Which Smash Characters Have Canonically DIED?
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UM- B-b-b-but sora actually- (paragraph)
Okay, I'll leave my paragraph at the door...
We don’t talk about KH lore it will be longer than most College Essays
Bro Kirby lore is less complex
Real
Not really, he straight up died twice now actually
Sora died and got revived so many times that he straight-up doesn’t understand the concept of death and he had to have it explained to him in KH3.
Corrin goes into the “Died in an alternate universe” tier.
Fates had a series of DLC levels focusing on the child units after all their parents died, including Corrin.
Ans so did ness, it has to do with a theory (ITS NOT SANS IS NESS)
I hate that DLC it's so weird and makes no sense at all, I just like the Close counter
Technically Chrom too.
Corrin also kinda dies in the Birthright/Conquest route before the final maps, but he just chats with the characters that have previously died and they tell him to wake up, which actually works.
@@NosretepI mean, he died in Lucina's timeline
One funny thing about Steve and Alex is that both of them die and respawn several times in the CGI trailers that promote new updates for the game, it's probably the closest we'll get to any type of canonical death and cheating death scenario for both of them
And I guess the Minecraft Zombie is undead, I don't know where that would even put him
I feel like that would be the 'cheated death' category.
Something I wonder, the zombies have Steve's clothing and we know Steve dies a lot in the cgi trailers
Are the zombies in minecraft Steve's remains?
Also there is the achievement for using a totem called "postmortal" so yes, very much in the cheated death category
IIRC, Minecraft spinoffs tend to give the characters only one life canonically. The exception was in one of Story Mode's dimensions, specifically the minigame server-based one in Season 1 Episode 8. There, Jesse dies and is respawned in a disqualified section.
The respawn anchor literally exists
Bruh, no Olimar?
Okay, as a Pikmin fan, Olimar has died.
And no i'm not talking about Pikmin 1 bad ending, i mean that in Pikmin 4 the fact that he's a leafling is a crutial plot point and basically confirm us that he died, lived as a plant zombie for a month, and then got cured.
That’s… not death…
@@foggy8298 When his life support system ran out of time, he litetally couldn't breath and died. He has mentioned it multiple times, the pikmin planet (PNF-404) has so much oxygen that it is basically a lethal poison.
Unless Olimar has strong enough lungs to hold his breath for a month, he was waaaay dead.
That's why the pikmin dragged him into the onion after his death, they knew that he died and that turning him into a leafling was a form of resurrection for their captain.
As Captain Olimar Himself, I Must Also Point Out The Bad Ending Of Pikmin One, Despite It Not Being Canon
@@ZombieChicken1310 yes but Pikmin 4 retconned the series… where being turned into a leafling doesn’t kill you in any way and is easily curable using glow sap
And even in Pikmin 1, that’s a non canon bad ending…
And even if it was canon, that’s still not death? He was trying to escape, crashed, and the Pikmin turned him into a Pikmin to save his life…
@@foggy8298 Pikmin 4 being a retcon doesn't mean that the leaflings suddenly stop being corpses tho.
Sure, glow sap cures the leaves, but even the game itself questions how exactly this brings the person back to his former self, considering that... you know, a body parasitically controlled by plant life is clinically dead.
Being turned into a leafling and then getting cured is like dying, turning into a zombie and then getting cured from the zombieficaton. Sure, you are no longer dead, but you used to be.
The process of leaf...ication i guess, and then getting cured is that, death and resurrection.
Olimar belongs to the cheated death tier i guess.
Wouldn't Kazuya count as cheating death? He was thrown off the cliff as a child by Heihachi and then thrown into a volcano at the end of Tekken 2. The devil gene is what saved him in both cases, but the devil gene originally came from the devil himself, who made a deal with kazuya after he landed from the original fall.
But he never actually "dies"
Yeah, that was retconned and now instead of "Kazuya made a deal with the devil for power" was changed to "that near-death experience awakened his devil gene and gave him power".
Kazuya actually has a more concrete death that he cheated, where he was thrown into a volcano at the end of Tekken 2 and was later brought back to life by G Corp some time during the 20ish years between Tekken 2 and 4
The Angel and Devil plot was retconned a while back :( (no more angel). As of now the Devil Gene is somewhat hereditary and originated from the god Azazel. 3 other characters separate from Kazuya have it.
Small note: While Mario, Luigi and Peach never actually died they did all get sent to the afterlife in Super Paper Mario.
Also I think Bowser Jr might've been caught in the same black hole as his dad in Galaxy 1 but it is never directly shown. So he potentially died once.
Those r like books
I think they died, it's just that they died "before their time" and were thus allowed back to the world of the living by Queen Jaydes. Dimentio didn't use a teleport effect on us, he straight up blew us up. They kind of dance around it, but I think you can say the SPM party died.
Doesn’t Domino or whatever his name is actually kill them though?
Shouldn't they turn into Darklings then? Or a Nimbi in Peach's case? Qeen Jaydees tells Mario and Luigi that them being in the Underwhere is a mistake and only those two get sent back by her, whereas Bowser and Peach leave later the same way the leave every chapter. Would be weird that they could just do that if they were actually dead.
Also Dimentio uses the same explosion attack on himself and Luigi at the end of the game and they clearly don't die there.
Dimentio is a master of trickery, using his explosion to mask teleportation is plausible and again the game reinforces that idea later.
you forgot to mention the fact that mario, luigi, peach and bowser all die in the events of super paper mario, sending them to the underwhere (or the overthere, in peach's case) which are the mario universe equivalents of hell and heaven. there's obviously contension on whether or not the paper mario games are canon or not, but i think it would've still been worth bringing up as an example of the mario characters cheating death.
Pretty sure mario and paper mario are different beings considering they meet in mario and luigi paper jam
paper mario 64 is referenced as having occured in other games, like superstar saga and some of the mario party games
@@ven9562 technically those are just story beats that also correlate to regular Mario's world. For example, the Star Rod exists in both PM and normal Mario, but MP8 using it would make zero sense if Paper Mario also happened, given how Bowser flat out won with it in PM64.
