I'm really proud of this wideo, so I hope you like how it turned out! This is my first time doing scripted content - let me know if you like this style, it's not something I'll use as default ever but it might be good to sprinkle in content like this here and there. Edited by Uzi: twitter.com/TheUzigunner Intro by Gio: twitter.com/the_one_gio
So basically, Kyogre floods the planet with the help of Clefairy and the lions all drown and then Smeargle and Oranguru are like “that was sick bro! Do it again!”
My favorite part about this whole argument is the claim that “pokemon wouldn’t be able to work together because they need a trainer they’d just kill each other” and then turn around and insinuate that lions are smart enough to make a giant ball/ladder
Wolfey: "We're not using the Pokedex, that'd be ridiculous". Kyogre: Fucking floods the entire universe three times over with the help of fairies and monkeys.
@@Kingambit7 yup, but it's an egg move so you need to put a basculegion with a mirror herb and an open move slot in a picnic with a houndstone that knows last respects for it to actually be able to use the move.
Groudon: "Did we do it?" Rayquaza: "Yes" Groudon: "What did it cost?" Rayquaza: "Your brother probably being dead due to the sheer roids every pokemon gave him"
I was about to say "every pokemon except Kyogre and the ones with Water Absorb" but then realized Wide Guard defends them all against even allied spread moves (I assume?) so they're fine.
The poetry of Kyogre being both the optimal choice from game mechanics side and cannonically 100% capable of drowning a billion lions at once is truely beautiful.
I mean Groudon is also a doomsday scenario for them. Making the sun hot enough to evaporate the oceans has got to be terrible for anything living on land and not having shelter. Especially beings with fur coats. If the lions survived that, they'd be lethargic as heck
@@BurakkuHishou yeah hes much more debatable though. One of the best arguments for the lions is that they kill the pokemon in 5 minutes. Kyogre's water stops that in its tracks but Groudon's heat wave hasn't really shown to be that quick. Maybe lava stops them but lion bridge over it honestly isn't unrealistic unlike the ladder.
"Let's ignore the pokedex because its literally impossible and super exaggerated" *constructs a set up that has enough power to destroy all life in the universe in 1 hit*
@@TMega5612 True, but he said he wasnt going to use the lore to avoid a situation like this. But somehow we ended up in a situation like this anyways. Its just kind of ironic
I still like the idea of magcargo just slowly crawling towards the lions and they all burst into flames when they're like 30 feet away. Just slowly gets closer and one by one, they just explode.
I like the idea of the lions bumrushing 998 Pokemon, until finally there is a single Pidgey floating high above the field, it's wings slowly giving out. Below it, a billion lions circle one very scared Gardevoir...
@@Superbug-tf8zy 1 billion lions wouldn't cooperate either. If anything the lions would be fighting each other for territory as well as leadership. Pokemon would barely have to get involved.
intimidation takes about 2 seconds in gen 6 and after, there are 32 pokemon that can have intimidate, provided that all pokemon in one evolution line can be included at the same time. there are 1 billion lions, so intimidate will be done 32 billion times. if every pokemon that can learn intimidate actually has intimidate, it would take 64 billion seconds / 740,740.74 days / 2,028.04 years
First thoughts: There are pokemon that can fly and have range. What are lions gonna do? Wolfe: Proceeds to explain how Kyogre is going to 1-shot all lions in one turn.
I mean, yeah, it's a point that rayquaza could probably just camp in the sky. Well, I guess it couldn't if we're talking game mechanics, but still, it's something to consider.
Lion ladders is perfect for the pokemon. Bunch as many lions as possible together, probably have a good number taken out from their own weight. Meanwhile, the flyers will use the miraculous 200IQ move of not staying in one spot. On the other hand, the lions might have Scar on their side. He could use his earth bending powers to move the ground closer to the flying pokemon.
Well... If you've ever done any form of competitive battling, you would know that Setting up is a big importance. You have trick room setups, Mimikyu sweeps, Mould Breaker counter, you have Shuckle, Entry traps, Shadow tag, trapping moves, just to name a few.
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this comment. Same with the damage roll. The lowest possible damage roll is x0.85 or 85% or a reduction of 15%. Yet, Wolfey said it's a reduction of 85% in this video. Thank god, calculators still calculate numbers correctly regardless of human error. Still love you Wolfey, keep rocking, stay safe.
The best part is there are more than a few Pokémon fully capable of coming up with a plan like this. Like even if the actual IQ of your average Alakazam is vastly overestimated, it’d still be smart enough to figure a strategy like this out, especially if it had help from other hyper-intelligent Pokémon like Slowking or Metagross
@@goggles8691 It does indeed. There are restrictions to what Magic Room is able to turn off, and among the items it cannot disable are the Primal Reversion orbs, Mega Stones, and Z Crystals.
@@echo-rose Additionally, Primal Kyogre would go through its primal reversion before magic room ever went up, because it activates as kyogre hits the battlefield, so even if magic room stopped blue orb from activating, it wouldn't apply in this scenario.
Kyogre: Have you ever been hit by the end of the universe twice in a row? Lions: No Oranguru: *W* *O* *U* *L* *D* *Y* *O* *U* *L* *I* *K* *E* *T* *O* *?* Smeargle: Laughs in the background
imagine just trowing all of those spindas them role play kingambit por the ability that makes u do 1.1x damage per fianted pokemon and the role play again on for example groudon
@@GLiTX2527 uncultured swine (don't get offended it's a joke of wolfey intentionally having bad pronunciations of certain words, this is why he pronounces youtubers as youtubists and video as wideo also having horrendous pokemon pronunciations like arca-ni-ne unlike arca-nine)
If you consider a regular pokemon needs a 75 base power to kill one single lion, since it's super effective, raising it's power to 150, that means the same regular pokemon would need 150000000000 power to kill 1 billion of them off of any spread move. To achieve that result, we would only need to gather 36/38 pokémon intelligent enough to cast helping hand on the same pokémon
Any pokemon with Snow warning would drop the temperature of the battle field to below freezing, causing the lions to die of hypothermia A single snover could kill a billion lions
@@blizzard2508-k7n But even still, Kyogre could flood the entire universe 3x over, and even if the lions didn't die instantly from the water pressure that could crush an entire semi truck, and they could somehow swim, Lions like any other animal cannot swim forever and compared to the entire Universe they can swim a very very very small amount before their legs give out and they proceed to drown.
Summarizing: Kyogre floods everything 2 Pokemon incentivate two extra floods 308 Pokemon help him 3 Pokemon defend 3 Pokemon break possible defenses The others cheer from the sidelines
@@lovelyluna773 yep, precisely why that argument makes no sense. saying that they could jump wouldn’t make sense as lions wouldn’t be able to cooperate and there’s too much weight
@@sodaleopard yeah, not to mention that many pokemon can easily move/fly WAAAY more fast than a lion, I don't understand why people doesn't realize this thing that can easily would give the lion the L
@@notauri1693 even if we dont use the pokedex there are pokemon that display universal ingame feats such as dialga or palkia. theres also the fact roar of times descrption states: a roar of time that distorts time itself. POKEMON STOMP
I always found this debate dumb, until it became a joke. Then I loved it. Because there are a few people who take this seriously and believe that the lions can win, let alone live. There is a magma snail hotter than the sun; literal gods of time, space, dimension, and also _the_ God; a waifumon that can summon black holes at will; and an undead bug that the lions wouldn’t even be able to damage
@@sinteleon I am assuming that lions do not have magical powers, thus anything they do is considered “normal”. Even an action like biting, which is a dark type move that would work against Shedinja, is “normal” because there is no magic behind it. And “normal”, be it the type or just existing as a regular state, cannot damage Shedinja. It is both the action and the fact that Pokémon are magical creatures that give moves their types. For example, what makes bite different from bug bite, thus permitting different typings? It’s used by a bug type Pokémon, of course! So then why doesn’t “bite” become bug bite when used by a bug type Pokémon? Because although some qualifications were fulfilled, you still need the magic aspect. A regular lion, backed into a corner, desperately struggling does not mean he is suddenly using a bug type move. He is a lion, lacking entirely in magic. There his struggling is a regular state of struggling, “normal”, and not the magic “normal” energy nor the magic “bug” energy. I probably could have said this in a way simpler way, but basically the TL;DR is that regular Earth lions from our universe possess zero magical abilities and thus cannot apply Pokémon types to their actions such as “biting” or “struggling”
@@guts60 struggle isn't bug type, it's typeless, and bypasses most typing checks, including wonder guard. It's literally used when there is no other moves available to be used (aka no more of this magic thing you count as moves), which in this case, counts. If anything, if we go by your logic, regular normal type moves are still magic, and anything the lion does would fall into the same category as struggle, because it by definition is used when there is no more magic left. (and yes, normal type moves should be considered magic, like hyper beam and leer whatnot)
@@maxdrags3115 it's a trap, the nuke need at least one people to activate it. Though in one billion people there _will_ be at least one dumbass activating the nuke.
