LIVE!? - Welding Bandsaw Blades & Startrite Saw
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2018
- New-to-me old vertical bandsaw, great addition so far. Tour of the saw, then some blade welding with TIG. And the usual shenanigans, of course.
So my "interlacing" joke backfired. Oh cruel world. Always something, eh?
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Music: "Apocalypse" - SYBS - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
5 years on and this video is *_STILL LIVE_*
Old Tony, your dedication is amazing
I can't believe how creative this channel is. There're so many lessons to be learnt for many ( me included )
Alex French Guy Cooking you here aswel lol i never expected to see a professional onion cuter and metal cutter on the same page
sometimes he starts explaining a cavet and then i realize how i can use that is my daily work flow. grant it i not a cnc jedi master like tony, but rather the jar jar binks from the macguyver school of engineering. keep the good works tony u2 alex.
For sure mate! Funny story... I watch your videos because of TOT making the pasta maker for you!
Honestly I can't believe how creative your channel is, you're like the French version of Alton Brown for me.
Many thanks, Alex, for sending me to This Old Tony. I would never have found him without you. And thanks for the great content, good food, interesting builds, sense of humor, problem solving and video editing on your channel, too. I can see why you and TOT wanted to collaborate.
GO STF! My old Alma Mater. Our mascot was the horse you rode in on.
South Tulsa Farming University.
@@DavidRichfield I may steal that.
"*Rode* in on"
Support STFU athletics! Go Noobs!
I got my BS at STFU.
The Meta of Metal
Second for second your videos have some of the best production value of any TH-camr out there. Between the live commenting and the Möbius strip - if there was a ”fifth wall” for video editing. You broke it.
Tony made me laugh when he edited in the "subscribe" to the band-saw settings, and LOL at the (ancient) ASBESTOS setting on the dial. But the calm set-up with the V-Block and Blue Sharpie and then seeing the blade come around with ink on the opposite side and then the WORD: Möbius was LMAOROTFL, and more when Tony showed the completed metal Escher image.
BRAVO TONY !!!
I was waiting for him to throw the tablet through the band saw LOL
Greg Dent so did I!
me too!
I think that actually counts as a phone these days
Greg Dent me too!
He did @11.42
I have tried brazing and silver soldering bandsaw blades, and after lots of trial and error, mistakes, and wasted time, I found that the secret was....I went on Ebay and bought a blade welder. Hope this tip helps someone.
Tig weld then anneal the weld
Most entertaining channel on The Tube... You had me at Mobius!!!!!
agree. f you want however some more, check out "ave". he is fun as well.
The trouble with Mobius bandsaw blades is that half the time they are cutting back into the guides.
so he didn't have you until the very end of the video?
When I tried that saw trick at the end, my clock started running backwards. I'm not sure what that meant.
Jay Zenitram
It means that you were thinking about Grace Hopper while making the Möbius strip.
4 dimensional band sawing can be done with other blades, but I recommend Escher brand - Swiss and expensive, but much better distortion of reality.
thisnicklldo I tried Giger and Beksinski blades in the past. Do great at cutting through existential angst. I'm still getting ptsd flashbacks.
Escher was Dutch
Cut with a Schröedinger once, dropped and lost the final piece and I never knew if it was actually cut. Next I'll try Occam's razor; it's said to most probably do a easy job.
After 30 years of working on large bandsaws in saw mills, it still amazes me that welds in 13" wide and 40 to 50 foot long bands can run with welded teeth and cracks for 10 to 12 hours and still hold. That"s not a normal run but it happens. The best saws are from Udaholm in Sweden.
I can't believe I fell for that live thing. And nice job on the blades, the first time I tried this I was convinced it's bad practice and bound to fail, but to my amazement the blade worked for like 20 minutes
Phil Vandelay that comment made me check out your channel... love it! you need more subscribers!
Just Subbed!
I think easiest way to weld this is use those purpose designed resistance welder, I tried gas welding and while I only welded training sections (used a broken and too short bimetal blade for this) I have mixed success, and it's very skill intensive since there's a very fine line between a good joint and melting holes through it. I found it better to just get barely a puddle on it, and join both sides than to try and melt the blade all the way through to join it. It also helps to melt the blade a little more, and push the joint together to weld it. However you'll have to anneal it good and it won't be as strong as the unwelded saw body itself. Seems success in welding bandsaw blade is mixed with TIG, MIG, or even stick (has anyone tried to stick weld bandsaw blades?) It sounds like a good thing to put on a welder resume, "successfully welded bandsaw blades with an oxyacetylene torch". I mean if you can weld this you can weld anything.
