Well if you don’t stretch the rig’s wb you should not go more than 33” to 35” tire. Keep the COG low as possible with the suspension so given it’s a JL you don’t need much of any lift to put larger tires on vs. stock. Just get it set up right to how you wheel. Don’t bother putting 37’s on a SWB Wrangler unless you have the coin to stretch the wheelbase to 100” plus even if it’s a mall crawler. Of course JLs are more forgiving than previous Wrangler gens.
Everyone does 35's - 37's. Heck, I'm running 35's on my 2-door for less than $700 outlay in suspension componentry. But What I have hardly every seen is someone doing a proper lift, ON A 2 DOOR, that can daily drive 39's. Perhaps something like the BFGoodrich Baja TA KR, or the equivalent 39" tires from General Grabber X3's or Yokohamas, etc. It's relatively easy to get a 2-door JL on 37's.... BUT 39'S !?!? A lift with a full look at the regear process, driveshafts, steering & braking nannies, and what it takes from start to finish to get the modern electronics to play nice are things not often covered, but 100% necessary, in a instructional vid on lifting the JL. I think we don't want to see solutions that involve, "If we throw this huge amount of money at this..." A built, not bought, lift series. But Ryan, it's your Jeep. What do YOU want???
I love to see stock Wranglers out on the trail. I ordered my '22 Willys and took delivery in January '22. Last year we wheeled it stock just to see what it could do and I was amazed. All we really needed was clearance. June '23 we upgraded to a 2.5" Rock Krawler lift and some 315/70r17 Duratracs. No issues anywhere we went this season. I love this series.
Is Ryan a beginner? If so, thats a great thing ... Off road training for all the beginners that watch your channel. Cuz toooo many people listen to forums and comments, then think they are going to buy a Jeep and go straight into Rock Crawling. And think they need 40's and massive axles straight away. This way they learn that you actually grow into it. This creek run is a big deal to a beginner. (My wife is a newbie, so i take it easy-ish... I don't want to scare her out of wheeling). All that said, its amazing what a Jeep can do straight off the lot ... With a proper set of tires.
Love this! Thanks so much for using a 2 door, no one seems to. I have the limited lift, due to my garage height. So this made me feel a little more capable, when it seems everyone is much higher than me, lol.
First mod on a Sport or a Sahara should be a good set of BFGs. That alone makes a huge change in its capability. Disconnecting the sway bar for off roading is also a free mod that greatly helps out! I have a JK Sport that I have been building since stock ibut t has always been a very capable mountain goat... Tires, sway bar disconnect, lift kit... ready for some fun on the rugged terrain!!!
I like RT tires myself. Wish BFG would make some. My Ridge Grapplers are amazing off road and pretty good on road. A set of 285/70r17s will fit on a stock Sport.
Great video of Wrangler Sport stock capability. I bought a 2021 Wrangler JLU EcoDiesel. The first thing I did was purchase Wrangler Ultra Terrain tires with the same height as the stock ones. I then drove it about 30,000 in 2 years on trails in Arizona, Utah, and Nevada and of course around town and on the highway. I lifted it with a 2 1/2 inch Terraflex diesel lift and put on 33" tires. What a difference. I could drive without scrapping almost any trail I want. I did find a few trails where a set of 35s would have been nice but not until I wear out the 33s. So, buying a 4 door Sport, adding 33" tires and a 2.5 inch lift takes me on trails where most people would normally drive without getting crazy. I still have fun for less than $50,000 and my fuel economy is still pretty good. I average 22 over the course of a year.
Some 285/70r17s will fit on a stock sport. Ask me how I know. 🤣 Throw on a small puck lift (1" or less) and you can fit a set of 285/75r17s, maybe even some 35x11.5s (I have this size on my Wrangler with a 2" puck spacer lift) with a wheel with the right offset or some wheel spacers to keep it from rubbing the suspension.
Regarding your Affiliated Dealer Program, i have to say that I was skeptical, at best. After being worn down by the local sales antics I gave your web form a try. I now know I wasted so much time messing with local dealers. I received a hassle free quote with $0 in nonsense mark ups or bull. And the price was below MSRP and drastically better than i could find via any search method. I may never buy a car another way. Thank you for finding a fair dealer and sharing it with the world!
