What's The WORST Way To Play EVERY Sonic Game?

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    You've probably seen a few videos about the best ways to play certain Sonic games, but have you ever wondered what the worst way to play every Sonic game is? Well, I have!
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  • @autumn7
    @autumn7  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +154

    unleashed wii/ps2 aren't here since they're basically an entirely different game from their HD counterparts, with completely different levels. please stop commenting about it, i am aware of its existence and even use it as an example at 0:19.
    also i completely forgot about the Classic Collection on until someone mentioned it in the comments, it's probably worse than the Sonic & Knuckles Collection since it has some mild screencrunch, lag, and lower quality sound effects. someone also mentioned the ultimate genesis collection since it doesn't allow you to lock Sonic 3 onto Sonic & Knuckles and similarly has some sound issues. Really depends if the S&K collection's midis are a dealbreaker for you, though.

    • @SMPandanic
      @SMPandanic 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      honestly being the version I play the most I like it.. also fun fact.. you can access the level select in the knuckles in sonic 2 version... they got rid of it in normal sonic 2 and 3 but not 2 for some odd reason.. it's kinda funny though

    • @AbsnormalCoolest
      @AbsnormalCoolest 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      UNLEASHED HD IS DIFFERENT???? WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES I GOTTA KNOW THIS

    • @AbsnormalCoolest
      @AbsnormalCoolest 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      also i love s&k pc midis

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@AbsnormalCoolest its basically a different game, wii/ps2 has different levels, controls, everything

    • @AbsnormalCoolest
      @AbsnormalCoolest 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@autumn7 is there still werehog
      also is there a mod for unleashed hd which restores features of og unleashed

  • @JustMaxT
    @JustMaxT 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +661

    clearly you've never played sonic unleashed on the worst laptop possible

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +176

      ...i mean thats not a bootleg or mod so i guess it technically doesn't violate my ruleset?

    • @SurfRay
      @SurfRay 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      ​@@autumn7the video *does* use mods
      but I guess you could just... not.

    • @Slimeonian
      @Slimeonian 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Peak video mentioned.
      That video was hilarious lmao

    • @WanderfromSOTC
      @WanderfromSOTC 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I get ir

    • @isabkyes6507
      @isabkyes6507 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Ive seen that vid 😭

  • @justyumi4410
    @justyumi4410 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +349

    "Welcome to the Salty Spitoon. How tough are ya?"
    "I played Sonic Advance"
    "Yeah so?"
    "On the N-Gage."
    "Right this way sir."

    • @FirstRecords204
      @FirstRecords204 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      sonic N is sonic advance... with a vertical aspect ratio. i don't think i need to explain why that's a problem

    • @DeskoDev
      @DeskoDev 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Don't forget about the Java ME and Android ports too!
      - Java ME is pretty self-explanatory. Only Sonic is playable, it only has four of the zones (which aren't in the right order), wonky physics, cruddy music renditions. Different devices got different versions, but they're all cut down. Most have a vertical aspect ratio, but most at least show more on the top and bottom to compensate. The lowest end versions don't count per her criteria, at least, since they're a completely different game, but the others are bad.
      - There's two Android versions. The one we got was a port of Gameloft's version and is absolutely abysmal (bad touch dpad without a dedicated jump button - up is jump, still has MIDI music, life count, still missing stages, technical issues galore). It's an absolutely rancid port, one of the worst mobile ports in the franchise.
      - The other's a port that never left Japan by Sega themselves that I wouldn't put on this list, and is a lot more faithful to the GBA original (all content except the Tiny Chao Garden's intact including music and menus, physics feel much closer - rolling doesn't lock your jump movement), but it still has MIDI music (i.e. actual MIDI music) and is hard capped to 15 FPS. Unfortunately, it's a case where the gameplay logic's not designed to go above that, but all in all it's a far higher quality port than the others. Its framerate and lack of controller support are its only major shortcomings imo, which makes that all the more disappointing. They were so close!
      EDIT: Sent this a little unfinished, oops.

  • @DanialProhozdenia
    @DanialProhozdenia 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    Now i wait "What's The Most MEDIUM Way To Play EVERY Sonic Game?"

  • @heitorsant1759
    @heitorsant1759 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +168

    2:12 the way his eyes are way too open and his finger wag going so fucking fast makes him look like he's on coke

    • @dragmire86
      @dragmire86 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      sonic the crackhog

    • @Cinnabun9
      @Cinnabun9 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      "Tails I just snorted a whole suitcase of coke"

    • @dragmire86
      @dragmire86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@Cinnabun9 “I just snorted a can of Pepsi!”