Actually, it's heavily implied that Dimentio only pretended to kill them and actually just sent them to the underwhere/overthere using his standard method of dimensional travel. This can be inferred from how Mario and friends don't turn into shades as well as from some of Jaydes' dialogue.
You have to remember that Dimentio was orchestrating his power grab the entire time. Actually killing them, especially Luigi, would have been pretty counter productive.
A better case a blackhole consumed them all in galaxy
Teeny tiny correction
There is only one 'clone' of Ridley.
The Metroid Prime games take place before Metroid 2 Samus Returns. Ridley canonically has the ability to regenerate his body as long as he is 1: alive and 2: able to consume sustenance. After the events of Metroid Zero Mission, Ridley is partially rebuilt as Meta Ridley to continue fighting until his body can regrow which we see is nearly completed at the end of Samus Returns.
After his death in Super, Ridley is cloned on the bottle ship via DNA left over on Samus' suit before being killed again and the corpse of the dead clone is taken to the BSL research station where it is mimicked by the X. The Clone on the bottle ship is an actual Clone while the X copy on the BSL is another species entirely replicating the clone.
And of course Ridley doesn't show up at all in Dread.
This doesn't really change anything in the video as Ridley is definitely dead (so far) but it was just a minor inaccuracy.
It may also be worth noting that the X parasites steal the memories and knowledge of the creatures they mimic.
With the combined facts that they mimicked a clone instead of Ridley himself, and that the X on that station were eradicated, it doesn’t really seem possible for his mind to have been preserved by that process. Still, I would say there’s at least a very small chance that his mind lives on somehow.
(IIRC X in Dread were effectively a separate tribe, after hitching a ride with the Chozo to another planet)
Goodness, I love hearing people explain Metroid lore because it always sounds like deranged ramblings in the best way
The Metroid vaccine basically allowed Samus cheat death.
@@gytrash6167yea but close to death isn't dead.
Who pronounces the word demise as “de-meese”
I do it for jokes like "Dededemise"
But otherwise yeah idk
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Someone who played the game before they fully knew how to read, and never broke the habit of pronouncing it wrong. I still can't seem to stop pronouncing "Ordon" and "Lanayru" as "Oradon" and "Lanaru", even though Ordon is missing an A and Lanayru has a Y. Demise is actual word, though, I don't know how you can go your whole life without fixing that.
-Olimar died twice. Once he was revived, the other was in an alternative timeline.
-Mother 3 has an ambiguous ending where the world ends, but what happens to the characters is unknown.
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young link does canonically die. We find his ghost in twilight princess and defeated timeline also would mean that link is killed in the final battle of OoT which you can technically recreate in the game.
Lucas is most likely dead. It’s heavily implied that everyone dies at the end of mother 3 with the final scene taking place in the afterlife. Although this “technically” isn’t outright confirmed.
Entire Mario cast (except Rosalina) has cheated death with the black hole in Mario Galaxy 1 literally consuming everything requiring the Lumas to recreate it.
Olimar cheats death, basically the plot of pikmin 4 lol
Byleth cheats death a few times, they have canonical rewind powers that they use in a cutscene early on where the did die.
Alternate universe Kirby dies at the end of star allies. Well void termina dies and resurrects to become a new world’s Kirby
Oh and since rob is a real life entity you can just snap its head off or wait until it is unable to function
No no, he was brought back to his human form thanks to Kairi, not Roxas.
Mixed up the names, thanks for clarifying!
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@@Themoo_atcowsgive the guy a break
@@christhenerdyderg3916 well, he said it was riku or roxas that brought Sora back but she is
1. A girl
2. Looks nothing like riku or roxas
3. If he confused them because of Rikku from FFX-2 then that’s an even bigger fail.
There are only two characters that even resemble kairi. That being Namine and… uh… …what’s her name?
Anyways, the point is, Riku and Roxas look nothing like Kairi and Roxas wasn’t even in KH1
@@Themoo_atcows Xion. And yeah, that's true. Of course, he cheated death in 3 as well.
Cloud pretty much dies at the end of Advent Children but comes back after being rejected from the lifestream by Aerith and Zack
But he said no movies or other forms of media are included.
You forgot to include Joker from Persona 5.
There is an alternate path you can go down that actually DOES result in Joker dying for real. If you choose to sell out the other Thieves to Sae, their plan is never executed, and Akechi kills the REAL Joker.
Not to mention when the PTs basically get written out of reality can technically be considered a death
technically, sonic died and got resed in a different timeline, considering they did put out the flame that started the game, so 06 technically didn't happen in 06 and im glad for that
Where’s Byleth?
In FE Three Hopes, which is set in an alternate timeline of FE Three Houses where you play as a mercenary Byleth was destined to kill before the events of 3H, you have the option to kill Byleth, which locks you away from the true ending
FE gets even more cases of dead in alternate universes as a result of New Mystery of the Emblem. The bad ending is expanded into a feral Medeus ravaging the land and a major reveal of TMS is that the Mirages are the spirits that were reduced to their base to keep fighting after this calamity. This somehow extends to Awakening characters as well.
Wait, Tokyo Mirage Sessions actually DOES explain why they’re like that?! I’d been looking for the explanation but could never find it! (Also, no wonder all of the Mirages have amnesia, remembering your own death would be super traumatizing.)
Fun fact: Captain falcon isn’t a name, but a title that’s progressively passed down to successors. With each iteration of smash and f-zero having a different person as captain falcon. Meaning he’s technically “died” about 3+ times now.
We don't know which captain is depicted in smash or its chronology since there are 3: the main, anime and technically the novel time periods. if its the CF from F-zero GP legend which took place in 2201 he would be dead but that game released after 64 so it's likely the falcon from 2560 (original game/chronology) with it currently sitting on 2610, which would put him as probably retired but not dead.
So just like how botw link hasn't "died" in his current incarnation, the captain we see is his joung self or a new one with the other retired.
This list is still incomplete because you forgot Kazuya.
According to Tekken lore, Kazuya nearly dies at the age of 5 because Heihachi, his dad, throws him off a cliff, but survives because of the Devil Gene.
