If everybody could afford a v8, everybody would have a v8. I’d really appreciate those with v8’s to stop talking down on those with v6’s. A vehicle is a vehicle. Yours makes more power! Good job👏🏾👍🏾
It's literally a couple grand more. It cost less for the rt than it does to supercharge or turbo and tune your car. Fact of the matter is. People buy a v6. Spend all their money on stupid shit and all that money coulda gotten an 8. Almost every v6 driver is certified rice in their "mods" they'll spend thousands on wraps Amazon wings and stickers and louvers and shit. Fact of the matter is if you can't afford a race car. Then you shouldn't be going after one. Like the guy said. It's a daily. Its got a little bit of power. And it's less expensive than a foreign car and better reliable than most foreign cars especially for power in price range. 25k is a Camry. A charger is way nicer and the motor is just as reliable
@@kylealton4347 I hear you, but going from $29,995 to $36,995 has a major effect when we’re talking about financing. That’s a $500 car note VS a $700-$800 note. I respect what you’re saying and agree to a degree, but everyone can’t afford the hemi and a lot of people like the style of the car. I got lucky and got a 2020 GT for $25,000 thanks to COVID.
@@marcuslawson6800 that is a good deal. But I also know that they can get a few years older rather than buying a car brand new. I mean gas is always an excuse. But if they can't afford gas why are they buying a new car? It's nothing more than a mix between instaclout, ignorance, misplaced trust towards used cars, and fulfilling their ego with getting something new. Now they'll also use the warranty or maintenance plan as an excuse. But most early maintenance services and costs are due to the break in period and nothing other than battery changes and oil changes should really be happening until 50-80k miles. Idk who drives that in 4 years. Not to mention there's full warranty plans for used cars even that are multi tiered to fit budget and go up to a lifetime and can be customized to support aftermarket parts and these warranty plans are less expensive than most dealer warranties unless it's free with signing during some special promotional event. Basically the people I see, and I am talking through personal experience through my own eyes, buy a brand new 6cyl muscle car usually aren't doing anything big with their life. And they always have those same excuses. Like gets better gas mileage. Or the v8 was just more expensive ect.
While I usually enjoy your videos, I have to take exception to the condensing tone of this video. I'm 65 years old and have been going to the dragstrip since the early 70's. One thing that I always loved about drag racing and cruising in general is that there was always a place for everyone, regardless of the type of car you chose to run. I raced a 65 Chevy Impala Super Sport with a swapped in 427 and Muncie 4 spd as my first strip car and daily cruiser. Because of the high level of competition in the large V8 classes, I had limited success at Englishtowns Raceway Park. As my Impala was being repaired, I bought a used Chevy Vega with a 4 cyl and 4 spd, to drive around while I spent my free time working on the Impala. One weekend, while waiting on head work for my main ride, we went to the dragstrip just to watch, in the Vega. Racing wasn't busy for some reason and just for kicks, we ran the Vega. I still have that old faded time slip for its first run...18.563 @ 78 mph 😳 . After that run, we took out the spare tire and all the other junk, and I advanced the timing 4 degrees. We knocked a full second off our time and added 1 mph. Well, I was hooked. It wasn't long before I sold the Impala and started racing the little Vega every weekend. 4 barrel manifolds, headers, HEI ignition, etc... Because we changed to bracket racing, I had more success in that little Vega, then I ever had in the Big Block Impala and it was a lot more fun. Plus we had to innovate a lot because not many people were racing Vegas. My point is, Hotrodding has ALWAYS welcomed Everyone, regardless of what you were running. Just because you have a V8, doesn't make you "King of the Hill". Lots of people race 6 cylinders and 4 cylinders, it all depends on what you get into and what draws you to Cruising and Racing. Your video would have been much better served, if you had actually shown what is available to the V6 crowd, what the best "Bang for the Buck" mods are, whats available, etc... Last weekend, I traded in my 2018 Mustang GT for a 2020 Dodge Challenger SXT, having done a lot of research on the Pentastar V6 and the Challenger in general. I bought it so that I could take my 2 teenage children with me when I go cruising and in the future, to the dragstrip. I had the money for a Scat Pack, but dismissed it because I wanted a base trim level so I could build it the way I wanted. The only addition I added was the Premium Sound System with Navigation, because I wanted to have decent tunes while I planned out my project. I now enjoy taking the Wife and Kids cruising around the beach cities of Florida. I think you do some great videos and have enjoyed watching them, but remember, it would be a boring sport and hobby if everyone showed up to the track in Hellcats, SS Camaros and Mustang GTs. Diversity makes the sport and everyone's is welcome.
Cool mate I agree 💯! Do you know what else is available for mods for the 3.6 Pentastar. Other than the mods we all already know like cold air intake, full exhaust system, ported upper and lower intake manifold, 80MM throttle body, RIPP coil packs, RIPP supercharger.
Would LOVE to have a Hemi powered Dodge, but until they return those to AWD trims, I’m stuck with a V6. Some of us have to deal with harsh weather that rear wheel drive only cars struggle with.
Same reason I'm looking at one as well. Looked at the jeeps cause I like them from my experience with my 2002 I have. But they are about 5k more than a challenger.
If it's snow your talking about, with a good set of cables the scat behaves pretty well, as long as your not getting on it rough and are driving responsibly.
IF, you buy for practicality and reliability, then yes, I agree with almost everything you said, however, where I think you miss is for those who buy because they can't afford the higher trims. Seems we sometimes look at it as a total sum up front. Spend 35K on the already fast car, or spend 35K on a slow car and all the mods for it, (hence all the 'you shoulda just bought a x') but it doesn't work that way. Sometimes people don't have that money to borrow or put out up front. The mods are spread out over what can be years sometimes. So for them, I say yes, if the V6 is all you could get, and you don't care for a smooth reliable car, and care more about going as fast as you can, mod the hell out of it. I was one of those people, it took me 20 years to finally get an "SRT level" (not an SRT, don't want to start a fight here lol) car in my 1320. Before now, I just had to make do with what I could afford or what the banks said I could afford. Sometimes that meant modding up cars or trucks that most people would say is stupid to mod up.
I fully agree .. affordability plays a massive part in why so many V6 cars are sold.. nothing wrong with getting what you can comfortably afford and enjoying it 👍
RacerX Go drive the JEEP Wrangler with the turbo and pentastar!!! It’s nearly the same performance and way more fun of a daily!!! I love my scat pack but every time I hop in the jeep I just smile and half the time I pull the top down.
@@chadhanson4369 A turbo on a Pentastar? What model is that? I find that very hard to believe considering the headers are molded into the engine block.
I have a 2008 Dodge Charger SXT with the 3.5L V6. Its a nice comfortable ride and it has made me change my views on getting an older muscle car. I like the car for what it offers. It was priced right. It looks awesome. A V8 would have been great, but would have cost much more than I was willing to spend at the time. Now that I have the money to upgrade, I am considering what is best for my family. Wanted an SRT8 Challenger and opted for a V6 Charger. At 44 years old, I no longer feel the need to do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. But, if i feel the need to punch it on the highway... I will get there quicker than most. Or at least most of the cars I remember when I was younger... Runs the same 1/4 mile time as my neighbors 95 Chevy Impala SS. But I always hear that I should have bought an RT, SRT or Hellcat... you can't please everyone. Just get what makes you happy and enjoy it.
Yes they do.. just be ready to upgrade the transmission, drivetrain, fuel system, and do a couple of cooling mods .. and don’t exceed 7lbs without tearing the engine down and increasing the ring gap at minimum.. can be a lot more costly than people think 👍
@@RacerX9 Ripp did their homework on the v6. They are still very reliable with the supercharger and you don't have to do anything after the supercharger kit unless you want more power. But for it to be supercharged you can daily it and have more fun in it. Ripp has tested and proving it to still be reliable. But if your going to the track all the time and ruff on it all the time yes it will need to be built to handle it. But my SXT plus has 70,000 miles on it and it is mostly stock and still runs like a top and fun still to drive. When I'm on the road working I sit there think of a Scat pack or a Hellcat to replace the SXT but then when I'm home and get in the SXT I fall in love with it all over again.
@@TruckerSaLer You don't need any supporting mods when installing the RIPP, but it would be good for peace of mind. I put 20 inch rims with some sticky Firehawks, and she handles totally different now.
@@RacerX9 friendly neighborhood v6 owner here... just fyi @6:00 you mention headers but these engines have the exhaust manifold integrated into the engine. You can't put headers on it. Correct me if I'm wrong
I have a 2016 300C AWD V6 and I love it. Not a race car, but does get out of its own way. Amazing cruiser, smooth, quiet and does all that in the snow.
I have V6 18 Challenger SXT Plus.. Just added Mangaflow exhaust/ K&N Cold Air/ Front Lip kit/ 20% Tint and it drives fast and smooth on the highway.. (over 110 mph easily 🤫)
I'm glad you came up with this video because the truth must be told. Even if the 3.6 is more high-tech than a hemi , Chrysler just wanted that engine to be bread and butter.
I have the v6 300S AWD & I enjoy it, my question I remember seeing a TH-cam video saying if one would remove the filter and cut a hole in the housing to increase more air in it will boost the performance by how much?
I have a 2019 300 just like that one ,I put a Drop in K&N air filter in it and also did a Resonator delete with 2 small 1 chamber Flow Monster mufflers. Sounds good, a little bit more pickup,fuel mileage actually went up @ 3 mpgs average all for less than $200 ,Cant beat it .
@@Lehjet Honestly yeah, K&N air filter with just a muffler delete or a aftermarket muffler is a nice cheap combo you can do easily. Adding a Strut bar helps a lot with the handling without doing expensive coil overs, plus you can easily do the install at home
That's a very honest, realistic look at the V6 lineup from Mother Mopar. You made a good point on using the V6s as a platform for more "show" mods than "go" mods. There were some great examples of just that at the Mopar Meet in the Mountains in Gatlinburg back in June.
I’ve always had fast cars and kinda felt lame for buying a 300 with a v6 , good to hear you describe the cars and what they’re meant for in the way you did
Great video! Glad to see some love to some of us V6 folk. But that is true when I bought my challenger at 23 the Sxt was all I could afford. Fast forward to now I’m 29 and in Hellcat territory looking to pull the trigger very soon. However I kinda want to keep my Sxt as my daily cruiser.
