There's something about this film and how it was captured that is so tactile with practical effects, stop-motion, the sound/foley...as a kid it made the scary elements that much more real. Thanks for the nightmare fuel, Disney
Everyone says how much the Wheelers scared them as kids. What freaked me out was all of Mombi's heads howling out "Dorothy Gale!" as she ran down the hallway.
This is literally one of the only scenes in a movie that gave me nightmares as a kid and I was scared going to sleep. This and the first paranormal activity is all I remember truly being scared hahaha
Both can give nightmares. For me though it was the wheeler turning into sand in the deadly desert only to break apart. That made me scared of the ocean for a whole year.
Betterhelp adverts surviving the MASS backlash on all the major channels. They must be dropping a fine penny, because god knows they don't all believe in the service.
They pay per click and a flat fee, usually it ends up being way more than other options. Sad that so many channels care so little about their viewers, there's no way they don't know by now how awful BH are.
@CinemaSins you're a sellout. Shame on you. You know you are promoting someone unethical and you are intentionally perpetrating harm against vulnerable people to prioritise your greed.
@@TerribleTom113 Go and google it, it's not exactly a secret. If you don't know by now but still read comment sections on youtube videos, this is very much a you issue. You jokers always turn up and defend the precious youtube channels who don't know you exist and are more than happy to sell you to the likes of BH. /e Looking at your post histroy you know exactly what the problems are, you just shout about citations whenever anyone tells you. Pathetic.
It's funny how this film feels like the same kind of dark reimagining that would have been popular to put out these days. Though, not dark in the "Blood and gore" shockvalue way, more dark in the "Kids probably aren't prepared to see motionless heads suddenly moving or a girl being given shock treatment for supposed mental woes" way.
Except the funny thing is that it's arguably the MOST faithful Oz movie adaptation. It mashes up the plots of two of the books, but basically everything in it (aside from the Kansas stuff) is taken straight from the source. Oz was always dark, this is just the one movie that doesn't sugarcoat it.
@@barbaragingras5955 Yeah I know. That's why I said "Re-imagining" rather than faithful adaptation since that would be the more "trendy" way to look at it.
At the end of the movie you see her in a police carriage. I think they said the electro-shock permanently damaged people and they were locked in the basement.
I saw this as a kid and when that Headless woman started chasing Dorothy i was so upset i started crying and i remember my parents shutting the movie off after that. (I was 4 years old at the time)
I love that Disney paid to have stuff like the Ruby slippers and the yellow brick road from WB, they could just have made an OZ movie like the dozens that exist, but they decided to make a sequel to the best one and Warner just let them, that's commitmet to the craft.
Man, I did not do horror movies when I was little, yet I watched this several times and it didn't creep me out at all. Looking back now, it's kind of surprising.
This movie single-handedly made me into the little weirdo I am today and for that I am thankful lol for the record, I’m 38 and I still watch this regularly😂
The dude that was turned into stone while gardening but then moved to a different place from his permanently fixed originally turned into stone position was the thing that stoned me most about this movie.
My mother loved this movie. She had some hesitation towards the scarier bits, but she had no issues with little me watching it. Then again, the psycho let me watch Arachnophobia when I was 4. Take that as you will. 😅
I so much enjoyed reading the Baum Oz books out loud to my then GF - this one, we felt, was a more compelling and interesting story than the Wonderful Wizard.
Movie that has been ignoring the previous movie in favor of the book canon suddenly switches to previous movie canon by making the slippers ruby instead of silver, indicating that movie does not know whether it wants to be a sequel or not. Ding!
Their choice to use the ruby slippers and yellow brick road was solely to get butts in seats in theaters. Disney banked on the fact that millions of people loved the original movie. It's why the trailers featured the slippers and road. They knew what they were doing. They wanted to be true to the books while also paying homage to the classic movie. I do agree that they could've simply stuck to what was in the books, but I don't think many people would've paid to see it if they had. They could've also made up something about the slippers "fading" or "changing" into silver for whatever reason, just so they didn't have to pay such a huge royalty to WB.
Not really. You are right there IS a sequel. Multiple sequels actually. After the original book got super popular the author started writing sequels to it. This movie is just an adaptation of the first two sequels while skipping over the first one because well, everyone knows it already. But the sequels in comparison are very obscure. You can still buy them online though! The art is gorgeous and a lot of the really fucked up stuff in this movie came from the books
OK the wheelers, sin off, Room full of heads shouting Dorothy Gale, sin off, Eggs are poisonous, sin off. Hell no sins, awesome movie, best thing to come out of 80s Disney 😂😂
It would be an interesting comparison to see how many drugs were consumed in the creation of Return to Oz and how many were consumed in the creation of Cats.
