Wow! my first EDC was a 40 also! and I assumed the recoil was normal. Taught my boys to shoot with it. (One's a Marine and the other is in the Air Force now) and I carry a LCP Max now!
The 40 has a 96% one shot stop percentage in LE shootouts. I switched when the FBI did. I was a gun store clerk back then. One of my regulars was a grizzled US Marshal . We talked calibers and pistols and our gunsmith restocked his beat up old 12 ga. He stocked up on Black Talon 40's and double ought buckshot for an upcoming trip to pick up a fugitive. He said that he carried a .357 before the .40 came out and he liked having 12 rds available when he needed them instead of 6 in his revolver. Works for me too.
@@Nathan-jh1ho There is a book which records officer involved shootings. Marshal is the name of one of the authors. I can't recall more than that. I don't know their methods but it is considered authoritative. A customer of the gun store i worked at brought his copy in for me to borrow. It was after the FBI went to the 40 S&W. This was in the 1990's.
I’m a retired Law Enforcement officer. We carried 9mm for many years and changed over to .40 caliber midway through my career. I reload ammo and own 9mm, .40 caliber and .45 caliber guns. I prefer to carry my Glock 27 in .40 caliber because it gets the job done and it is concealable. Use whatever works for you!
Most be from Texas because in most departments you will be issued a 9mm or 40s&w. On the northeast . You get what they issue. Glock 19 or 17 with 15-1. , Sig p226 or the S&W not sure what model but it’s stainless and double action only with 12 lb triggers .
The Sig P226 is a double-single action. I have the P229 in 40SW and .357 Sig. The P226 and the P229 are double action on the first shot and single action thereafter. FYI, I like the P229 and carry it loaded with .357 Sig. But when I go to the range, I switch out the barrels to 40SW to save a few bucks on ammo. .357 Sig is pretty expensive and harder to get than 40SW. @@tax905972
I don't discriminate, I like all calibers. But I think it's funny how gun owners like to talk down to anyone who carries something different than they do. Just carry whatever is comfortable and accurate for you. 👍🇺🇸
I was a police officer in Salinas, CA for 20 years. I was a CSI for most of my career. I saw the 40 do more damage to both bodies and other objects than either the 9 or 45. Real world experience.
@thedude3219 I agree, im just saying it as a joke "kinda" because theres definitely truth to it. I carry. 40 as well only switch to my hellcat depending on what im wearing.
@@tax905972 what you seem to clearly not understand is, if you have two of the same brand rounds but different calibers, example, winchester 9mm and winchester .40. The bigger round will do more damage. If you ever watch comparison videos, majority of them people will use a completely different branded caliber and use a HP 9mm but a FMJ .40 then try to compare them. Of course the HP will have a bigger hole because you compared it to a FMJ .40.
I was reading all these to replies to see when someone was going to mention the true content of the video and then here we are! We'll done! Now the question really is.... Where do I see more?
I ended up buying a .40 S&W handgun simply for the fact that in my area and within multiple stores .40 S&W ammunition was the only thing on the shelves during the past two ammo shortages. That and the store I was working at was closing that location and we had a huge sale on Everything including firearms. So I ended up with a Beretta APX in .40 S&W for under $250 out the door.
I did the same thing. Got a used Shield 40 cal, for cheap. Ammo was no problem. The recoil wasn't that bad to me. Bought a 9mm + Shield, and carries 2x the ammo in a mag.
I unfortunately live in NY, and round restrictions do have to be considered in these conversations. I can carry a Glock 23 the same dimensions as the 19 the same number of rounds allowed in my state, but a slightly larger caliber. I also throw an aftermarket 9mm conversion barrel in it and shoot 9mm at the range. For those of you that are going to tell me to leave NY and go to a free state my answer is: stop encouraging people to give up the fight in their home states and flee to a politically safe state.
@@commiezombie2477 Upstate New York. There is a huge part of New York state that isn't the city. We still have some freedoms here. And I am sure NY is trying to find a way to remove a certain ex-president, billionaire's CCW permit actually. So yeah not even they can have them probably.
@commiezombie2477 I'm a mechanic in a small city in Central NY. Took me 5 weeks total from safety class to permit. Most of the state is actually quite 2a friendly. NYC and a few other big blue cities ruin it for the rest of us. Edit: no I'm not happy I had to do this. I'm a 2a absolutist, the people should have everything the military has access to.
no offense, but your answer (stop encouraging people to give up the fight in their home states and flee to a politically safe state), i do not see that happening in our life time or like at all.
I totally get you man. I live in California and it's the same thing here, if not a little worse. But it also sounds like it's somewhat the same in that Northern California excluding the largest cities like San Francisco and Sacramento tend to be a little more 2A friendly but the problem is that the state restrictions apply everywhere. As it stands right now I cannot buy the handgun that I want because it is not legal in this state just due to some stupid restrictions that they put on gun manufacturers in order to sell guns here. And to add to your just move out of the state argument, it's just not that simple. You need to find another state, then find a job there and a house. Not to mention leaving all of your friends and family that you have where you live. And yes it would be nice to stay and fight the good fight but California basically no chance of recovery anymore.
I carry a .40 cause it's all I've ever carried for 33 yrs as an LEO. I'm used to it. Now that I'm retired, it's what I carry, cause . . . I'm . . . used . . . . to . . . um, it.
I've always owned .40 S&W from the start and I don't find the recoil difficult. I use 180 gr. JHP, the bottom end of the .45 weight range and just a wee bit bigger than a 9mm. BTW, I was the youngest child and don't have identity issues, at least that's what the voices in my head tell me. (LOL)
@@markh.6687, You tell'um man! By the way if you can both keep it down.. now I have three voices in my head, and only one that I can constantly ignore!
As an airline pilot I served in the Federal Flight Deck Officer program. Our issued duty weapon was an H&K USP Compact in .40 cal. I ended up buying my own personal copy of the H&K USPC 40. It is the gun that I trained with most, and most familiar with. It is my personal carry gun to this day. The .40 is snappy. But that can be managed with training. The 9mm gives you a few more rounds per mag. The FFDO program is transitioning away from .40 to the Glock 19 in 9mm. More of a move to standardize the FFDO's, Air Marshall's and other armed DHS LEO's. As for .45? While I own several, just not something I have ever carried much. Certainly, another very capable round. I think the best caliber is personal choice. What is needed for your mission. And at the end of the day, the best caliber is the caliber that you can reliably put on target. And put in the time to train with and stay proficient! No matter experience level, operating your weapon system, and putting rounds on target is a perishable skill. For all of us! Caliber doesn't matter too much if you cannot put it on target! In a high stress or life threatening situation, with adrenaline flowing we all degrade to the minimum level of our training. ;)
I live in an area with magazine restriction so I went with .45 initially because I have limited mag size anyways so, fat boy for the win. Then I realized that .45 is so much nicer to shoot than 9 mm, so even after I move to Indiana .45 will be my preferred caliber. That said I have 9 mm as my winter gun since my 9 mm carry gun is a little fatter since it's double stack, while .45 is my summer carry and home defense ammo.
Same here and I did buy my own when offered. I even got a .40 upper for my AR. Funny, I'm far from a big guy and with all those rounds we put down range recoil was never a thought. I retired before the 9mm came about, but I still carry a 9 every day. The smaller gun that I have on my person is a lot better than the bigger gun I left at home.
I learned on my grandfathers old service pistol a Glock 27. It’s what I have, it’s what I learned on, it’s what I know, I’ve shot 9mm and really love the round for the less recoil but I’m not at a point where I want to buy another gun and I’ve trained a lot with the .40 you are absolutely correct when saying shoot what your comfortable with
If shot placement was everything, we wouldn't spend so much time developing new rounds. Everyone is most likely hitting center mass. Nobody is trained to bank on a head shot. Your bullet needs to be controllable and powerful, your aim needs to be solid, and your follow ups need to be quick.
@@alastor8091 CENTER MASS IS WHERE YOUR VITIAL ORGANS ARE !! HEART ,LUNGS,BELLY. LIVER .THEY ALL LIKE TOO BLEED A LOT. LOSS OF BLOOD EQUALS LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS.
Trained with and have owned .40 for years. I'll never understand the complaints over the recoil. It's kind of common sense that the larger the caliber/gunpowder, the more recoil at the muzzle. This can be totally negated by training and becoming proficient.
If you’re forced to rapid fire 🔥, you will be at a disadvantage, if the gun has a heavy recoil. You gonna miss a lot especially if you’re being fired at.
@@tax905972 And this is where we hit the inevitable impasse in this discussion. So called guru's claim that modern technology has made the 9mm cartridge as capable as...wait for it...the BASE .40 calibure. What us not taken into account is +p+ in 165 gr. or 180 gr. in the 40. You simply cannot have a higher weight and kinetic energy in a handgun without more recoil. Is the .40 a viable cartridge? Yes! Is it for everyone? No! On the other hand I've seen so-called antagonistic pundits make fun of the .40, but praise the capabilities of 10mm -- which is the same family but in a shortened casing. Going back to my original statement, MOST of the issues with recoil can be negated with time and training.