Wow, not only am I impressed but I cannot wait to take my Gladiator out on the trails… I was also intrigued by the 13 psi you guys ran on the stock wheels and tires. Now is this something that if you go slow you should be ok with or are beadlock wheels a better option? Looking forward to this build for sure!! Keep up the incredible work!! 👍
Very few beadlocks are DOT certified (therefore illegal to run on public roads) and can be unsafe if you don't regularly torque the bolts. I have stock wheels on 35x11.5" tires. I've run 14-15 psi all day long and never had an issue debeading a tire. Beadlocks aren't really needed unless you're doing wheeling that requires airing down to single digits (7+ rated trails).
looks like fun I have wheeled my Can am commander there lots of rocks and water some holes are deeper than they look lol had the bottom drop out on me hand had to pin it once the seats went under good times
Wow. Certainly different from the first time I seen Matt on the interwebs with the JK deep in and out the ditch on the property before/after the 5.7 swap. Looks like some chilled dudes could use some coffee on that Pennsylvania afternoon.
I have a question on the 2024 wrangler jlu. It appears that they changed the cargo area plastic trim on the driver side. It extends forward from the roll bar to right behind the second row seats. Is that area vacant or did they add something there?
If Ryan wants to do some rubicon axles and sway bar I know a guy with some new take outs. Just saying. Great video. Wish we could have made it out there.
Flash floods can happen at anytime. Never travel up a creek or low area with rain clouds in the area or up to 20 miles away. It could be pouring just 10 miles away. A wall of water can actually come at any time. I am a search and rescue person and know this as a fact. Please don't make videos in dangerous situations!
@@DIRTROADCRED Oh cool. I'm in NEPA and just getting into offroading. Trying to get a rig together that can handle some of the harder trails around the area
He has rock sliders. I don’t know why he would need a spotter driving up that creek. Maybe he is a new driver. The JL is very good even with open diffs and all season tires.
I'm fairly local and AOAA is my park of choice in this area. Great seeing it getting some exposure while building Ryans new JL. Any chance on a subscriber trail ride anytime?
They are the Rubi Rails www.extremeterrain.com/barricade-rubi-rails-textured-black-2018-jeep-jl-2-door.html?XT+General+No+Vehicle+High+LTVMiddle&dialogtech=ppc&T5_Var2=shopping&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADdHURRAgMM4jHT2yJVr22HUIeBFs&gclid=CjwKCAiA8NKtBhBtEiwAq5aX2B9yZu-rymBVjfa8BIEIa1LdPP6HoE9nmZ1Vtyy8g9ndvPv3bw-iexoCW2MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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How high should we lift this Jeep?
Need Suggestions!
Well if you don’t stretch the rig’s wb you should not go more than 33” to 35” tire. Keep the COG low as possible with the suspension so given it’s a JL you don’t need much of any lift to put larger tires on vs. stock. Just get it set up right to how you wheel. Don’t bother putting 37’s on a SWB Wrangler unless you have the coin to stretch the wheelbase to 100” plus even if it’s a mall crawler. Of course JLs are more forgiving than previous Wrangler gens.
2 inch
2.5"
Everyone does 35's - 37's. Heck, I'm running 35's on my 2-door for less than $700 outlay in suspension componentry.
But
What I have hardly every seen is someone doing a proper lift, ON A 2 DOOR, that can daily drive 39's. Perhaps something like the BFGoodrich Baja TA KR, or the equivalent 39" tires from General Grabber X3's or Yokohamas, etc.
It's relatively easy to get a 2-door JL on 37's....
BUT 39'S !?!?
A lift with a full look at the regear process, driveshafts, steering & braking nannies, and what it takes from start to finish to get the modern electronics to play nice are things not often covered, but 100% necessary, in a instructional vid on lifting the JL.
I think we don't want to see solutions that involve, "If we throw this huge amount of money at this..." A built, not bought, lift series.
But Ryan, it's your Jeep. What do YOU want???
2.5”
I love to see stock Wranglers out on the trail. I ordered my '22 Willys and took delivery in January '22. Last year we wheeled it stock just to see what it could do and I was amazed. All we really needed was clearance. June '23 we upgraded to a 2.5" Rock Krawler lift and some 315/70r17 Duratracs. No issues anywhere we went this season. I love this series.
Thanks for the comment. A lot of fun!
Such a cool vid. The fall colors made it even better. Ryan earning his cred 🤜😀
Thanks brotha!
