CONFIRMATION, PLEASE READ: So, I've had a fair few comments saying that with Traveller's Tales being based in the UK, the game's original aim was for PAL and that it's actually NTSC speeding it up (rather than being made for NTSC and then PAL dragging it down). After asking Jon Burton via Twitter, he has now confirmed that this is NOT the case and it was always intended for NTSC. Source: twitter.com/JonTt/status/1341105836832092160?s=19
Richard Jacques is so criminally underrated! You should check out his Metropolis Street Racer OST cause there is TONS of more songs like those in there.
At first I was like "Wow, JP cover is already having Adventure style, is that a little tease??" and then release date arrived and just explained everything
@Danny Sweeney Yeah total opposite of ''The Terminator'' by Probe Software UK who actually forgot to optimise the game for 60Hz resulting in really fast music. The LinKueiBR/DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL hack actually optimises the audio for 60Hz rather than 50Hz so the music matches the 50Hz speed.
@@Oysterblade84 from rhs: CONFIRMATION, PLEASE READ: So, I've had a fair few comments saying that with Traveller's Tales being based in the UK, the game's original aim was for PAL and that it's actually NTSC speeding it up (rather than being made for NTSC and then PAL dragging it down). After asking Jon Burton via Twitter, he has now confirmed that this is NOT the case and it was always intended for NTSC. Source: twitter.com/JonTt/status/1341105836832092160?s=19
It looks like you got 50k at just the right time, making this a Christmas gift for all of your fans! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year RedHotSonic!
i will always have a soft spot for my 2nd sonic game ever even if it's not perfect. But i love the saturn version of this game! (especially the music) congrats on 50k red!
9:34 - I just want to take a moment to appreciate the way that you're fighting that boss. The Cool Way, that is. Good stuff. Also, I'm among the (smaller?) crowd that loved this game as a young one and still kind of do.
It sounded kinda good when you mixed the 1st stage theme with the 50hz and 60hz. Had someone actually decided to do a mashup, I feel like it could have come out really nicely.
Red, huge congratulations on 50k subscribers. Also, remember the "Does it work on Real Hardware" series? Those were good! Rewatched the whole series three times!!
I actually expected the Saturn to fix some of the slowness on the PAL Mega Drive. I was searching for a certain Sonic track I was going to use n a future video, and found the song for the special stages of S3DB. What a banger!
It’s really surprising that they didn’t optimise it properly, but it doesn’t bother me really because I mostly play the PAL version and it feels almost too fast already, it must be crazy hard to control in the 60hz version. It feels very natural to me at 50hz, quite slippery and speedy, but once you get used to it it’s not that bad.
I've always played the NTSC version and I'd still say Sonic is very controllable. DX improves it obviously but I always still had a great time with the original. Honestly I think the aversion to the game (especially in the US) may have to do with our audience's general unfamiliarity with isometric platformers, whereas Europe had plenty of them!
Congrats on getting 50k subscribers! 3D is a meh game for me, I grew up with the Genesis version and have more nostalgia for it’s soundtrack. It’s certainly not the worst Sonic game I’ve played. Sik’s no flickies hack is my personal favorite way to play the game.
Not sure if this is a joke, but literally the only difference is that the PAL version supports PAL60, which means it runs in 60Hz and makes use of the higher vertical resolution. Other than that, 60Hz mode in PAL has identical performance to NTSC. There is a 50Hz option in PAL, but this only makes it run in the lower vertical resolution and at 25fps - the game still runs at the same speed, just a bit choppier.
wow. i always wondered why i had almost no trouble controlling sonic as a kid, but lots of trouble controlling sonic on emulators on this game. now i understand why after the explanation of it being easier to control him with 50hz. thank you for clearing that up! that mystery will no longer plague me.
The Japan sonic scares me LOL also Happy 50K and Merry Early Christmas I might not be on TH-cam for a while because I have TH-cam kids this my mom Phone but just know I'm always watching you on my Fire TV stick your so fun to watch!
Ooh, the return of the speed comparison videos, but with an upgraded boost. 6:36 a nice, cheaper alternative, and temporary solution. Some very interesting results from the PAL side of things.
Hey, redhotsonic. It was a coincidence that the Sega Saturn port of Sonic 3D Blast (or Flickies' Island) released in Japan on the same day as the European launch of the Dreamcast on October 14, 1999.
