As someone with a lot of childhood trauma, what Rupert says here is true. Analysing the pain/trauma won’t dissolve it. One has to step away from their mind/ego/intellect and just be, feel. Feel your humanness and your emotions. From here the body/mind will start to finally process the pain. One may realise the egoic self built around such experiences was false. This is where trauma can be a profound vehicle for awakening.
@@joajoajb Thank you for your wonderfully thought provoking comments and discussion with @youssefalaoui4286. Can I ask, what are your thoughts on Natural Law (perhaps from the perspective of the Hermetic Principles) and how these might have a say in governing our behaviour as human beings?
@@youssefalaoui4286 Thank you for your wonderfully thought provoking comments and discussion with @joajoajb. Can I ask, what are your thoughts on Natural Law (perhaps from the perspective of the Hermetic Principles) and how these might have a say in governing our behaviour as human beings?
@@alecogden12345 I get it, and it’s not to correct you or something. But most of these claims are still reinforcing the believe that you’re a separate individual that inhabits the body (cq root cause of all suffering)
Well I’ve been doing the past decade of my life wrong. I FINALLY just realized a few days ago that I need to start being gentle with myself, I’ve been pushing too hard and hurting myself emotionally for decades. This video is timely, thank you for validating my path.
Once I realized how my identity was formed, this was enough. On occassions when a surpressed emotion (Samscara) arose I was intrigued by its apprearance and happy to see it as it presented an opportunity to release it. Another catapillar to fly freely.
@@semracalik3040 Your ego identity (the belief that you are a separate self) is created by the beliefs you take on (accept) from your culture. It's the story we tell ourselves about who we THINK we are. These are ideas based on our physical form: how we look, how well we perform according to some standard. Our culture will judge whether our behavior is "good" or "bad," and we do what we do in order to be accepted by others. Then, hopefully, a day comes when you realize it is just a story. Who you TRULY are is and always was perfect - no form, no story, just love.
For me, it's easy to see spiritual practice as a mental journey of discovery, but I've come to learn that our bodies, and the emotions they store, are an essential component of spiritualism. We don't want to feel emotional pain so we set our minds to try to "figure it out", but that resistance just delays the issue and causes lingering pain. The thing I find especially helpful is just accepting that something happened without judging/justifying/analyzing - just accepting the reality that something happened and letting the pain that comes with resistance to it swell up in my chest and just fully experience it. I then direct those physical feelings to my heart where I just sit with them until they slowly pass through me - I imagine them passing through my heart and out of my left shoulder blade where they are released forever. Once I complete that process, I'm no longer triggered by it and I don't ruminate on it any longer. I see this as a mostly physical practice. Our bodies store resistance and we need to to get out of our heads and finally feel the emotional pain stored in our bodies. Out of our heads and into our bodies to fully experience all of the emotional pain that comes from resistance to the reality of an event. It's not an easy process at first, which is why we resist it so fully, but it is the key to putting the pain behind us forever. For me, radically accepting reality in this way is the most powerful spiritual practice there is. It allows me to be present and more easily accept reality as it is without wanting/needing to change it. After some time this process hollows you out, freeing you from stored issues, allowing me to be present as the quiet observer. My greatest wish is that everyone will find the peace and joy I've found through this practice.
Well said. I totally agree with that all our emotions being stored / manifesting in the body, and that we need get in touch with our bodies, in order to truly process and let go of all the emotional pain, wounds that we carry around in our subconsciousness. I believe mind body connection is crucial, in order to identify where exactly the emotions are located in the body. Btw I think I experience something similar to you, when practicing letting go/ releasing emotions, pain, tension etc. Thanks to a lot of mindfulness / meditation practice I’m able to get into like a very warm and peaceful state of consciousness, where it’s like something opens up and the emotions can just wander through by themselves. I think when you’re doing it right, you’re not forcing anything, and the emotions sort of let go and release by themselves, while you just observe in a state of warmness, love and acceptance in the background. After the practice, you feel a sense of liberation, warmth and hollowness like you said yourself.
Love that ending. It's not about feeling (even tho you allow the feeling) it's about BEING the loving awareness your identity /position/person in the matter isn't the feeling feeler.. It's the loving open space of awareness ❤
Some people are very repressed and need to do much more than this for emotions to come up, especially with childhood trauma. I had to do lots of work to get out emotional repression.
Of course, and I'm sure Rupert would agree with that as well. This is sort of the last step in the awakening process. You're talking about ALL of the work that must be done before getting to the point that Rupert is referring to here.
