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- LA PINE, Oregon - Most folks in eastern Oregon will tell you there are really two Oregons: a mostly liberal western Oregon and mostly conservative eastern Oregon. These two regions are separated by much more than the majestic Cascade Mountain range.
Western Oregon is dominated by Portland, an urban bastion of progressive policy that prides itself on being "weird." Portland is also plagued by epidemic levels of crime, drug abuse, homelessness, and mental illness.
Because of its large population, Portland drives state politics. Portland's leaders have become state leaders and Portland's progressive policies have become state policies. That's resulted in drug legalization, gun control, and other progressive laws being forced on the very conservative communities of rural, eastern Oregon.
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I live in Brownsville Oregon, believe me ,you are not the only people that are not happy! Portland is like an infection! Look who our Governor is!? She won't listen. She does not have your views. It's very frustrating, my husband and I wanted to retire here, but we are rethinking this idea.
Because soros runs these immoral female governors
Blue states with higher taxes are not good places to retire.
My wife and I are selling our Los Angeles home and moving to ???
She us a B.....
And that’s why I left California!
Same in Washington...
I am with you there.
@@michaelsmith2733 Eastern Washington isn't a bad place to live, nor are some places on the coast.
If that fails, then petition for a separate state.
Which would also almost certainly fail
Even harder. moving borders is much easier than founding a state.
I have been having difficulties with my marriage for sometimes now but with the help of this Sorceress, I have been able to put my marriage back together.
@caseymuller3480 Her name is Luana Kae Branigan.
Sorcerey will not work in a relationship.
I live in Idaho and I am for this. I believe it would benefit all of us.
Did you graduate?
I live in Idaho and I'm against this.
You must live in liberal Boise. I don't and I want to keep Idaho as it is now.
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u I don’t live in Boise. Infact I live on the east side of Idaho and I don’t like what Boise does to our state so I can only imagine what the people of Oregon feel when Portland dictates to them what they should do.
@@pizzacat1246 If Oregon does that and you think it's a good idea, then why not start a movement move SW Idaho into Oregon?. I'd be for that. I'm in the north central part of the state., 5 driving hours from Boise.
Washington state has the same problem. Seattle, Pierce and King counties and the cesspool that is Olympia are killing the state.
So True.
Yep many states smh like NC the state is majority red besides the cesspools in blue cities like charlotte & Fayetteville and Durham.. it’s crazy when you look at these states and see all the red and a few blue botches which can ruin everything bc it isn’t like it use to be where you had democrats and republicans bc now it’s basically left vs right with the left being very radical and extreme with craziness that makes you wonder what happened to our beautiful country and then you got the right which is loving family folks that work hard for their stuff and believe in god and their rights that our country gave us
Yes! We in Eastern WA would love this for our state, too.
But the Spokane Metro area has over 450,000 people. Add that to Yakima's population, Wenatchee, Walla Walla. Pullman, and Moses Lake and you have a much bigger population than eastern Oregon.
Not much more than Boise is killing rural Idaho. Boise wants the move. Think!!!!!! Why would Boise and CDA be in favor of the move and not rural Idaho. Surely you people are smart enough to figure that out.
This is the best solution to keep America united ironically.
I mean yea but like this would just start a massive reshuffling of the entire map of America because if one state gets away with it the rest of the states will do it
It’s the political equivalent of a spoiled kid grabbing his ball and storming off the playground while shouting he’s not going to play with you anymore
By destroying Idaho?? Hardly!
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u Destroying idaho? That's a stupid thought. Land is extremely valuable.
How does Idaho come out ahead by having more Oregon desert land and having to build more infrastructure to make eastern Oregon more livable? Idaho used to be just conservative, but now more move-ins seem to be Conservative Christian Nationalists like most who are in north Idaho. We need less hate not more. And with a much bigger state and more move to Idaho advertising we will get more hate. When I moved to Idaho from Washington, I sold my place there and moved. I didn't start a movement to have Idaho expanded into what I didn't like in Washington. Oregonians can sell their land and just move here, like I did. I left a Washington island because of the changes Californians brought in but that same kind of change is what will destroy the Idaho I love.