Correct me, if I'm wrong but I believe that on that same day Japan also got Sonic Adventure International, which fixed a few things present in the original Japanese release from December 1998.
2:50 this kinda feels like you're in a long empty hall with the source of the music moving further and further away but staying pretty much the same volume
Fun fact. The 16 Bit US and EU versions of the Sonic 3D ROM are the same. The subtitle that appears depends on the Hz setting: 60Hz = Sonic 3D Blast 50Hz = Sonic 3D Flickies' Island I have been meaning to make a code where you choose which one to load. May go and do that now!
The main gameplay slowdown of the Saturn PAL version isn't surprising. The game was ported to C from the original 68000 assembly almost straight across. Without any timing adjustments, it's likely and almost certainly clear by the footage that it's still tied to framerate.
I've always been into Sonic 3D but not the Genesis or Mega Drive versions because I loved the Saturn soundtrack because the songs were more appeasing than just 8 or 16bit. Once played this on the PC when I was a kid and I would always play it over and over again.
The reason why the Mega Drive/Genesis Version never got released was that the console actually didcontinuted in Japan in Spring 1996. Mahou Monogatari was tha last official in Japan released Mega Drive title.
RE: Load times I have the US and Japanese versions of 3D Blast for Saturn, and the Japanese version loads faster than the US version. I wonder if load times were improved for the PAL and japanese releases... Also, always been a fan of 3D Blast, got it on launch day for the Genesis, never had a problem playing it like so many people have complained.
The reason why the game was never released in Japan on the Mega Drive is that the Mega Drive actually discontniuted in Japan at that moment. The last released Mega Drive Game in Japan was Mahou Monogatari. Made by Compile. The same think is with the saturn version. It was only released in Japan because they didnt had a Sonic Game for that console. The thing I wonder, wasnt that game actually devolped to run better on Pal? TT is a britsh studio. You said Jon so I would say you are familiar with his channel? (Gamehut) Like always a great Video :)
I did wonder but I'm not sure if it was made with PAL in mind; going by all my points. I think the slower speed on PAL is just a coincidence because when Jon (GameHut) makes a video relating to Sonic 3D, he's always demonstrating it in NTSC and not once (to my knowledge) has he mentioned about PAL or it being made with PAL in mind. I did contact Jon several months ago and recently again for an interview but unfortunately I never got a reply. Thanks for the info on the missing MD release for Japan. I never thought of that!
@@redhotsonic Yeah youre right I looked again brefly at some of his videos, and it always looks like the NTSC version. Maybe it was a game that was made for the american market. But why they didnt made it with PAL in mind then they are actually a british company. Jon was a little unactive as far I know, maybe thats why he wasnt responding. when you want I could try contacting him. I need to correct my statement with the Saturn doesnt have a Sonic Game. Sonic Jam and R were released on Japan. But as far I know the Japan release of Flickies Island only happend because of not having more Sonic Games for the System. and it was very limited in Japan. As far I know one of the more expensive Sega titles for the console. I am gald that I could helped you with my Info about the missing NTSC-J Version of Sonic 3D on the Mega Drive. Keep on going :) I hope you will reach the 100k as far as possble :)
Yeah, Sega dropped the Mega Drive almost immediately after the Saturn's release. The MD was a pretty massive failure on the domestic market, so they went all in on the Japan-centric marketing/support for the Saturn.
4:32 if RHS doesn't indicate that it was captured on an emulator, I think it's safe to assume that this footage actually proves that it indeed runs on real hardware.
3:45 you can't fool me, it's a pun XD and i give it count that the name it's different before you say it, and i was like "wait, 3D Blast isn't that long" XD ×2
I still wonder why no one has yet made soundtrack swap hacks for Sonic 3D Blast yet… It'd be neat to hear the rest of the game's Genesis soundtrack in the Sonic Adventure style.
i just realized I'm an idiot because when i first saw the menu for sonic 3d blast Saturn when the menu said help meaning a help menu i got real creeped out for a sec
After playing the JP Saturn version on Mednafen, I can confirm that the Panic Puppet music oddity is a regional difference. Not only that, but some zones like Rusty Ruin have had their act 1 & 2 tracks swapped for some bizarre reason. One positive note, however, is that the previously silent Special Stage results screen plays the act clear music in the JP version.