For carbon steel seems better to braze it, but bimetal won't take braze alloys at all (it snaps clean off).
so, when you're live and can't edit the video, you just cheat and edit the timestream?
I totally LOVE your kind of humor. These videos made my day!
Brilliant as ever!
Thanks Alec!
@Dann isNot A man but a deepfake 1 what is wrong with you?
Nice machine, A vertical bandsaw is one of the best addition to the shop.
For a metal cutting bandsaw nothing beats solid bandsawguides. Either hardened toolsteel or carbide. Yours look a bit worn ;)
The run smoother than roller guides and you dont roll chips into the bearing/blade.
Btw: Matthias Wandel disaproved the three wheel bandsaw.
Btw2: Selling a shaper is a major crime in most European countries.
That explains the strange behaviour. Buyer showed up in a black ski mask and one of those voice changer boxes. I didn't say anything at the time, figured it was just their European flair. ;)
Black market shapers. Really?
Why is that Stefan?
What if I just used cast iron?
I'd love to see someone make a solid carbide guide with the side guides ported for coolant so it forms a hydrodynamic bearing.
I prefer magnetic blade guides. Optical blade position sensors, superconducting electromagnets on 4 sides of the blade to keep it centered, and a fairly large electronics / power supply. No concerns about tooth clearance, but it can be a problem when cutting steel.
Why do you need a saw, you always cut steel by hand or sneezing?
The möbius bit at the end got me. Thanks for all your effort.
Really it was just the Sharpy bleeding through... probably over did the annealing.
Explains the variance in cutting speed.
Tony Live your even better than recorded.. Unbelievable.. 😁
You're show will never get boring and learned so many things from you and other tubers you all know well.. I wouldn't know what to do without you... technical and humorously 😎😎😎 Thanx
Congratulations. You have managed to find that niche of the internet which relates to machining and fabrication through dad humor. 250000 subscribers and sometimes your mom. Something tells me there will be more.
Edit: And, as of now, 21 people who have no idea how useful a Mobius saw blade really is. Pearls before swine.
Carson McMahon: The biggest benefit of a "Mobius Bandsaw" TM,
Is it doubles the blade's lifetime because it has to go around twice to get back to its starting orientation! 😏😉😜😎
Also, as it has only one side and one edge, construction is greatly simplified and it used far less material...
Carson McMahon : Good point!
However, heat treating and final sharpening take twice as long.
😉😜😎
Carson McMahon Mobius was that black guy in the Matrix? ;-)
My five years at STFU were some of the best of my life.
Travis J I Corcoran Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
Every time I open my mouth and try to teach the kids about life's lessons, I am reminded by them where I got my diploma! STFU!
Scientific &Technical Functions University.... but how T F do they know?
Apologies, but I liked your comment so much that I ruined the fact it had 69 likes.
I don’t know how I missed this episode till now but this is one of the best! Thank you!
I've been following this channel for ages now and know to expect jokes, but that last bit about turning the blade 180° caught me way off guard. I'm crying with laughter! Best TH-cam channel for sure. Thanks for all the time you put in Tony. It's inspiring as a hobbyist machinist myself!
Amazing work on the Escher illusion, I did a full-on double take.
I really like the mobius blade idea, I've been looking for something to start cutting work on my Alcubierre drive, this might just do the trick! Thanks again Tony!
glad to see some one else saw that
If only the Alcubierre drive was confirmed possible. We just havent found a way to satisfy the negative mass requirement of the Alcubierre drive yet
I’m so glad that you never repeated that little notification thing in more recent videos. I love your stuff man, but by the 4th time in this video I almost had to quit. Thank you
PROPERLY mixing information and comedy is QUITE a knack. Very entertaining
5:11 sneaky sneaky subliminal messaging
oooh the value of putting a smile on my face. I need a tony of my own in my garage.
Great spot mate. I catch them normally but this one was a bit tough.
