeed a minor miracle that this film got made and on such a large scale, and also that it is as good as it is. Major props to Ben Stiller (and Tom Cruise!), and to our Media Knights for taking the time at the end to explain their thoughts and feelings so well. As a side note, one of my favourite bits that never really gets mentioned is at the end when we see Tugg Speedman’s fellow nominees, featuring Sean Penn playing a blind guy and Tom Hanks playing a guy in a wheelchair! Both actors had been accused of doing exactly what Tugg did with Simple Jack, so I loved seeing that! I’m guessing they both must’ve given their permission for their likenesses to be used as well, so good on them for being sports.
I'm just telling you as a movie watcher that I love this reaction from you even though I've seen so many from others I want to tell you how enjoyable it was to watch with you guys. People have been waiting for you for this moment. My life is completed on this journey of Tropic Thunder reactioners.😂❤😊
Hilariously listening to actor Jay Baruchel “the kid” playing Kevin Sandusky, - shouting cuss words left and right knowing he voices Hiccup from How To Train Your Dragon makes all his interactions 20 times more funnier to me LOL.
@@ZwiekszoneRyzykoI agree, he’s so good in this. He plays the one “normal” character amongst all the “insecure” ones he’s working with and that contrast legit makes the film even funnier. Ben Stiller wrote a great comedic script for EVERYONE in this movie.
Sadly, this is the last documented instance of Kirk Lazarus surfacing for air and where we get to see him as he was. Later that year (2008), he would take on herculean task of becoming Robert Downey Jr, playing Tony Stark, playing Iron Man. A role in which Lazarus has become consumed by, and has not broken character even once in the last 16 years, even raising a family as the Robert Downey Jr character. Truly method.
I love you guys. Probably the most entertaining and savvy reactors here. But I can tell you guys struggled with this. Like you sometimes didn't know if you should laugh or not. I promise you, you're suppose to laugh at all of it. Audiences completely understood the joke in 2008 (it being a satire of Hollywood). RDJ was nominated for best suporting actor Oscar for his role. The only contentious thing about the film that was discussed was how frequent the "R" word is used. Not that it was used in general. People STILL understood what Stiller was making fun of (Hollywood's self importance, apathy, and cheapening of real people's struggles and experiences).
Ya, seems like so many of the inside jokes went right over their heads along with the countless memes.... One can tell they don't react to many Comedy's....
I agree, Absolutely the best pair of reaction and reviewing of movies. I am so glad I came across them. Watched about half of all they did so far and will watch all.. very talented pair here..
Great reaction! Not only is this an awesome movie, but I can say that I got married at the same time where some of this movie was filmed. I was in Kauai in July of 2007 and stayed in a resort 2 down from the scene where Les Grossman had the remote feed with the crew - my wife and I walked through the set either before it was set up or after it was taken down. I also flew in a helicopter over the set/scene at the beginning where the jets blew up the tree line (saw the treeline and the tents from above - assuming before being blown up as I didn't see anything burned).
This is If "screw it" and "wtf" was a movie and im here for it. Everytime i need a laugh i put on this movie. Prob wont be a movie like this in a long time! So ballsy hahahaha
Lol factsss!! Honestly, we both were amazed it was made even back when it was! The unforgivingly harsh critiques of studios were relentless and hilarious!
Stiller losing it while talking to RDJ is a spoof of Marlon Brando/Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now's climactic scene. Fantastic film, I know you guys enjoy Coppola
I absolutely adore this movie. I think it is Ben Stillers best movie as director and as a movie fan I love this satirical point of view to the industry. I didn`t recognize Tom Cruise until I saw the credits. Love every scene with him in it. Especially the first call of flaming dragon and Tom yelling at them. Ben asked him if he wanted to be in this movie and Tom said. "Only when I have huge hands and may dance!" Every role was casted and written amazingly and everyone did a great job. You see and feel the mental issues every role in this movie has. Absolutely amazing work of art
The main point a lot of people miss with Robert Downey Jr.'s "Full R****d" speech is how Hollywood tends to treat acting rolls that involve the handicapped and LGBTIQA+. You might've noticed in the pictures at the end that's what every actor other than Ben Stiller was nominated for before Kirk announced the winner.
The disability films definitely dominated the Oscar’s in the 99’s and early 2000s. A lot of them were great but some of them were definitely distasteful. It stopped being about the characters and more about getting praise from the academy.
Oh absolutely!! It's astounding that people with disabilities, who actually belong to the LGBTQIA+ community get overlooked for parts they are right for and it's still happening. Same thing goes for them casting a white man from Australia, paying for his genetic surgery to play a Black man in a Black part and not hiring someone who is actually, you know, Black.
Tom Cruise stole the show for me. After this came out I read somewhere they were working on a sequel of sorts starring Grossman character. Then Cruise surprised an audience at some awards show in full characters & I was psyched af. Then I never heard anything else about it.😔 See ya! ✌️🌎❤️
Seeing this in theaters was like... you see some trailers and ads... and then you see some more, and they keep getting weirder, and once you get it, you're like "wait, how many of the ones I already watched were fake?" Genius.
