My 2 cents is leave Scooter for the humorous stuff and be yourself for the game play stuff, but it's your channel so do what you want. We will watch them either way. EDIT: I humbly yield to the majority - Bring on Scooter!
@@UncommonGeek Considering how many changes are applied to the game, it might be relatively new. There was so much discussion about decoupled in atmo a while ago. EDIT: At least 12 months ago. - So yes, possibly very new - in Star Citizen dev time.
Been here since AC was our only way to play. Never knew this was an option. I've performed similar maneuvers manually, but I had no clue the ship would decelerate for you in that configuration. That's an awesome feature, and I really look forward to CIG coming up with a series of advanced tutorials at some point which explain things like this.
Is vector adjustment a keybind too, or how were you doing the fine tuning? Mind blown, also been playing since all we had was a hangar module! And yes, Scooter should teach a class on Brios “legitimate sales” hot drop vectored landings
WOW! Epic memory of ArcCorp. Thank You for that. I remember the ArcCorp module. I was floored when CIG finally dropped the real ArcCorp though. I’m personally in the business, and everyone where I work is just blown away by ArcCorp. It shouldn’t be possible. Yet there she is.
Great video! Another tip is you can feather spacebrake as you come in for the vector lock landing - the flight computer will thrust exactly opposite your vector when you press spacebrake, so give it a couple taps and feather your speed down to below 5m/s or so for a soft landing.
Just be careful in hangers when taking off, if decoupled, once you gear up, its the opposite of this vector mode, in an environment with gravity, so youll go from stable hover (gear down) to dropping like a rock once you bring gear up!
@@wisnuzaene So as long as your gear is down, your IFCS is online, so youll hold a stable hover w/o input (only in hangers, the wind if outside will move you laterally) and you can hover indefinately, until you run outve fuel.
I decouple when I land most of the time with Keyboard and mouse. Noticed in recent patches entering hangers the gravity has a weird effect on the speed so always keep ready for sudden changes. Its fun when you get use to it and you go in at speed, slow right down and drop the landing gear just before touch down to make that sci-fi movie landing... not as practical and can cause "stress" if something goes wrong you have no real time to act so I drop my gear before entering hangers.
This is really useful. I made the switch to HOTAS so I can fly and maneuver more smoothly but landing always felt awkward to me (I come in and hat down). I think I'll practice this since it'll handy for hot dropping people and cargo.
I just got my dual flight sticks over a month ago, really nervous about switching from m&kb so I haven't even opened them yet. Been using the excuse of "I'm waiting on my new desk", but I really need to go ahead and make the change. I had no idea vector landing was a thing. Looking forward to attempting this.
I only land in vector mode and use VTOL (K) when I do stuff with my RAFT it's really awesome to see, it does not takes too long to learn it, and you can also leave the cockpit when you are confident enough with this manouver.
Must look funny when the ship is in landing approach and the pilot is already standing on the elevator or ramp. Although not that feasible recently with ships being a big nervous on the ground if the engines aren't turned off.
Wookie, you may not be an expert sweaty pilot but that little, straight talkin' tutorial I completely understood. That I really appreciate. Thanks man, I want to start practicing some fancy dandy landings now. Really cool knowledge to share. 😄👍
I had heard about an autolanding feature but I genuinely thought it was broken or not implemented. I had no idea it was like this. Never seen this before. This is fucking awesome.
Wow, I never messed with vector landing, I'd only heard of it. Thanks for an informative video! Not like I don't thoroughly enjoy your Scooter videos. But variety is good. Especially when it's helpful.
this makes sense but it's just something I've never experimented with, I have sticks but don't use em on SC due to the in and out nature of on foot/in ship. very well explained to someone who's got not a cluhe about anything, and explaining why it is
Loved the explanation. Been doing this myself for a while now to land perfectly and softly at refinery stations with a quant filled Prospector. Defiantly hoping to see a Scooter branded crash course on this and other tips and tricks to "nava'gatin" the verse.
OMG, super-appreciated advice! I wouldn't have expected the game to be developed that cleverly there to modify how decoupled works when having landing gear out! I like flying in style but with KBAM, so I will make plenty of use of this. Makes me wonder who coded this (probably communicated through Yogi Klatt) and for how long it is in the game. (EDIT: Found an Old Man Gamer video from 11 months ago, so it's not a new thing, except maybe in Star Citizen development time.) …And now I found a 12 months old one from ArmoredGenie. OK, it's been around for a while.
Been doing this for quite a while now, but never noticed that it negates gravity when landing gear is down. Also the Flight Vector Setting helps alot, not only for landing.