And that the previously mentioned Oranguru has been seen participating in battles as the part of a trainer, sending out Pokémon and giving out move commands.
this response was one of the most generous responses in the lions favor i've seen and it still ended in an overwelming victory for the pokemon, i don't see how anyone can think the lions have a chance
Sorry johnny, but the reason you broke yah legs is because you couldn't clearly see how the lions would win, its quite obvious. Goddamit the first joestar to let me down...
@@colmlooney5843 how do they win? Lion stack? Lions can only hold up to 2000LB and the average lion is 400LB meaning the first Lion would be crushed and throw the stack off balance once more than 5 lions get on the stack, also how would they stack? Would the lions climb up each other? Lion shield? Them forming a massive shield would just make them a bigger target and they wouldn't increase in density, how would they survive the planet being flooded by Kyogre or being torn to shreds by a thousand earthquakes? Hell, how would they survive being just fucking deleted from existence by God?
But he's wrong. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Water_Spout_(move) If you see the target area on the right side, you see how it doesn't affect the 3rd foe to the right, meaning that water spout's range is limited to a maximum of 3 foes.
@@harpot678 You're right. All lions would have to be adjacent for them to all be hit, which isn't possible. In a 3D scenario, each water spout could kill up to 8 lions.
@@diogoalves9284 even without using pokedex there is no way real life animals can stand up to Pokemons. What are you gonna do if dragon types started raining meteors? Or fire type start using eruption?
In certain cases they don’t even have to win the battle, some Pokemon, arguably just can’t lose. What are the lions really going to do against a metacross, the line that can fly through a moving plane without getting as much as a scratch.
when that happens, the second water spout hits, then when they get their next boost THE NEXT instruct hits. Then when they attack they can't do anything and the pain begins again
What I like about this is that due to the nature of spread moves, the lions are screwed no matter how many there are. Whether it’s 1 lion, 1 billion, or 1 octillion the outcome is the same.
He forgot to mention that imposter ditto can just transform into oranguru or smeargle , adding one more instruct. Mew could also transform, but there’s a likelihood that battle already ended.
@@pt3391 "Ladder" is a term used for the ranked system in a lot of games. In pokemon, the ranked system is organized into tiers based on different pokeballs, with masterball being the highest and pokeball being the lowest.
@@theanti-baloon716 I'm not sure about flying types but I have heard the argument of when the lion dies it turns into a ghost thus be able to fight ghost types
@@alexander1274Because lions biting won’t be a dark type move, it wouldn’t even affect ghost types. Or will it *vsauce music plays* Because lions aren’t Pokemon, they won’t be normal types. That means they’re typeless. Typeless moves hit ghost types.
@@colmlooney5843 Arceus is literally shown to be god in the anime games and Pokedex and has infinite power, Arceus can literally just delete the lions from existence
@@hiddendraco2607 This was the one reply thread where we weren't madly throwing cobbled-together bits of logic at each other and I found it quite refreshing, so please don't take it seriously, thank you
For the people who think " what about water spout hitting allies since it hits everything around? " Or whatever, there is an ability that a few pokemon have that prevents damaging allies
I know how the lions can win. They simply need around 10^64 lions because that’s how many lions it takes to recreate the Big Bang and completely obliterate all the Pokémon
That was actually a trillion lions, it’s a common mistake to mix up these two epic warriors, but there’s a key difference: 1 billion lions is a lot of lions but 1 trillion lions is A LOT of lions
what are the lions gonna do telepathically tell the other lions and somehow talk to each other with an IQ of 20 as an animal even if they could a gust of wind would blow them away/a pidgey or a flying pokemon would just knock them over and the one at the bottom would have so much weight on top of him he'd just fall with the rest.
@@DylanC333 He was talking about the tiering system for online battles in SwSh. There's the Unranked, Poke ball, Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and Master Ball tier.
@@shiinozaki I assumed it was a sort of ranking system but is he just saying that stacking up the lions would barely make then any stronger or is there some other joke here?
@@thespookypissman1749 Yeah, and the Pokemon have multiple Gods on their side that could blow up Earth if they wanted to. Even 7 Billion humans that are smarter and armed with nukes can't beat Gods, how tf will 1 Billion lions who have no intelligence win if the smart ass apes called humans can't?
Me: If the pokemon are allowed to hold items, so are the lions, every lion can hold a focus band. Statistically 10% of the lions will survive resulting in an average of a hundred million lions after one water spout. After three water spouts thanks to instruct, the average lion count is reduced to one million lions, which is still sufficient to KO every remaining pokemon. Wolfey: Magic room.
its the fact that the kyogre oneshot isnt even all the pokemon. even if you wanna argue wide guard and focus sashes and all that, we have enough pokemon that can move first and break all that before the one shot setup even begins
If there's one of every Pokémon on the field then that means that potentially there are other Pokémon on the field with weather altering abilities. As such, it's entirely possible for it not to be raining despite Kyogre being on the field. If nothing else, Groudon alone has Drought as its only ability, to say nothing of stuff like Hippowdon, Tyranitar and Ninetales. Though all of those are rendered moot by either giving Kyogre the Blue Orb, turning it into Primal Kyogre and activating Primordial Sea, which cannot be overridden by standard weathers - only by Primal Groudon's Desolate Land or Mega Rayquaza's Delta Stream. These too are easily sorted - we just don't give Groudon the Red Orb and don't Mega Evolve Rayquaza. Alternatively, if the Blue Orb isn't an option for whatever reason, we just have one of the other Pokémon that's not doing anything use Rain Dance after Groudon's Drought and any other weather altering abilities have come into play. Going back to Rayquaza, however, he is still technically an issue due to his Air Lock ability, but he's also easily worked around by a Pokémon with Entrainment, Gastro Acid, Simple Beam or Worry Seed. There are various other ways the actual abilities of the other Pokémon in the battle can potentially be a problem (after all, you're using one of EVERY Pokémon), but they're all also easily worked around since you have so many that are just doing nothing.
Alright, with all of this said and done; I really want to see an animation of all of this setup used to take down these lions. It'd be so much work, but be honest it'd be cool as hell seeing every trainer order their one pokémon and having Kyogre deliver the finishing blow
but why do the pokemon moves get to work? why cant we assume the pokemon get put in real life instead of the lions just being other pokemon? its a dumb debate anyways.
Me seeing the video title: "Oh, what a funny meme topic." Wolfe: "First, we need to establish our methodology." Me: "Oh, he's taking this seriously... This just got better."
