What I like about this fight is how it doesn't weaken Vader and makes his nigh-defeat believable. Here's what I think of all of it. It's made clear several times that Vader is much stronger and more skilled than Cere, more than once he parries or avoids her strikes pretty casually while she's clearly exherting a lot of strength. She's strong enough to stand her grounds against him, which is more than many Jedi could do, including Masters, and he himself acknowledges her skills. But at the same time, the cutscenes show he's still the superior fighter, he's not totally casual but he's not serious either, he puts some minimal efforts (which again is more than many Jedi could make him do at this point) but that's it. He knows he can end her very easily so he plays with his food. And this is what allows Cere to get an advantage. She manages to take Vader by surprise with desperate means and a sudden move that he could have easily avoided or countered but because he underestimates her, he doesn't. The wounds he sustains weaken him and even after that, he doesn't seem to exhert his full strength judging by the cutscene, enabling Cere to wound him and put in a genuinely dangerous position. And then she makes the same mistake, in a different manner. She makes a risky move to finish Vader, believing what she did to him is enough to leave him unable to react properly or retaliate. She goes for the kill but in a way that is clearly reckless, because she sees him against the wall and wounded. By jumping like she did, she left herself opened for Vader to react, counter her strike and give her a fatal blow she could have avoided had she not been so reckless. Like Vader at the start of their fight, she underestimated him, thought he was now an easy prey and ultimately got killed for it. She still managed to far much better than many others and succeeded in wounding him. She was certainly not strong enough to compare to him, nor skilled enough, but she was still a worthy opponent for Vader.
Also remember this is early Vader. He is still pretty fresh from Revenge of the Sith. He still carries that youthful anger, impatience and recklessness, and lack of experience and skill. Add in everything you said about him not giving it his all, and her using outside advantages, it makes sense that she stopped him. And yet despite ALL this, not only did he NOT die, but he managed to still kill her.
@@spider-man500 this is not early Vader. This game takes place ten years after Revenge of the Sith. Vader is closer to the Battle of Yavin at this point than he is to the fall of the republic.
Those who complain Vader killed Jedi Masters in the Jedi Temple are the reason he should beat Cere. People forget he was not burned nor in his uncomfortable dark suit at that time. Plus, Vader's power diminished after he was burned and this literally made Sidious contemplate if he should discard Vader or not.
The way he gets up from the wall and walks away after the fight also tells a lot, in my opinion. He was kind of worn out, injured both in body and spirit, not expecting Cere to damage him the way she did by trapping him under the rubble. He was angry about it, and he wasn't proud of how the fight went. That's why he didn't even look at her after the duel ended. He just pulled himself up and limped away.
I was so happy every time I died to this fight, because it was an amazing fight but it was giving Vader so much honor as well. And I agree Cere can be a good match for him, especially as she is now in this game. If it was the last game, no, that Cere wouldn’t have been able to hold a candle to him and the only time she did was through the dark side. This Cere I think has almost become a grand master, she has completely let go of fear, embracing the light side and other than force crush which she even only used in doors she did absolutely no dark side things. We see her use force heal and considering how calm she is in every single one of the blade clashes probably an expert at force Valor and other things like that. This isn’t saying Vader is weak, this is saying that a cere without fear is strong, and even then Vader is still a better duelist then her obviously because he won, hell he was even cocky. You can tell by the change in his attack patterns by phase 3 that he wasn’t taking it seriously until he took some decent damage. If he started all out he probably would’ve won.
@@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother not really only a few times and when it did happen it was due to being outnumbered most of the time not a 1 on 1. Realistically, Vader should be destroying her easily
Vader is the force's chosen Cere was meant to lose the moment she decided to fight, we have to at least respect that, or to put it into Vader's words "She died braver than most!"
I think what I love the most about this fight is how they did Vader’s lightsaber combat. Very rarely is the actual moves so eye catching that it actually draws my attention to them and not just when and how to react. Every movement and action of Vader’s feels immaculate, purposeful, each swing and strike leading into the next. On phase 3 it shifts into double time, he never stops except for brief moments, he mixes in force enhanced strikes with his normal ones without even changing the stance which if we didn’t have the red shift we’d be hit with something we wouldn’t be able to block completely unexpectedly. They truly make him a master lightsaber combatant and his lightsaber fighting actually looks like a true master of sword fighting.
