You’re always going to struggle launching a FWD car with lots of torque, wheel spin and torque steer is expected, the cars computerised launch control system can only do so much to prevent wheel hop and spin. Having driven an i30 Sedan N and now a current owner of a Sonata N Line, the Sonata N Line is an absolute bullet, launching off the line is an absolute nightmare, it shreds the tyres and struggles to put its power down, the MK8 Golf GTI won’t struggle as much as it has less power and torque to deal with but what you should be looking at is roll on acceleration because that is where these cars absolutely shine, that is real world performance, these cars from a roll are absolute bullets but all people seem to care about are numbers regarding 0-100 km/h and 1/4 mile times and I get that because it sells, it’s all marketing, but real world performance should be based on in-gear acceleration, FWD cars would always struggle off the line, especially against AWD and RWD depending on the car of course, but race an AWD from a roll and you’d most likely win due to less drivetrain losses. The 60-110 is actually incredible that isn’t far off Kia Stinger GT terriority, a car with almost an extra 100kW and 140Nm.
@Russell If you say so Russell , I have a 1980's fwd 950kg 240whp on 10 psi low boost setting tune and get no wheel spin and I don't have a lsd. A correctly set up fwd car can be just as quick as a rwd . My car can also stop better than 99% of the cars on the road with a 100kmph to 0 of 24.7 metres. Like I said it comes down to set up and driver ability not fancy mechanical and electronic gadgets and I have gapped all the vehicles you have mentioned including the one in this video.
Congrats on the N-Line, its a great all-rounder. Ive got its Kia twin, a 2021 K5 GT, and I also had serious wheelspin off the line, although was kinda fun at first. Those Pirelli tires were dead at 30k miles, but Ive got stickier Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires on now, and have seen much less wheelspin, even with them being all seasons. Can only imagine how it'd go with summer tires.
Yup couldn’t agree more. My Toyota Aurion from a roll is quite a mover. Even a stock WRX STI or Audi RS3 Hatchback couldn’t gap me from a roll. From a dig it’s a different though.
@@davidgriggs3967 any tuned car will most likely beat a stock car, it doesn’t matter what year it’s from, however a modern tuned car will have a high chance of beating an 80s tuned car as technology has advanced very far from that era. And most 80s car didn’t heavily rely on safety features as modern cars do, which is a main reason why so many modern cars weigh more than the cars of yesteryear, if you want to compare a MK1 GTI to a modern MK7 or MK8 GTI. A MK1 GTI weighs roughly 800-900kg, whereas a MK7 weighs 1300kg and the new MK8 weighs 1500kg, almost double the weight over the years due to safety regulations.
@@joshs088008 I think it plays in its own league rn . You want a track toy you buy Megane RS, you want a comfortable daily with some punch you go with a GTI
@@OldManMick in Indonesia its going to be equivalent to 115000 AUD. Half of that number will be stolen and corrupted by Indonesian govt officials. As usual.
Need to revert back to seperate heating/air con controls. Tactile controls are much safer and less distracting than the current arrangement. PS. Those rims look terrible compared to previous generation rims.
In my opinion the mk7.5 is far superior. This mk8 looks bland as hell, also it seems Vw have skimped on quality of material in favour of boring useless tech.
@@jaredscott4829 and yet they drive, and feel completely different. 🤷 The Leon is closer to the R in performance than the GTi, but a more fun and engaging.
This how the hole shot launch went against the one I gapped . I told him at the next set of lights "your launch control is not intimidating anyone and that wheel spin is breaking hooning laws " 😂
Today i measured my mk8 GTI (DSG) with dragy and the fastest run was 7.5 Seconds. I dont know why but it became so slow 🥲 between the Shift from 2nd to 3rd is a big gap of almost 0,5 Seconds before it shifts. Anyone knows why?
Hello Tridan, Did you find out the reason why you are only achieving 7.5 seconds? In this test they obtained 6.06 sec, and I saw another Australian test where they obtained 6.00 seconds. To obtain the 6.00 sec, the reviewer went into the touch screen, "sport" mode, "vehicle", "exterior", "brakes", "ESC system, Activated", "ESC Sport", foot hard on the brake, foot hard on the throttle, then on the instrument panel should show "Launch Control Program active" (showing about 4,000rpm), then let go of the brake, there will be a little bit of wheel slip, and let the car propel itself up to 100km/hr. This reviewer also then tried "ESC Off", there was lots of wheel spinning, obtaining 6.68 sec. Also, have a check of the tyre pressures. Hopefully the above is helpful. Cheers.