I open carry a .40 cal at work and conceal carry a 9mm or. 45 cal all the time. Normally it would just be the 9mm but it was stolen and the cops have it till they have the trial. Good on the police for the quick recovery, but up to two years for the trial to take place? Man, that blows!
@@communistsaregross3165Do you also advertise on your pickup with the standard “gun guy” stickers all over your rear windshield? People who think opposing views are “invalid and wrong” are typically lukewarm in the intelligence department. Intelligent people know they don’t know everything. They also don’t open carry.
@@communistsaregross3165 you must not watch active self protection. Just watched a video where someone had their open carry taken from them while standing in line at a convenience store 😂🤣🤡
I carried a .40 working armored transport and got a laugh from my boss who said the .40 is just a pu$$ified 10mm! Years later I decided to try a 10mm and was surprised at how well it handled. Even follow-up shots and rapid fire were in a tight grouping in my first practice session! The Springfield XDM 10mm became my favorite and EDC ever since. I know there will be those who claim this is overkill, but it's important to note that I live in a rural area that has bears and mountain lions.
Remember during covid when ammo was scarce and hard to come by? Well that was when the .40 cal guys we're laughing at the 9mm and .45 guys because .40 was the only ammo still left on the shelf
My first gun and still my EDC is a 40s&w the ballistics of the rounds I carry have been proven I carry more rounds than any 45 and more punch than any 9 and I can always find ammo, yes more expensive than 9mm which I have in my Evo and less expensive than 45. Shooting my 3" barrel 40 makes me even more proficient in my other guns of different calibers
@craigsmith1443 no perfect round just what makes a person confident and proficient, I think there are different guys and calibers for different situations
From what I've seen .40 S&W is the most versatile commonly available semi auto pistol caliber. Typical .40 ballistics are on par with .45 ACP but with greater magazine capacity and smaller framed gun options. There are a lot of guntubers who test various defensive and outdoorman type loads of all the different popular pistol calibers. Aside from true full power 10mm, .40 S&W tends to perform the best. It does very well in ballistic gel, on meat targets, and for barrier penetration. Shootability with .40 really depends on the shooter and the gun. I have a S&W SD40 and a Sig P226 chambered in .40. The P226 soaks up the recoil quite well, much more so than the polymer-framed SD40. The p226 with Underwood 155 grain XTP @1300 FPS is a nasty home defense pistol. 10mm ballistics but with double stack capacity. It's basically the double stack P220 that Sig never made.
I purchased a used Cop trade in Glock 27 for $350. I did a ..few upgrades and it's a badass gun. Fits in my Glock 19/26 holsters AND I am a huge 10mm Fan SO the .40 is no problem to shoot. Underwood 165 gr Gold dots always in the ready. Oh, Glock 22 high cap magazines/ plastic sleeve. Great match up.
.40 S&W really is the best common caliber. Maybe not in a tiny gun, but take a 4.5" or 5" duty size pistol and pick a caliber. The .40 S&W doesn't need it to be 115 gr+P+ to be minimally effective or a 200 gr +P just to get some HP expansion. If you got a 155 gr you basically have a duty size .357 Magnum for capability. What makes the .40 S&W pretty good is the nose shape. That necessity for it being flat nose to fit in a 9mm frame gun, is the very thing that dumps energy immediately rather than going in and THEN expanding. Thus, it's why out of the 9mm/.40 S&W/.45 ACP, the .40 S&W is the most effective caliber across the board that is still easy to control. Watch a few police body cam or dash cam clips where it's confirmed a .40 S&W is used and you just about always see one or two shots being fired and the bad guy falls down. With 9mm, half the time this happens too and the other half the time there's about 14 landed shots before the bad guy stops attacking.
Why is the 40 always so hated. The .40S&W was the first caliber I ever shot. When I worked in personal security it was the caliber they trained me on to be accurate out to 25 yards. I was also trained on a 12gauge semiautomatic shotgun out to 50yards with slugs. So obviously being said I own a Springfield Armory XD40 service model. And now own a Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical
Just finished all 3 videos, great stuff Colion. The twist with the therapist being .357 is hilarious. I own 9mms and .45s. I love to shoot all of them but I prefer to carry 9mm for several reasons I will not go into. I don’t own any .40s, but I have shot quite a few. While I understand the reasons and benefits behind the caliber I don’t find it works well for me. And frankly that is what people need to understand. All these calibers got pros and cons, therefore none are the absolute best. What it comes down to is how well you are able to use it. Every person is different and therefore need different tools to fit their specific needs.
I only got into 40sw because people were selling their guns cheap and 40sw reloading components were being given away for almost nothing (free brass, plates bullets for 6c each)
He says recoil is abrasive for .40 . Well , that depends on which gun you're using . I've shot G23 , G22 and yes it's got snap . Now shoot a Sig Sauer P226 or P229 and you will notice a lot less felt recoil . Stainless steel slide , Aluminum alloy frame , steel guide rod and a multi wound recoil spring makes it shoot very soft .
I have several 9mm, and one .40 S&W. After talking to a cop about what we carry, he brought up the point that if you have to fight your way out of your vehicle, you'll most likely have to shoot through your windshield, and a 9mm will change its trajectory going through the glass, while a .40 has enough energy behind it to stay on target. For the reason that my job requires me to drive hundreds of miles at a time, I've started carrying my .40 most.
Just finished the trilogy myself! I have carried all three rounds so this was a lot of fun. I started off carrying a .40 as my first handgun when I turned 21. It was a Glock 22. I liked it fine but bought into the stopping power trope so I switched to a .45 Springfield XD. Carried that for a long time too, then I got watching a TH-camr that pushed ammo capacity as the most important thing, so I got myself a Glock 17. As far as shooting goes, I liked the .45 best, but my current carry gun is a 9mm S&W Shield since it is so easy to conceal. I live where it is hot all the time, so I like being able to conceal in gym shorts and a t-shirt. I do plan on getting a full size 10mm soon-ish though.
Carried a .40 and trusted my life with it for 25 years in LE. Best round for its intended purpose, in my opinion. I worked for a large agency that allowed officers to carry 9mm, .40 or .45. They also allowed you to carry any handgun on an approved list. I don’t agree with agencies who force all officers to carry the same make and model of gun. The odds that you will need to be proficient in a firefight are far greater than the chance you might need to use a magazine from another officer if you run out of ammo. Everyone is different and one gun or caliber that is good for one person might not be good for another. Shoot what you’re comfortable and confident with.
I carry a .40 sub-compact as a back-up to my regular EDC. Frankly, the only perk to carrying a 9mm over a .40 is 1-3 more rounds in a mag... It is all a matter of personal preference.
I chose .40 because it has knockdown power similar to a .45 with the ability to have more concealed rounds in my gun. But trying to find a value ppw with glock mags that uses the .40 is tough, which is why I am considering switching to 9mm. I want to only have one caliber pistol & ppw stocked at home to avoid confusion when the shit hits the fan and I have to load my weapons without thinking whether or not its the right round for that weapon. My AR and bolt action rifles are both 300 blackout that both accept AR mags to avoid confusion. Not to mention, they both can be silenced quite well, which saves your ears.
I went in a gun store looking to purchase a .45. Retired police officer asked if i ever shot a .40 s&w..he said i should try it out before going for a higher caliber..here i am now with my .40 s&w & i do not regret it..took a second to adjust to the recoil but its my everyday carry now.
Recoil isn't bad in my S&W M&P PC C.O.R.E either, but I have a light and an optic. It's not bad in my Shield either. LOL I think some people are just whimps!!!! LMAO
I like my 40, I don’t find it has more recoil than a 45. I chose it over a 9 because it is a less commonly used round and easy to find a compact lead dispenser. So I disagree with you that I am confused on caliber or just read a couple articles. 🤪
I just finished the trilogy of people who carry XXX calibers. I remember back in the 1980s when the "wonder nine" became a thing. Each month was a new super double stack 9mm, 12 round, 15 rounds silly stick magazines that held 20 or even 30 9mm rounds. Glock, Sig, Baretta, and others. Revolvers were old hat no matter what the caliber, same with the .45, they started calling the 1911 "venerable". There were a couple of police officers who wrote a book called "Handgun Stopping Power, The Definitive Study", these guys took shooting cases and filtered out one shot stops, a torso hit that took the fight out of the perpetrator. Number 1,2, and 3, were .357 with 125 grain JHP, .45ACP with 185 grain JHP and 9mm with 124 grain JHP. The .357 was 97.5% one shot stops while the 9mm was 95.5% with the .45ACP right in the middle at 96.5%, I carry a 9mm on some days, a 1911 in .45 some days and a 4 inch .357 S&W on some days. My .45 holds 8, the S&W holds 6 and my single stack compact 9mm holds 7. I don't feel any of my choices are lacking enough power or capacity to protect me and those close to me. I have read about cases like the 1986 Miami FBI shootout, fairly or not, the 9mm got labeled as ineffective for law enforcement because of that. Even though it was 9mms, .38s and .357s as well as a shotgun on the FBI side involved. Shot placement is the biggest thing. I do have to admit to being partial to the .45 and the 1911 in particular. I shot the 1911 from boot camp then on up until the Baretta get issued. My 1911 and the old .357 revolvers are my favorite guns to shoot. These were some good videos; I would recommend watching all three to other viewers.