@@Mandance that’s because this new age religion is not the way. Turn to Christ truly, and he’ll work inside your heart. You can be purified through him like a filter to see paradise. 🙏🏼❤️
The key principle seems to be the loving open space of awareness. Being the open loving space of awareness first and then inviting the implicit felt senses into that open loving being. This is repeated many times throughout the answer and the questioner emphasised on “feeling” and “sensing” and “ investigating” instead of “loving”. Psychological treatments of childhood attachment trauma employ similar principle - building and strengthening the provision of safety, security, soothing, comfort, encouragement, joy, play, delight, and unconditional support, before inviting deep seeded maladaptive felt senses to be reprocessed in an open space of loving awareness ❤
Rupert may have an answer to your question. What I am doing is moving my attention from the content of awareness to the allowing of awareness. It is a peaceful, allowing, unconditional love. The mind wants a “how”. Wants to figure it out. The excellent answer above refers to the allowing or being love. I feel it in the heart chakra area in the center of my chest.
I like how Rupert restrains this intense seeker and advises a loving approach of relaxed awareness that flushes these feelings out instead of trying to fight and fix them.
It's important to remember our thoughts are not us - be the non judgmental observer. If you cannot control your thoughts - do not trust them. It's crucial to adopt a zen mindset and always be compassionate and loving to yourself.
I have great respect for Rupert and enjoy his teachings very much, however, in my experience approaching core wounds and traumas in such a non-dualistic way had only limited effect. 'Becoming aware of being aware' is essential to decouple oneself from thoughts and emotions and allows for deeper inner work and introspection - otherwise it can be too scary and intense - but to actually do the inner work I would suggest some type of somatic body work therapy. I had much success with Eugene Gendlin's Focusing to connect with core wounds and give them attention they need.
Having been subject to extreme emotional trauma a few years ago release comes at unexpected times by unexpected triggers. An outburst of grief. A purge. An ejection or even an emotional vomit perhaps. It is not something to be conjured at will.
It's been my direct experience through the years to welcome the most intense feelings into the open, loving awareness which Rupert mentions here.. However.. Whilst amidst an intense contraction it feels almost impossible to open and go through this process.. That's why having the support of somebody who truly understands this way, is really important until we are resourced enough to stay with it.. Sometimes for a few days.
So these things are our own creations. No matter what experience we have, it is us that gives it a meaning in mind. We have to name a thing to bring it forth into existence. We create the thought. We then choose whether we like that thought or not. This is choosing whether or not to love our own creation. If we choose not to love it, and if we have not resolved it as yet, often we just sweep it under the carpet because it is too painful to experience any longer. Now, maybe compare this to your own child. Imagine how they would feel if you loved them not. Is this any different? Go to that place of love within yourself and draw that creation back to yourself. It is an expression of you. All anything ever wants is to be loved. Thank you Rupert and the Spirit within for being there for us all...
“How do I let them out?”: check out the Internal Family System (IFS) developed by Richard Schwartz. Read “no bad parts”, study and practice IFS on your own or with a trained practitioner. The practice is magic and very concrete
@@karinaorion6345 spontaneous, magical and a clear sense of Self has been my experience. A far cry from “made up mental dialogues”. The sensing in the body is also very important and not conflicting with IFS. In fact IFS is integrated by some in yoga, somatic experiencing or breathwork practices.
@@monakelly1720 I think that is an important point, sensing in the body does not conflict with IFS, however it is not always included with IFS. And working with trauma without working with the body is not addressing the whole person. I personally have found both to work great together as well, and if I could only choose one learning how to notice, accept, and lovingly embrace my physical sensations has been the single most healing thing for me.
Don’t be afraid and don’t try to avoid unpleasant things. Don’t cling to pleasant things, trying to perpetuate them. With that said, you don’t go actively seeking unpleasantness of course… and you don’t punish yourself not allowing having fun or getting immersed and fully feeling anything that is wonderful, lovely etc… Don’t cling to anything positive or negative. You can’t outthink life… Feel more and use thought when it’s needed for practical reasons.
Hi This is directed to the person who is asking the question. We all have memories replaying in our minds because we are attached by them. You need to let go of these memories by relaxing and breathing out long slow breath. Hope this helps.