I’m from Italy and my dream is to live in the Cascades, but I’ve always been hesitant on whether or not moving there because everyone says Oregon is a liberal hell, but if this happens and Idaho will annex sone parts of Oregon I’ll be happy to move there
Go to Oregon. Idaho only gains conservative votes, but not good land.
Why do you hate iDAHO so much that you are willing to bring your mess to us?
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u blud I just want to live a simple life in a simple place away from mad people, I don’t want to bring any mess anywhere no need to worry
@@MooseMeese101Just move yourself and not half your state. 30 years ago, I didn't like it in the Washington Coast so I sold out and moved to Idaho. I didn't join a movement to try to get Washington to be part of Canada or Idaho. Why can't you do that? I'm not fond of the rise of conservative Christian nationalism in North Idaho, but as long as that faction doesn't come to where I live, I'm OK. I'm neither a Christian or a conservative, but so far I can be left alone in Idaho.
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u well I’m from Italy, I’m not from Oregon, I was just saying that since I like the nature but I don’t like the liberals of Oregon it would be perfect for me if Idaho would take in a part of Oregon so I’d get the best of both worlds if I moved there, it was just a thought
😂I would sell and leave SoCal for Bigfoot country.
If grater Idaho happens I might move there, a conservative state in the cascades would be awesome
Property value would definitely increase.
Where in Idaho do you think you could live?
Old timers here don't like west coast conservatism. It isn't like what we had originally. But the same thing happened in Washington. Californians moved in and brought their culture with them.. A few hours ago in our local grocery store, that was the sentiment I heard from a lady in her 40's I guess. And then I talked to a lady, who family was at the center of the conservative movement here in the 80's and 90's and she felt the same way. I graduated from high school in Friday Harbor, Washington, in the early 60's and it was very similar then to Idaho in the early 90's --2015. So when you say you want conservatism, define your terms. At the rate things are changing, Our county should soon require a permit to build.
"Come out from among them and be ye separate."
"Touch not the unclean thing"... "a man's enemies shall be those of his own household"... This has been going on for many years.
May God be your shield and give you wisdom.
Which god?
please don't change the borders and just fight for your own state who's to say that Idaho's going to stay red forever
I'm an independent living in Idaho. I'm neither red nor blue.
If Idaho turns blue the country is over.
@@77Avadon77 When I moved Idaho 31 years ago it was conservative, but now it is California conservative. Not good!
Same can be said for the state of Washington. Left on the west right on the east. They should become a separate state as well.
It's actually similar to CA too . . . coastal areas much more left leaning than a lot of other areas.
Actually it's the cities along the I-5 Corridor that are Lefty-loosy, and parts of Jeffco.
I hope and pray it happens because then there is a chance for Washington to do the same.
There is! You and Matt Shea can move to Idaho. boom.
What will you will all those immigrants in the Yakima Valley and around Wenatchee? And many are illegal. How can you be a conservative part of Idaho and keep them there?
Sound good not a problem Can you blame the people that are you know from church and conservative didn’t want to be around all that rowdy crazy nonsense that the other people are trying to shove down their throat makes sense
I like your complete lack of English!
@@robforrester3727 I could understand it too well, either.
Why join Idaho? Why not form their own state?
They’d be greatly dependent on federal money to survive. Well, there’s a lot of states out there already who get a big, big chunk of their revenue from the federal government.
It keeps down administrative and reorganization costs to join Idaho.
@@b_uppyNo it doesn't. It just shifts the burden of the amount of land mass and number of people being subjugated to another entity which will expand it's financial requirements to accommodate the increase. Oregon is experiencing the same injustice as Washington and California. It's the same injustice experienced by the original colonies. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
@@GSmith-dv8dm
Idaho gets by on a lot less because it's politicians tend to believe in less centralized government. It would be a huge savings for certain Washington, Oregon, and California county's taxpayers if they switched. They don't get the same services and state investment/funding that Portland, Seattle and San Francisco, LA, the state capitols, and a few other key cities get...
Congratulations,great for the good people.