I got a .40 Cal S&W carry gun, before all the scrutiny. I have a lot of confidence in the choice. Small package, pretty good firepower. My go to gun. Lot's of people chiming in, none that would like to be shot with it.
Also my vacation gun. Camping in the areas where bears are roaming around. Security. Bang, you are a 🐻. You are another type of threat, I can maybe deal with that.,
I used to carry a Glock 27. Very snappy with the .40 S&W. Recoil is rough, yes, but bringing the muzzle back on target is the real problem. The Glock 43X has been much more enjoyable to shoot and carry, and with Shield Arms mags, I can carry 15+1.
This is so true. I have a Glock 23. But I also have a P365. My Glock was my first semi auto hand gun and let’s face it, It has that Glock Perfection. It never fails me and always goes bang. But… my P365 is smaller has I’ve never had any issues with it. It has the Holosun 507k x2 and a TLR-7. Then with a 12 round mag and 1 in the chamber it only has 1 less round than the G23. But I have the 15 round mags for a reload and that gives me more than the G23. I could buy G22 mags, but I still need my slide milled for a dot. I think I need a therapist.
Most of the 90s I worked a S&W 1006 during winter months and a 686 4in otherwise. FFW to now, older and a bit slower, I use the 9mm in a G43. The wife uses the G43 as well as she has a bum left elbow. Cheers Men.
I am not confused. I never carried 9 (except for on duty) and I never considered carrying 45. 9mm overpenetrates. It's so small, even when it mushrooms, it doesn't have enough surface area to slow adequately. 40S&W expands more, given more surface area, dumping velocity into the target. As far as 45 goes, it's too old and slow. Period. My first EDC was a Shield in 40. My home defense pistol is an M&P 2.o in 40. Only firearm I purchased in between was a G17. ONLY reason I bought it was because I was gonna need it for work, then didn't take that job. (The job I took provided my with a G22) I did carry an M9 in the Navy. Only time I've ever carried 9mm and unless I get a job where I need to carry my G17, it'll be the only time I carry 9mm. I'm not confused, in educated. Just because I'm a middle child doesn't mean you're right about 40 carriers Colion!!!!
OMG 😂 I have liked the .40 since i read a article on HK .40. Years ago,at the time i carried a .9mm im a middle child, who also owns a .45 lol ! I think you made about this about me ! Love your work please keep it up !😂
My 14 year old granddaughter, skinny little girl in the 8th grade whom I am raising, upon inspecting the top shelf of my safe and looking at around 20 handguns up there on that shelf asked me to hand her my S&W MP 40--certainly one of my older semi autos..a beautiful well cared for weapon I really cherish. ..she handled it, looked it over and told me this was the one for her..I advised her that this was a unusually powerful round even for an adult..falling between a 45 and a 9mm....she was nonplussed and said "Nope grandpa, this is the one for me"! Go figure! I got her an Masterpiece Arms Defender this year..she took to that like a duck takes to water and riddled a target like it was nothing. What a kid!
Down here in my state of New South Wales Australia the police department has the glock 40 S&W as a standard issue pistol and this one had me in stitches 😂.
The . 40 is not a middle ground. It's loaded at a higher pressure than the . 45 In terms of power it's the top of the 3. It's only the middle ground in terms of diameter
Velocity alone doesn't determine stopping power. Plus, the .40only exists as a lower velocity 10mm in order to reduce recoil. At best its a shitty 10mm
I carry a 40SW and never looked back. If you can handle a 357 Mag or 44 Mag, 45 ACP you can handle a 40. Remember the 10mm has more recoil with same bore diameter..My EDC is a G27 stoked with 40SW Barnes 140gr TAC-XP carried in a GCODE Eclipse. I shoot 9 mm, 357 mag, 44 MAG, 45 ACP and reload them all. Started reloading for the 44Mag for a Ruger Super Blackhawk back in the 1970s. So, I have experience and retrospect. I love the 40, but will carry a 9MM. Just depends.
I had no idea there was so much controversy around the 40 cal.. I came across my Sig that just happened to be in 40 cal.. like it.. and bought it. Was that simple...
Funny cuz I commented on the 9mm video and I personally carry .40 S&W but I basically said weight the benefits of downfalls of each round and carry what you are comfortable with. No one should’ve judge you and if they do it doesn’t matter. I learned on a 40 it’s what I have it’s what I know I’ve shot 9mm and like it as well as 45 but I’m just gonna stick to what I have, know, and love
40 cal. is a good round just like 9mm and 45 acp. Purchased a glock 27 40 cal. And said then oh kicks to much, ejection problems... talk to retired cop and suggested to swap the plastic guide rod for metal rod, he said I had a limp wrist lol. He was right and I had no more problems. Then 9mm was cheaper ammo so I converted the 40 cal. To 9mm in the gun great I can shoot a lower cost. Then ammo shortages hit, and couldn't find 9mm anywhere but there was rows of 40 cal. Haha I was still in business. Just saying one in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.
If cost of ammo is the defining factor in your caliber decision, I think you're in the wrong "hobby". My and my family's lives are worth ANY cost. I chose my preferred caliber based on 4 months of research on caliber ballistics. After I made my choice and purchased my EDC, I've seen several LEOs state that, in their experience, it has the best real world results in multiple shootings, ie. takes down victims in fewer shots every time. In my mind, there is no caliber debate.
Thank you for your response. If you look at the ballistics test of modern 9mm hollow points they are far superior to the .45 and the .40. That's why you will see the FBI abandoned the .40 cal. And yes it is a hobby to shoot but I have been EDC for thirty years now and only carry hollow point and train withe FMJ. Be safe and always be carrying. Friend.
I love these! I'm a 9mm carry guy and a .40 S&W bedside guy for those "who are you and what the hell are you doing in my house in the middle of the night?" moments.
Why didn't Colion do a video on people who carry .357 Sig. It looked like the perfect segway from the therapist being all high and mighty on her choice.
Ok, how about, "Types of people that carry revolvers"? We can break that down; .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, and .44 Magnum. Yeah, a can of worms, big time!
I carried a 9mm for a couple of years and of course the berretta in the Army. But I always felt like I was shooting a pop gun. So I tried ,45 I liked it was accurate but the .40 was just right. For the record I am the youngest male child
I was an armed guard. I carried .40 S&W, 9MM and .45 ACP. Depending on the day and how I was feeling would dictate the round and firearm I carried that day. 9MM was my summer carry, the CZ75 I had was a dream in the warm weather. .45ACP was my normal carry, and the Sig P220 I used was a beast but accurate and more than enough to make people rethink their life choices if they got hit with it. My Glock 27 in .40S&W was what I carried when I was hurting from carrying too much coin into a bank the previous day. I would also carry the 9 or 40 if I was driving an armored truck that day, as the rigs I had carried the gun higher than my 45. Made the job more comfortable. Proper shot placement and weekly practice meant I was confident in whatever I had on me at the time was going to do the job. Still didn't like carrying the 9 in winter, as I still don't think it can penetrate multiple thin layers of clothing, something often seen in winter. However those puffer jackets? Hell yeah I'll go through that :P
Orrrrr, most of the LEO in the area used 40 and the availability of once fired brass was a never ending. In CA you are/were limited to 10 rounds. I never had a problem handling the 40s recoil. In fact I liked it for shooting USPSA because it was easy to make Major Power Factor with handloads, 9 not as easy. Lets face it, 10 -15 years ago the 40 ammo was harder hitting than 9. I'll admit things have changed in that regard. To a major extent, geography had a lot to do with my choice.
In 26 years in LE I first carried 9mm. I lateraled to a new department and they mandated .40. After a few years, they changed & mandated 9mm for department issued pistols. I actually shot both well. The 9mm obviously didn’t feel like it was going to jump out of your grip each time you fired. Now that I’m retired I carry a Glock 43X MOS. That gun would be uncontrollable in .40; not enough mass.
