Jamie was the best dad, obviously. Just look at his progeny: they were kings (and not in some beta male metaphor of trying to act like they are cool or something). lmao just kidding Tarly was the best dad, because he was constantly pushing his kids to be better versions of themselves, and got great results in all of them that weren't self centered chubby chasers and step dads to incest widows.
It's possible his baby had a serious defect or was deformed like had a 3rd nipple and got a great deal and/or knew the baby wouldn't thrive in that universe
That wine was an investment I have inside information from GRRM that he kept to sell to high lords during the war of the 5 kings when the value was up.
Night King adopted discarded babies, raised them himself, and tried to give them the world even at great risk to himself. Behind that icy heart is a loving father
Walder Frey is literally letting his entire family to be in on the ruling of the entire Riverlands, and he make sure that they are take care of which is really impressive to take care of his entire one hundred plus sons and daughters and grandchildren.
Also, Tywin's hatred for Tyrion is purely irrational. By all accounts, Tyrion should be the heir to Casterly Rock--not Jaime--the guy who would rather be "celebate" (lol) in King's Landing as Cersei keeps mysteriously having golden blonde haired kids. He has no desire nor talent for ruling. Tyrion on the other hand does. He knows politics, war, and administration and he likes it. A good father would see "Not only does my kid have a talent but also a desire for this path so maybe forcing the other kid to do the job that he probably would hate and kill himself before producing heirs is probably not a good idea". But no, Tywin's irrational hatred for his own son is just too great.
But he's a dwarf. Why does he live but not Joanna? This ill-made, loathsome, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust and low-cunning. He didn't watch his old man turn Casterly Rock into a comedy sketch bar just to then have it turn into one big orgy party.
15:40. Tarly and Tyrell look like a sitcom duo. Their faces show the giddy business owner and the no-nonsense veteran employee finding out they live next door to each other. Randy's in dismay while his boss is like "Hey, fancy seeing you in the neighborhood. Hope to see you at the company cookout on the estate. Thanks in advance!"
What Ned is doing is trying to take away their fear of death by subjecting them to it and teaching them the reality and totality behind it. Acceptance of the fact everyone is going to die. It's actually a very occult practice in the real world.
Ned is C tier?? Was he not a great role model for his children and house? His family and even his arranged marriage wife truly loved him. Did he not instill strong lifelong values and honor in his children? Did he not do everything in his power to protect his children? Did he not keep the secret of jon and his true parentage from everyone. Most of the lords in the show don’t even know how many children they have and how many bastards they have running around. This whole list lost credibility from that ranking
I think Roose WAS a GREAT father to his first son Domeric, I mean look at him, he is great compared to many others, he is a Musician, he is a better rider than the vile and Evil Lyanna, and he was an excellent fighter. After Domerics death, he probably doesnt really care anymore and gives 0 shits about what Ramsey does and so on. 100% agree on Walder though.
Domeric was definitely raised a good lad (don't know how much of that was Barbrey Dustin's input tho). I wonder how the house would have turned out had he lived.
@@justadummy8076 Stannis bristled at that. "I defeated your uncle Victarion and his Iron Fleet off Fair Isle, the first time your father crowned himself. I held Storm's End against the power of the Reach for a year, and took Dragonstone from the Targaryens. I smashed Mance Rayder at the Wall, though he had twenty times my numbers. Tell me, turncloak, what battles has the Bastard of Bolton ever won that I should fear him?" This is the most S tier statement ever, ONE REALM, ONE GOD, ONE KING!
@@OurHiltsHurtplus I agree with your guys ranking, cuz a detail everyone misses even you guys is Robert tried discipline his kids but the mom keeps getting in the way.
Who's Stan and why was his wife a "baron" and not a "baroness". In any case, your description makes Stan a horrid father, who would never have a healthy family.
@@str.77Stannis the goddamn Mannis is one of the greatest fathers ever, he lets his daughter play with a vassal of the drowned god, he leaves her safe at the wall well not safe from Mellisandre. Stannis is the gigachad of gigachads I will hear no disrespect to him also his wife is almost as bad as Skyler White and Catelyn.
Randyll was terrible at being a dad. A good father doesn't try to mold his children into himself, he recognizes their talents and (in Westeros) figures out how those talents could be useful in furthering the house. Randyll could've gone "damn, this kid is smart, good with numbers and history, he'd be a great administrator!" Instead, he punished him and tried to turn him into a knight, something he could never be. Dickon was easy to raise, he was the perfect son. Raising Sam was the true test and Randyll utterly failed.
Tywin really is great, I often feel bad for him bc he is such a good dad and then he sees his kids being total morons and thinks "where did I go wrong?" And then tries to overcompensate , unfortunately Tyrion gets lumped in but for good reason, Tywin KNOWS he is his only child with any ability to have sense lol but his vices and fact he cannot be used politically wirh good looks like his other kids frustrates him and he doesn't quite know what to do about it. But like..theres no way Tywin doesn't think Tyrion is really capable and make him acting hand of the King
Heard Ned was in C and immediately liked. Heard you dissing how his warped sense of honor (because what honorable man puts loyalty to a fuck awful king over loyalty to his family) led to pain and/or death to his children, and immediately favorited.