Nice tutorial, I found some time ago that decoupled landing is much smoother and easier than coupled, because you don't have to worry about speed that much, as you don't adjust it actively, all you need is to place your ship parallel to the landing plane and slow down so you don't bounce and take damage. Great guide!
What the hell?? I just logged off while half watching your vid but now Im going back in to test that shit right away!! Dunno how "easy" and "doable" itll be with bigger ships but I gotta try that!
With this I can let one of my friends fly again and we'll be way less likely to die. Thought this was some advanced thing when Yogi brought it up at Citcon. Had no idea it was this easy.
Ho wow! That's awesome. I had so much work to make it look like that withouy your technique. I'll train and try to do it putting out the landing gear at the last moment to have some cinematic landings. 😉👍🏾
Thanks for the video! That is a nice technique, and I definitely want to practice it. For some reason I didn't even think to try decoupled mode in this manner, even though I partially utitilised it sometimes.
Very useful video! Thanks a lot for making it and explaining that maneuver so clearly. 👍 ( I also did not know it was a thing until a couple of days ago)
well i didnt know this was a thing despite being an old backer but i guess i have a reason to actually use decoupled now haha. thanks for the short and simple video
I've never touched decoupled mode in all my years of playing this alpha. Just learned something new. I might. Might give this a go. Although I still miss the old underside landing screen we used to have.
You may or may not know. For Keyboard and Mouse users you can control your thrust amount as well which helps alot with landing softly to reduce the jerkiness of always using full throttle.
This is nice until you go down too fast and as a result you can't slow down quickly enough because you decreased the acceleration on your thrusters. Use a keyboard and mouse if you strictly have to but if you like this game, or any other space game with 6 degrees of freedom, consider investing in two sticks, it'll make your hobby a lot more enjoyable.
@@marcdingena3920 lol you just increase it again. You adjust it as needed. Pretty easy and for some kb and mouse is enough. Hell some prefer xbox controllers, so to each their own about what they find enjoyable.
This will help massivly. Also i dont know if other people do this. But i tend to land with my rear gear first. Only problem with that in CFM is sometimes the ships gear touches the ground, then yhe ships flight computer cuts engine power and slams the nose gear into the deck.
As a M+KB player this is how Ive done first person landing in all the times a played. Its the most rewarding 100%. I also add in thruster adjustments with RALT and Mouse wheel.
I think you have proximity assist turned on? That's an important distinction to make, since it slows you down when near surfaces. Many people have it turned off due to large/capital ships having trouble taking off in hangars. I'd posit that it's still possible to do, just that you'd need to make use of the airbrake.
How do you turn proximity assist on is it a toggle somewhere in the settings? Sry if I missed it in the video just skipped through it because I was slightly intrigued
Yup mine is on in the video but yes it would still work the same and your right you want to use the braking because you would come in a little faster with it off.
Cheers for the video :) I fly mouse and keyboard but used to be able to land pretty well with the throttle limiter once they introduced it i'd just come in and set that limiter then land pretty smoothly... then they changed how the limiter worked and it's back to the old paint shaker landings so i'd been trying to land decoupled xD you filled in a few gaps and saved me some time there.
@@DZasterTV There's a few ships and hangers i wont do it in because there seem to be some bugs with it coming in and out of a hanger but otherwise yeah it looks and feels much smother to land this way. Get the warm fuzzy feeling of a good landing xD
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If yall wanna see Scooter explain this leave a comment and I will see if he can teach a class lol.
My 2 cents is leave Scooter for the humorous stuff and be yourself for the game play stuff, but it's your channel so do what you want. We will watch them either way.
EDIT: I humbly yield to the majority - Bring on Scooter!
Oh man I'd love to see scooter explain this haha
Don’t tease me.
Yes please
Tell 'em scooter scooter taught ya!!
I've dumped close to 1000 hours in this game but I had NO IDEA you could do that! Thank you!
No problem!
I've been in game almost 2 years and never knew anything about this. Very cool. Thank Scooter for me.
I've been playing since Alpha 2.3 and I never knew this!
I was Like… wooooow
Same here, this blows my mind!
I’ve been playing since 3.16, and didn’t know…
@@UncommonGeek Considering how many changes are applied to the game, it might be relatively new. There was so much discussion about decoupled in atmo a while ago.
EDIT: At least 12 months ago. - So yes, possibly very new - in Star Citizen dev time.
This is probably the best small tidbit of SC info I have ever seen...I'm not gonna tell anyone and just make it look like I am a superior pilot.
