Luminar NEO vs Luminar AI // WORTH THE UPGRADE?
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0:00 - Intro
1:31 - Luminar Neo vs Luminar AI
4:23 - Real-time performance test of Luminar Neo
8:02 - New AI functions in Luminar Neo
11:31 - Should you upgrade from Luminar AI to Luminar Neo?
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OK, I'm sold .... you are always very good & detailed when you show off products!
Im sure its good. But the problem is Skylum´s strategy. Instead of making a software stable and good..and make it better with new functions, they come out with a new software, making people buying the new one all the time. And when they start on a new one, the abandon the old one..Happend from Luminar 3 to 4, to AI and now Neo. Brilliant business for them...
Yeah, I really wish they would at least offer a trade-up program, to upgrade your existing license to the new software. I log in to my Skylum account and my library is Photolemur 3 x 5, Aurora 2018 x 5, Aurora 2019 x 5, Luminar 4 x 5, Luminar Ai x 1, Luminar Neo x 1. I'll never touch the old software again, so why hang on to all these obsolete licenses? All my other photo and art applications let me turn my old license in for a new version at a discount.
I’m trying to decide between luminar and lightroom. As you say, although not called a subscription it seems as though Skylum will have you spending money each year so perhaps it’s not the bargain it seems. Of course you can continue to use outdated software. You also have to buy a separate program for hdr so I’m thinking for me lightroom looks favourite.
@@sshaw37 As long as you get the right version, you can make Luminar last a while. I just do a lot more than what Luminar is capable of, but I still love its features, so I use it as a Photoshop plugin.
Plenty of people do great on Lightroom alone, but it's not a full featured editor; it's really just a catalog application with raw processing. It is getting more and more features as Adobe updates it, making it a powerful raw editor, but if I had to choose between only Lightroom or Luminar Neo, i would go for Luminar. With the features advertised, it'll be a beast of a program, and you get to skip the monthly fees. As for the longevity of Luminar versions, they are still supported several years out, even if they keep releasing new versions.
And for HDR, even though I have Aurora, I never find the need to use it. You can still merge bracketed shots in Luminar, and that gets all the detail I need out of my projects.
Oh, also, if you don't absolutely need everything Neo offers over Ai, Humble Bundle has a sweet deal going for a bundle similar to the one I got Luminar 4 in, which includes Aurora if you need the HDR: www.humblebundle.com/software/photo-editing-to-max-with-luminar-ai-software
@@LimitedSpectrum EXACTLY! I’m in the same boat. That’s why Skylum’s promotion machine (including affiliates) made the point early on that Neo is NOT an upgrade but a totally new application. Really!?
Yeah, with such a bizarre strategy it makes the subscription services they're pointing and laughing at seem like less of a headache. At least I know with Adobe that I only ever have to worry about one version of any piece of software.
I’m yet another Luminar customer who’s fed up hearing of a great update only to find that I have to buy a ‘brand new’ product rather than get an inclusive upgrade, and thinks their business model is taking the piss and unnecessarily faffy. They probably think they’re industry disrupters, when in fact they’re just alienating existing customers and putting off potential new ones when they check the reviews and hear that this is another annual complete rebuild. Their file management philosophy really doesn’t encourage me to stick with the brand, let alone ‘upgrade’.
Such a pleasure listening to you!
I so much like you, your reviews are just so good.... accent, being straight to the point, good explanation... so perfect
I have Luminar 4 and this relight + matte function are really interesting.. I love that this is good for photography business.. not too much time for editing and get great results.. I have affinity for more complicated photos like photo manipulation etc..
I have the AI and NEO now. I love how much faster it is and the tools and masking features are good at the moment and I am looking forward to the future updates.
Just discovered your channel keep crushing it ❤️🙌
Thank you for this preliminary review: excellent and very useful. I am looking for the release of the Neo.
Cleared my questions thank you so much
Thanks for preview of Luminar NEO, it looks to have some very useful features. I pre-ordered it a few months ago and now look forward it's release next year. And you always do a great job with these videos, you explain things so clearly. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for your comments as always Ron!
Great presentation! I look forward to getting the Neo version.
Always a pleasure ❤️
I’m really tempted by luminar, but I love the cloud syncing between my pc and phone, and the ability to edit on mobile when I need to (Lightroom).