Fun fact: Les Grossman was Tom Cruise’s idea. The original script didn’t have a studio exec bearing down on the production team and Cruise felt that they needed that weight to make things more interesting. He loved the finished script so much that he decided to play Grossman. “I need fat hands and I’m gonna dance”, he said to Stiller 😂
Brilliant comedy and satire. This movie completely changed my opinion of Ben Stiller. Between this and Dodgeball, Ben Stiller is making some of the best comedies ever.
I appreciate that you picked up on what the character of Grossman was lampooning. That character was suggested by Tom Cruise after reviewing the script for Stiller.
"I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!" RDJ's face when he says that line never fails to kill me. You can see he's so close to breaking🤣🤣🤣
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Finally a reaction that actually gets it. And thank you for being the only ones to recognize Nick Nolte. Loved every minute of this reaction
With all you were saying about how you expected the movie to go, I was just living for that moment when the landmine went off, and you both went "Holy S##t!" Priceless. :)
There are very few movies like this, for obvious reasons. Mel Brooks is the only other director I can think of who satirizes Hollywood, although he does it with more affection. Stiller is a power in Hollywood so he can do pretty much whatever he wants. Among his many awards is a Teen Choice Award for best hissy fit in 2002's Zoolander. Tropic Thunder heavily references Apocalypse Now and Platoon. The scene of Stiller getting riddled with bullets at the beginning is identical to a scene in Platoon where Willem Dafoe's character dies.
From a so called Black man, as a "Black" man RDJ is perfect! Also an homage to his father, Robert Downey, who did the voice of a "Black"man fire his movie Putney Swope (1969). I use the Malcolm X term "so called" because there is no country Black. So there are no Black people. And every human is a shade of coffee brown. Love this movie.
Genuinely my favorite comedy of all time. Like y’all said just so meticulously crafted and well done. Nothing could ever replicate it or nobody could even try.
I remember being legit confused if booty sweat was a real product when that came on in the theater. After watching similar ads and trailers, we didn’t know the movie had started until the Scorcher trailer.
The important thing is also to remember, that he isnt playing a black guy in this. He is playing a guy, who is playing a black guy, and therefore the way he talks is based on his characters prejudice.
I love that you guys find the humour in these comedies, So many people were outraged with tropic thunder, but the fact that you guys got it, just makes you more awesome!
Thank you! Comedy is a tricky thing, it's all about context. Satire specifically is notorious for criticizing while making you smile but still driving the point home. If you can understand what the satire is criticizing then you can definitely find this type of comedy funny. This was brilliant!
This movie is definitely a National Treasure. One of the best comedies ever made and all the actors and writers (esp. Ben Stiller's genius) are underpaid
During the mtv movie awards the year it came out this film was nominated in a category. And as promotional material and a bloody fun time. They got tom to come out as the character and he performed a whole routine. Even got to dance with JLo. Whole performance isn't on youtube but you are able to find bits and pieces about.
hahaha how funny it is for the two, who grew up in a world of political correctness, to wonder whether to laugh or be affected by what they are watching...
@@OfficialMediaKnights it's a great movie I highly recommend you watch it to know the scene from the movie I won't give it away but I would definitely watch Platoon
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you guys are by far the best movie reaction channel. You guys truly understand and appreciate the movies you are watching and give a insightful and entertaining analysis. Great work as usual!
Fun fact: while being tied up on the back of the cow thing, jack black got bucked off so hard he did a full backflip and almost hit his head on a rock. He said it's the closest he's ever come to dieing on set. Sadly, the camra wasnt rolling so theres no footage of it.
Surprised to have read really far into the comments and no one had mentioned RDJ was nominated for an Oscar for this role. Unheard of for a comedic role. The only other one I can think of is Kevin Kline for A Fish Called Wanda... and he won!
Thank you for speaking on behind the scenes in the industry. Its genuinely interesting to hear about how things work and the impact certain decisions can impact so many creatives.
I've never subscribed to a reaction channel before (outside of "The Charismatic Voice"). I truly enjoyed your production insight and conversation about some tough topics. Most reaction channels seem to be just 'emotional shock value'. This was a breath of fresh air, Thank You both very much.
I love Bill Hardee’s audition story for this. He went in and Ben Stiller said he heard he could do an impression of one of the guys on set. Hader did the impression and Ben Stiller laughed like crazy and gave him the part without an actual audition for the character. That’s how he played him too, specifically in the ending scene.
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Ah another movie not allowed to be made today. It was more fun when movie nerds ran Hollywood. Glad you found this one! And the world did not end with its viewing :-). It’s incredible what we are all supposed to be offended by and yet no one can explain why, just that they are. It’s ok to laugh you guys. Multiple times you looked ashamed to laugh like you weren’t supposed to. We should just laugh at what is funny and not worry about what nameless faceless folks on the internet think. Who made this? Ben Stiller did. And we had a better Hollywood and world then. And it was five mins ago. Love your reactions!
you could never make a movie like this today everyone is way to sensitive. but its ok to laugh at jokes i promise.