Don't disrespect asha greyjoy, she's a sexy tomboy pirate and the only greyjoy(except for euron) who isn't brain dead, also bobby b was a great dad for mya stone
I always liked that Ned let Arya train with that guy (ngl forgot his name) even if he was gonna marry her off in the future he loved her enough to at least let her have her childhood. And he seemed to love his kids…..even Jon snow despite everything
Man I want to defend Ned so bad but that “Sansa must stand by her husband even when he’s wrong” garbage is one of the most cucked lines in the entire show. Hindsight is 20/20 tho, the man really did raise survivors ‘cause most others in Westeros would’ve offed themselves if they had that same fall from grace lol
Without watching this first and I may be totally wrong but I think Robert did the best job. Tommen and Marcella turned out fine. Joffery was ALL Cersie.
You definitively make the best rankings on GoT on youtube on all the topics. Topics that we care much, topics that we care not so much, topics that nobody cares about, but are still fun to listen to though, hahaha. Keep up the good work! 🙂
I think House Stark as a whole, hell, the North in general needs a video. House Stark historically has some questionable decisions & honor the wrong things. Torhen Stark being mockingly called "The King Who Knelt". Yeah, because that didn't save y'all from being burned alive. Also, it's bad that Robb let Catelyn hang around the war camp but no one else said/did anything about it either. Why is there beef with the Wildlings? If the Night's Watch is so important why is it such a dump?
Also they eliminate House GreyStark for rebelling against them one time then let the notoriously backstabbing house of Bolton remain. I mean what the fuck is that about?
Yea people really misunderstand Twyin's relationship with Tyrion (So does Tyrion btw). Like Tywin is someone can appreciate Tyrion's cunning and rewards him for it like with Master of Coin & a wife, but dude Tyrion keeps on drinking and visiting Brothels ofc Twyin cant truly respect him. Overall being unbiased id give Twyin a 10/10 Fathership Medal.
@@jessjess23brooks89 yk I saw your other comment about how much of a POS twyin was, and while I do agree, you gotta look at from a medieval view. GOT is a world about x3 as worse as the middle ages. Tywins war crimes led to his iron grip on his vassels while the Freys & Boltons betrayed Stark when they saw an opening. He did actually succeed in having a strong rule.
@@mysteryboxe9230 But Tywin's scorched Earth tactics destroyed his house. In book-verse, the Lannisters have five year tops before their line goes extinct. One of the oldest houses in the seven kingdoms, gone because of his choices. This is a direct correlation from his war crimes and poor parenting. Even in a brutal time period, you can only get away with killing babies, destroying cities, and disrespecting every law of God's and men for so long.
@@jessjess23brooks89 Does it? If anyone destroyed his house it'd be Cerseri,Joffery, Little Fingers scheming and Varys scheming. Twyin isnt just Scorched Earth tactics, hes intelligent too. Twyin remarks how stupid letting Barristen go was, and it was Varys subtle scheming that made Joffery let him go. Only so much you can do when so many ppl are plotting on your houses downfall tbh.
I'd give Ned a B ranking overall. He's a great father to the boys, especially to Robb. A little hard on Rickon and a bit reckless with letting Bran climb all over the castle. I'd say the girls are a weak spot for him though, as he's far too lenient with Arya and leaves Sansa in la la land. Ultimately Ned's a good father but he makes plenty of mistakes and is far too trusting of others with the safety of his children.
@@seto_kaiba_ Ned enables behavior which is not appropriate for a highborn lady and lets his daughter run wild most of the time. Unsupervised. Which is incredibly dangerous and frankly, irresponsible parenting. Additionally, Arya commonly being in a state to be mistaken for an unwashed stable boy reflects poorly on her parents and her family name. Her zero to one hundred temper is also a big problem. If she were a boy I think the fandom would call her toxic instead of giving her violent outbursts a pass. Ultimately she's an exceptionally privileged nine year old who needs to be taught she can't just hit and back talk anyone she wants. Ned does a pretty poor job of rectifying this behavior. He even rewards Arya by arranging private "dancing lessons" for her after she's already attacked the crown prince (yes, she made the incident with the butcher's boy 100% worse by striking out in anger the way she did) and tackled her sister to the ground and beat her in front of everyone. Most father's in asoiaf would've sent their daughter home in shame after an incident like this. Ned, in my opinion, is too soft when it comes to Arya. Simply because she reminds him of his sister.
@@MarieCurtis92spot on, especially the "Arya would be considered toxic if she was male" 100% true, and Ned definitely gives her a pass because she reminds him of Lyanna.
@@MarieCurtis92 No the fandom would not call her toxic if she were a boy and if they did, I'd be the first one to tell them off. Arya was defending a friend from Joffrey. The King didn't punish her because he knew what his son was like and Ned was starting to learn to. He isn't going to be that hard on her for upholding his values. Ned values honor and bravery. Why would he be mad at her for this? Its dangerous sure but its also very typical for how Ned (and a lot of Northmen to be honest) would behave.
The criticism direct here against Ned Stark are either constructins (who says that he lets his children watch the execution every time?) or have nothing to do with his parenting skills. Bran does what countless of boys do, not because his father is so big on honour.
Robert Baratheon didn't have TIME to be a proper father!? He had time to whore, drink, overeat, and hunt! I believe he had the time to invest in his kids' lives (whom I believe he truly thought were his).
