Yes! Just like the “sky” isn’t really “there” but is assembled and summed and perceived by choice and wrapped into a conscious dream of - sky. It’s an inside job, seen only in the present moment.
I once had a thought, said it out loud, and the person it was aimed at came up to me, punched me in the face, knocked me flying and I ended up covered in blood on the ground Knowing thoughts don’t exist is always tricky to me I can see how it’s the actions that are usually the trouble, but thoughts are usually behind them 😊 You tube videos are sometimes about someone’s thoughts, and sometimes they have extremely consistent models of their ideas, the aim of which is often to help my thoughts be different, or to help explain my reality to me. A positive intention So thoughts seem to be drivers for action, and transferable, and attractive enough to make me watch a video saying they don’t exist Thoughts are tricky! I’ll watch more of them and see if that helps Thanks Mr Spira
Thoughts are only tricky because we give them such a high regard and contribute to them as part of our identity. What may or may not be trickier is detaching from thoughts. When we don't value a thought it vanishes rapidly. They are not essential to us.
@@TaxemicFanatic That’s a really useful comment for me, thank you. Oddly more helpful than the video; I must get emotional rebellion at the *being told* things don’t exist. A bit like sometimes we can get a passion to do something from being told we can’t by parents. For example ‘you’ll never be an athlete you’re too fat and lazy.’ I don’t usually have issue with thoughts not being ‘me’ But maybe my thoughts have an issue with my not being them! So helpful, thank you 🥰
@@Robert2024H that last part was a great way of expressing it. If something someone says doesn't sit well with you have a window shop at other spiritual beings. I usually find I resonate with some better than others.
It seems to me for the passionate men every thought is a very lovely for ego because thoughts justify passions (often negative, full of envy, resentment, sometimes hates and vindictiveness). There is no separate thought in the empty space of my mind but every thoughts are the elements of my frame of reference. If I want to change my thoughts I have to change my mind and destroy my usual frame of reference. In various spiritual traditions are offered to replace thoughts to mantra or pray, so when thoughts are appeared in mind seeker begin to repeat sacred mantra or short pray. It is the first step to become dispassionate, to clear your soul from worldly attachments and begin to think in divine manner.
Surely to experience thoughts and see things as a million different guises, yes there is only knowing in us, but that knowing knows many different thoughts and things. To have knowing must be so that we can know something. To see and know a million different things must be evidence of a million different things to know? I don't think I really heard that explained to my satisfaction.
How can I discuss privately with you Rupert , and answer to your message. And I don't understand why I can't find your response to my comment : Gold !!!
Thoughts in the mind arise from memories from the past or from desires in the future. When thought is in the present the mind is still. But the mind has nothing to do with consciousness since the former is finite.
I don't really get "there are no thoughts" and "There are no things" I can touch things, I am aware of thoughts, I can touch the screen where the movie is appearing on and yes I may have forgotten about the screen while been hypnotized by the movie, but even understanding that the movie is appearing on the screen of consciousness doesn't make the movie inexistent, I am touching the screen and the movie simultaneously if that make sense to anyone. 🤔😅Help!!! haha
@@GesanduDulawin-b5d if this interests you, and you’ve only seen this video, then just know this video is pretty advanced…there are some initial steps that would be needed to prepare for the ‘nothing exists’…which has to do with recognizing what a ‘thing’ is (yes, there are things)….the exploration here is ‘what is the ‘fundamental nature of things’ and ‘how do we know anyTHING’. These are deep questions and discoveries, so keep going if such explorations interest you
Recently we had seen post of some fancy looking brit. scientist that say how rocks become animate object (sand turns into a dinosaur which eventualy designs iPhone's and ships them to Mars ...) so rocks by rubing and crashing against each other and due to chemical reactions, that eventualy made conscious cell and cooking on earth have started ..., I thought someone must have had been busy baking bread for that cooking soup to eat it with back them 😂. I don't mean to discredit that guy's "science behind" but that what he says is basicaly fits RS consciousness only model. This chemical reaction back few billions years ago are the same reactions I am having right now making me post this comment here. Thanks much Love. ❤
there wont be any thoughts when you realize the Supreme Self (Infinite Consciousness) that you are. thoughts are like purple removeable things on the screen that is You..the screen that is you is ajata. ajata is an important concept that you should learn about from ramana maharsi..when you remove the purple things you'll be liberated..