Exactly! I'm 48. I just purchased an sxt, and I'm not trying to make the traveling roads a drag strip. But, later, if I wanted to boost the power and output of my ride, there is that option. Back when I was growing up, I owned a couple of old-school classic and antique cars that I modified; one was a 66 impala, and the other a 77 pontiac grand prix with a 88 oldsmobile engine...both were stolen. At any rate, I grew up going to car shows with my dad where vehicle mechanical components (engine and all) would be totally chromed out with mirrors beneath to see it all, we would also go to drag strips and go to the pit and mechanics were proud to tell you about their mods, they feel, that gave them an edge. As you said, all engine classes were accepted. There's nothing wrong with buying a fully tuned V-8 that's ready to go to the strip right off the showroom floor, but you bought it like that and had no involvement with how it performs, so you can't brag about it! My dad was a street racer in his youth and always kept a classic car in the driveway when I was growing up that he constantly tuned. A lot of my friends and I did the same, and it was normal for you not to let others see what you had under the hood. Modifications are synonymous with the muscle car industry! That's most of the fun! To be called a grease monkey used to be a badge of honor and to brag about what you did to make your car faster gave you real clout. But now you mostly have people who know little about cars and are buying all their muscle ready-to-go, but want to talk down to others with v6 or other stock engines. Please!
I agree. The V6 is a great car and I don't think it's worth the cash to mod. Not enough bang for the buck. I live in New England and daily a 2018 Challenger GT AWD. It's so fun to drive, good on gas, is a beast in the snow, and makes me smile every time I get behind the wheel. Great video.
Book says 300HP for 2018 GT AWD.....during test drive and transit from dealer back to home I hit 307 for a couple of seconds during acceleration. What’s weird is that normal cruise even running around 70-75MPH after hitting 8th gear and level surface the HP gauge was indicating about 40-60HP......and still getting high 20’s MPG. Tough to argue with 25-30 MPG and comfortable smooth ride. Leather, heated....includes steering wheel, NAV, Ventilated seats, SIRIUSXM radio, split folding rear seats etc..... Originally was looking for R/T HEMI but C/V took to long and not overly transparent with reason for delay....Ironically about two hours after I canceled the order I got another delay message. GT was three mode years newer and almost 30K less miles. Only thing I lost from the R/T was the HEMI, 20’s ( GT has same wheels but 19”) and Moonroof.....ph wait one more thing the GT had for advantage.....in stock and immediately available.
Never put down the little guy. Im older and have the v6 because of gas and reliability as well as easier to work on. Looks good , drives good and runs as good as some of the considered performance cars did in my younger days. I like the looks of it as well. You dont always have to be dangerous and waste tires for enjoyment. Things change as you get older. And if you want to know the definition of high performance , it is , performs better than average for what it is.
I love this. I have a 2020 charger sxt because it was affordable. I crunched the numbers and would be paying $400 for insurance and $1060 for monthly compared to what i pay now. Plus i make $13h so yea I got in where I fit in. I always get crap like " just buy a v8, your car sucks, if you cant afford a v8 then don't buy a charget" like it's my money and if I want to buy a v6 and mod it overtime, then I will. I'm happy with mine. Plus it sounds great. Will post video of my new muffler in a few.
Try a cold air intake for your Chrysler 300, I have one on my 2013 300C, and it makes a significant improvement in throttle response, passing power, and sound! Well worth the money !
Great video! I just installed the Pedal Commander (easy install...plug and play) to my V6 Challenger to get a more sporty feel (not designed ro increase horsepower or torque). However, it gets off the line quicker and eliminates that slow throttle delay completely when set to sport plus mode. It also gives it a little better sound with the intake and exhaust system. I like the v6, and it's fun to drive, but I still want to get the srt in the not too distant future 😁.
I had a V6.... bought a Borla ATAK exhaust.. cold air intake... RIPP Supercharger... just wasn’t happy with it ultimately.... bought a SRT 392. Haven’t even started modding it and I’m very pleased with it.
I spent $2500.00 of mods on my sxt, including fogs, custom carpets, classic Challenger font badges, a great K&N to increase the hp somewhere near 330ish (from stock 305 hp ) which also provides a sweet sound to a point where I feel exhaust mods aren't necessary. Finally a set of sport Toyo tires to max fit 245 55 18. Racer is on the money with this review. I couldn't be more pleased with the overall look, sound and performance as non racer enthusiast. Anything more than this needs to skip all those expensive turbo/super chargers and go straight to the RT. in the end, it's cheaper. Great vid man!!
Hey i am in a same boat.... I wanna mod my challenger with a cold air intake....does it really add 30 horses? Can you feel the difference while driving? Does it voids the power train wattanty? Whats the cost? Does it affect the reliability?
@@jayeshjahagirdar9589 hey Jay. I haven't dyno tuned it after I installed the K&N but there's a modest increase of 15 to 20 hp. Getting airflow through with a sport throttle body and resonator deletes can give another 5 to 10hp. It doesnt void the warranty and the gas mileage is slightly better if you dont kick it. I highly suggest you go for. Installation is easy. Cost me around $500 Canadian funds
Ya know... Real racers, real power plant people get turned on by making more power with a smaller motor than everybody else... It is an indication of knowledge
RIPP has been supercharging these 3.6 motors for years - and they remain reliable as well as faster than the 5.7 liter, so no guy, don't agree at all. You can buy the supercharger for around $5500.00, about 3 grand for a proper install, and get more power than the 5.7 - and RIPP has been proven for years to be a bulletproof conversion.
I have a 300S with the 3.6. I ran into a "racer" boy with a obviously built Neon. I've tormented him for weeks trying to get by me. The Pentastar is a gem. Off the line or on the pass, love the power. And it's still stock. Adding an intake and maybe a tune, but you're right. It's the perfect balance 👌
Everything that you can basically do that doesnt require you to rip apart the block i.e. Intake, Exhaust, Tune, etc. will not affect the general performance of the engine itself, once you start changings stuff within the engine, like he said, cams for instance, its Pandora's Box, it will never run the same way ever again, and good luck trying to get a dealer to sell it off. If you want to put a Cold Air on it? go for it, its an interchangeable part, doesnt hurt anything, want a nice exhaust for that deep throaty noise? go for it, its not affecting the engine, but will increase power and torque because and for instance if you put a performance muffler on the Chargers and delete anything that is restrictive, with the exception of the Cats, and straight pipe it, its going to have better air flow all around. The car will breathe better, a long with putting a nice tune on the vehicle, I recommend for the V6s a Diablo 87 Octane Tune, you can do 93, but it might damage the engine over time, as the Pentastars are only built to use the regular gas, not a higher octane. You do this, and your car will drive better. For me for instance I have a 2013 Charger V6 with a Diablo 87 Tune, and a Flowmaster Exhaust, I plan to put on a K&N CAI with an 80mm Throttle Body, all that is interchangeable and will help the car breathe better, if you want to go further, you can do RIPP Coils with the NGK Spark Plugs for a little more WHP but besides that I can push at least 340 in my V6, maybe another 10HP with the cold air should i end up getting it, other than that if you choose to supercharge a V6, your stupid, just get a Hellcat at that point
I just traded in my '09 chevy imapa ltz for a '16 dodge charger sxt. Before I watched this video I watched your other video on your recommendations for mods on V6s. My top 3 mods will def be: 1. cold air intake 2. oil catch can 3. exhaust for a lil more HP 😎
I own a 2015 challenger sxt. The 3.6 originally called the Phoenix now called the pug. So this engine is a beast. This engine is stronger than the 5.7. From the dealership any of them you can change 2 gears Top gear and overall gear ratio from the RT. Same 2 gears can be swapped from the scat to the RT. ONLY THOSE MODELS HAVE THAT OPTION. I have those 2 gears from a RT in my SXT and yes it stays nose to nose with the RT. Dodge knows this very well. Take the upper and lower intake manifold from a Pacifica and there's your 2nd mod. Install the RT 85mm throttle body 3rd mod. Cold air intake 4th. Exhaust 5th. All together less than $2,200. Now you have a sleeper. With those first 5 you gain around 110hp. Add your tunes to gain an extra 120 hp. 2021 or 2022 Straight 6 turbo is what you'll see in your RTs 425 hp. 5.7 will be gone. Because gen 5.7 hemi is a nightmare and a horrible design flows through out that engine. From the tube above the crank and the valleys beside the intakes traps oil never lubes correctly which is why cams need to be replaced pistons get destroyed the injectors to syphon the trapped oil suck ass. But the 3.6 has so much potential and strength that dodge realized they oops big time making this engine because they built a 6cyl that is better and faster than the 5.7.
Can you explain to me what is it called to get those 2 gears from the dealer. Also how can those 2 gears from a RT fit on a SXT if it’s not the same automatic transmission? What are the 2 gears part numbers and how much is it? You mentioned change the 2 gears from a RT to the SXT why not get the 2 gears from the Scat pack to SXT wouldn’t it make it better? What year of the Pacifica and part numbers we need to get for the upper and lower intake manifold also how much are those parts? How can you install a RT 85MM throttle body to a SXT if it’s not the same engine? You mentioned that adding 5 mods will gain around 110HP. I don’t think by adding those 2 gears will gain any HP. Also there’s video’s about people swapping the newer version of the upper and lower intake manifold and they felt no HP gains only better response. There is no 85MM throttle body for the 3.6 V6 only a 78MM or 80MM and you might just gain like 5 to 10HP. The cold air intake is well known on TH-cam of people not noticing any gains of HP only better sound and response. Same thing with the exhaust no gains just a profile sound. So I don’t know where are you getting 110HP gain with these 5 mods and a tune that will additionally add another extra 120 HP all this for $2200 like you said. I think the cost is way more than that plus labor, tax etc. I don’t understand what you are trying to say about 2021 and 2022 straight 6 turbo on RT’s 425HP. The RT’s never had a straight 6 turbo only a V8 Hemi.
12:01 I bought a 2023 sxt blacktop and put borla exhaust and afe cold air intake on it, 0 to 60 in 5.6 quarter mile in 14.7..being 68 years old these new V6 engines run almost identical to the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s and that's good enough for me and my car sounds really good now. I've owned Corvettes with less horsepower and slower times. I'm very satisfied
I bought a V6 Ram after owning 3 hemi Rams. 99 percent of the time I never miss the power...but sometimes I do. I had a new Ranger and you could add 60-80hp with a $400-$500 tuner. That thing was a riot but just too small for my needs. There's really no cheap path to make significantly more power from a Pentastar. I've priced intakes and throttle bodies and coil packs and tunes and it would take thousands of dollars to make hemi power at the cost of a voided warranty and loss of long term reliability. She's staying stock.
Hey brother love your channel. I just bought a 2015 Challenger 392 SRT with only 1381 miles on it. Flew up to Minnesota and drove it back to Florida the last two days. This car is bad ass, doesn't need any mods mechanically!!! I am living the dream in this car. Keep up the good content brother.
I used to have a v6 and they are fun, plus better on gas. I love my v8 but this hemi loves the gas station...lol With that being said more and more companies are starting to make performance parts for the pentastar so you can have fun modding it.