May I recommend Antimatter Dimensions? In my opinion, best idle game out there. Currently has 1-2 months worth of content (and it only really gets boring at some of the endgame stretches). And if you're playing purely for the big numbers, my endgame save is at 10^287,000,000, compared to Adventure Capitalist capping at 1.8x10^308
@@davidvanboven2576 You didn't watch the entire video, as he specifically mentions that the prompt is not all pokemon vs 1 billion lions 5 at a time, adding in new rules, etc etc. Therefore, anything you say doesn't count because you didn't actually pay attention.
@@ewan1118 in the game, 5 pokemon is the limit only because hordes spawn with up to 5 pokemon. since we're fighting 1 billion pokemon, it can hit all of the pokemon. we're not fighting them one/five at a time.
This is honestly super-high-quality content. It's very well produced, but it flows so naturally. I love the way you took such a serious approach and went really in-depth to make a question that's so silly-sounding at first become genuinely enthralling. You're like the teacher everyone wishes they had in middle school: A teacher that makes class enjoyable by using fun subjects to disguise the fact that we're learning.
And of course DaWoblefet is the teaching assistant who helps make it all possible. Thank you, Mr. Youtubist
@@TheUnderwearSauce if you watched the video they can kill all the lions in 1 turn, and if the lions move first than presumably they also only get 1 move
to make this fair let's make the lion's don't need to sleep and pokemon that are lion join the lion side like solgaleo and then not include mega evo,legendaries, dynamax, z moves, flying pokemon, pokedex entries, surf earthquake magnitude and more not allowed. And then make it 10 billion lions.
@@emmalion1976 and thats what you call fair?negating all the most powerful featufes,a large portion of pokemon(flying pokemon) and legendaries and a move just because it can beat you so you make up the rule that it cant be used?
You are assuming the Pokemon have the mental capacity to use their abilities effectively. Why can a 10 year old child take Arceus captive if it is capable of that kind of thing lol
OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT people keep saying that crunch and bite are dark type moves so they can hit ghost types but shedinja is like no they cant touch me all they can do is cry
I'm really proud of this wideo, so I hope you like how it turned out! This is my first time doing scripted content - let me know if you like this style, it's not something I'll use as default ever but it might be good to sprinkle in content like this here and there.
Edited by Uzi: twitter.com/TheUzigunner
Intro by Gio: twitter.com/the_one_gio
And we're also very proud wolfe
We'll always be proud of you Mr. Glicke!
Gen 5 Lando-t OU
This is great...
I like the style alot, if u sprinkle this in every week I might actually be less bored lmao
So basically, Kyogre floods the planet with the help of Clefairy and the lions all drown and then Smeargle and Oranguru are like “that was sick bro! Do it again!”
Now I'm just imagining Smeargle and Oranguru like Supa Hot Fire's hype men xD
Uhyeah I'll fucken do it again
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Lions will form a raft
@@glarbo3965 and when they do the pokemon would just do it again
My favorite part about this whole argument is the claim that “pokemon wouldn’t be able to work together because they need a trainer they’d just kill each other” and then turn around and insinuate that lions are smart enough to make a giant ball/ladder
wait till they learn about psychic pokemon
@@ianalbertobarrientosfortin6713 Alakazam with 5,000 IQ and ability to communicate with psychically
@@RandomPerson-gf6gd Mewtwo was able to control pokemon I believe.
@@boosterboo6795 yeah
fair argument, but a billion is a lot.
Wolfey: "We're not using the Pokedex, that'd be ridiculous".
Kyogre: Fucking floods the entire universe three times over with the help of fairies and monkeys.
Seems 'bout right.
disclaimer: Lions can swim
@@Kolitj For how long?
Assuming the sudden appearance of water doesn't crush them.
@@Kolitj He can just summon the water above them, water off that size and height can crush cars. Also, normal floods can tear down houses.
@@Kolitj reclaimer: not forever
The lions - ok we've defeated every single pokemon except one
Kingambit- and i took that personally
Basculegion and houndstone just running around hitting everything with 50000 power last respects.
@@BEEEESBasculegion can learn last respects?
@@Kingambit7 yup, but it's an egg move so you need to put a basculegion with a mirror herb and an open move slot in a picnic with a houndstone that knows last respects for it to actually be able to use the move.
@@BEEEES Awesome! I've got to do that!
*uses snarl*
The Pokémon can just strike the lions at night because everyone knows that the lion sleeps tonight
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Give them a 5 hour energy
How the tables turn
Lmao
Groudon: "Did we do it?"
Rayquaza: "Yes"
Groudon: "What did it cost?"
Rayquaza: "Your brother probably being dead due to the sheer roids every pokemon gave him"
groudon:Yay now I can make the entire earth full of land and volcanos and there wont be any water
Groudon: "Did we do it?"
Rayquaza: "Yes"
Groudon: "What did it cost?"
Kyogre: "What do you mean WE"
I was about to say "every pokemon except Kyogre and the ones with Water Absorb" but then realized Wide Guard defends them all against even allied spread moves (I assume?) so they're fine.
@@AlexanderRM1000 that wasn't even a concern anyways, since unlike surf, water spout doesn't hit allies
@@lordspagetti9261 Rayquaza: *slaps groudon* no bad
Groudon: but why not?
Rayquaza: we need to keep the 7/10 meme alive
Kyogre: " You did well to survive that attack. *What will you do about the second one?* "
2 TSUNAMI
If Survived
4 TSUNAMI
if still not dead somehow
8 TSUNAMI
alr this is impossible if their still not dead but
16 TSUNAMI
I'm pretty sure we are talking a big enough Tsuami to more than wipe out the Earth
Lol idk if it was your intention but, I read that clear as day in Madaras voice lol
I guess Kyogre is Madara now
Didnt know the lions were onoki
The poetry of Kyogre being both the optimal choice from game mechanics side and cannonically 100% capable of drowning a billion lions at once is truely beautiful.
Groudon be like: Sorry bro, but my super duper sun is active and you cannot attack
Wait, they didn't have items
I mean Groudon is also a doomsday scenario for them. Making the sun hot enough to evaporate the oceans has got to be terrible for anything living on land and not having shelter. Especially beings with fur coats. If the lions survived that, they'd be lethargic as heck
@@BurakkuHishou yeah hes much more debatable though. One of the best arguments for the lions is that they kill the pokemon in 5 minutes. Kyogre's water stops that in its tracks but Groudon's heat wave hasn't really shown to be that quick. Maybe lava stops them but lion bridge over it honestly isn't unrealistic unlike the ladder.
@davidanderegg1232 I mean, assuming lions are still acting as their natural selves...anything team work based or sacrificial based is unrealistic.
@@BurakkuHishou have you heard their arguments? Realisms long out the window. But them piling on lava til one gets over isn’t that unrealistic
Kyogre: _uses Water Spout_
Oranguru: *"DO IT AGAIN."*
Kyogre: _uses Water Spout again_
Smeargle: *"DO IT AGAIN."*
Lions: _BRUH_
Ditto and mew: *heavy breathing*
@@Panda10million RIGHT! they could transform into Oraguru and Smeargle and just make Kyogre... DO IT AGAIN
@@gacharandom6087 or they could transform into kyogre and have 3 water spouts
@@gg_ez69lol63 but those would only be able to do one water spout, they wouldn’t copy or anything plus no stat boosts for helping hand
@@froggers8945 transformed pokemon have 5 pp on moves lol
That one Pyroar fighting on the side of the pokemon watching his entire species being obliterated into extinction be like: :')
This comment deserves more attention
they are not even extint, they got deleted
Lol
Lol
@@pcu9284 When extinction isn't enough to describe such sad fate.