He is so logic. It is a good example video because most of the people around me are this level of logic and structure mind. They want a step by step and want to be sure that after they follow the steps they are enlighten. I'm not judging, I'm just seeing this mind pattern very often
Has anyone ideas for feeling the loving awareness towards yourself when you never learned it? For me it seems easier to feel it for example when another person is anxious. But if I feel anxiety it fells like there is only anxiety and just little space for a loving attitude. Maybe I get an idea if I imagine I am soil and the feelings are seeds that can fall on me an flourish. Or I am a mother and the feelings look like me as a child and I welcome them and hug them. But I think it is not meant by Rupert to imagine a picture like that.
In Internal Family Systems there is a process to 'unblend' from the emotions - so in general, when the deepest layers of our experience rise up they kind of 'take over' our awareness and that leads to the experience of there being 'just a little space' for a loving attitude. The feeling becomes central due to its intensity, and the open, loving space is experienced as being 'eclipsed' by the feelings. Learning how to remain as the spacious loving presence and from there meet and be with (without any agenda) the feelings, deeper content etc then the love and the 'unconscious material' can begin to be in connection with each other, and eventually over time the strong feelings can be resolved and 'healed' by that loving spacious presence.
There are other techniques such as the sway, but much that is stuck is hidden in pockets of the self, Ive found. My inner baby / child stuff was inaccesible for a long time
I think that Rupert should also emphasis not only the feeling of being awarenes spaciousness but also trancenden of these hidden emotions and locked feeling through awareness. Krishnamurti once said: let it flourish and then whidered.
To assist your stuff to come up you best recognise your addictions and compulsions. Reduce or stop these.These are “drives to repair unmet needs” driven by anxiety ( repressed pain). Once you start doing this you start being more present( conscious) . Your pain will. now start to rise up. Vipassana meditation has been very useful. Consciousness with equanimity. Observing sensation with acceptance and equanimity. Accepting everything as it is.
What's going on with Rupert Spira? He used to be very good but now he seems to start leaning more towards 'traditional' self-help buddhism? I can see it in the comments here as well.
1. There is no "one" to invite these feelings. There is no "one" to let these feelings into an open space 2. There is no "one" to make friends with feelings 3. There is no such thing as "subconscious" - even the word "subconscious" is rising in the background of consciousness!!! Feelings, thoughts and perceptions rise on their own accord from the SELF - that IMPERSONAL REALITY.
@@evelinel.9827 With all due respects, is it not true that people are coming to Rupert in search of spiritual truth? If so, Rupert should be providing answers in consonance with helping "one" (an individual) to cognize the ULTIMATE TRUTH of IMPERSONAL REALITY; but here, I see that answers by Rupert are only strengthening the idea of "individual" and "individuality". I do know that Rupert knows that very well but his answers here do not seem to conform to what he has presented beautifully elsewhere. Truth of Nonduality distinguishes itself from all branches of science/religion including modern psychology in showing an "individual", that he/she is not an "individual confined to a set of psychosomatic appartus" but is the IMPERSONAL, INFINITE, ETERNAL, ABSOLUTE REALITY OF EXISTENCE/CONSCIOUSNESS. I hope you see the spirit of what I am trying to convey.
If you experience that yourself constantly that is nice for you! But your words sound like you are trying to tell Rupert what would have been the better answer.
@@bullebap I am not here to tell anything to anybody let alone Rupert. I will let Rupert (zero chance that he will ever see this response of mine) or anyone else reading this/my posting above, decide for themselves whether my writing accords with verifiable truth.
My issue is that I’m scared of those hidden feelings, I’m scared it will be like Pandora’s box. Also because when I have ‘invited’ them at times in the past, maybe to speak about to share them, they have created very extreme physical symptoms that were somewhat dangerous and definitely painful and difficult for hours and hours. So I still don’t know how to allow them and eventually release them.
Feeling is healing 😊 Intelect will not help you here. However feeling is not pleasent... but it is the only path. Thats the pain refering in the books and testaments. Cleansing path Dont worry, have faith. It will disolve. It will take time. 🙏
Honestly wondering-- Rupert advises inviting difficult emotions out of the subconscious and into the loving space of awareness. That seems to suggest that there are things (subconscious emotions) that exist outside of "the conscious space of awareness" (his phrase, just after 8:30). Yes? Doesn't that contradict his basic premise that all we are is is awareness?
As I am listening. It seems as though this consciousness, as I see, as I feel as the intuition flows. I see these energies, such as memory, and within that the frequencies of aura. Somehow the consciousness neural networks with these frequencies, and the frequency is the somehow Become muted out from the more active. I am conscious activities of the mind, subvert the intuitive attention of that, and until the consciousness gets the signs and the signals to somehow take a deeper look at these energies. And yes, it is true it is if you are a warm blanket. And you invite this Young child who is feeling unwell and you are in the position of holding space if you will. Or you are as the space. But somehow this vibratory frequency of trauma, and suffering, somehow needs to feel recognized and welcome through the frequencies of the intuition. And somehow, once these frequencies are welcomed and invited, it will be the marinating and digesting and discerning of offering freedom to the energies that somehow seem blocked. Something as your self loves yourself as yourself. And here, seemingly it’s a process of this consciousness. A cycle. A spiral.