  • @opalander
    @opalander 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +198

    What's the worst way to play every Sonic games?
    Ask Arin Hanson, he'll show you.

    • @justyouraveragegamer6142
      @justyouraveragegamer6142 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      This caught me off guard. So true lol

    • @playfulshiba5724
      @playfulshiba5724 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who thought this xD

    • @burnum
      @burnum 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      By skipping the tutorials and then complaining, that's how!

  • @Miju001
    @Miju001 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    I've always wanted Kay Faraday to tell me about the worst versions of every Sonic game

  • @xonact8855
    @xonact8855 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    The Sonic CD intro isn't really AI upscaled. Not fully. It's incredibly intuitive, where animators will fix messed up frames from the AI, it's by far the best version of the intro we've ever gotten fidelity wise.

    • @ultrapyrusbrawler
      @ultrapyrusbrawler 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      True; fidelity wise, it's probably the best the intro's ever gonna look, however, they messed up the audio sync, so it's still not without issues.

  • @panoramhusky
    @panoramhusky 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +124

    I'd argue the worst version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles would be the version that was released on Xbox Live Arcade, since it has a forced bilinear filter, pretty awful sound mixing and the outright removal of cheats and data select in favor of three save states.

    • @agreedboarart3188
      @agreedboarart3188 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Yeah I was devastated upon realizing that I couldn't select a level afterwards. Got all of those Super Emeralds for nothing.

    • @WarioShaker
      @WarioShaker 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tiger electronics

    • @panoramhusky
      @panoramhusky 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @WarioShaker that's not the same game, look at the rules in the video

  • @floatsyourgoats6200
    @floatsyourgoats6200 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Sonic Advance has a port for the Nokia N Gage called "Sonic N". As far as I know it's 100% the same game, just with the sides of the screen cut off so that you're left with a thin vertical slice of visibility.

    • @liammccauslin912
      @liammccauslin912 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don’t forget: sonic advance ALSO has j2me ports! Missing stages, fucked up physics, and more!

  • @That1OtherYouTuber
    @That1OtherYouTuber 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +88

    This is probably what they meant by "Sonic was never good." They only played the bad ports of the games, not the good ones.

    • @Kitty255Again
      @Kitty255Again 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      well its IGN so i wouldnt be surprised

    • @yasmineh.1333
      @yasmineh.1333 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Ehhhhh IDK about that. Even if they played the good versions, Sonic critics are hellbent on engaging with Sonic in bad faith.

    • @Shrock568
      @Shrock568 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      IGN just doesn’t get Sonic. Like, at all. They don’t like the games because they never play them right.

    • @justyouraveragegamer6142
      @justyouraveragegamer6142 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      That and they're just terrible at video games in general tbh. Their footage is always facepalm worthy. It's like watching Arin Hanson play sonic games

    • @That1OtherYouTuber
      @That1OtherYouTuber 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@yasmineh.1333 so they're biased?

  • @JosukeHigashikataOfficial
    @JosukeHigashikataOfficial 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    I was not expecting to see my beloved kay faraday in a sonic video

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      i'm actually more of an ace attorney fan than a sonic fan nowadays. its just my favourite is aai2 and absolutely nobody would watch me if i made videos on the game with no localization that 3 people have played LMAO 😭

    • @JosukeHigashikataOfficial
      @JosukeHigashikataOfficial 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@autumn7 I mean most people know what the prosecutor's path translation is. I'm actually in the middle of trying to beat AAI2 myself right now lol

    • @thereallifesaiyan
      @thereallifesaiyan 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@autumn7Is there a fan translation of AAI2 at least?

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@thereallifesaiyan yep, aai2 prosecutors path ^^

  • @WEAVE.NATION
    @WEAVE.NATION 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    The fact that I knew most of these shows what being a sonic fan is

  • @TerminaFE
    @TerminaFE 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Came for the low framerates and glitches, stayed for Kay Faraday.

    • @nickelouscage
      @nickelouscage 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Looks like an HD collection style Kay Faraday.
      They’re never going to give us AAI collection are they

  • @Rib_
    @Rib_ 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Regarding the performance of the modern version of SADX, as far as I know the problem is that they are using the Sleep() call in order to limit the framerate; Sleep() causes the game (well, technically the thread) to stop processing and give up the CPU for *at least* a certain amount of milliseconds; the problem is that it could well end up being over that amount. Due to various factors, the more powerful a computer is, the more likely the game is to sleep for a longer amount of time. This ends up creating a paradox on games that misuse sleep in this manner where the more powerful the system and the less resources being used, the worse the game performs.