In Tekken 2 after Kazuya threw Heihachi off a cliff, Heihachi comes back to return the favor by throwing Kazuya INTO AN ACTIVE VOLCANO, KILLING KAZUYA!!
Soon after that, a company known as G Corporation manages to recover Kazuya's body... somehow... and try to bring him back from the dead.
Nearly 20 years later, Kazuya is fully revived and is ready to tear shit up once again and eventually pays Heihachi back by throwing his ass into another volcano, permanently killing Heihachi.
Keyword nearly. Kazuya didn't actually die at the end of T2. He was kept alive due to his devil gene (just like how he survived the cliff as a kid). G Corp recovered his body and experimented on it but didn't actually "revive" him
@@gv82089 Uhh no, it directly states in Tekken 4 that he was brought BACK to life by G Corporation. Even on his wiki page, it also states that G Corporation restored him back to life.
@@gv82089 Nope Kazuya did die in Tekken 2, he was just reserrected and piece together in the events of Tekken 3 - 4 due to G-Corp. Kinda like Frieza in the movie Dragon Ball Resurrection of F
"Permanently killing Heihachi" Just you wait. Bro is probably in hell training like Stinkmeaner plotting his return.
@invisanon Nah, bro. If you listened to what Harada had to say about Heihachi's status during the waiting period for the release of Tekken 8, he says IN ENGLISH, Heihachi is completely dead." I shit you not. If he says Heihachi's dead, Heihachi is DEAD dead
Joker cheats death too. He got shot in the head in one cutscene. He would have died but canonically avoids death through the Metaverse. And don't forget about the whole Thanos snap Yaldabaoth does in which the Phantom Thieves just cease to exist. That part is canon too.
Umm, two corrections:
- Toon Link canonically died. The Toon Link from Spirit Tracks is a different character altogether.
- Robin dies as a boss in the Awakening DLC.
Rosalina says that the universe keeps being reborn in similar configurations so basically any Mario game you may be playing as a Mario from a past or future universe.
The Lucario in smash is likely based off of the one from his movie so if you wanna be technical that specific Lucario died
No it can't be because the one in smash can mega evolve, the one in the movie was trapped for a long time before the advant of mega evolution and when he came back he didn't even have a trainer to mega evolve.
@@ravinercf I mean yeah sure the one in the movie didn’t mega evolve because the gimmick didn’t exist yet and you do need a trainer to mega evolve, however… Lucario in smash does not have a trainer his intro doesn’t have him come from a Pokéball so how does he mega evolve then? Also he literally speaks English, name another Lucario that has done that ever and not to mention it’s the same voice actor from the movie
That was in a movie, it isnt valid for this videos criteria.
@@edwincenteno7266 yeah well I suppose so I’m just saying that Lucario is heavily based off of the movie one, it’s not a 1:1 copy of the movie one though so that’s also valid
@@ravinercf there is also the possibility of that specific Lucario not being in the mega timeline, from what OR/AS established.
Ganon also dies in the Defeat timeline. Twice actually. Both times by the hero from Link to the Past, and they're the same guy from OoT. Link kills him in Link to the Past, and again in the Oracle games when he's revived in a botched ritual by Twinrova.
Which means OoT's Ganondorf dies four times in four different games.
To define whether Inklings die, you'd have to define death. Sure their bodies explode when they get "splatted", but they can make new bodies from ink. You can even see their little ghosts fly off.
So is "death" the destruction of the body? Or when the soul moves on to whatever afterlife is canon in that world? *nods philosophically*
A lot of errors in this video.
1: Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser all canonically die in Super Paper Mario and get sent to the underworld.
2: In the arcade version of Donkey Kong Jr "Jumpman" (who may or may not be Mario) is seen to fall from the platform and die in the ending.
3: Tellius (Ike's games) does not take place in the same world as Shadow Dragon/New Mystery/Awakening. They take place in another world/universe and someone some time before Awakening brought over the Ragnell (Ike's sword) and stories of Ike from Tellius to Arcanea. (the main world of Fire Emblem) Universe travel is very much a thing in Fire Emblem through outrealm gates.
4: Marth is indeed dead by the events of Awakening and Chrom indeed dies in Lucina's timeline. Robin doesn't die even in Awakening's true ending because right after the FMV with Chrom finding SOMEONE on the field it shows Robin and whoever you married's endings. (short text in FE games for each character telling you want happened to them after the game finished) This basically confirms that the person found on the field was indeed Robin.
5: The Elibe games, the ones with Roy, take place in a different world than mainline. So he canonically never dies.
6: FE Fates is a fictional story within the setting of FE Awakening, so Corrin is actually a fictional character to Chrom and Lucina. Not dead, but she does temporarily die right before the final boss exclusively in the Conquest route. So she technically counts as "died in an alternate timeline."
7: Fodlan, the world that Byleth comes from, like Elibe, is completely separate from the other FE worlds. Also Byleth is canonically an immortal goddess who doesn't age.
8: Ridley canonically dies for good in Super Metroid. Ridley can regenerate his body as long as he's still alive. During the late game of Metroid Zero Mission the space pirates find Ridley's still alive head and heart and turns him into a cyborg so he can move around while the rest of his body regenerates. This is "Meta Ridley" and is the same Ridley as the one in Zero Mission. By the events of Samus Returns Ridley is almost fully regenerated, but dies for good in Super Metroid after he is fully regenerated. The Ridley in Other M is a clone, and the Ridley in Fusion was an alien parasite replicating his DNA based off Ridley's corpse that was being stored in the spaceship fusion takes place in. Ridley does not appear in Dread because at this point it would be even more of an asspull to bring him back AGAIN.
9: Shulk was basically a zombie for the entirety of XB1 until the final chapter. He was undead for most of the entire game and only became fully alive in the final chapter when Alvis granted him power based on Shulk's choice to oppose Zanza.
10: Pyra and Mythra did canonically die, but were revived due to the way how blades work. They only kept their memories because Rex's shared core worked as a memory backup, which was foreshadowed in Chapter 7 when Malos' stole Pyra's memories.