Wait a minute: The power to slow down time, has lost his master/adoptive father, uses a sword and a gun, can see echoes in the force, is a ladies man and has ginger hair, girlfriend is a witch that dresses in red, fights for the sake of peace, Kal is fusion of Kiritsugu & Shirou Emiya!
The force did not will her victory no matter how badly she whooped the shit out of him. Could've made an interesting alternate ending. Vader is going to remember that beating he recieved because he almost was ended by his "lessers".
I want to think due to how many hits she gets in vader was just letting her beat on him a little bit in order to lure her into a false mindset that she could actually beat him just so he could deliver a finishing blow
Anyone know if this is before or after Obi Wan Kenobi? Like same year but did he walk out of this fight, get repaired and then go after Kenobi or other way around?
I like to think this is before due to his comments about the inquisitor program being a-okay but Obi-Wan shows up to the palace and stirs things up in Kenobi. It just feels like Kenobi is afterwards because its so climactic.
Vader dominated his opponents through fear. Cere did not have fear. Vader made his combat style powerful and precise. Cere understood his combat style and countered it. Vader is however more powerful in the force and is only nearly defeated at the end but still what an impressive duel.
wait sooooo was this like a meditation force that she was fighting vader or Vader really showed Up and said Sup Sis Ready for the final showdown ? i dont have the game so i really dont know Cool Fight . Also Saber SFX is Improving more better then Fucking BATTLEFRONT 2 saber SFX I HAD TO Mod That shit of bf1 2015 saber fx with out a spoiler How are you loving this game ?? so far ? i might get it i really want to get Sifu and dead island 2 Mad that dead island 2 isnt on steam .
@@Rubhen925 awe thats heart breaking :( its kinda sad How Jedi's feels emotions threw that if i was a jedi i would hella hate going threw this ....thats what i called Corrupted Jedi ...im very surprize Cal didnt become Corrupted after that because I WOULD !.
Cere is the weakest Jedi I have ever seen. I’m hard stuck bc she has nothing going for her. The stance is weak, her powers are weak and her sustainability is weak. Why am I forced to play this bald librarian ?
She’s not the weakest Jedi. She was able to duel with Vader for that long. In my opinion she held her own but we all know she wasn’t walking out of this one alive.
This is one of those things where I can't tell if you're trying to troll and just suck at it for whatever reason or if you're actually not all there and believe what you're saying lol
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What I like about this fight is how it doesn't weaken Vader and makes his nigh-defeat believable. Here's what I think of all of it.
It's made clear several times that Vader is much stronger and more skilled than Cere, more than once he parries or avoids her strikes pretty casually while she's clearly exherting a lot of strength. She's strong enough to stand her grounds against him, which is more than many Jedi could do, including Masters, and he himself acknowledges her skills. But at the same time, the cutscenes show he's still the superior fighter, he's not totally casual but he's not serious either, he puts some minimal efforts (which again is more than many Jedi could make him do at this point) but that's it. He knows he can end her very easily so he plays with his food. And this is what allows Cere to get an advantage. She manages to take Vader by surprise with desperate means and a sudden move that he could have easily avoided or countered but because he underestimates her, he doesn't. The wounds he sustains weaken him and even after that, he doesn't seem to exhert his full strength judging by the cutscene, enabling Cere to wound him and put in a genuinely dangerous position.
And then she makes the same mistake, in a different manner. She makes a risky move to finish Vader, believing what she did to him is enough to leave him unable to react properly or retaliate. She goes for the kill but in a way that is clearly reckless, because she sees him against the wall and wounded. By jumping like she did, she left herself opened for Vader to react, counter her strike and give her a fatal blow she could have avoided had she not been so reckless. Like Vader at the start of their fight, she underestimated him, thought he was now an easy prey and ultimately got killed for it. She still managed to far much better than many others and succeeded in wounding him. She was certainly not strong enough to compare to him, nor skilled enough, but she was still a worthy opponent for Vader.
Also remember this is early Vader.
He is still pretty fresh from Revenge of the Sith. He still carries that youthful anger, impatience and recklessness, and lack of experience and skill.
Add in everything you said about him not giving it his all, and her using outside advantages, it makes sense that she stopped him.
And yet despite ALL this, not only did he NOT die, but he managed to still kill her.