@@scotter23 lol ok then this movie could be made today for sure. Would it be made no, but oh yeah it could be made.
This is the type of movie that you can watch over and over and keep on picking up on certain details. Totally enjoyed watching your reactions 😂😂
Ben Stiller did not just star and direct this film... he also wrote and produced it.
One of his best.
Ben Stiller definitely is one of my favorite directors. He's not the best, but out of all of the directors in Hollywood that are mostly defined by their style, Ben just does a lot of weird things and sees if they stick. He's got a hugely varied pool of scores, but when he hits, he REALLY hits. The magic combo is if they can get Ben Stiller and Nicholas Cage to work together.
It speaks to how he was able to make Severance with such quality filming and direction.
he's done a few right? Zoolander, there's something about mary,and did he do kingpin? i cant remeber.
@@D0S81 He actually has only completely made very few, He has directed and stared in quite a lot but stared, directed, written and produced... very few. Off the top of my head, i think it's actually like 2 or 3.
Upon checking... 3 films. Tropic Thunder, Zoolander and Zoolander 2. He has done a couple of TV series/releases ontop.
I loved the Walter Mitty movie
When Tom Cruise was asked to star in this movie, he only had 2 conditions. He wanted to dance and wear a fat suit with big hands, and Ben Stiller said "sure". Also roughly 3/4 of the character Les Grossman was improvised by Tom Cruise!
That is genius! He killed it as the studio exec! Probably because he based it off someone he knows 🤣
It sure comes off like Harvey Weinstein.
Was that the intent do you suppose? Long before his scandal broke he was already known to be quite the scumbag within Hollywood.
@@OfficialMediaKnightsit's widely acknowledged that his character was about 90% Harvey Weinstein. It's slightly soured by suggestions it's also anti-Semitic but that has never been confirmed. I just wish he would take more comedy roles, or just let him loose on the Les Grossman character for a whole movie!
Cruise pretty created the character! Ben Stiller said that he asked Tom Cruise to read the script and give his opinions during pre-production, and Cruise said that he thought the story needed another level to it, suggesting that an all-powerful studio exec be involved. Stiller liked the idea and Grossman was created. Cruise also asked that he not be named in any publicity, so his appearance would be a surprise to audiences.
Oh, and Matthew McConaughey’s character was due to be played by Stiller’s frequent co-star Owen Wilson, but Wilson was going through some personal troubles at the time so McConaughey stepped in at the last minute.
Harvey W. has fat hands......
The fact that he is speaking Chinese but still won't give up the black accent is hilarious
i noticed that too, i love when actors can do that. best one i ''saw'' was Mel Blanc who does Bugs and Daffy, do Bugs doing an impression of Daffy but still sound like bugs, and vice versa, instead of just swapping their voices. its harder than just doing accents. As someone who does accents, mixing two like that is tough.
@@D0S81, that is actually seriously impressive.
Well yeah. He wasn't playing a Chinese dude. He was playing a black dude *disguised* as a Chinese dude.
As a black man I thought RDJ in blackface was absolutely hilarious but I didn’t know he was in black face until I saw iron man and it was still funny
Ey! That means the writers and actors involved knew how to do what they did, make some important commentary on what goes on in Hollywood while doing something preposterous!
It was REALLY good makeup
Yeah, THIS is how you do this kind of satire. When people complain that you “can’t do stuff like this anymore” they usually mean they’re mad that they, themselves can’t make racist jokes anymore.
It’s a fine line, for sure, but this is a master class in how it’s done right.
oh god here goes the "as a black" comments... fishing for likes... shut up!
@@extremeking425 yeah no offense this is America so I can comment on whatever so there’s nothing u can do about it except for stop replying on my stuff thank you
As a fellow African American male RDJ's performance had me in tears! My stomach hurt watching this movie. Wasn't offended at all, because they were making fun of Hollywood.🤣
Hes the only actor that could pull it off on a worldwide stage. It was blackface turned at Hollywood. Not making fun of black people. I thought it was smart also. Couldn't be done today as everyone is offended by the sun being too bright and the night being too dark .
One thing many people miss is in the end credits when we see Matthew McConaughey's character flying back to the States on a G5. He took the offer, but used it to rescue his friend.
I did not know that, and it only makes me love this even more.
I watched this several times before it finally hit me.
All these years (I saw this in the cinema and on DVD multiple times) and I never knew about this! Cheers!
@@mustlearnmore4884 It took me a long time to see it as well.
They must have cut a scene that would have made that connection more firmly, instead of him magically showing up at the end.
Here's a funny story about method acting.