Good catch! I completely missed that one.
I CANT FIND IT
His video editing is really good
Bolted bandsaw blades will eventually work lose due to vibration and flexing. Pop-rivets are the way to go.
FXM or just tie a little knot
nyloc nuts or a spring washer do wonders ;)
You guys make things so difficult. Superclue and activator are all you need and you're back up and running in under 30 seconds. You bunch of amateurs!
Just slip a cotter pin through there. Or an old keyring. #lifehacks
FXM Put both ends through a growler and magnetize. Presto! Easy assembly & disassembly for all applications forever. 🤔🙄
I totslly expected the sharpie Mark to show up on the opposite side, but I aldo expected this to be the pun 😂
The thing with the möbius strip and introducing a 180° turn before welding just got me lying on the ground dying because of laughing. This channel is simply gold 🤣🤣
Your videos are difficult to watch when my eyes fill with tears of laughter. Your warped sense of humor (humour for the English speaking population :-) ) is BRILLIANT! ...and I just thought you were going to cut that wood on the bandsaw, not use it as a violent weapon :-) Your videos are so good that even the comments are great! As someone else commented we need more than a like button for your videos, we need a "really, really, really Like" button. So you finally made a profit with the shaper.
Oh goddamnit Tony’s gone too meta. We can’t contain the continuity field. Meme overflow imminent
TOT live? What's the world coming to? We've already had more vids this year than in practically all of 2017... Not that I'm complaining...
You make me want to buy every piece of equipment, tools and machinery that you show on your channel. I'm addicted. Thanks Harold.
Love your channel! Heck, I didn't know a thing about a shop before I started watching, but you keep it interesting all along, and explain everything in the tedious detail it takes to seep through my noggin.
Möbius saw blade and the forced perspective at the end are without doubt your best jokes yet.
Not sure why you need a bandsaw when your finger snapping (11:10) cuts pretty straight!!!!!
I think Tony got that technique from Chuck Norris
Ah you see, this is a common misconception. Snaprifting is not a cutting process, because the space-acoustic-wave created by the snap creates a miniscule rift in the crystalline interconnection of the workpiece, momentarily tearing a rift in the material. Since the rift is not filled with air, it is practically a vacuum, and ambient air is forced into the rift, pushing it apart.
That's why the technique cuts almost in a perfect plane perpendicular to Ampere's right-hand rule normal vector.
for curves!
Assuming... One must be very careful in the direction that one Snaprifts!!!!!
Who says he needed it?
Want is enough justification. 🤣
Tony. This puts a smile on my face for the rest of the week. And whenever I see a band saw from now on. Thanks for the video.
thanks!
I should probably be commenting on video with a relevant subject, but I gotta say- you almost single handedly got me to buy my first machine, we’ll, like 90% tot TH-cam, and 10% college instructor. Now with the south bend 9 finally refurbished, (If painting=refurbishing) it’s time to get started! Thanks
Absolutely hilarious. The string was genius.
One trick for getting the ends fit up is to hold the blade blank in kind of a big U with the cut ends together. Then twist one of the ends over so the two ends of the blade are laying flat on each other buy the teeth are pointing away from each other. Hit both ends on the grinder simultaneously. When you match them up to weld it doesn't matter if the ends are square or not, because they with be opposite angles and fit up regardless.
I have so much fun listening to any of your videos, whatever the subject, always fun.
You are a very knowledgeable man and funny too love your humor! I have wanted to get into Machining my whole life just never have but watching your channel really makes me want to learn as much as I can about making whatever I want to make!. keep up the awesome work brother
...And the penguin says, no, that's ice cream!
Looks like you blew a seal...
You give Us so much happy minutes, you are a good n smart person I like your video, thank you
Told my dad I got a new bandsaw. First thing he saws is “how long is the blade. I’ll braze some new ones for you.” He’s been putting together blades for sixty years. Your video brings back good memories. Thanks TOT !
This is excellent. Education mixed with the perfect amount and style of comedy. And the effort put into it! Keep it up man! This is true TH-cam gold
Nice work. Glad i 'saw' this video.
awww! I got so excited for a live stream. Take my like anyways, This Old Tease
I like this channel. You have more dad jokes than I do.