Is Ryan a beginner? If so, thats a great thing ... Off road training for all the beginners that watch your channel. Cuz toooo many people listen to forums and comments, then think they are going to buy a Jeep and go straight into Rock Crawling. And think they need 40's and massive axles straight away. This way they learn that you actually grow into it. This creek run is a big deal to a beginner. (My wife is a newbie, so i take it easy-ish... I don't want to scare her out of wheeling). All that said, its amazing what a Jeep can do straight off the lot ... With a proper set of tires.
First time! Thanks for watching
-Ryan
Love this! Thanks so much for using a 2 door, no one seems to. I have the limited lift, due to my garage height. So this made me feel a little more capable, when it seems everyone is much higher than me, lol.
First mod on a Sport or a Sahara should be a good set of BFGs. That alone makes a huge change in its capability. Disconnecting the sway bar for off roading is also a free mod that greatly helps out! I have a JK Sport that I have been building since stock ibut t has always been a very capable mountain goat... Tires, sway bar disconnect, lift kit... ready for some fun on the rugged terrain!!!
Yup! Mine came with km3's, maybe it was km2? But I Loved those tires!
We have a lot planned. Thanks for the suggestions!
I like RT tires myself. Wish BFG would make some. My Ridge Grapplers are amazing off road and pretty good on road. A set of 285/70r17s will fit on a stock Sport.
I scratched mine all over and bent the tailpipe when it was still stock on small rocks. Still had a blast the first day out on the trails
Right on! We had a blast
Those fall colors are beautiful- prime time
It was gorgeous!
Great video of Wrangler Sport stock capability. I bought a 2021 Wrangler JLU EcoDiesel. The first thing I did was purchase Wrangler Ultra Terrain tires with the same height as the stock ones. I then drove it about 30,000 in 2 years on trails in Arizona, Utah, and Nevada and of course around town and on the highway. I lifted it with a 2 1/2 inch Terraflex diesel lift and put on 33" tires. What a difference. I could drive without scrapping almost any trail I want. I did find a few trails where a set of 35s would have been nice but not until I wear out the 33s. So, buying a 4 door Sport, adding 33" tires and a 2.5 inch lift takes me on trails where most people would normally drive without getting crazy. I still have fun for less than $50,000 and my fuel economy is still pretty good. I average 22 over the course of a year.
Some 285/70r17s will fit on a stock sport. Ask me how I know. 🤣 Throw on a small puck lift (1" or less) and you can fit a set of 285/75r17s, maybe even some 35x11.5s (I have this size on my Wrangler with a 2" puck spacer lift) with a wheel with the right offset or some wheel spacers to keep it from rubbing the suspension.
I really enjoy wheeling stock Jeeps off-road VS 40’s etc, it’s just so much more fun.
Regarding your Affiliated Dealer Program, i have to say that I was skeptical, at best. After being worn down by the local sales antics I gave your web form a try. I now know I wasted so much time messing with local dealers. I received a hassle free quote with $0 in nonsense mark ups or bull. And the price was below MSRP and drastically better than i could find via any search method. I may never buy a car another way. Thank you for finding a fair dealer and sharing it with the world!
Loved the content guys. Looks like an awesome day.
It was!
Wow, not only am I impressed but I cannot wait to take my Gladiator out on the trails…
I was also intrigued by the 13 psi you guys ran on the stock wheels and tires. Now is this something that if you go slow you should be ok with or are beadlock wheels a better option?
Looking forward to this build for sure!!
Keep up the incredible work!! 👍
Very few beadlocks are DOT certified (therefore illegal to run on public roads) and can be unsafe if you don't regularly torque the bolts. I have stock wheels on 35x11.5" tires. I've run 14-15 psi all day long and never had an issue debeading a tire. Beadlocks aren't really needed unless you're doing wheeling that requires airing down to single digits (7+ rated trails).
Not a bad performance for a basic sport, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Aswome job Ryan!!!,your a rock star 👍👍👍
Crawling pro lol
I would love to see if Jeeps power box will work on older Jeep 4xe like 21-23 model
looks like fun I have wheeled my Can am commander there lots of rocks and water some holes are deeper than they look lol had the bottom drop out on me hand had to pin it once the seats went under good times
For sure! We definitely tried some stuff that looked easier, but ended up being pretty challenging.
Beautiful fall colors!
Couldn't beat it!
Great day wheeling it.
Wow. Certainly different from the first time I seen Matt on the interwebs with the JK deep in and out the ditch on the property before/after the 5.7 swap. Looks like some chilled dudes could use some coffee on that Pennsylvania afternoon.