When Dustin Hoffman and Laurence Oliver were working on the movie Marathon man, Hoffman played a sleep-deprived character, and stayed up for three days straight for a scene. When he told Oliver about it Oliver responded with "My dear boy, why don't you just try acting?"
There's a similar story about Tim Allen and Allan Rickman during the filming of Galaxy Quest.
Fun fact. Just like he said in the film, RDJ stayed in character as Lincoln Osirus for the dvd commentary of this movie! Its fucking hilarious!
Hahahaah whatttt, no way 😂😂😂
That was indeed a fun fact
@@OfficialMediaKnights And when his character shifted to the Australian accent, he followed suit. It is so good.
He did it as an Australian actor?
RDJ character; an Australian actor playing a African American soldier disguise as a Viet farmer was the funniest thing ever !
I'm a dude, playing a dude, disguise as another dude.. 😂
RDJ did the narration for the booty sweat commercial, and the funny thing about the beginning is that if you watched this in theaters, it played alongside other trailers, so you didn't know the movie started yet lol
That is brilliant! What a way to start your film and what an experience that must've been in the theater. People were probably a bit confused until they caught on 🤣
@@OfficialMediaKnights That's how I saw it in the theater. I was about to make another trip to concessions when the first commercial started until I recognized Brandon T. Jackson. I started yelling to other people getting in my line of vision to sit down because the movie had started. Maybe they were too scared of the Black woman ordering them to sit down to disobey.
"I'm the dude playing a dude disguised as another dude! You the dude that don't know what dude he is!" I loved that line!
His delivery throughout was so damn good! He has some incredible comedy skills!
Best line ever
Yup RDJ playing Lazarus disguised as Osiris. Amazing......
@@gerhen4505 Yes! Most people seem to miss that point. That's not Kirk Lazarus speaking. That's actually RDJ. An extra layer of meta that slips by most people lol. Good catch
He's Robert Downey playing and Australian disguised as a black man. He's the dude playing a dude.. disguised as another dude. He deserves the oscar
One of the most original scripts to come out in a long time for a comedy.
Definitely original! And they managed to drive their point all the way!
@@OfficialMediaKnights thank you so much for this I needed that laugh today.
And bringing in Downey was quite a risk at the time because he was still considered to be too much trouble to bring in on projects. This movie released the same year as Iron man, but hit theaters before that career resurgence for him
Robert Downey ACTUALLY finally drops his character at the end of the DVD Commentary. The DVD Commentary is equally as hilarious as the movie.
thanks, was shocked far i had to scroll to see a mention of that. I mean that was the cherry on top of the Meta aspect.
i recommend to watch it with the commentary, is even funnier
Yes he went from Lincoln Osiris to Kirk Lazarus and finally RDJ with his voice.
This is, without a doubt, the gold standard for meta comedy. Just the idea of actors playing actors playing characters alone is well worth it.
RDJ fighting his face back into a scowl after grinning involuntarily is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. This movie is such a classic. Fun fact: I actually recognized the Jefferson’s theme song before it was remarked on and I was already nearly in tears.
This is hands down one of the best comedies of all time. RDJ somehow managed to nail that char and make it funny without being really offensive..I have never ever seen anybody else been able to pull that off
Why do you think they had Toby McGuire and the whole “everybody’s gay sometimes” line.
It was to establish that this dude goes insanely far into it so much so that he most definitely had intimate relations with Toby. Just for the role.
That’s really the only way it was to be handled. And why the majority of people don’t find this particular role to be offensive. Instead it’s epic.
28:20 “For 400 years, that word has kept us down.” 😂
I can't get enough of it;especially the way RDJ said "you about to cross some fuckin' line."😂😂😂
Few people realize that’s a theme song from the iconic sitcom “The Jeffersons”.
It probably won't surprise you to know that RDJ was nominated for an Oscar for this role.
Shame he lost to Tugg Speedman.
He woulda won if The Dark Knight didn’t come out the same year
@@hugechunkydragon8984Exactly. I felt a bit bad for Downey Jr. being up against Heath Ledger that year. Ledgers win was 100% certain (and well deserved).
"Who the criky f$ck is half squat?!" This is RDJ's magnum opus 🤣
I laughed so hard when he called Tugg "Captain Simple Jack" 😂😂😂
Getting offended at the Crocodile Dundee joke while keeping in character as a black American killed me.
"Pump the brakes, kid. That man's a?national treasure." 😂😂
"an incredibly tan RDJ"
Oh bless your heart... lol
That is the funniest and most tactful description of RDJ's character in this.
"Spit that script $hit out!"😂😂😂
*blinks and grins like a maniac*
That brief moment of RDJ breaking character for a couple seconds with that half smile was just sooo mint 😂😂😂
Such a great line! RDJ was so epic!
@@razorfett147 one of my favorite scenes. He just looks so goofy. And that smile is so infectious, especially knowing it's a genuine character break.
@razorfett147 so glad they left that in.
So proud that they refuse to apologise for this film.