    • @woshee_real
      @woshee_real 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This happens with Worms Ultimate Mayhem (Worms 4 Mayhem remake) strangely enough. It can be fixed with a unofficial anniversary patch.

  • @wiiknight678
    @wiiknight678 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Somewhere out there game grump is taking notes

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "What ways are there to play Sonic games? I need to list all of them."

    • @MrNoobNub
      @MrNoobNub 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Arin Hanson: Aw yeah! This is happenin'!

  • @mrperson9877
    @mrperson9877 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    4:00 I would probably say the DS collection ("Sonic Classic Collection") version is a tad bit worse than the PC port imo. Choppy music, a lot of slowdown in some sections, and some really straining special stages lol

    • @jokx4409
      @jokx4409 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Despite all that it's still very playable and fun. I beat it multiple times on it. Which ig means there's really no bad way to play sonic 3

    • @mrperson9877
      @mrperson9877 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jokx4409 true

  • @saturnmunchies
    @saturnmunchies 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sonic Adventure's dozens of ports that continuously break the game more and more make me so sad. As someone who's played the original on her Dreamcast on a CRT, it's a STUNNING looking video game for 1998/99 and still feels great to play.

  • @agreedboarart3188
    @agreedboarart3188 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    As someone who first played Sonic 3 on PC, it warms my heart to hear appreciation for the MIDI music.
    (Confession: I lowkey had a visceral reaction to the Genesis Carnival Night music upon playing that version years later.

  • @heavenlyderpfowl1180
    @heavenlyderpfowl1180 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'd argue that ultimate genesis collection is actually the worst way to play 3 & knuckles because it has no 3 & knuckles, they forgot to include lock on so you miss out on half the game

    • @MadChristoph
      @MadChristoph 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well they have Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. UGC wasn't too bad, had nostalgia with it

    • @heavenlyderpfowl1180
      @heavenlyderpfowl1180 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MadChristoph check the title of the video

  • @liammccauslin912
    @liammccauslin912 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    clearly you’ve never played sonic 2 while your parents are arguing in the other room /j

  • @SPIDERKN1GHT0327
    @SPIDERKN1GHT0327 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    This video is an example of why mods are the bread and butter of the Sonic series.

  • @robertanderson9447
    @robertanderson9447 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    I liked this, it was very informative. Here's a few more for fun.
    The worst way to play Sonic Spinball is on the GBA Sega Smash Pack. Aside from inevitable screen crunch issues, like not being able to see any of the text in bonus stages, there's only two songs in the entire game (title screen and toxic caves) and the sound effects are extremely crunchy.
    The worst way to play Sonic 3D Blast is arguably the PC version, since it has the worst special stages of the three. But the rest of the game is based on the Saturn version, so it really depends on how you feel about the Genesis version.
    The worst way to play Tails Adventure is through Sonic Adventure DX. The versions that offer Game Gear titles have Tails Adventure and Sonic Blast as 100% rewards. But for some reason, Tails Adventure has a very dark filter on it that you can't remove. You can still see the game, but not in its full color depth, thanks to this dumb filter.
    Speaking of, arguably the worst way to play Sonic Blast is the Master System version. It's unoptimized for the wider screen compared to Game Gear, resulting in very noticable and ugly graphical bugs such as a giant chunk of wall appearing and disappearing in areas of the final zone. The final boss arena's colors are also glitched. Still, it depends on how badly you want the wider view. Assuming you choose to play Sonic Blast at all.
    The worst way to play Sonic the Fighters is through the Gems Collection. The game is perfectly playable but has several graphical glitches, most notably in the Canyon Cruise (layering issues with river) and Death Egg's Eye (missing Earth and grey space) arenas, as well as the very laggy ending sequence.

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I actually did mention 3D Blast PC in the script originally, but I didn't really have much to say beyond the special stages being worse so I just cut the segment since it's arguable whether or not it counts as a mainline game anyways.

    • @robertanderson9447
      @robertanderson9447 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I personally feel like it has more of a spin-off vibe, but I couldn't really articulate why.

    • @donovansantaella7861
      @donovansantaella7861 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I think it's also worth noting that the PC version of 3D Blast is also missing several graphical effects from the Saturn version, and even has reduced color depth.
      This is due to the game being made with the lowest common denominator of PCs in mind to reach the widest possible demographic.
      At that rate, I'd say it definitely earns the worst version title.

    • @robertanderson9447
      @robertanderson9447 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@donovansantaella7861 Good points.

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@donovansantaella7861 I didn't know that actually! I thought it was basically identical aside from the special stages, good to know.