I agree. Couldn't afford the V8 unless I got a high milage car. Love my v6, but I'm ready to pay it off so I can get the V8. Wish I had just splurged for the 5.7 hemi
Right now you can only get an all-wheel-drive challenger in V6 that’s what I got and where I live the streets are covered in ice right now the all-wheel-drive challenger handles great but in a world with Lancer evolutions and Subaru STI‘s cruising the frozen streets with their all wheel drive if one of them gaps you you’re being laughed at and told your car is a piece of garbage after pudding A ripp supercharger in my V6 pushes more than 400 wheel horsepower and the torque is over 360. Properly installed and maintained your supercharger will last the life of the engine. I’ve had it on for a year so far and no problems just sad guys in 4 Bangerz who can’t keep up. Lots of guys have modify their V6 without any problems and you don’t have to go completely overboard with it.
Love my SXT!! Challenger has always been in my family from my pops owning a 71 Challenger, saw first hand how many time we got pulled over for speeding back in the day.... so yeah just happy for now with my Challenger sxt!! Great video!!
Just letting everyone know that Peugeot and FCA merged so the new company is called Stellantis so who knows what’s going to happen with the Pentastar and Hemi. So now back to this video the V6 has always been around with the V8’s since the early pony wars. It’s always been the same in sales terms back then and still now. The Big three sold the most V6’s than V8’s not everyone is a street racer or drag racer. A Challenger V6 Pentastar to boost cost about 6k to 8k with a Ripp Supercharger gives you 425WHP+ and a Prodigy Twin Turbo gives you 506WHP. That’s more than a stock ScatPack which gives you 331WHP plus a Scatpack 6.4 is not cheap to modify for boosting, to play it safe and get the increased power you have to do forged internals, intake exhaust etc, but you will still have to be careful because 6.4 Hemi doesn’t take boosting kindly your asking “the more power, the more things than can break”. You will have to upgrade to a Hellcat or a Demon to get more WHP power and don’t worry about all that modifying on a Scatpack. But all V8’s regardless you will still spend more money on modifying, gas, maintenance repairs, insurance, car payments. Plus the V6 Pentastar Challenger takes boost better and will still be reliable. Boosting the V6 Pentastar you will still save money on mods, gas, maintenance repairs, insurance and car payments. I understand it won’t sound like a V8 but that’s an easy fix just install a Borla ATTAK to get a nice profile sound and still have the looks of a bad ass last of its kind modern muscle cruiser car built today.
Boosting a v8 on 6-7 lbs of boost safely will have the same results. You can get slightly more boost out of the v6 because the rods come forged from the factory. The scat pack does fine depending on the years it was produced to the ring gapping and spacing on the piston. The 5.7 loves boost and nitrous. Every car can be modded to what you want but to compare reliability and pricing that is really hard because there are so many factors. The 5.7 and 6.4 are not hard to cam and tune and you can make around the same hp as a ripp. That is also dependent on the cam and all that but still. And dont get me started on prodigy lol
I saw some people brought up the price being better and some other people saying it almost the same. Well I looked for a charger for an about 3 months and I got a 2014 dodge charger se with 84k miles for 10k, if there was a 5.7 that had 80-90k miles, it was at least 16-20k, some people don’t have a lot of money, and I wanted to pay my car off immediately, I can happily say that I bought a v6 charger and never had to worry about a car payment, I’m 18 with a car I love and no debt, and I can keep saving for a 5.7 while having a daily driver that I love and learning how to drive and handle a sports car from a vehicle that is a lot easier to control. Why do people feel like they have to constantly judge other peoples cars, like trucks with big lift, I really don’t care for them and they have a lot of money in useless mods, but I can respect that that is what they like and they enjoy modding and driving those trucks. If someone wants to drive a v6, so what why’s it your business. I saw someone complaining about them racing them, so what. If you have a vehicle faster than it just beat them get another win under your belt, if you can’t beat a v6 charger shut your mouth.
I have a AWD 450hp v6 challenger I didn't get the 392 or RT because it snows where I live I wanted AWD.. so I got the v6 with plans of modding it, you are a v8 guy I respect that but this was a long video basically you saying say we appreciate v6s because they pay the bills but you guys should sit on the sidelines and watch everyone else be fast annddd fuck that lol ... attitudes like this are the reason there are no big mopar v6 car channels I will continue to mod my v6 and posting it on my channel its a car when you mod it shit breaks fix it and keep pushing 🤝🏿
Wonderful explanation and I couldn't agree more with you more. I personally think that dodge/FCA did really well with the engine and trims. The v6's are fantastic for letting people get into the cars and have some fun. The srt's are at a great price to give you more power then you can get out of the v6's for a better price then going the power upgrade way. The hellcats/demons/redeyes are great for those how can afford and want that power more then the v6/6.4's can offer for the same price in mods. If you need more then that, a slightly modified 1000hp hellcat like Xcesiv is very achievable. And let's not forget how absolutely insane 1000hp truly is. (I also kinda feel the same way about chevy/ford.) All in all I think this past decade has been one of the largest automotive reforms for the absolute better (that 100% includes E.V.s in my oppion) Take care X. As always, Keep Smiling
From what dodge has been putting out and for a few 3rd party companies there are people ranking up over 300k miles on these 3.6 engines and they are building them detuned so they have higher engine longevity
I bought my sxt last week and it’s super fun to drive smooth and I probably will modify the exhaust and the diffuser to make it look like the GT and the intake manifold that’s all I need. I appreciate your input and advice.
Rewatching this after I had to give up my dream Challenger RT premium. The cost of living had put me slave to my car. I reinvested in a Charger Rallye v6, and I'm really enjoying the experience. Nothing compares to the hemi. But this is a fair backup deal.
My first Mopar was a 2012 3.6 challenger. It was smooth felt quick on the highway it was a very nice looking car. One thing that bothered me was the sound of the 3.6 v6 does not match the size of the vehicle at all. No matter which exhaust system I've listened too the v6 always sounded to tiny for me. I traded it in and got a 2014 challenger rt and it was every thing I loved about the v6 but with AMAZING torque and the Hemi sounds perfect with this big vehicle I'm now in a 2014 charger rt max and it still brings me joy to stomp on the gas and feel that hemi slam me in my seat. If you get the v6 enjoy it and tune out the haters most people that gave me shit about having a v6 were people who owned non performance cars, raggedy cars, or no car at all
I feel like for challengers the awd one is the best to mod I have a 2021 challenger gt hellraisin and have a ripp supercharger, bbk 80mm throttled body, k & n cold air intake, pully system, custom tunes, and more mods etc. And was able to absolutely destroy 392's , 5.0's, , and camaro ss's from digs (due to the awd challenger being able to launch off the line amazingly quicker) . 30 and 40 rolls depends tbh because the 10 speed automatic 5.0 are fast asf lol but if you want a good answer as to whether you should mod any of these I would highly recommend anyone that wants to mod the 3.6 pentastar to go with the awd challenger if they want to achieve 500 whp like I am.
I had the 12 charger sxt and I loved it, I even changed my own plugs and coil pack and it was super easy. Great daily driver I'd say no work needed tbh
My recommended mod on those engines will be porting cylinder heads which I did on my 3,8L Dodge Grand Caravan. It cost almost nothing but you definitely feel the change.
I got a 2013 Charger SE. I have a CAI, RIPP's coil packs, 80mm throttle body, pypes performance exhaust, 93 octane tune & a roar pedal so far. I've had it for 3 years & no major issues at all. I aint in a rush to get a 6.1 or 6.4 so I'll enjoy what I have & continue to create a bad ass v6. Folks can talk their shit about v6's all day but who cares 🤷🏾♂️ Modding my car has been worth every penny to me. I'm literally a RIPP supercharger away from making my baby a REAL sleeper & never hearing "v6 cHaRgErS aRe sLoW" again lol ..Even though I don't think any vehicle with 300+ wheel hp is slow. Then again... I've never driven a SRT 😂 #RespectThe6
My only comment is to each its own , I personally have seen quite a few v6 builds walk fly by and walk down lightly modded scat packs so like racer x said all depends on how far you wanna go just for a forged 3.6 alone cost 7200
I love my Challenger SXT Plus it’s a fast car in my book, If I wanted faster car I would just get a RT. I don’t understand why people do the most to there V6’s.
Couldn't agree with you more Xi bought my wife an SE base charger in 15 and the only thing I've done to it is a cane in air filter Really reliable over 62000 miles no issues
Real simple. Buy a v8 for 8000 more. Or a v6 with a $3k turbo and get more hp oh and better gas mileage. Nothing will beat a v8 sound but Supra’s and skylines have proven v6s can do more than keep up. I won’t get started on EVs. The old saying, there’s no replacement for displacement is just that, old. A RT charger makes 370hp and 395ft. Lbs. weighs 4,291 lbs. A V6 makes 300hp and 296 ft. Lbs. weighs 3,964 lbs. Add a Borg Warner turbo for $2100 and add roughly 170 actual hp (kits say 250hp gain but that’s with a crazy boost and compression, not practical for everyday use).I’ve saved $5000 weigh roughly 300lbs less and I still get much better gas mileage then that RT that was 8k more. Oh and there’s a twin turbo v6 charger out there pushing 507hp that costs half of a scat pack. Stop shitting on V6s
Grabbed me the 2018 vr charger gt plus AWD is what sold me lots and lots of snow where I'm at turning it into a racecar not for me a badass family sedan heck yea cold air maybe knock out the mid muffler other then that make the exterior your own 🔥
Another excellent video! I think the DOHC 3.6 Pentastar is an excellent engine. I have driven a Ram 1500 that had one. It was pretty capable. With that though, my personal opinion is, at least for these cars, the good old fashioned push rod 5.7 /R/T as the starting trim. I'll admit I'm personally biased towards the Challenger. In my mind the V6 just doesn't compute for that car. IMO the 392 is the optimal choice. I'd certainly not pass up a 5.7 though. Push rod engines will give you that low end torque, while you'll need to rev that DOHC 3.6 allot higher. I think that's why a 5.7 will get the drop on a 3.6 NA every time. Have an awesome weekend Racer X!
@@RacerX9 I totally agree. When making a purchase decision, I'd think it would be wise to just save for an R/T trim. You get what you pay for still applies. 🤘
Yes, the 3.6 pentastar can be tuned with HP Tuners and you will aquire 40hp&40tq with a experience tuner who does 3.6's go for Demigod or Livernois. That's at the wheels! Not bullshit. Plenty of power for the street!
I had a 2018 Challenger SXT for 7 months and ultimately wasn't happy with it. It had a Borla Atak Cat back exhaust system and an AFE intake. I sold that a couple of weeks ago and got a 2020 R/T Challenger. So much better!