@@redhotsonic Oh, that must have been the wrong zone I was referring to. I could have sworn at least one of the zones had the act 1 & 2 music being swapped. Or was that because of the sound test?
@@redhotsonic I checked, and the PC version doesn't swap over the themes. As for the whole act 1/2 music swap thing, that's probably just how the tracks are listed in the Sound Test. Sorry for jumping to conclusions!
2:02 I think that I know what's happening: As you explained in the Sonic CD video, the FMVs are at the same pace. Perhaps Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis/Mega Drive was going for the same thing here. 7:12 That's because it's CD audio, like with Sonic CD. P.S., maybe you could do Sonic Adventure 50Hz vs 60Hz?
I suspect the FMV was running at 25fps in pal, and 20fps in NTSC. It very much skips frames, to save on storage, and those are the most convenient skips, being 1/2 and 1/3 respectively. (well technically NTSC is running at a hair over 19.99 frames per second because we slightly reduced the refresh rate to cram in color, but close enough)
@@keiyakinsI guess that is probably it, though vblank might be a bit longer relative to the length of a frame on PAL? I'm sure I remember reading something about the actual DMA rate being faster, not just per frame. Something do with that is why Titan Overdrive 2 only works on PAL machines, I think.
Imagine if the Sonic 3, Knuckles and Sonic 3D Blast music were optimized, while the Sonic 1 and 2 music was only optimized... just to play 17% slower instead of at least 8 MHz faster like in the arcade (according to a Sega Genesis VSTi called Chipsynth MD)
Are you ever going to cover the 3D Sonic games on the sixth gen consoles (Adventure 1&2, Heroes, Shadow, possibly Riders and the PS2 version of Unleashed and Zero Gravity)? It's definitely an interesting topic, considering that there's a PAL60 option being added to the mix and apparently not implemented well in some cases, which leads to things like Heroes on PAL Gamecube running too fast on PAL60 or Adventure 2 reading button inputs twice).
I loved this complete comparison series and I hope you make an 8th video in this comparison series for a better ending even though some your channel shows end bad no offence
1:54 It might be sped up as the genesis and old consoles couldn’t really do decimals so they rounded to a whole number. Maybe, not 100% sure but it is my best guess. Also, do people actually think Sonic is too fast in this game? I always thought he was too slow.
![Sonic 3D Blast LOST BITS | Prototypes & Unused Content [TetraBitGaming]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D222P4-KABI/mqdefault.jpg)
CONFIRMATION, PLEASE READ: So, I've had a fair few comments saying that with Traveller's Tales being based in the UK, the game's original aim was for PAL and that it's actually NTSC speeding it up (rather than being made for NTSC and then PAL dragging it down). After asking Jon Burton via Twitter, he has now confirmed that this is NOT the case and it was always intended for NTSC. Source: twitter.com/JonTt/status/1341105836832092160?s=19
I could see why people thought this, but then why do the special stages run faster on pal? What an odd thing to occur.
@@Editor909 Sonic Team did the special stages for the Saturn version. TT did them for the Mega Drive (Genesis) and they're still slower than NTSC.
@@redhotsonic ohh ok. Thanks for the tip :)
NTSC because... I don’t even know because I don’t like slower music it throws me off
@@_mr-needlenose_8218 maybe it wouldn't if you didnt ever hear the faster version.
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You have found the secret 50k subscribers screen
guess you could say everyone "hit" the subscribe button
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Fun is infinite®
Yay!
NO WAY! NO WAY!
Let's just take a moment to appreciate the Saturn port's fantastic music.
Richard Jacques is so criminally underrated!
You should check out his Metropolis Street Racer OST cause there is TONS of more songs like those in there.
I much prefer the genesis soundtrack tbh
The mega drive/ genesis one is farrrrrrrr better than Saturn
@Its Gorb The Octopede! no it’s me too
@@billzee89 Jun Senoue did a great job don't get me wrong. But Richard Jacques's Jazz Fusion is some really amazing stuff
At first I was like "Wow, JP cover is already having Adventure style, is that a little tease??" and then release date arrived and just explained everything
it's bizarre to see that it wasn't fully optimized for 50hz considering it's a british game
@Danny Sweeney Yeah total opposite of ''The Terminator'' by Probe Software UK who actually forgot to optimise the game for 60Hz resulting in really fast music. The LinKueiBR/DUSTINODELLOFFICIAL hack actually optimises the audio for 60Hz rather than 50Hz so the music matches the 50Hz speed.