@@spider-man500 this is not early Vader. This game takes place ten years after Revenge of the Sith. Vader is closer to the Battle of Yavin at this point than he is to the fall of the republic.
Those who complain Vader killed Jedi Masters in the Jedi Temple are the reason he should beat Cere. People forget he was not burned nor in his uncomfortable dark suit at that time. Plus, Vader's power diminished after he was burned and this literally made Sidious contemplate if he should discard Vader or not.
The way he gets up from the wall and walks away after the fight also tells a lot, in my opinion. He was kind of worn out, injured both in body and spirit, not expecting Cere to damage him the way she did by trapping him under the rubble. He was angry about it, and he wasn't proud of how the fight went. That's why he didn't even look at her after the duel ended. He just pulled himself up and limped away.
I was so happy every time I died to this fight, because it was an amazing fight but it was giving Vader so much honor as well. And I agree Cere can be a good match for him, especially as she is now in this game. If it was the last game, no, that Cere wouldn’t have been able to hold a candle to him and the only time she did was through the dark side. This Cere I think has almost become a grand master, she has completely let go of fear, embracing the light side and other than force crush which she even only used in doors she did absolutely no dark side things. We see her use force heal and considering how calm she is in every single one of the blade clashes probably an expert at force Valor and other things like that. This isn’t saying Vader is weak, this is saying that a cere without fear is strong, and even then Vader is still a better duelist then her obviously because he won, hell he was even cocky. You can tell by the change in his attack patterns by phase 3 that he wasn’t taking it seriously until he took some decent damage. If he started all out he probably would’ve won.
Cere went out like a legend giving Vader a run for his money no joke I love how close this fight is!
It's cause she's a stronk female queen.
Making her lose easily is racist.
Nah it's total bullshit
@@thomasfire0717 I’ve been plenty of times in legends were Vader was actually defeated by a Jedi
@@QuadZillaGodZillasbrother not really only a few times and when it did happen it was due to being outnumbered most of the time not a 1 on 1. Realistically, Vader should be destroying her easily
@@RandomLad1383 bro come on Vader is even gotten his ass kicked by non-force users before he’s not invincible
Kudos to Cameron Monaghan at the end. That was gut wrenching, like he felt all of Cere’s pain 😢
I mean he did literally see it and experience it as though he was actually there
@@Ayyothatsbrandogaming Ah ok, I’ll rephrase - Cameron really sold it through the performance that he felt it all :)
Vader is the force's chosen Cere was meant to lose the moment she decided to fight, we have to at least respect that, or to put it into Vader's words "She died braver than most!"
At 3:34 you can hear Anakins voice before Vaders suit comes back online
Poor Cere... She didn't know nobody dies from getting impaled with a lightsaber anymore.
Cere and Qui Gon just aren’t as powerful in the force as 8 year old Reva i guess 😅
@@marcelom9215 Or he just didn't turn to the dark side to survive as a moul cut in half.😂
That 4:10 moment really shows how badass Vader is
I think what I love the most about this fight is how they did Vader’s lightsaber combat. Very rarely is the actual moves so eye catching that it actually draws my attention to them and not just when and how to react. Every movement and action of Vader’s feels immaculate, purposeful, each swing and strike leading into the next. On phase 3 it shifts into double time, he never stops except for brief moments, he mixes in force enhanced strikes with his normal ones without even changing the stance which if we didn’t have the red shift we’d be hit with something we wouldn’t be able to block completely unexpectedly. They truly make him a master lightsaber combatant and his lightsaber fighting actually looks like a true master of sword fighting.
Just a reminder this is still Vader in his early years so he's not yet as powerful now as he is in the original trilogy
Anakin is more powerful than Vader...Anakin is the chosen one while Vader is a broken man...
@@markdelavega4953
Canon confirmed that Vader is more powerful than Anakin
@@markdelavega4953 No anakin can become far more powerful and stronger but this Vader is more powerful and stronger than Anakin from ROTS
@@killeur78570 noted
@@markykrajky13 if they confirmed it then I believe 😅😅😅
Wait a minute: The power to slow down time, has lost his master/adoptive father, uses a sword and a gun, can see echoes in the force, is a ladies man and has ginger hair, girlfriend is a witch that dresses in red, fights for the sake of peace, Kal is fusion of Kiritsugu & Shirou Emiya!