"Let's ignore the pokedex because its literally impossible and super exaggerated"
*constructs a set up that has enough power to destroy all life in the universe in 1 hit*
...3 times over
lol
This whole argument is literally impossible and super exaggerated.
I mean using the games' lore Palkia, Dialga, Giratina, and Arceus can all do that independently.
@@TMega5612 True, but he said he wasnt going to use the lore to avoid a situation like this. But somehow we ended up in a situation like this anyways. Its just kind of ironic
I still like the idea of magcargo just slowly crawling towards the lions and they all burst into flames when they're like 30 feet away. Just slowly gets closer and one by one, they just explode.
How come I imagined that too lol. Probably a bit more than 30 feet away though. I would imagine Magcargo would burn them all before it even started
For once, you are not the target of the death snail
I like the idea of the lions bumrushing 998 Pokemon, until finally there is a single Pidgey floating high above the field, it's wings slowly giving out. Below it, a billion lions circle one very scared Gardevoir...
Black hole time heehoo @@Luke_Sah
@@Luke_Sah Kingambit says hi
As a “a billion lions is a lot of lions” supporter. I could tell as soon as he said “307 pokemon learn helping hand” that I was wrong
I was on the side of the lions until this day, when World Champ Wolfey created a turn 1 battle plan of ultimate lion destruction
@@highcard6296 good that you now see the light
@@postboy2242 ultra necrozma : slaughter who called
@@highcard6296 Sadly, thats impossible, allow me to explain. You can't have 307 pokemons fight at once. Only 6.
@@Superbug-tf8zy 1 billion lions wouldn't cooperate either. If anything the lions would be fighting each other for territory as well as leadership. Pokemon would barely have to get involved.
Just imagine how long it would take to wait for INTIMIDATE to take effect on each of them.
not to mention that it would happen multiple times, Jesus, the lions would die of old age before the slaughter would begin
It would literally take 30 years
assuming the animation takes 5 seconds that would take 158 years lmao
Dude i think the lions and some pokemon would have intimidate
intimidation takes about 2 seconds in gen 6 and after, there are 32 pokemon that can have intimidate, provided that all pokemon in one evolution line can be included at the same time. there are 1 billion lions, so intimidate will be done 32 billion times. if every pokemon that can learn intimidate actually has intimidate, it would take 64 billion seconds / 740,740.74 days / 2,028.04 years
First thoughts: There are pokemon that can fly and have range. What are lions gonna do?
Wolfe: Proceeds to explain how Kyogre is going to 1-shot all lions in one turn.
I mean, yeah, it's a point that rayquaza could probably just camp in the sky. Well, I guess it couldn't if we're talking game mechanics, but still, it's something to consider.
According to the Lion's appreciators, lion ladders
@@bruv7521
Nah, lion ladders tend to be unstable and collapse onto hornbills.
Wait, that's rhino/elephant/hippo/giraffe/antelope/anteater/ostrich/lion ladders.
Lion ladders is perfect for the pokemon. Bunch as many lions as possible together, probably have a good number taken out from their own weight. Meanwhile, the flyers will use the miraculous 200IQ move of not staying in one spot.
On the other hand, the lions might have Scar on their side. He could use his earth bending powers to move the ground closer to the flying pokemon.
@@skycastrum5803
Since when is Scar Toph Beifong?
A billion lions: somehow survive*
Groudon: it's my turn to play bro *uses earthquake
lion shelter
Groudon: runs at the lions and rips the ground open
@@Flowey-Yourbestfriendlion helicopter
@@mir4geisnotafurry Literally every legendary (besides Groudon/Kyogre): And I took that personally.
@@Flowey-Yourbestfriend lion masterball
That one Pokémon with storm drain:
*”I’m helping”*
I know this is probably ironic, but just in case, other pokemon could use entrainment, nullifying bad abilities.
No Pokémon in the game can only have Storm Drain as their Ability. Even then, you could always use something like Boomburst or Eruption instead
Gastrodon cries in the corner. Can't run away from lion
Weezing: let me introduce myself
(With neutralizing gas)
Wolfey with professional editors is too powerful
When you give an already good Pokemon a mega form
this was a perfect idea
A power that goes even further than wolfey's plot armor against cybertron
@@slick_rickgaming1102 Salamence
@@slick_rickgaming1102 didnt work too good with garchomp but still yes in this case
The real question is if 1 billion lions could even scratch a single Shedinja
ASKING THE TRUE QUESTIONS HERE
They definitely have crunch/bite
@@GreatDG follow me walls : *exist*
@@GreatDG F
No because scratch is a normal type move
I love how orangutu and smeargle basically just said
"DO IT AGAIN"
OMG THE FUNNY MEME DO IT AGAIN
This guy just taught us how important set-up moves are
Fucking right?
Well... If you've ever done any form of competitive battling, you would know that Setting up is a big importance. You have trick room setups, Mimikyu sweeps, Mould Breaker counter, you have Shuckle, Entry traps, Shadow tag, trapping moves, just to name a few.
Real
Yepppp
Imagine if he used primal kyogre
“What about the lion ladder?”
“If the lions were on the ladder they’d be stuck in Pokéball tier”
Underrated joke lmao
can anyone explain that particular joke to me?
@@TomAmit42 pokeball tier is the lowest ladder tier in competitive pokemon (the game).
@@trunks4435 oh so it's mostly just a word-play, yes?
@@TomAmit42 yeah I guess you can say that
@@trunks4435 Oh whoops, I thought the joke was that the higher up you go on the ladder the fewer there are at maximum effectiveness.
Wolfey: Does it cause a 75% reduction?
Me: It’s 75% of the original, meaning it’s a 25% reduction.
I can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this comment. Same with the damage roll. The lowest possible damage roll is x0.85 or 85% or a reduction of 15%. Yet, Wolfey said it's a reduction of 85% in this video. Thank god, calculators still calculate numbers correctly regardless of human error. Still love you Wolfey, keep rocking, stay safe.
Yes. I tried to overlook it the first time, but he kept smacking me in the face with it. Especially the 100%-75%-75% made me shiver.
Ah good eye on that. That means the Lions are even more dead
It's a "right answer, wrong formula... somehow..." situation... kinda.
He spoke incorrectly but was doing the math correctly. Don't worry about his terminology too hard. xD
I love the idea of all these Pokemon getting together and scheming on how to f*ck up some lions
The best part is there are more than a few Pokémon fully capable of coming up with a plan like this. Like even if the actual IQ of your average Alakazam is vastly overestimated, it’d still be smart enough to figure a strategy like this out, especially if it had help from other hyper-intelligent Pokémon like Slowking or Metagross
@@swordsmancsget any 2 decently strong pokemon together and make them both use spread moves. Skips the whole setup
Lion Tower of Babel
lion stans please note, this wasn't even kyogre's primal form
@@grunkleg.29691 Magic Room was used in this scenario though, so Primal Kyogre does do more damage
@@austinwilding1602 does primal kyogre activate if items don't?
@@goggles8691 It does indeed. There are restrictions to what Magic Room is able to turn off, and among the items it cannot disable are the Primal Reversion orbs, Mega Stones, and Z Crystals.
@@echo-rose Additionally, Primal Kyogre would go through its primal reversion before magic room ever went up, because it activates as kyogre hits the battlefield, so even if magic room stopped blue orb from activating, it wouldn't apply in this scenario.
@@austinwilding1602 very true :3
"1 Billion is a lot of lions bro!"
Wolfey: "Yeah, 1.96*10^64 is a lot of damage"
Clear
True
Yeah
Yes
bro what are lions supposo to do if LITTERLY Any flying legendary shows up or ANY GHOST TYPE becuase the lions are normal type
Kyogre: Have you ever been hit by the end of the universe twice in a row?