Firstly I thought he said he was having nightmares. Secondary very few people reveal their real issues to therapists ( until after several sessions) so I doubt if he would be that open in this space.
Your explanation is a bit frustrating in that the questioner clearly does not understand, and instead of trying to explain your point in different terms, you say the exact same thing over and over again. They seem to be missing the bigger picture as you had put it, that they need to breathe and relax into a space of loving openness, which would create an opportunity for the subconscious mind to feel safe enough to bring to the surface some of this hidden material. So maybe there is a step in this questioners process where they think they’re creating this open space, but maybe lack the awareness of a certain factor of whatever space they’re stepping into.. and thus might actually be in a space that isn’t open or loving enough. Basically they likely need to try further to have that open space, and let go of the beginning layers of fear of what may come up, etc.
74744 To much big words for something soo simple. You bring them up by not trying to bring them up, as the young man himself says they come up in his dreams, so the reason he can't bring them up is he wants to control something which happens naturally and at it's own time. Never. Being to open loving space of awareness as the master is saying and when the come you befriend them from that loving empty space of awareness and hold their hand and walk with them instead of wishing to devow them and destroy them and get rid of them. You can't win the fight.❤🎉😊
How about just doing some trauma work & therapy mate? People tend to become to one sided in their approach… There are some levels of unresolved emotional issues that regular spiritual practice just won’t get to the root cause of it. That’s where the east can actually learn quite a lot from pioneers of the west, such as Gabor Mate, Peter Levine, Bessel van der Kolk etc.
Yes. We are not Gods. We are the children of God. God is the divine creator. We can only create openings for God to deliver us from darkness. Many blessings to you.
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As someone with a lot of childhood trauma, what Rupert says here is true.
Analysing the pain/trauma won’t dissolve it. One has to step away from their mind/ego/intellect and just be, feel. Feel your humanness and your emotions. From here the body/mind will start to finally process the pain. One may realise the egoic self built around such experiences was false. This is where trauma can be a profound vehicle for awakening.
*Thank you!*
Exactly❤
There is an eternal child in every temporary adult. When trauma arises hug that child with everything you got. Nobody will if you don’t do it.
@youssefalaoui4286: 🙏🏻💛
@@joajoajbI’m just speaking from experience. What else can we do🤷♂️
Life = Good and from Life arise the notions of “good” and “bad”.
@@joajoajb Thank you for your wonderfully thought provoking comments and discussion with @youssefalaoui4286. Can I ask, what are your thoughts on Natural Law (perhaps from the perspective of the Hermetic Principles) and how these might have a say in governing our behaviour as human beings?
@@youssefalaoui4286 Thank you for your wonderfully thought provoking comments and discussion with @joajoajb. Can I ask, what are your thoughts on Natural Law (perhaps from the perspective of the Hermetic Principles) and how these might have a say in governing our behaviour as human beings?
Beautifully said.
Become the person you need most
💙
There’s no person in reality
@@JVZ-c4i It's a figure of speech, a limitation of language. How about "develop the qualities you need most" lol.
@@alecogden12345 I get it, and it’s not to correct you or something. But most of these claims are still reinforcing the believe that you’re a separate individual that inhabits the body (cq root cause of all suffering)
Well I’ve been doing the past decade of my life wrong. I FINALLY just realized a few days ago that I need to start being gentle with myself, I’ve been pushing too hard and hurting myself emotionally for decades. This video is timely, thank you for validating my path.
me too
Once I realized how my identity was formed, this was enough. On occassions when a surpressed emotion (Samscara) arose I was intrigued by its apprearance and happy to see it as it presented an opportunity to release it. Another catapillar to fly freely.
Beautifully said
❤
Great outlook ❤
Hi, how is our identity exactly formed? Thx 🙏
@@semracalik3040 Your ego identity (the belief that you are a separate self) is created by the beliefs you take on (accept) from your culture. It's the story we tell ourselves about who we THINK we are. These are ideas based on our physical form: how we look, how well we perform according to some standard. Our culture will judge whether our behavior is "good" or "bad," and we do what we do in order to be accepted by others. Then, hopefully, a day comes when you realize it is just a story. Who you TRULY are is and always was perfect - no form, no story, just love.