11: BotW/ToTK are implied to be a full series reboot. But that doesn't mean much when all the versions of Link, Zelda, and Ganon are long dead by the last game of each of the branches of the OG timeline.
12: Sora actually died for real at the end of KH3, but because KH hates killing off characters for good he merely ended up in an alternate mirror universe. The only other time Sora "died" (not really) was in KH1 but was very short lived. Also the reason Sora came back in KH1 was because of Kairi's powers. It had nothing to do with Roxas or Ventus.
13: Sephiroth came back only twice. He was killed originally prior to the events of FF7 by Cloud but his body was recovered and placed into statis while parts of Jenova acted as Sephiroth clones controlled by the main body. His true body was destroyed for good at the end of the OG FF7 but he came back in Advent Children via a clone body. (an actual clone, not Jenova parts shapeshifting) It's unclear if the Sephiroth in the remake series is the OG time traveling, another clone, the OG, or something different.
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Don't forget how he called Demise "Demeese" Literally no one else calls him that.
Ness did die technically because he destroyed his timeline which killed everyone and created a new timeline where giygas never existed by ness killing him and porky turning off the devils machine
Well ness died twice?, maybe, mother 3 possibly takes place in a difficult timeline, and there’s also ness is the hot dog guy theory exists
Ness also possibly never died thanks to news is hot dog guy, where actually he may have died (mother 3 ending) or because of the alternate usiverse mother 3 takes place in(?)
olimar has also cheated death as in both the bad ending of pikmin 1 and pikmin 4 (in all endings) his life support fails and he dies but is brought back to life by being put through an onion and turned into a leafling
I hope "which smash character have canonically" videos become a trend
which smash characters have canonically fucked
@@sn0wblake smash ultimate roster: who's actually smash? Tierlist
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@@sn0wblakeoff the top of my head:
Marth, Chrom, Robin, Shulk, Pyra, Mythra, Olimar, Kazuya, Ken, Young Link, and Fox (in one of Command's endings).
I'm unsure about Bowser, cause it's never made clear as to whether or not he reproduced asexually (unless you count Miyamoto's comment from that one video as canon, which means that Bowser canonically fucked Miyamoto).
@@LegendryHeropon im sorry, OLIMAR FUCKS???
This is definitely some subject matter I never thought of and I have to say you were quite creative for coming up with this
Sonic dies in 06 which is an alternate timeline that was erased. So he died in a different timeline. But cheated death is fine
Sonic 06 is.... complicated, 06 is TECHNICALLY the main timeline. However due to the events of the story being undone in the end and the events never happened. Which explains why Sonic from 06 forward never died, however that explains the different version of Silver The Hedgehog in Sonic Rivals.... still doesn't explain why we weirdly have Crisis City and the Silver fight in Generations though
Corrin goes into the hypet specific "cheated death in an alternate universe" category.
The Corrin we see in Smash wields the Omega Yato, implying them to be the Revelation version. But in both the Birthright and Conquest timelines, Corrin does die and go to the afterlife before returning to life through the power of asspull.
The plot twist 18 year old me in 2011 playing Xenoblade being dead the whole time was wild. Also Pyra and Mythra at the end of xc2 was tear inducing
1’s plot twist was so surprising. I could’ve never seen it coming
Cloud died between FF DOC and the scene set 495 years later with Red XIII/Nadaki.
Everybody talks about KH1 Sora dying… everybody forgets there’s an entire gameplay segment and world in KH3 about cheating death LOL
Pretty sure you can kill Byleth in 3 Hopes, which is confirmed to be an alternate timeline from 3 Houses. I could be wrong, but I think the Lucina in Heroes who guards the Tempest is where she went after Awakening. So yeah, she's probably fine.
Pit is weird for so many reasons on top of what was mentioned here. In the Gameboy game that nobody played, his wings burn off in the end. Then Uprising comes along and makes that non-canon, so I guess it doesn't count. Uprising also goes and makes him retroactively canon to Smash Bros itself, so does getting turned into a trophy count as death?
Yup, you can kill Byleth in Three Hopes. You nailed it.
was coming down to comment that too! byleth def goes in "died in an alternate timeline"
Dedede Never Actually Cheats Death As He Is Never Killed By Kirby
Excellent video brother, I can tell you took your time as this video is very well scripted and crafted. Thank you for the thorough yet simple explanations you did a great job on this one I think you just got a new subscriber
Surprised Olimar wasn't given a mention given the craziness that Pikmin 1 and 4 hold, but then again it wasn't confirmed if he actually died so it's passable
Feel like you could include Joker (Persona 5) in the cheated death category. (SPOILERS)
When a god merged the dimension of human cognition (thoughts) with the real world, it also erased Joker and his friends from humanity's collective consciousness, essentially wiping them from existence. They only survived thanks to an extra-dimensional space existing between dreams and reality (the Velvet Room).
Not 100% sure if erasure from reality exactly counts as death, nor if being transported to some weird pocket dimenion upon being erased is a form of cheating death, but I think it can count, especially since they were then able to just go back to the combined reality and apparently auto-undo the erasure upon re-entering.
Ridley doesn't actually die, his cells only regenerate in between games
Chronologically, after Super Metroid he is DEAD dead. He is cloned in Other M from DNA extracted from Samus' suit, and that clone's corpse is reanimated by the X parasite in Fusion
Ridley dies in Super Metroid. Even if he didn't get killed by Samus, the planet blew up after Mother Brain was killed, consequently blowing up his remains
Sonic has died in like every game I’ve played and just said, “screw it I’ma walk it off”
*XENOBLADE SPOILERS*
It's basically a tradition for Xenoblade protagonists to die at some point in all of the mainline games.
Shulk spends basically 80% of Xenoblade 1 as a high functioning zombie.
Rex is stabbed through the heart and basically put on life support with half of Pyra/Mythra's core crystal for the rest of the game at the end of chapter 1 of Xenoblade 2.
Noah has died countless times already by the time you play as him in Xenoblade 3 due to Aionios basically being a massive team death match server complete with in-universe respawn mechanics.