We've been over this. It is perfectly legal to have non-license therapist helping you. They are supervised by license therapist. It's no different than going to the doctor and seeing a registered nurse instead of the actual doctor. Usually the only difference between a license therapist and an unlicensed one is a state test.
I was so confused about this movie as I was a kid and I assumed it was a direct sequel to that MGM film, and of course seeing it with that assumption would cause a lot of confusion. I hadn't even read the original book at that point.
I completely removed fancy Giftmas anxiety by not celebrating Giftmas! 8:07 JESUS JEREMY IS THAT YOUR MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY??? HAHAHAHA sneaking in lyrics to Africa
For years I've had vague memories of the opening of this movie but never knew what it was from. They played it at daycare during morning free time. Never saw past the ECT scene. I don't remember being scared watching. I think kids just don't understand the implications of some of the things they see. I just knew everyone thought Dorothy was crazy when she wasn't & the treatment wasn't exactly kosher.
If you know anything about the wizard of Oz series of books there were more stories after the original wizard of Oz story the character of tick Tock has a whole book dedicated to that character in the book series
It's less the sequel to the first film and more the sequel to the first book. The only thing they got from the first film is that Dorothy's slippers are red instead of silver like in the books - but pretty much everything else is based on the books.
To be fair though, I recently read the book this film is based on ("Ozma of Oz" except, y'know, without Ozma until the very end xD), and in that the Nomes react to eggs AS IF they are poison.... but in fact they're not poisoned by the egg, just terrified enough to flee! (Also, in the book the Nome King is not a rock-based polymorph but a person xD)
Cite an actual source. The only lawsuit involving them is the sale of personal data, like email lists, health survey data, ip addresses, etc after saying they wouldn't. So they got in trouble for doing the exact same thing Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and everyone else does with user data. Otherwise, Legal Eagle did a piece on its TOS and debunked the rumors of Better Help being a scam.
Just for the record this is a 1985 sequel to the original 1935 movie,Dorothy should technically be In her mid 60s to high 70s,why tf did the director think to deage Dorothy then give her mental problems like she's crazy or something. There are some sequels that shouldn't be made ,this is one of them
The 1935 movie was based on the book written in 1908, which was actually the fourth book in the Oz series. Road to Oz was the fifth and was published one year later. If I remember right, Dorothy was about ten years old in all of the Oz books. Judy Garland's portrayal of Dorothy was oddly girlish because she was too old for the role and they had to tailor her dress to hide that she had already started puberty.
God this movie was a mind(&^%/ I watched it as a kid and still remember the various horrifying scenes. I sometimes will have DREAMS about the fricking wheelers and the broken down oz.
There's something about this film and how it was captured that is so tactile with practical effects, stop-motion, the sound/foley...as a kid it made the scary elements that much more real.
Thanks for the nightmare fuel, Disney
Missed a trick with no sin off for how the wheelers caused severe trauma for a generation of kids....
Everyone says how much the Wheelers scared them as kids. What freaked me out was all of Mombi's heads howling out "Dorothy Gale!" as she ran down the hallway.
i played like i was one of them with my pyjama to scare my little sister it workted to well xD
This moment absolutely stayed with me in the worst ways 😂
yeah the wheelers set me up, and the heads knocked me down
This is literally one of the only scenes in a movie that gave me nightmares as a kid and I was scared going to sleep. This and the first paranormal activity is all I remember truly being scared hahaha
Both can give nightmares. For me though it was the wheeler turning into sand in the deadly desert only to break apart. That made me scared of the ocean for a whole year.
One of the most underrated sequels ever!
@@olleselin it's a delightful nightmare.
I love this film!!
Definitely the best wizard of Oz movie. It's crazy how many people don't know about it. It's one of my favorite movies
Mine too 😏
I'd take the electro shock therapy over Better Help.
"The CinemaSins releasing a video sinning a movie right before the release of a similar spin-off movie cliche."
DING
“CinemaSins STILL using the BetterHelp sponsorship. When will you learn old man?!”
Betterhelp adverts surviving the MASS backlash on all the major channels. They must be dropping a fine penny, because god knows they don't all believe in the service.
They pay per click and a flat fee, usually it ends up being way more than other options. Sad that so many channels care so little about their viewers, there's no way they don't know by now how awful BH are.