Isnt the night king a great dad ? He wants to make everyone his child, he cares for crasters foster kids and makes them generals. Just great wholesome stuff
If you don’t count the show, Stannis is an S tier dad. She gets greyscale and he says no way, whatever it takes to heal her. She’s best friends with the fool that’s a constant reminder of his parents’sl deaths and he lets them hang out because it makes her happy. And if I remember correctly, he specifically claims her as his heir and insists that his crown will go to her. That’s a legacy, Stannis is a Chad dad in the books
I dont know about mr Stark, every good father has a soft spot for his daughter and spoils her, look at Arya he does not like that she wants to be a warrior and still lets her do it. You guys are talking like he should have been more strict and be like "this is what s gonna happen" would any of us be happy with a father that crushes your dream and forces you to be a stereotypical character if you wouldn t want to be one? Also i kind of get Jon Snow treatment, bastards in westeros are frowned upon. Jon is not a bastard and he does not want to expose his identity plus i think he would have to sleep on a couch a few more times if he treated him equally to Robb thanks to Catts jelausy. Wolwes pups alright they are not dogs, but i think almost every single animal can be domesticated if you get it as a baby and nurture it among humans etc.. Of course they still have the nature of that animal but they are not killing anyone on sight without a reason. Bran whatever he could strictly forbidden that type of ativity i guess. He is more fair and loving to his children than any other of those guys, tries to teach them good morals (ofc in westeros those are often to your detriment) and would die for any of them.
this would have been perfect for next week... you know... Father's Day weekend I'm just bustin' chops. You both are awesome. I could listen to you talk about GoT and HotD all day
I honestly wish Tywin would’ve been the one to take the Throne. I really think the North could come up with a compromise to stay independent, but still cater to the Kingdoms. He may not have been the best person morally, but he was a damn smart guy.
I am humbly requesting a pro-Joffrey video. Rewatching Im noticing how much I enjoy his interactions with Cersei and Margarey. Mogging his mother, nerding out over crossbows and dragons. He's genuinely infatuated with Margarey but not simping either. Obviously in the books hes much more good looking and charismatic as well. Another point in defense of Joffrey, hes a 13 year old incest child with a sadistic, spoiling mother and both of his fathers are absentee psychopaths obsessed with violence and sex. (Yes, we love Bobby B, but he's not the best role model, even considering his ranking on this list).
Also we know Joffrey could have been corrected by a stern present father because every time Tyrion or Tywin harshly chastised him he actually took it and (at least temporarily) altered his behavior. He almost seemed to have a certain respect for Tyrion as his elder before Tywin showed up and pushed Tyrion down the totem pole.
Yeah Robert was not a good father, king, or role model. He slapped an eight year old Joffrey so hard he lost teeth because of the cat thing, but clearly he was emulating Robert's hunting and wanted to please and impress his father. And even though Myrcella and Tommen aren't like Joffrey they aren't treated well so people can't even make the excuse that he treats Joffrey bd because of his actions.
@@fightingmedialounge519 if he didnt respect Tyrion he would have told the Hound to kill him for striking the King, he threatened his own mother for doing the same. Fear compliance isnt ideal, but with some people, especially dangerous young men, its the only thing that works.
@@aceambling7685 no, because Tyrion is there because of tywin who joffrey fears(he also partially fears Tyrion). He actually does threaten Tyrion several times. It actually doesn't because the minute the people they fear are gone, they go back to their horrible selfs.
I don’t believe Stan 100% believed the sacrificing would save everyone and there is no telling if she wasn’t sacrificed than the world would end. So, I think Stan deserved to die after “sacrificing” his child.
@@OurHiltsHurtno Sweetrobin slander shall be tolerated. Breast milk maxxing is based, I foresee a future where man can go to Cafe staffed by new mothers and have freshly squeezed colostrum in his coffee. Robin is sickly, but this is the price he pays for his powerful psychic abilities, enhanced by the weirwood throne. Many men of great will and intellect paid for their gifts with illness of body and mind. We see this clearly with Robin's cousin Bran, who paid for his abilities with the use of his legs.
Tywin definitely hated Tyrion lol. Literally seconds after Jaime said to spare Tyrion life and have him taken off the Kings guard to be his heir in casterly rock, Tywin accepted to replace Tyrion with Jamie And Ramsey is only a psychopath because of how his dad raised him
Mace Tyrell and the Tyrells in general are probably the best family in the books. Just from reading the books (the show kinda made him a dumb loveable uncle who could cook a good bbq) I think he is a really good political thinker. Every move he made would benefit his family, to grant further power to his kids and family. He even has good friendships with his powerful vassals which the other great houses seem unable to do. I think he is going to try to marry his daughter to young Giff (Aegon) when Tommen eventually dies from poising from the sand snakes.
I wouldn't say, that Walder is such a good dad because he doesn't real, seas his children as persons, but more as bargaining Tools. He cared for his children, but not because they were his children
Roose doesn't legitimize Ramsey for Ramsey's sake lol he does it so the Bolton line doesn't die with himself. He's known basically since Ramsey was a young boy that he was a fuckin psychopath too. He said as much. He tried to teach him how to be a secret psychopath so as not to get his people to turn on him, but Ramsey wouldn't listen, and Roose basically said "fuck it. I gave it the bare minimum. I guess there's nothing I can do" lmao he's a terrible father. He KNOWS that Ramsey killed his LEGITIMATE son! And he's basically cool with it!!
Nah placing tarley at A is the most wild shit ive ever seen. From parenthood being the point of living to celebrating tarley’s treatment of sam, this vid is filllllled with so many redflags
I'm predicting Roose Bolton wins Best Father over the other guys in the thumbnail. Edit: Forgot about their devotion to Walder Frey. In Roose's defense, yeah, having your one living kid turn out to be a serial grapist murderer is generally not seen as being the result of good parenting. However, when one considers House Bolton's long history sadistic shenanigans, the argument could be made that Roose really helped Ramsay to get in touch with his heritage. Also, are we really 100% sure that Ramsay is a serial grapist murderer? Seems to me that the reports of his malfeasances are learned mostly second-hand. The one POV character in a position to confirm these dastardly deeds has clearly had a mental breakdown and may be suffering PTSD induced hallucinations.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also could you make a video about the second dance of the dragon which may happen in winds of winter
I disagree with randell tarly bc Sam while not a good combat dude at all. Hell hes a self proclaimed coward, BUT hes smart, that could have been cultivated to be the best support for his brother. His brother is a hothead, seriously dragon fire, And randell tarly let him?? Another negative against him.