Hi there, I'm impressed with the ability to remove power lines , I don't know if you been to Bangkok but I can say that photos taken here in Thailand really would benefit of this software. Merry Christmas and a Happy new year from Thailand 👍🏻🙏🏻 and thank you for so many good and useful videos during 2021 ❤️
Thanks Stephan! Funnily enough, I was just looking at some old Thailand photos from Phuket Town and was thinking what a good test they would be for this function!
Thanks so much, for your tutorial.
Great vídeo!!! Please, what tripod do you use?
Hi There! I know it's not related to the video, but... Could you tell me the name of the lights you have on the background, behind you? I've been looking for something like that for a while.
Thanks man! Love your videos!
Hey thank you for your excellent videos. Do you know about Luminar 4 vs Neo? Thank you!
Hi Stewart. I've just discovered your channel and slowly getting back into photography after a couple of years absent from using Lightroom. What would be your personal recommendations for the lowest spec iMAC for when using photo editing software such as NEO? Would an i5 processor with 8GIG RAM be ok or would you stretch to 16GIG? Also would it be better using NEO with Aurora and Topaz as a complete package?
Great preview - thanks! How is the file handling side of NEO compared with previous versions? If we're talking about Luminar [any version] as an alternative to LR, we *must* talk about file/folder management and the end-to-end digital workflow that Luminar seems to still be pretty basic at.
Hey! Can't say for sure because the final version isn't out but I suspect it will be similar to AI. Don't get the impression their goal is to replicate a full file management system like Lightroom. I would imagine pro users that rely on Lightroom for their workflow might use the plugin functionality of Luminar with Lightroom so they can dip in and out as required.
Superb information, I’ve invested in Neo, already got and love AI. Cost wise , and time saving… it’s Luminar family all the way for me 📷🙌🏻
Bought a package last night from Skylum after the trial week. I get Neon on release in Feb 22. Already visited some old images and reworked them. Aurora HDR cam with the package too so looking forward to 5 AEB with the M2P and see what results I can get.
So Far So Good really like to know if my existing templates and skies from AI will work Neo?
Jumped in with both feet last year and it has been a horrific experience… Have been using - or trying to use better said - the Skylum software on a new beefed up Zephyrus and still CAN’T open some of the RAW pictures I took on a hike with my iPhone!
Skylum replied that the problem should be resolved in a “future release” and yet two have gone by and the problem persists.
Before releasing new software that essentially does the same as Luminar 4/AI combined I think they should focus on making sure THAT works properly first.
Good job Stewart.
I have luminar 4 and I’m about to upgrade should i get ai and neo or just get neo? Does ai do anything that neo won’t? I’m mostly doing drone images just started playing with portraits thanks again for another great video
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This was an odd move by Luminar. I did jump and the drastic discount when it was announced. Too much of a discount not to try. Hopefully they will launch soon.
Hi I noticed you did a before and after in this video. Is there a quick way to do this in Luminar AI or did you just side the tab at the top in Luminar?
They keep making a new version and leaving the “old one” in an unfinished state. Might as well be a subscription service tbh.
agree haha their way of work is just ridiculus, instead of fixing a program they make a new one with a few things and you end up with 4 or 5, all with different function and they dont even integrate with ech other, you need to export import photos to use one tool in one lol
I'm not too fussed, I've updated to Neo for 26 quid, that is less than 3 months subscription to Adobe LR
That was the perfect tempo to information ratio
Great overview Stewart, as someone who has a few Luminar products already I must say that this is both exciting and a little frustrating as I could pretty much do with just two products once this is released (Aurora HDR and Neo).
I’ve been holding off on pre-ordering but it is looking more and more tempting, particularly the powerlines removal as I do a lot of real estate photography out in the country and often my favourite drone angle of a house is ruined by power lines.
Here’s one tip I saw in another video that you might like to try out - If you close a function after adjusting it, like say relight AI, and then reopen it again you can add another layer of that same effect and I don’t think there is a limit to how many times you can do this.
So you could relight foreground to 100%, close and open and then add another relight foreground to 100% and so on.
Then if you click on history at the top right it’ll open up as layers of history, sort of like the effects column but only with the effects you have used and you can adjust them, hide, move them up of down in the hierarchy or delete them similar to layers, though I don’t think this is the layers function that they are talking about but it looks very interesting and a great way of working with your history. Certainly something that entices me.
Anyway love your videos. The first video I watched was the DJI Mini 1 review back when your channel was ‘Drone Film Guide’ and it helped convince me to buy one (though by the time I did some weeks later the mini 2 had just been released so I got that instead and love it).