Everything is born out of Nothing. And therefore, everything retains the qualities of nothing. Everything IS Nothing. Form is born out of Spirit. And therefore, it maintains the qualities of Spirit. Matter IS Spirit. It cannot be treated just as matter. The physical and the non-physical are one. There is no difference. It is all here. Nothing goes anywhere. To connect more to the non-physical, the immaterial, the intangible m, the eternal qualities of oneself, a certain amount of dis-connection and dis-identification with form must occur. Darkness reveals light. For day to even exist, night has to occur. Disconnection leads to connection. ❤🧚🙏💚💦☀️
Ultimately, the disconnection with form implies dis-identification with how we conceptualize form. In other words, it's the concepts and the beliefs we have mentally constructed and attached to form that have distorted our purity of heart and replaced it with clinginess to ideas instead.
This is my concern. Infinite consciousness expresses through our finite "I" a separate state of "I am". Essentially we are an illusion, born from infinite consciousness. Then it would seem reasonable to assume that death would dissolve that illusory "I am", the individualism, the separatism that we identify as you and me. "You" and "I" would cease to exist. The infinite consciousness, like a kind of amoeba, absorbs or, dare I say "digests" us back into its infinite expanse. Seems like a scam to me. Just saying. "Eat and be merry for tomorrow we die".
More to the point, what is prompting the thought for you to experience a thought and for what purpose. I mean the subject has previously went through a mediation/meditaion mode with the so called teacher and the subject is lost in understanding and still cant say what thought he currently has. Here we go again with movie screen comparison and still the subject is none the wiser. I say none the wiser because the so teacher says " if you are experiencing thought", well when you experience something, that means you obtain wisdom, so where is the wisdom in just thought, there is none. For eg, your stomach is hungry, which sends a message to your physical brain via the ego tool that tells the mind of a thought that you are hungry to which you give thought to your favourite food to eat, so , where is the wisdom in that food experience. All you know is that you will be eating your favourite food. The so called teacher has just made a mug of the subject with hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo, now thats a double banger. There is always an "it" because you have previously known "it" before your current thought of the "it' and to add to that, your are always "it" prompting the thought of " it" you previously experienced. hello! There is never only consciousness, because reality couldn't care less what your state of consciousness is nor what you perceive, more so, consciousness was not there prior nor during nor after the inception of your lineage when it Formed. Consciuosness is just a tool implemented for awareness but fleeting,ie you can lose consciousness but your physical brain will always be prompted by a thought. All teachers and guru's attempt to attach reality to consciousness to justify what they say to fit.
Thoughts are electromagnetic energy. The same as everything else. Thoughts follow attachments. Thoughts and dreams show what you are attached to. This is where surrender or detachment from the world is critical. Detach from the world and thoughts and dreams disappear. The explanation in this presentation has no substance or meaning. It serves only to confuse because it again points to a consciousness only model which is absurd. Surrender and realize true peace. Let go of your interests of the world and the world moves away from you. That is, the world created by your mind. What appears in its place is reality. The real world. Without surrender, a quiet mind is impossible.
@@DoogieHowitzer1984 Because it is. Consciousness is clearly, observably emergent. It manifests directly in proportion of complexity of the system it manifests through. It’s the most basic experience we have.