Is this channel satire? I'm new here. I thought maybe they have just extremely different opinions than me until they got to Craster. There's no way a real person can actually have that opinion, right?
Robb, Jon, and Bran were fantastic, great leaders when they needed to be. Until Bran became a weirdo in the later seasons. Arya and Sansa were not the best raised, arya was pretty much not raised at all. Rickon was just a random little kid.
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Let us know which Father is the WORST and BEST in your low IQ opinion
Why do people hate Tywin so much?
Jamie was the best dad, obviously. Just look at his progeny: they were kings (and not in some beta male metaphor of trying to act like they are cool or something).
lmao just kidding
Tarly was the best dad, because he was constantly pushing his kids to be better versions of themselves, and got great results in all of them that weren't self centered chubby chasers and step dads to incest widows.
Massive list from me below. Good video, fellas.
@@MrGizturk Because their clique told them to hate him.
Tywin is number one. “You’ll marry Ser Loris@
Craster loved being a dad so much he kept spawning himself new wives to keep spawning himself new children…what a wholesome guy.
Everyone loves him
Craster is a gigachad ngl
@@zxylo786 more likr gigadad
Lmao😂
Walder is really trying to give each of his kid a castle : Riverrun, Darry,Rosby
And when his own daughter is refused by Robb he takes this personaly
Great point, he was trying to colonize the continent
@@foukyng I forghet White Harbor
And one of his nieces or daughters will marry Daven Lannister, they are evrywhere
Walder Frey is a real life Crusader Kings 2 player.
Craster as well but he's got tribal government and divine marriage doctrine...
@@foukyngit was said he can spawn an army from his hreeches
Walder Frey couldnt even remember who his children were, how many he had, or what had he named them.
The dude who sold Varys his baby for a jug of arbor gold is the greatest father of the series. Had his priorities straight
It's possible his baby had a serious defect or was deformed like had a 3rd nipple and got a great deal and/or knew the baby wouldn't thrive in that universe
That wine was an investment I have inside information from GRRM that he kept to sell to high lords during the war of the 5 kings when the value was up.
Rhaegar - hands down.
Tripple F tier father.
Based and Anti-Targ pilled
Deadbeat loser dad.
Rhaegar is so lame he couldn’t even pump more than 2 children out of his wife
Night King adopted discarded babies, raised them himself, and tried to give them the world even at great risk to himself. Behind that icy heart is a loving father
imagine if people saw the ranking with out context
Bro what context 💀 they’re fucking around lol
Yeah, and then saw the context. Yikes!
Walder Frey is literally letting his entire family to be in on the ruling of the entire Riverlands, and he make sure that they are take care of which is really impressive to take care of his entire one hundred plus sons and daughters and grandchildren.
And he is so nice to loan out his son to the Northmen to make pies while Winter is in full swing. A true philanthropist actually.
"Arya should be thanking every god that she wasn't graped into the pavement..." Fucking ded. 😂😂
You really gotta respect Tywin for commiting to the joke even under threat of death
What joke?
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 Him not liking Tyrion
@@thedrinkinggamemaker9749 Tyrion didn't like Tywin saying the word "privy" but Tywin said it anyway and that's why Tyrion shot him.
@@pansenstich6932hand of the king and excellent method actor 😂
Also, Tywin's hatred for Tyrion is purely irrational. By all accounts, Tyrion should be the heir to Casterly Rock--not Jaime--the guy who would rather be "celebate" (lol) in King's Landing as Cersei keeps mysteriously having golden blonde haired kids. He has no desire nor talent for ruling. Tyrion on the other hand does. He knows politics, war, and administration and he likes it. A good father would see "Not only does my kid have a talent but also a desire for this path so maybe forcing the other kid to do the job that he probably would hate and kill himself before producing heirs is probably not a good idea". But no, Tywin's irrational hatred for his own son is just too great.
But he's a dwarf. Why does he live but not Joanna? This ill-made, loathsome, spiteful little creature full of envy, lust and low-cunning. He didn't watch his old man turn Casterly Rock into a comedy sketch bar just to then have it turn into one big orgy party.
I mean as true as this is, if you kill my wife I’m gonna have some bad feeling towards you🤷🏾♂️
I mean, you should know Kaiba, considering your own adoptive, father hated you and you had him murdered by the Mob
Tywin's humor is on the level of y'alls pranks 🤣
No me you’re getting it
15:40. Tarly and Tyrell look like a sitcom duo. Their faces show the giddy business owner and the no-nonsense veteran employee finding out they live next door to each other. Randy's in dismay while his boss is like "Hey, fancy seeing you in the neighborhood. Hope to see you at the company cookout on the estate. Thanks in advance!"
I see it😂😂😂
What Ned is doing is trying to take away their fear of death by subjecting them to it and teaching them the reality and totality behind it. Acceptance of the fact everyone is going to die. It's actually a very occult practice in the real world.
I agree. Ned didn't sugarcoat things. This world is harsh. And he allowed his kids to make mistakes, and learn from them.