@@Oysterblade84
from rhs:
CONFIRMATION, PLEASE READ: So, I've had a fair few comments saying that with Traveller's Tales being based in the UK, the game's original aim was for PAL and that it's actually NTSC speeding it up (rather than being made for NTSC and then PAL dragging it down). After asking Jon Burton via Twitter, he has now confirmed that this is NOT the case and it was always intended for NTSC. Source: twitter.com/JonTt/status/1341105836832092160?s=19
It really is weird, you’d think they would’ve corrected it.
2:50
When you play a bad flash game and you click play twice:
Sonic: faster than the speed of sound!
Pal mega drive: pulls out uno reverse card
This game is a real BLAST on 60Hz!
...Anyone?
...I'll see myself out.
Blast,3d blast...
i get it
Every Genesis game is a blast because of blast processing!
@@gertytk5528 :)
Oh I see.......
Sonic Blast
It looks like you got 50k at just the right time, making this a Christmas gift for all of your fans! I wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year RedHotSonic!
i will always have a soft spot for my 2nd sonic game ever even if it's not perfect. But i love the saturn version of this game! (especially the music) congrats on 50k red!
As I recall, the Saturn port was an assembly code port from Genesis to Saturn, so it retaining the Genesis PAL limits makes sense.
9:34 - I just want to take a moment to appreciate the way that you're fighting that boss. The Cool Way, that is. Good stuff.
Also, I'm among the (smaller?) crowd that loved this game as a young one and still kind of do.
It sounded kinda good when you mixed the 1st stage theme with the 50hz and 60hz. Had someone actually decided to do a mashup, I feel like it could have come out really nicely.
Red, huge congratulations on 50k subscribers. Also, remember the "Does it work on Real Hardware" series? Those were good! Rewatched the whole series three times!!
I actually expected the Saturn to fix some of the slowness on the PAL Mega Drive. I was searching for a certain Sonic track I was going to use n a future video, and found the song for the special stages of S3DB. What a banger!
The last time I was this early, TH-cam wasn’t a thing
I’m not joking
628th boissssssssssssssssssss
Hahahahaha
Wow an actual original comment I am shocked
Last time I was early, it was BC
LOL 😂 I
It’s really surprising that they didn’t optimise it properly, but it doesn’t bother me really because I mostly play the PAL version and it feels almost too fast already, it must be crazy hard to control in the 60hz version. It feels very natural to me at 50hz, quite slippery and speedy, but once you get used to it it’s not that bad.
I'm gonna miss this series.
Sup
@@CharlesShow Oh hey! Nice to see you here.
@@ViSat6002 Won't be any different!
Why? Is it gonna go away?
Is the series cancelled now??
The last part about hairstyles got me good lmao
I've always played the NTSC version and I'd still say Sonic is very controllable. DX improves it obviously but I always still had a great time with the original. Honestly I think the aversion to the game (especially in the US) may have to do with our audience's general unfamiliarity with isometric platformers, whereas Europe had plenty of them!
AKA Weird model smiling Sonic vs blue Super Sonic.
My Most requested video! Thank you RHS for uploading this comparison!! 😇🙏🏻😉
Nice to see ya get to 50k subscribers! You absolutely deserved it.
Amazing video RHS! And congratulations for the 50K!!
Sonic and Knuckles 50hz vs. 60hz? I've been waiting for a video for almost seven months!
Very interseting video. Subscribed!
[ 2:50 ] Wouldn’t ya know it, that sounds like my mind throughout my play-through!
MAMA LUIGI??? HAHAHA
Thank you for putting so much effort in this kind of videos
Congrats on getting 50k subscribers! 3D is a meh game for me, I grew up with the Genesis version and have more nostalgia for it’s soundtrack. It’s certainly not the worst Sonic game I’ve played. Sik’s no flickies hack is my personal favorite way to play the game.
THIS WAS AWSOME I LOVE THIS SERIES
So the short series is over. Congrats on the 50k subscribers!
2:50 That was really enjoyable actually, a nice mix.
Segy stratrun meha Dave
congrats for the 50k subs RHS
i watch all your videos and i love them :)
oh and i subscribed like in september
The bare console with the spinning disc and fan looming over t about to fall onto it will haunt me til I die. Thanks, RHS.