As an owner of a 2014 V6 Mustang that I modded, I can tell you from a financial perspective it isn't worth it. I supercharged mine and it makes about 420 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno. It will run anywhere from a 12.2 to 12.5 depending on the density altitude. The car will run 12.2s when the DA is less than 1000 and 12.5s will be the ETs in 3000+ DA. The times are respectable and the car is fairly quick for what it is. If I had to do it all over gain, I would have bought the Mustang GT in 2014 and with bolt ons, it would have cost about the same and the ETs would be similar. The Mustang GT holds its value far better than the V6. A heavily modded car actually depreciates faster in value than when it is stock. If I had to do it all over I would have bought the V8. If I would mod my V6 Mustang knowing what I know now, I would have gone with a turbo because turbos are more efficient and the car would be about 3/4 of a second quicker in the quarter mile. When it comes to modding V6s the Camaro and Mustangs are better to mod than Chargers, Challengers, and Chrysler 300s. The Mopars are heavy and the biggest weakness of the Pentastar is low end torque. Camaros and Mustang weigh 3,400 to 3600 pounds depending on how they're equipped versus about 4000 pounds for the Mopars. There is more aftermarket support for the V6 Fords and Chevys than there is for the Mopars. Mopars start at about a 400 pound deficit versus the Mustangs and Camaros. The design of the engine is also an obstacle for the Pentastar because the exhaust manifold is part of the cylinder head. You can't put long tube headers on the Pentastar. Because of the exhaust manifold design of the Pentastar, it doesn't lend itself to turbo charging. The exhaust manifold for the Pentastar is very restrictive and the pressure on the hot side would be very high increasing the likelihood of burning valves. The V6 Mopars have open differentials while Camaros and Mustangs come with limited slip differentials. Mopar offers a very limited selection of gear ratios. You can supercharge the Pentastar with a Ripp or Sprintex kit. It will drive like a stock V6 at low RPM and will be sluggish out of the hole. The supercharged V6 just won't perform like a V8 and mod for mod the gap between the V8 and V6 grows. You can overcome the horsepower deficit of the V6 with boost. However, there is a good chance you will stretch the head bolts and you'll end up with coolant in the cylinders. Based on my experience, don't mod any V6, especially the Pentastar. If you supercharge the Pentastar by the time your done, you will spend at least R/T money. The R/T is a far better platform than the Pentastar V6. If you want performance, the Scat Pack is the best value for the money if you want a Mopar. If all you can afford is the V6, buy it, add a few appearance mods and enjoy it. The Pentastar is a good, reliable engine for a daily driver. If you must mod something with less than 8 cylinders, mod an Ecoboost Mustang. For less than $30,000, you can buy the car, add about $3,000 in performance mods, and easily run deep into the 12s.
@@nightmare3.7cyclone24 - When it comes to elapsed times, weather conditions and location also factors. The times I provided were under normal conditions. If I used negative density altitudes and/or raced at sea level, my times would be faster. I'm sure it's possible to get 12.4 all motor. If you were able to do that, the times you ran would put you in the top 10 for a naturally aspirated V6 Mustang. I prefer my set up because of what you'd have to do to get a 3.7 Mustang to run 12.4s on all motor. I race with a full interior and I don't use skinnies. I haven't done any weight reduction and it is fully equipped right down to the power seats and Shaker sound system. It has the performance package that adds more weight. My car is running low boost so it is still reliable. If they had E-85 available in my part of the country, my car would be .3 to .4 of a second quicker. If I increased boost, reduced weight, and installed long tubes I could get the car to run mid 11s. However, my car would no longer be enjoyable to drive. It's a nice cruiser that has power when I want it. It's a matter of what you want.
Exhaust, cai, tune and V6 should be right with the RT. Sometimes folks just want a lil zip every now n then. Not tryna line up like we racing for money. Passing speed and maybe an occasional stop light run every now n then. Nothing like driving a V8 due to that torque but the gas sucks! Lol can’t do it as a daily driver again
I still love my 2014 Charger R/T. She's still a head turner ( Header Orange) paint immaculate 76K on the odometer new headers K&N Air Intake and a tune. She's no slouch ask the sucker in the BMW M3 who tried me.
I have a 2016 Dodge Charger SE and I can say it’s not the fastest but it’s a fun car to drive. I raced a duramax same year as mine on a 30 he didn’t pull off till over 70 mph, raced a Rt from 80 and he was a car an half in front and I was topped out at 120. Overall it’s not a bad car to have fun with in my opinion.
Remember everyone. Hotroding is about YOUR CAR, YOUR VISION.. Don't listen to others, build what you want or can!! This comes from the mechanic of the FASTEST 3.8 S.B.E. full-body 2015 Challenger!! Be unique in life, anyone can buy a v8 but how many walk the big three at will? Lol..... How manybof us can stalk selected Maserati cars, open our hoods just to reveal the same motor. The pentastar in 100% stock firm will swallow 200hp of power adder. In a healthy motor your first failure will be head gaskets, headbolts, then pistons around the 580-630hp mark. Then about every rod will twist at 600+ mark. You can easily fix all this with the great folks at prodigy.
I see plenty of tuned v6s putting down power it’s common now let’s face it no matter what trim mopar u get at some point something is getting modded maybe not the hellcats but everything else below
The price is the difference bud. People aren’t buying the 3.6 for the sound, power or anything a v6 has that a v8 doesn’t. They are mainly getting it for the price. If it was your wallet you would Maybe consider common sense.
@Tony Wolf Too bad they don't make a rear wheel drive Honda Accord. Hell with a front wheel drive, i won't own one. I drive 140 miles per day in a Charger SXT, I love it.
Tony Wolf are you that ignorant? Get a real muscle car with a v8...until you get passed in your outdated r/t by a supercharged v6 that cost less as a whole including with the supercharger price included...if you have the funds to get a v8, of course go with the v8. But if you don’t have the extra 6K to spend for an outdated engine or 10k for a nicer v8 then the v6 is plenty to have fun and even beat v8s when supercharged.
@@conorfinlay6653 People don't like to understand that a ripp is supercharger combined with the price of the sxt is literally less if not the same worst case scenario slightly more than a R/T. However its cheaper than the scatpack, has more HP than the R/T leaving you with more money so spend if you save or decide to get something in between a r/t / scat pack. PS. to everyone. the sxt has more HP than the original muscle cars. I'll pass on any imports and go with dodge. the manufacturer that uses the most american made parts in the car industry. sorry ford/chevy
Great info! I gave my daughter my 2016 charger since she started driving this year. She wanted a louder exhaust so I put a better exhaust in there but I also wanted to install the following as well: Cold Air Intake, larger throttle body, Accel coil packs, and iridium spark plugs. Do you think these would make a difference in performance? I don’t want her car to be extremely fast, just maybe improve the performance a little but nothing drastic. She doesn’t drive the car like a maniac as my wife and I have the Life 360 app and monitor her driving but sometimes I still drive the car. 😂
By the v6 get used to the car and if you need more power trade in the future. You support FCA to develop other trims, has some nice experience with this sport and luxury cars, have some fun driving, save gas and stands out from the average cruise cars and drivers in the market. I love my V6!
I have the 2019 GT Challenger RWD ... This baby flys 💪 305HP is me pulling off on everybody at a green light.. any faster would be extinction of speed 🤣
Should’ve just been ended at the fact an R/T runs you roughly 6-7k more MSRP (Base Model) than a V6 the price of a supercharger, for more power, better fuel economy, and lower maintenance costs. Now if you don’t want to mod and have a warranty get a v8 and enjoy what you drive.
I got a 300S a few months ago and I absolute love it. Will I mod it? Probably, air intake, maybe lowering springs, I'm doing an exhaust cut out because I also love how quiet it is at times but sometimes I want a little growl.
I just bought a single cab short box dodge ram with the 3.6, not because I couldnt afford a hemi but because I wanted better fuel ecomomy and 305 hp in a single cab truck is more then adequate.
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If everybody could afford a v8, everybody would have a v8. I’d really appreciate those with v8’s to stop talking down on those with v6’s. A vehicle is a vehicle. Yours makes more power! Good job👏🏾👍🏾
It's literally a couple grand more. It cost less for the rt than it does to supercharge or turbo and tune your car. Fact of the matter is. People buy a v6. Spend all their money on stupid shit and all that money coulda gotten an 8. Almost every v6 driver is certified rice in their "mods" they'll spend thousands on wraps Amazon wings and stickers and louvers and shit. Fact of the matter is if you can't afford a race car. Then you shouldn't be going after one. Like the guy said. It's a daily. Its got a little bit of power. And it's less expensive than a foreign car and better reliable than most foreign cars especially for power in price range. 25k is a Camry. A charger is way nicer and the motor is just as reliable
Kyle Alton I think you are right but some people just live in bad weather conditions, and v6 is awd
@@kylealton4347 I hear you, but going from $29,995 to $36,995 has a major effect when we’re talking about financing. That’s a $500 car note VS a $700-$800 note. I respect what you’re saying and agree to a degree, but everyone can’t afford the hemi and a lot of people like the style of the car. I got lucky and got a 2020 GT for $25,000 thanks to COVID.
@@marcuslawson6800 that is a good deal. But I also know that they can get a few years older rather than buying a car brand new. I mean gas is always an excuse. But if they can't afford gas why are they buying a new car? It's nothing more than a mix between instaclout, ignorance, misplaced trust towards used cars, and fulfilling their ego with getting something new. Now they'll also use the warranty or maintenance plan as an excuse. But most early maintenance services and costs are due to the break in period and nothing other than battery changes and oil changes should really be happening until 50-80k miles. Idk who drives that in 4 years. Not to mention there's full warranty plans for used cars even that are multi tiered to fit budget and go up to a lifetime and can be customized to support aftermarket parts and these warranty plans are less expensive than most dealer warranties unless it's free with signing during some special promotional event. Basically the people I see, and I am talking through personal experience through my own eyes, buy a brand new 6cyl muscle car usually aren't doing anything big with their life. And they always have those same excuses. Like gets better gas mileage. Or the v8 was just more expensive ect.
People act like this is new. How many mid-60's nova's, camaro's and chevelles came with a 6 cylinder and are updated 30 years later.?
While I usually enjoy your videos, I have to take exception to the condensing tone of this video. I'm 65 years old and have been going to the dragstrip since the early 70's. One thing that I always loved about drag racing and cruising in general is that there was always a place for everyone, regardless of the type of car you chose to run. I raced a 65 Chevy Impala Super Sport with a swapped in 427 and Muncie 4 spd as my first strip car and daily cruiser. Because of the high level of competition in the large V8 classes, I had limited success at Englishtowns Raceway Park. As my Impala was being repaired, I bought a used Chevy Vega with a 4 cyl and 4 spd, to drive around while I spent my free time working on the Impala. One weekend, while waiting on head work for my main ride, we went to the dragstrip just to watch, in the Vega. Racing wasn't busy for some reason and just for kicks, we ran the Vega. I still have that old faded time slip for its first run...18.563 @ 78 mph 😳 . After that run, we took out the spare tire and all the other junk, and I advanced the timing 4 degrees. We knocked a full second off our time and added 1 mph.
Well, I was hooked. It wasn't long before I sold the Impala and started racing the little Vega every weekend. 4 barrel manifolds, headers, HEI ignition, etc...