Different ammo, cost for the guns, and availability of that ammo. Plus less trees are police officers nowadays, so smaller guns are needed. SPEER GOLD DOT 124 +P HOLLOWPOINT IS A GREAT ROUND.
I agree G43 would be uncomfortable to shoot 30 out of. My Shield is not because it'sthe extra grippy 2.0 version. I did get the 4" barrel rather than the 3.1" because I figured a few extra ounces would help recoil impulse.
If you’re retired and have your LEOSA certification, you need a gun you can conceal. If it shows in some states you may get arrested for displaying it.
Depends on the platform, every caliber can have uncomfortable recoil when shot out of the wrong gun, I carry a Beretta px4 storm in 40 and it has less recoil than my wife's m&p shield in 9mm, it's what I've always carried and what I'm comfortable with, my advice shoot what you are proficient and comfortable shooting
Okay, confession time. I bought my .40 because I got a screaming deal from my boss and it came with a bunch of pew pills! Hey Colion, could you recommend a hot, I mean a good therapist? This session was inspirational!
Not all that long ago, 40 was the darling of USPSA limited and single stack divisions. Than 9mm became the go to caliber for these divisions even though scorded minor. Over time, folks figured out that the higher capacity gave them an advantage even if scored minor. When I started shooting USPSA I shot a high capacity double stack 40 in limited division. For sometime my CCW gun was a Glock 23. Than the slimmer and smaller 9mm's came into vogue. Now my CCW gun is a Sig P365XL. With all that said I still like the 40 as I could shoot it quite well. If it was the same size as my Sig, I would carry it!
So my take is.... I'm a veteran and from all the places I've ever been, there will be a 9mm. I want to say that if the SHTF here on home turf, I'll have ammo that I will be able to get. The military will have 9mm, 5.56 and of course 7.65. So I have at least one of each. I may even purchase an AK in the future. I'm just not there yet. But I think you get my drift. Other calibers may be pretty hard to come by if, or when there is trouble. Everything has it's good points and bad....
Bought a glock 23 40 before 9s improved performance. Bougth a 40 to 9 conversion barrel. Less expense to by a barrel than a new gun... one gun 2 barrels...easier to pick up ammo because now I have choices this just a barrel change. Flexibility is everything when your balls are against the wall.
I like these videos. Gotta have some fun. Heaven forbid I would have to defend myself, but it could be any number of calibers depending on what I'm wearing and my humor of the day. They all work as long as you practice enough to put them in the right place.
As a middle child suffering from chronic and incurable “habitual compromising disorder” I carry .40, but only because it just happened to be something I liked shooting. I have nothing against 9mm or .45, I just shoot .40, but as many others commented, shoot what you can shoot well. If you can’t put the lead on the target, it wouldn’t matter if you were shooting a 105mm Howitzer. I just want all 3 groups to get along and understand each other’s unique needs, wants and desires when it comes to picking a caliber. We need to live in a harmonious environment where each person is allowed to express their caliber without fear of repercussions, mockery, bigoted hatred or any kind. After all, this is America and we’re all armed up and prepared to defend our nation, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, our way of life and, if/when necessary, regardless of the caliber the person next to us is using. After all, it’s not like we’re asking anyone to choose between right and wrong, life or death, love me or hate me. Why can’t we all just get along? And so ends my attempt to get everyone to see the value in compromising on this matter. 😊 ARMOR UP, AMERICA!!! Get ready to face the hounds of hell because they are coming and they don’t give a rat’s ass about what you’re carrying. They are intent in killing us all so whatever you shoot, shoot it deadly well. God Bless America!
I prefer a 9mm just because I own so many of them and very proficient with them because I have so many hours practice with them, But I also own 40, 45, 357, and I like them all just as well and don't really find any of them too snappy to the point of being uncomfortable or tough to get back on target quickly, and for those who like to micro carry especially a 380 you talk about a snappy gun, 380 is got to be the worst with the least amount of fire power! I say carry what your most proficient with and keep up on your practice,
My bigger pistols bang my leg too much of I'm not wearing a belt (wearing shorts or sweat pants to take my dogs outside) so I just bought an LCP Max. It's no worse than my Shield in 40. I think the Shield fits my hand better (or I have more pratice) so I shoot better with it. I definitely enjoy having a pistol meant for pocket carry when I need it.
.40 S&W was my first EDC. I just assumed the recoil was normal for a handgun and never was bothered by it.
Wow! my first EDC was a 40 also! and I assumed the recoil was normal. Taught my boys to shoot with it. (One's a Marine and the other is in the Air Force now) and I carry a LCP Max now!
The 40 has a 96% one shot stop percentage in LE shootouts. I switched when the FBI did. I was a gun store clerk back then. One of my regulars was a grizzled US Marshal . We talked calibers and pistols and our gunsmith restocked his beat up old 12 ga. He stocked up on Black Talon 40's and double ought buckshot for an upcoming trip to pick up a fugitive. He said that he carried a .357 before the .40 came out and he liked having 12 rds available when he needed them instead of 6 in his revolver. Works for me too.
Where did you get the 96% data from? From most BWC shootings I've seen mutiple shots are almost always fired. So how would they know it's "one shot"
@@Nathan-jh1ho There is a book which records officer involved shootings. Marshal is the name of one of the authors. I can't recall more than that. I don't know their methods but it is considered authoritative. A customer of the gun store i worked at brought his copy in for me to borrow. It was after the FBI went to the 40 S&W. This was in the 1990's.
I’m a retired Law Enforcement officer. We carried 9mm for many years and changed over to .40 caliber midway through my career. I reload ammo and own 9mm, .40 caliber and .45 caliber guns. I prefer to carry my Glock 27 in .40 caliber because it gets the job done and it is concealable. Use whatever works for you!
Most be from Texas because in most departments you will be issued a 9mm or 40s&w. On the northeast . You get what they issue. Glock 19 or 17 with 15-1. , Sig p226 or the S&W not sure what model but it’s stainless and double action only with 12 lb triggers .
Yep, Glock 27 is my ECD. Primo!
The Sig P226 is a double-single action. I have the P229 in 40SW and .357 Sig. The P226 and the P229 are double action on the first shot and single action thereafter. FYI, I like the P229 and carry it loaded with .357 Sig. But when I go to the range, I switch out the barrels to 40SW to save a few bucks on ammo. .357 Sig is pretty expensive and harder to get than 40SW. @@tax905972
Nope, Illinois!
My ccw is Glock 27
I don't discriminate, I like all calibers. But I think it's funny how gun owners like to talk down to anyone who carries something different than they do. Just carry whatever is comfortable and accurate for you. 👍🇺🇸
Excellent comment! I grew up in Memphis, you better carry whatever you have!
Only sensitive people think a debate is a talkdown. You maybe wrong my guy!!!
Whatever is comfortable would just mean you're telling everyone to carry 22lr because it's the lightest weight and has no recoil
@@jason200912 a little recoil not gonna hurt you! My goodness!!
It's about day in day out carry.
If your not carrying religiously it academic.
I was a police officer in Salinas, CA for 20 years. I was a CSI for most of my career. I saw the 40 do more damage to both bodies and other objects than either the 9 or 45. Real world experience.
Tell a guy who carries 9mm or 45 that, they will call bs so fast.
You never mentioned the ammo used. Their all Different.
@thedude3219 I agree, im just saying it as a joke "kinda" because theres definitely truth to it. I carry. 40 as well only switch to my hellcat depending on what im wearing.
@@tax905972 what you seem to clearly not understand is, if you have two of the same brand rounds but different calibers, example, winchester 9mm and winchester .40. The bigger round will do more damage. If you ever watch comparison videos, majority of them people will use a completely different branded caliber and use a HP 9mm but a FMJ .40 then try to compare them. Of course the HP will have a bigger hole because you compared it to a FMJ .40.
@thedude3219 The military doesn’t see what the 18,000 police departments see every day on American streets.
That "therapist" caught my attention a lot more than the caliber debate. Yes, indeed. Very nice.
LOL 😂😂ME TOO!!
Better “production quality” he says. Sure Colion, if that’s what you want to call it.
I was reading all these to replies to see when someone was going to mention the true content of the video and then here we are! We'll done! Now the question really is.... Where do I see more?
Ditto.
I think that’s his bro, chill before you get with the .40😭
I ended up buying a .40 S&W handgun simply for the fact that in my area and within multiple stores .40 S&W ammunition was the only thing on the shelves during the past two ammo shortages. That and the store I was working at was closing that location and we had a huge sale on Everything including firearms. So I ended up with a Beretta APX in .40 S&W for under $250 out the door.
I did the same thing. Got a used Shield 40 cal, for cheap. Ammo was no problem. The recoil wasn't that bad to me. Bought a 9mm + Shield, and carries 2x the ammo in a mag.
Well that's 6 minutes of my life that I'll never get back! And I'm still carrying a 40 ...