  • @TroboTicTac
    @TroboTicTac 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    "Worst way to play Sonic 06"
    Playing the game in general

  • @thelivingdrawing2262
    @thelivingdrawing2262 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sonic Superstars runs perfectly on Steam Deck while Frontiers can only run at 30 but is otherwise uncompromised. Sonic Adventure DX also runs flawlessly despite being said to be unsupported. The Switch 2 really needs to come out.

  • @AmberLB93
    @AmberLB93 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    completely naked, covered in honey, in a forest full of driver ants, blindfolded, in an iron maiden, with your nipples super glued together.
    this is the only way to get the true sonic experience.

  • @JinteiModding
    @JinteiModding 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    For PS3 players of sonic games, I reccomend turning down the image resolution in the settings fron 1080p to 720p, it really helps with intensive games like the sonic titles, but even first party graphical power houses like Gran Turismo 5 & 6 (note: if the game is already capped to 720p resolution, it wont change a thing)
    Edit: if you also own a fairly new/modern smart TV, you'll probably have an upscaler built in, less strain on the PS3 is always good for both temperatures, framerate etc, and the only drawback is a slightly blurrier/less sharp image, but its still HD

    • @_memoryleak_
      @_memoryleak_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      huh. that’s weird. i played gens on 1080p and didn’t really notice framerate issues. as for unleashed, that wouldn’t really change a lot since it runs at anamorphic 720p. as for gran turismo, that doesn’t really affect much as those are already optimized for PS3 hardware
      although gt6 does drop in some more graphically intense areas although it never dips below the 30-40 FPS range

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least Unleashed can go as low 480p too. Idk, Gens and 06, don't have the them, but Gens is on the same engine as Unleashed so it might carry it over.

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_memoryleak_Earlier games of the gen were made in a time before a full transition to flatscreens and support at least 480p. Whenever they did 4:3 too is a diferent story but the list of full SD support covers a good chunk of even late gen games.
      Very obviously, the RaCF games fully support SD with even a slighly diferent UI arangement and more zoomed out camera to make up for 4:3 when in it. And FULLY native with performance improvements included, ACiT goes from 50-60fps to perfect 60 and near perfect 60 on the areas it runs at 40fps in HD. Crazy 50% boost.

    • @_memoryleak_
      @_memoryleak_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@rac1equalsbestgame853 holy shit we actually could have a decently playable version of unleashed now (at the cost of subpar image quality but still)

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_memoryleak_ These also apply to the 360 version as well tmk. If SD is of no bother like it is to me, at least Unleashed is helped by that.

  • @aahiljcat
    @aahiljcat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    "Idk how to write outros'
    *proceeds to do a good outro*

  • @nobodycares5050
    @nobodycares5050 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your sub count is far too small for your video quality

  • @myboy1672
    @myboy1672 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this video was pretty cool! i like your editing style and the commentary is fun, ill definitely check out some of your other content :3

  • @BlucklesTheGlitchidna
    @BlucklesTheGlitchidna 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Now this is taking the sentence "asking for suffer" literally.

  • @deeko_z86
    @deeko_z86 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Sonic 1 GBA was really bad to the point where a guy had to come in with a proof of concept homebrew port to show that it's possible to have game run smoothly and optimized. And the rest was "history" when 2017 came.

  • @CuriousGuy_
    @CuriousGuy_ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    It's worth mentioning about lost world that the steam release has lower animal requirements that make it so you don't need to grind almost at all, and if mods are relevant then you can get the DLC from the Wii U on the steam version anyway with the DLC restore

  • @revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747
    @revolverspsychedelicbreakf8747 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Glad to see another Marble Zone lover! Sweet video.

  • @yasmineh.1333
    @yasmineh.1333 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video, I was shocked to see how small your channel is! Very informative :)

  • @gaming_alien
    @gaming_alien 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve been looking for a channel like this that talks about sonic games in depth! instant subscribe

  • @Lassikko
    @Lassikko 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    For Sonic 3 & Knuckles, I wanna give a shout-out to Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection on PS3/Xbox 360. The emulation itself is fine but the fact that you can play both games separately but not together is such a tease.
    I also wanna mention the consoles from AtGames since technically they were an official way of playing the game. I remember I had one that had just Sonic & Knuckles and the sound quality was horrible.

  • @stretch7293
    @stretch7293 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's still really nice how we have a lot of these modern ports in the first place. Sure some of them aren't the best, but it's really nice of Sega to preserve these games to some extent.