So, all Classic Sonic games have been exhausted, outside of a few spinoffs... When's Sonic Adventure: 50Hz vs 60Hz?
Not sure if this is a joke, but literally the only difference is that the PAL version supports PAL60, which means it runs in 60Hz and makes use of the higher vertical resolution. Other than that, 60Hz mode in PAL has identical performance to NTSC.
There is a 50Hz option in PAL, but this only makes it run in the lower vertical resolution and at 25fps - the game still runs at the same speed, just a bit choppier.
dreamcast hardware is optimized for 50hz so it runs at same speed
wow. i always wondered why i had almost no trouble controlling sonic as a kid, but lots of trouble controlling sonic on emulators on this game. now i understand why after the explanation of it being easier to control him with 50hz. thank you for clearing that up! that mystery will no longer plague me.
Man sonic 3d on the Saturn had such a dope soundtrack.
Congrats on 50k! :)
Idk what else to put here so have a good day and stay safe :)
The Japan sonic scares me LOL also Happy 50K and Merry Early Christmas I might not be on TH-cam for a while because I have TH-cam kids this my mom Phone but just know I'm always watching you on my Fire TV stick your so fun to watch!
Congrats on 50K here's to more annoyance from m- I mean 100K subs yeah that's what I meant 🤞😂
Ooh, the return of the speed comparison videos, but with an upgraded boost.
6:36 a nice, cheaper alternative, and temporary solution.
Some very interesting results from the PAL side of things.
Technically you can make your own Japanese copy. Jon made Japanese scans for the Diretor's Cut for both box and cart.
0:20 Wait where's my Japanese copy
Why the japanesse dont exist?
The reason this the tracks on the Saturn version is the same speed is the fact of Redbook Audio use, the same applies to Sonic CD's non PCM tracks.
Congrats RedHotSonic You Deserve it your Amazing
0:20 im cant stop laughing on america design
So... Sonic Adventure 50hz Vs 60hz? Or perhaps spinball? Or mean bean machine? The 8-bit games?
Hey, redhotsonic. It was a coincidence that the Sega Saturn port of Sonic 3D Blast (or Flickies' Island) released in Japan on the same day as the European launch of the Dreamcast on October 14, 1999.
Correct me, if I'm wrong but I believe that on that same day Japan also got Sonic Adventure International, which fixed a few things present in the original Japanese release from December 1998.
I never knew Sonic 3D Blast had a 50hz
@Mihnea Bărbulescu Its a britsh game
All TT games came to the PAL market.
Technically Sonic 3D Blast didn’t, but Sonic 3D Flickies’ Island did!
2:50 this kinda feels like you're in a long empty hall with the source of the music moving further and further away but staying pretty much the same volume
The European boxart for sonic 3D blast looks so cool the black just looks perfect
Do Sonic Spinball! These are so entertaining
Fun fact. The 16 Bit US and EU versions of the Sonic 3D ROM are the same. The subtitle that appears depends on the Hz setting:
60Hz = Sonic 3D Blast
50Hz = Sonic 3D Flickies' Island
I have been meaning to make a code where you choose which one to load. May go and do that now!
I love how the saturn thats compatible with 240V is the one having PSU issues in the UK
They removed Puppet Panic act 1 music why? It was always one of my favourite tracks from this game.
The main gameplay slowdown of the Saturn PAL version isn't surprising. The game was ported to C from the original 68000 assembly almost straight across. Without any timing adjustments, it's likely and almost certainly clear by the footage that it's still tied to framerate.
I've always been into Sonic 3D but not the Genesis or Mega Drive versions because
I loved the Saturn soundtrack because the songs were more appeasing than just 8 or 16bit.
Once played this on the PC when I was a kid and I would always play it over and over again.
The Japanese version of 3D Blast on the Saturn is really damn expensive too, gg for getting it RHS!
Yeah, its one of the last games for the System as far I know,
The Dreamcast was already released in Japan at that moment.
@@paddy844 Yeah, they stopped producing the Saturn in 2000, one of the last games on the System. Tbf it's kinda sad, the Saturn has some great games
@@riseoflion2104 Especially when you look at the Japan only games.
The saturn was a great console.
3D Blast didn't have a passport to Japan.