@@LN-fj5gg Is that your expectation of Rupert? Maharshi felt the need to write a book. Isn’t it a basic function of life? To communicate? Even if you are totally detached from the world, thoughts still do percolate from that very state of being. There is this preconceived idea of what a spiritual person is and how they “should” behave. What they “would” say if they were enlightened. The problem is, the folks presenting this material are in actuality, experts in dogma, but have no presence in reality. If you watch this long enough, say over 50 years, it eventually dawns on you what is going on and what reality actually is. That is called maturity. Why is it that so many are so quickly willing to dismiss independent thought? Who actually is an expert in anything? Galileo was imprisoned for simply pointing out that the earth revolved around the sun. The “experts” of that day insisted the earth was flat. I am no Galileo, but I do hold a degree in the sciences and have followed spiritual teachings for a long time. Eventually, you realize a few things taught as inconsistent with experience. If you don’t agree, that’s OK. Move on.
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Feeling slightly addicted to getting my morning daily dose of Rupert and Eckhart... ❤
Rupert is a magician. He take his listener to the living expireience.
Intrusive thoughts are not real. Good reminder, thank you Rupert💙❤️
This is "Enlightenment"!!! The Realisation of our True Shelf!!
Thank you Rupert for make it so simple for us!! 🙏💎❣️
OMG I think I get it now! Only took like 300 hours of watching this stuff. When I go to touch the thought, it can’t be done! Nothing there. Thanks RS!
Yes! Just like the “sky” isn’t really “there” but is assembled and summed and perceived by choice and wrapped into a conscious dream of - sky.
It’s an inside job, seen only in the present moment.
Gratitude for this video, may the power of love, grace, and understanding happen to all asap
Very fortunate to have listened to this
Beautiful, I totally resonate with this ❤🙏🙏🙏. Immense gratitude and love for sharing this 🙏
I once had a thought, said it out loud, and the person it was aimed at came up to me, punched me in the face, knocked me flying and I ended up covered in blood on the ground
Knowing thoughts don’t exist is always tricky to me
I can see how it’s the actions that are usually the trouble, but thoughts are usually behind them 😊
You tube videos are sometimes about someone’s thoughts, and sometimes they have extremely consistent models of their ideas, the aim of which is often to help my thoughts be different, or to help explain my reality to me. A positive intention
So thoughts seem to be drivers for action, and transferable, and attractive enough to make me watch a video saying they don’t exist
Thoughts are tricky!
I’ll watch more of them and see if that helps
Thanks Mr Spira
Thoughts are only tricky because we give them such a high regard and contribute to them as part of our identity. What may or may not be trickier is detaching from thoughts. When we don't value a thought it vanishes rapidly. They are not essential to us.
@@TaxemicFanatic That’s a really useful comment for me, thank you. Oddly more helpful than the video; I must get emotional rebellion at the *being told* things don’t exist. A bit like sometimes we can get a passion to do something from being told we can’t by parents. For example ‘you’ll never be an athlete you’re too fat and lazy.’
I don’t usually have issue with thoughts not being ‘me’
But maybe my thoughts have an issue with my not being them!
So helpful, thank you 🥰
@@Robert2024H that last part was a great way of expressing it. If something someone says doesn't sit well with you have a window shop at other spiritual beings. I usually find I resonate with some better than others.
Powerful, as always. Thank you, Rupert.
So brilliantly perfect
Thanks Rupert❤
It seems to me for the passionate men every thought is a very lovely for ego because thoughts justify passions (often negative, full of envy, resentment, sometimes hates and vindictiveness). There is no separate thought in the empty space of my mind but every thoughts are the elements of my frame of reference. If I want to change my thoughts I have to change my mind and destroy my usual frame of reference. In various spiritual traditions are offered to replace thoughts to mantra or pray, so when thoughts are appeared in mind seeker begin to repeat sacred mantra or short pray. It is the first step to become dispassionate, to clear your soul from worldly attachments and begin to think in divine manner.
I like it! Reminds me of the definition of a miracle in A Course In Miracles. I think you’d love that book as a guide?
0:06 third row guy in the center… he is clearly enlightened. 👍
Gold !!!
Clearest ever
Gold 🙏
Thank you❤
A thought it's the same as a rat, the moment you try to get it it runs away, and when you are not aware it comes from the corners.
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I don’t understand why thoughts are a problem. Maybe I’m not enlightened enough
@@Ekam-Sat they are not a problem, the problem is the identification with them.
