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- Neurodiversity and innovation often go hand in hand, but does that mean visionary entrepreneurs get a free pass to say and do anything they want? Bonobos founder and mental health advocate Andy Dunn shares his experience navigating bipolar I in the midst of running a successful startup, offering lessons learned on his journey to wellness and steps to create a future where everyone is able to "dream crazy dreams" -- while being held accountable.
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Thank you so much for having the courage to speak out. Mental health needs more sunlight and honest conversations without judgement or shame. This is a health issue not a personality flaw.
Needs more sunlight... what a very positive way of saying it. Love it.
Well said. People hide mental illness as if it's a crime. We need to talk about it more so going to therapy can be treated as a normal thing.
What are you talking about? *Everyone and their mothers brothers friends uncle “opens up about mental health” these days!*
The Media, Politicians and Big Pharma are working to convince the public they have a Mental Illness that NEEDS to be treated with pills
Yes, you. You're probably scrolling through the comments, like I am, reading all these motivational comments. If you are reading this at night, you should get some sleep, and don't stress about everything going on in the world, or what you are going through. Don't dwell on things from the past, don't stress thinking about your future. Just live your life, because you only get one. Do whatever makes you happy, not what other people want from you. I hope you do the same and have an amazing day as well!
Thankyou
This about sums up what one needs to hear when they are down and most likely in the comments here. Good work human
Humans Assemble 🦸♂️
Thank you 🙏
True, I'm at my third day of stressing, going to crash soon.
I had three manic episodes in my life. They were the best things that ever happened to me in my life. During those episodes I felt nothing but love, peace, connection with the universe. The rest of my life is oppositely filled with depression, anger, & resentment.
Andy speaks so honestly and has made more public progress on this topic than anyone I can think of. I love the insight around mental illness and entrepreneurship, which rings so true…
Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for your life testimony. Some have no idea the struggles one or a love one goes through with mental health. It's a day by day process but with help it's possible to keep moving forward in life. Don't give up on each other.This was very informative and very well said. God bless
Andy, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS!!!
This talk is very vulnerable and a much needed message to be heard. Thank you.
I live with bipolar 2 and borderline. Diagnosed 2 years ago. This was nice to hear.
Wonderful talk, Andy. Thank you.
Totally agree with the part, near the end, about how we are not "illness x" or "trait x". I worked in an alternative mental health drop-in centre when I was young. Folks with issues considered schizophrenic or psychotic kept identifying themselves with their diagnostic and presumed all their issues were related to it. So I often contradicted them, insisting that "You are [name], with all sorts of normal Human issues, and you have some that are labelled schizophrenic or within the broad category of psychotic issues". The same applies to many other traits, mental problems, even our past actions, etc.
Exactly. Person-first language. That being said, some people don't like it if it's a big part of their identity. I think it depends on how they view themselves. From what I know, a lot of the deaf, blind, and the autistic community believe in identity-first language.
Daaang, the courage/strength & inspiration is real with this vid. Thanks a lot!💯❤️🔥
Wow! Such an amazing TED talk! I was crying through most of it because I can completely relate, however my manic episode was caused by medication not helped by it. Almost 2 years ago I started getting sudden headaches and found out I had developed a brain tumor. After surgery I had a reaction to the steroids which reduced the swelling. That earned me another stay in the hospital so they could safely reduce my medication but I also experienced the "most acute case of steroid-induced schizophrenia" that my physician has ever seen. I feel lucky to have survived it all but also a deep sense of sadness for all that my family had to endure all of that. I understand that I wasn't well and couldn't control my actions but it's difficult to describe. Overall my experience made me so grateful for life and those around me. Life is so precious. If only everyone had the chance to experience excellent health care, that's one of the things that's so sad about living in the US. 😔
Thank you for sharing your experiences, Mr. Dunn.
How much anxiety and depression in working folks could be averted by requiring their managers to engage in weekly counseling? And a blanket rule, no a-holes allowed? Paradise! 🤩
Great Talk thank you for sharing Andy
Great talk, thank you.
This is an amazing Ted talk that I was looking forward to hear. Your Ted talk highlighted meaningful points, "Every strength does have a shadow". People seldom talk or acknowledge this. Love your ideas about the workplace. After working for 32 years I agree with your ideas on it especially for Team Leaders. Your book "Burn Rate" has been one of my favorite reads to this date. Your efforts on de stigmatizing mental health disorders is refreshing and we take note this this disorder fueled your wildly successful business venture. It is good to hear out loud blatantly your statement "that all brains do work differently". (I suspect it is based on individual genetics/diet/daily habits/hormonal shifts.) This will be explored by doctors/scientists for years to come. You are indeed extremely blessed that you have all this access and are on your path to optimum living. Cant wait to see what your going to do next or explore next.