40 just sucks and you don’t want to admit it 9 +p out does 40 and still get more rounds
That’s what I’m saying
@@davebrown6483yeah ok. Still carrying .40
Amen!
@@davebrown6483in no way does even the hottest 9 do better than 40 only thing it beats it in is having one extra round and weight 😂
I unfortunately live in NY, and round restrictions do have to be considered in these conversations. I can carry a Glock 23 the same dimensions as the 19 the same number of rounds allowed in my state, but a slightly larger caliber. I also throw an aftermarket 9mm conversion barrel in it and shoot 9mm at the range. For those of you that are going to tell me to leave NY and go to a free state my answer is: stop encouraging people to give up the fight in their home states and flee to a politically safe state.
Do they even let you have guns in New York? Don't you have to be like the president or like a billionaire there?
@@commiezombie2477 Upstate New York. There is a huge part of New York state that isn't the city. We still have some freedoms here.
And I am sure NY is trying to find a way to remove a certain ex-president, billionaire's CCW permit actually. So yeah not even they can have them probably.
@commiezombie2477 I'm a mechanic in a small city in Central NY. Took me 5 weeks total from safety class to permit. Most of the state is actually quite 2a friendly. NYC and a few other big blue cities ruin it for the rest of us.
Edit: no I'm not happy I had to do this. I'm a 2a absolutist, the people should have everything the military has access to.
no offense, but your answer (stop encouraging people to give up the fight in their home states and flee to a politically safe state), i do not see that happening in our life time or like at all.
I totally get you man. I live in California and it's the same thing here, if not a little worse. But it also sounds like it's somewhat the same in that Northern California excluding the largest cities like San Francisco and Sacramento tend to be a little more 2A friendly but the problem is that the state restrictions apply everywhere. As it stands right now I cannot buy the handgun that I want because it is not legal in this state just due to some stupid restrictions that they put on gun manufacturers in order to sell guns here. And to add to your just move out of the state argument, it's just not that simple. You need to find another state, then find a job there and a house. Not to mention leaving all of your friends and family that you have where you live. And yes it would be nice to stay and fight the good fight but California basically no chance of recovery anymore.
I carry a .40 cause it's all I've ever carried for 33 yrs as an LEO. I'm used to it. Now that I'm retired, it's what I carry, cause . . . I'm . . . used . . . . to . . . um, it.
I've always owned .40 S&W from the start and I don't find the recoil difficult. I use 180 gr. JHP, the bottom end of the .45 weight range and just a wee bit bigger than a 9mm. BTW, I was the youngest child and don't have identity issues, at least that's what the voices in my head tell me. (LOL)
Could you tell the voices in your head to keep the volume down; my voices can't get any sleep!
@@markh.6687,
You tell'um man! By the way if you can both keep it down.. now I have three voices in my head, and only one that I can constantly ignore!
Also the youngest I also carry 40. I was somehow still offended lol
My thinking was 9 is fast but small, 45 is big but slow, and 40 was closer to being both big and fast.
Big bullet doesn’t always mean stopping power. The energy those bullets produce too create womb damage is what really matters.
As an airline pilot I served in the Federal Flight Deck Officer program. Our issued duty weapon was an H&K USP Compact in .40 cal. I ended up buying my own personal copy of the H&K USPC 40. It is the gun that I trained with most, and most familiar with. It is my personal carry gun to this day. The .40 is snappy. But that can be managed with training. The 9mm gives you a few more rounds per mag. The FFDO program is transitioning away from .40 to the Glock 19 in 9mm. More of a move to standardize the FFDO's, Air Marshall's and other armed DHS LEO's. As for .45? While I own several, just not something I have ever carried much. Certainly, another very capable round. I think the best caliber is personal choice. What is needed for your mission. And at the end of the day, the best caliber is the caliber that you can reliably put on target. And put in the time to train with and stay proficient! No matter experience level, operating your weapon system, and putting rounds on target is a perishable skill. For all of us! Caliber doesn't matter too much if you cannot put it on target! In a high stress or life threatening situation, with adrenaline flowing we all degrade to the minimum level of our training. ;)
I live in an area with magazine restriction so I went with .45 initially because I have limited mag size anyways so, fat boy for the win. Then I realized that .45 is so much nicer to shoot than 9 mm, so even after I move to Indiana .45 will be my preferred caliber. That said I have 9 mm as my winter gun since my 9 mm carry gun is a little fatter since it's double stack, while .45 is my summer carry and home defense ammo.
Same here and I did buy my own when offered. I even got a .40 upper for my AR. Funny, I'm far from a big guy and with all those rounds we put down range recoil was never a thought. I retired before the 9mm came about, but I still carry a 9 every day. The smaller gun that I have on my person is a lot better than the bigger gun I left at home.
10mm for the win
I learned on my grandfathers old service pistol a Glock 27. It’s what I have, it’s what I learned on, it’s what I know, I’ve shot 9mm and really love the round for the less recoil but I’m not at a point where I want to buy another gun and I’ve trained a lot with the .40 you are absolutely correct when saying shoot what your comfortable with
That's a fed program, which backfired last week.
Since Glock 22 is the more used handgun by police nationwide I dont really care what a youtuber can say.
Zero sense of humor.
Types of people that carry 10mm next 😂 might as well keep the series going
You beat me to it I came here to say the same thing
And 5.7
Types of people that carry 12mm
Correction 10mm
Rarely see 10 mm ammo so don't bother.
Practice with WHATEVER you carry.....as Mr.Noir said before....shot placement is EVERYTHING!
YUP!! If you can't hit shit, it really doesn't matter what you carry.
Practice...... whatever your flavor is
If shot placement was everything, we wouldn't spend so much time developing new rounds. Everyone is most likely hitting center mass. Nobody is trained to bank on a head shot. Your bullet needs to be controllable and powerful, your aim needs to be solid, and your follow ups need to be quick.
@@alastor8091 CENTER MASS IS WHERE YOUR VITIAL ORGANS ARE !! HEART ,LUNGS,BELLY. LIVER .THEY ALL LIKE TOO BLEED A LOT. LOSS OF BLOOD EQUALS LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS.
@@alastor8091 Any bullet can end you.Some pellet guns can end you. There isn’t a firearm round that doesn’t have the ability too end your life.
Trained with and have owned .40 for years. I'll never understand the complaints over the recoil. It's kind of common sense that the larger the caliber/gunpowder, the more recoil at the muzzle. This can be totally negated by training and becoming proficient.
Every one in law enforcement isn’t a male,6’5 250lbs .
If you’re forced to rapid fire 🔥, you will be at a disadvantage, if the gun has a heavy recoil. You gonna miss a lot especially if you’re being fired at.
Even if you have broken your hands/wrists? Seems like a better idea to carry low-recoil rounds.
Recoil affects your recovery time and accuracy for follow-up shots.
@@tax905972 And this is where we hit the inevitable impasse in this discussion. So called guru's claim that modern technology has made the 9mm cartridge as capable as...wait for it...the BASE .40 calibure. What us not taken into account is +p+ in 165 gr. or 180 gr. in the 40. You simply cannot have a higher weight and kinetic energy in a handgun without more recoil. Is the .40 a viable cartridge? Yes! Is it for everyone? No! On the other hand I've seen so-called antagonistic pundits make fun of the .40, but praise the capabilities of 10mm -- which is the same family but in a shortened casing.
Going back to my original statement, MOST of the issues with recoil can be negated with time and training.
"I carry a .357 Sig and you are all idiots".
Coffee shot out my nose. That was boss level. Comedy = 10.
I open carry a .40 cal at work and conceal carry a 9mm or. 45 cal all the time. Normally it would just be the 9mm but it was stolen and the cops have it till they have the trial. Good on the police for the quick recovery, but up to two years for the trial to take place? Man, that blows!
Open carry? Nice
If you are open carrying I hope you at least have a threat secured holster .
@@communistsaregross3165Do you also advertise on your pickup with the standard “gun guy” stickers all over your rear windshield? People who think opposing views are “invalid and wrong” are typically lukewarm in the intelligence department. Intelligent people know they don’t know everything. They also don’t open carry.
@@communistsaregross3165 you must not watch active self protection. Just watched a video where someone had their open carry taken from them while standing in line at a convenience store 😂🤣🤡
@@joejohnson4183 Agreed
My wife carries and shoots a S&W M&P .40 and has no problems at all with recoil. So you probably are a recoil sensitive girly man. Your call not mine.
Rip girly man lol
I carried a .40 working armored transport and got a laugh from my boss who said the .40 is just a pu$$ified 10mm! Years later I decided to try a 10mm and was surprised at how well it handled. Even follow-up shots and rapid fire were in a tight grouping in my first practice session! The Springfield XDM 10mm became my favorite and EDC ever since. I know there will be those who claim this is overkill, but it's important to note that I live in a rural area that has bears and mountain lions.
