New Landing Techniques Just Dropped - Watching Your Takeoff and Landings In Star Citizen - Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Join me for this second installment as we secretly watch players take off and land from spaceports in Star Citizen. This week we are visiting the hazy city of Lorville on Hurston.
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When I first started recording people landing and taking off at spaceports I thought it might be boring as there would not be much to look at. Instead however, every time I've fired up my recordings you all never fail to entertain me showing off your skills... or lack of skills in some cases XD. Either way, it is all in good fun!
Who do you think had the best takeoff or landing this time? Let me know below! Also, let me know where you think I should camp out next!
Enjoy, see you all in the next one. o7
Where is the most common place for ships to crash on landing and takeoff that's where you should do your next video maybe Grim hex LOL😅
That pheonix might have been me, depending on the date and server
which server areyou in , ,maybe I should head there and hope you can see my take off and landings lol
I'm glad a run the Mystwalker skin on my cat it wasn't me ... but I definitely need to watch the nose lmao.
MOAR!!!!
I didn’t think I’d enjoy watching takeoffs and landings lol. Surprisingly entertaining
There are whole TH-cam channels dedicated to plane spotting, it's way more common than you think!
@bahfreakee Your 💯 % correct my younger kids love watching landing at the local airport. My older son is getting his pilot license. Just point out the positive experiences.
I hope they eventually redo the spaceport layouts so that most, if not all, of the hangar entrances are easily visible from a lobby, restaurant, etc. I think it would help build the immersion for players to see others flying in and out.
Plane watching used to be a favorite pastime when traveling by air. Unfortunately, most of the airports I use these days have very poor views of the runways.
The ship dealer and terminal lobby at Lorville do overlook the hangars. At ArcCorp Area 18 the terminal lobby also overlooks some of the hangars. At NBIS the windows at the terminal overlook the rail line coming in and you can see ships approaching and leaving the hangars. At Orison you can see the ships come and go from different spots. And the big lobby window at some of the space stations has a view of some of the hangars.
Landing a Carrack in those vertical hangars is always a struggle with that big butt 😅
This is absolutely fantastic.
For me one of the joys of Star Citizen is making that perfect cinematic take off or landing, I am always secretly wishing there is someone like you watching and appreciating the art and holding up score cards!
One of wishlists items would be the ability to display a cinematic replay in third person view of the last few minutes of gameplay so I could score myself!
Keep doing these please. Thoroughly enjoying ship spotting :)
Vids of "Plane-watching" in SC is now officially my favourite content.
Occasionally, I like to land my Aurora upside down with gear extended so it can look like a dead bug
You capturing the 890 jump Quantum Jumping was really cool to watch
I agree with you 100% on the horizontal hangers don't get why they don't put them into the game they are way easier to land in and aesthetically they look a lot better in takeoff and Landing😊 also I hate when people don't use Vtol on their ships that have they
Why would they use vtol? Mechanically for many ships it's nothing more than an aesthetic thing, which is a shame. The same reason why you wouldn't just tilt onto your tail and launch like a rocket from the landing pad. It's a shame SC doesn't have proper landing it takeoff mechanics that make it more skill based. They tried with the 'helicopter mode' flight control but so many complained they just removed it instead of even trying to iterate on it. I wonder if they'd ever re-introduce a landing mode since they're doing a bunch of pilot modes currently.
As mentioned before, you should film at PO before it's gone. Also Grim for that wall of side hangars.
New idea though, find an outpost that gets alot of cargo hauling traffic and film there.
oh definitely have to get PO.
when the flight model changes come in, people will almost be forced to make these asthetic landings and takeoffs so im very exited for that :)
they're changing the flight model?
@@Halo786yes making the flight surfaces functional
other than the snowstorms that hit New babs, I think you will get some of the best side hanger take-off and landing there.
Aslo I think that not many visit Lorville, as it is a fine FPS killer at the moment.
p.s. glad you didn't catch my Carrack landing, no landing gear, belly flopped and somehow ended on its side when I activated them late... got a screenshot though.
These are so chill to watch. Earned a sub from me.
Would love to see more of this. Keep it up dude.
love the carrack one
Loved the first part of this series(hopefully it’s stretched out to a long one).
Got me oddly nostalgic about watching planes take off and land from near my local airport.