One needs to decouple bodily sensations from stories and memories and meet them with compassion. The body keeps the score when it comes to trauma etc.
For me, it's easy to see spiritual practice as a mental journey of discovery, but I've come to learn that our bodies, and the emotions they store, are an essential component of spiritualism. We don't want to feel emotional pain so we set our minds to try to "figure it out", but that resistance just delays the issue and causes lingering pain. The thing I find especially helpful is just accepting that something happened without judging/justifying/analyzing - just accepting the reality that something happened and letting the pain that comes with resistance to it swell up in my chest and just fully experience it. I then direct those physical feelings to my heart where I just sit with them until they slowly pass through me - I imagine them passing through my heart and out of my left shoulder blade where they are released forever.
Once I complete that process, I'm no longer triggered by it and I don't ruminate on it any longer. I see this as a mostly physical practice. Our bodies store resistance and we need to to get out of our heads and finally feel the emotional pain stored in our bodies. Out of our heads and into our bodies to fully experience all of the emotional pain that comes from resistance to the reality of an event. It's not an easy process at first, which is why we resist it so fully, but it is the key to putting the pain behind us forever.
For me, radically accepting reality in this way is the most powerful spiritual practice there is. It allows me to be present and more easily accept reality as it is without wanting/needing to change it. After some time this process hollows you out, freeing you from stored issues, allowing me to be present as the quiet observer.
My greatest wish is that everyone will find the peace and joy I've found through this practice.
Thx for sharing!
Well said. I totally agree with that all our emotions being stored / manifesting in the body, and that we need get in touch with our bodies, in order to truly process and let go of all the emotional pain, wounds that we carry around in our subconsciousness. I believe mind body connection is crucial, in order to identify where exactly the emotions are located in the body.
Btw I think I experience something similar to you, when practicing letting go/ releasing emotions, pain, tension etc. Thanks to a lot of mindfulness / meditation practice I’m able to get into like a very warm and peaceful state of consciousness, where it’s like something opens up and the emotions can just wander through by themselves. I think when you’re doing it right, you’re not forcing anything, and the emotions sort of let go and release by themselves, while you just observe in a state of warmness, love and acceptance in the background. After the practice, you feel a sense of liberation, warmth and hollowness like you said yourself.
Love that ending. It's not about feeling (even tho you allow the feeling) it's about BEING the loving awareness your identity /position/person in the matter isn't the feeling feeler.. It's the loving open space of awareness ❤
Some people are very repressed and need to do much more than this for emotions to come up, especially with childhood trauma. I had to do lots of work to get out emotional repression.
Yes it’s so hard. Even 5 years of deep inner work, meditation, psychedelics, I still feel bad most of the time
Of course, and I'm sure Rupert would agree with that as well. This is sort of the last step in the awakening process. You're talking about ALL of the work that must be done before getting to the point that Rupert is referring to here.
@@Mandance that’s because this new age religion is not the way. Turn to Christ truly, and he’ll work inside your heart. You can be purified through him like a filter to see paradise. 🙏🏼❤️
@@Strawman333 what you're suggesting is truly spiritual bypassing.
have a look at Gopals work about "honest sharing" which adresses exact this topic about childhood trauma
The key principle seems to be the loving open space of awareness. Being the open loving space of awareness first and then inviting the implicit felt senses into that open loving being. This is repeated many times throughout the answer and the questioner emphasised on “feeling” and “sensing” and “ investigating” instead of “loving”.
Psychological treatments of childhood attachment trauma employ similar principle - building and strengthening the provision of safety, security, soothing, comfort, encouragement, joy, play, delight, and unconditional support, before inviting deep seeded maladaptive felt senses to be reprocessed in an open space of loving awareness ❤
How to be this loving space?
Rupert may have an answer to your question. What I am doing is moving my attention from the content of awareness to the allowing of awareness. It is a peaceful, allowing, unconditional love. The mind wants a “how”. Wants to figure it out. The excellent answer above refers to the allowing or being love. I feel it in the heart chakra area in the center of my chest.
I like how Rupert restrains this intense seeker and advises a loving approach of relaxed awareness that flushes these feelings out instead of trying to fight and fix them.
It's important to remember our thoughts are not us - be the non judgmental observer.
If you cannot control your thoughts - do not trust them.
It's crucial to adopt a zen mindset and always be compassionate and loving to yourself.
Stop looking for a solution, and simply open to feeling what is. The rest will unravel without your intervention.