  • @fourhawk3875
    @fourhawk3875 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ngl i like how you style your videos and your commentary, keep it up, you earned my sub

  • @TheReZisTLust
    @TheReZisTLust 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I genuinely love playing SA1 in the canonical unfun way, I play as sonic until I unlock Tails then return to Sonic, when Tails gets saved,then play Sonic until you meet Knuckles, then play Knuckles playthrough till you fight Sonic, then go unlock Amy with Sonic, go play Amy and then Unlock Big and rinse and repeat & again with Gamma and finish the story off Super obviously. Extremely convoluted but its funny seeing the scenes basically back to back

  • @just_jongro
    @just_jongro 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a creative vid😭😭Keep up the great content!!:)

  • @Joshuwatttt-zb7di
    @Joshuwatttt-zb7di 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I found you through Corey in the Ded 3. This content is really cool, Good job on winning the algorithm.

  • @GaronTheGreat
    @GaronTheGreat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Typically, when people at the end of the videos say to subscirbe, I don’t. But I genuinely enjoyed the video enough that I actually did. Bravo! Please continue to make banger content! ❤

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had to lower the volume for the first suggestion for the worst Sonic 1 version. That was complete ear rape.

  • @BurntRavi07
    @BurntRavi07 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes TH-cam I’ll watch a TH-camr I don’t know talk about bad ports of Sonic games. I’ll definitely subscribe.
    Also, Sonic Colors for DS is way better than Wii/Ultimate version. I know they are both completely different games but I’m standing my ground.

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    as someone who grew up with the Sonic and Knuckles collection, yeah it's probably fair to call it a major contender for the worst but it's a very servicable port and those midi songs (in both General FM and FM Synth) will forever be hella nostalgic to me and for a time i actually preferred them to the equivilent genesis versions (That was nostalgia talking but they aren't Terrible)
    Also fun fact even back on our old windows XP machine it'd randomly boot at like, 1000% speed for some reason? And sometimes it had negative colors??

  • @zoesusername
    @zoesusername 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the worst way to play sonic frontiers is on the switch while having a panic attack at a family gathering
    was still able to pull off the hedgehog space program glitch so

  • @BraveBlitz
    @BraveBlitz 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was a fun watch, found out there’s a potential worse sonic 1 port than genesis GBA is kinda insane lol

  • @MrHumbuck
    @MrHumbuck 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Interesting video! A couple of ports that I think are worth at least mentioning:
    I've never played the Origins collection, but apparently Origins Sonic CD removes Sonic's voice, which for me is a big problem. Those little sound clips add so much to the game to me.
    There's a DS Sonic collection that includes Sonic 3 which has slowdown, to me it felt pretty unpleasant to play. Certainly not as awful as it could be, but sounds like the port of Sonic 3 you mentioned is probably more fun...Although I think the DS collection uses emulation, so I guess it might not count as a full port

    • @dravenmartinez6311
      @dravenmartinez6311 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's not a port it's actually emulation made by some guy who made his own genesis emulator for ds and sega made him producer of classic collection

  • @Emberson-9000
    @Emberson-9000 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Honestly, I don't even think SADX is bad on Gamecube. It does a lot of stuff wrong, but it's mostly graphical preferences. I have both the Dreamcast and the Gamecube versions, and they both see frequent play because DX has skipable cutscenes and an astronomically better chao garden that I don't need an entire VMU with no prior saves on it to play. Dreamcast still looks better though.

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      the gamecube version is definitely the best version of DX but it got worse with time. 60fps and the ability to skip cutscenes are good additions but with how many graphical effects are just broken i still prefer the DC version. the 2004 PC port with the dreamcast conversion is the best way to go though, best of both worlds.

    • @Emberson-9000
      @Emberson-9000 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@autumn7 Its also worth noting that the Gamecube controller was leagues better for the game. I love my dreamcast, but its controllers left much to be desired.

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@autumn7 It's kind of a mixed bag.
      On one hand, better performance, cutscene skip, and improved water effects (some areas it just looks less choppy in motion, other areas have wholly updated water entirely and nicer character models.
      But then there's the Dreamcast with better lighting, less bugs (mostly graphically, but some gameplay too,) and better character texturing to avoid the shiny look.
      The textures between versions are pretty much up to opinion. I prefer the more colorful Dreamcast set overall, but a more realistic look like in DX isn't bad either by any means and some areas are helped a lot by it.
      I'm still wondering what the fuck they did to the water on the modern ports to make it look like battery acid though.

  • @PeteOfDawn
    @PeteOfDawn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sonic Heroes on PS2 not only runs 480i 30 FPS (compared to 480p 60 FPS on GC and Xbox) but the audio quality is dramatically lower than the other versions. Plus it swaps the face buttons in menus where circle is to confirm and X is to go back. I have no idea how or why they did that

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The swap is because in Japanese most playstation games use O to confirm and X to deny it's a cultural thing, so they just forgot to switch it in the international release

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's way worse things than that, some loops are straight up bug and can actually clip you out of the stage for no reason, notoriously the one in frog forest does this a lot in the PS2 version

  • @GottaBGlitches
    @GottaBGlitches 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In my opinion the origins version of Sonic 3 is the worst. The midis from the S&K Collection do have a certain charm to them, but the new origins tracks are just awful and all the audio is muffled.