The reason why the Mega Drive/Genesis Version never got released was that the console actually didcontinuted in Japan in Spring 1996.
Mahou Monogatari was tha last official in Japan released Mega Drive title.
@@paddy844 I know, I was joking, I know video games can't have passports.
What you you think about doing a sonic spinball 50h vs 60h
I like the series but I found a few different things in the PAL and NTSC versions of sonic spinball
Good job on the 50k sub
Never did I think I would see the day this happened?
Huh I thought it was a sonic 3d blast directors cut review but this is still great nice vid rhs.
He already did one
@@Turbulation1he didn't do a review on it.
@@Absi5the well he played it th-cam.com/video/of8F8LD45eU/w-d-xo.html
RE: Load times
I have the US and Japanese versions of 3D Blast for Saturn, and the Japanese version loads faster than the US version. I wonder if load times were improved for the PAL and japanese releases...
Also, always been a fan of 3D Blast, got it on launch day for the Genesis, never had a problem playing it like so many people have complained.
The reason why the game was never released in Japan on the Mega Drive is that the Mega Drive actually discontniuted in Japan at that moment.
The last released Mega Drive Game in Japan was Mahou Monogatari. Made by Compile.
The same think is with the saturn version. It was only released in Japan because they didnt had a Sonic Game for that console.
The thing I wonder, wasnt that game actually devolped to run better on Pal? TT is a britsh studio.
You said Jon so I would say you are familiar with his channel? (Gamehut)
Like always a great Video :)
I did wonder but I'm not sure if it was made with PAL in mind; going by all my points. I think the slower speed on PAL is just a coincidence because when Jon (GameHut) makes a video relating to Sonic 3D, he's always demonstrating it in NTSC and not once (to my knowledge) has he mentioned about PAL or it being made with PAL in mind. I did contact Jon several months ago and recently again for an interview but unfortunately I never got a reply.
Thanks for the info on the missing MD release for Japan. I never thought of that!
@@redhotsonic Yeah youre right
I looked again brefly at some of his videos, and it always looks like the NTSC version. Maybe it was a game that was made for the american market. But why they didnt made it with PAL in mind then they are actually a british company.
Jon was a little unactive as far I know, maybe thats why he wasnt responding. when you want I could try contacting him.
I need to correct my statement with the Saturn doesnt have a Sonic Game. Sonic Jam and R were released on Japan. But as far I know the Japan release of Flickies Island only happend because of not having more Sonic Games for the System. and it was very limited in Japan. As far I know one of the more expensive Sega titles for the console.
I am gald that I could helped you with my Info about the missing NTSC-J Version of Sonic 3D on the Mega Drive.
Keep on going :) I hope you will reach the 100k as far as possble :)
Yeah, Sega dropped the Mega Drive almost immediately after the Saturn's release. The MD was a pretty massive failure on the domestic market, so they went all in on the Japan-centric marketing/support for the Saturn.
We finally have an answer! twitter.com/JonTt/status/1341105836832092160?s=19
Have you considered running Jon 's Director's Cut edition of Sonic 3D? Would love to see a video to see if it works on actual hardware.
4:32 if RHS doesn't indicate that it was captured on an emulator, I think it's safe to assume that this footage actually proves that it indeed runs on real hardware.
0:20
funy
also as an american, we do infact cover you with Sonic 3D Blast (yea we don't call it Flickies' Island)
3:45 you can't fool me, it's a pun XD and i give it count that the name it's different before you say it, and i was like "wait, 3D Blast isn't that long" XD ×2
Glad America (a.k.a me) could hold your back here with there being no Japanese Mega Drive copy
I still wonder why no one has yet made soundtrack swap hacks for Sonic 3D Blast yet… It'd be neat to hear the rest of the game's Genesis soundtrack in the Sonic Adventure style.
If I ever go back to Sonic 3D Blast I'm mainly going to play the saturn version through emulation
Wow this is a cool video I played that this year and I liked the game
Hope you have a good Christmas
i just realized I'm an idiot because when i first saw the menu for sonic 3d blast Saturn when the menu said help meaning a help menu i got real creeped out for a sec
Epic comeback
Woah cool 3D!!! Is amazing
After playing the JP Saturn version on Mednafen, I can confirm that the Panic Puppet music oddity is a regional difference. Not only that, but some zones like Rusty Ruin have had their act 1 & 2 tracks swapped for some bizarre reason. One positive note, however, is that the previously silent Special Stage results screen plays the act clear music in the JP version.