Been here since AC was our only way to play. Never knew this was an option. I've performed similar maneuvers manually, but I had no clue the ship would decelerate for you in that configuration. That's an awesome feature, and I really look forward to CIG coming up with a series of advanced tutorials at some point which explain things like this.
He used spacebreaks. Ship will not decelerate automatically, maybe proximity assist could help, but i didn't tested it.
Exactly it helps some but space brakes is what I used to slow down the most with. I have a key bind for it.
Is vector adjustment a keybind too, or how were you doing the fine tuning? Mind blown, also been playing since all we had was a hangar module! And yes, Scooter should teach a class on Brios “legitimate sales” hot drop vectored landings
WOW! Epic memory of ArcCorp. Thank You for that.
I remember the ArcCorp module.
I was floored when CIG finally dropped the real ArcCorp though.
I’m personally in the business, and everyone where I work is just blown away by ArcCorp.
It shouldn’t be possible.
Yet there she is.
@@stoneguard It's just decoupled, if u are on m+kb, u just quickly pressing buttons, and watch yr vector indicator.
Great video! Another tip is you can feather spacebrake as you come in for the vector lock landing - the flight computer will thrust exactly opposite your vector when you press spacebrake, so give it a couple taps and feather your speed down to below 5m/s or so for a soft landing.
Best vector landing video so far, thanks.
Just be careful in hangers when taking off, if decoupled, once you gear up, its the opposite of this vector mode, in an environment with gravity, so youll go from stable hover (gear down) to dropping like a rock once you bring gear up!
is decoupled with gear down will hover indefinetely or will it just slowly went down?
@@wisnuzaene Indefinitely. Decoupled with lading gear out is essentially like coupled mode for your hovering thrusters.
@@AbuN4z1r ahh great to know thanks
@@wisnuzaene So as long as your gear is down, your IFCS is online, so youll hold a stable hover w/o input (only in hangers, the wind if outside will move you laterally) and you can hover indefinately, until you run outve fuel.
Something pretty complex made so simple. Your explanation added to the simplicity even further.
Thx Brother
Glad it helped
1.200 hours in SC and somehow I missed this. Thank you!
I decouple when I land most of the time with Keyboard and mouse. Noticed in recent patches entering hangers the gravity has a weird effect on the speed so always keep ready for sudden changes.
Its fun when you get use to it and you go in at speed, slow right down and drop the landing gear just before touch down to make that sci-fi movie landing... not as practical and can cause "stress" if something goes wrong you have no real time to act so I drop my gear before entering hangers.
This is really useful. I made the switch to HOTAS so I can fly and maneuver more smoothly but landing always felt awkward to me (I come in and hat down). I think I'll practice this since it'll handy for hot dropping people and cargo.
a left stick is really better than a throttle in SC,
I just got my dual flight sticks over a month ago, really nervous about switching from m&kb so I haven't even opened them yet. Been using the excuse of "I'm waiting on my new desk", but I really need to go ahead and make the change. I had no idea vector landing was a thing. Looking forward to attempting this.
Holy crap, 2014 backer here and never knew! I need to go out and try this! Vid will be shared!
I only land in vector mode and use VTOL (K) when I do stuff with my RAFT
it's really awesome to see, it does not takes too long to learn it, and you can also leave the cockpit when you are confident enough with this manouver.
Must look funny when the ship is in landing approach and the pilot is already standing on the elevator or ramp.
Although not that feasible recently with ships being a big nervous on the ground if the engines aren't turned off.
How have I been playing the game for as long as I have and not known about this. Thanks for the vid, gonna try this right now!
Yeah. I've been doing vector landing for a while now. Its super sexy.
😮 wait whaaaaaaat!!?? I 😅 never knew about this.....thanks to you I have to learn!!
Happy to help!
This is going to be a game changer for me doing hot drops in the Valkyrie once i have the hang of it!
wow 1st time in my 5yrs of playing to learn this..thank you, thank you!
How on earth did I not know this! Very useful video 👍
holy sheit, that cool ! As an old Elite Dangerous player, i was confortable enough to land fairly easily but i need to try this asap ! thanks :)
I did this on accident and tried for a little while to recreate my actions with no luck.
Thank you for this video!
Wookie, you may not be an expert sweaty pilot but that little, straight talkin' tutorial I completely understood. That I really appreciate. Thanks man, I want to start practicing some fancy dandy landings now. Really cool knowledge to share. 😄👍
Happy to help!
I second this, appreciate the no nonsense tutorial! Great work @wickedwookie!
I had heard about an autolanding feature but I genuinely thought it was broken or not implemented.