This was amazing! Thanks 🌷
This is beautiful ,so touching and many lessons in this 14minutes talk.
An amazing person with an amazing family and friends. You have courage!
Love this! Thank you! I correct agree more.
Thank you for sharing. I relate and share your dream! Keep fighting the good fight. I am fighting as well for equal access to care at Greater Texas DBT
The most amazing speech about such topic I've listened to so far. 🎉
Saya kagum dengan kejujuran dan ketulusan Andy Dunn dalam berbagi ceritanya. Saya berharap video ceramah ini dapat meningkatkan kesadaran dan mengurangi stigma tentang kesehatan mental di komunitas bisnis dan masyarakat luas. Saya juga berharap video ceramah ini dapat memberi harapan dan motivasi bagi orang-orang yang mengalami gangguan bipolar atau masalah kesehatan mental lainnya. Saya rasa kita semua bisa belajar sesuatu dari pengalaman Andy Dunn.
My god, this man is hilarious and moving at the same time. What he said is absolutely correct.
One of the best ted talks imo
Great talk! Congrats Andy, this talk will undoubtedly lead to positive change. Well done.
This was a powerful talk
So helpful 🙏🏾
This is beyond brave.
Fourteen minutes of meaningful points!
Well, i sure got a lot i could say on such a subject. My mind and everything that mattered to keep intact in my life, and i still haven't completely bounced back. The memory is just too difficult.
Easily one of the best Teds available!
I have bipolar 1 and have experienced psychosis similar to Andy three times. I've been lucky not to hurt anyone else though, and not myself in any irreparable way.
My experience differs from Andys in important ways though. I'll offer it here as an alternative.
I was diagnosed at 14 and have dealt with this much on my own, with the help of family and a good doctor for the first four years. I did not like the effect of Lithium or other medication and quit gradually at 17-18, then took no medication in my twenties. Sleep regulation, some meditation, and various other self-regulation kept psychosis at bay, while I mostly enjoyed the periods of hypomania without too severe financial repercussions and faced no real depression, only periods of fatigue and low energy.
I rarely used psychiatrists as they are really expensive and usually just tell me things I already know. I had a really good one for about a year after the last psychosis though, until she fell ill herself.
After I had children at 28 this regime of no medication gradually became too tiring and too unstable. A tyrant boss with issues of her own pushed me over the edge during two 100+ hour work weeks of constant harassment, and I fell into psychosis shortly after delivering a big project, age 30.
After trying Lithium again for a while and still not liking it I tried using only half the minimum dose and found the perfect match for me. I've continued doing that for the last 12 years and have lived a happy life with three children, a wife and good jobs since. It's a struggle at times of course, but I'm mostly very happy and count myself blessed.
I know several people who struggle a lot with their bipolar condition, and I don't mean to say this is something you can just overcome or easily live with. It's not. For me it's been a positive though. I wouldn't want to live without it, and have felt like that almost from day 1. While the cost is high, for me it's manageable (so far) and gives so much in return.
I'm writing this so that you who are bipolar, or wondering if you are, may see that this can be managed also for those who aren't rich, or who doesn't feel psychiatrists helps.
You should still keep in contact with health care though, and try to have some family or friends that can check in with you or help when you feel a rough period is coming. I've never met anyone who can deal with this all on their own, and it's a highly risky illness both financially and personally. Good luck out there ❤
Note about medication: For most some level of medication is absolutely necessary. There is nothing wrong with that. Do consult with a doctor/psychiatrist before considering changing or quitting. The doses I got at 14-17 were also twice what they give today (in Norway), with resulting side effects. The dose I use today is 1/4th of this, 42mg x2. My grandma used 8 times (!) this in the 90ies so both needs and practice vary a lot and have changed greatly since I was diagnosed in 95.
Your comments are important. Thank you
This is exactly what it's like to have bi polar 1.. people need to know. I stick to myself and live off disability for a reason. I still haven't had the courage to relive my manic episodes with anyone.
"We need to make mental health care fundamentally acceptable"
* All applaud *
"...actually and universally accessible"
* stony silence *
Aaaaaaaaaah americans at their peak of hypocrisy 🦅
As someone with bipolar disorder, this entire talk resonates. Everything in it is what I want to say others about BPD.
Thanks to TED ❤
We need more honesty in this world, too many lies just to have bigger pockets
The openness that Andy talks about his life is something to shoot for.