  • @saduske32
    @saduske32 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really enjoyed the pacing and jokes! Keep it up!

  • @slushysaturn
    @slushysaturn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best outro ever! Amazing video, I love it.

  • @SwiftAsTheWind
    @SwiftAsTheWind 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Evil Pariah695 be like:

  • @esogame8555
    @esogame8555 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:30 as a czech i can say what pain it is to have this as the only version to play

    • @tvojejidlo8143
      @tvojejidlo8143 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “výběr etapy” lmao

  • @pvzmariosonica8fan
    @pvzmariosonica8fan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    9:36 The first time I played Superstars on Switch, it took *TWENTY SECONDS* just to get from the "Licensed by Nintendo" screen to the Sega logo

    • @skoggis6025
      @skoggis6025 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What did you expect, all games run poorly on nintendo consoles. They (the consoles) are just bad

    • @pvzmariosonica8fan
      @pvzmariosonica8fan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@skoggis6025 Not all games

    • @skoggis6025
      @skoggis6025 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pvzmariosonica8fan yes, all games.

    • @pvzmariosonica8fan
      @pvzmariosonica8fan 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@skoggis6025 Maybe all 3rd-party games, but I've never had any issues with Mario games. I've never even had any issues with any of the other Sonic games I have on Switch either (besides Colors Ultimate, but I waited to buy that until the seizure glitch was patched out)

    • @skoggis6025
      @skoggis6025 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pvzmariosonica8fan well of course the nintendo games work fine, but you aren't really suggesting that Sonic Forces and especially frontiers are even playable on the switch? I mean, I had render distance issues on the PS4 for christ's sake. The switch port looks like a ps2 game

  • @spaghet8671
    @spaghet8671 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The worst version of Sonic 3 is probably the one on the DS collection. The framerate is horrendous, and the special stages are borderline unplayable.

  • @stargamerjaey1148
    @stargamerjaey1148 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A Sonic fan and a Kay fan. Instant sub

  • @ProjectFrenzy
    @ProjectFrenzy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Isn't there a bug in the dreamcast release of SA2 where you fall through the floor on the final level when switching characters? I feel that wouldn't be ideal to play

  • @willytor7899
    @willytor7899 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    great video. also great choice of character

  • @beatziegraham6928
    @beatziegraham6928 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yes! Another Marble Zone fan! (Also I grew up with the gba Sonic 1. I think I gave up at labrynth zone 3.) (also also, the first time I ever beat sonic 2 was the Java flip phone version. It’s actually pretty fun to me.)

  • @WorksOfMagic
    @WorksOfMagic 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:40 Fun fact, the Gems Collection version is actually based on the Windows 9X versions of the game, which is why it has all the issues you mentioned here. Don't ask me why they couldn't have emulated CD'93 instead, I wouldn't be able to know. Perhaps they were forced to rush the collection out the door, so porting the PC version of CD was easier. I believe the PC version also had an unlocked framerate compared to CD'93, which would explain why the special stages run too fast as well.

  • @Robbie_Haruna
    @Robbie_Haruna 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I gotta say, I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that the modern SADX ports don't have widescreen and the ugliest screen borders out there.
    Like PC is clearly the worst, because at least it runs well on consoles (generally the performance has only gotten better with each release,) but the lack of widescreen was one of the biggest complaints back when it launched lol

  • @SFproductions1
    @SFproductions1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    playing sonic heroes on the ps2 is something i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy

  • @shiffpup2529
    @shiffpup2529 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A Sonic channel using an Ace Attorney character for an avatar? Subbed instantly.

  • @zepic3895
    @zepic3895 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool video but I think the awfulness of SA2's PC port was really understated lol
    Back when it came out it could very well been considered the worst PC port SEGA had ever put out, just so severely unstable (thing crashed CONSTANTLY), and even nowadays while it's way more stable it still crashes a lot without mods, and that's not mentioning the random pop-ups or how hard it is to close or issues with gamepads, it's really funny.
    And that's not even going into the issues that Battle introduced that aren't just graphical issues in the cutscenes. The game controls a LOT better in the Dreamcast version due to the analog deadzone being increased in the Battle ports (with rail grinding and the mechs in particular just being completely butchered) and only recently (last week or so) did a mod for the PC port release that fixes it lol

  • @Plexi.T
    @Plexi.T 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Kept me supper attentive throughout the entire video. Excellent work.