Excited to dive into this video
This is fun to watch and you have me actually working on my landings now that I know someone may be watching - Thanks man
This series has made me realise I would like to have glass in the spaceport terminals to watch planes come and go.
Some station have that.
I love this video format SO much. Please please do more!
Irl airports have lights to indicate how on target the aircraft is, i think especially for the vertical hangars some kinda lights that pssively jndicate how aligned you are would help massively
I've started throwing flashy shit into my landings and departures just in case...
These videos remind me of when my grandfather would take us kids, to go and watch trains at the local railroad station.
that cat pilot did at least 1000 cargo hauls to lorville. i know
Great video! I agree that we need some of those side hangars in Loreville. They are in all the other planetary spaceports and they are actually right there in Teasa!
We need gravity )) ship just hangin there nose down, look and feel terrible. It will be much better if you HAD to be bottom down to hover at big planets.
BTW, i'm really surprize that we still dont have any vertical ship. You know ones that land with main thrusters facing down and have many small decks with ladders inside. 12:21 - just imagine 5 horizontal cargo decks in upper part and 3 habi-decks in lower parts. And pilot chair in laying down on a floor facing up (so pilot can deal with extreme G's at take off)
29:53 - Carrack! Ma boy! Sooo cool )
We do have gravity, turn off decoupled and watch the ship fall from the sky
I think you are absolutely right about the hangers, as far as seeing the ships you could always try getting in a very open cockpit like a prospector and stay low on the ground and then quickly fly over the in ground hanger to get the shot of them landing. nice job very enjoyable and got some good pointers for my landing practices. thank you.
I'd suggest a fury...
😁
Agreed. Vertical hangars suck - especially for a Carrack.
I already miss Port O, the most cinematic landings per capita - that you can see from the station windows.
Glad you decided to do another one of these, Hybrid. I think it’s the chance to see a collection of the different ships in motion in the game from a distance that appeals. We spend so much time up close with our own ships, I think it’s good to watch them from a distance sometimes.
I hope you keep this going !
Legend. Really enjoying this series :D
@HybridVAudio - Watching this after pretty much 5 days straight playing, ive been doing allsorts of testing. This evening i focused on CPU optimization, and to cut an extremely long story short i may have stumbled on a fix for the hitching you experience.
By the way lovely SC youtube watchers, dont just read the first line of what im about to write and jump in your BIOS, make sure you understand :)
Testing performed @ Orison in daylight.
Settings MAX - No film grain, No chromatic aberration, motion blur camera only, FOV 116, Vsync ON
Rendering (NIVIDA) DSR Factor 2.25 (2880 x 1620 scaled to 1920 x 1080 @ 120hz)
Image Scaling ON w/ 0% sharpening, 0% smoothing, LowLatencyMode: Ultra, GSync on, Vsync On, Max frame rate 100fps, max background 30fps.
Vulkan/OpenGL: Layered DXGI Swapchain, OpenGL GDI: Prefer Compatible.
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While hyperthreading is enabled at a BIOS level (AUTO or ENABLED), StarCitizens "Volumetric Clouds" interact with only 1 logical processor (marked CPU1 on my system).
I think this is a purposeful restriction to reduce CPU load on what is an already CPU intensive game. Likely with push from the community for better multi threaded support (which is a good thing).
I discovered this by coming across a bug: Each time i alt+tab`d out of SC my GPU would suddenly jump from ~70% load ~50% TDP (160w) straight upto redline: 100% load 100% TDP (300w).
Which had caused a 2100mhz gpu overclock to crash a previous session. Running a power reduced GPU (80% & 1875mhz 1000mV Locked) i started reproducing the 100% loading while going through some of the NIVIDA Control Panel settings, then the in-game settings to figure out what the problem was. Each time the GPU maxed there was a 80% flat line loading on only 1 of the cpu`s 12 processors, so i knew a CPU driven process was to blame. I found it & i can explain the walk around.
(If you board already here it is: Settings: Volumetric Clouds - High) ----- --- -- - Alright see you in the verse!)
The fault 'seems' to be that the render rate for VOLUMETRIC CLOUDS is UNCONSTRAINED only when the setting is set to: VERY HIGH
However there might be a little more to it than that, the reason it manifests when i alt+tab out is because i manually constrain render rates with NCP to: 100 fps max ingame, and 30 fps when background. I have reason to believe, that based on client generated system specs at launch, SC might self limit its own FPS to 60 max for most systems. Generally ones that would only get up there while in deep space. Additionally monitor refresh rates would also impose a system wide render constraint (VSync). Last but not least is adaptive refresh rates based on render rate (GSync).