Yes but only when you are ready and feel like you are at that point . Does sound good if the audience is opem
Can you imagine being on all those pills though. This subject needs constant upkeep and updating and research. I grow with truth and new truth is always being seen plus the1000 plus years of what feels like deep wisdom we all have by being alive
wow awesome
That was corageous
bravo e coraggioso
Thank you. I'm going to stop saying "I'm bipolar" and say "I have bipolar".
You are fortunate to have all that support. I built up a successful company built but then lost everything after a manic episode. My company, my home and all my possessions including beautiful things I'd collected throughout my life as I could not even afford storage.
Instead of helping me when I got sick, people took advantage of me and defrauded me. I have never recovered and never will.
I wish I had the courage to end my life.
Even those few friends that stood by me, I pushed away eventually as I was so ashamed of my fall from success to poverty and homelessness.
I never hit a partner and would never harm anyone and it is important to note that most bipolar people only hurt themselves. I hurt myself through addiction and now realise I was "self-medicating" to cope after losing everything and with feelings of isolation and suicidal thoughts.
I am no longer homeless and have a small but nice and safe place to live. I'm no longer an addict. But I don't speak to anyone anymore and avoid people. I've never known real human kindness only people who wanted to use me.
Lastly, my own son who suffers from the same condition took his own life. I blame myself as he inherited it from me. He had two half-siblings and they didn't suffer. After that, why continue. I have no one, nothing and am just a drain of humanity. I'm basically already dead.
Suicide should be legal and supported by the state if you are mentally ill as I am and cannot be fixed. I know this will get backlash but why should I just suffer?
You won't get backlash from me. I just want to send you a hug.
Your life story resonated with me, bar losing your son. I'm so sorry for your loss. I've just lost my brother (in our 40s) and I feel your pain and despair.
I realise you have lost faith in humanity and I did too. I'm petrified of people and generally avoid society.
But I've pushed myself to connect with safe opportinities (church, art therapy groups) and have found some decent people. People who listen without prejudice, people who care. I'm starting to trust again.
I've known little more than a life of abuse and mistreatment. But lucky to have a few good friends but they can't be there 24/7. CPTSD and BPD diagnosed. Trying to raise my son as a single mum.
I struggle every single day.
Less amplified since I reached out to people again. Yes there's been disasters, but also rays of light.
Please don't suffer.
Please reach out.
Pick up the phone to organisations that support mental health issues. They are there to listen to you without judgement.
I'm in the UK, there are many helplines. I hope wherever you are, there is similar support.
Sending you love and light 💞🌟
I wish you the best, please take care x
@@susanstardust4706 - Hello. I'm also in the UK.
I'm really sorry to hear that you have suffered at the hands of others. I edited my post to reflect the fact that most people with bipolar don't physically assault their partners as I don't want people watching this and thinking we are abusive.
I didn't say anything in my first comment as I didn't want to come off as judgemental about him but for me violence other than self-defence is abhorrent. I'd never hit a partner. I understand he was going through a delusional state. I dated a bipolar woman I met through support groups and she attempted suicide before I met her thinking she needed to do it to save the world, so I understand how bad it gets for many.
I went to get help and the bloody councillor mocked me for talking too much after that I never returned. I got so hyper about going to them I was having a mini-episode in the meeting. I told them that and he still rolled his eyes and laughed at me.
He phones and apologised but WTF. He knew I'd stopped seeing people at all during the pandemic and never reintroduced to society. I'm basically retired on a pension but only in my early 50s. I also receive mental health benefits and housing to top this up. So I now get by OK.
Sorry waffling.
I don't know what you went through but I experienced abuse. I was abused as a child. I went to a Catholic boarding school and the obvious happened with a priest. My parents found out and after this, I and my brothers and sisters were raised atheists. So I understand faith helps some people but for me, it is just another brick in the wall. My mother was also abused by the church and so she took it hard after several of her kids were. She put us in the exact same environment that she was in and the same thing happened.
So I see religion as a scam. They live in palaces and stately homes while the poor were kept as peasants working in their fields. No disrespect but I am just explaining why I cannot seek help in these places. The church used to kill hundreds of single women in Scotland just because they wanted to stay out of marriage to keep their independence. It is estimated 2600 were killed as "witches" but that was what they were really doing. Then the church took their land.
Sorry super waffling but I never talk to anyone.
I am glad you are getting help and support.
My son was a lovely person. I wrote more in my edited comment saying gI blame myself as I am the one whose family it runs in. He had half-siblings and they didn't go through any of it. He lived with his mum and stepfather and only he had this curse.
I worked in the creative world. It's common in creative people.
Sorry for going on but really at a crossroads. I feel I have to do something or end things. I was devastated after waiting years for government-funded therapy and support only for it to all go wrong before it started.