And they shouldnt. I dont see what they have to apologise for.
cant stand this "we exist in modern times so we know better and are better" mindset, especially after a certain ovid sickness proved them to be wrong. no actually you arent smarter, arent more "educated", arent more "sensitive to racial issues" than any other generations simply because we were born in "modern times" . Its been proven we are just as dumb.
The only people mad about this are this new generation who are mad at literally everything. Theyre constantly mad at comedians and actively boycotting them wherever and whenever they can, then ignoring people who say things and actually mean it.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaisereminds me of boomers constantly cancelling literally everything they don't like, anything unchristian, anything slightly weird or out of the ordinary etc. it seems we've come full circle!
@@hopthefencetofreedom wtf?
You know you're watching a good satire when you start scream-laughing.
From what I have heard, Stiller originally wanted Cruise to play the agent. After reading the script, Cruise told Ben that he needed to have the studio perspective to tie it all together. So, Ben added the studio part, gave it back to Cruise and Cruise said he would play the studio exec but only if he could have fat hands and dance.
Actually the agent was originally supposed to be played by Owen Wilson but he had just tried to kill himself and was struggling mentally so Matthew took that role. Tom was only ever supposed to give him a critique of the script and suggested the movie exec les Grossman. That's the only role Tom even considered or was asked to play in it
apparently jack black was doing (or just got) Kung Fu Panda at the time and wouldn't stop talking about it on set - so they added in Ben Stiller's love of / killing a panda LOL
That's awesome never knew that
I don't drop character until I've done the DVD commentary. Ain't no lie. I watched the commentary.
No way…he was still in character!? 😂
@@OfficialMediaKnights yes. All the way until the last 10-15 min.
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@@OfficialMediaKnights He played a hardcore thespian in the movie, and then did the commentary so hard that Ben Stiller remarked on how he -- RDJ the person -- was just showing off how good of an actor he was. Ben apparently felt showed up like his character in the movie! haha
I think the line "Alpa, when you wrote 'I love da pu$$y, was ya thinkin' about danglin' your dice on Lance's forehead?" doesn't get enough appreciation 🤣
Loved your reaction and your insight.
This movie is one of my absolute favorite comedies. I remember watching it in theaters on the same day as Iron Man 😄
What do you mean "you people"? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "YOU PEOPLE"? Hahahaha. Love it
The fact that he was able to keep a straight face through all that! 😂
I don't get it.
@@Nekotaku_TV You wouldn't.
You have to be this tall to ride.
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This is IMO a Hall of Fame comedy. There's a lot of great comedies, but for all the crudity, this one is a notch above most, because of all the meta layers and excellent performances.
I can’t believe you guys never saw this! I’m ecstatic you hadn’t cuz it’s an absolute TREAT to watch your reactions!!
That means a lot to us! Thank you for watching these with us 😃
Where ben stiller did the pose in the beginning of the movie with epic music was from a vietnam movie called Platoon. Definitely worth a watch.
It’s on our list! Gotta give it a watch soon 😄
@@OfficialMediaKnights It's a classic, and part of director/writer Oliver Stone's informal trilogy on the Vietnam War, the other two movies being "Born on the Fourth of July" (1989) and "Heaven and Earth" (1993), both great movies as well. Funnily enough, Tom Cruise is the lead in "Born on the Fourth of July", and to this date it's my favorite of his performances, and in "Heaven and Earth", Tommy Lee Jones delivers some absolutely haunting scenes.
Praise God! Music to my ears!
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Another fun fact for you, when Ben Stiller asked Tom Cruise to do this, Tom actually asked if he could have fat hands and he wanted to dance. He was really insistant about it. Ben Stiller didn't understand this request until Tom did it.
So Tom basically made the Les Grossman character what it was lol.
Tom's angry rant at the drug dealers is simply gold 😂
Robert Downey Jr playing a parody of Daniel Day-Lewis will just never get old
One thing that cracks me up is the first time I saw this movie, I hated it. I think I was pretty newly in the army and expected it to be more serious, and because it wasn't I hated it. Then years later, a buddy put it on one night while a bunch of us were hanging out and drinking. I almost pissed my freaking pants watching it and have been in love with it ever since.
Sometimes you gotta give a movie a second try. We actually do this with every film we’ve hated or disliked because you never know. Sometimes it’s just your mindset! Glad you enjoyed it eventually!
I saw this in the theater. I decided that for the first time I'd watch a DVD commentary. It was worth it. It's still the only one I've ever watched. RDJ deserves an award. 😂
I was dating someone who made me watch movies I would never watch. This was on the list..... By far one of the funniest movies I had ever seen. Downey Jr.'s performance was AMAZING! He talked quite a bit about the experience. He LOVED it.
Loved your reaction! I thought Denise was going to bust a gutt!