I went back and fourth and made sure it was repeatable. What was also repeatable was an instant 10fps gain at Orsion in daylight, fixed the bug and free frames whoo hoo!
But i had to know more..... So naturally i went straight to the BIOS.
Turning hyperthreading off changed my CPU utilization from: 6 core, 12 logical processors. To 6 core, 6 logical processors.
With the in-game settings the same through testing, volumetric clouds were processed by all 6 cores.
HOWEVER! for the first time ever, i heard the case fans come on full load, my 11600kf was heating up! I generally see ~46*c CPU temps (NH-U12A double fan tower), while the fan curve on the RTX GPU keeps it from thermal throttling (Set to 80*c). Surprisingly on review, the CPU/GPU game generated load had reversed.
The AORUS 3070ti Master (@the time: 2025mhz 1000mV Locked / 10kmhz memory) was at only 30% load, while the 11600KF (3.91ghz boosting 4.61ghz) was at 100% utilization on all cores (as seen in Task-Manager). MSI Detach showed 90 - 98% load rapidly spiking on all CPU cores.
This is likely the reason CIG restricted the CPU side of volumetric clouds to only 1 core, and it seems Hyper-Threading is useful.... Its perhaps an oversight that CPU requests on the GPU from that 1 processer are unconstrained while SC runs in the background, as simply the normal system traffic of playing SC, might be the reason its gone un-noticed this long.
Either way demoting the setting to HIGH seems to be a solid Fix.
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(For those of you that are GPU bottlenecked: aka see 100% GPU usage sustained ever during play. But you have some CPU headroom available: aka your seeing
I might have to do this when they get the Polaris in game. I bet a lot of people will be launching them from Area 18... I know I'll be launching mine from there. They'll use the same Extra Large hanger that the 890 uses.
The Connie's VTOL thrusters do absolutely nothing but play a nice animation. ...and yes, I hate those top opening hangers. Especially because in the future, we'll have no advanced scanners, radar, cameras, night vision, etc.
You'll always see my gear down early - it allows you to switch to decoupled and glide in with thrusters holding a vector for you. Your ship will mostly behave as it does in zero G. Without the gear down, the ship just drops like a rock like you'd expect.
Nice fun video, keep it up!
I was having those 2 second hitches once I upgraded to 12th gen. Fixed the problem once I updated to windows 11. Worth a try if you haven't already. Something to do with task scheduling. I'm also running a startup script but I don't think it's actually working. Hit me up if you want details on the startup script. The problem turned out to be efficiency cores. Windows 11 has a more intelligent task scheduler which should help.
ATC forever memeing in this game. Carrack calls for a pad, ATC gives him one that's barely big enough to for it. Meanwhile, I come in with my Gladius and they give me an 890j hangar and a 300 yard sprint to the elevators 🤣
Nice! Been waiting for more of these videos.
I must confess I usually deploy my gears on approach and don't wait till the last minute. Just a habit I picked up in DCS, I suppose...
Nice one again! I feel like we're at the cusp of a new "Landing" competition with multiple judges (Non-Russian as per usual figure skating track record 🧐). You know, a user driven event! 😃
You can try disabling the eCores to alleviate the stuttering from the Intel 13th gen processors. I have a 12th gen and had to do that. It only happens in SC, no other games have an issue. Luckily for me I have an ASUS mobo and they have a BIOS setting that you can set to disable the eCores by pressing the scroll lock key on the keyboard. Another great video. I love to watch ships landing. I usually hang out for a little bit when I land at A18 or Lorville just to watch for ships coming in and landing.
The first week I had my Carrack, every single launch and landing was in the "medium" size hangars. During that same period, 4 or 5 flights with my A2 flew out of the large hangars. For those unfamiliar, the Carrack has maybe a meter or two of clearance on each side when perfectly centered in the medium sized hangars. The problem that comes into play is the clutter on the ground.
OK I'm back to finish this episode (started it last night).
Gotta say, I've lived that Carrack landing so many times - and like you said HybridV, she often glitches into the geometry and explodes.
I wish the large Hangar was a bit WIDER so we can land and take off with gunners in turrets!
yeah, hammerhead's a bit wide with turrets extended...