Doesn't help me any. Well I guess I get higher taxes.
Oregon should not give up half the state for nothing. Wonder what a fair price would be to sell this land to Idaho?
Rural Idaho doesn't not want Oregon. Only the power brokers in Boise do.
From Klamath County, this can’t happen fast enough!!! Support Greater Idaho it is Eastern Oregons only shot at life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!!
I live on the oregon border to Idaho. Idahos personality sucks. I don't want to become part of Idaho. We should become our own state. Smh
Some years ago I was so proud of Montana; the state legislature approved thousands of dollars to investigate the possibilities of breaking away from the USA and forming their own nation; a nation of INDEPENDENCE, separate and apart from so much of a stench that our country is so quickly becoming. But as I see it; no rush is needed, just preparation, for it will soon collapse of it's own weight. May God be a shield to the upright of spirit.
@@jamesmaxwell9289 Amen 🙏
Just like all the rest of us would be just fine with Klamath becoming anyone else's problem.
@@robforrester3727 I sure would love to give all the drug and homeless issues of western Oregon to someone else along with all the other problems! So it is a win win for both 👍
I live in Idaho the panhandle is so liberal it’s sickening. We welcome you Oregon!
Where in the Panhandle to you find liberals???
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u Coure d Alene, standpoint, Lewiston. It’s bleeding up from Boise.
@@monajohnson5538 Is there anything wrong with being a liberal? Do republicans hate them because they want rights for Blacks or LGBTQ? Or because they don't like Trump?
The Panhandle sure doesn't seem liberal to me. Haw many liberal Idaho counties have you seen where a citizen slaps a noose in from of county commissioners and says, "We don't want building permits."? Do you want the Panhandle to be like Germany was in the 30's?
@@monajohnson5538 Yah it's really sad what washingtonians have done to Coure D Alene
This would be a dream come true! I hope this becomes fact for all of you in eastern Oregon. From a suffering sister in the East Bay, California, and God Bless!
It'll destroy Idaho but who cares? right?
Move to Montana. They have lots of room. We don't.
Think parts of both Eastern and Western Washington will join greater Idaho. Coastal access would give more economic power.
Hey: what if we decide to deny you any sort of coastal access?
@@robforrester3727
Lol.
@@b_uppy The buppys of the world say "lol."
Goes to show that they really haven't thought about this.
LMFAO.
I guess you do know that Idaho already has a seaport?
A few minutes ago, while watching C-Span on a show about separation of church and state, a lady phoned in and said that she moved from Florida to Oregon because of the politics--the lack of separation of church and state in Florida. Now in all states we should have a separation of church and state. The Bible doesn't say we need to separate but the Constitution does. Do you want Idaho to be separate in that instance like Oregon? And if so will you try to get the capital of Greater Idaho to have the state join with the Christian church. There were callers asking about Christian nationalism and what it meant.
Father God, let this happen for Greater Idaho 🙏
Heck NO!!! We need to form our own state.
Yerss. And blerribity herribity fer Big Feller Simplot yer.
You Father god has nothing to do with my state of Idaho.
Greater Idaho is a scam, pushed by disinformation from the guy who sold out Trump in GA.
The Carolina's were initially a state named "Carolana", however due to disputes in government politics, they divided into North Carolina and South Carolina. This precedence was set in the past, the people spoke and a change was made, I see no reason why Greater Idaho or Idagon should become a reality.
Here in idaho I welcome you oregon.
I don't.
YOou must be another Boise scum.
@@user-sk7zc1fc5uNobody cares
Idaho is a great place to live but is it any better than other coastal states? In order to not have to pay sales tax on food, when I go to my local Costco, I get to drive 80 miles on not-so-great roads to go to Washington so I can pay less. Land prices. I have a couple of former resident friends in Washington who waned to move to where? Why "free" Idaho of course, but with the number of wealthy people moving here, real estate is higher here than a middle class family from Washington, can afford. They both gave it up and are remaining in Washington.