Lions: No
Oranguru: *W* *O* *U* *L* *D* *Y* *O* *U* *L* *I* *K* *E* *T* *O* *?*
Smeargle: Laughs in the background
What can kyogre do? I’ve heard people mentioning him multiple times but I don’t understand it
@@randomname9291 use water spout
@@damianwilson8974 yeah I’m just stupid, I read the comments before watching the video
Astalos.... Love the pfp, my favorite of the four
@@randomname9291 Watch pokemon generations episode 8 and you'll see that Kyogre can solo the puny lions lmao
*the 4 billion unique spinda in my garage* :Am I a joke to you?
Lol omg this is hilarious. Although he did say excluding different forms.
imagine just trowing all of those spindas them role play kingambit por the ability that makes u do 1.1x damage per fianted pokemon and the role play again on for example groudon
It’s good to know that we haven’t lost the intro. If we did, he’d no longer be a real youtubist.
Real youtubist always has intros, every intro is a work of art
YouTubist?
@@GLiTX2527 uncultured swine (don't get offended it's a joke of wolfey intentionally having bad pronunciations of certain words, this is why he pronounces youtubers as youtubists and video as wideo also having horrendous pokemon pronunciations like arca-ni-ne unlike arca-nine)
To bad he doesn't do this anymore
another argument I just came up with as a counter to my own argument:
"how could the pokemon devise such a plan without a trainer?"
"mewtwo"
Alakazam is said to be smarter and that one orangutan from Alola is said to use Pokeballs and command others.
Or Deoxys too, heck, even Kadabra or Gardevoir and said to be smart enough to probably devise a helping hand nuclear bomb.
Or other 20061005 Pokémon smarter than a supercomputer
@@the_apotecary_from_tf2 like metagross
Man did you readed my mind?
"307 Pokemon learn helping hand" is the only statement needed.
It does Adventure Capitalist Money Damage.
Adventure Capitalist Money is a phrase i need to use
If you consider a regular pokemon needs a 75 base power to kill one single lion, since it's super effective, raising it's power to 150, that means the same regular pokemon would need 150000000000 power to kill 1 billion of them off of any spread move. To achieve that result, we would only need to gather 36/38 pokémon intelligent enough to cast helping hand on the same pokémon
LMAO!!! I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT TOO!!!
@@C4lmaria Assuming the damage is divided by the amount of lions, which it most likely isn't.
That's funny because I literally just got done watching a video on that game and playing it.
"Kingambit has gained strength from the fallen"
lmao
Kinggambit fainted!
*Houndstone used Last Respects!*
Any Pokémon that benefits from KOs would reach the level of legendaries at this point.
@@dansattah No, WAYYYYYYYY higher.
Assuming Kingambit is the last Pokemon alive (somehow) he will be at +1,024 physical attack
Magearna with soul heart:
Any pokemon with Snow warning would drop the temperature of the battle field to below freezing, causing the lions to die of hypothermia
A single snover could kill a billion lions
If the lions had the same moves as fire lion, they'd probably have sunny day.
@@blizzard2508-k7n no they would only have normal moves, as he only took stats of pyroar, not moves
@@blizzard2508-k7n But even still, Kyogre could flood the entire universe 3x over, and even if the lions didn't die instantly from the water pressure that could crush an entire semi truck, and they could somehow swim, Lions like any other animal cannot swim forever and compared to the entire Universe they can swim a very very very small amount before their legs give out and they proceed to drown.
@@astaut2659 lions would have no moves cuz they aren't pokemons
@@davidvanboven2576 they will struggle then
Solgaleo: *slowly switches sides while arceus deletes the lions*
I'm sad over the fact that this comment has less than 2k likes
Noice likes
Cement
Pyroar:Oh shit
litleo: eh... eheh... *runs away*
The real question is "How many lions can each pokemon solo?"
@PAPITO ryan yes lets see caterpie murder 6 lions
@@snomandonly yea and let's see arceus erase every lion from existence.but it would be funny to see caterpie try to run away from 6 lions
@@snomandonly all pokemon can learn toxic, so any pokemon should be able to at least take some lions down with them, even caterpie
@Nameless *Thanos snap*
@@generalzeta7000 Chronomon Then BURNS THE POKEMON ALIVE WITH HOLY FLARE AND CORONA!
Kyogre: does more dmg than atoms of hydrogen in the sun.
Shedinja: Pathetic.
Yveltal: Flaps its wings once
Arceus: Is just God
Kyogre: *THE F L O O D*
Ghost types:
Lion 63: Why did we all agree to this again?
Lion 9723: Because Wynaut.
Lion 1563788: you all agreed to this?
Lion 153686425: I was abducted from my family and forced to fight for their amusement. Release me from my torment!
Lion 666: In Doom-God we trust
Lion 1: hey guys, welcome to my new youtube video, and today im going to do an epic gamer prank on these other 999,999,999 lions i abducted
Summarizing:
Kyogre floods everything
2 Pokemon incentivate two extra floods
308 Pokemon help him
3 Pokemon defend
3 Pokemon break possible defenses
The others cheer from the sidelines
And now because of scarlet and violet the Pokémon increase my odds attack and special attack from.cheers
i mean 307
Flood everything except teammates as water Spout doesn't hit teamates
But a billion lions is alot of lions
@@SukunaJJKaisen Max special from the flatters, already.
arceus: deletes lions
dialga: goes back in time to kill baby lions
wailord: *munch*
No, Wailord fucks
@@lovelyluna773 tHe lIons woUld stAck!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!11!!1!1!1!1!1!1!!11!1!!1
@@lovelyluna773 yep, precisely why that argument makes no sense. saying that they could jump wouldn’t make sense as lions wouldn’t be able to cooperate and there’s too much weight
@@sodaleopard yeah, not to mention that many pokemon can easily move/fly WAAAY more fast than a lion, I don't understand why people doesn't realize this thing that can easily would give the lion the L
@@notauri1693 even if we dont use the pokedex there are pokemon that display universal ingame feats such as dialga or palkia. theres also the fact roar of times descrption states: a roar of time that distorts time itself. POKEMON STOMP
I always found this debate dumb, until it became a joke. Then I loved it. Because there are a few people who take this seriously and believe that the lions can win, let alone live. There is a magma snail hotter than the sun; literal gods of time, space, dimension, and also _the_ God; a waifumon that can summon black holes at will; and an undead bug that the lions wouldn’t even be able to damage
not really true on the last part, struggle would still hit through wonder guard.
@@sinteleon I am assuming that lions do not have magical powers, thus anything they do is considered “normal”. Even an action like biting, which is a dark type move that would work against Shedinja, is “normal” because there is no magic behind it. And “normal”, be it the type or just existing as a regular state, cannot damage Shedinja.
It is both the action and the fact that Pokémon are magical creatures that give moves their types. For example, what makes bite different from bug bite, thus permitting different typings? It’s used by a bug type Pokémon, of course! So then why doesn’t “bite” become bug bite when used by a bug type Pokémon? Because although some qualifications were fulfilled, you still need the magic aspect.
A regular lion, backed into a corner, desperately struggling does not mean he is suddenly using a bug type move. He is a lion, lacking entirely in magic. There his struggling is a regular state of struggling, “normal”, and not the magic “normal” energy nor the magic “bug” energy.
I probably could have said this in a way simpler way, but basically the TL;DR is that regular Earth lions from our universe possess zero magical abilities and thus cannot apply Pokémon types to their actions such as “biting” or “struggling”
@@guts60 struggle isn't bug type, it's typeless, and bypasses most typing checks, including wonder guard. It's literally used when there is no other moves available to be used (aka no more of this magic thing you count as moves), which in this case, counts. If anything, if we go by your logic, regular normal type moves are still magic, and anything the lion does would fall into the same category as struggle, because it by definition is used when there is no more magic left.