@@Gortok1 I did not know that. Thanks!
Maybe we can get them to widen the large hangar by 2 to 4m one day
I dread to think what I'd look like taking off in SC these days... it's been a VERY long time since I last got to fly in the game (pre-PU) due to not having a good enough system to run it for years. Used to love flying the Gladiator but own a fair few ships to play with. Carrack looked stunning in that paint job though it might need a bigger hanger due to its size.
Maybe I am the only one... But: in my opinion, I would (theoretically functunal, but mostly aesthetically) prefer to see the landing gear rising / lowerigwhen passing the air barrier, (when landing a little bit earlier)
That catt might of been me, if this was recently recorded lol This looked way too familliar and I nosed the front and went "Im getting out of here before someone sees it" lol So im sure that was me haha.... I accidentally hit the cruise key which pushed me forward and didnt manage to back up in time xD
Edit: im certain its me, lol (still cant be 100% as its a huge verse) I decouple land for a smoother one movement landing and third person large vehicles, Mouse n keyboard and seeing the 2nd landing it hits a big "this is very familliar" feel
I am a member of the "Forgot to deploy landing gear." club. The corsair was the best take off. I'd have given it a 10/10 as it was silky smooth.
This displays my problem with star citizen. The flight model is terrible.The reason you don't see smooth landings and takeoff is because there is no point to main engines when you can hover like an UFO in whatever orientation you're in. I end up playing vtol vr way more than star citizen.
NIce Video again! Love seeing the landings and takeoffs with the commentary, Thanks! Keep up the good work.
:D nice this will be a series of its own. After you finish big stations also shoot the mining outposts! I have seen so much weird shit on outposts xD
Gear down, while landing, can be more than aesthetic. SC has three flight modes - coupled, decoupled gear up and decoupled gear down. When landing decoupled gear down will keep ship flying in straight line to land at the point you have chosen - and this is often the method to make the smoothest landing - but your gear must be down.
37:10 most VTOLS on most ships DONT in fact function.
Even the ones you think work, like the Vulture and C2... They dont.
You can check this very easily by landing on a planet (or in zero-g), strafe up without VTOLS, measure the g-forces.
Then repeat with VTOLS, measure the g-forces. You'll see they are identical, meaning identical acceleration / thrust.
They're also the same with boost applied. So i never use the vtols because it's just pointless, they dont function apart from on very very few ships (the Cutlass, Prospector and Carrack being part of the very few, and thats why people can do VTOL turns with them in zero-g combat).
Point of note on landing gear, if like me you fly decoupled (I have my settings on decoupled by default) then leaving the gear down a bit longer allows smoother flight while you move out from the LZ.
Hate landing the Carrack at Teasa. For some reason they always give us a hangar that’s literally gives clearance of inches of the rear and sides, rather than the larger hangar that’s available which would allow safe landing. The craft is on the absolute limit of the large hangar.
It actually puts me off flying that ship, at least until we get a landing computer that will provide us info on the ships position relative to the landing pad.
On other news, absolutely loving this series. Gonna have to up my landing and takeoff game now, just in case you are about.
You need to stay in new baggage, but near plaza. More like a wild land/take off situations...and SO MANY things to talk and comments about on that area
Coming into loreville now absolutely kills my framerate which directly correlates to my mouse scroll to control max speed. It's as bad as 15-20fps and small scrolls turn into big changes when it's lagging and hitching. Otherwise I'm anywhere from 30-100fps everywhere else. Orison is even 40fps for me. They really messed up loreville and no my clouds are already off. 6700xt is like minimum spec now. The directx12 and vulcan should help also.
"Pull that gear up..." xD
I ain't got time to be messing with landing gear, I let the quantum jump raise it for me!!! 🤣
If you are in an 890, you must demonstrate your superiority by rising up above all the unwashed peasants before starting your journey!
I just started the game last week you probably got me on my first few tries at flights lol Mr aurora on it's top clipped the hangar and crashed I love the game so much already and I hate it so much but I'm going to stick with it I remember when this game first released on alpha I never tried it then it's sad to still see it in alpha maybe in the next 10 or 12 years it might make it to beta
Having seen some of these take-offs and landings, I feel much better about my own flying ability...
Kinda sucks we don't have runways or the ability taixy in, for ships which are meant to land of landing gears.