Shulk and Rex also technically die temporarily again at the end Future Redeemed to essentially keep Aionios alive long enough so that Noah can destroy it properly later but it's made explicitly clear that they'll be revived when Aionios is destroyed.
Id say being erased from reality is death so id say joker should be in the cheated death list
Just one little nitpick: technically the greninja we see in smash is one specific greninja as it turns into ash-greninja for it’s final smash. This means that either it is the event exclusive battle bond greninja from before battle bond’s effect was changed, or it’s literally Ash’s greninja from the Pokémon anime. Ash’s greninja is still alive and kicking, while the event exclusive one can’t die because it’s in a Pokémon game. Thus, the greninja in smash has canonically not died.
The same thing applies to Mewtwo. There is only supposed to be one Mewtwo in existence, and it is just as alive as it was when it was first created.
Not sure if anyone already commented this, but here is what happened to Mega Man before the X series:
In Mega Man 2 for the gameboy, Dr. Wily goes to the future to capture the future's Mega Man and turn him into a "present day Mega Man killing machine" named Quint. As far as I know, Mega Man kills Quint in a fight.
Unless this is officially confirmed to be non-canon, yes Mega Man is dead in the X series.
4:52 who is “demese” lol
One thing about Sonic 06 is that technically everything that happened in that game didn’t happen in the main timeline since Elise ended 06’s timeline and resetting time back before the events of the game, so yeah, technically speaking, Sonic never truly died in the main timeline.
Yeah even if Robin does the self-sacrifice he/she is back at the end. it's not an implication in the game it's full-on confirmed right after
A small addition that was probably overlooked, Joker in Persona 5 although I'm unsure wether or not this counts similiar to Mario dying to a Goomba.
In Persona 5 there is a bad ending at a certain date where, if a dialouge sequence is answered with wrong answers, Joker gets murdered.
To go into a bit more detail, while he is in police custody after the fifth dungeon of the game, Joker has to convince the prosecutor interviewing him to assist him with a plan to escape his imminent death. If the player answers with the correct dialogue options in the interaction they will continue the game as intended with Joker faking his death by his assassin killing a cognitive version. However, if the players chooses the wrong dialogue the plan fails and Joker actually gets shot in the head and the player has to load his last safe. I'd say that counts towards dying in an alternative universe. Yet in a weird way, I guess it's no different than Mario dying from a Goomba.
It's just a gameover in the end.
Also sixth palace, not fifth.
@@mrkicks7817Eh, the credits still roll, so I’d consider it a bad ending.
Also technically Morgana dies in another bad ending if you want to count him with joker
Joker is also dead in the end of Persona 2 IS
I don’t think he was counting bad endings because that would also mean Olimar died as well
I’d personally put _BotW_ Link in the list of characters who cheated death.
IIRC Cloud also died in _Advent Children_ after being gunned down by Yazoo, but was sent back from the Lifestream by Aerith.
I usually don’t see people talk about FSA Ganon. People usually forget about him and say there are only two.
Side note but Priam from awakening Being "Ike's descendent" Means either :
- Priam is a fraud and a liar
- Priam Is Mist's descendent which is Ike's Sister
- They just completly forgot About Radiant Dawn and accidently put the personnification of a straight Agenda for pure fan service
I feel that him being an indirect descendant of Ike's is the most probable explanation.
Ike and Soren were definitely getting it on after RD
Sephiroth? Well, he’s sephiroth.
Most real answer ever for if he’s dead or not.
If I remember correctly, Robin survives the events of awakening, vague as it may be. In the final cutscene, Chrom says, "Welcome back. It's over now." Plus the mark of Grima is no longer on Robin's hand
Mario, Peach, Luigi, and Bowser in Super Paper Mario actually are unalived and goes to the underwear AKA hades and rides the river styx to Queen Jades who brings them back to life in exchange for finding her daughter.
There was a Pikachu corpse in SM frozen in an experiment tube. In the anime, Ash’s Pikachu has cheated the reaper many times. One instance he was struck by Yyvetal the reaper bird’s oblivion wing attack, but was brought back to life by Xerneas
An Action Replay like Mewtwo in the mirage system was obliterated by Mew (also unaliving) and Pikachu’s Volt Tackle
Lucario gives up his life force to Mew in the movie, but ends up reincarnating into Ash’s Lucario
Yoshi keeps getting thrown off cliffs by Mario in SMW, but they breed fast enough to keep up.
You forgot that the duck from duck hunt gets shot
Bro has no idea how to pronounce Demise. It’s an actual word in the dictionary. Look it up.
Yeah I actually cringed when I heard it.
The way you said demise aggravates meso much
10:04 That looks so brutal. Like that one Stage Fatality in Mortal Kombat 2011.😱🔥💀
Downfall Ganon is braindead before he dies in Zelda 1 since he had a botched revival ritual in Oracle of Ages/Seasons
Kirby, King Dedede and Meta Knight go here as well. They have a little bit of everything, so I will give you everything:
*Pinball Land: Kirby dying means that a clone takes his place. The amount of clones being lives.
*Mass Attack: Necrodeus splits Kirby into 10 Kirbys and erases 9, the last one escapes and revives the other Kirbys in gameplay. Up to 9 Kirbys can then die and be revived in gameplay. All of them are Kirby in even ways, at the end they "fuse"(?) back into 1.
*Lore thing: It's stated that enemies killed by Kirby revive elsewhere like plants (Ask me for the sources), something first said for the second game, where "dying" just means a boss blowing up like in any other game (or getting inhaled by Kirby). Thing is, Dedede has blown up like this across the games a few times, notably in Mass Attack. Blowing up in this videogame-like manner is shown in cutscenes too when Fecto Elfilis died like this, turning into mini stars & sh*t.
*Kirby Battle Royale: You play many mini games in this one, in most of them characters can die, you see their souls, and come back to life to keep on playing. The story of the game has it so Kirby defeated Meta Knight and Dedede in these games, so they had to have died and revived a few times, and it's possible for them to have killed Kirby in those same games, as that doesn't give them a win.