@CinemaSins you're a sellout. Shame on you. You know you are promoting someone unethical and you are intentionally perpetrating harm against vulnerable people to prioritise your greed.
@@NMN_CPWhat harm has BetterHelp caused? With citations
@@TerribleTom113you are not entitled to any of my time. Google it
@@TerribleTom113 Go and google it, it's not exactly a secret. If you don't know by now but still read comment sections on youtube videos, this is very much a you issue. You jokers always turn up and defend the precious youtube channels who don't know you exist and are more than happy to sell you to the likes of BH.
/e Looking at your post histroy you know exactly what the problems are, you just shout about citations whenever anyone tells you. Pathetic.
Thank you for the “Weeping Angels” reference. I love it when nerds be nerding. I love us!!!! Lol!!!! 💛💛💛💛
Not BetterHelp again!
GG for having a Moshi Monsters pfp
They gotta pay those bills
It's funny how this film feels like the same kind of dark reimagining that would have been popular to put out these days. Though, not dark in the "Blood and gore" shockvalue way, more dark in the "Kids probably aren't prepared to see motionless heads suddenly moving or a girl being given shock treatment for supposed mental woes" way.
Except the funny thing is that it's arguably the MOST faithful Oz movie adaptation. It mashes up the plots of two of the books, but basically everything in it (aside from the Kansas stuff) is taken straight from the source. Oz was always dark, this is just the one movie that doesn't sugarcoat it.
"dark reimagining "
Friend the original classics and fairytales are way,way darker than any reboot or remake made today.
Dahl's original tale is dark.
@@barbaragingras5955 Yeah I know. That's why I said "Re-imagining" rather than faithful adaptation since that would be the more "trendy" way to look at it.
@@barbaragingras5955 , not that Dahl didn't have some dark stuff too, but this would be from Baum's original tales.
This movie scared the SH*T out of me as a kid. From the shock treatment, to the wheelers, to Mombi’s heads-freaking terrifying. Great movie, though.
Wasn't the nurse arrested for her role in 'hospital'? The 'treatments' were apparently super dangerous and all.
Wasn't it "Upstairs, Downstairs"?
At the end of the movie you see her in a police carriage. I think they said the electro-shock permanently damaged people and they were locked in the basement.
I saw this as a kid and when that Headless woman started chasing Dorothy i was so upset i started crying and i remember my parents shutting the movie off after that. (I was 4 years old at the time)
I love that Disney paid to have stuff like the Ruby slippers and the yellow brick road from WB, they could just have made an OZ movie like the dozens that exist, but they decided to make a sequel to the best one and Warner just let them, that's commitmet to the craft.
“Testing random powders you bought from a magician.”
How else do think they came up with this movie?
😂😂
The coked out books
This movie scared the crap out of me when I watched it the first time 😭😭😭
Same here
And then Dorothy moved to Louisiana, changed her name, and married Bobby Boucher.
After becoming a witch in highschool and spending some time in another psychiatric hospital.
Man, I did not do horror movies when I was little, yet I watched this several times and it didn't creep me out at all. Looking back now, it's kind of surprising.
This movie single-handedly made me into the little weirdo I am today and for that I am thankful lol for the record, I’m 38 and I still watch this regularly😂
I'm 42, and will never stop loving this creepy movie.
Actually love this movie. I prefer it to the original even.
Back in '85 this was good wholesome entertainment for an 8 year old. I still don't think I've recovered from the trauma.
Same age, same thought process. Of all the 80s films I've made my kids enjoy dammit, I forgot about this one.
Good thing there's an ad for mental help in the beginning!!!!!
This is so freaky. I was just rewatching The Wizard of Oz and then you posted this
Well wicked is coming out.
You may have subconsciously wanted to watch wizard of Oz by seeing ads you didn't know you saw.
Going to see Wicked later today
Movie unnerved the SHIT out of me when I was young!😂😂😂
Young? It does that to me now. 😂
Mombi scared me sooo much when I was little 😄
Can we get back these movies that scare the crap out of kids?
The dude that was turned into stone while gardening but then moved to a different place from his permanently fixed originally turned into stone position was the thing that stoned me most about this movie.
This went so hard. I wonder how parents felt about this movie with their children after the MGM one
It was the 1980s. Parents thought they could just plop their kid's down to watch it while they went elsewhere.
My parents didn't watch it with me. It was a rental and they just hit play and went off to cook dinner or clean or whatever.
My mother loved this movie. She had some hesitation towards the scarier bits, but she had no issues with little me watching it. Then again, the psycho let me watch Arachnophobia when I was 4. Take that as you will. 😅
An anti-scarecrow weapon is a bottle of Lysol and a lighter!