Walder also kept and acknowledged all his kids, didn’t matter if they were true born or baseborn. Awesome dad!
Just wanna say Randall Tarly and Twyin are gigachads.
Fact check true
Cringe test
Ned is C tier?? Was he not a great role model for his children and house? His family and even his arranged marriage wife truly loved him. Did he not instill strong lifelong values and honor in his children? Did he not do everything in his power to protect his children? Did he not keep the secret of jon and his true parentage from everyone. Most of the lords in the show don’t even know how many children they have and how many bastards they have running around. This whole list lost credibility from that ranking
Did he let his children run over him too much yes, though Catelyn can be blamed for most of the kids faults though.
....you realize their joking around right?
Dude, these guys are ucking around, don’t take it too seriously
You guys dragging Jorah and Jeor to shit for raising him to be a mega simp has me deceased
It's the cardinal Fatherly sin
If I was Jeor and saw my son sailing into the harbor with that Hightower girl, I would have made the ship turn around. 🤣
@@nunyabiznes33😂😂😂
Negotiating with something that came out of your nuts is giga cringe.
I think Roose WAS a GREAT father to his first son Domeric, I mean look at him, he is great compared to many others, he is a Musician, he is a better rider than the vile and Evil Lyanna, and he was an excellent fighter.
After Domerics death, he probably doesnt really care anymore and gives 0 shits about what Ramsey does and so on.
100% agree on Walder though.
Walder’s smart enough to keep his kids fighting among themselves for his favor so they don’t Unite against him.
Domeric was definitely raised a good lad (don't know how much of that was Barbrey Dustin's input tho). I wonder how the house would have turned out had he lived.
@@nunyabiznes33 Yes, I feel like the Boltons would still have been feared, But he would have given their Name some Honour.
Stannis: Burns his daughter alive to melt some snow - C Tier
Show bullshit but it was to save the realm, the one true king
@@AerysIIFirstofhisname
S tier exists for Stannis alone, it was even named after him, I’ve seen it in the flames
@@justadummy8076 Stannis bristled at that. "I defeated your uncle Victarion and his Iron Fleet off Fair Isle, the first time your father crowned himself. I held Storm's End against the power of the Reach for a year, and took Dragonstone from the Targaryens. I smashed Mance Rayder at the Wall, though he had twenty times my numbers. Tell me, turncloak, what battles has the Bastard of Bolton ever won that I should fear him?"
This is the most S tier statement ever, ONE REALM, ONE GOD, ONE KING!
George rr Martin said Robert had no idea Cersei’s children weren’t his
George was lying when he said that. He messaged me on Instagram about it
@@OurHiltsHurt oh ok
@@OurHiltsHurtplus I agree with your guys ranking, cuz a detail everyone misses even you guys is Robert tried discipline his kids but the mom keeps getting in the way.
Stan is sacrificing his daughter, also got rid of his baron wife. had he won the war, he was able to remarry and have healthy heirs
10000 IQ move by Stannis
Who's Stan and why was his wife a "baron" and not a "baroness". In any case, your description makes Stan a horrid father, who would never have a healthy family.
@@str.77I think he meant "barren"
@@nunyabiznes33 Sure.
@@str.77Stannis the goddamn Mannis is one of the greatest fathers ever, he lets his daughter play with a vassal of the drowned god, he leaves her safe at the wall well not safe from Mellisandre. Stannis is the gigachad of gigachads I will hear no disrespect to him also his wife is almost as bad as Skyler White and Catelyn.
Craster is the GOAT
Based and Craster pilled
@@OurHiltsHurt😂
This fandom is insane 😂
@@jessjess23brooks89 if by insane you mean you mean high IQ individuals, then you're right.
@@Papaty25 🤣 ya'll too much
Most rating are ok but I disagree with Robert he didn't care how many bastards he had
Fr, he didn’t know almost all of his bastards
Yea, walder was a pretty damn good father for taking care of all his children even though he was a terrible person
Walder is like Red Foreman. He's annoyed by the kids but he keeps feeding them lol
Randyll was terrible at being a dad. A good father doesn't try to mold his children into himself, he recognizes their talents and (in Westeros) figures out how those talents could be useful in furthering the house. Randyll could've gone "damn, this kid is smart, good with numbers and history, he'd be a great administrator!" Instead, he punished him and tried to turn him into a knight, something he could never be. Dickon was easy to raise, he was the perfect son. Raising Sam was the true test and Randyll utterly failed.
Tywin really is great, I often feel bad for him bc he is such a good dad and then he sees his kids being total morons and thinks "where did I go wrong?" And then tries to overcompensate , unfortunately Tyrion gets lumped in but for good reason, Tywin KNOWS he is his only child with any ability to have sense lol but his vices and fact he cannot be used politically wirh good looks like his other kids frustrates him and he doesn't quite know what to do about it. But like..theres no way Tywin doesn't think Tyrion is really capable and make him acting hand of the King
A lot of those vices were the result of trauma tywin inflicted on Tyrion. Also he made Tyrion acting hand out of desperation.
Heard Ned was in C and immediately liked. Heard you dissing how his warped sense of honor (because what honorable man puts loyalty to a fuck awful king over loyalty to his family) led to pain and/or death to his children, and immediately favorited.
Shitty take plus this is clearly satire
A ranking of the top chads in Game of thrones/Hotd would be legendary!
Don't disrespect asha greyjoy, she's a sexy tomboy pirate and the only greyjoy(except for euron) who isn't brain dead, also bobby b was a great dad for mya stone
She’s lame getting captured by the one true king is the best thing she ever does.