This was incredibly funny! The Hollywood criticism left and right, the actors delivering these lines flawlessly while keeping a straight face! That’s how you do it! Thank you for watching this with us😄
The characters in this movie are basically parodies of actual people in Hollywood. The action star, the warshed up comedy star, the extreme method actor, etc. This movie is a satirical take on Hollywood and I love it!
Pretty sure Jack was parodying Real life Robert Downey Jr.
This generation has no idea what he was before iorn man. He was unwell to say the very least. Anyone under 25 only knows him as the hero that literally saved the universe and that's honestly inspiring. Him saving his own life was a public miracle.
I’ll never not watch a reaction for Tropic thunder. Truly one of the greatest comedy movies ever made IMO
at least... Im not the only one with that very habit! :D
As much as I enjoyed the reaction, I enjoyed the post-movie chat even more! So insightful and genuine, and appropriate to the film. It is indeed a minor miracle that this film got made and on such a large scale, and also that it is as good as it is. Major props to Ben Stiller (and Tom Cruise!), and to our Media Knights for taking the time at the end to explain their thoughts and feelings so well.
As a side note, one of my favourite bits that never really gets mentioned is at the end when we see Tugg Speedman’s fellow nominees, featuring Sean Penn playing a blind guy and Tom Hanks playing a guy in a wheelchair! Both actors had been accused of doing exactly what Tugg did with Simple Jack, so I loved seeing that! I’m guessing they both must’ve given their permission for their likenesses to be used as well, so good on them for being sports.
I'm just telling you as a movie watcher that I love this reaction from you even though I've seen so many from others I want to tell you how enjoyable it was to watch with you guys. People have been waiting for you for this moment. My life is completed on this journey of Tropic Thunder reactioners.😂❤😊
That means the world to us! Thank you for watching this with us ❤️
Ben Stiller though ... his face expressions are awesome 👌🏼
RDJ ... wow, best 🙏
Jack Black ... ridiculously brilliant 👌🏼
Hilariously listening to actor Jay Baruchel “the kid” playing Kevin Sandusky, - shouting cuss words left and right knowing he voices Hiccup from How To Train Your Dragon makes all his interactions 20 times more funnier to me LOL.
He doesn't get enough credit for this movie. Too many good performances and he gets overlooked.
@@ZwiekszoneRyzykoI agree, he’s so good in this. He plays the one “normal” character amongst all the “insecure” ones he’s working with and that contrast legit makes the film even funnier. Ben Stiller wrote a great comedic script for EVERYONE in this movie.
Sadly, this is the last documented instance of Kirk Lazarus surfacing for air and where we get to see him as he was. Later that year (2008), he would take on herculean task of becoming Robert Downey Jr, playing Tony Stark, playing Iron Man. A role in which Lazarus has become consumed by, and has not broken character even once in the last 16 years, even raising a family as the Robert Downey Jr character.
Truly method.
So many movie references: Platoon; Blair Witch; Close Encounters; Apocalypse Now and more.
He took the money and the plane,but he used it to save tug. Quick scene in the end shows him on the plane with his son.
I love you guys. Probably the most entertaining and savvy reactors here. But I can tell you guys struggled with this. Like you sometimes didn't know if you should laugh or not. I promise you, you're suppose to laugh at all of it.
Audiences completely understood the joke in 2008 (it being a satire of Hollywood). RDJ was nominated for best suporting actor Oscar for his role.
The only contentious thing about the film that was discussed was how frequent the "R" word is used. Not that it was used in general. People STILL understood what Stiller was making fun of (Hollywood's self importance, apathy, and cheapening of real people's struggles and experiences).
Ya, seems like so many of the inside jokes went right over their heads along with the countless memes....
One can tell they don't react to many Comedy's....
I agree, Absolutely the best pair of reaction and reviewing of movies. I am so glad I came across them. Watched about half of all they did so far and will watch all.. very talented pair here..
If any of you haven't seen The Gentlemen, you definitely should. Guy Ritchie absolutely crushed it, and McConaughey is great in it.
As a black man, seeing Robert Downey Jr play a black man is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen in my life 😂
Jeff Portnoy had his gun hidden in his 'prison wallet'. 😂
Great reaction! Not only is this an awesome movie, but I can say that I got married at the same time where some of this movie was filmed. I was in Kauai in July of 2007 and stayed in a resort 2 down from the scene where Les Grossman had the remote feed with the crew - my wife and I walked through the set either before it was set up or after it was taken down. I also flew in a helicopter over the set/scene at the beginning where the jets blew up the tree line (saw the treeline and the tents from above - assuming before being blown up as I didn't see anything burned).
I could watch Les Grossman dancing for hours
This is If "screw it" and "wtf" was a movie and im here for it. Everytime i need a laugh i put on this movie. Prob wont be a movie like this in a long time! So ballsy hahahaha
Lol factsss!! Honestly, we both were amazed it was made even back when it was! The unforgivingly harsh critiques of studios were relentless and hilarious!
American Made. One of Tom Cruise's best in my opinion. It was a crazy true story.