❤. Gratitud😊
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Notice the light that thought is made of, rather than the claims that thought is making. Thought as light is reality, thought as meaning is fantasy.
Surely to experience thoughts and see things as a million different guises, yes there is only knowing in us, but that knowing knows many different thoughts and things. To have knowing must be so that we can know something. To see and know a million different things must be evidence of a million different things to know? I don't think I really heard that explained to my satisfaction.
It is life.
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Thoughts are only experienced in the brain but not the body
How can I discuss privately with you Rupert , and answer to your message. And I don't understand why I can't find your response to my comment : Gold !!!
I prefer the analogy of seeing thoughts as rainbows
Thoughts in the mind arise from memories from the past or from desires in the future. When thought is in the present the mind is still. But the mind has nothing to do with consciousness since the former is finite.
@RupertSpira01 May we all be blessed. Your talks are so inspiring and creates a thirst for listening more and more. Thank you so much.
I don't really get "there are no thoughts" and "There are no things" I can touch things, I am aware of thoughts, I can touch the screen where the movie is appearing on and yes I may have forgotten about the screen while been hypnotized by the movie, but even understanding that the movie is appearing on the screen of consciousness doesn't make the movie inexistent, I am touching the screen and the movie simultaneously if that make sense to anyone. 🤔😅Help!!! haha
When you are 'thinking'.. Try to FOCUS THE THINKER ON IT SELF... and then see what remain.. Remains nothing but the one who Look for the thinker...
@@GesanduDulawin-b5d if this interests you, and you’ve only seen this video, then just know this video is pretty advanced…there are some initial steps that would be needed to prepare for the ‘nothing exists’…which has to do with recognizing what a ‘thing’ is (yes, there are things)….the exploration here is ‘what is the ‘fundamental nature of things’ and ‘how do we know anyTHING’. These are deep questions and discoveries, so keep going if such explorations interest you
@@Daniel-ux8tx not only this
@@GesanduDulawin-b5d or, as yoda would say “this, not only” ☺️
@@Daniel-ux8tx this
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I would’ve said thoughts or “it” is energy
Recently we had seen post of some fancy looking brit. scientist that say how rocks become animate object (sand turns into a dinosaur which eventualy designs iPhone's and ships them to Mars ...) so rocks by rubing and crashing against each other and due to chemical reactions, that eventualy made conscious cell and cooking on earth have started ..., I thought someone must have had been busy baking bread for that cooking soup to eat it with back them 😂. I don't mean to discredit that guy's "science behind" but that what he says is basicaly fits RS consciousness only model. This chemical reaction back few billions years ago are the same reactions I am having right now making me post this comment here. Thanks much Love. ❤
there wont be any thoughts when you realize the Supreme Self (Infinite Consciousness) that you are. thoughts are like purple removeable things on the screen that is You..the screen that is you is ajata. ajata is an important concept that you should learn about from ramana maharsi..when you remove the purple things you'll be liberated..
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I guess I'd say my experience of thoughts is that they are brain-things. So, experiencing having a brain.
@RupertSpira01 Oh dude... you just brought tears to my eyes with that validation. You have been so helpful to me.
Thoughts arise all the time not all of it can be of any consequences! They are just an interference , like smell you can't avoid aometimes
Hashtag idealism
Everything is born out of Nothing. And therefore, everything retains the qualities of nothing. Everything IS Nothing.
Form is born out of Spirit.
And therefore, it maintains the qualities of Spirit.
Matter IS Spirit.
It cannot be treated just as matter.
The physical and the non-physical are one.
There is no difference.
It is all here.
Nothing goes anywhere.
To connect more to the non-physical, the immaterial, the intangible m, the eternal qualities of oneself, a certain amount of dis-connection and dis-identification with form must occur.
Darkness reveals light.
For day to even exist, night has to occur.
Disconnection leads to connection.
❤🧚🙏💚💦☀️
Ultimately, the disconnection with form implies dis-identification with how we conceptualize form.