I always liked that Ned let Arya train with that guy (ngl forgot his name) even if he was gonna marry her off in the future he loved her enough to at least let her have her childhood. And he seemed to love his kids…..even Jon snow despite everything
The mad king gotta be an f because he also got his grandkids killed too.
But he did save his daughter and son
@@OurHiltsHurt True maybe f tier grandpa to be exact
But he was the father to a great son Viserys III
Man I want to defend Ned so bad but that “Sansa must stand by her husband even when he’s wrong” garbage is one of the most cucked lines in the entire show. Hindsight is 20/20 tho, the man really did raise survivors ‘cause most others in Westeros would’ve offed themselves if they had that same fall from grace lol
The pullout sound lmaoooo
Without watching this first and I may be totally wrong but I think Robert did the best job. Tommen and Marcella turned out fine. Joffery was ALL Cersie.
He did nothing
Tommen and myrcella were because of sheer luck
You definitively make the best rankings on GoT on youtube on all the topics. Topics that we care much, topics that we care not so much, topics that nobody cares about, but are still fun to listen to though, hahaha.
Keep up the good work! 🙂
Someone needs to animate that intro conversation with the pull out noise holy shit
the best take in this video was putting the father at s tier. without the seven there would be no other fathers in westeros 🙏🙏
Roose could have been such a good father to his Frey son. Shame he was poisoned by his enemies
I think House Stark as a whole, hell, the North in general needs a video. House Stark historically has some questionable decisions & honor the wrong things. Torhen Stark being mockingly called "The King Who Knelt". Yeah, because that didn't save y'all from being burned alive. Also, it's bad that Robb let Catelyn hang around the war camp but no one else said/did anything about it either. Why is there beef with the Wildlings? If the Night's Watch is so important why is it such a dump?
Also they eliminate House GreyStark for rebelling against them one time then let the notoriously backstabbing house of Bolton remain. I mean what the fuck is that about?
Tywin in Sopranos-Tier warms my dumb little heart
Don't ruin this for us
Yea people really misunderstand Twyin's relationship with Tyrion (So does Tyrion btw). Like Tywin is someone can appreciate Tyrion's cunning and rewards him for it like with Master of Coin & a wife, but dude Tyrion keeps on drinking and visiting Brothels ofc Twyin cant truly respect him. Overall being unbiased id give Twyin a 10/10 Fathership Medal.
It's so obvious, but no one sees it
Jfc
@@jessjess23brooks89 yk I saw your other comment about how much of a POS twyin was, and while I do agree, you gotta look at from a medieval view. GOT is a world about x3 as worse as the middle ages.
Tywins war crimes led to his iron grip on his vassels while the Freys & Boltons betrayed Stark when they saw an opening. He did actually succeed in having a strong rule.
@@mysteryboxe9230 But Tywin's scorched Earth tactics destroyed his house. In book-verse, the Lannisters have five year tops before their line goes extinct. One of the oldest houses in the seven kingdoms, gone because of his choices. This is a direct correlation from his war crimes and poor parenting.
Even in a brutal time period, you can only get away with killing babies, destroying cities, and disrespecting every law of God's and men for so long.
@@jessjess23brooks89 Does it? If anyone destroyed his house it'd be Cerseri,Joffery, Little Fingers scheming and Varys scheming.
Twyin isnt just Scorched Earth tactics, hes intelligent too. Twyin remarks how stupid letting Barristen go was, and it was Varys subtle scheming that made Joffery let him go. Only so much you can do when so many ppl are plotting on your houses downfall tbh.
My father taught me how to drain the poison out of a snake too. 10/10
Based and DLDO pilled
Randall would have been S tier if he hadn’t held Dickson’s hand when they died
It's Ned, obviously
I'd give Ned a B ranking overall.
He's a great father to the boys, especially to Robb. A little hard on Rickon and a bit reckless with letting Bran climb all over the castle. I'd say the girls are a weak spot for him though, as he's far too lenient with Arya and leaves Sansa in la la land.
Ultimately Ned's a good father but he makes plenty of mistakes and is far too trusting of others with the safety of his children.
How is he too lenient with Arya?
@@seto_kaiba_ Ned enables behavior which is not appropriate for a highborn lady and lets his daughter run wild most of the time. Unsupervised. Which is incredibly dangerous and frankly, irresponsible parenting.
Additionally, Arya commonly being in a state to be mistaken for an unwashed stable boy reflects poorly on her parents and her family name. Her zero to one hundred temper is also a big problem. If she were a boy I think the fandom would call her toxic instead of giving her violent outbursts a pass. Ultimately she's an exceptionally privileged nine year old who needs to be taught she can't just hit and back talk anyone she wants.
Ned does a pretty poor job of rectifying this behavior. He even rewards Arya by arranging private "dancing lessons" for her after she's already attacked the crown prince (yes, she made the incident with the butcher's boy 100% worse by striking out in anger the way she did) and tackled her sister to the ground and beat her in front of everyone. Most father's in asoiaf would've sent their daughter home in shame after an incident like this.
Ned, in my opinion, is too soft when it comes to Arya. Simply because she reminds him of his sister.
@@MarieCurtis92spot on, especially the "Arya would be considered toxic if she was male" 100% true, and Ned definitely gives her a pass because she reminds him of Lyanna.
@@aceambling7685 Gotta love double standards. 😂
@@MarieCurtis92 No the fandom would not call her toxic if she were a boy and if they did, I'd be the first one to tell them off. Arya was defending a friend from Joffrey. The King didn't punish her because he knew what his son was like and Ned was starting to learn to. He isn't going to be that hard on her for upholding his values. Ned values honor and bravery. Why would he be mad at her for this? Its dangerous sure but its also very typical for how Ned (and a lot of Northmen to be honest) would behave.