  • @NighstarLayla
    @NighstarLayla 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely fun and interesting video
    Unrelated, I got Jumpscared by the Femc mod of Reload thinking for a second they actually did it

  • @chelsea6671
    @chelsea6671 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I played Heroes as a kid on GameCube and loved it so much. Played it on PS2 a couple years ago and regretted it.
    Unleashed was my favorite game on 360 for so long.

  • @BoomingInfernape
    @BoomingInfernape 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The actual worst version of Sonic Heroes is the PS3 port of the PS2 version. It was available on the PSN store for a limited time before being pulled.

  • @cosplayingchao
    @cosplayingchao 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Arin Hanson feverishly taking notes

  • @Kriseiri
    @Kriseiri 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I believe the only major system since Sega went third-party to not have a native version of Sonic 1 is the PS Vita. But since it's backwards compatible with PSP games you can still play Sonic 1 on it.

  • @mikaela5938
    @mikaela5938 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i did not realize adventure dx was so much worse than the other versions of that game, getting that on Xbox 360 was my first exposure to it and it's still one of my favorite Sonic games out of any of them, i kind of want to try finding some other versions of that game too go through eventually now

  • @gemmaster1003
    @gemmaster1003 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i remember that a buddy of mine was surprised at how much “better” 06 was on the 360 instead of the PS3. it was very interesting.

  • @Ninetails2000
    @Ninetails2000 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Having played Generations on 360 and PS3 I can also add that the PS3's load times were at least twice as long compared to 360.

  • @SodaRedpop
    @SodaRedpop 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ok but acctually, the superstars load times go for ps5 too, it has happened to me every stage.

  • @Vantoxify
    @Vantoxify 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    cool video man, I enjoyed it

  • @ShadowCringelord
    @ShadowCringelord 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this kinda content. Keep it up

  • @YUKILOID39
    @YUKILOID39 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    SA2 is clearly the best sonic game because it doesn’t have a worst way to play it

  • @Splic-ri1vi
    @Splic-ri1vi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    sega smashpacks sonic 1's sounds made my dog act up

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:53 Apparently, from what I've heard, it depends on screen resolution of the game IIRC. The wall is there for small ones...
    3:12 The J2ME ports are separated into two parts: Dash and Crash. Dash starts at Emerald Hill and ends on Hill Top, while Crash is the rest. It's actually my first experience with Sonic 2, funnily enough.
    Also, there's Sonic Advance. There's Gameloft's chopped-down port.

  • @SuperbbConnor64
    @SuperbbConnor64 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:55 also, I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss the Origins version of the cutscene on this basis; AI upscaling was only _part_ of the process to restore it per some people that were on the team, and if you wanna get technical there’s also the fact it eliminates the ghosting that was present in the Gems Collection version. Considering the masters to this cutscene don’t exist anymore iirc they did a really commendable job for what it’s worth

  • @hydra4370
    @hydra4370 36 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Believe it or not, the J2ME version was the first time I've ever played the original Sonic The Hedgehog. I think I played sonic advance on the gba before that though. Distinctly remember sitting in my moms huge bed playing on her phone while an equally large feeling TV was playing Hannah Montana. We were also eating chex mix which was crazy tasty to little old me. Damn dude this was supposed to be a video about shitty sonic ports.

  • @GoldenGrenadier
    @GoldenGrenadier 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The S3&K collection on PC is actually better than the genesis version with a few mods. If you restore the old music and use Sega PC reloaded to stabilize the refresh rate, you're left with a version that never dips below 60 fps and doesnt have emulation lag.

  • @billyboleson2830
    @billyboleson2830 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The worst version of heroes is actually playing the game on a backwards compatible Xbox 360. The frame rate is dreadful

  • @darksonic5theochedgehog218
    @darksonic5theochedgehog218 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I think you forgot that Sonic unleashed has a Wii/PS2 version of the game but if you want the worst way to play Unleashed, look forward to Sonic Unleashed mobile for the Old school flip phones!

    • @autumn7
      @autumn7  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Didn't include them because they aren't the same game, they just share the same name.

    • @SpudChickenSaltedChips
      @SpudChickenSaltedChips 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Well if you want the answer to that, the worse version would obviously be PS2. SD Unleashed was clearly made for the Wii, and in comparison to the Wii, the PS2 version has:
      - Extremely diminished models
      - Extremely low texture quality
      - Unstable 30fps
      - 1 control option as opposed to the Wii's 3
      - Texture warping in some areas
      - No lighting
      - Further compressed audio
      - Only has 4:3
      - Cutscenes are ridiculously low quality, with some of them needing to be dimmed from color and gamma issues
      It's still a fine game, but Unlike the HD versions where the differences between 360/PS3 are somewhat minuscule, it is completely pointless to play the PS2 version unless you don't own a Wii.