As a 40 S&W Carrier.... I enjoyed this Video very much!!!
I am a retired LEO and carried the .40 as a duty weapon, still carry the .40 as my EDC.
Remember during covid when ammo was scarce and hard to come by? Well that was when the .40 cal guys we're laughing at the 9mm and .45 guys because .40 was the only ammo still left on the shelf
Amen!
Made me a 40sw convert!!😊
LoL yup.
I remember this! That’s why I was glad I trained mainly with a g23 😬
That's exactly the same comment 9mm guys made in the 9mm video.
My first gun and still my EDC is a 40s&w the ballistics of the rounds I carry have been proven I carry more rounds than any 45 and more punch than any 9 and I can always find ammo, yes more expensive than 9mm which I have in my Evo and less expensive than 45. Shooting my 3" barrel 40 makes me even more proficient in my other guns of different calibers
Sounds like a compromise...and a good one!
@craigsmith1443 no perfect round just what makes a person confident and proficient, I think there are different guys and calibers for different situations
@@opalocka06 :-) I'm convinced that the perfect round is every one of them.
I got a 4 inch. On sale years ago. Easy to handle. Need a big shirt.
@@craigsmith1443every one that's on target lol
From what I've seen .40 S&W is the most versatile commonly available semi auto pistol caliber. Typical .40 ballistics are on par with .45 ACP but with greater magazine capacity and smaller framed gun options. There are a lot of guntubers who test various defensive and outdoorman type loads of all the different popular pistol calibers. Aside from true full power 10mm, .40 S&W tends to perform the best. It does very well in ballistic gel, on meat targets, and for barrier penetration.
Shootability with .40 really depends on the shooter and the gun. I have a S&W SD40 and a Sig P226 chambered in .40. The P226 soaks up the recoil quite well, much more so than the polymer-framed SD40. The p226 with Underwood 155 grain XTP @1300 FPS is a nasty home defense pistol. 10mm ballistics but with double stack capacity. It's basically the double stack P220 that Sig never made.
Very smart woman... Nothing complicated or confusing about having a caliber gun to End a gun fight quickly 👍😎🇺🇸
Us .40 people know that our genius doesn’t need to be understood by all the normies 😜
I purchased a used Cop trade in Glock 27 for $350. I did a ..few upgrades and it's a badass gun. Fits in my Glock 19/26 holsters AND I am a huge 10mm Fan SO the .40 is no problem to shoot. Underwood 165 gr Gold dots always in the ready. Oh, Glock 22 high cap magazines/ plastic sleeve. Great match up.
.40 S&W really is the best common caliber. Maybe not in a tiny gun, but take a 4.5" or 5" duty size pistol and pick a caliber. The .40 S&W doesn't need it to be 115 gr+P+ to be minimally effective or a 200 gr +P just to get some HP expansion. If you got a 155 gr you basically have a duty size .357 Magnum for capability. What makes the .40 S&W pretty good is the nose shape. That necessity for it being flat nose to fit in a 9mm frame gun, is the very thing that dumps energy immediately rather than going in and THEN expanding. Thus, it's why out of the 9mm/.40 S&W/.45 ACP, the .40 S&W is the most effective caliber across the board that is still easy to control. Watch a few police body cam or dash cam clips where it's confirmed a .40 S&W is used and you just about always see one or two shots being fired and the bad guy falls down. With 9mm, half the time this happens too and the other half the time there's about 14 landed shots before the bad guy stops attacking.
I agree completely
No middle child here. Oldest one. Grew up on .40’s love em and still carry a G27 everyday.
Why is the 40 always so hated. The .40S&W was the first caliber I ever shot. When I worked in personal security it was the caliber they trained me on to be accurate out to 25 yards. I was also trained on a 12gauge semiautomatic shotgun out to 50yards with slugs. So obviously being said I own a Springfield Armory XD40 service model. And now own a Mossberg 940 Pro Tactical
Just finished all 3 videos, great stuff Colion. The twist with the therapist being .357 is hilarious. I own 9mms and .45s. I love to shoot all of them but I prefer to carry 9mm for several reasons I will not go into. I don’t own any .40s, but I have shot quite a few. While I understand the reasons and benefits behind the caliber I don’t find it works well for me. And frankly that is what people need to understand. All these calibers got pros and cons, therefore none are the absolute best. What it comes down to is how well you are able to use it. Every person is different and therefore need different tools to fit their specific needs.
She probably regretted her choice once .357 Sig became damn near impossible to find in stores. 😂
As someone that carries .357 Sig, I agree with this therapist 😂
What gun?
Prob a glock. Not a lot of guns in 357sig
huh? could you repeat that? huh? I can't hear you.
Nice sound with blazing speed.
Guess I should feel special when I carry my 357 mag....
Feel free to make more videos with her in it
As a middle child who after a lot of research years ago bought their first pistol in .40...well, this struck home.
Lmfao
I only got into 40sw because people were selling their guns cheap and 40sw reloading components were being given away for almost nothing (free brass, plates bullets for 6c each)
Stocked up on 40sw when everyone hated it in 2019ish. I'm sitting on a small brass fortune.
I stocked up on 10MM during the pandemic when everyone was standing in line buying 9MM ,
Funny I did the same thing, I’ve got a .40 handgun and a PCC in .40 and plenty of ammo for both weapons!
Me to
Hehe sounds like we had the same idea
When all that 9 and 45 ammo was empty guess who's 40 was still running at the range XD
He says recoil is abrasive for .40 . Well , that depends on which gun you're using . I've shot G23 , G22 and yes it's got snap . Now shoot a Sig Sauer P226 or P229 and you will notice a lot less felt recoil . Stainless steel slide , Aluminum alloy frame , steel guide rod and a multi wound recoil spring makes it shoot very soft .
Still carry .40s&w, mainly in winter and while out in the woods. Deals with barriers, brush, and bones better as standard.
I have several 9mm, and one .40 S&W. After talking to a cop about what we carry, he brought up the point that if you have to fight your way out of your vehicle, you'll most likely have to shoot through your windshield, and a 9mm will change its trajectory going through the glass, while a .40 has enough energy behind it to stay on target. For the reason that my job requires me to drive hundreds of miles at a time, I've started carrying my .40 most.
I seen .357 magnums rounds bounce off windshields and not go through them before.
Just finished the trilogy myself! I have carried all three rounds so this was a lot of fun. I started off carrying a .40 as my first handgun when I turned 21. It was a Glock 22. I liked it fine but bought into the stopping power trope so I switched to a .45 Springfield XD. Carried that for a long time too, then I got watching a TH-camr that pushed ammo capacity as the most important thing, so I got myself a Glock 17. As far as shooting goes, I liked the .45 best, but my current carry gun is a 9mm S&W Shield since it is so easy to conceal. I live where it is hot all the time, so I like being able to conceal in gym shorts and a t-shirt. I do plan on getting a full size 10mm soon-ish though.
Carried a .40 and trusted my life with it for 25 years in LE. Best round for its intended purpose, in my opinion. I worked for a large agency that allowed officers to carry 9mm, .40 or .45. They also allowed you to carry any handgun on an approved list. I don’t agree with agencies who force all officers to carry the same make and model of gun. The odds that you will need to be proficient in a firefight are far greater than the chance you might need to use a magazine from another officer if you run out of ammo. Everyone is different and one gun or caliber that is good for one person might not be good for another. Shoot what you’re comfortable and confident with.
I carry a .40 sub-compact as a back-up to my regular EDC. Frankly, the only perk to carrying a 9mm over a .40 is 1-3 more rounds in a mag... It is all a matter of personal preference.
I chose .40 because it has knockdown power similar to a .45 with the ability to have more concealed rounds in my gun. But trying to find a value ppw with glock mags that uses the .40 is tough, which is why I am considering switching to 9mm. I want to only have one caliber pistol & ppw stocked at home to avoid confusion when the shit hits the fan and I have to load my weapons without thinking whether or not its the right round for that weapon. My AR and bolt action rifles are both 300 blackout that both accept AR mags to avoid confusion. Not to mention, they both can be silenced quite well, which saves your ears.
She carrys a 357 SIG, now thats my type of woman....well, she has other awesome qualities also. ❤
Haha! I was planning my comment and at the end she busted out the .357 Sig. That’s how I roll.
I am just glad to see some are packing. Any fire arm is better then nothing. Caliber does not mean much like you said as much as shot placement.
I went in a gun store looking to purchase a .45. Retired police officer asked if i ever shot a .40 s&w..he said i should try it out before going for a higher caliber..here i am now with my .40 s&w & i do not regret it..took a second to adjust to the recoil but its my everyday carry now.
I used to carry a .40 Ruger P-Series ((K)P‐94(4)). Never thought the recoil was bad at all... but then it is a brick of a pistol.