Rust Ruin's music is fine for me on my JP disc. Same with Special Stage clear music. Its just Panic Puppet act 2 being duplicated.
@@redhotsonic Oh, that must have been the wrong zone I was referring to. I could have sworn at least one of the zones had the act 1 & 2 music being swapped. Or was that because of the sound test?
@@stoopidmansidiot I thought the PC version swapped them over for some reason and not the Saturn?
@@redhotsonic I checked, and the PC version doesn't swap over the themes.
As for the whole act 1/2 music swap thing, that's probably just how the tracks are listed in the Sound Test. Sorry for jumping to conclusions!
Me encanta tu canal gracias por los subtítulos en español
Can’t wait to see “Sonic Spinball: 50Hz vs 60Hz” for 60,000 subs.
spoiler alert: they sped up the music but the gameplay is still slow for the pal version
source: i own it
I have both regions for years. But until I am actually able to beat the first level, this video isn't coming anytime soon =P
Man this video sure was a 3D Blast.
2:47
Why does that sound so pleasing
Cool comparison
Ooh, I like the new TV you have there! What model is it, and could you possibly tell me the model of the other one you had?
This new one is the BVM-D24E1WE and my old one was the PVM-20M2MDE :)
50Hz at 1:41 be like "screw this I'm tired of being behind"
Also this is a bop 2:50
Aw man, Sonic 3D Blast except it's even slower? I don't think I'd be able to survive that
As said in the video, seriously, give it a go in PAL. I find it a better experience personally 🙂
2:02 I think that I know what's happening: As you explained in the Sonic CD video, the FMVs are at the same pace. Perhaps Sonic 3D Blast on the Genesis/Mega Drive was going for the same thing here.
7:12 That's because it's CD audio, like with Sonic CD.
P.S., maybe you could do Sonic Adventure 50Hz vs 60Hz?
once i got on this i heard THIS WARPING VISUA-
BRO I KNEW IT WTF!!! I FEEL THE FUTURE
Wait really?! But how about sonic adventure 50 vs 60 hz that's not happening?
Ok
I never understood why sonics shoes were orange in some game gear and genesis games
SMASHING 16.9 CRT BRO!
This gesture at 2x speed is hilarious 3:20
I suspect the FMV was running at 25fps in pal, and 20fps in NTSC. It very much skips frames, to save on storage, and those are the most convenient skips, being 1/2 and 1/3 respectively.
(well technically NTSC is running at a hair over 19.99 frames per second because we slightly reduced the refresh rate to cram in color, but close enough)
DMA works faster on PAL machines as well I think.
@@bangerbangerbro I don't think it does? though it's faster relative to screen refresh, since that happens less frequently.
@@keiyakinsI guess that is probably it, though vblank might be a bit longer relative to the length of a frame on PAL? I'm sure I remember reading something about the actual DMA rate being faster, not just per frame. Something do with that is why Titan Overdrive 2 only works on PAL machines, I think.
sonic 3d's sync fall appears to be more short than sonic 3
Imagine if the Sonic 3, Knuckles and Sonic 3D Blast music were optimized, while the Sonic 1 and 2 music was only optimized... just to play 17% slower instead of at least 8 MHz faster like in the arcade (according to a Sega Genesis VSTi called Chipsynth MD)
Are you ever going to cover the 3D Sonic games on the sixth gen consoles (Adventure 1&2, Heroes, Shadow, possibly Riders and the PS2 version of Unleashed and Zero Gravity)? It's definitely an interesting topic, considering that there's a PAL60 option being added to the mix and apparently not implemented well in some cases, which leads to things like Heroes on PAL Gamecube running too fast on PAL60 or Adventure 2 reading button inputs twice).
I loved this complete comparison series and I hope you make an 8th video in this comparison series for a better ending even though some your channel shows end bad no offence
1:54 It might be sped up as the genesis and old consoles couldn’t really do decimals so they rounded to a whole number. Maybe, not 100% sure but it is my best guess.
Also, do people actually think Sonic is too fast in this game? I always thought he was too slow.
I loved this game too! Played through it on the PC version :]
10:28 Nice spike hair