I had no idea it was like this. Never seen this before.
This is fucking awesome.
VERY nice example at the end!
But a distinct lack of southern twang in this video.
Don’t worry we will have Scooter explain it better lol
I fly decoupled quite a bit, but I did not know that you'd maintain a vector if the landing gear was deployed. This is a game changer! Thanks.
Superb tutorial, been here years and never knew this lol. Thanks Scooter! 😁🤘🏼
I always use the vector indicator but I had no idea the landing computer kept the vector locked like that, awesome!
That's awesome, I've never heard of this before, but I'll def be trying it from now on
Wow, I never messed with vector landing, I'd only heard of it. Thanks for an informative video! Not like I don't thoroughly enjoy your Scooter videos. But variety is good. Especially when it's helpful.
this makes sense but it's just something I've never experimented with, I have sticks but don't use em on SC due to the in and out nature of on foot/in ship.
very well explained to someone who's got not a cluhe about anything, and explaining why it is
I forgot this was a thing. Might have to try it out
With the Syulen out now this has become EXTREMELY useful. Thanks so much!!
Wow thats so good to know. I always land manually but usually it takes a some 3rd person views to land right.
I didnt realize that gear out decoupled was different than gear up. Used it on stations, but never planets.
Holy crap this is a huge landing feature, thanks for highlighting it!
Wow, thanks. I didn't know this was a thing. I'm gonna practice this as my gameplay loop now.
Loved the explanation. Been doing this myself for a while now to land perfectly and softly at refinery stations with a quant filled Prospector. Defiantly hoping to see a Scooter branded crash course on this and other tips and tricks to "nava'gatin" the verse.
Well, I guess you really do learn something new every day! 👍
There is not a lot of people who do not know about this. Thanks for sharing the information so we can start seeing some less janky landings. ;)
Every time I think I've become a decent pilot I find some giant-brain shit like this and realize how bad I am xD
Sweet! You've convinced me to come back to decoupled! 😊
Thank you so much for addressing this, now the game would be 5x more immersive with fewer players doing that stop and go thing lol
Thanks to the algorithm for sending me this beautiful tutorial to show my friend how I'am a very cool pilot 😂
OMG, super-appreciated advice! I wouldn't have expected the game to be developed that cleverly there to modify how decoupled works when having landing gear out! I like flying in style but with KBAM, so I will make plenty of use of this.
Makes me wonder who coded this (probably communicated through Yogi Klatt) and for how long it is in the game. (EDIT: Found an Old Man Gamer video from 11 months ago, so it's not a new thing, except maybe in Star Citizen development time.)
…And now I found a 12 months old one from ArmoredGenie. OK, it's been around for a while.
Been doing this for quite a while now, but never noticed that it negates gravity when landing gear is down. Also the Flight Vector Setting helps alot, not only for landing.
i didn't know this was a thing...as janky as it is, SC has some amazing features :O
perfection. straight to the point. love it
I would love to see a series of piloting tips and tricks (including vector landing) taught by Scooter.
Nice tutorial, I found some time ago that decoupled landing is much smoother and easier than coupled, because you don't have to worry about speed that much, as you don't adjust it actively, all you need is to place your ship parallel to the landing plane and slow down so you don't bounce and take damage. Great guide!
man this was really neat! Would love to hear scooters take on this! :D
This is the best looking way to land! I never knew this was a thing.
i just got some new VKB NXT GLADIATORS EVOs Dual Sticks With the Omni throttle . Cant Wait to implement this , Thals for the vid
That’s what use but not the Omni I have left and right gladiators with pedals
Nice, meemaw will be proud.
I've been tap slapping ctrl and wasd for far too long to get smooth landings. This is great, thanks!
What the hell??
I just logged off while half watching your vid but now Im going back in to test that shit right away!!
Dunno how "easy" and "doable" itll be with bigger ships but I gotta try that!
With this I can let one of my friends fly again and we'll be way less likely to die. Thought this was some advanced thing when Yogi brought it up at Citcon. Had no idea it was this easy.
I've been playing for years and never knew this, lol
Learned something great today. Thanks.
Wow, that's super awesome! I just got back into SC after a couple years. Appreciate you making the video! RLTW
Holy shit that is so cool, thanks for showing this! Cant wait to blow myself up constantly trying to do this and show-off to friends!
I learned something new. Thanks!
I've been playing since 2018 and never knew this 😮. Thanks!
Wow, this is a fantastic tutorial! Never knew this.
Ho wow! That's awesome. I had so much work to make it look like that withouy your technique.