Love this!
There is a good line: "You can"t DO the BE" (John de Ruiter)
I have great respect for Rupert and enjoy his teachings very much, however, in my experience approaching core wounds and traumas in such a non-dualistic way had only limited effect. 'Becoming aware of being aware' is essential to decouple oneself from thoughts and emotions and allows for deeper inner work and introspection - otherwise it can be too scary and intense - but to actually do the inner work I would suggest some type of somatic body work therapy. I had much success with Eugene Gendlin's Focusing to connect with core wounds and give them attention they need.
agreed. These things are accessible with somatic work
Having been subject to extreme emotional trauma a few years ago release comes at unexpected times by unexpected triggers. An outburst of grief. A purge. An ejection or even an emotional vomit perhaps. It is not something to be conjured at will.
immerse oneself in the beauty of ones own being, ❤ Thankyou Rupert
Absolutely beautiful way to heal trauma
Rupert hits it out of the park in this one
Plant a seed. Feel the love of yourself as seed. Watch the seed grow. Feel the love of watching seed grow.
It's been my direct experience through the years to welcome the most intense feelings into the open, loving awareness which Rupert mentions here.. However.. Whilst amidst an intense contraction it feels almost impossible to open and go through this process.. That's why having the support of somebody who truly understands this way, is really important until we are resourced enough to stay with it.. Sometimes for a few days.
That was such a loving helpful response. Thank you!
We humans know how to make simple things so difficult.
What can I say, you were brilliant. I hope the young man gets it. Peace.
That was clear. Such a subtle approach. I love the questioner for his willingness and capturing his question. Very good. Not clinically but lovingly
So these things are our own creations. No matter what experience we have, it is us that gives it a meaning in mind. We have to name a thing to bring it forth into existence. We create the thought. We then choose whether we like that thought or not. This is choosing whether or not to love our own creation. If we choose not to love it, and if we have not resolved it as yet, often we just sweep it under the carpet because it is too painful to experience any longer. Now, maybe compare this to your own child. Imagine how they would feel if you loved them not. Is this any different? Go to that place of love within yourself and draw that creation back to yourself. It is an expression of you. All anything ever wants is to be loved. Thank you Rupert and the Spirit within for being there for us all...
Thank you Rupert 🙏❤️
“How do I let them out?”: check out the Internal Family System (IFS) developed by Richard Schwartz. Read “no bad parts”, study and practice IFS on your own or with a trained practitioner. The practice is magic and very concrete
Focusing is way better than IFS. One must sense into the body instead of making up "mental diaologues".
@@karinaorion6345 spontaneous, magical and a clear sense of Self has been my experience. A far cry from “made up mental dialogues”. The sensing in the body is also very important and not conflicting with IFS. In fact IFS is integrated by some in yoga, somatic experiencing or breathwork practices.
@@monakelly1720 I'm glad it worked for you.
@@monakelly1720 I think that is an important point, sensing in the body does not conflict with IFS, however it is not always included with IFS. And working with trauma without working with the body is not addressing the whole person. I personally have found both to work great together as well, and if I could only choose one learning how to notice, accept, and lovingly embrace my physical sensations has been the single most healing thing for me.
@@twanmartin5773100% agree with you. I’ve seen too many people stuck in just “talk therapy”. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you--beautiful message to heal.
Sound quality is wonderful. ✌️🤓✌️
😂
So true, I am very identified with some of the pains I have as a result… Rupert is right, loving attention (and not being in tension WITH the pain)
Exactly my question, thank you for asking. I like the answer and will try, already doing it. A softening is needed. Very good.
Thank you so much sir
Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
thank you
Don’t be afraid and don’t try to avoid unpleasant things.
Don’t cling to pleasant things, trying to perpetuate them.
With that said, you don’t go actively seeking unpleasantness of course… and you don’t punish yourself not allowing having fun or getting immersed and fully feeling anything that is wonderful, lovely etc…
Don’t cling to anything positive or negative.
You can’t outthink life… Feel more and use thought when it’s needed for practical reasons.
Thank you so😊 much💖
Gracias 🙏🏼
Hi
This is directed to the person who is asking the question.
We all have memories replaying in our minds because we are attached by them.
You need to let go of these memories by relaxing and breathing out long slow breath. Hope this helps.
He is so logic. It is a good example video because most of the people around me are this level of logic and structure mind. They want a step by step and want to be sure that after they follow the steps they are enlighten.