I always learn something on your channel. You have an awesome sense of humor. Don't change a thing.
You rock.
Slow internet, I actually posted this comment 1 week before you went live with this video. Any rate, I made the mobius blade for my chop saw and now it powers my house. Thanks for the tip! Next I'm going to make a mobius garden hose, I hope to make my water meter run backwards!!!
Was the shaper making eyes at the surface grinder or bench grinder? Rumour has it the bench grinder goes both ways...
I hear there's an app for that. It's like tinder for stationary tools.
I wonder why there was an app called Grindr ...
I'll get my coat ...
But I thought the only thing you couldn't make with a shaper was a profit?
Or cuttlefish
Regarding STFU . . . "I don't think that phrase means what you think it means!"
Great video, as always Tony. I just love how smart and varied your gags are - the tightened string to fix the audio issues, the Mobius strip blade to make seemingly impossible 3D shapes - just genius!
I have HAD IT with this channel. Only gonna watch like 3 or 4 more years and that's it 😁
time to make a stand!
You had me until you pulled out that super duper microphone.
Man that's a huge cellphone.
Hill Top Machine Works
No, it's just that he has Itty bitty hands ! 😊
What kinda trickery was at the end ? 21:46 🤔
BarharborBasher he just painted the other side of the band too, but not all the way arround, then backed it up and started again.
Truth be told, I was waiting for him to cut that phone in half.
I saw Mobius strip once, it was not a pretty sight.
A Mobius bit mi sister once. It was pretti nasti.
come on mate realy 😂
I tried a Mobius strip joint once. I still don't like to talk about it.
He was rather klein though :)
I cant belive this still is live, must been live for well over a year, congratz to this old Tony, and all the other People that is a live
I can only speak for myself, but would like you to know how much I appreciate all the effort you put into your videos. It's a lot of work, but for me that makes you the brightest shining star on youtube.
Thanks for the insights, education and entertainment!
thanks Patrik!
Nice metal cutting gag for this video! Just simple tin snips to get through a bandsaw blade, eh?
So how did you really do it? Hydraulic diamond-coated encabulating laser cutter??
Oh no, R.I.P Shapey McShapeface :´(
I have the 24" model of the same saw. Lovely British engineering. I have just bought a 4" toolmakers vice. Using the guides on the table I slide the vice between them. I have just cut up some 1/4" angle to make some brackets. The pieces are true to within 0.002" - almost as good as a milling machine. I love my saw! Just changed the oil in the gearbox. It was like cold butter! Probably not changed in 40 years!
I have an Enco 14" band saw *with* blade welder (240V) and I'm thinking of TIG welding my blades to see how they compare. One thing my saw has over yours is adjustable guides. The back support (above) and the sides (below) are 3 separate parts, and it's a snap to adjust for different blade width or thickness. Cloning this head would give your life new meaning. I thought about replacing it with rollers but the hardened surfaces are doing great after 20 years, so no need. I absolutely *LOVED* the mobius gag at the end, and the Penrose square was priceless. God how I love your channel.
mica, polystyrene, rubber hard, asbestos, subscribe... LOL :'D
(I really admire the work you put into these...and your sense of humor; every time I re-watch, I find something else... brilliant: you really make my day, Tony!)
If only it wasn't live, you could have edited out the interlacing joke.
This Old Tony, not sure how i missed it, but just now found your channel. I feel like a kid in a candy store going through all your old videos, getting caught up. I really like the content and the humor is second to none. I raised your subscribe number by 1, a welcome addition to my subscribed list.
Good stuff Tony, love the comedy and the machining. Great video thumbs up.
Just keeps getting better.
you had me there at the start
I would never repeat your jokes in public, thank you for taking this task off us. :) great video.
I love this channel. I learn a lot, while being entertained. Thank you Tony.
oh the subliminal subscribe messages. i do wish i could subscribe more than once..
I’m subscribing with 4 accounts 🤭
One personal the others for work
The cutting speeds for subscribe seem off to me.
Hey Tony. Nice saw. I'm going to miss seeing the shaper cam. I think STFU is South Tuscon Finance University :)
You can tell you put a lot of effort into this one. One of your most entertaining videos in my opinion. Up there with time travel. Loving this spate of TOT we are getting currently. Keep up the good work.