Because we changed to bracket racing, I had more success in that little Vega, then I ever had in the Big Block Impala and it was a lot more fun. Plus we had to innovate a lot because not many people were racing Vegas.
My point is, Hotrodding has ALWAYS welcomed Everyone, regardless of what you were running. Just because you have a V8, doesn't make you "King of the Hill". Lots of people race 6 cylinders and 4 cylinders, it all depends on what you get into and what draws you to Cruising and Racing.
Your video would have been much better served, if you had actually shown what is available to the V6 crowd, what the best "Bang for the Buck" mods are, whats available, etc...
Last weekend, I traded in my 2018 Mustang GT for a 2020 Dodge Challenger SXT, having done a lot of research on the Pentastar V6 and the Challenger in general. I bought it so that I could take my 2 teenage children with me when I go cruising and in the future, to the dragstrip. I had the money for a Scat Pack, but dismissed it because I wanted a base trim level so I could build it the way I wanted. The only addition I added was the Premium Sound System with Navigation, because I wanted to have decent tunes while I planned out my project. I now enjoy taking the Wife and Kids cruising around the beach cities of Florida.
I think you do some great videos and have enjoyed watching them, but remember, it would be a boring sport and hobby if everyone showed up to the track in Hellcats, SS Camaros and Mustang GTs. Diversity makes the sport and everyone's is welcome.
Cool mate I agree 💯! Do you know what else is available for mods for the 3.6 Pentastar. Other than the mods we all already know like cold air intake, full exhaust system, ported upper and lower intake manifold, 80MM throttle body, RIPP coil packs, RIPP supercharger.
Such a true statement, I'm tired of seeing the same builds over and over time for someone to try something different
Bullseye ... !
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Would LOVE to have a Hemi powered Dodge, but until they return those to AWD trims, I’m stuck with a V6. Some of us have to deal with harsh weather that rear wheel drive only cars struggle with.
Exactly why I picked up my V6 the AWD capabilities
Same reason I'm looking at one as well. Looked at the jeeps cause I like them from my experience with my 2002 I have. But they are about 5k more than a challenger.
If it's snow your talking about, with a good set of cables the scat behaves pretty well, as long as your not getting on it rough and are driving responsibly.
IF, you buy for practicality and reliability, then yes, I agree with almost everything you said, however, where I think you miss is for those who buy because they can't afford the higher trims. Seems we sometimes look at it as a total sum up front. Spend 35K on the already fast car, or spend 35K on a slow car and all the mods for it, (hence all the 'you shoulda just bought a x') but it doesn't work that way. Sometimes people don't have that money to borrow or put out up front. The mods are spread out over what can be years sometimes. So for them, I say yes, if the V6 is all you could get, and you don't care for a smooth reliable car, and care more about going as fast as you can, mod the hell out of it. I was one of those people, it took me 20 years to finally get an "SRT level" (not an SRT, don't want to start a fight here lol) car in my 1320. Before now, I just had to make do with what I could afford or what the banks said I could afford. Sometimes that meant modding up cars or trucks that most people would say is stupid to mod up.
Very well said brother👍
I fully agree .. affordability plays a massive part in why so many V6 cars are sold.. nothing wrong with getting what you can comfortably afford and enjoying it 👍
I have a v6 loved it wen i first got it but now im ready for that scatpack
Tbh I’ll rather mod a Chrysler 300, it just looks so fun and you can do some simple mods to it
I wouldnt mind the awd v6 challenger. Driving all season and while still has some punch. 😎👍
For sure.. something to be said about the AWD cars being versatile
You can get the v8
RacerX Go drive the JEEP Wrangler with the turbo and pentastar!!! It’s nearly the same performance and way more fun of a daily!!!
I love my scat pack but every time I hop in the jeep I just smile and half the time I pull the top down.
450hp awd challenger 🤝🏿
@@chadhanson4369 A turbo on a Pentastar? What model is that? I find that very hard to believe considering the headers are molded into the engine block.
I have a 2008 Dodge Charger SXT with the 3.5L V6. Its a nice comfortable ride and it has made me change my views on getting an older muscle car. I like the car for what it offers. It was priced right. It looks awesome. A V8 would have been great, but would have cost much more than I was willing to spend at the time. Now that I have the money to upgrade, I am considering what is best for my family. Wanted an SRT8 Challenger and opted for a V6 Charger. At 44 years old, I no longer feel the need to do 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. But, if i feel the need to punch it on the highway... I will get there quicker than most. Or at least most of the cars I remember when I was younger... Runs the same 1/4 mile time as my neighbors 95 Chevy Impala SS. But I always hear that I should have bought an RT, SRT or Hellcat... you can't please everyone. Just get what makes you happy and enjoy it.
The RIPP supercharger is a great kit for those V6 charger/challenger, they make some good power
You beat me to it
Yes they do.. just be ready to upgrade the transmission, drivetrain, fuel system, and do a couple of cooling mods .. and don’t exceed 7lbs without tearing the engine down and increasing the ring gap at minimum.. can be a lot more costly than people think 👍
@@RacerX9 Ripp did their homework on the v6. They are still very reliable with the supercharger and you don't have to do anything after the supercharger kit unless you want more power. But for it to be supercharged you can daily it and have more fun in it. Ripp has tested and proving it to still be reliable. But if your going to the track all the time and ruff on it all the time yes it will need to be built to handle it. But my SXT plus has 70,000 miles on it and it is mostly stock and still runs like a top and fun still to drive. When I'm on the road working I sit there think of a Scat pack or a Hellcat to replace the SXT but then when I'm home and get in the SXT I fall in love with it all over again.
@@TruckerSaLer You don't need any supporting mods when installing the RIPP, but it would be good for peace of mind. I put 20 inch rims with some sticky Firehawks, and she handles totally different now.
@@RacerX9 friendly neighborhood v6 owner here... just fyi @6:00 you mention headers but these engines have the exhaust manifold integrated into the engine. You can't put headers on it. Correct me if I'm wrong
I have a 2016 300C AWD V6 and I love it. Not a race car, but does get out of its own way. Amazing cruiser, smooth, quiet and does all that in the snow.
I have V6 18 Challenger SXT Plus.. Just added Mangaflow exhaust/ K&N Cold Air/ Front Lip kit/ 20% Tint and it drives fast and smooth on the highway.. (over 110 mph easily 🤫)
My stock 2020 hits 120
@@danielbrown9983 I max out at 136 mph
Hey!... Put in a roar peddle... Great!
Somebody in a stock v8 is gonna fuck your day up one day lmfaoo no kap
watch out for me in a stock 3k bike who has low 3 second 0-60. i can beat all u car people
The GT and SXT come with AWD while the other trims don’t, making the decision for those who live in worse conditions a lot simpler.
I'm glad you came up with this video because the truth must be told. Even if the 3.6 is more high-tech than a hemi , Chrysler just wanted that engine to be bread and butter.
Absolutely.. solid platform for base model 👍
3.6 is the bread. Hemi is the butter
I have the v6 300S AWD & I enjoy it, my question I remember seeing a TH-cam video saying if one would remove the filter and cut a hole in the housing to increase more air in it will boost the performance by how much?
@@g67early no clue. not gonna f something up though. ill stick to my exhaust and tune and supercharger
@@BoRNShadow yes I hear you. I feel the same
I have a 2019 300 just like that one ,I put a Drop in K&N air filter in it and also did a Resonator delete with 2 small 1 chamber Flow Monster mufflers. Sounds good, a little bit more pickup,fuel mileage actually went up @ 3 mpgs average all for less than $200 ,Cant beat it .
I have a 2012 300 (base).
I want a bit of sound and power. But don’t want to cause any engine lights and such.
Should I consider doing this as well?
@@Lehjet Honestly yeah, K&N air filter with just a muffler delete or a aftermarket muffler is a nice cheap combo you can do easily. Adding a Strut bar helps a lot with the handling without doing expensive coil overs, plus you can easily do the install at home
I've got a 16 I put a k&n cold air in, was looking for some extra cheap pickups to add, thanks, also, think u could upload a video on how it sounds?
That's a very honest, realistic look at the V6 lineup from Mother Mopar. You made a good point on using the V6s as a platform for more "show" mods than "go" mods. There were some great examples of just that at the Mopar Meet in the Mountains in Gatlinburg back in June.
I’ve always had fast cars and kinda felt lame for buying a 300 with a v6 , good to hear you describe the cars and what they’re meant for in the way you did
Same here bro lol but F dem we outchea ✊🏾
Great video! Glad to see some love to some of us V6 folk. But that is true when I bought my challenger at 23 the Sxt was all I could afford. Fast forward to now I’m 29 and in Hellcat territory looking to pull the trigger very soon. However I kinda want to keep my Sxt as my daily cruiser.
Good stuff.. yes the SXT is the perfect daily 👍
A car is a car don't let nobody take yo joy in what u drive
Exactly! I'm 48. I just purchased an sxt, and I'm not trying to make the traveling roads a drag strip. But, later, if I wanted to boost the power and output of my ride, there is that option. Back when I was growing up, I owned a couple of old-school classic and antique cars that I modified; one was a 66 impala, and the other a 77 pontiac grand prix with a 88 oldsmobile engine...both were stolen. At any rate, I grew up going to car shows with my dad where vehicle mechanical components (engine and all) would be totally chromed out with mirrors beneath to see it all, we would also go to drag strips and go to the pit and mechanics were proud to tell you about their mods, they feel, that gave them an edge. As you said, all engine classes were accepted. There's nothing wrong with buying a fully tuned V-8 that's ready to go to the strip right off the showroom floor, but you bought it like that and had no involvement with how it performs, so you can't brag about it! My dad was a street racer in his youth and always kept a classic car in the driveway when I was growing up that he constantly tuned. A lot of my friends and I did the same, and it was normal for you not to let others see what you had under the hood. Modifications are synonymous with the muscle car industry! That's most of the fun! To be called a grease monkey used to be a badge of honor and to brag about what you did to make your car faster gave you real clout. But now you mostly have people who know little about cars and are buying all their muscle ready-to-go, but want to talk down to others with v6 or other stock engines. Please!
Great video x, I agree have fun moding whatever car you want. Just keep those expectations realistic and have fun.
Facts
I agree. The V6 is a great car and I don't think it's worth the cash to mod. Not enough bang for the buck. I live in New England and daily a 2018 Challenger GT AWD. It's so fun to drive, good on gas, is a beast in the snow, and makes me smile every time I get behind the wheel. Great video.
Nothing wrong with that my friend 👍
Book says 300HP for 2018 GT AWD.....during test drive and transit from dealer back to home I hit 307 for a couple of seconds during acceleration. What’s weird is that normal cruise even running around 70-75MPH after hitting 8th gear and level surface the HP gauge was indicating about 40-60HP......and still getting high 20’s MPG.
Tough to argue with 25-30 MPG and comfortable smooth ride. Leather, heated....includes steering wheel, NAV, Ventilated seats, SIRIUSXM radio, split folding rear seats etc.....