(and yes, normal type moves should be considered magic, like hyper beam and leer whatnot)
@@sinteleon YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Oh my god, I was thinking of “struggle bug”. All these years of pokemon, I feel like a moron. I am sorry
lions would win because… a billion lions is a lotta lions
This is the same of asking who would win between a city and a single nuke. Shure, the city has many people, but a nuke is till a nuke.
one billion people or 1 of every nuke
@@deezknuts3058 Not even close, the nuke annihilates the 1 billion people like 1000 times over.
@@maxdrags3115 it's a trap, the nuke need at least one people to activate it.
Though in one billion people there _will_ be at least one dumbass activating the nuke.
@@dradel2050 Yea, probably.
@@dradel2050 depends on how closely packed the people are. A single nuke can't kill 1 billion people but multiple definitely will.
I was going to say that this couldn’t be possible because there would be no trainer, but then I remembered that Alakazam is smart.
And that the previously mentioned Oranguru has been seen participating in battles as the part of a trainer, sending out Pokémon and giving out move commands.
And oranguru can give commands to Pokémon and is smart
@@mightguy3578 so now they're OP, thay have 2 trainers.
also metagross and mewtwo. pokemon in general are also pretty smart.
@@marcazm1349 i agree, look at chess for an example, computers are better than people at chess. pokemon and chess are so similar
this response was one of the most generous responses in the lions favor i've seen and it still ended in an overwelming victory for the pokemon, i don't see how anyone can think the lions have a chance
Sorry johnny, but the reason you broke yah legs is because you couldn't clearly see how the lions would win, its quite obvious. Goddamit the first joestar to let me down...
@@colmlooney5843 How
@@colmlooney5843 how do they win? Lion stack? Lions can only hold up to 2000LB and the average lion is 400LB meaning the first Lion would be crushed and throw the stack off balance once more than 5 lions get on the stack, also how would they stack? Would the lions climb up each other? Lion shield? Them forming a massive shield would just make them a bigger target and they wouldn't increase in density, how would they survive the planet being flooded by Kyogre or being torn to shreds by a thousand earthquakes? Hell, how would they survive being just fucking deleted from existence by God?
@@hiddendraco2607 what if the lions all use transform to turn into arceus. 1 billion arceus>one of every pokemon
@@Cube-xm6vt Lions can't use Pokemon moves of any sort, just like Pokemon can't use lion moves which take no PP and are infinitely reusable
Wake up a Jirachi and wish for all the lions to disappear.
Underrrated
@@Brodybriggs9 FR
As a long time member of the “a billion lions is a lot of lions” Camp, I must admit this video if pretty conclusive. I think he cracked it
But he's wrong. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Water_Spout_(move) If you see the target area on the right side, you see how it doesn't affect the 3rd foe to the right, meaning that water spout's range is limited to a maximum of 3 foes.
@@harpot678 You're right. All lions would have to be adjacent for them to all be hit, which isn't possible. In a 3D scenario, each water spout could kill up to 8 lions.
@@joesos5773 that water spout could extinguish the sun, I don't think range is its issue
Yeah, it doesn't hit all targets, it hits all adjacent targets.
Could just have Groudon use Earthquake instead. Wide Guard still prevents all of the Pokemon from being knocked out by it too.
this is like if kyogre used spirit bomb and all the pokemon fueled it
spirit bomb 3 times
out here causing Noah's Ark 2 on the battlefield
Wailord in the back crying
@@blackattack1840 you wanna see me do it again-smeargel
but lions could stack
Ok now do every Pokemon VS 1 billion Wolfey Glicks
He knows the damage calcs, Wolfe wins easy.
Well Wolfe is the old world champ of pokemon, so they'd just bow down in cowering fear like the peasants they are
We only need one Wolfey. He's a pokemon master.
Mr. Wolfey could just get one pokeball the size of the sun and win
That’s 6 billion Pokémon vs one of each Pokémon, that’s pretty easy
I think the funniest thing about this discussion is imagining what atrocities the pokemon could do to the lions if we go by lore/pokedex entries
Rayquzay be like guys can just get off the plant and let me mega evo and destroy this plant?
Meanwhile necrozoma be like:- let's cook them. Uses Z-move light that burns the sky
If you go by pokedex any pokemon that is besides victini can never lose a battle, so somehow a magikarp with a victini can defeat a billion lions
@@diogoalves9284 even without using pokedex there is no way real life animals can stand up to Pokemons. What are you gonna do if dragon types started raining meteors? Or fire type start using eruption?
In certain cases they don’t even have to win the battle, some Pokemon, arguably just can’t lose.
What are the lions really going to do against a metacross, the line that can fly through a moving plane without getting as much as a scratch.
*all the lions are KOed*
*Kyogre sinks the Planet* 🐳
Team Aqua: Finally.
Lmfaooo! Best Comment Ever xD
all it took was LIONS
Correction: destroys the Galaxy x3 and creates a new universe (I can provide the math if you want)
Cyrus: I didn’t need Palkia and Dialga after all?
What if the lions have the power of friendship? They just had a dramatic flashback to all the good times they spent together.
Literally unbeatable.
more
Thats alot of friendship power
when that happens, the second water spout hits, then when they get their next boost THE NEXT instruct hits. Then when they attack they can't do anything and the pain begins again
The lions are from Akame ga kill so the power of friendship doesn't works.
Idk man, have you SEEN Lucario's friendship powers?
wolfey: im going to get a noble peace prize!
also wolfey: theoretically kills 1 billion lions 3 times over
Well, Alfred Nobel invented dynamite so does it really matter?
What I like about this is that due to the nature of spread moves, the lions are screwed no matter how many there are. Whether it’s 1 lion, 1 billion, or 1 octillion the outcome is the same.
One infinity
@@itsArridian infinitylion
He forgot to mention that imposter ditto can just transform into oranguru or smeargle , adding one more instruct. Mew could also transform, but there’s a likelihood that battle already ended.
Man the battle had started and was already over
Oh my, let’s go even more overkill!
It does less damage that way, 1-2 instructs are optimal for damage
We can add zoroark to
It's a one turn scenario, so transform isnt an option. Also, iirc impostor only transforms into opponents, aka the lions, not something like Oranguru
I feel like I just watched a dude spend 20 minutes ranting about how noah's ark happened.
Lmao true
It did happen
@@thegoodfather1177 true
Yoooo!
The Nephilim were Holy Lions all along!
I almost choked on "if the lions were in a ladder they'd be stuck in pokeball tier"
I don't get it
@@pt3391 "Ladder" is a term used for the ranked system in a lot of games. In pokemon, the ranked system is organized into tiers based on different pokeballs, with masterball being the highest and pokeball being the lowest.
@@driftwisp2797 make sense now. Thank you
bro what are lions supposo to do if LITTERLY Any flying legendary shows up or ANY GHOST TYPE becuase the lions are normal type
@@theanti-baloon716 I'm not sure about flying types but I have heard the argument of when the lion dies it turns into a ghost thus be able to fight ghost types
One Billion Lions: *proceed to attack.*
It doesn't affect Misdreavus...
Until they use bite
@@alexander1274 yeah
@@alexander1274Because lions biting won’t be a dark type move, it wouldn’t even affect ghost types. Or will it *vsauce music plays*
Because lions aren’t Pokemon, they won’t be normal types. That means they’re typeless. Typeless moves hit ghost types.