In other words, it's the concepts and the beliefs we have mentally constructed and attached to form that have distorted our purity of heart and replaced it with clinginess to ideas instead.
There is NO-THING!
This is my concern. Infinite consciousness expresses through our finite "I" a separate state of "I am". Essentially we are an illusion, born from infinite consciousness. Then it would seem reasonable to assume that death would dissolve that illusory "I am", the individualism, the separatism that we identify as you and me. "You" and "I" would cease to exist. The infinite consciousness, like a kind of amoeba, absorbs or, dare I say "digests" us back into its infinite expanse.
Seems like a scam to me. Just saying. "Eat and be merry for tomorrow we die".
“Death” is just another thought. A dream of an end.
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Reality has been lost in translation. Wisdom has gone with it. All that is left is gibberish.
More to the point, what is prompting the thought for you to experience a thought and for what purpose. I mean the subject has previously went through a mediation/meditaion mode with the so called teacher and the subject is lost in understanding and still cant say what thought he currently has. Here we go again with movie screen comparison and still the subject is none the wiser. I say none the wiser because the so teacher says " if you are experiencing thought", well when you experience something, that means you obtain wisdom, so where is the wisdom in just thought, there is none. For eg, your stomach is hungry, which sends a message to your physical brain via the ego tool that tells the mind of a thought that you are hungry to which you give thought to your favourite food to eat, so , where is the wisdom in that food experience. All you know is that you will be eating your favourite food. The so called teacher has just made a mug of the subject with hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo, now thats a double banger.
There is always an "it" because you have previously known "it" before your current thought of the "it' and to add to that, your are always "it" prompting the thought of " it" you previously experienced. hello!
There is never only consciousness, because reality couldn't care less what your state of consciousness is nor what you perceive, more so, consciousness was not there prior nor during nor after the inception of your lineage when it Formed. Consciuosness is just a tool implemented for awareness but fleeting,ie you can lose consciousness but your physical brain will always be prompted by a thought.
All teachers and guru's attempt to attach reality to consciousness to justify what they say to fit.
@rupertspira-p9l I dont require to relax on a couch, unless you need to.
Thoughts are electromagnetic energy. The same as everything else. Thoughts follow attachments. Thoughts and dreams show what you are attached to. This is where surrender or detachment from the world is critical. Detach from the world and thoughts and dreams disappear. The explanation in this presentation has no substance or meaning. It serves only to confuse because it again points to a consciousness only model which is absurd. Surrender and realize true peace. Let go of your interests of the world and the world moves away from you. That is, the world created by your mind. What appears in its place is reality. The real world. Without surrender, a quiet mind is impossible.
Why is a consciousness only model absurd?
@@DoogieHowitzer1984 Because it is. Consciousness is clearly, observably emergent. It manifests directly in proportion of complexity of the system it manifests through. It’s the most basic experience we have.
@@LN-fj5gg Why does anyone feel the need to say and write what appears here? Including the host? Your question included.
You say thoughts are energy. Are you aware that you have replaced one word with another word….?
@@LN-fj5gg Is that your expectation of Rupert? Maharshi felt the need to write a book. Isn’t it a basic function of life? To communicate? Even if you are totally detached from the world, thoughts still do percolate from that very state of being. There is this preconceived idea of what a spiritual person is and how they “should” behave. What they “would” say if they were enlightened. The problem is, the folks presenting this material are in actuality, experts in dogma, but have no presence in reality. If you watch this long enough, say over 50 years, it eventually dawns on you what is going on and what reality actually is. That is called maturity. Why is it that so many are so quickly willing to dismiss independent thought? Who actually is an expert in anything? Galileo was imprisoned for simply pointing out that the earth revolved around the sun. The “experts” of that day insisted the earth was flat. I am no Galileo, but I do hold a degree in the sciences and have followed spiritual teachings for a long time. Eventually, you realize a few things taught as inconsistent with experience. If you don’t agree, that’s OK. Move on.
What a good waste of time
Wow! I lost time listening to this video.
Nothing wasted. Experience gained.
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