So is Idaho becoming a haven for the wealthy? I live on 10 acres in a pole building and that was because 30 years ago, land was cheap. But now, what do you think happens to taxes when the wealthy move in and build beautiful homes? Ten years ago my place was assessed at $60 thousand. A house near me was sold for a very large price to a former resident of LaPine, Oregon wanting to get away from rapid growth in Oregon and living in our "free" state, and other what I call wealthy folks--people who own new fancy diesel pickups and and new fifth wheels and four-wheelers on their manicured lawns, continued to move here. This year my land was assessed at over $200 thousand and I did very little work on it those past 10 years, adding outbuildings built out of scrounged building materials. I am lower middle class. Now so far our senior tax discounts helps , but taxes in our county are definitely on the rise. And that Social Security never keeps up with inflation. So why am I not thrilled with the move-in movement???
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u people in Washington, Oregon and northern California don't want crime rides drug addicts and want to raise a family. Money cannot buy these things . I am an electrician and also middle class. The wealthiest of idaho homeowners and landowners don't live here. Just vacation here.
If this happens will move to Idaho
Why don't you just move now?
Oregon has always been 2 states. Back before whites came, the Cascades divided nations. Why not join with East Washington to make a new state?
Although I live thousands of miles east of Idaho, specifically in Connecticut, I think that the Greater Idaho effort is a good idea! And as a FORMER resident of New York State, NYS would greatly help itself by following the Greater Idaho lead by seceding from new york city. the devil's workshop!!!
I think it is a horrible idea but people from another state don't care about rural Idaho.
Can't happen fast anough I pray it happens those parts of former Oregon gain more Rights overnight and Idaho gain's 60-80 million in taxes win win for red blooded true Americans.. Oregon let's drag queen's and drag show's in there public schools but most those same school's won't let a Minister or a fire cheif in or Police Chief to read to the students do to Portland and Salem running the show ..
You looked up the laws in Idaho? GI is a rights grab.
What is a red-blooded true American? Yesterday I sent off a letter to the editor of our local paper titled, "I am an American", saying that I as an American don't care whether a person has some term red, blue or purple. These are just terms to divide our country and push for a civil war, which seems to be pushed more by conservatives than liberals. That's because the conservatives have most of the guns.
"I disagree with divorce, but it happens." Man, if you just applied that logic to abortion, people doing drugs, or people doing things you don't like, you might be onto something there, buddy.
JUST LIKE WASHINGTON !!!
Eastern Washington isn't like eastern Oregon. Oregon doesn't bring a lot of money to the table like eastern Washington. A lot of industry is in eastern Washington. I lived in the Yakima Valley for 3 years and went to WSU in Pullman and CWU in Ellensburg, and taught school in Roosevelt, on the Columbia River, and geography was my minor so I know a bit about Eastern Washington productivity.
Idaho can have them. Portland is tired of paying for their drug treatment programs and welfare payments anyway.
well, ain't that stupid.
It is the idiologies and politics of Portland inhabitants at the expense of rural Oregon communities that has created the plight and despair of rural inhabitants, just as the metro areas of Washington and California have caused the despair of their rural inhabitants by depriveing them of the ability to earn a living through agriculture, mining, and other means that provide the resources for metro inhabitants to exist. Unneccessary and overreaching regulations like restricting water necessary for crops to grow under the guise of protecting some minor aquatic species, imposing prohibitive regulations on the production of fossil fuels that increase the cost of production and distribution, mandating shifts in transportation mechanisms that impose unsustainable demands on infrastructure, all so the inhabitants of metropolitan communities can feel self righteous about accomplishing some fictitious goal. This is the same arrogant self ritiousness imposed by european settlers on native american inhabitants. Is there any reason they shouldn't have been rebellious?
I have family in Douglas county, I don't think this county is included with this initiative but they sure wish they are. They are very unhappy about what is happening in this beautiful state.
They voted no. Same with very conservative Josephine County.
@@wowzers5172
May they change their minds.
Just look at the end result of what they've done to California, a co"m5mun4ist disaster in preparation for the An7tichr9ist.
Yep. You guys were the idiots who couldn't even find it in you to fund your library system. Yer famous!
then they should move to Boise
Everyone share it on Twitter
Glory to the expansion. Glory to Ellah. Glory to the hero's who lead the charge for what's right.