*Fighters 2: In the story, Kirby can die, turn into a ghost, and revive by hitting a living target. Outside of the story, he can do the same in this and other "Fighter" games as you play with other people, but in Fighters 2 Dedede and Meta Knight are playable.
Triple Deluxe, Star Allies, Fighters 2: Across some Kirby games, when you lose to a boss and try it again, the bosses get weaker a bit. There are statements saying that this is because they grow tired of fighting you and this is... Odd. That implies the characters revived to fight again in-universe. Is that for real? If so, Dedede and MK are playable in Star Allies.
Ask me for sources and further context.
I think most of the ones you mention fall under the same category of Mario dying to a goomba which he said didn't count. Additionally, Mass attack, Pinball land, Battle Royale and Fighters 2 aren't canon. In Triple Deluxe and Star Allies, just because you lose to a boss doesn't mean you die, I'm pretty sure you just fall asleep. Indeed I believe that Kirby should actually be in the Immortal category because Kirby is a God of Destruction who just falls asleep when in a position a mortal would die.
@@user-mf4qv3bb2j I am almost certain there is no "Dreamland Historia" and that Kirby barely even has a canon. Show me any even semi-official source that lays out which games are not canon because my gut says they all are
@@user-mf4qv3bb2j That's crazy talk at its worse.
Mario never died to a Goomba because if he did, he would be dead. If a character CAN die to their Goomba-like enemies and revive due to this being something they can do in-universe, then they canonically could have died to them. It's not the same.
All of those games are canon, already you have no grounds for such a claim, but they show up in timelines of the games the series has and some of them get ref'd in a book of past adventures Kirby has in his house, which covers his last 15 or so games.
Sectonia and Dark Meta Knight try to kill you in Triple Deluxe, The Mage Sisters, Hyness, and Void try to kill you in Star Allies. You say that he falls asleep because of the game over screen, which is not canon and isn't even the same in all modes a game has.
The last thing you say is... I have no way to say so while being nice, so sorry, but it's pure nonsense. The idea of Kirby being a god is already wrong, I have a playlist about it. But adding extra meanings to it the games never imply is super wrong. And Void isn't even immortal, each of their lives die at some point, when they're dead, that's how we know they can do just that.
You forgot Marx being a Kirby character that has died. In super star/star ultra you kill him and then his literal soul. He dies twice and in his second death there's no logical way of reviving him as he has both no body and no soul so is dead in every possible sense of the word. He was an ally to Kirby before getting power hungry at the end of milky way wishes causing his death(s) but there's still no way of reviving him, it's like when a god of destruction in dragon ball hakais a being they die in every sense of the word and are lost to both time and space including the multiverse. Kirby essentially hakaid Marx.
@@AloneTheorist Marx isn't playable in Smash.
The Marx Soul fight happens in a parallel universe (for real). The Marx we see in Star Allies (most likely) never became Marx Soul.
“Sephiroth, well, he’s Sephiroth.”
Ok, if you don’t want to do it, let the ff7 nerd do the explaining.
If we’re following the original which is what I think the Sephiroth in smash is. Sephiroth’s first ‘you were supposed to die here’ was in the Nibelhiem incident where he fell into the lifestream with Jenova’s head. Due to SOLDIER stuff, he ended up merging with Jenova as he crystallised his body in the northern cavern which I theorize is what protected him from and normal lifestream victims. The second time was the ending of ff7 where you ‘properly’ kill him. However unlike most beings, you don’t see his body return to the lifestream, instead exploding in streams of light. Later on in the book, On the Way to a Smile, it tells us that if one resists the pull of the current, they can keep their consciousness intact and technically keep living. By attaching himself to a memory in the lifestream he was able to create something like a horcrux being Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo which when exposed to a part of Jenova which in Advent Children was her head. He was able to build himself another body, quote: “I could use Mother’s power. If I had just a piece of her, I could forge another body for myself.” After the final fight in Advent Children, we don’t really see Sephiroth later in that timeline and don’t know what became of him, only really being able to theorise about it. However, destroying Sephiroth again seemingly killed all the remnants as we don’t hear of them in Dirge of Cerberus. Most likely still being in that state of consciousness in the lifestream just less inactive due to Geostigma now being fully cured.
Also I noticed you missed Cloud out who also cheated death. In the mainline, he gets shot in the back by a slowly dying Yazoo but via the power of ✨having a friend who is one with the planet but also dead✨ he was basically killed, went to heaven, god said no, and then went back to the living. Advent Children is really confusing and I’ve been trying to figure this entire franchise out for years but hoped this helped 👍
Bruh u forgot when mario literaly gone to hell cuz he died
(Hell = under-were, mario = paper mario, died = dementio blitzing him)
Additional stuff for Xenoblade, I'll put a "spoiler warning" here for XC3 and it's DLC, and put it below the read more.
Anyways so in Xenoblade 3's DLC, Future Redeemed, we finally see Shulk and Rex again. However we don't Pyra or Mythra, and it's implied that Rex is looking for them, or misses them greatly, implying they did not survive the world merge. This happens a lot with the casts of 1 and 2, occasionally finding decendants or reincarnations of those characters, but never seeing them die on screen. That being said though, given Melia has the replica Monado from Future Connected, and Nia has a picture of the XC2 gang along with Poppi, we can assume Shulk, Tora, and the Aegis, at least, are dead. In fact, we even see Shulk die in the DLC, it's a bit fuzzy because it's more like a "walk into the big scary thing and turn into mist", but as of yet we have no confirmation that Shulk is alive, and are lead to believe he's dead with Rex and A(? I think)
Also, the thing that helped him rewrite reality (the Monado, AKA Ontos, AKA Alvis) was the main antagonist of the DLC and presumably died with Shulk
Metroid Prime hunters had an ending where Samus died, so if that is canon, she can be in resurrected or cheated death, as there are other endings where she lives.
What About Olimar? In Pikmin 4, It’s A Plot Point That He’s Actually Dead (Or A Leafling, Technically) And You Have To Find And Revive Him.
Sonic be like:
- "Not only I came back to life, I erased my death from the timeline."