Under the radar movie.
Pun intended.
I love how RDJ literally did the commentary in character.
Stiller losing it while talking to RDJ is a spoof of Marlon Brando/Martin Sheen in Apocalypse Now's climactic scene. Fantastic film, I know you guys enjoy Coppola
I absolutely adore this movie. I think it is Ben Stillers best movie as director and as a movie fan I love this satirical point of view to the industry.
I didn`t recognize Tom Cruise until I saw the credits. Love every scene with him in it. Especially the first call of flaming dragon and Tom yelling at them. Ben asked him if he wanted to be in this movie and Tom said. "Only when I have huge hands and may dance!"
Every role was casted and written amazingly and everyone did a great job. You see and feel the mental issues every role in this movie has.
Absolutely amazing work of art
I’ve never been a fan of chocolate or energy drinks, but to this day I still want some “Booty Sweat” and a “Bust-A-Nut Bar” 😂😂😂
This was when everyone had a sense of humor and DIDN'T CRY ABOUT EVERYTHING 😢❤
The main point a lot of people miss with Robert Downey Jr.'s "Full R****d" speech is how Hollywood tends to treat acting rolls that involve the handicapped and LGBTIQA+. You might've noticed in the pictures at the end that's what every actor other than Ben Stiller was nominated for before Kirk announced the winner.
The disability films definitely dominated the Oscar’s in the 99’s and early 2000s. A lot of them were great but some of them were definitely distasteful. It stopped being about the characters and more about getting praise from the academy.
Oh absolutely!! It's astounding that people with disabilities, who actually belong to the LGBTQIA+ community get overlooked for parts they are right for and it's still happening. Same thing goes for them casting a white man from Australia, paying for his genetic surgery to play a Black man in a Black part and not hiring someone who is actually, you know, Black.
Oh, like Disney's last 25 years.
I saw this movie at the theater and loved it. Thanks for letting me see it again through your eyes!
RDJ was amazing in this and actually was nominated for an Oscar for best supporting actor. Terrific movie that could never be made today.
Never. Today people get personally offended when their clothes are still damp from the dryer... from their own dryer. I think the term is dryphobic.
Absolutely, nothing messed up or offensive about any of the humor in this movie! It's pure gold!! No apologies.
Tom Cruise stole the show for me. After this came out I read somewhere they were working on a sequel of sorts starring Grossman character. Then Cruise surprised an audience at some awards show in full characters & I was psyched af. Then I never heard anything else about it.😔
See ya!
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Denise's laugh reminded me to recommend "Amadeus"! Milos Forman made a timeless masterpiece, it's worth watching it for sure!
Good shit for not taking yourself too seriously, Toby McqGuire.
My favorite satire, together with Team America!
America, fuck yeah!! Lol
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I sense - waves hand like a Jedi - that I like your comment!
Seeing this in theaters was like... you see some trailers and ads... and then you see some more, and they keep getting weirder, and once you get it, you're like "wait, how many of the ones I already watched were fake?" Genius.
Fun fact: Les Grossman was Tom Cruise’s idea. The original script didn’t have a studio exec bearing down on the production team and Cruise felt that they needed that weight to make things more interesting. He loved the finished script so much that he decided to play Grossman. “I need fat hands and I’m gonna dance”, he said to Stiller 😂
McConaughey is the BEST agent EVER !!! Lol...
Long live Tivo 😂
I love how you two kept thinking you knew how the plot was going only to have the carpet pulled….this was such a well done goofy movie!
Brilliant comedy and satire. This movie completely changed my opinion of Ben Stiller. Between this and Dodgeball, Ben Stiller is making some of the best comedies ever.
I appreciate that you picked up on what the character of Grossman was lampooning. That character was suggested by Tom Cruise after reviewing the script for Stiller.
"I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude!"
RDJ's face when he says that line never fails to kill me. You can see he's so close to breaking🤣🤣🤣
Hahahah that line and the delivery was so preposterous and amazing!
@@OfficialMediaKnightstheres a reel on youtube of the raw footage from that scene it's pretty fascinating
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Finally a reaction that actually gets it. And thank you for being the only ones to recognize Nick Nolte. Loved every minute of this reaction
Tom Cruise said he would only be in this movie if:
-he had fat fingers
-he would dance
Not a huge fan of the man, but that is honestly iconic
Him being the studio exec was the perfect choice. He embodied Hollywood’s true face!
With all you were saying about how you expected the movie to go, I was just living for that moment when the landmine went off, and you both went "Holy S##t!" Priceless. :)
There are very few movies like this, for obvious reasons. Mel Brooks is the only other director I can think of who satirizes Hollywood, although he does it with more affection.
Stiller is a power in Hollywood so he can do pretty much whatever he wants. Among his many awards is a Teen Choice Award for best hissy fit in 2002's Zoolander.
Tropic Thunder heavily references Apocalypse Now and Platoon. The scene of Stiller getting riddled with bullets at the beginning is identical to a scene in Platoon where Willem Dafoe's character dies.