I watched this movie years ago in school and it is so dark and different. I love it!
I so much enjoyed reading the Baum Oz books out loud to my then GF - this one, we felt, was a more compelling and interesting story than the Wonderful Wizard.
This movie is very loosely based on two of the books. Ozma of Oz & Tik-Tok of Oz.
This movie is like experiencing an acid trip for the first time.
The heads freaked me out when I was a kid. lol
16:19 This scarecrow is evenly matched with the clown from poltergeist at being scary as all hell!
3:38
As someone who is from Delaware, I promise you that we are not a mythical land.
There actually is a place with no sales tax.
Lies. Delaware is a land that only exists in fairytales.
This is the first time I'm learning there was another Oz movie.
There’s a lot of em actually. This and 1939 are some of the best
Highly recommended. It's nothing like the original, so go into it knowing you'll have an unsettling time. 😉
Movie that has been ignoring the previous movie in favor of the book canon suddenly switches to previous movie canon by making the slippers ruby instead of silver, indicating that movie does not know whether it wants to be a sequel or not. Ding!
Their choice to use the ruby slippers and yellow brick road was solely to get butts in seats in theaters. Disney banked on the fact that millions of people loved the original movie. It's why the trailers featured the slippers and road. They knew what they were doing. They wanted to be true to the books while also paying homage to the classic movie.
I do agree that they could've simply stuck to what was in the books, but I don't think many people would've paid to see it if they had. They could've also made up something about the slippers "fading" or "changing" into silver for whatever reason, just so they didn't have to pay such a huge royalty to WB.
this movie is nightmare fuel
I learned through *checks notes* CinemaSins, that a Wizard of Oz SEQUEL exists. WOW.
Not really. You are right there IS a sequel. Multiple sequels actually. After the original book got super popular the author started writing sequels to it. This movie is just an adaptation of the first two sequels while skipping over the first one because well, everyone knows it already. But the sequels in comparison are very obscure. You can still buy them online though! The art is gorgeous and a lot of the really fucked up stuff in this movie came from the books
Also nice with the “You don’t even exist to me” from The Craft. I never realized it was the sane actress. 💛💛💛💛
OK the wheelers, sin off, Room full of heads shouting Dorothy Gale, sin off, Eggs are poisonous, sin off. Hell no sins, awesome movie, best thing to come out of 80s Disney 😂😂
Anything that scared us kids in the 80s: automatic sin off. 🤣
This movie is better then wicked
I’ve been waiting for this episode
It would be an interesting comparison to see how many drugs were consumed in the creation of Return to Oz and how many were consumed in the creation of Cats.
This film is definitely experiencing an underground resurgence! It’s delightfully demented & I’m here for it!
Ok, let me start bt saying Thank you before i watch this. I LOVE this underrated gem.
STOP SUPPORTING BETTERHELP
Y?
Reason?
Not real therapists.
We've been over this. It is perfectly legal to have non-license therapist helping you. They are supervised by license therapist. It's no different than going to the doctor and seeing a registered nurse instead of the actual doctor. Usually the only difference between a license therapist and an unlicensed one is a state test.
@@65Reidlos source?
This movie scared me as a child. Thank you.
I was so confused about this movie as I was a kid and I assumed it was a direct sequel to that MGM film, and of course seeing it with that assumption would cause a lot of confusion. I hadn't even read the original book at that point.
I can’t believe you are sinning this movie!!! I have to watch it later, I’m at work.
TBH there's alot more book accuracy in this than a lot of adaptations.
Though Ozma was a boy in the book
Brought to you by the broadway musical “wicked” film in theaters this weekend
I adore this movie. You absolute monster
🫵🏾🤡
The audio gags at the end were great this go around. The Forrest Gump one in particular really got me.
Dude you should do the wishmaster movies
The wheelers and mombie will always be the scariest moments in film history
Just recognized the Matron in black as the evil queen in Willow.
Everyone suffering from Nightmares after watching this movie as a Kid raises their hand.
Everyone: *_raising their hand_*
As I thought...
DING DING DING DING for "better"help 😫
I completely removed fancy Giftmas anxiety by not celebrating Giftmas!
8:07 JESUS JEREMY IS THAT YOUR MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY???
HAHAHAHA sneaking in lyrics to Africa
Mombi didn't bring Jack to life. There's a reason he calls Ozma "Mom."
11:26 After 30 years someone finally noticed the Gump in this movie and Forrest have the same name. Thank you.