Originally was looking for R/T HEMI but C/V took to long and not overly transparent with reason for delay....Ironically about two hours after I canceled the order I got another delay message. GT was three mode years newer and almost 30K less miles. Only thing I lost from the R/T was the HEMI, 20’s ( GT has same wheels but 19”) and Moonroof.....ph wait one more thing the GT had for advantage.....in stock and immediately available.
Never put down the little guy. Im older and have the v6 because of gas and reliability as well as easier to work on. Looks good , drives good and runs as good as some of the considered performance cars did in my younger days. I like the looks of it as well. You dont always have to be dangerous and waste tires for enjoyment. Things change as you get older. And if you want to know the definition of high performance , it is , performs better than average for what it is.
Im sure i already commented on this video but I love how racerx always takes time to mention how it doesn't matter which trim/engine you get.
I love this. I have a 2020 charger sxt because it was affordable. I crunched the numbers and would be paying $400 for insurance and $1060 for monthly compared to what i pay now. Plus i make $13h so yea I got in where I fit in. I always get crap like " just buy a v8, your car sucks, if you cant afford a v8 then don't buy a charget" like it's my money and if I want to buy a v6 and mod it overtime, then I will. I'm happy with mine. Plus it sounds great. Will post video of my new muffler in a few.
Try a cold air intake for your Chrysler 300, I have one on my 2013 300C, and it makes a significant improvement in throttle response, passing power, and sound! Well worth the money !
what brand intake did you go with?
Love my 300 luxury No need for anything else Still turn heads regardless
The 300’s are great 👍
Agreed. I have a 2016 300C AWD...beautiful looking and driving vehicle.
Love my 300. 2013 300s Glacier edition. AWD with the 5.7.
Great video! I just installed the Pedal Commander (easy install...plug and play) to my V6 Challenger to get a more sporty feel (not designed ro increase horsepower or torque). However, it gets off the line quicker and eliminates that slow throttle delay completely when set to sport plus mode. It also gives it a little better sound with the intake and exhaust system. I like the v6, and it's fun to drive, but I still want to get the srt in the not too distant future 😁.
For sure my friend.. gotta make it fun and unique for your individual tastes
Don't forget us truck guys!! That's the best money spent. These trucks have a 1/2 second delay in throttle apply.
Any other mods you did to your challenger? Got one, need suggestions
Nice Video Review! I really like to see more Chrysler 300 Reviews on your Channel! Show more love and support to the 300 Community!
I will see what I can do my friend 🤜🔥
Dodge won't let him. The 300 is a Chrysler.
I had a V6.... bought a Borla ATAK exhaust.. cold air intake... RIPP Supercharger... just wasn’t happy with it ultimately.... bought a SRT 392. Haven’t even started modding it and I’m very pleased with it.
I spent $2500.00 of mods on my sxt, including fogs, custom carpets, classic Challenger font badges, a great K&N to increase the hp somewhere near 330ish (from stock 305 hp ) which also provides a sweet sound to a point where I feel exhaust mods aren't necessary. Finally a set of sport Toyo tires to max fit 245 55 18. Racer is on the money with this review. I couldn't be more pleased with the overall look, sound and performance as non racer enthusiast. Anything more than this needs to skip all those expensive turbo/super chargers and go straight to the RT. in the end, it's cheaper. Great vid man!!
Good stuff my friend
Hey i am in a same boat.... I wanna mod my challenger with a cold air intake....does it really add 30 horses? Can you feel the difference while driving? Does it voids the power train wattanty? Whats the cost? Does it affect the reliability?
@@jayeshjahagirdar9589 hey Jay. I haven't dyno tuned it after I installed the K&N but there's a modest increase of 15 to 20 hp. Getting airflow through with a sport throttle body and resonator deletes can give another 5 to 10hp. It doesnt void the warranty and the gas mileage is slightly better if you dont kick it. I highly suggest you go for. Installation is easy. Cost me around $500 Canadian funds
Ya know... Real racers, real power plant people get turned on by making more power with a smaller motor than everybody else... It is an indication of knowledge
Another great video and I definitely agree. I love my V6 Challenger.
RIPP has been supercharging these 3.6 motors for years - and they remain reliable as well as faster than the 5.7 liter, so no guy, don't agree at all. You can buy the supercharger for around $5500.00, about 3 grand for a proper install, and get more power than the 5.7 - and RIPP has been proven for years to be a bulletproof conversion.
I have a 300S with the 3.6. I ran into a "racer" boy with a obviously built Neon. I've tormented him for weeks trying to get by me. The Pentastar is a gem. Off the line or on the pass, love the power. And it's still stock. Adding an intake and maybe a tune, but you're right. It's the perfect balance 👌
Everything that you can basically do that doesnt require you to rip apart the block i.e. Intake, Exhaust, Tune, etc. will not affect the general performance of the engine itself, once you start changings stuff within the engine, like he said, cams for instance, its Pandora's Box, it will never run the same way ever again, and good luck trying to get a dealer to sell it off. If you want to put a Cold Air on it? go for it, its an interchangeable part, doesnt hurt anything, want a nice exhaust for that deep throaty noise? go for it, its not affecting the engine, but will increase power and torque because and for instance if you put a performance muffler on the Chargers and delete anything that is restrictive, with the exception of the Cats, and straight pipe it, its going to have better air flow all around. The car will breathe better, a long with putting a nice tune on the vehicle, I recommend for the V6s a Diablo 87 Octane Tune, you can do 93, but it might damage the engine over time, as the Pentastars are only built to use the regular gas, not a higher octane. You do this, and your car will drive better. For me for instance I have a 2013 Charger V6 with a Diablo 87 Tune, and a Flowmaster Exhaust, I plan to put on a K&N CAI with an 80mm Throttle Body, all that is interchangeable and will help the car breathe better, if you want to go further, you can do RIPP Coils with the NGK Spark Plugs for a little more WHP but besides that I can push at least 340 in my V6, maybe another 10HP with the cold air should i end up getting it, other than that if you choose to supercharge a V6, your stupid, just get a Hellcat at that point
I just traded in my '09 chevy imapa ltz for a '16 dodge charger sxt. Before I watched this video I watched your other video on your recommendations for mods on V6s. My top 3 mods will def be: 1. cold air intake 2. oil catch can 3. exhaust for a lil more HP 😎
I own a 2015 challenger sxt. The 3.6 originally called the Phoenix now called the pug. So this engine is a beast. This engine is stronger than the 5.7. From the dealership any of them you can change 2 gears Top gear and overall gear ratio from the RT. Same 2 gears can be swapped from the scat to the RT. ONLY THOSE MODELS HAVE THAT OPTION. I have those 2 gears from a RT in my SXT and yes it stays nose to nose with the RT. Dodge knows this very well. Take the upper and lower intake manifold from a Pacifica and there's your 2nd mod. Install the RT 85mm throttle body 3rd mod. Cold air intake 4th. Exhaust 5th. All together less than $2,200. Now you have a sleeper. With those first 5 you gain around 110hp. Add your tunes to gain an extra 120 hp. 2021 or 2022 Straight 6 turbo is what you'll see in your RTs 425 hp. 5.7 will be gone. Because gen 5.7 hemi is a nightmare and a horrible design flows through out that engine. From the tube above the crank and the valleys beside the intakes traps oil never lubes correctly which is why cams need to be replaced pistons get destroyed the injectors to syphon the trapped oil suck ass. But the 3.6 has so much potential and strength that dodge realized they oops big time making this engine because they built a 6cyl that is better and faster than the 5.7.
Can you explain to me what is it called to get those 2 gears from the dealer. Also how can those 2 gears from a RT fit on a SXT if it’s not the same automatic transmission?
What are the 2 gears part numbers and how much is it?
You mentioned change the 2 gears from a RT to the SXT why not get the 2 gears from the Scat pack to SXT wouldn’t it make it better?
What year of the Pacifica and part numbers we need to get for the upper and lower intake manifold also how much are those parts?
How can you install a RT 85MM throttle body to a SXT if it’s not the same engine?
You mentioned that adding 5 mods will gain around 110HP. I don’t think by adding those 2 gears will gain any HP. Also there’s video’s about people swapping the newer version of the upper and lower intake manifold and they felt no HP gains only better response. There is no 85MM throttle body for the 3.6 V6 only a 78MM or 80MM and you might just gain like 5 to 10HP. The cold air intake is well known on TH-cam of people not noticing any gains of HP only better sound and response. Same thing with the exhaust no gains just a profile sound. So I don’t know where are you getting 110HP gain with these 5 mods and a tune that will additionally add another extra 120 HP all this for $2200 like you said. I think the cost is way more than that plus labor, tax etc.
I don’t understand what you are trying to say about 2021 and 2022 straight 6 turbo on RT’s 425HP. The RT’s never had a straight 6 turbo only a V8 Hemi.
12:01 I bought a 2023 sxt blacktop and put borla exhaust and afe cold air intake on it, 0 to 60 in 5.6 quarter mile in 14.7..being 68 years old these new V6 engines run almost identical to the muscle cars of the 60s and 70s and that's good enough for me and my car sounds really good now. I've owned Corvettes with less horsepower and slower times. I'm very satisfied
I bought a V6 Ram after owning 3 hemi Rams. 99 percent of the time I never miss the power...but sometimes I do. I had a new Ranger and you could add 60-80hp with a $400-$500 tuner. That thing was a riot but just too small for my needs. There's really no cheap path to make significantly more power from a Pentastar. I've priced intakes and throttle bodies and coil packs and tunes and it would take thousands of dollars to make hemi power at the cost of a voided warranty and loss of long term reliability. She's staying stock.
Hey brother love your channel. I just bought a 2015 Challenger 392 SRT with only 1381 miles on it. Flew up to Minnesota and drove it back to Florida the last two days. This car is bad ass, doesn't need any mods mechanically!!! I am living the dream in this car. Keep up the good content brother.
Awesome David.. hope your loving that car!
You could buy a house and a v8 owner would say “Why didn’t you stay homeless until you could afford a mansion”
I used to have a v6 and they are fun, plus better on gas. I love my v8 but this hemi loves the gas station...lol With that being said more and more companies are starting to make performance parts for the pentastar so you can have fun modding it.
I agree. Couldn't afford the V8 unless I got a high milage car. Love my v6, but I'm ready to pay it off so I can get the V8. Wish I had just splurged for the 5.7 hemi
Right now you can only get an all-wheel-drive challenger in V6 that’s what I got and where I live the streets are covered in ice right now the all-wheel-drive challenger handles great but in a world with Lancer evolutions and Subaru STI‘s cruising the frozen streets with their all wheel drive if one of them gaps you you’re being laughed at and told your car is a piece of garbage after pudding A ripp supercharger in my V6 pushes more than 400 wheel horsepower and the torque is over 360. Properly installed and maintained your supercharger will last the life of the engine. I’ve had it on for a year so far and no problems just sad guys in 4 Bangerz who can’t keep up.