Golf R is the pinnacle of performance for VW, it is now in hyperhatch territory with the MK8 generation making 235kW and 400Nm (420Nm for the wagon), and now there’s a special “333” edition with 245kW. The GTI will always play second fiddle to the R. Think of it like the WRX and WRX STi, Ford Focus ST and RS etc…
A v6 camry in its semi manual mode doesn't let you shift when you want to. It will take it up with the committee programmed in its computer system before letting you shift, while sometimes rejecting you for your "own good". V6 camry has good power sure, but if you enjoy the tiptronic mode then the camry won't be fun
@@trancenut81 yeah, tell that to those guys from Felicity Ace and Fremante Highway. Btw have you seen brand new 2023 Mercedes EQE burning a house while sitting off in a garage. Make sure you check that out. Cheers.
Fun begins at 3:02
Wish they'd gone back to physical buttons for the steering wheel controls and even the air con
You’re always going to struggle launching a FWD car with lots of torque, wheel spin and torque steer is expected, the cars computerised launch control system can only do so much to prevent wheel hop and spin. Having driven an i30 Sedan N and now a current owner of a Sonata N Line, the Sonata N Line is an absolute bullet, launching off the line is an absolute nightmare, it shreds the tyres and struggles to put its power down, the MK8 Golf GTI won’t struggle as much as it has less power and torque to deal with but what you should be looking at is roll on acceleration because that is where these cars absolutely shine, that is real world performance, these cars from a roll are absolute bullets but all people seem to care about are numbers regarding 0-100 km/h and 1/4 mile times and I get that because it sells, it’s all marketing, but real world performance should be based on in-gear acceleration, FWD cars would always struggle off the line, especially against AWD and RWD depending on the car of course, but race an AWD from a roll and you’d most likely win due to less drivetrain losses. The 60-110 is actually incredible that isn’t far off Kia Stinger GT terriority, a car with almost an extra 100kW and 140Nm.
@Russell
If you say so Russell , I have a 1980's fwd 950kg 240whp on 10 psi low boost setting tune and get no wheel spin and I don't have a lsd.
A correctly set up fwd car can be just as quick as a rwd .
My car can also stop better than 99% of the cars on the road with a 100kmph to 0 of 24.7 metres.
Like I said it comes down to set up and driver ability not fancy mechanical and electronic gadgets and I have gapped all the vehicles you have mentioned including the one in this video.
Congrats on the N-Line, its a great all-rounder. Ive got its Kia twin, a 2021 K5 GT, and I also had serious wheelspin off the line, although was kinda fun at first.
Those Pirelli tires were dead at 30k miles, but Ive got stickier Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires on now, and have seen much less wheelspin, even with them being all seasons. Can only imagine how it'd go with summer tires.
The Michelins also have helped add a bit of cornering grip.
Yup couldn’t agree more. My Toyota Aurion from a roll is quite a mover. Even a stock WRX STI or Audi RS3 Hatchback couldn’t gap me from a roll. From a dig it’s a different though.
@@davidgriggs3967 any tuned car will most likely beat a stock car, it doesn’t matter what year it’s from, however a modern tuned car will have a high chance of beating an 80s tuned car as technology has advanced very far from that era.
And most 80s car didn’t heavily rely on safety features as modern cars do, which is a main reason why so many modern cars weigh more than the cars of yesteryear, if you want to compare a MK1 GTI to a modern MK7 or MK8 GTI.
A MK1 GTI weighs roughly 800-900kg, whereas a MK7 weighs 1300kg and the new MK8 weighs 1500kg, almost double the weight over the years due to safety regulations.
For only 245 PS and big problems with traction off the line, the acceleration times are really impressive
Probably not 245ps since Volkswagen usually underestimates power from factory
Is slower than its competition in class from 10 years ago? Even with that flash DSG gearbox.
@@joshs088008 I think it plays in its own league rn . You want a track toy you buy Megane RS, you want a comfortable daily with some punch you go with a GTI
@@naturalbornhuman3450 there's Focus ST and Hyundai i30N.
Here in Europe you can get Focus ST as wagon as well
@@vvevvevvvv don’t know about focus st but i30n is way sportier than golf
Exciting stuff starts at 3:02
great bro 🙌🏼
$55,000 AUD....man, the price is getting up there 😯
Just under $62k driveaway... BEFORE options... add both option packs and you're at $69k!
In saudi its really cheap
ive bought it, well worth the price tag
@@OldManMick in Indonesia its going to be equivalent to 115000 AUD. Half of that number will be stolen and corrupted by Indonesian govt officials. As usual.
@@Mav86asian oh man that's absolutely criminal!
Hi Brett, have you had a chance to do the 2023 Tiguan R?
Did VW finally decide to let you use press cars again?
Yes
@@PDriveTV Are you guys able to get hold of a T Roc R?
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Need to revert back to seperate heating/air con controls. Tactile controls are much safer and less distracting than the current arrangement. PS. Those rims look terrible compared to previous generation rims.