The argument literally stops at "Pokemon get helping hand and surf"
No, because again... that's *alot* of lions
@@colmlooney5843 The counter-argument to "that's a lotta lions" is the Phil Swift classic: *THAT'S A LOTTA DAMAGE*
@@Nat_the_Chicken The counter-argument to "that's a lotta damage" is the average lion enjoyer classic: *THAT'S A LOTTA LIONS*
@@colmlooney5843 Arceus is literally shown to be god in the anime games and Pokedex and has infinite power, Arceus can literally just delete the lions from existence
@@hiddendraco2607 This was the one reply thread where we weren't madly throwing cobbled-together bits of logic at each other and I found it quite refreshing, so please don't take it seriously, thank you
Kyogre with 300+ helping hands at once:
A firebender can only experience this power once every one hundred years...
* water spouts *
Ah yes, fire bending, if only there was a water version to fit more thenatically
And fuck it let's tera water Kyogre
@@Germanalbanianman2 fuck it lets primal, dynamax AND tera water kyogre
@@somerandomguywholikesULTRAKILL in rain
Then we give oranguru and Kroger Z bands and let the chaos unfold
For the people who think " what about water spout hitting allies since it hits everything around? " Or whatever, there is an ability that a few pokemon have that prevents damaging allies
Water spout only hits the opponents in front of you anyways, whoever asks that hasn’t played pokemon
Even if it did, Kyogre wouldn't hit itself
@@RuffleShnorf who said that
@@sebasg4mer575 no one, just proving your point further
and wonder gaurd
I know how the lions can win. They simply need around 10^64 lions because that’s how many lions it takes to recreate the Big Bang and completely obliterate all the Pokémon
1 billion Lions is now such an iconic character, he even fought the sun once
Yeah the ancient warrior
That was actually a trillion lions, it’s a common mistake to mix up these two epic warriors, but there’s a key difference: 1 billion lions is a lot of lions but 1 trillion lions is A LOT of lions
@@HeadCannon19 a billion is a lot and a trillion is a lot of lots ?
They lost tho..
@@Tidnro thats sorta just the fate of a billion and a trillion lions. they get destroyed each season to show how strong the new kid on the block is.
“What about the lion ladder?” “If the lions were in the ladder, they’d be stuck in Pokeball tier” LMAOOOO I love this man
Also it could than be argued it could than be a single target decimating the lions even more
what are the lions gonna do telepathically tell the other lions and somehow talk to each other with an IQ of 20 as an animal even if they could a gust of wind would blow them away/a pidgey or a flying pokemon would just knock them over and the one at the bottom would have so much weight on top of him he'd just fall with the rest.
Didn’t get it
Wouldn't they suffocate trying to get to the space pokemon?
Could someone explain what that means? xD
Imagine all the lions watching a man strategize the best way to utterly decimate all of the lions millions of times over
idk man that's a lot of lions though
sadly a million is not even close to how many times over they would be killed
Yeah but the lions can use snatch and steal all the effects he wants to use then obliterate the pokemon
@@beenieweenie1986 does pyroar learn snatch? The lions are basically normal type pyroar.
@@Tt-The-Creative Just checked, they don't
Kyogre: man fuck this place 🌊 🌊 🌊
Someone please show this to Ludwig
Ludwig: Do yOu kNoW HoW mUcH a BilLiOn iS??
@@FellOff arceus gpt beaten by cement he aint gonna do shit
@@dodgyjimbo4120 yeah so would lions
th-cam.com/video/8eJrW1WJsq8/w-d-xo.html
and also Connor
"Thel lions would be stuck in Pokeball tier." LMAO what an underrated line
Thats the only line in this video i didn't get, can someone explain please?
@@DylanC333 He was talking about the tiering system for online battles in SwSh. There's the Unranked, Poke ball, Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and Master Ball tier.
@@shiinozaki I assumed it was a sort of ranking system but is he just saying that stacking up the lions would barely make then any stronger or is there some other joke here?
@@DylanC333 Yeah, that's the joke.
Sinners: Allows 1 billion lions to exist.
Kyogre: *Takes one of every Pokemon and floods the earth to restart.*
LMAO
But a billion is a lot of lions
@@thespookypissman1749 Yeah, and the Pokemon have multiple Gods on their side that could blow up Earth if they wanted to. Even 7 Billion humans that are smarter and armed with nukes can't beat Gods, how tf will 1 Billion lions who have no intelligence win if the smart ass apes called humans can't?
Man, that is going to be one busy Ditto
@@Waftey it's alot of lions though
Me: If the pokemon are allowed to hold items, so are the lions, every lion can hold a focus band. Statistically 10% of the lions will survive resulting in an average of a hundred million lions after one water spout. After three water spouts thanks to instruct, the average lion count is reduced to one million lions, which is still sufficient to KO every remaining pokemon.
Wolfey: Magic room.
Then kyogre runs kings rock and flinches them
When he said: Mat Block... You should know the Lions are doomed
its the fact that the kyogre oneshot isnt even all the pokemon. even if you wanna argue wide guard and focus sashes and all that, we have enough pokemon that can move first and break all that before the one shot setup even begins
Of any of y’all are wondering about evasion boosts, Swift is a spread move that never misses
Also No Guard exists
Yeah but what if the lions became ghost type when they died
@@apileofbacon482 scrappy
@@apileofbacon482 ghosts aren’t real in our world, so they wouldn’t. Even if they did, though, No Guard exists
@@AshenDust_ but ghosts do exist
I like how he calculates rain dance when kyogre has drizzle
Water bubble tho
Drizzle happens instantly entrainment with water bubble takes 1 turn
If there's one of every Pokémon on the field then that means that potentially there are other Pokémon on the field with weather altering abilities. As such, it's entirely possible for it not to be raining despite Kyogre being on the field. If nothing else, Groudon alone has Drought as its only ability, to say nothing of stuff like Hippowdon, Tyranitar and Ninetales. Though all of those are rendered moot by either giving Kyogre the Blue Orb, turning it into Primal Kyogre and activating Primordial Sea, which cannot be overridden by standard weathers - only by Primal Groudon's Desolate Land or Mega Rayquaza's Delta Stream. These too are easily sorted - we just don't give Groudon the Red Orb and don't Mega Evolve Rayquaza.
Alternatively, if the Blue Orb isn't an option for whatever reason, we just have one of the other Pokémon that's not doing anything use Rain Dance after Groudon's Drought and any other weather altering abilities have come into play.
Going back to Rayquaza, however, he is still technically an issue due to his Air Lock ability, but he's also easily worked around by a Pokémon with Entrainment, Gastro Acid, Simple Beam or Worry Seed.
There are various other ways the actual abilities of the other Pokémon in the battle can potentially be a problem (after all, you're using one of EVERY Pokémon), but they're all also easily worked around since you have so many that are just doing nothing.
@@sayethvexus8332 Anything with Storm drain literally fucks the entire thing :(
@@sketch3744 Storm Drain doesn't redirect spread moves.
The lions can't attack ghost types so it's already a clear win for the pokemon.
The lions have bite because why would they not
I mean there is also the problem of just solar bodies
what if the dead lions come back as ghost lions what then
Lions die, boom ghost lions
Lions don't know Pokemon rules. Lions are lions, not Pokemon. When a real ass lion bites you, it's not a Dark-type move. It's a bite.
Alright, with all of this said and done; I really want to see an animation of all of this setup used to take down these lions. It'd be so much work, but be honest it'd be cool as hell seeing every trainer order their one pokémon and having Kyogre deliver the finishing blow
Epic Battle Simulator?
Every time someone says "a billion lions is a lot of lions" I say " yeah that's a lot of fucking dead lions "
Lol
Im gonna start using this
@@DJG44 Same.
but why do the pokemon moves get to work? why cant we assume the pokemon get put in real life instead of the lions just being other pokemon? its a dumb debate anyways.
@@beanman9294 because then it wouldn't be lions vs pokemon, it would be lion vs other animals and we already have that lmao
Me seeing the video title: "Oh, what a funny meme topic."
Wolfe: "First, we need to establish our methodology."
Me: "Oh, he's taking this seriously...