I have to admit the shenanigans at the end were the funniest thing I've seen so far today.
I was like.... did I miss something?
Kept thinking you were going to test it on the Samsung.Those snips did a great job on that bi metal blade. I think you(or I) might like a video on making ball bearing guides. Lastly, I want to rebuild my $60 drill press, but can't figure it out. There was an awesome TH-cam video, but I can't find the link.
I can't believe your "instant cut metal" gag is still funny enough to get me every time...
Tony, your family, friends and neighbours are so lucky to have you, so are we. I wish I could buy you a drink some time but it's not likely, so the next time you open up a beverage, imagine me a total stranger fan of yours handing it to you and saying; Cheers mate.
thanks!
This Old Escher.
But you were using the shaper all kinds. I was almost convinced I needed one. Now how the heck are you going to make keyed slots ? I would like to see it tones.
Square endmills!
Another great video, thank you Tony! someone has probably commented about this already but here goes… On the “cut both ends of the bandsaw blade as square as possible“, a trick I learned in junior high school (The years of school before high school) shop is to hold the blades (both sides of the blade) in the orientation they will eventually be welded in, one side in your right hand and the other in your left hand, now twist them together and lay them on top of each other and hit them against your grinding wheel making a very flat grind. When you un-spring the blade back to its normal position, whether the cut is square or not the two ends of the blade will meet perfectly and the blade will be straight for welding. I’d send a picture, but - you know, TH-cam and everything.
I understand all of that except for the "twist them together" part. What do you mean?
This was brilliant! And that mobius gag at the end was pretty clever.
We use those same Road mics on the podcast. They work great.
21:40 *existential screaming*
Very high quality videos, both from informative and entertainment point of view. You're a gifted person, congratulations !
Smiling laughing in the morning. Priceless
The "like" button has become woefully inadequate. We need something that captures how we feel. Maybe something like a "Radar Love Button"; but I get my own "Stalker" button. Southern Tomsk Farmers University Alumni Sovkhoz Services just get a button that says "Gotterdun-wellsh-ire".
Why didnt you tell us you had mobius stripped it before you started cutting? Of course thats why it was cutting chunky, it was cutting with the back side every other revolution.... you left us guessing, Tony
In my youth I ran a pair of production bandsaws for awhile. The primary use of the blade welder wasn’t to make new blades, but rather to replace a kinked section on a blade that otherwise still had a good bit of life. And personally I would take a bandsaw over a shaper every time. Recent subscriber, enjoying the channel.
Great video! Had to "pause" the video at the end and do a double-take. Educational and entertaining as usual. KEEP THE NEW VIDEOS COMING! Thanks!
Tony, please ignore the haters! Never stfu!
What are you talking about? STFU is a great university!
Yeah, South Tulsa Farming University, my Alma Pater.
STFU Alex. Oh, and !!!
4 minutes in... When is he gonna cut that Samsung tablet in two??
copeej 21:52
This is the exact video I needed. I have a $200 carbide blade that snapped, and a TIG Welder, just haven't worked on bringing the two together yet.
I had a dream where this was hardened by the rapid heating and cooling, and only needed to be heated enough to turn (say) blue, or some color we associate with springs. I use silver-soldering for this job, but can imagine there might be less damage in general by welding if you could get away with it. I might try this with very tiny TIG torch and small electrode, small filler wire. Inspiring!
So, I guess we need the Mobius blade for that upcoming tesseract project..?
I believe you could do a video on sharpening pencils and make it as fun as the latest block buster movie xD GO STF!
This is my favorite channel!
Every time a video end I'll looking forward to see next one! Best channel on TH-cam!
This is, by quite a large margin, _the _*_most_* live and unedited video these two eyes have ever seen. Also my own eyes.
I love that Road Microphone. Quality.
Congratulations on 250K subs! I hope you do some nice metal working on it- maybe a belt buckle?
My offer to donate gold and diamonds to the play buckles cause still stands.
Every home-gamer's workshop needs a möbius bandsaw!
Thanks, Tony; that was an instructive budget of giggles.
This is literally the pinnacle of what can be achieved on TH-cam. Congratulations to you Old Tony, everyone may now retire.
haha.. thanks ArT!