Thank you for your comment! Great to hear that you're still with us here on the channel since the Mavic Mini came out! Indeed, the ability to use the same effect twice or more is a nice touch and adds more versatility to things. Like you say, it's not the full layer-based functionality they are talking about though. I'm sure we'll do another video at some point once the full version is up and running. Cheers!
still using 4 lol. I jumped on the huge discount for this version. looks a good upgrade. I like using Luminar to add finishing touches to images.
Good video and tutorial
Seems they release a new version every year... I would have expected these new features to be an update to AI...
love your intro .. nice simple fast and creative (mostly fast) ... haha I'm actually sick of long with lots of graphics and effects shit.
Thank you.
I like to use luminar. But 4, then AI, then Neo. That's a joke. Talking about upgrade when it should free evolution of the same product. Horrible business model. Actually, if we have to repay every year, then lightroom come back as a must have...
LR costs $120 a year. I paid $34 to upgrade to Neo
@@worldfromtheair OK, but you lose your photo catalog upgrading, as it is not compatible between luminar 4, AI and i guess Neo... A pity
@@worldfromtheair Difference is…LR works!
Skylum is like the trailer for a bad movie… Looks awesome UNTIL you see the whole thing.
Right...
@@worldfromtheair frankly i really wonder if i will go back to Lightroom... I moved from Luminar 3 to 4 then to AI. I experienced bad issues loosing my catalog multiple time. Arghhhh.
Any chance you could give us a video of how you edit the audio from the rode or DJI mics? Your audio is everything I hope to achieve someday. :)
Sure thing!!
@@DroneFilmGuide yay! Can’t wait
So as a new guy to these softwares do you recommend AI or neo?
Using luminar Neo, is it possible to edit a photo, and then export all of the adjustments as a LUT for use in Final Cut Pro X?
Hello, thanks for this video! I switched to Luminar Neo after watching this, and it's got a few of cool new features, but I've been having some problems with it.
It takes WAY longer to paste adjustments than Luminar AI did, and because of the way it stacks the adjustments, you can't change one thing and see how it affects the photo overall.
On top of that the undo button doesn't seem to undo any changes you just made, which sucks if you didn't take note of where you had something before you changed it.
It also seems to take WAY longer to open a photo at full res for some reason.
I'm running it on an M1, so I don't know if that's affecting things.
Have you run into these problems yourself?
I have the pretty old luminar 2018 on my PC, and I gave up using it due to the speed and lack of basic functionality. Went back to lightroom and my life became a whole lot easier. But now I'm considering going back to luminar, however, your review is making me hesitate tbh. Im still torn between luminar neo or on1 photo raw. I need something to replace my lightroom, really hated the fact that they moved to fully subscription based.
@@4b1dd3n the support team has been pretty good. I've been finding that if I keep my catalogs small everything is faster. Neo isn't not really built the same as the older Luminar AI, but it's really good still. It also may just be like this for people on MacBook M1s. There's a whole support thread for us and everyone seems to have an M1 and the same issues
@@4b1dd3n Luminar AI works great for me, I'm running a Ryzen 7 3700U laptop with 16GB DDR4 Ram, this isn't even a high-end device, and it works well. Just know it takes a few extra seconds to open RAW files. Also, I've noticed if I open task manager it hoards system resources, but it should not be that bad on any decent desktop setup or higher end laptop.
Whats the name of the mic tripod?
Is it ride mic 2?
Thanks
What's the name of the led lights behind you? Share the link please.
Stew, I have AI, if I get NEO do I delete AI of does it just cover over it? Worried about memory...... Thanx and great videos!
Hey Kevin, NEO runs as a separate programme so you can have the two on your computer side-by-side if you want. If you're deleting AI however and want to transfer your catalog then definitely back it up and check how to do that.
I really want to try out luminar ai but is luminar ai going to have support as now neo is the new software. Lightroom keeps get updated even thought most of it is really minor performance does not jump up off the roof at every update. The performance of luminar ai looks pretty good but i'm not sure in the long run i would continue to use it as I do use the cloud option of lightroom quite often and its not an option on luminar unfortunately
2023 Neo site - looks like they want the same subscriptiosystem as LR has - the buy-version is stripped - I do not like subscriptions - I want to buy it but use it either on my Mac mini M2 at home or underway on my M1 Air - do I have to buy it 2 times?