Vader clearly underestimated Cere but she was fighting her hardest. Respect ✊
Camerons performance in both games is one of the best ive seen in star wars in a long time, and this scene really shows that.
Bruh when I first played the game, I thought she landed that stab
I was wrong as fuck
Deborah Wilson has always been a legend
Debra* , sorry.
Just beat this game last night, and man this whole fight is just one massive nerdgasm for me
Without the music you can hear more of Cal' grief and that's hit me harder right now.
GI Jane 2, can't wait to see it.
The force did not will her victory no matter how badly she whooped the shit out of him. Could've made an interesting alternate ending. Vader is going to remember that beating he recieved because he almost was ended by his "lessers".
Yeah Vader sustained enough damage that he was limping a bit as he walked away
The next game it’s on sight when Cal sees Vader
4:29 A fool Jedi who thought she could use the power of highground to defeat Darth Vader.
Sadly she is no Kenobi and that is why she lost !!!
Yeah I agree. She should’ve retreated
How the fuck did she miss two to learn the killing bro or did she did she miss on purpose because killing is not the Jedi way
Pretty close fight there!
I want to think due to how many hits she gets in vader was just letting her beat on him a little bit in order to lure her into a false mindset that she could actually beat him just so he could deliver a finishing blow
Anyone know if this is before or after Obi Wan Kenobi? Like same year but did he walk out of this fight, get repaired and then go after Kenobi or other way around?
Good question I’d wonder what others think but I personally think it’s before
It’s the same year. It happens around the same time
I like to think this is before due to his comments about the inquisitor program being a-okay but Obi-Wan shows up to the palace and stirs things up in Kenobi. It just feels like Kenobi is afterwards because its so climactic.
@@michaelcrum8128probably. But later in the same year.
All she had to do was tilt her hand at the end! XD
Vader dominated his opponents through fear.
Cere did not have fear.
Vader made his combat style powerful and precise.
Cere understood his combat style and countered it.
Vader is however more powerful in the force and is only nearly defeated at the end but still what an impressive duel.
When Vader gets up from the archives on top of him, it bugs out and cere gets force pushed and then some bulllshit hits her once and dead
why does the force choke take so much health 😑
I feel bad for cal kestis loses his friend cere
Lol what difficulty was this? Cuz this shit seemed easy af the amount of damage you were doing
Cool video, but also a huge spoiler.
Bro is it me only I only can take him to half life and he just destroys me in seconds it’s frustrating
Mode MESTRE JEDI this soooooo hard
That was in easy mode ?
bald is bueatiful.
Lol difficulty on Padawan
Tenho ipreção que o dublador de darth vader e o mesmo dublador do mestre chief de halo
Not the same actor
wait sooooo was this like a meditation force that she was fighting vader or Vader really showed Up and said Sup Sis Ready for the final showdown ? i dont have the game so i really dont know Cool Fight . Also Saber SFX is Improving more better then Fucking BATTLEFRONT 2 saber SFX I HAD TO Mod That shit of bf1 2015 saber fx with out a spoiler How are you loving this game ?? so far ? i might get it i really want to get Sifu and dead island 2 Mad that dead island 2 isnt on steam .
He really showed up and fought her. Cal was just reliving her vision as he can listen and feel echoes
@@Rubhen925 awe thats heart breaking :( its kinda sad How Jedi's feels emotions threw that if i was a jedi i would hella hate going threw this ....thats what i called Corrupted Jedi ...im very surprize Cal didnt become Corrupted after that because I WOULD !.
Well still vader beat her
u play noob difficulty
Cere is the weakest Jedi I have ever seen. I’m hard stuck bc she has nothing going for her. The stance is weak, her powers are weak and her sustainability is weak. Why am I forced to play this bald librarian ?
She’s not the weakest Jedi. She was able to duel with Vader for that long. In my opinion she held her own but we all know she wasn’t walking out of this one alive.
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is this bait? are you being stupid on purpose
Funniest little rant ever
This is one of those things where I can't tell if you're trying to troll and just suck at it for whatever reason or if you're actually not all there and believe what you're saying lol
It’s so useless for you to post this on such a low difficulty. Be better.
Try him on on normal. Not easy
Try him on Jedi Master, rage inducing lol