I'll train and try to do it putting out the landing gear at the last moment to have some cinematic landings. 😉👍🏾
This is sooo cool! Going to try now and teach all my friends how to do it! Awesome work! Thank you very much for that ^^
Learn something new every day :). Thank you
Dude, this is sweet -played for a long time - did'nt know how to do this :) Thx
No problem!
At this point I don't even know if I'm breathing correctly. 😂
Thank you!
Thanks for the video! That is a nice technique, and I definitely want to practice it. For some reason I didn't even think to try decoupled mode in this manner, even though I partially utitilised it sometimes.
Really cool video, thanks a bunch!
Never knew about this and I have flight sticks too! Been playing for years. Thanks Wicked! Gonna mention this video on a future KingKiryuin stream!
Awesome glad I could help!
I backed in late 2012 and had NEVER even heard of this before... 😲
Very useful video! Thanks a lot for making it and explaining that maneuver so clearly. 👍 ( I also did not know it was a thing until a couple of days ago)
Glad it was helpful!
well i didnt know this was a thing despite being an old backer but i guess i have a reason to actually use decoupled now haha. thanks for the short and simple video
I've never touched decoupled mode in all my years of playing this alpha.
Just learned something new. I might. Might give this a go. Although I still miss the old underside landing screen we used to have.
Wow, didn't even know this was possible, thanks for this.
oh man! that’s such a useful feature! so cool, thanks for explaining it
No problem!
Thanks for the good info!
You may or may not know. For Keyboard and Mouse users you can control your thrust amount as well which helps alot with landing softly to reduce the jerkiness of always using full throttle.
This is nice until you go down too fast and as a result you can't slow down quickly enough because you decreased the acceleration on your thrusters. Use a keyboard and mouse if you strictly have to but if you like this game, or any other space game with 6 degrees of freedom, consider investing in two sticks, it'll make your hobby a lot more enjoyable.
@@marcdingena3920 lol you just increase it again. You adjust it as needed. Pretty easy and for some kb and mouse is enough. Hell some prefer xbox controllers, so to each their own about what they find enjoyable.
This will help massivly. Also i dont know if other people do this. But i tend to land with my rear gear first. Only problem with that in CFM is sometimes the ships gear touches the ground, then yhe ships flight computer cuts engine power and slams the nose gear into the deck.
As a M+KB player this is how Ive done first person landing in all the times a played. Its the most rewarding 100%. I also add in thruster adjustments with RALT and Mouse wheel.
COOL. I have been in the Verse since 2017 and did not know that.... I shall try that. YES, I fly a keyboard and trackball...
Wow, very helpful. Thanks!!!
I use this mode to show off parking my carrack backwards. Fun party trick:)
Wicked! Nice moves, thanks for sharing o7
This technique will be super handy with the new Gatac starter ship!
That was cool. Didnt know vector landings were a thing.
Please do more videos like this. :)
Now I must go try this. Thanks for the new skill to use, at least it will be easier to understand and practice then the combat (PvP) ones.
Wow, that is great advice! ♥ I wonder how atmo flight changes will affect that.
That is a good question lol
That’s so very cool
Going to have to practice this
I think you have proximity assist turned on? That's an important distinction to make, since it slows you down when near surfaces. Many people have it turned off due to large/capital ships having trouble taking off in hangars. I'd posit that it's still possible to do, just that you'd need to make use of the airbrake.
How do you turn proximity assist on is it a toggle somewhere in the settings? Sry if I missed it in the video just skipped through it because I was slightly intrigued
so its in the same menu above where I was showing. It is on by default.
Yup mine is on in the video but yes it would still work the same and your right you want to use the braking because you would come in a little faster with it off.
Let's get some classes from our boy Scooter!
Bloody hell, thanks a lot
Cheers for the video :)
I fly mouse and keyboard but used to be able to land pretty well with the throttle limiter once they introduced it i'd just come in and set that limiter then land pretty smoothly... then they changed how the limiter worked and it's back to the old paint shaker landings so i'd been trying to land decoupled xD you filled in a few gaps and saved me some time there.
Do you land decoupled every time now?
@@DZasterTV There's a few ships and hangers i wont do it in because there seem to be some bugs with it coming in and out of a hanger but otherwise yeah it looks and feels much smother to land this way.
Get the warm fuzzy feeling of a good landing xD
I can't wait to practise this!
Bro this is great
you are a gentlemen and a scholar
I’ve been playing since 3.16, and didn’t know this. I’ve got to try this out. Yes, definitely have Scooter explain it. Haha.