And the award for unhinged religious rant of the day goes to…
Better to fire all the crooks from Salem and Portland metro !
And the ones in Boise?
can't get rid of them when all the left in multnomah love them.
And the crooks in Boise and CDA.
If you are smart enough to be able to read a map, you might be able to see why many rural Idahoans are not thrilled with the move. I get the idea that eastern Oregonians don't have map reading skills.
quit asking.
This video is not accurate. They keep comparing east and west. The real problem is northern.
I would love being able to go back to the coast or redwoods but still be in idaho
Why doesn't eastern just join eastern Washington?
Idaho has never moved on the federal minimum wage. Many of those who would want to vote for this will take a $5.95 an hour pay cut to move the state line. I do not see this ever happening.
Fair point
There are benefits to a lower minimum wage, especially for low skilled people. You can look up Thomas sowell to find out more.
@@stadler72 Benefits to people getting paid less? Is this kind of like the people who say smoking has a few health benefits?
@@mattalley4330 no. The argument is that minimum wage does more harm than good to an economy. It's because the choice to pay people more affects more than just those people. It has wider effects on the economy.
For one, a low skilled worker can't get a job where there is a minimum wage unless the value he produces is at least minimum wage. So young people who could show up and sweep floors and learn a valuable job skill don't have that opportunity unless the value of sweeping floors at least meets minimum wage.
The fact that this is new information to you just speaks to the poor state of education in this country.
why should there be a min wage at all. If the pay is too low don't consent. What if I wanted to pay you $3.00/hr to watch my goldfish for 12hrs. That would technically be illegal and yet more than fair.
Curiously, La Pine is *also* plagued by drug addiction, homelessness and idiocy.
We don't need any more addiction in Idaho!!!
And LaPine is where the Greater Idaho website is funded. So there's that.
Idaho has already been invaded...stay out we don't want Oregon people
I agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My only objection is that my county may not be included. I would love to be part of Idaho.
We don't want you. Leave us alone.
@@user-sk7zc1fc5u Yes, because I follow Christ. But TRULY, a time is coming when the followers of Christ will be removed from your presence; and you'll deal with Islam and whatever is Left.
And it won't matter where you live.
@@KingdomOfHeavenPictures But this nation is not a Christian country, thankfully, and will not be until the Supreme Court changes the Constitution so that the name of Jesus is found among its pages. Now Islam is growing, not so much in our country, as in the world. But in America, our birth rate is way down and Muslims have more children per family and by the year 2100, according to PEW Research, there will be more Muslims in the world than Christians. As of 2024, the number of Christians in this country is 64%, down from 90% in 1976. But by far the fastest growing group is the "nones" at 30% of Americans, and are the third largest demographic group, in the world, currently ahead of Hinduism. I am one of the 96 million "nones" in this country. And I don't believe in the "Rapture" a term that is not found in the Bible. You can rationalize about "The one left in the field," phrasing but that is only rationalizing. I wish Christians read their holy book so I could debate more of them.
Leave Ontario out of the equation and then we can talk!
Yeah, Idaho is going to make your cannabis store illegal, and go after all your local users.
My neighbors think they're secretly puffing-out and probably are Ontario customers!@@kcbowman4042
Exactly the same in Washington. Eastern Washington wants out.
I 'm too old to move from what has become a government controlled state, and I live in the Idaho Panhandle.
I hope it happens
If YOU don't like Oregon, YOU move to Idaho. Don't drag me with you. I've got my heels dug in in Malheur County. Just admit it ... what you really don't like is democracy. Majority rules.
And what effect will Project 2025 have on this movement?
If you don't like being part of Oregon, then act like an adult and move to Idaho, where I"m sure you'll be very happy. If you don't like it here, we don't want you here.
*If you don't like Portland
There, fixed it for ya 🤠
@@soundcheck2k7Portland = Oregon
There fix it for you 🤭
@@Ag7isheree Portland = 💩
If you don't like eastern Oregon, let them go. Act like an adult and allow people to self determine. Slaveholding is a thing of the past.