I'm not judging, I'm just seeing this mind pattern very often
I love this
Feel it to heal it
This is facts. It works🎉
Has anyone ideas for feeling the loving awareness towards yourself when you never learned it? For me it seems easier to feel it for example when another person is anxious. But if I feel anxiety it fells like there is only anxiety and just little space for a loving attitude. Maybe I get an idea if I imagine I am soil and the feelings are seeds that can fall on me an flourish. Or I am a mother and the feelings look like me as a child and I welcome them and hug them. But I think it is not meant by Rupert to imagine a picture like that.
In Internal Family Systems there is a process to 'unblend' from the emotions - so in general, when the deepest layers of our experience rise up they kind of 'take over' our awareness and that leads to the experience of there being 'just a little space' for a loving attitude. The feeling becomes central due to its intensity, and the open, loving space is experienced as being 'eclipsed' by the feelings. Learning how to remain as the spacious loving presence and from there meet and be with (without any agenda) the feelings, deeper content etc then the love and the 'unconscious material' can begin to be in connection with each other, and eventually over time the strong feelings can be resolved and 'healed' by that loving spacious presence.
Go all the way! 👍
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There are other techniques such as the sway, but much that is stuck is hidden in pockets of the self, Ive found. My inner baby / child stuff was inaccesible for a long time
I'd like to see the video where you, Rupert, speak of devouring the emotions. Do you have a link/video to suggest? Thank you for all...🤗
Trapped emotions are an Actual thing. Not some philosophical fancy. Use EFT tapping to release them
The Emotion Code can help to heal and transmute trapped emotions 🙏💜💙
I think that Rupert should also emphasis not only the feeling of being awarenes spaciousness but also trancenden of these hidden emotions and locked feeling through awareness. Krishnamurti once said: let it flourish and then whidered.
Swami Prajnanpad included a work on emotions and the subconscious within the non-dual sadhana. A book is available in English
To assist your stuff to come up you best recognise your addictions and compulsions. Reduce or stop these.These are “drives to repair unmet needs” driven by anxiety ( repressed pain). Once you start doing this you start being more present( conscious) . Your pain will. now start to rise up.
Vipassana meditation has been very useful. Consciousness with equanimity. Observing sensation with acceptance and equanimity. Accepting everything as it is.
I am reminded of the poem Beautiful Creature by Hafiz...❤
What's going on with Rupert Spira? He used to be very good but now he seems to start leaning more towards 'traditional' self-help buddhism? I can see it in the comments here as well.
True. I feel his answer was too generic.
1. There is no "one" to invite these feelings. There is no "one" to let these feelings into an open space
2. There is no "one" to make friends with feelings
3. There is no such thing as "subconscious" - even the word "subconscious" is rising in the background of consciousness!!!
Feelings, thoughts and perceptions rise on their own accord from the SELF - that IMPERSONAL REALITY.
This may be true in the absolute but if an non realised person follows this they are just spiritually bypassing.
@@evelinel.9827 With all due respects, is it not true that people are coming to Rupert in search of spiritual truth? If so, Rupert should be providing answers in consonance with helping "one" (an individual) to cognize the ULTIMATE TRUTH of IMPERSONAL REALITY; but here, I see that answers by Rupert are only strengthening the idea of "individual" and "individuality". I do know that Rupert knows that very well but his answers here do not seem to conform to what he has presented beautifully elsewhere. Truth of Nonduality distinguishes itself from all branches of science/religion including modern psychology in showing an "individual", that he/she is not an "individual confined to a set of psychosomatic appartus" but is the IMPERSONAL, INFINITE, ETERNAL, ABSOLUTE REALITY OF EXISTENCE/CONSCIOUSNESS. I hope you see the spirit of what I am trying to convey.
If you experience that yourself constantly that is nice for you! But your words sound like you are trying to tell Rupert what would have been the better answer.
@@bullebap I am not here to tell anything to anybody let alone Rupert. I will let Rupert (zero chance that he will ever see this response of mine) or anyone else reading this/my posting above, decide for themselves whether my writing accords with verifiable truth.
Dealing with emotions and trauma is mainly bodily work. You have to feel and release it.
Rupert said feel awareness, not the emotion itself..
Open and soften ....
Body scans can be helpful
My issue is that I’m scared of those hidden feelings, I’m scared it will be like Pandora’s box. Also because when I have ‘invited’ them at times in the past, maybe to speak about to share them, they have created very extreme physical symptoms that were somewhat dangerous and definitely painful and difficult for hours and hours. So I still don’t know how to allow them and eventually release them.