I could listen to your two talk about our boy Robert Baratheon all day.
the way you rationalized tywin 😂 are either of you lawyers ??!?!?! 😅
You know Ramsey is a different kind of bastard if even the Hilt Honchos can't defend him 😂
I love how stanis tells his wife not to strike his daughter but then burns her Alive.. lol smh
Totally agree on Bobby B. Only "bad" thing he did was beating that little shit Joffrey whenever he desrved it, he even went light on him.
The satire is real in this
Literally not satire
How is this satire truer words have never been speaker before.
@@AerysIIFirstofhisname I think your name tells me all I need to know on your opinion
The criticism direct here against Ned Stark are either constructins (who says that he lets his children watch the execution every time?) or have nothing to do with his parenting skills. Bran does what countless of boys do, not because his father is so big on honour.
Robert Baratheon didn't have TIME to be a proper father!? He had time to whore, drink, overeat, and hunt! I believe he had the time to invest in his kids' lives (whom I believe he truly thought were his).
Isnt the night king a great dad ? He wants to make everyone his child, he cares for crasters foster kids and makes them generals. Just great wholesome stuff
Well we all know Craster is the best father. SPEAKING OF WHICH CRASTER VIDEO WHEN?!?!?!!?
Hmmm sorry lads I had to skip to see where you put Tywin if Ned is C tier😅 strange takes to say the least
Where do you put those two?
Jorah the andal being your son automatic F
Roose Bolton, father of the year...duh
Roose did nothing wrong
@@OurHiltsHurt Except for siring Ramsay.
Cap. He failed to protect his trueborn son from Ramsey.
If you don’t count the show, Stannis is an S tier dad. She gets greyscale and he says no way, whatever it takes to heal her. She’s best friends with the fool that’s a constant reminder of his parents’sl deaths and he lets them hang out because it makes her happy. And if I remember correctly, he specifically claims her as his heir and insists that his crown will go to her. That’s a legacy, Stannis is a Chad dad in the books
I dont know about mr Stark, every good father has a soft spot for his daughter and spoils her, look at Arya he does not like that she wants to be a warrior and still lets her do it. You guys are talking like he should have been more strict and be like "this is what s gonna happen" would any of us be happy with a father that crushes your dream and forces you to be a stereotypical character if you wouldn t want to be one? Also i kind of get Jon Snow treatment, bastards in westeros are frowned upon. Jon is not a bastard and he does not want to expose his identity plus i think he would have to sleep on a couch a few more times if he treated him equally to Robb thanks to Catts jelausy. Wolwes pups alright they are not dogs, but i think almost every single animal can be domesticated if you get it as a baby and nurture it among humans etc.. Of course they still have the nature of that animal but they are not killing anyone on sight without a reason. Bran whatever he could strictly forbidden that type of ativity i guess. He is more fair and loving to his children than any other of those guys, tries to teach them good morals (ofc in westeros those are often to your detriment) and would die for any of them.
this would have been perfect for next week...
you know... Father's Day weekend
I'm just bustin' chops. You both are awesome. I could listen to you talk about GoT and HotD all day
We had a recording issue and had to release this video a week earlier lol
@@OurHiltsHurt **insert the "doing math in my head" meme here**
I honestly wish Tywin would’ve been the one to take the Throne. I really think the North could come up with a compromise to stay independent, but still cater to the Kingdoms. He may not have been the best person morally, but he was a damn smart guy.
I am humbly requesting a pro-Joffrey video. Rewatching Im noticing how much I enjoy his interactions with Cersei and Margarey. Mogging his mother, nerding out over crossbows and dragons. He's genuinely infatuated with Margarey but not simping either. Obviously in the books hes much more good looking and charismatic as well. Another point in defense of Joffrey, hes a 13 year old incest child with a sadistic, spoiling mother and both of his fathers are absentee psychopaths obsessed with violence and sex. (Yes, we love Bobby B, but he's not the best role model, even considering his ranking on this list).
Also we know Joffrey could have been corrected by a stern present father because every time Tyrion or Tywin harshly chastised him he actually took it and (at least temporarily) altered his behavior. He almost seemed to have a certain respect for Tyrion as his elder before Tywin showed up and pushed Tyrion down the totem pole.
@@aceambling7685 he most definitely did not respect Tyrion at all, and temporarily correcting his behavior out of fear isn't a good thing.
Yeah Robert was not a good father, king, or role model. He slapped an eight year old Joffrey so hard he lost teeth because of the cat thing, but clearly he was emulating Robert's hunting and wanted to please and impress his father. And even though Myrcella and Tommen aren't like Joffrey they aren't treated well so people can't even make the excuse that he treats Joffrey bd because of his actions.
@@fightingmedialounge519 if he didnt respect Tyrion he would have told the Hound to kill him for striking the King, he threatened his own mother for doing the same. Fear compliance isnt ideal, but with some people, especially dangerous young men, its the only thing that works.
@@aceambling7685 no, because Tyrion is there because of tywin who joffrey fears(he also partially fears Tyrion). He actually does threaten Tyrion several times. It actually doesn't because the minute the people they fear are gone, they go back to their horrible selfs.
The main reason i watch you guys is cuz of your interesting POVs
I don’t believe Stan 100% believed the sacrificing would save everyone and there is no telling if she wasn’t sacrificed than the world would end. So, I think Stan deserved to die after “sacrificing” his child.