This is by far the best war movie y'all have ever reacted too
Woah! And we’ve got some pretty heavy contenders 😂
From a so called Black man, as a "Black" man RDJ is perfect! Also an homage to his father, Robert Downey, who did the voice of a "Black"man fire his movie Putney Swope (1969). I use the Malcolm X term "so called" because there is no country Black. So there are no Black people. And every human is a shade of coffee brown. Love this movie.
Genuinely my favorite comedy of all time. Like y’all said just so meticulously crafted and well done. Nothing could ever replicate it or nobody could even try.
I remember being legit confused if booty sweat was a real product when that came on in the theater. After watching similar ads and trailers, we didn’t know the movie had started until the Scorcher trailer.
RDJ's performance is not offensive because it's not demeaning or degrading. I know some who speak in this manner. Especially during the '70's.
The important thing is also to remember, that he isnt playing a black guy in this. He is playing a guy, who is playing a black guy, and therefore the way he talks is based on his characters prejudice.
I love that you guys find the humour in these comedies, So many people were outraged with tropic thunder, but the fact that you guys got it, just makes you more awesome!
Thank you! Comedy is a tricky thing, it's all about context. Satire specifically is notorious for criticizing while making you smile but still driving the point home. If you can understand what the satire is criticizing then you can definitely find this type of comedy funny. This was brilliant!
Did anyone kick up a fuss about this film? I don't remember it
There Is no fucking way in hell they could make this movie today 🤣 Tropic Thunder is a treasure we have to protect at all cost.
Which is sad
This movie is definitely a National Treasure. One of the best comedies ever made and all the actors and writers (esp. Ben Stiller's genius) are underpaid
Actually, Downey Jr. said on Rogan "Well, you CAN.....".. But there was a healthy dose of sarcasm with that comment.
Naw, sure they could. This movie was never as controversial as everyone seems to think it was.
I think he was serious. It just that few big name actors would want to put their name on the project and the backlash would be bigger.@@ricardorgomez
During the mtv movie awards the year it came out this film was nominated in a category. And as promotional material and a bloody fun time. They got tom to come out as the character and he performed a whole routine. Even got to dance with JLo. Whole performance isn't on youtube but you are able to find bits and pieces about.
anyone who doesnt like this movie could never be my friend
'We dont negotiate with terrorists.' Not only is it meta for Cruise, but he's a frigging film producer... lol
The fact these two laughed even when they thought they weren't "supposed to" gives me hope for this lost generation
So lost. Sure.
@@EmoDragracer Better believe it.
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“I AM TALKING SCORCHED EARTH MOTHER FKR” that scene fkn kills me every time🤣🤣🤣
hahaha how funny it is for the two, who grew up in a world of political correctness, to wonder whether to laugh or be affected by what they are watching...
The making fun of Platoon was hilarious
Missed that one since we still haven’t seen Platoon 🙁
@@OfficialMediaKnights it's a great movie I highly recommend you watch it to know the scene from the movie I won't give it away but I would definitely watch Platoon
@@OfficialMediaKnights can’t recommend it enough. Young Dafoe and Sheen kill it
@@Griebss definitely every time I watch Tropic thunder it reminds me of Platoon
@@OfficialMediaKnightsWatch _Apocalypse Now_ and then _Platoon._ They parody both, perhaps _Hamburger Hill_ too, in different times.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you guys are by far the best movie reaction channel. You guys truly understand and appreciate the movies you are watching and give a insightful and entertaining analysis. Great work as usual!
With all the stupid cancel culture that exists today they couldn't make a film like this, absolutely brilliant. 😂
Fun fact: while being tied up on the back of the cow thing, jack black got bucked off so hard he did a full backflip and almost hit his head on a rock. He said it's the closest he's ever come to dieing on set. Sadly, the camra wasnt rolling so theres no footage of it.
Surprised to have read really far into the comments and no one had mentioned RDJ was nominated for an Oscar for this role. Unheard of for a comedic role. The only other one I can think of is Kevin Kline for A Fish Called Wanda... and he won!
And I still would have given it to him instead of Ledger.
Thank you for speaking on behind the scenes in the industry. Its genuinely interesting to hear about how things work and the impact certain decisions can impact so many creatives.
I've never subscribed to a reaction channel before (outside of "The Charismatic Voice"). I truly enjoyed your production insight and conversation about some tough topics. Most reaction channels seem to be just 'emotional shock value'. This was a breath of fresh air, Thank You both very much.
RDJ is so good, not only was he not crucified for TROPIC THUNDER, he earned his 2nd Oscar nod for it.
I love Bill Hardee’s audition story for this. He went in and Ben Stiller said he heard he could do an impression of one of the guys on set. Hader did the impression and Ben Stiller laughed like crazy and gave him the part without an actual audition for the character. That’s how he played him too, specifically in the ending scene.