Apparently not backlit as well, so fun times at night.
In my opinion the mk7.5 is far superior. This mk8 looks bland as hell, also it seems Vw have skimped on quality of material in favour of boring useless tech.
Is nice, but i still think i prefer my Leon. Bit more poke, and like the copper accents.
same car
@@시진핑-k8l Built on the same platform, but different in many, many ways. Interior and engine to start with.
@@asum307 Superficial differences, the important bits are all the same.
@@jaredscott4829 and yet they drive, and feel completely different. 🤷 The Leon is closer to the R in performance than the GTi, but a more fun and engaging.
@@asum307 Nope, they feel like a Golf, because thats what it is. And no, it isn't. They go like a GTI 180, engine is identical.
This original sound?? In Sport mode
1st to 2nd it really struggles and looses time 0-100 sadly
Sound like my wife
Snoring 😂
Surely do one on the i30 hatch 2.0L
N/A pleaseeeeee
Better tires and all good
Мне кажется на нем нет смысла ланчевать, вся мощь в букс улетела😂
This how the hole shot launch went against the one I gapped . I told him at the next set of lights "your launch control is not intimidating anyone and that wheel spin is breaking hooning laws " 😂
Things you never said*
@Jared Scott lol you where there were you?
If so you no I'm not lying ,and your still just a salty dsg owning latte drinking gen butt hurt 😄.
Today i measured my mk8 GTI (DSG) with dragy and the fastest run was 7.5 Seconds. I dont know why but it became so slow 🥲 between the Shift from 2nd to 3rd is a big gap of almost 0,5 Seconds before it shifts. Anyone knows why?
Hello Tridan, Did you find out the reason why you are only achieving 7.5 seconds?
In this test they obtained 6.06 sec, and
I saw another Australian test where they obtained 6.00 seconds.
To obtain the 6.00 sec, the reviewer went into the touch screen, "sport" mode, "vehicle", "exterior", "brakes", "ESC system, Activated", "ESC Sport", foot hard on the brake, foot hard on the throttle, then on the instrument panel should show "Launch Control Program active" (showing about 4,000rpm), then let go of the brake, there will be a little bit of wheel slip, and let the car propel itself up to 100km/hr. This reviewer also then tried "ESC Off", there was lots of wheel spinning, obtaining 6.68 sec.
Also, have a check of the tyre pressures.
Hopefully the above is helpful.
Cheers.
My Megane RS Ultime is in another universe😂.
Bmw 128ti surely has to be next
One day. ❤
RIP front rubber
Just buy model 3 rwd. Faster, more storage, no gas means economic, no dsg problem etc.
Do the mk8 GTE
You can’t get the Golf GTE or GTD in Australia.😢
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Touareg goes 6,5 so it’s same ? Weird
Still can't compete with an EVO X from 2010
It’s faster on the philip island circuit than an Evo X.
3 seconds at 60...maybe keep traction control on
We tried that as well, but it bogged down and returned slower results.
Completely overpriced. Price bubble bursting as we speak thou…be careful what you pay
How is it overpriced when 330i and C300 Mercedes have gone up to 94000AUD? All cars are overpriced then.
Withouth launch control.
I always thought Golfs were way faster than this
Though I guess the R's are now where you get the speed from nowadays
@@TheThomarse exactly that. Golf GTi has never been about all-out power, golf R is actually supposed to be the fast one.
Golf R is the pinnacle of performance for VW, it is now in hyperhatch territory with the MK8 generation making 235kW and 400Nm (420Nm for the wagon), and now there’s a special “333” edition with 245kW.
The GTI will always play second fiddle to the R.
Think of it like the WRX and WRX STi, Ford Focus ST and RS etc…
Such a yawnfest.
Why bother?
Grab an i30N
Because that i30N is a hyundai and has zero heritage?? lol
@@Mav86asianenjoy your $70,000 slow hatch with heritage
@@wheresmycheese8511 i will. Thanks. GTI is legendary.
Same performance as a V6 camry
A v6 camry in its semi manual mode doesn't let you shift when you want to. It will take it up with the committee programmed in its computer system before letting you shift, while sometimes rejecting you for your "own good". V6 camry has good power sure, but if you enjoy the tiptronic mode then the camry won't be fun
Except one day that turd of VW would self combust itself leaving you with thousands in repairs.
This isn’t an EV. EVs are the ones which self combust.
@@Mav86asian - EV's 100x less likely to combust than these dino juice driven monsters. So no!
@@trancenut81 yeah, tell that to those guys from Felicity Ace and Fremante Highway. Btw have you seen brand new 2023 Mercedes EQE burning a house while sitting off in a garage. Make sure you check that out. Cheers.