Mace always he is THE GOAT. Dont listen to the other peasents. I mean did you hear his voice. Living legend !!!
Do mothers next that’s a banger
Jon Arryn make Robert king , and ruled the kingdom for him ,he should be number 1
His sweet Robin hurts his rankings
Fathers are more vital than mothers too
@@OurHiltsHurtno Sweetrobin slander shall be tolerated. Breast milk maxxing is based, I foresee a future where man can go to Cafe staffed by new mothers and have freshly squeezed colostrum in his coffee. Robin is sickly, but this is the price he pays for his powerful psychic abilities, enhanced by the weirwood throne. Many men of great will and intellect paid for their gifts with illness of body and mind. We see this clearly with Robin's cousin Bran, who paid for his abilities with the use of his legs.
Stan is AT BEST a D Tier dad, bro lets patches just hang around his kid.
the boy frey had a million sons tand he was tryna put ALL them on while simultaneously showering them with that tough love
7:23
Saw the king himself
Immediate bust
A gift and a curse
@@OurHiltsHurt truly
#walderfreyforking
The Great Walder Frey
Tywin definitely hated Tyrion lol. Literally seconds after Jaime said to spare Tyrion life and have him taken off the Kings guard to be his heir in casterly rock, Tywin accepted to replace Tyrion with Jamie
And Ramsey is only a psychopath because of how his dad raised him
Madness has overtaken our city!!!!!
Caitlin is Sansa’s fault not Ned.
Ned is head of the household, he is responsible.
I'm literally so happy to see this video (finally ik that common sense isn't dead!!!!)
Hardest choices requires the strongest wil
Stannis: Burns his daughter alive
Roose Bolton: His son speaks for hisself
Yeah, definitely a C tier dad alongside Ned Stark 😂
Mace Tyrell and the Tyrells in general are probably the best family in the books. Just from reading the books (the show kinda made him a dumb loveable uncle who could cook a good bbq) I think he is a really good political thinker. Every move he made would benefit his family, to grant further power to his kids and family. He even has good friendships with his powerful vassals which the other great houses seem unable to do. I think he is going to try to marry his daughter to young Giff (Aegon) when Tommen eventually dies from poising from the sand snakes.
Tywin: The stern stepdad Westeros needed during the reigns of Ayres II Targaryen and Ayres III Joffrey.
I wouldn't say, that Walder is such a good dad because he doesn't real, seas his children as persons, but more as bargaining Tools. He cared for his children, but not because they were his children
😂😂 don't take the channel seriously.
S tier dad tries to sentence his son to death for a murder he didnt commit?
Idk if Walder is a good father but he’s gotta have experience the most.
Roose doesn't legitimize Ramsey for Ramsey's sake lol he does it so the Bolton line doesn't die with himself. He's known basically since Ramsey was a young boy that he was a fuckin psychopath too. He said as much. He tried to teach him how to be a secret psychopath so as not to get his people to turn on him, but Ramsey wouldn't listen, and Roose basically said "fuck it. I gave it the bare minimum. I guess there's nothing I can do" lmao he's a terrible father. He KNOWS that Ramsey killed his LEGITIMATE son! And he's basically cool with it!!
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm sure it's a banger!! BTW, where tf is our Craster video???
Nah placing tarley at A is the most wild shit ive ever seen. From parenthood being the point of living to celebrating tarley’s treatment of sam, this vid is filllllled with so many redflags
My fathers in thrones good day to you
I'm predicting Roose Bolton wins Best Father over the other guys in the thumbnail.
Edit: Forgot about their devotion to Walder Frey.
In Roose's defense, yeah, having your one living kid turn out to be a serial grapist murderer is generally not seen as being the result of good parenting. However, when one considers House Bolton's long history sadistic shenanigans, the argument could be made that Roose really helped Ramsay to get in touch with his heritage.
Also, are we really 100% sure that Ramsay is a serial grapist murderer? Seems to me that the reports of his malfeasances are learned mostly second-hand. The one POV character in a position to confirm these dastardly deeds has clearly had a mental breakdown and may be suffering PTSD induced hallucinations.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also could you make a video about the second dance of the dragon which may happen in winds of winter
I disagree with randell tarly bc Sam while not a good combat dude at all. Hell hes a self proclaimed coward, BUT hes smart, that could have been cultivated to be the best support for his brother. His brother is a hothead, seriously dragon fire, And randell tarly let him?? Another negative against him.
If its not stannis then you failed
By the thumbnail...I thought....you meant a different kind of Daddy lol
I was like " Tywin...is...so daddy? Hmm.." bahaha
Walder Frey was still pumping out heirs
Randy tarley is like Red Forman from that 70s show
Is this channel satire? I'm new here. I thought maybe they have just extremely different opinions than me until they got to Craster. There's no way a real person can actually have that opinion, right?
I'm like 90% sure this is satire, but the fact I'm not completely sure just makes the videos even funnier
Well, based on this video. I hope you aren't or ever will be fathers 😂👌
Craster.
Only correct answer
30:00 Bro you guys are horrible. I feel so bad for laughing so hard!!🤣🤣🤣
Don't worry. This is a safe space for it.
Jaime is solid B tier.
How Ned wasn't good father, he literally do anything for his children's lives imo
Ned easily one of the best father in GOT
Robb, Jon, and Bran were fantastic, great leaders when they needed to be. Until Bran became a weirdo in the later seasons. Arya and Sansa were not the best raised, arya was pretty much not raised at all. Rickon was just a random little kid.