Lots of guys have modify their V6 without any problems and you don’t have to go completely overboard with it.
Love my SXT!! Challenger has always been in my family from my pops owning a 71 Challenger, saw first hand how many time we got pulled over for speeding back in the day.... so yeah just happy for now with my Challenger sxt!! Great video!!
I just got. 2018 Challenger and love it looking to star a Dodge Challenger Club some day just for the hell of it 😉
Just letting everyone know that Peugeot and FCA merged so the new company is called Stellantis so who knows what’s going to happen with the Pentastar and Hemi. So now back to this video the V6 has always been around with the V8’s since the early pony wars. It’s always been the same in sales terms back then and still now. The Big three sold the most V6’s than V8’s not everyone is a street racer or drag racer.
A Challenger V6 Pentastar to boost cost about 6k to 8k with a Ripp Supercharger gives you 425WHP+ and a Prodigy Twin Turbo gives you 506WHP. That’s more than a stock ScatPack which gives you 331WHP plus a Scatpack 6.4 is not cheap to modify for boosting, to play it safe and get the increased power you have to do forged internals, intake exhaust etc, but you will still have to be careful because 6.4 Hemi doesn’t take boosting kindly your asking “the more power, the more things than can break”. You will have to upgrade to a Hellcat or a Demon to get more WHP power and don’t worry about all that modifying on a Scatpack. But all V8’s regardless you will still spend more money on modifying, gas, maintenance repairs, insurance, car payments. Plus the V6 Pentastar Challenger takes boost better and will still be reliable. Boosting the V6 Pentastar you will still save money on mods, gas, maintenance repairs, insurance and car payments. I understand it won’t sound like a V8 but that’s an easy fix just install a Borla ATTAK to get a nice profile sound and still have the looks of a bad ass last of its kind modern muscle cruiser car built today.
Excellent assessment my friend.. well said
Boosting a v8 on 6-7 lbs of boost safely will have the same results. You can get slightly more boost out of the v6 because the rods come forged from the factory. The scat pack does fine depending on the years it was produced to the ring gapping and spacing on the piston. The 5.7 loves boost and nitrous. Every car can be modded to what you want but to compare reliability and pricing that is really hard because there are so many factors. The 5.7 and 6.4 are not hard to cam and tune and you can make around the same hp as a ripp. That is also dependent on the cam and all that but still. And dont get me started on prodigy lol
I saw some people brought up the price being better and some other people saying it almost the same. Well I looked for a charger for an about 3 months and I got a 2014 dodge charger se with 84k miles for 10k, if there was a 5.7 that had 80-90k miles, it was at least 16-20k, some people don’t have a lot of money, and I wanted to pay my car off immediately, I can happily say that I bought a v6 charger and never had to worry about a car payment, I’m 18 with a car I love and no debt, and I can keep saving for a 5.7 while having a daily driver that I love and learning how to drive and handle a sports car from a vehicle that is a lot easier to control. Why do people feel like they have to constantly judge other peoples cars, like trucks with big lift, I really don’t care for them and they have a lot of money in useless mods, but I can respect that that is what they like and they enjoy modding and driving those trucks. If someone wants to drive a v6, so what why’s it your business. I saw someone complaining about them racing them, so what. If you have a vehicle faster than it just beat them get another win under your belt, if you can’t beat a v6 charger shut your mouth.
I have a AWD 450hp v6 challenger I didn't get the 392 or RT because it snows where I live I wanted AWD.. so I got the v6 with plans of modding it, you are a v8 guy I respect that but this was a long video basically you saying say we appreciate v6s because they pay the bills but you guys should sit on the sidelines and watch everyone else be fast annddd fuck that lol ... attitudes like this are the reason there are no big mopar v6 car channels I will continue to mod my v6 and posting it on my channel its a car when you mod it shit breaks fix it and keep pushing 🤝🏿
V6 owners aren’t scratching their heads over the gas prices.
I have 2015 Charger SE, good enough for a daily driver!!
Absolutely 👍
Wonderful explanation and I couldn't agree more with you more. I personally think that dodge/FCA did really well with the engine and trims. The v6's are fantastic for letting people get into the cars and have some fun. The srt's are at a great price to give you more power then you can get out of the v6's for a better price then going the power upgrade way. The hellcats/demons/redeyes are great for those how can afford and want that power more then the v6/6.4's can offer for the same price in mods. If you need more then that, a slightly modified 1000hp hellcat like Xcesiv is very achievable. And let's not forget how absolutely insane 1000hp truly is. (I also kinda feel the same way about chevy/ford.) All in all I think this past decade has been one of the largest automotive reforms for the absolute better (that 100% includes E.V.s in my oppion) Take care X. As always, Keep Smiling
Imo hellcat air box, exhaust, & tune is all the V6 needs other than visual mods
Agreed 👍
Are those 3 mods expensive? Thanks
Exhaust & airbox you can get used & try J Green for the tuner & ecm unlock
@@jackasmaryan1776 thanks
From what dodge has been putting out and for a few 3rd party companies there are people ranking up over 300k miles on these 3.6 engines and they are building them detuned so they have higher engine longevity
To be honest great percentage of people still don’t know what you got under hood or performance wise done to your vehicle.
I bought my sxt last week and it’s super fun to drive smooth and I probably will modify the exhaust and the diffuser to make it look like the GT and the intake manifold that’s all I need. I appreciate your input and advice.
Rewatching this after I had to give up my dream Challenger RT premium. The cost of living had put me slave to my car. I reinvested in a Charger Rallye v6, and I'm really enjoying the experience. Nothing compares to the hemi. But this is a fair backup deal.
My first Mopar was a 2012 3.6 challenger. It was smooth felt quick on the highway it was a very nice looking car. One thing that bothered me was the sound of the 3.6 v6 does not match the size of the vehicle at all. No matter which exhaust system I've listened too the v6 always sounded to tiny for me. I traded it in and got a 2014 challenger rt and it was every thing I loved about the v6 but with AMAZING torque and the Hemi sounds perfect with this big vehicle I'm now in a 2014 charger rt max and it still brings me joy to stomp on the gas and feel that hemi slam me in my seat. If you get the v6 enjoy it and tune out the haters most people that gave me shit about having a v6 were people who owned non performance cars, raggedy cars, or no car at all
God bless the Pentastar, I left it nice and bone stock in my JK. Most reliable engine in Jeeps since the 4.0
I feel like for challengers the awd one is the best to mod I have a 2021 challenger gt hellraisin and have a ripp supercharger, bbk 80mm throttled body, k & n cold air intake, pully system, custom tunes, and more mods etc. And was able to absolutely destroy 392's , 5.0's, , and camaro ss's from digs (due to the awd challenger being able to launch off the line amazingly quicker) . 30 and 40 rolls depends tbh because the 10 speed automatic 5.0 are fast asf lol but if you want a good answer as to whether you should mod any of these I would highly recommend anyone that wants to mod the 3.6 pentastar to go with the awd challenger if they want to achieve 500 whp like I am.
I had the 12 charger sxt and I loved it, I even changed my own plugs and coil pack and it was super easy. Great daily driver I'd say no work needed tbh
They definitely do make great daily drivers
My recommended mod on those engines will be porting cylinder heads which I did on my 3,8L Dodge Grand Caravan. It cost almost nothing but you definitely feel the change.
Interesting.. lol.. sleeper van 👍
Add k.n. cold air intake 87mm drag race throttle body ripp coil packs NGK lazer spark plugs race Ported upper and race ported lower air intake manifold custom tuning exhaust is straight piped/ w burble tune 🎶 E85 or 100 octane AWD 8SPD V6 CHARGER...GREAT CONTENT 😊
I just want an exhaust,louvers & a wrap on mine that's it..
The 3.6 pentastar is going to go down in history as one of chryslers legends. Strong, light dependable and 36 miles gallon
There are no aftermarket cams for the 3.6 v6.
I had a V8 charger now I have a V6 300s I love my car and I’m saving on Geico
Great way in narrating things, and very honest explanation for the different trims.
Thanks man
I got a 2013 Charger SE. I have a CAI, RIPP's coil packs, 80mm throttle body, pypes performance exhaust, 93 octane tune & a roar pedal so far. I've had it for 3 years & no major issues at all. I aint in a rush to get a 6.1 or 6.4 so I'll enjoy what I have & continue to create a bad ass v6. Folks can talk their shit about v6's all day but who cares 🤷🏾♂️
Modding my car has been worth every penny to me. I'm literally a RIPP supercharger away from making my baby a REAL sleeper & never hearing "v6 cHaRgErS aRe sLoW" again lol ..Even though I don't think any vehicle with 300+ wheel hp is slow.
Then again... I've never driven a SRT 😂
#RespectThe6
Well shit as long as you are happy my guy💯
@@KTony-go6zt Oh no doubt bro. That's all that matters at the end of the day lol 💯
Great video! Very informative. I love my challenger v6 but it’s time to upgrade to an R/T for more power.
When I upgrade it will be to a RT, shaker. Anything above that is more than I need. Unless I found one hell.of a deal on a Scat Shaker.
Thank you for this video man, been a big question burning in the back of my head. Thanks for the advice!
My only comment is to each its own , I personally have seen quite a few v6 builds walk fly by and walk down lightly modded scat packs so like racer x said all depends on how far you wanna go just for a forged 3.6 alone cost 7200
say it again racer x.....love the fact that you making the one uppers understand that the v6 has to exist in order for us to see a demon exist
Yes absolutely Antwon .. very important fact 👍
I love my Challenger SXT Plus it’s a fast car in my book, If I wanted faster car I would just get a RT. I don’t understand why people do the most to there V6’s.
Couldn't agree with you more Xi bought my wife an SE base charger in 15 and the only thing I've done to it is a cane in air filter Really reliable over 62000 miles no issues
Literally been thinking about this for months now. I’m thinking about the RIPP supercharger
Check out 86face on TH-cam he has one and more mods and his SXT runs with 392 and better then them but he has a lot of mode
Trucker SaLer 1911 I’m already subscribed 💯
@@WilsonInnovativeSolutions never mind then you know lmao
Real simple. Buy a v8 for 8000 more. Or a v6 with a $3k turbo and get more hp oh and better gas mileage. Nothing will beat a v8 sound but Supra’s and skylines have proven v6s can do more than keep up. I won’t get started on EVs. The old saying, there’s no replacement for displacement is just that, old. A RT charger makes 370hp and 395ft. Lbs. weighs 4,291 lbs. A V6 makes 300hp and 296 ft. Lbs. weighs 3,964 lbs. Add a Borg Warner turbo for $2100 and add roughly 170 actual hp (kits say 250hp gain but that’s with a crazy boost and compression, not practical for everyday use).I’ve saved $5000 weigh roughly 300lbs less and I still get much better gas mileage then that RT that was 8k more.