20:05 Over 30 years and it was worth the wait.
One of my favorite childhood movies
It was Spocks pinch and Wonder Woman's lasso of truth all wrapped up into one! 8:45
For years I've had vague memories of the opening of this movie but never knew what it was from. They played it at daycare during morning free time. Never saw past the ECT scene. I don't remember being scared watching. I think kids just don't understand the implications of some of the things they see. I just knew everyone thought Dorothy was crazy when she wasn't & the treatment wasn't exactly kosher.
This movie, viewed as a child, might just be why I love drugs so much today.
If you know anything about the wizard of Oz series of books there were more stories after the original wizard of Oz story the character of tick Tock has a whole book dedicated to that character in the book series
By the same author?
@@nellaethelflaed1248 yes Frank L Baum
I hear things about this movie but never saw it. thank goodness for eww.
All the top comments are about BetterHelp and not about the film itself. Shows how passionate fans can be. 🤣
I didn't even know there was a sequel to the first film
It's less the sequel to the first film and more the sequel to the first book. The only thing they got from the first film is that Dorothy's slippers are red instead of silver like in the books - but pretty much everything else is based on the books.
@ I didn't even know there was a book!
@@richardlinton3360 there's 14 books in the series.
Betterhelp? I rather take a bottle of aspirin and chase it down with bucket of rabid saliva.
Cool Video Bro.
Thanks a lot for this, guys! ❤
"They look like big, strong hands, don't they". What a reference.
This is my favorite Wizard of Oz film!!!
I was waiting for that rock bitter line this whole video 😹
This film was some nightmare fuel for me as a kid. It definitely follows the theme of the books more than the Wizard of Oz film did.
i just rewatched this yesterday .
Well, how about that. Glad I asked (over on TVSins)!
To be fair though, I recently read the book this film is based on ("Ozma of Oz" except, y'know, without Ozma until the very end xD), and in that the Nomes react to eggs AS IF they are poison.... but in fact they're not poisoned by the egg, just terrified enough to flee! (Also, in the book the Nome King is not a rock-based polymorph but a person xD)
So....what does this film have to do with the Wizard of Oz?
It doesn’t, the land itself is called Oz. Hence the “return to Oz”
Cinemasins has every right to promote Better Help.
And their audience has every right to judge them for doing so.
Great movie
EWW Night at the Roxbury
Better help like most things these days is an outright scam and does more damage than good. It's obvious you don't care sins guy
Cite an actual source. The only lawsuit involving them is the sale of personal data, like email lists, health survey data, ip addresses, etc after saying they wouldn't. So they got in trouble for doing the exact same thing Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Google, and everyone else does with user data. Otherwise, Legal Eagle did a piece on its TOS and debunked the rumors of Better Help being a scam.
Both Wizard of Oz and Return to Oz give me nightmares when I was a kid. 😱
I got a wizard of oz themed phone ad before watching this
BETTER HELP IS THE BEST PLACE TO... SKIP!!! 😂
Just for the record this is a 1985 sequel to the original 1935 movie,Dorothy should technically be In her mid 60s to high 70s,why tf did the director think to deage Dorothy then give her mental problems like she's crazy or something. There are some sequels that shouldn't be made ,this is one of them
The 1935 movie was based on the book written in 1908, which was actually the fourth book in the Oz series. Road to Oz was the fifth and was published one year later. If I remember right, Dorothy was about ten years old in all of the Oz books. Judy Garland's portrayal of Dorothy was oddly girlish because she was too old for the role and they had to tailor her dress to hide that she had already started puberty.
Sins suggestions: Bettehelp
Wait...this movie exists?
No
God this movie was a mind(&^%/ I watched it as a kid and still remember the various horrifying scenes. I sometimes will have DREAMS about the fricking wheelers and the broken down oz.
Never Better Help 🤢🙄
Dorothy is an Isekai main character in a nutshell.
Change my mind.
No
Nah fam ur right.
She doesn't get reincarnated or physically transplanted. The whole thing is in her head.
Indeed.
The late Nicol Williamson as the Nome King. CHICKEN!!
CinemaSins is my Tharpist, and that's why I'm chaotic and dysfunctional, ding.
I'm scoring you Infinite sins for the Betterhelp plug.
I was seven when this was released, and it was straight-up nightmare fuel.
I loved these books as a kid so I think this movie is great
4:59 Louisiana reference ⚜️💕
Have you ever wondered that perhaps Oz is the real world, and Kansas is just in Dorothy's mind?