    • @spidermacho123
      @spidermacho123 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@autumn7 should have included it as a separate game

    • @SegaMegadrive
      @SegaMegadrive 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SpudChickenSaltedChips 1 control option is a plus actually
      But yeah no I only played the PS2 version because I had no access to a Wii at the time. Also because I wanted to own all the PS2 Sonic games. You can tell it's just a port made for giving last gen owners some way to play the new Sonic game, and oddly enough it was never released in Japan lol, only NA and PAL regions.

    • @SpudChickenSaltedChips
      @SpudChickenSaltedChips 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SegaMegadrive I was mainly addressing the controller types as although it isn't really positive or negative (Heck, the PS2 and Classic Controller have the same control scheme), it was still a difference between versions that I added to the list of differences.
      The others are kind of negative tho.

  • @androidoficeandfire9667
    @androidoficeandfire9667 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also worth noting
    The 360 versions of Generations and Unleashed are playable through Xbox One X and Series X in 4K and boosted framerate
    While the PS3 versions are stuck on PS3 with all there faults

  • @JT-cj8qz
    @JT-cj8qz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I’ve always said this, but Nintendo has some secret formula to make all their first party games on the switch. Because you cannot convince me that any Sonic game, let alone Superstars can run as badly as it does while Mario games run flawlessly (90% of the time)

    • @rac1equalsbestgame853
      @rac1equalsbestgame853 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mario Odysey at it's least intense has more going on than even Frontiers and it STILL rarely drops ANY frames. How the Switch can handle that borderline flawlessly but get killed by even Superstars is beyond me

  • @DE23
    @DE23 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Im scared because Sonic for GBA is only the SECOND worst Sonic 1

  • @halfhalf622
    @halfhalf622 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Something I want to add about Sonic 2 J2ME: There's even worse versions you didn't show off. Additionally, there's a comparison video out there on TH-cam that features a version of Sonic 2 J2ME with TERRIBLE sound.
    However, I can't reproduce this. I've tried about 7 different emulators, multiple ROM sites, and about 50 different versions of Sonic 2 J2ME and nothing sounds quite as terrible as the version shown in the video.
    Also, for Sonic 3: If we included unofficial versions, early versions of the DGen emulator would take the crown from the Sonic & Knuckles Collection. They have really weird coloring and terrible sound.

  • @da_pikmin_coder8367
    @da_pikmin_coder8367 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's funny about the 360 vs. PS3 comparison for Sonic Unleashed is that the pros and cons of each are essentially elevated when played on the current gen consoles.
    The 360's more consistent frame rate was a pro, but a tough call since the game can never get over 30fps. But playing on the Series X, the frame rate is higher *and* more consistent than the PS3. Hell, even playing on emulator can't compete with the Series X, at least in my experience.
    The PS3 had potential for 60fps but barely ever reaches it, and isn't worth it with all the bugs. The PS5 can't play the game normally, and it has to be streamed via a Playstation Now subscription. Good luck hitting 60fps when all the in-game lag is topped with internet lag. And I can't even imagine what a nightmare the Day Stages are with input lag.

  • @martin0499
    @martin0499 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    forgot Sonic 4 episodes 1/2, which should probably also be PS3

  • @haydengames3v2
    @haydengames3v2 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'd say the pc version of Heroes was the worst, has broken collision and is the only version of the game where I dodged the death box in the Egg Emperor boss fight.

  • @Frustratedartist2
    @Frustratedartist2 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Origins got 3 worse in my opinion

  • @Loyalty-SFSB
    @Loyalty-SFSB 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow ur such an underrated Creator 😮

  • @requiem6465
    @requiem6465 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "Sonic 1 on DC doesnt seem that bad"
    *turns on audio*
    "OH SWEET NEPTUNE"

  • @l3rvn0
    @l3rvn0 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Sonic Adventure 2 HD can't connect to the VMUs or GBAs, so maybe this make it the worst

  • @stuff31
    @stuff31 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Really fun video! Keep it up, you're very entertaining. Now time for me to go play Sonic on the worst possible platforms I can get muahahahaha

  • @Ssjvaca
    @Ssjvaca วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Sonic Mania + on Netflix is actually pretty good, runs like butter on my phone, base game is the same thing like I cannot make this up they're THE same, only real issue I get are the special stages being hell to control on a touchscreen.