Super slight correction.
Ike's games take place in it's own universe known as Tellius. Ike simply traveled the outrealms(the multiverse) into Marth's world Altaea where he presumably died.
The Sonic one is kinda complicated because it doesn't happen to the mainline Sonic. For those who don't know, Sonic 06 takes place in a version of history in which a sort of dark deity called Solaris exists. To ultimately defeat Solaris, Sonic goes back in time and blows out the flame that would have later become Solaris, preventing that entire timeline from having happened to begin with. As such, while the events of Sonic 06 are technically canon, they don't happen to the same exact cast of characters as the rest of the series but rather something more akin to a parallel universe type situation. The rest of the series technically takes place after Sonic 06 in the new timeline that doesn't have Solaris in it.
8:01 that was complicated
Its funny how both Spore and Minecraft worship a god named Steve.
In SPM Mario, Luigi and Peach die, but if you consider that an alternate continuity, everyone except Rosalina got sucked into a blackhole and died in Mario Galaxy and then she created a new universe and copies of all the characters. It's stupid and I hate it, but it's canon.
Also, Wario can become a zombie and get better, so...
Depending on how you look at the DK64 game over DK and Diddy may have died in an alternate timeline.
In Star Fox 64 if you take a route where you fight Star Wolf twice, Wolf dies.
It;'s implied Lucas dies after Mother 3 ends.
If you don't answer the detective's questions correctly, Joker dies, so possible AU death. Joker also gets erased from the universe temporarily before becoming too rebellious to stay erased.
Byleth dies so much they were even born dead, but being the Mary Sue/Marty Stu they are, death never sticks.
7:19 "demeese"
Hasn't Byleth technology die and cheated death. There is a point of the story where they almost die protecting Edelgard before Sothis rewinds time. Also spoilers: In the Crimson Flower path when you defeat Rhea Byleth does drop dead before their heart restarts when their magic stone disappears from their heart
2:18, A lot of those other games, especially the Metroid Prime games take place before Super Metroid. Meta Ridley is basically Ridley as a cyborg due to his injuries in Metroid 1 and Zero Mission. Proteus Ridley is Ridley with most of said injuries already healed up. The Ridley in Other M is a clone, and the X Parasite infected Ridley is that same clone but infected by X Parasites.
Technically speaking Ganondorf dies twice in OoT, he actually kicks the bucket either after using all his power or after the tower collapse but he uses the Triforce of power to will himself back to life.
6:05 Twilight princess Ganondorf dose actually cheat death at the beginning of the game. He was revived because of the trifoce of power that he possessed at the time. However at the end of the game the trifoce of power fails him and it finally ends there.
Canonically classic Mega Man was killed by Zero
If you count the paper mario games, mario, luigi and peach canonically died as well (super paper mario, underwhere)
I’m sorry guys, Mario canonically dies by the first goomba In world 1-1
That's a game mechanic. 🤦🏽♂️
@@CuteRedPanda64 no it very canon and real it happen to my cousin Mike and he knows everything :]
@@novameowww Does he know that if he's not watching the super Mario Bros super show... he'll turn into a goomba?
@@CuteRedPanda64No wonder he killed Mario
Legends of Zelda it’s self is just a “yesn’t” lmao I love it
While most instances of this ability outside of cutscenes aren't canon, I would put Byleth either in Cheated Death, died in Alternate, or both. Died in alternate would be for Three Hopes where Byleth died in every route unless Shez does the secret end to one particular mission in each which is due to the special mission you get at the end for saving Byleth, likely the canon option but Byleth does die any other time in the game. If just Three Houses is included... The first Divine Pulse when Byleth literally gets an Axe to the back in my opinion is a great example of cheating death. Even Sothis called Byleth stupid for that.
Mega man X and zero seriously die at the end of ZX on DS. And Snake doesn't die at the end of 4 he just gets old and sickly and is implied to eventually die.
You could make an arguement that several Mario characters die in Galaxy. It is implied that the universe is destroyed but reborn through the power of the Lumas which would add Mario, Luigi, Peach, Rosalina and Bowser Jr. to the list.
In the paper mario games which have questionable cannonicity we do also see Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser die in Super Paper Mario and Bowsee Jr. dying in Origami king.
Captain Falcon has actually died in an alternate timeline. In the F-Zero anime, the last episode sees Captain Falcon sacrifice himself to defeat Black Shadow
4:56 Ironic how Link in the "Adult Timeline" (aka the Toon Link Era) looks even more like a child than in the "Child Timeline".🤣
The reason it's named that is because it follows Adult Link's actions in Ocarina of Time.
It is rather funny that both of the Links in that timeline go on their respective adventures as children lmao.
Cloud Strife is in fact dead (the end of FF7 takes place 500 years after the event of 7 and the only character we see in that point in time is Red XIII, and it’s basically impossible that Cloud (due to being a human among other things) is lasting that long in the timeline. And since that’s something we actually see in the actual game well obviously that means he’s dead.
Ok! So Sora has died a lot in KH
1. In KH1, he sacrifices himself to save Kairi, but shortly after he gets resurrected by Kairi.
2. In KH2 he gets send to the Underworld, tecnically being dead, but shortly after gets a mcguffin that lets him leave the Underworld, tecnically being resurrected.
3. In KH3, in ghe Pirates of the Caribean world he falls the End of the World, so if we follow the context of the movie he dies, and latter following the movie he gets resurrected by returning to the land of the living the same way Jack and his crew do it in the film.
4. In KH3 he dies in the Keyblade war alongside the Guardians of Light, but he litterally refuses to die, and uses the power of waking to change the future, he basically goes back in time to a moment when he was alive to change the outcome.
5. At the end of KH3, Kairi dies, so Sora uses the power of waking to travel in time once more and find a way to save Kairi.
6. Because of his constant abuse of the power of waiking, the world order (the laws of nature) demed that he breaked a tabuu, so they erased him of existence.