I agree!!
You have trouble with Portland because they have different politics. What do you think we rural areas in Idaho have with Boise. 45% of the people in Idaho live in the 470,000 population Boise Metro area. I keep hearing how all of Idaho wants this Oregon move, but this voice you hear mostly comes from liberal Boise. Why don't you talk to conservatives rather than the liberals in Boise?????
Thank you for sharing your feedback.
I do not want to become part of idaho. (Spend a week there and you would understand) We need to form a new state.
Eastern Oregon becoming a state? Only about 150k people would live there
@@mattalley4330 Part of eastern california and eastern washington also are in this greater idaho deal. More people would join this new state.
@@CindyF1 That’s a maybe followed by a big if
@@mattalley4330 I like dreaming. Lol
@@CindyF1 lol nothing wrong with that 😉
Civil disobedience only works when results are important.
Hallelujah God, help me buy a house. Shalom
Maybe God has the power to help you post a relevant comment?
Please join the Greater Blue Movement, including Oregon
Feel like your opinion and vote doesn't matter? Perhaps you dislike someone's beliefs being applied to your well being and your lifestyle?
Maybe you want to live in a State that still believes in Democracy and our constitution?
Here is something Red States don't want you to know.
Blue States have plenty reasons over Red States like Idaho.
Historically people in Blue States live longer, have better higher education degree's, have their vote counted with less gerrymandering and less voter suppression.
Blue States have lower rates of cancer, lower heart disease, lower obesity and better health overall.
Children in Blue States are less likely to be killed by gun violence.
Blue states care about the environment and the impact longer term.
People living in Blue States have more access to healthcare, more food resources and have far more personal freedom protections and rights including worker rights and civil liberties.
People in Blue States have better wages.
No place is perfect. But I pick Blue and maybe you should also.
CA is left in big cities only.Maybe we can build great big walls.
Good luck
Civil Disobedence sounds reasonable to me! Actually, Outright Rebellion would be more appropriate! Defiance of Authority is formed at the very core of the American Character and Spirit! Self Determination lies with the people!
Well, I look forward to arresting you then!
That you desire to see blood spilled over this speaks more to your morality, or lack thereof, than anything else
Dreamers only dream
🙏🏼👍
Lol 😆
Maybe a solution to satisfy both parities is to create a Portland level city in eastern Oregon so that the state can become more balanced politically
Never happening
WE in Idaho don't want your problems. Why can't we just be left alone? If you want to be in Idaho, then move yourself here. Don't move the border. I left Washington because people came in from another state and brought their problems with them, just like Eastern Oregonians want to do to us.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Oregon, Chicago, Atlanta and many more cities have too much political influence on the rest of the otherwise good state.
Hi racist!
Move to Idaho rather than asking it to move to you, cry baby conservatives that don't wanna be near democrats. How about this, let's just split the nation into 2 states, one will be the conservative state of trumptopia, the other is the democratic state of obamaland. Better yet, lets disband into 2 seperate countries since the 2 can't get along.
Lol not gonna happen
Yea lol as much as some may want it to happen Portland would NEVER let it happen because this move happened would mean their state would go bankrupt and collapse they would lose pretty much all of their farmland as a state and wouldn't be able to feed themselves
If it came to it portland would sooner send tanks into Eastern Oregon then surrender that territory
Becoming a parasite of Idaho just because you don’t get enough votes is an idiotic idea I hope it doesn’t happen.
That last statement is the reason you will fail.
Sub-prime mover over prime mover will win!
Are you talking about the comment; "God is in control."
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay If God is in control then if people do something against what is happening then they are going against gad.
The whole premises is flawed and damned.
It's unfortunate but acting is needed sometimes.
CBN is not your friend!
@@taboovsknowledge1603
God IS in control
If something is happening, that's up to God.
If some people do something against something happening, that is up to God.
And if those people succeed or not in stopping something from happening, that is also up to God.
@@Computer-User Anything goes"? Seems a little like there is no God by those rules.
Should not be allowed, borders are set !