I know I should "reach out" but reaching out always goes wrong and makes me feel worse about myself.
Sorry you don't need to read all this and respond. Sorry to bother you.
@@susanstardust4706 - I'm very sorry about your brother. I should have said that clearly.
Losing people is hard. Thank you for responding. Take good care of yourself.
Interesting stuff
“Assholes should straight up not be accommodated”.
YES!!!!
More humans like him please.
Dude's rock
I never talked about this to anyone and they may say it's not true cause I never heard of it. Their was no reason to share I I wanted and only hoped and wished for.
Lucky for you to face issues headon. Thx for sharing. If only we all had access to mental healthcare. Insurance companies limited their ability to get cost effective care
Meds have never worked for me however I have found a miracle with micro dosing recently. Working wonders in my life
Good
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When Andy said , Does that remind you of anyone ? First thought 'George ' the movie Charlotte . ❤
I an so privileged to listen to this TED Talk . ❤
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I only ever ate burger king in Europe but the case can be made that if it s not kriptonite to you, you may have a case about being the messiah (on the European continent to be exact).
I love when I go mad. It's the only time anything makes sense.
you wont love it as much after youve destroyed your life..
@@jdogsful I already did that.
@@MagdaleneDivine lol. samesies.
Almost lost me at seeing a therapist 2 times a week. Who can afford that?
Glad he made it the main point by the end. Fact of the matter is, even if people recognize the solutions, often times we can't afford or don't have access to them.
*psychiatrist...which would be even more expensive than a therapist.
@@teggyegg Thanks for pointing that out, yes that makes it even more poignant
I believe his ending speech he talks about wanting to see mental health becoming more affordable and assesible.
@@eun-hyebrown2192 I agree👍
i am blessed to see my shrink a few times a week for free, but only because of the kind of health insurance i have and it’s telehealth. therapy SHOULD be free or hella cheap because everyone should have access to it
I personally just admitted I was in fact bipolar. I thought I could find another name for it but a rose by any. Other name still be just a rose.
I have a feeling that if I'm diagnosed with my conditions, many people would stop giving me so much criticism.
Artists, scientists... the outliers, the fringe.
Psychopaths are also misrepresented as our leaders in business and gov. So, not unexpected.
Good boy
I just hope that there are some jobs out there to earn a basic income and stay sane (or if you prefer to say: not get any mental illnesses).
Sound problem 🙂
Might sound a bit unpopular but there are people who live with bipolar and have learned to know the triggers, live in a disciplined fashion, contributing to society while not needing the lifetime medication and its side effects.
But it might be that I am missing something here as no psychiatrist or doctor would actually recommend this approach as it relies too much on the perons own willpower and determination.
Do you want to develop a laser-sharp focus to stay on task, create stronger connections with yourself and loved ones, or simply create a quiet time ritual?
If you’re feeling lost or don’t know where to start💡
Remember: a routine doesn’t have to be complicated! Sometimes three steps are all you need to get a sense of structure. 👌
I want to do a Ted talk on I’m gonna lose my mind. I cannot take all this technology wtc
If you are in a high risk management system, it will beter you feel stressed, because you have normal feeling to the environment,i dont think it is always healthy to be strong..... How a worse and fantastic value in your social
Pretty sure ppl were supposed to laugh after his Burger King line
There is a lot of wisdom from people's bi-polar episodes... we need to start harvesting insights....bi-polar is simply the brain not being able to group thoughts into patterns... nothing big or serious...
It feels good to hear other people's life experiences and it show that we are all having to kind of illness and are trying to fix the world problems without fixing self. The American story sounds like Hitlers story, a story he writes as he go along but doesn't seem to fix any mistakes which in the end show he messed up even when he didn't say it because many were killed some lived to speak on their experiences. This is also a story that could be told from the inside of the womb on how creation start in the woman and what she has that is a copy of her man and dad before the blast off.
Neuroversity.
Check it fact checkers. It's there.
sounds like my first mushroom trip.
1st comment
What meds? Not lithium. Here in the middle of nowhere that seems to be the only and to me unacceptable answer. What are you doing to make mental health care part of health care? Remove the brains of all the deciders and see how their health improves? Probably no noticeable changew.
tl;dr The cure to bipolar disorder is.... Money!
😂😳🤣😳😂
You're allowed to laugh at the jokes y'all 😑
No professional therapist needed, you just have to live in/create a tribe.
Only a native speaker will understand his speech, it is incredibly difficult
lol
he still seems like an egomaniac
True, but he seems to do more good than harm so it's ok.
Well spoken man but too "gay" for my likability. Also suspiciously proud of being on so many drugs