This just got better."
anime- lions are dead
pokedex lore- lions are dead
gameplay- lions are dead
im starting to notice a pattern
By the Pokedex, the lions never existed at all cause Jirachi wishes them out of existence.
The Pokedex is fucking busted
Like, yeah
Peepee exist also for the lions
Imagine if lions decided to enter the battle 5 (or 100) at a time, you'll definitely run out of PP
leppa berry
idk where the other lions are hiding, but there is likely some strategy that maximises pp usage
Bro they don't even have to use moves like they can't even hurt any legendary like that😂
One billion may be a lot of lions, but 1 vintillion is a LOT a lot of damage
Flex tape
1 perish song is enof
@@dragtoxyoure goddamn right
ever heard of protect? or focus sash
@@palermo213L arguement, lions cant use protect nor can they equip items
C'mon dude, we all know the lions would beat the sun is they attacked at night, when the sun is asleep.
true
No, when the sun sleeps, the earth shields it from all nocturnal life.
Ah yes we got some big brains out here
What about Solrock
@@stupiderandunnecessarier
Solrock's a meteorite pokémon.
Logic of Lion appreciators: That's a lot of lions
Logic of Pokemon fans:
Yes
Magcargo
Just
Marcargo
@@orangeman3505 magcarago?
@@Deadass271 macgarago
@@orangeman3505 also camerupt being 10000°C and everyone is ignoring him :(
Kyogre creates a tsunami*
Lions:🫡
"Or a little over a vigintillion base power, and no I didn't make this word up"
Adventure Capitalist players: *We know.*
May I recommend Antimatter Dimensions?
In my opinion, best idle game out there.
Currently has 1-2 months worth of content (and it only really gets boring at some of the endgame stretches). And if you're playing purely for the big numbers, my endgame save is at 10^287,000,000, compared to Adventure Capitalist capping at 1.8x10^308
This was my first thought when he said that lmao
The moon theme was unnecessarily good
As soon as I learned how OP spread damage is in ratio of how many targets it has: "Well, the lions are fucked."
only 5 at a time
@@ewan1118 exactly, kyogre cant hit all 1 billion lions
@@davidvanboven2576 You didn't watch the entire video, as he specifically mentions that the prompt is not all pokemon vs 1 billion lions 5 at a time, adding in new rules, etc etc. Therefore, anything you say doesn't count because you didn't actually pay attention.
@@ewan1118 in the game, 5 pokemon is the limit only because hordes spawn with up to 5 pokemon. since we're fighting 1 billion pokemon, it can hit all of the pokemon. we're not fighting them one/five at a time.
but a billion is a lot of lions
Imagine having to sit through 307 helping hand animations, and then over 50 role play animations
OMG LMAO
The lions would die of boredom
Turn off animations lol
@RENEE PARK super simple button masher, keyboard autoclicker
They wouldn't, they'd just eat them while they're tryna use their move. Nobody says that they have to wait for their opponents
Bro 1 billion lions couldn’t even do a dent in stakataka
This is honestly super-high-quality content. It's very well produced, but it flows so naturally. I love the way you took such a serious approach and went really in-depth to make a question that's so silly-sounding at first become genuinely enthralling.
You're like the teacher everyone wishes they had in middle school: A teacher that makes class enjoyable by using fun subjects to disguise the fact that we're learning.
And of course DaWoblefet is the teaching assistant who helps make it all possible.
Thank you, Mr. Youtubist
I totally agree! It's very different from the usual content, but it's incredibly well put together
Thank you for the praise on it being well produced! Worked really hard in making it so 😁
@@TheUziGunner thank you for doing it!! Your hard work definitely shows
'1 billion lions is a lot of lions'
The thing is, 6.88x10^64 damage is a lot of damage.
True. A billion only equates to 10^9; the lions were damned from the start
dont be shy, just say 68800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 damage
ah, now I see why we had to learn standard form in maths
But Pokemon is turn based
@@TheUnderwearSauce if you watched the video they can kill all the lions in 1 turn, and if the lions move first than presumably they also only get 1 move
Lions: p-please, no!
Kyogre: What's the matter? Afraid to get wet?
to make this fair let's make the lion's don't need to sleep and pokemon that are lion join the lion side like solgaleo and then not include mega evo,legendaries, dynamax, z moves, flying pokemon, pokedex entries, surf earthquake magnitude and more not allowed. And then make it 10 billion lions.
@@emmalion1976 and thats what you call fair?negating all the most powerful featufes,a large portion of pokemon(flying pokemon) and legendaries and a move just because it can beat you so you make up the rule that it cant be used?
@@emmalion1976 then it’s not the same debate
@@emmalion1976 also even then they would still die to T H E F L O O D
@@emmalion1976 also ditto can turn into the strongest Pokémon on the battlefield so...
Miraidon: … GIMMIE A SANDWICH
Koraidon : bru, just GIMME A SANDWICH.
"That literally wouldn't do anything to help, because a billion is only 10^12"
best line in the video.
ONLY 10^12 LMAO
hang on a moment
Game theory has never tackled the real issues like Wolfe has
Mattpat aint got shit on the world champ
*lions try to attack clefairy using helping hand* "helping hand always go first" *lions stop mid-attack*
Dunno if this is a joke, but greninja has protection for the whole squad as well
@@Mr.Skeleton-El I would like to imagine greninja pulling up 800+ mats
@@ActualTrash8 everybody gangsta till the ninja frog brings a large truck filled with mats to the great lion war
*bidoof used protect*
Helping hand is +5 priority.
We need to start measuring Pokemon in Lionpower, like Cars in Horsepower!!
One billion lions: ROARS
pokemon:
Arceus: "those lions don't exist"
Lions: *thanos away*
no, you mean get's shot to another dimension.
You are assuming the Pokemon have the mental capacity to use their abilities effectively. Why can a 10 year old child take Arceus captive if it is capable of that kind of thing lol
@@basicallycalebwho do you mean, me or gecko?
Raquaza rushing to summon meteors before arceus
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Average Pokémon fan:
Average lion enjoyer: that’s a lot of lions
"Average lion enjoyer" is possibly my favorite phrase
Im both
Me:... thats aloooooooot of dead lions.
thats a lot of mufasas
Yea that sure is a lot of corpses
We need a dex entry that alludes to this, example "This Pokemon has the power to take down 1 billion Pyroar".
Or even better, some Elite-Four type of challenge where you fight a comically large amount of Pyroars and it ends up being easy as fuck
@@pedrocto9474 earthquake and surf
So easy for a swamper
*Kingambit gained strenth from the fallen*
The lions don’t ever win because even without that amazing strategy..... they can’t touch shedinja
OMG I JUST REALIZED THAT people keep saying that crunch and bite are dark type moves so they can hit ghost types but shedinja is like no they cant touch me all they can do is cry
@@hearthatomjoel Shedinja is a ghost type tho
@@Lucaazade Sturninja says hi
@@skybattler2624 sturdinja can also wait till they all starve since sturdinja is a ghost.
@@hearthatomjoel Bite would kill a shedinja
"Yveltal absorbs all life when it dies" *kalm*
"Magikarp is a fish" *panik*
You spelled phish wrong
Don't talk about Kaido that way
In magikarps pokedex entry it says it can jump over mountains I think the stupid fish wins if we use pokedex
@@risse8873 the speed at which it would be going would easily be enough to kill a lion
@@risse8873 how big are the mountains?
a few hundred lions: live from friendship
Oranguru & Smeargal: Do it again
Lives from protect
@@catherineling5437 kyogre ready to do it again for turn 2 :
@@catherineling5437 feint lifted protect already
@@thegunfireguy7447 wait i remember you from pokemon showdown lobby chat
i can see it evil face injoying it.