And I'm not counting the times he's in a death like state like in Chain of Memories, Dream Drop Distance or the Bad Ending of Remind Secret chapter, because one of them is (probably) not canon (the bad ending) and the other two are more like a coma than dead.
tecnically all character in mario have canonically die to the collapse of the universe caused by bowser in the ending of Mario galaxy 1, soo all character, including Donkey kong and wario universe, get destroyed
the only ecception could be Rosalina that she reset the universe, and the event of mario galaxy 2 occur, and everyone are reset, as seen in the ending of Mario galaxy 1
ye only Rosalina is alive bc she controll the cosmo
15:00 What is a god to Kirby?!?
No seriously he’s a god-killer
02:48 for Megaman there's a "theory" that he's still alive but as Quint
I'll correct the Ganondorf part and explain things a bit more in detail:
Demise's(who is a nameless demon as is clear by the Japanese name which is actually a title) remaining thoughts/essence decayed inside the Master sword and was destroyed by a Triforce wish so he's removed from the cycle of reincarnation but in his final words in Japanese he describes the cycle of Saṃsāra which is a natural part of the universe, the concept of evil always existing no matter what happens(no matter how many times evil is overcome there will always be jealousy, greed, hatred and delusions/ignorance) and finally he described the state of demons(a state of being that one get). The curse of the demon tribe is not a literal magical curse that was cast by Demise during his final moments it's an unfortunate affliction on reality that has existed long before The avatar of demise's revival in Skyward sword's past era, a curse you inflict upon yourself if you are filled with greed, hate, ignorance/delusion in your heart which forms eternal attachment to Saṃsāra if you embody these three Buddhist poisons. The undead enemies in the series are usually brought back from the dead because of their own hatred for the world, a powerful demon's spirit can linger in the world because of their magical power(miasma), malice and grudge. The hatred of the demon tribe is bound to the gods' tribe and anyone who defies the demon tribe and evil in general.
Demise/The one of demise is a representative of the demon tribe and negative emotions. Anyone who has the same amount of malice in their heart and a large amount of dark power can become a demon king/king of evil(Maō) or a Great demon king/Great king of evil(Daimaō) also known as the purest personifications/embodiments/incarnations/manifestations of the demon tribe's darkness, hatred, greed, delusions and grudge. While The person of demise was removed from Saṃsāra(aka he's not literally reincarnating) his emotions and characteristics can still manifest/incarnate so Ganondorf and Malladus are both kind of Demise reborn but also not(they are more like successors/heirs/echoes that have inherited his will).
Ganondorf in everyone of his origins starts off as a human(member of the human race Gerudo) thief with the title of evil thief/demon thief and a wielder of dark magic because of his upbringing(Twinrova usually). Because Ganondorf is one of the male Gerudos (a single male is born every a century, unlike other Gerudo he and Twinrova have a greener skin tone perhaps because of their dark magic), he was given special treatment and became extremely egotistical, arrogant, greedy and because of Twinrova or something demon tribe magic wielder related or warrior related he became a violent unrepentant power obssessed sociopath and a massive hypocrite filled with jealousy. He doesn't care at all about the Gerudo(with the exception of himself and Twinrova) as seen in OOT, FSA and TOTK and in TWW his speeches doesn't show that he cared or did anything for them. In every origin he gets something that increases the might of his dark magic and allows him to turn himself into a demon king and a demon beast form that is a mirror reflection of his entire character. As a demon he can live for centuries or thousands of years and he can be revived after death as seen in Zelda 2, the oracle games, Twilight princess(was reduced to the form of a spirit in the Twilight realm and had to use the Twili's hatred to revive). In The wind waker's backstory he is said to have resurrected because he was sealed inside the Sacred realm beyond the realm of the dead/underworld. Malladus was sealed while Ganondorf was alive during The wind waker and in Spirit tracks we see an attempt to revive Malladus by giving his soul a proper body. Sometimes with Ganondorf origins like in ALTTP's backstory or FSA, OOT and TOTK you can interpret his appearance as either being a resurrection in a new body, a reincarnation, an incarnation/manifestation or just a timeline branch parallel of one of the other origins.
Calamity Ganon in BOTW is a manifestation/incarnation of Ganondorf's emotions and desires and is similar to one of his bunshins(split soul/other self/part of oneself/alter-ego/copy/offshoot/clone. Agahnim and Phantom Ganon are bunshins of Ganondorf. In Ancient stone tablets Agahnim the priest of darkness is explained to be someone who got possessed by a part of Ganondorf's soul that likely entered Hyrule's world from the Sacred realm through Ganondorf's miasma that was seeping out, in ALTTP Agahnim's speech in Japanese looks a bit different at Ganondorf's tower compared to his speech at Hyrule castle and when defeated at Ganondorf's tower the part of Ganondorf's soul/Ganondorf's soul leaves Agahnim's body).
Bruh Joker got erased from reality at the end of Persona 5 and then came back in the velvet room
No one actually knows if Ness is dead. Most people think he died happily of old age, but there is proof against it too. The game never explicitly says anything about it, and I cant elaborate without spoiling all of Earthbound and Mother 3. All I have to say is Po(r)key exists, so it's very possible, but it's still up in the air.
finally, a smash fan who knows (a little bit of) earthbound lore
Sure a lot of people are already noting these, but based on your rules, Cloud is dead by the end of FFVII because there is a scene that takes place hundreds of years later. That doesn't even count him dying in Advent Children but being brought back.
Also, Sora lost his body but was brought back by Kairi in KH1 fine, but he legit dies in KH3. His spirit or something ends up in some mirror world so that they can have an excuse to bring him back...again...
Kazuya died in Tekken 2, but a few days later, G Corporation brought him back to life as stated in his Tekken 4 intro.
Well, technically, we don't even know if Ness is dead or not.
It's implied that Mother 3 takes place in a separate universe instead of sometime in the future.
Young Link specifically is an interesting case. Does becoming the Hero Shade in Twilight Princess canonically mean he cheated death? At least temporarily?
Sonic's Case is the Strangest one yet, he was brought back but his Death and Return to Life were Erased, returning back to his Single life
Sonic still remembers the events of 06
@@SparkleWolf404 Even if he does, that timeline still got erased