Oh and there’s a twin turbo v6 charger out there pushing 507hp that costs half of a scat pack.
Stop shitting on V6s
I have a 2015 big horn with the 3.6 and last week it rolled over to 223,000 miles it's had breaks battery and a basic tune up it is very impressive
I think any car needs what ever its owner would like to do to it, unless your building it for someone else opinion
Sprintex superchargers are probably the best out of the 3 supercharger brands for the V6 and they make the most power
That's what I'm looking at. But I've also heard you have to do a hood mod because it doesnt quite fit all the way.
Grabbed me the 2018 vr charger gt plus AWD is what sold me lots and lots of snow where I'm at turning it into a racecar not for me a badass family sedan heck yea cold air maybe knock out the mid muffler other then that make the exterior your own 🔥
Another excellent video! I think the DOHC 3.6 Pentastar is an excellent engine. I have driven a Ram 1500 that had one. It was pretty capable. With that though, my personal opinion is, at least for these cars, the good old fashioned push rod 5.7 /R/T as the starting trim. I'll admit I'm personally biased towards the Challenger. In my mind the V6 just doesn't compute for that car. IMO the 392 is the optimal choice. I'd certainly not pass up a 5.7 though. Push rod engines will give you that low end torque, while you'll need to rev that DOHC 3.6 allot higher. I think that's why a 5.7 will get the drop on a 3.6 NA every time. Have an awesome weekend Racer X!
Great assessment my friend.. love the torque of the 392.. the 3.6 is not the ideal platform for making power
@@RacerX9 I totally agree. When making a purchase decision, I'd think it would be wise to just save for an R/T trim. You get what you pay for still applies. 🤘
Thx broski, I think u just saved me from RUINING my 300🤯👍🏽
Yes, the 3.6 pentastar can be tuned with HP Tuners and you will aquire 40hp&40tq with a experience tuner who does 3.6's go for Demigod or Livernois. That's at the wheels! Not bullshit. Plenty of power for the street!
I had a 2018 Challenger SXT for 7 months and ultimately wasn't happy with it. It had a Borla Atak Cat back exhaust system and an AFE intake. I sold that a couple of weeks ago and got a 2020 R/T Challenger. So much better!
Grabbed a 2013 300 limited with 82k on the odo! Perfect to drive, great on fuel!!!
I have a 2017 Charger Pursuit V-6. I am okay with 22 mpg around town and 28 on the highway. I am totally okay with that.
As an owner of a 2014 V6 Mustang that I modded, I can tell you from a financial perspective it isn't worth it. I supercharged mine and it makes about 420 rwhp on a Mustang Dyno. It will run anywhere from a 12.2 to 12.5 depending on the density altitude. The car will run 12.2s when the DA is less than 1000 and 12.5s will be the ETs in 3000+ DA. The times are respectable and the car is fairly quick for what it is. If I had to do it all over gain, I would have bought the Mustang GT in 2014 and with bolt ons, it would have cost about the same and the ETs would be similar. The Mustang GT holds its value far better than the V6. A heavily modded car actually depreciates faster in value than when it is stock. If I had to do it all over I would have bought the V8. If I would mod my V6 Mustang knowing what I know now, I would have gone with a turbo because turbos are more efficient and the car would be about 3/4 of a second quicker in the quarter mile.
When it comes to modding V6s the Camaro and Mustangs are better to mod than Chargers, Challengers, and Chrysler 300s. The Mopars are heavy and the biggest weakness of the Pentastar is low end torque. Camaros and Mustang weigh 3,400 to 3600 pounds depending on how they're equipped versus about 4000 pounds for the Mopars. There is more aftermarket support for the V6 Fords and Chevys than there is for the Mopars. Mopars start at about a 400 pound deficit versus the Mustangs and Camaros. The design of the engine is also an obstacle for the Pentastar because the exhaust manifold is part of the cylinder head. You can't put long tube headers on the Pentastar. Because of the exhaust manifold design of the Pentastar, it doesn't lend itself to turbo charging. The exhaust manifold for the Pentastar is very restrictive and the pressure on the hot side would be very high increasing the likelihood of burning valves. The V6 Mopars have open differentials while Camaros and Mustangs come with limited slip differentials. Mopar offers a very limited selection of gear ratios. You can supercharge the Pentastar with a Ripp or Sprintex kit. It will drive like a stock V6 at low RPM and will be sluggish out of the hole. The supercharged V6 just won't perform like a V8 and mod for mod the gap between the V8 and V6 grows. You can overcome the horsepower deficit of the V6 with boost. However, there is a good chance you will stretch the head bolts and you'll end up with coolant in the cylinders.
Based on my experience, don't mod any V6, especially the Pentastar. If you supercharge the Pentastar by the time your done, you will spend at least R/T money. The R/T is a far better platform than the Pentastar V6. If you want performance, the Scat Pack is the best value for the money if you want a Mopar. If all you can afford is the V6, buy it, add a few appearance mods and enjoy it. The Pentastar is a good, reliable engine for a daily driver. If you must mod something with less than 8 cylinders, mod an Ecoboost Mustang. For less than $30,000, you can buy the car, add about $3,000 in performance mods, and easily run deep into the 12s.
Lol mine does 12.4 na all motor
@@nightmare3.7cyclone24 - When it comes to elapsed times, weather conditions and location also factors. The times I provided were under normal conditions. If I used negative density altitudes and/or raced at sea level, my times would be faster. I'm sure it's possible to get 12.4 all motor. If you were able to do that, the times you ran would put you in the top 10 for a naturally aspirated V6 Mustang. I prefer my set up because of what you'd have to do to get a 3.7 Mustang to run 12.4s on all motor. I race with a full interior and I don't use skinnies. I haven't done any weight reduction and it is fully equipped right down to the power seats and Shaker sound system. It has the performance package that adds more weight. My car is running low boost so it is still reliable. If they had E-85 available in my part of the country, my car would be .3 to .4 of a second quicker. If I increased boost, reduced weight, and installed long tubes I could get the car to run mid 11s. However, my car would no longer be enjoyable to drive. It's a nice cruiser that has power when I want it. It's a matter of what you want.
Exhaust, cai, tune and V6 should be right with the RT. Sometimes folks just want a lil zip every now n then. Not tryna line up like we racing for money. Passing speed and maybe an occasional stop light run every now n then. Nothing like driving a V8 due to that torque but the gas sucks! Lol can’t do it as a daily driver again
I still love my 2014 Charger R/T. She's still a head turner ( Header Orange) paint immaculate 76K on the odometer new headers K&N Air Intake and a tune. She's no slouch ask the sucker in the BMW M3 who tried me.
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I have a 2016 Dodge Charger SE and I can say it’s not the fastest but it’s a fun car to drive. I raced a duramax same year as mine on a 30 he didn’t pull off till over 70 mph, raced a Rt from 80 and he was a car an half in front and I was topped out at 120. Overall it’s not a bad car to have fun with in my opinion.
They are fun cars.. nothing wrong with the V6 trims 👍
Remember everyone. Hotroding is about YOUR CAR, YOUR VISION.. Don't listen to others, build what you want or can!!
This comes from the mechanic of the FASTEST 3.8 S.B.E. full-body 2015 Challenger!!
Be unique in life, anyone can buy a v8 but how many walk the big three at will? Lol..... How manybof us can stalk selected Maserati cars, open our hoods just to reveal the same motor. The pentastar in 100% stock firm will swallow 200hp of power adder. In a healthy motor your first failure will be head gaskets, headbolts, then pistons around the 580-630hp mark. Then about every rod will twist at 600+ mark.
You can easily fix all this with the great folks at prodigy.
I see plenty of tuned v6s putting down power it’s common now let’s face it no matter what trim mopar u get at some point something is getting modded maybe not the hellcats but everything else below
IN MY OPINION they shouldnt make a v6 challenger the v8 gets almost just as good mpg and sounds better and has more power responds better to mods
Exactly mate.
The price is the difference bud. People aren’t buying the 3.6 for the sound, power or anything a v6 has that a v8 doesn’t. They are mainly getting it for the price. If it was your wallet you would
Maybe consider common sense.
@Tony Wolf Too bad they don't make a rear wheel drive Honda Accord.
Hell with a front wheel drive, i won't own one.
I drive 140 miles per day in a Charger SXT, I love it.
Tony Wolf are you that ignorant? Get a real muscle car with a v8...until you get passed in your outdated r/t by a supercharged v6 that cost less as a whole including with the supercharger price included...if you have the funds to get a v8, of course go with the v8. But if you don’t have the extra 6K to spend for an outdated engine or 10k for a nicer v8 then the v6 is plenty to have fun and even beat v8s when supercharged.
@@conorfinlay6653 People don't like to understand that a ripp is supercharger combined with the price of the sxt is literally less if not the same worst case scenario slightly more than a R/T. However its cheaper than the scatpack, has more HP than the R/T leaving you with more money so spend if you save or decide to get something in between a r/t / scat pack. PS. to everyone. the sxt has more HP than the original muscle cars. I'll pass on any imports and go with dodge. the manufacturer that uses the most american made parts in the car industry. sorry ford/chevy
Great info! I gave my daughter my 2016 charger since she started driving this year. She wanted a louder exhaust so I put a better exhaust in there but I also wanted to install the following as well: Cold Air Intake, larger throttle body, Accel coil packs, and iridium spark plugs. Do you think these would make a difference in performance? I don’t want her car to be extremely fast, just maybe improve the performance a little but nothing drastic. She doesn’t drive the car like a maniac as my wife and I have the Life 360 app and monitor her driving but sometimes I still drive the car. 😂
Man I left from a Toyota Camry LE 2023 to a dodge charger sxt 2023 it’s not a RT but I love it it faster than a regular car anyway 👍
By the v6 get used to the car and if you need more power trade in the future. You support FCA to develop other trims, has some nice experience with this sport and luxury cars, have some fun driving, save gas and stands out from the average cruise cars and drivers in the market. I love my V6!
I have the 2019 GT Challenger RWD ... This baby flys 💪 305HP is me pulling off on everybody at a green light.. any faster would be extinction of speed 🤣
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😂and willing to kill everyone and everything just to prove a point 😂😂
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I dont think any body looks at your car and says “let me race this GT charger” it looks good though 👌🏾
man that shit slow as hell shutup
Should’ve just been ended at the fact an R/T runs you roughly 6-7k more MSRP (Base Model) than a V6 the price of a supercharger, for more power, better fuel economy, and lower maintenance costs. Now if you don’t want to mod and have a warranty get a v8 and enjoy what you drive.
I got a 300S a few months ago and I absolute love it. Will I mod it? Probably, air intake, maybe lowering springs, I'm doing an exhaust cut out because I also love how quiet it is at times but sometimes I want a little growl.
I just bought a single cab short box dodge ram with the 3.6, not because I couldnt afford a hemi but because I wanted better fuel ecomomy and 305 hp in a single cab truck is more then adequate.