Recoil isn't bad in my S&W M&P PC C.O.R.E either, but I have a light and an optic. It's not bad in my Shield either. LOL I think some people are just whimps!!!! LMAO
The therapist is right. 🤷🏼♂️😂 357 sig is the best of both worlds that come together to 357 magnum numbers. 🤷🏼♂️
I like my 40, I don’t find it has more recoil than a 45. I chose it over a 9 because it is a less commonly used round and easy to find a compact lead dispenser. So I disagree with you that I am confused on caliber or just read a couple articles. 🤪
I just finished the trilogy of people who carry XXX calibers. I remember back in the 1980s when the "wonder nine" became a thing. Each month was a new super double stack 9mm, 12 round, 15 rounds silly stick magazines that held 20 or even 30 9mm rounds. Glock, Sig, Baretta, and others. Revolvers were old hat no matter what the caliber, same with the .45, they started calling the 1911 "venerable". There were a couple of police officers who wrote a book called "Handgun Stopping Power, The Definitive Study", these guys took shooting cases and filtered out one shot stops, a torso hit that took the fight out of the perpetrator. Number 1,2, and 3, were .357 with 125 grain JHP, .45ACP with 185 grain JHP and 9mm with 124 grain JHP. The .357 was 97.5% one shot stops while the 9mm was 95.5% with the .45ACP right in the middle at 96.5%, I carry a 9mm on some days, a 1911 in .45 some days and a 4 inch .357 S&W on some days. My .45 holds 8, the S&W holds 6 and my single stack compact 9mm holds 7. I don't feel any of my choices are lacking enough power or capacity to protect me and those close to me. I have read about cases like the 1986 Miami FBI shootout, fairly or not, the 9mm got labeled as ineffective for law enforcement because of that. Even though it was 9mms, .38s and .357s as well as a shotgun on the FBI side involved. Shot placement is the biggest thing. I do have to admit to being partial to the .45 and the 1911 in particular. I shot the 1911 from boot camp then on up until the Baretta get issued. My 1911 and the old .357 revolvers are my favorite guns to shoot. These were some good videos; I would recommend watching all three to other viewers.
The .40 makes you feel better in bear territory, which is where I live😂
As an ex LEO we always knew when someone was shot with a 40!!
I got a .40 Cal S&W carry gun, before all the scrutiny. I have a lot of confidence in the choice. Small package, pretty good firepower. My go to gun. Lot's of people chiming in, none that would like to be shot with it.
Also my vacation gun. Camping in the areas where bears are roaming around. Security. Bang, you are a 🐻. You are another type of threat, I can maybe deal with that.,
I used to carry a Glock 27. Very snappy with the .40 S&W. Recoil is rough, yes, but bringing the muzzle back on target is the real problem. The Glock 43X has been much more enjoyable to shoot and carry, and with Shield Arms mags, I can carry 15+1.
I have a p320 in .40 cal. It is hard to control recoil and get back on target. It's FAR worse than the 9 and worse than my .45 cal Springfield
I carried a Colt 1911A1, and a Beretta 92FS while I was in Federal Service. My home defense pistol is a SW M&P .40.
This is so true. I have a Glock 23. But I also have a P365. My Glock was my first semi auto hand gun and let’s face it, It has that Glock Perfection. It never fails me and always goes bang. But… my P365 is smaller has I’ve never had any issues with it. It has the Holosun 507k x2 and a TLR-7. Then with a 12 round mag and 1 in the chamber it only has 1 less round than the G23. But I have the 15 round mags for a reload and that gives me more than the G23. I could buy G22 mags, but I still need my slide milled for a dot. I think I need a therapist.
Most of the 90s I worked a S&W 1006 during winter months and a 686 4in otherwise. FFW to now, older and a bit slower, I use the 9mm in a G43. The wife uses the G43 as well as she has a bum left elbow. Cheers Men.
I enjoyed this series years ago, and it's still both educational and humorous. I like both 9 and 45 better than the middle of the road.
Why limit yourself to carrying just one caliber?
I am a 40 guy but w ammo improvements I do also carry p365 w underwood extreme penetrators. In 40 ammo doesn’t matter! All will outperform 9
I do sometimes carry a HK USP 40. It is pretty heavy pistol and was designed around the S&W 40 caliber round.
That was the first gun I ever bought! I still have it and occasionally carry it. For 20 years, I had no idea that 40 was snappy.
I am not confused. I never carried 9 (except for on duty) and I never considered carrying 45.
9mm overpenetrates. It's so small, even when it mushrooms, it doesn't have enough surface area to slow adequately. 40S&W expands more, given more surface area, dumping velocity into the target.
As far as 45 goes, it's too old and slow. Period.
My first EDC was a Shield in 40. My home defense pistol is an M&P 2.o in 40. Only firearm I purchased in between was a G17. ONLY reason I bought it was because I was gonna need it for work, then didn't take that job. (The job I took provided my with a G22) I did carry an M9 in the Navy. Only time I've ever carried 9mm and unless I get a job where I need to carry my G17, it'll be the only time I carry 9mm.
I'm not confused, in educated. Just because I'm a middle child doesn't mean you're right about 40 carriers Colion!!!!
OMG 😂 I have liked the .40 since i read a article on HK .40. Years ago,at the time i carried a .9mm im a middle child, who also owns a .45 lol ! I think you made about this about me ! Love your work please keep it up !😂
My 14 year old granddaughter, skinny little girl in the 8th grade whom I am raising, upon inspecting the top shelf of my safe and looking at around 20 handguns up there on that shelf asked me to hand her my S&W MP 40--certainly one of my older semi autos..a beautiful well cared for weapon I really cherish. ..she handled it, looked it over and told me this was the one for her..I advised her that this was a unusually powerful round even for an adult..falling between a 45 and a 9mm....she was nonplussed and said "Nope grandpa, this is the one for me"! Go figure! I got her an Masterpiece Arms Defender this year..she took to that like a duck takes to water and riddled a target like it was nothing. What a kid!
She has great taste!!!!
You’re a good man for taking her under your wing like that. She will remember those days forever, and no man will give her SH*T. 💪🏼
You sir - are a great man
Down here in my state of New South Wales Australia the police department has the glock 40 S&W as a standard issue pistol and this one had me in stitches 😂.
What's weird is that a lot of .40 s&w is MORE powerful than .45 acp.
I mean 40 jhp is gonna be more powerful than 45 ball
@@RealNathanExplosionwaited all my life to shoot the famous 45 and it wasn’t any recoil worth waiting on.
Is that a fact?
Absolutely love the nostalgia of your 2A sketch videos!
Before he was he fired from the NRA for being an incompetent spokesperson
The . 40 is not a middle ground. It's loaded at a higher pressure than the . 45
In terms of power it's the top of the 3.
It's only the middle ground in terms of diameter
Cope
@@notar33lbadjur60physics isn't cope.
It depends on the load but yes, defense loads are spicier than 45s
@@StrangeTamer178 can't you just up the charge on .45's to bring them up to par or beyond?
Velocity alone doesn't determine stopping power. Plus, the .40only exists as a lower velocity 10mm in order to reduce recoil. At best its a shitty 10mm
40S&W is also known as the 10mm short.
I carry a 40SW and never looked back. If you can handle a 357 Mag or 44 Mag, 45 ACP you can handle a 40. Remember the 10mm has more recoil with same bore diameter..My EDC is a G27 stoked with 40SW Barnes 140gr TAC-XP carried in a GCODE Eclipse. I shoot 9 mm, 357 mag, 44 MAG, 45 ACP and reload them all. Started reloading for the 44Mag for a Ruger Super Blackhawk back in the 1970s. So, I have experience and retrospect. I love the 40, but will carry a 9MM. Just depends.
I had no idea there was so much controversy around the 40 cal.. I came across my Sig that just happened to be in 40 cal.. like it.. and bought it. Was that simple...
Funny cuz I commented on the 9mm video and I personally carry .40 S&W but I basically said weight the benefits of downfalls of each round and carry what you are comfortable with. No one should’ve judge you and if they do it doesn’t matter. I learned on a 40 it’s what I have it’s what I know I’ve shot 9mm and like it as well as 45 but I’m just gonna stick to what I have, know, and love
40 cal. is a good round just like 9mm and 45 acp. Purchased a glock 27 40 cal. And said then oh kicks to much, ejection problems... talk to retired cop and suggested to swap the plastic guide rod for metal rod, he said I had a limp wrist lol. He was right and I had no more problems. Then 9mm was cheaper ammo so I converted the 40 cal. To 9mm in the gun great I can shoot a lower cost. Then ammo shortages hit, and couldn't find 9mm anywhere but there was rows of 40 cal. Haha I was still in business. Just saying one in the hand is better than 2 in the bush.