Does Skylum maintain Luminar 4, AI and Neo as 3 products with updates to all? No mention on the website which was odd and reading comments here it sounds like they keep creating new products expecting one to migrate each time. I assume if one purchased AI you could use with that functionality forever - but no bug fixes nor enhancements?
So if I bought Neo, will I still get any benefit from Luminar 4 and AI, which I own both?
Would love to see recommendations for NON-AI based editing software. AI just seems to me like a privacy issue.
I wish they would include panorama stitching capability in the Luminar software....Im waiting for that to move away from LR /PS subscription...
Did you notice any improvement in the library management? In previous versions they never got it right. Even on very powerful pc’s managing a photo library with more than a few hundred photos is too slow to be workable.
Hey! Can't comment at this stage because we didn't import 100s of photos so we haven't tested this. Also, it's still a pre-release version of the software. Cheers.
Luminar 4 Ai vs neo - neo can do power lines -- that’s it
Well, if I need to shell 79 EUR each year for new version of Luminar, I might as well get Lightroom subscription and get better software, especially regarding the photo library management. Learnt it the hard way.
Great as always. **Question and Comment** Could you request stray hair removal for portraits? That would be AMAZING!! Since they have power line removal, including stray hair removal would be ultra helpful for us portrait photographers.
That would be the best! Let’s wait another year to purchase the new Luminar version for that one
@@wilsonwhanau5618 It’ll be a whole new product, •Luminar Hair• or something like that!
If I get luminar ai now would there be any problem upgrading to neo when the full version comes out?
Great!
Your before and after on the power line picture: how did you not notice the complete color change in the building. Why on earth would the color change for the entire structure when only removing the lines?
I'm kind of disappointed in Skylum for the way they're doing these new Luminar versions. I preordered Luminar AI, because they told me it was a new engine. Luminar 4 was neat, but it was not optimized for Windows PCs. Hearing about the new engine with better performance, plus the new tools, I was excited to get the new software, even though Luminar AI doesn't have layers. Not even a full year later, they announce Neo, which, again, they said was a new engine built from the ground up, but this time also has layers. If I knew this was in the works, I would have skipped Luminar AI. And I hate that they don't give upgrades from previous versions, only discounts for owners of previous versions. Which means I will own licenses for 2 obsolete versions of software, that will never get used again for the rest of my life. Actually, they did that with Aurora HDR, too, so I actually have 2 more licenses for more obsolete software. It's just so weird that they did it that way, so now all of us Skylum customers just have a list of dead software in our libraries. All my other editing and art applications let you pay a discounted fee to just turn your existing license into the latest version.
Also, I saw you were testing the responsiveness of Neo with the before/after view, but for me, that has always been really snappy. What is really bad for me in Luminar AI was the individual tool before/after view. It takes soooo long to render, that's it's hard to really tell how much or what has changed. I like to scan my image closely while going back and forth between views of the specific tool I'm using to really see the subtle changes, but when it takes 5-10 seconds for the changes to render, i can't get that mental side-by-side image, you know what I mean?
Well, I'm hoping Neo really does have performance gains, because as much as I like what Luminar AI does, it runs quite poorly on my PC. There's really no reason my gaming laptop can't handle a photo editor. Intel i9, RTX 2060, 32gb RAM, 1tb SSD + 64gb Intel Optane.
Well, I guess I'll find out in February! Already preordered last month!
Its their way to get us into subscription model, but then if I have to subscribe then I might well go with the photoshop family
Does it work well with M1 Mac Air? I think A.I. currently bridges with Rosetta? Mine is ok but crashes every other day. As a photographer/graphic artist, Neo with the Layers functionality would go a long way…
Can't say I'm afraid as ours is just a 2019 MBP. Cheers.
I believe there is a compression promblem with luminer most of the photos get pixel after edit
hi and thanks for this video... Unfortunately, the link you provide to upgrade or pay Luminar neo, are not working. Impossible to pay. Could you verify please ? Thanks
now i am in a good mood
Well, based on this video I'll stick with what I have. New s/w for more money is worse that updated s/w for a set price every month from Adobe.
Is it better than photodiretor?
Is there batch editing?
Can you remove a person's shadow from an indoor photo with this program?
Still no mouse wheel support?
is this more like a new programm or an upgrade
Can Luminar NEO or Luminar AI be used to process/enhance JPEG? Thanks,
Can you add text on either?