Selflove
1:37 = summary of technique
Rupert, would it be possible to capture an image of the phantom limb through the door using Kirlian Photography?
Feeling is healing 😊
Intelect will not help you here.
However feeling is not pleasent... but it is the only path.
Thats the pain refering in the books and testaments.
Cleansing path
Dont worry, have faith. It will disolve. It will take time.
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Honestly wondering-- Rupert advises inviting difficult emotions out of the subconscious and into the loving space of awareness. That seems to suggest that there are things (subconscious emotions) that exist outside of "the conscious space of awareness" (his phrase, just after 8:30). Yes? Doesn't that contradict his basic premise that all we are is is awareness?
"Kissing the toad"
As I am listening. It seems as though this consciousness, as I see, as I feel as the intuition flows. I see these energies, such as memory, and within that the frequencies of aura. Somehow the consciousness neural networks with these frequencies, and the frequency is the somehow Become muted out from the more active. I am conscious activities of the mind, subvert the intuitive attention of that, and until the consciousness gets the signs and the signals to somehow take a deeper look at these energies. And yes, it is true it is if you are a warm blanket. And you invite this Young child who is feeling unwell and you are in the position of holding space if you will. Or you are as the space. But somehow this vibratory frequency of trauma, and suffering, somehow needs to feel recognized and welcome through the frequencies of the intuition. And somehow, once these frequencies are welcomed and invited, it will be the marinating and digesting and discerning of offering freedom to the energies that somehow seem blocked. Something as your self loves yourself as yourself. And here, seemingly it’s a process of this consciousness. A cycle. A spiral.
So being loving open awarness? 😅
make friends!
For what it’s worth, carnivore may be part of the healing foundation if life long carb addiction has been involved with the life long trauma cycle.
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Unconscious* - what Carl Kung says
I don't understand why this young man feels the need to "bring up" his past traumas. He doesn't claim that they are causing suffering.
Sorry but this comment is not appropriate, he brought it up be cause he needed
Firstly I thought he said he was having nightmares. Secondary very few people reveal their real issues to therapists ( until after several sessions) so I doubt if he would be that open in this space.
@@ekk.k Because he needed what?
هل العقل الباطن يقصد الذاكرة ام العقل اللاوعي
Your explanation is a bit frustrating in that the questioner clearly does not understand, and instead of trying to explain your point in different terms, you say the exact same thing over and over again. They seem to be missing the bigger picture as you had put it, that they need to breathe and relax into a space of loving openness, which would create an opportunity for the subconscious mind to feel safe enough to bring to the surface some of this hidden material.
So maybe there is a step in this questioners process where they think they’re creating this open space, but maybe lack the awareness of a certain factor of whatever space they’re stepping into.. and thus might actually be in a space that isn’t open or loving enough.
Basically they likely need to try further to have that open space, and let go of the beginning layers of fear of what may come up, etc.
Just stay. Carm. And don't think at all 🙏🙊🙉🙈
74744 To much big words for something soo simple. You bring them up by not trying to bring them up, as the young man himself says they come up in his dreams, so the reason he can't bring them up is he wants to control something which happens naturally and at it's own time. Never. Being to open loving space of awareness as the master is saying and when the come you befriend them from that loving empty space of awareness and hold their hand and walk with them instead of wishing to devow them and destroy them and get rid of them. You can't win the fight.❤🎉😊
Treat emotions like children
How about just doing some trauma work & therapy mate? People tend to become to one sided in their approach…
There are some levels of unresolved emotional issues that regular spiritual practice just won’t get to the root cause of it.
That’s where the east can actually learn quite a lot from pioneers of the west, such as Gabor Mate, Peter Levine, Bessel van der Kolk etc.
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so many words. seems like a lot of double talk. is this what reality is?
You just let god heal you. He is the only one capable
Yes. We are not Gods. We are the children of God. God is the divine creator. We can only create openings for God to deliver us from darkness. Many blessings to you.
@@Strawman333 you are god and his servant… if you choose to.
Jai shri ram
This is Spiritual Bypassing.
@@evelinel.9827 ram hare ram
BEAUTIFUL CREATURE” BY HAFIZ
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There is a beautiful creature living in a hole you have dug, so at night I set fruit and grains and little pots of wine and milk beside your soft earthen mounds, and I often sing to you, but still, my dear, you do not come out. I have fallen in love with someone who is hiding inside of you. We should talk about this problem, otherwise I will never leave you alone! from Love Poems from God. Published by Penguin Compass. Copyright © 2002 by Daniel Ladinsky, Ed.
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