Such a wierd concept for content you choose. LOVE IT lol. Really am shocked that I actually enjoy watching it with your commentary. Great job and surprised how it entertained me. o7
Thought that carrack might have been me at start, i do the hover thing often to drop off loot . But i never did that spin trick. Gonna have to try it soon. Also didnt know i wanted this kind of content. Thanks.
So I was on microtech with my Gemini once the land gear hit the lip of the hangar it flipped started clipping through the ground and caused a 30k
Oddly satisfying to watch lol
Maybe they should have damage to gear when flying fast inside atmosphere at a higher speed. Then the folks would remember to lift it on take off.
I'm pretty sure that carrack was me.
I was teaching a friend how to fly and when they took the pilot seat they did the roll over and i was screaming the whole time.
Tbh sometimes I have trouble finding the airport so I request it as soon as I can. But with lorville or new babbage it’s a little easier
the only reason id be sitting in hangar with door open is when im fighting with the mobiglass path finding..... landing though sometimes finding the spaceport the first few times is rough
everyone who is into SC and any flight sim, should go to their local small airport and do a discovery flight.
Too bad they didn't make the vertical hangars basically horizontal hangers just on their sides. They have the gravity tech to do it. All they would have to do is transition people back to a horizontal state before they leave the hangar.
I'm surprised they haven't implemented systems to help people land in the vertical hangars when they already had it in the game before. It's a pretty important step to the gameplay.
This is the frustrating thing about landing the Carrack. they stretched it to the max dimensions for the Large Hanger, and if the ship is not perfectly centered, it will clip on the mouth of the hanger, and then the gravity will pull the ship down and it will get stuck.
Who else is watching this suddenly self conscious about their take offs/landings now, lol
Decoupled should be the norm i think, we could see a new type of art-landing.
I have to admit I landed at Lorvile quite a few times hoping you'd catch me and rate my landing! I love your videos, your commentary especially!
external pads at cities would be nice. I always use them at stations for quick stops.
Man I have been trying to do better landings now that I know someone is watching. LOL.
is this a regular thing you do, would love you to observe if my landing technique is right or wrong lol
They really need more room on those hangars, that caterpillar and carrack were way too tight fore/aft.
Watching people landing - take off while listening moonlight sonata would be great
I get nervous everytime I leave or arrive. Thinking you might be watching lol
Can you do one from NBIS ? At least you get some side hangars as well as top entry?
Instructional, entertaining iconic 👏 concepts. More please 🙏
Amazing seeing the dust flow with the wind over the hangar doors, you dont see that when you just boost in for a landing fast.
The Lorville hangars are the worst for landing a Carrack there is no clearance from any side
Landing gear comes down early on ships to compensate for gravity while decoupled.
A ship damaged pretty badly will need to come in very slow....
Hopefully they'll bring the landing ui (with the new tech) back soon.
keep these type of vids coming!! Totally cool! Thanks!
Yes! I love these videos
The Vulture near the end was pure class, so funny not realising you're sat in the middle of the ship.
I never imagined how much I would enjoy this.....
Piloting should only be done in first person. - this is the way.
29:30 was really cool
If only turning the clouds off was a option IRL!
As regards the "pad hesitation" or delay on touchdown, the pilot could possibly be doing the old "hover above the pad" to repair/refuel. I know I've had to do it recently with the way some stations won't offer the option. It's something we used to have to do on some previous patches.
Yup I still do it if I am missing a weapon. Repairing before touchdown restores missing weapon. If you land it before repairing it will just repair the ship but you will still miss a weapon.
New job unlocked, Plane observation!
c2 landing in those tight hangars is tricky!
We Connie pilots know our ships! It is one of the oldest so we've had years to perfect it. This and part 1 was surprisingly enjoyable. Id watch more.
Eesh, wrote the above after seeing the first Connie. The second one embarrassed us all.
Cig devs must do the same experience, watching how peoples actually play because each gamer are not a trained pilot.
They could increase the size of hangar to make takeoff / landing easier.
The videos and screenshots CIG release show the pads being raised to the surface, where once landed the pad can be lowered into the hanger
At the moment, the red best-in-show paint on the Carrack is broken. If you fly with the paint in a hangar, you can no longer control the carrack and behaves unpredictably also you can not start the carrack with the paint.
me too
Just subbed.
Can't wait for more...
my gear moves same time i call act it bound to f3
these are fun to watch. Thanks for the video.