Honestly, I feel they create a new software just to have people buying a new one because they were claiming their software was "free forever". I would prefer them to be honest a say the price is for this year version and then next year you have to upgrade.
I'm a bit lost on which one I should buy if I've neither luminar neo/ai.
I really hate monthly subs. The upgrade price is not bad though but they could have added at least 200-300 assets IDK.
Super
Why is LUMINAR NEO not on setapp
it changes the color of the modern building in the background and it removes the cross on the church.
I noticed that too - the bluish tint on the building disappeared and the Cross was gone but the top of it remained. I think that you can restore it - but what will that do to the power line in the same area? I also noticed that some of the wire supports remained.
I wonder if they can do this function with a chain link fence.
My Luminar NEO its VERY SLOW and I have a nive setup (Samsung Odyssey 2 Gamer with NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX2060, Intel core i7, 1TB HD+512GB SSD). I took several minutes to copy presets from one img to the other.
Did Luminar Neo get rid of the clone stamp tool? i cant find it. that's my bread and butter hehe
It looks like they could've just added a few new features to luminar ai and renamed it.. Why not just enhance luminar Ai?
Luminat Ai is cool, useful but slow. I hope neo will be better. For now neo seems to be what Ai wanted to be. Just years and money later.
i don't use AI but great video ma man
I have Luminar AI and there's nothing in Neo that would make me feel like I need to upgrade, maybe the final version will have other features but power line and dust removal isn't enough to convince me, thanks for the video S&A 👍
I love Luminar AI but I got in early and upgraded to Luminar Neo for the small fee, for me I want the thing missing from AI and that is the ability to apply each tool more than once to an image. Local masking does a lot but layers will remove the final restrictions
@@worldfromtheair what's the price for AI users?
I got in really early and upgraded back in October for just £26 ($34). I would guess that has gone up now though
@@worldfromtheair and it has ALL the functionality of AI and obviously the new stuff?
I don't know, I know about as much about it as anyone else, this video and other recent ones is the first time we've seen it. It does look like very similar to AI though
"upgrade from Luminar AI to Neo"?! What?! In TWO of the Bundles, you get Luminar AI and Neo!
What is he talking about?! HELP!
I've paid for Luminar AI. If I'm truly in the 'ecosystem' then 'eco' my copy of AI with an update to Neo, but don't expect me to pay twice. You've just alienated one ex customer with more sense than money.
As a Capture One user i just got NEO and its slow VS C1 and missing so many things. It has some great features but it is super slow to do a editing job from say a wedding. I can not use it like this. I am on a Mac Mini M1 a very fasy system and i have many different photo and video edit programs and this one NEO is by far the slowest one. Exporting is very very slow taking around 40 to 60 second for each image with only a few thinsg applyed to it. In the video you keep saying how fast it is i guess you never used most every other editing program as they are faster much faster. I edit thousands of images every week from jobs we shoot NEO is just to slow and lacking things that are needed to work well for everyday editing. For editing one image spending a lot of time on it is has great features but for most things i can do all this in C1 much faster.
seems like there is still no gpu acceleration.
Is the logo in the upper left corner seriously going to blink all the time? Have these guys ever even heard of UI design, or is it just their narcissism overshadowing their sense of reason?
Disappointed by Neo, handling is awful, missing the histogram etc. Gonna stick to Luminar 4, much more comfortable to use.
I'll never buy another product from Skylum. Same old song, make a product and abandon it after a year. Bought luminar 4 and was less than impressed. Tried Ai and still nothing special and they have already abandoned it as well. Compatibility updates don't count.
Luminair AI imo was better faster than Neo has been
I cant stand this one slider magic thing in luminar. I want to have complete control about anything i do. I want to know why something happens and how. I work a lot with curves and use advanced techniques, i dont do out of the box edits and everything i do is unique .Luminar makes people all do the same edits.
Luminar has curves
I have AI and am disappointed with the SKY filter...VERY WEAK! I want more sunsets and sunrises. The ones they have...BLAH...
Luminar AI is too slow.... NEO is a lot quicker, but doesn't do batch processing...
I have AI and there's no need to purchase Neo, so I'll wait for next year when they drop a new software yet again. 😂 The money machine they are.
Ugh... ANOTHER Skylum software??? Forget Skylum. Skylum is basically synonymous with abandonware at this point.
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Luminar is effectively running on yearly updates of the same thing. They say it's a completely new product but it's not. I also don't like the results coming out of Luminar AI. So I won't buy this one.