If cost of ammo is the defining factor in your caliber decision, I think you're in the wrong "hobby". My and my family's lives are worth ANY cost. I chose my preferred caliber based on 4 months of research on caliber ballistics. After I made my choice and purchased my EDC, I've seen several LEOs state that, in their experience, it has the best real world results in multiple shootings, ie. takes down victims in fewer shots every time. In my mind, there is no caliber debate.
Thank you for your response. If you look at the ballistics test of modern 9mm hollow points they are far superior to the .45 and the .40. That's why you will see the FBI abandoned the .40 cal. And yes it is a hobby to shoot but I have been EDC for thirty years now and only carry hollow point and train withe FMJ. Be safe and always be carrying. Friend.
I carry a Glock 22 .40 cal as my main EDC and a Glock 43x 9mm as a backup 🤷🏽♂️
I hope he covers a next title called, "types of people that carry 380 ACP". 😇
I love these! I'm a 9mm carry guy and a .40 S&W bedside guy for those "who are you and what the hell are you doing in my house in the middle of the night?" moments.
That’s exactly what I do.
I am with her….love the 357 sig!!!
Why didn't Colion do a video on people who carry .357 Sig. It looked like the perfect segway from the therapist being all high and mighty on her choice.
Nobody buying that caliber for concealed carry.
Because not even Sig makes a pistol in .357 Sig anymore. ;)
The reason why is the 40s&w have the same specs.
@@familyman3573 it’s basically a hot.40 .
A perfect "segway"?
The "therapist" is a smoke show.
Ok, how about, "Types of people that carry revolvers"? We can break that down; .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum, .44 Special, and .44 Magnum. Yeah, a can of worms, big time!
don’t dis’ my 460xvr …
I carried a 9mm for a couple of years and of course the berretta in the Army. But I always felt like I was shooting a pop gun. So I tried ,45 I liked it was accurate but the .40 was just right. For the record I am the youngest male child
I was an armed guard. I carried .40 S&W, 9MM and .45 ACP. Depending on the day and how I was feeling would dictate the round and firearm I carried that day. 9MM was my summer carry, the CZ75 I had was a dream in the warm weather. .45ACP was my normal carry, and the Sig P220 I used was a beast but accurate and more than enough to make people rethink their life choices if they got hit with it. My Glock 27 in .40S&W was what I carried when I was hurting from carrying too much coin into a bank the previous day. I would also carry the 9 or 40 if I was driving an armored truck that day, as the rigs I had carried the gun higher than my 45. Made the job more comfortable.
Proper shot placement and weekly practice meant I was confident in whatever I had on me at the time was going to do the job. Still didn't like carrying the 9 in winter, as I still don't think it can penetrate multiple thin layers of clothing, something often seen in winter. However those puffer jackets? Hell yeah I'll go through that :P
Orrrrr, most of the LEO in the area used 40 and the availability of once fired brass was a never ending. In CA you are/were limited to 10 rounds. I never had a problem handling the 40s recoil. In fact I liked it for shooting USPSA because it was easy to make Major Power Factor with handloads, 9 not as easy. Lets face it, 10 -15 years ago the 40 ammo was harder hitting than 9. I'll admit things have changed in that regard. To a major extent, geography had a lot to do with my choice.
Cops are not all 6'5" like they were in the 50's and 60's.
😳 the 357 sig completely side swiped me. Just watched the 9,45, then 40 and when she said 357 it hit like a season finale.
In 26 years in LE I first carried 9mm. I lateraled to a new department and they mandated .40. After a few years, they changed & mandated 9mm for department issued pistols. I actually shot both well. The 9mm obviously didn’t feel like it was going to jump out of your grip each time you fired. Now that I’m retired I carry a Glock 43X MOS. That gun would be uncontrollable in .40; not enough mass.
Different ammo, cost for the guns, and availability of that ammo. Plus less trees are police officers nowadays, so smaller guns are needed. SPEER GOLD DOT 124 +P HOLLOWPOINT IS A GREAT ROUND.
I agree G43 would be uncomfortable to shoot 30 out of. My Shield is not because it'sthe extra grippy 2.0 version. I did get the 4" barrel rather than the 3.1" because I figured a few extra ounces would help recoil impulse.
NYPD has banned the Glock 43x because they can’t get a heavy ass trigger for it like they have in the 26,19 and 17 they have authorized.
@@bradhertzler4451 that defeats summer carry .
If you’re retired and have your LEOSA certification, you need a gun you can conceal. If it shows in some states you may get arrested for displaying it.
Depends on the platform, every caliber can have uncomfortable recoil when shot out of the wrong gun, I carry a Beretta px4 storm in 40 and it has less recoil than my wife's m&p shield in 9mm, it's what I've always carried and what I'm comfortable with, my advice shoot what you are proficient and comfortable shooting
That therapist…
Okay, confession time. I bought my .40 because I got a screaming deal from my boss and it came with a bunch of pew pills!
Hey Colion, could you recommend a hot, I mean a good therapist? This session was inspirational!
I like my 40 cal. I owned a 45 cal and my 40 has significantly less recoil
This video not only provided some knowledge but it was also very entertaining. This should be a netflix series and I'd binge watch it LOL
Thats my girl 357 sig❤ rocks❤
Honestly for home defense is one of the best. I practice mainly up to mainly 10 yards accurately
Not all that long ago, 40 was the darling of USPSA limited and single stack divisions. Than 9mm became the go to caliber for these divisions even though scorded minor. Over time, folks figured out that the higher capacity gave them an advantage even if scored minor. When I started shooting USPSA I shot a high capacity double stack 40 in limited division. For sometime my CCW gun was a Glock 23. Than the slimmer and smaller 9mm's came into vogue. Now my CCW gun is a Sig P365XL. With all that said I still like the 40 as I could shoot it quite well. If it was the same size as my Sig, I would carry it!
Did you ever shoot 9×25Dillon?
@@JadedGLORY2689 No but i do shoot .38 Super Comp in my USPSA Open Division gun.
So my take is.... I'm a veteran and from all the places I've ever been, there will be a 9mm. I want to say that if the SHTF here on home turf, I'll have ammo that I will be able to get. The military will have 9mm, 5.56 and of course 7.65. So I have at least one of each. I may even purchase an AK in the future. I'm just not there yet. But I think you get my drift. Other calibers may be pretty hard to come by if, or when there is trouble. Everything has it's good points and bad....
are you going to make a .380 version of this? these videos are funny.
Bought a glock 23 40 before 9s improved performance. Bougth a 40 to 9 conversion barrel. Less expense to by a barrel than a new gun... one gun 2 barrels...easier to pick up ammo because now I have choices this just a barrel change. Flexibility is everything when your balls are against the wall.
Don't forget you can also purchase a 40 to a 357 sig if you wanted.
The therapist is spot on. Get a real therapist and carry what you like. 🤞🏾
I like these videos. Gotta have some fun. Heaven forbid I would have to defend myself, but it could be any number of calibers depending on what I'm wearing and my humor of the day. They all work as long as you practice enough to put them in the right place.
As a middle child suffering from chronic and incurable “habitual compromising disorder” I carry .40, but only because it just happened to be something I liked shooting. I have nothing against 9mm or .45, I just shoot .40, but as many others commented, shoot what you can shoot well. If you can’t put the lead on the target, it wouldn’t matter if you were shooting a 105mm Howitzer. I just want all 3 groups to get along and understand each other’s unique needs, wants and desires when it comes to picking a caliber. We need to live in a harmonious environment where each person is allowed to express their caliber without fear of repercussions, mockery, bigoted hatred or any kind. After all, this is America and we’re all armed up and prepared to defend our nation, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, our way of life and, if/when necessary, regardless of the caliber the person next to us is using. After all, it’s not like we’re asking anyone to choose between right and wrong, life or death, love me or hate me. Why can’t we all just get along? And so ends my attempt to get everyone to see the value in compromising on this matter. 😊
ARMOR UP, AMERICA!!! Get ready to face the hounds of hell because they are coming and they don’t give a rat’s ass about what you’re carrying. They are intent in killing us all so whatever you shoot, shoot it deadly well. God Bless America!
I prefer a 9mm just because I own so many of them and very proficient with them because I have so many hours practice with them, But I also own 40, 45, 357, and I like them all just as well and don't really find any of them too snappy to the point of being uncomfortable or tough to get back on target quickly, and for those who like to micro carry especially a 380 you talk about a snappy gun, 380 is got to be the worst with the least amount of fire power! I say carry what your most proficient with and keep up on your practice,
My bigger pistols bang my leg too much of I'm not wearing a belt (wearing shorts or sweat pants to take my dogs outside) so I just bought an LCP Max. It's no worse than my Shield in 40. I think the Shield fits my hand better (or I have more pratice) so I shoot better with it. I definitely enjoy having a pistol meant for pocket carry when I need it.