We have come a long way! less destruction lol
@@DIRTROADCRED
"Less destruction. More production!"
I have a question on the 2024 wrangler jlu. It appears that they changed the cargo area plastic trim on the driver side. It extends forward
from the roll bar to right behind the second row seats. Is that area vacant or did they add something there?
If you’re talking about the top sides of the rollbar, they added side curtain airbags on the 2024+
@@horaciolopez7721 No. I was talking about the plastic trim below the hard top from the rear tailgate to behind the second row seats.
Just a friendly comment but left/right or driver/passenger is more helpful than this way/that way for the driver 😊
Thanks for the suggestion!
you helped ryan lose his virginity.
Jeep named Little Leaf. he had a leaf riding on the hood.
haha he is now one with his Jeep
If Ryan wants to do some rubicon axles and sway bar I know a guy with some new take outs. Just saying. Great video. Wish we could have made it out there.
Rubicon axles would be solid..
Next time around you're joining us!
@@DIRTROADCRED I’ve got a set with Ryan’s name on them. Next trip for us is sema. Then I want to get north for some snow wheeling!
Just goes to show how capable a stock Jeep is 👍
You said it! We were very surprised
Looking to buy a jeep, is the open rear diff a deal breaker vs the limited slip on the Willy’s? Thanks!
Flash floods can happen at anytime. Never travel up a creek or low area with rain clouds in the area or up to 20 miles away. It could be pouring just 10 miles away. A wall of water can actually come at any time. I am a search and rescue person and know this as a fact. Please don't make videos in dangerous situations!
Thanks for the advice!
GET OUT OF THE WAY, MATT! Phew, you're safe!
TOO CLOSE
Great video, looking forward to seeing how the build goes. Are you guys based in PA?
We are in central PA!
@@DIRTROADCRED Oh cool. I'm in NEPA and just getting into offroading. Trying to get a rig together that can handle some of the harder trails around the area
He has rock sliders. I don’t know why he would need a spotter driving up that creek.
Maybe he is a new driver. The JL is very good even with open diffs and all season tires.
Is this the anvil paint color? It looks like it has slightly more green, but I can’t tell if it’s an illusion because of the surroundings.
It’s Anvil!
Whoa- that was intense! Hope it sounded worse then it was- blue trail crazy!
When they have major $10,000 discounts, I’m looking at a new one. It’s coming.
This isn’t really related, but when do you think they’ll come out with a 4xe gladiator 👀
I'm fairly local and AOAA is my park of choice in this area. Great seeing it getting some exposure while building Ryans new JL. Any chance on a subscriber trail ride anytime?
Me and a few friend were up there from Va a few weeks back and did Rausch for the first time and AOAA for the second time. AOAA is by far better….
It is a great park! Check our community tab, this past weekend was our first one.
@@DIRTROADCRED Dang, sorry I missed it. Will try for next time!
I like those tube doors. Quadratec?
Mopar!
Does it have limited slip?
I'm from eastern Arkansas, 7 miles from Memphis, where's AOA located? always looking for new trails to go on.
AOAA is in Pennsylvania!
I was waiting for the, F it, ain’t my Jeep!😅
haha shhhhhhh
Sorry I couldn’t make it boys !
What rock rail is that on the 2 door? Factory? Thx
They are the Rubi Rails
www.extremeterrain.com/barricade-rubi-rails-textured-black-2018-jeep-jl-2-door.html?XT+General+No+Vehicle+High+LTVMiddle&dialogtech=ppc&T5_Var2=shopping&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADdHURRAgMM4jHT2yJVr22HUIeBFs&gclid=CjwKCAiA8NKtBhBtEiwAq5aX2B9yZu-rymBVjfa8BIEIa1LdPP6HoE9nmZ1Vtyy8g9ndvPv3bw-iexoCW2MQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
What brand and model rock sliders are on the Jeep?
Rubi rails!
www.extremeterrain.com/barricade-rubi-rails-textured-black-2018-jeep-jl-2-door.html
@@DIRTROADCRED Thanks very much!
Bad thing is corrosion will cost us all thousands of dollars….finally get a Jeep and then it’s crap
You should driver or passenger then he know which way to turn without pointing
Good call!
Ryan - This was very stressful to watch! And that scraping sound...yikes!
The metal scraping sound is the worst
I thought we broke it
-Ryan