Having spent a year in a wheelchair myself I have become so exasperated with how unfriendly most places are to wheelchair users. Even a moderately inclined ramp can be very difficult. But one of the worst things are door sills into public places. I nearly dumped over many times trying to get over a raised sill. No matter how experienced you are in a wheelchair, there are always obstacles that make it rough.
In the Philippines there are lots of steep ones but only in cheap commercial buildings and public hospitals. Malls and high-class private hospitals have friendlier ramp height inclination.
I love the way that the wheelchair lift is so seamlessly integrated into the architecture. Too bad it's much more expensive and requires more maintenance than a simple ramp.
Yeah, as soon as the steps started sliding away I knew it was over engineered fluff. All we need is one stair to jam and now the lift doesn’t work whereas a lift next to the stairs wouldn’t have that issue.
@@rept7 right, I think there is a specific incline% limit anyway. If you want to meet the requirements, just make the ramp longer. If there is a space problem just do it in a spiral pattern.
@Angryperson No they're expensive in the UK I had to buy mine off Facebook because I couldn't work to save for one. The paths where I live are terrible, some places it's hard to be pushed in a chair. With more practice I could have gotten better, I try not to use it much. I've been able to use crutches few years now and my arm muscles are massive 💪
@@ellamayo1452 I have heard many similar stories in the US with insurance not covering wheel chairs people having to buy ones that don't fit/hurt just to live life cuz they are crazy expensive w/out insurance. Sending you all the good vibes and I sincerely hope the systems in place improve sooner than later.
@Angryperson Manual wheelchairs are a couple hundred dollars. Electric wheelchairs and scooters are a few thousand. Gee...wonder why so many people use manual wheelchairs? 🙄
@@kelf114 ...... I mean... That's really terrible when you consider the cost for someone to make a "cobbled together" version at a fraction of the cost and how much harder it is for someone who needs it to make one for themselves. Motors and rechargeable power sources aren't nearly that expensive. Nor is it that hard to keep most of it weather-proofed. I better start setting parts aside for when my mom needs one eventually.
Thankyou Arianna, sending good vibes back 🤗 I know electric chairs can't cost that much to make. I needed one or a mobility scooter, even now to get places too far to crutch. But saving up for a car that's my next goal
@@Corvus__ might have been a scammer posting his malware link to get unsuspecting clicks aka infections. No it couldn't have been that bc TH-cam never removes those comments.
"The ramp is too steep" does not lead to the logical conclusion "we should spend $500,000 designing, prototyping, certifying and installing an over-engineered, complex mechanism with 1,300 different points of failure that in the end is so slow they'll wish they had the ramp back". Just make longer ramps my dude.
@@jjbarajas5341 suuuure, that's why they have 50ft-wide marble stairs... All it takes is one turn and suddenly you can fit a whole ramp and stairs in that same space, it just doesn't look as grandiose.
@@adisabledicon you think fat people like stairs? Life is difficult for everyone in different ways. Making simple tasks impossible isn’t good, but making everything about life easy isn’t good either.
@@Deckape75 or they could've just built it cross-sectional so it cuts through stairs and become much less steep. But I guess that's too much job for "ehh fuck it, nobody gonna use it anyway"
Seems more reasonable to me to assume at the end of the design meeting where the stairs were locked down, someone went 'Oh crap we need a ramp, but all the other building dimensions are already locked. Oh well, let's take a meter off the stairs and make it a ramp, done'
Once you're in a wheelchair for life or a long time I'm sure they discover tips and tricks that help them avoid situations like that and also improve their quality of life..
@@myman8336 Yeah, no, a steep ramp is a steep ramp. If it's steep enough, you pick up too much speed and need distance at the bottom to stop. That's physics. Also I'm a wheelchair user & have been for over 6 years. My doctor's clinic has an alternate entrance other than the lift, only it's up a super steep hill that I can't go up and if I go down, there's a real risk of running into traffic at the bottom because there's no stopping distance.
It's not gonna happen in this lifetime. Even it if it will (which is impossible due to so many technical difficulties) it won't be wildly accesibile. At best a few hundred that costed dozens of thousands to make.
It is universal in the sense that everyone who can move across a flat surface can access it. Of course it would be easier to have a ground level entrance, however those are a little tricky to retrofit onto houses that don't have them already.
Universal design is a principle that refers to designs intended to benefit disabled people and increase accessibility, but that also happen to help non-disabled people. For example, a lift (or a properly designed ramp) could be used by people who have a stroller, too, even if it's designed for wheelchair use initially. That's "universal design." Hope that helps.
Bro even the universal one has marble or some high end stone cladding the steps versus the one with the ramp. Totally different budgets or affordability.
You'd be amazed at the daft shit people design. I work in a hospital and they built a new wheelchair accessible toilet, loads of room inside, grab rails, all good... and a door too narrow to fit a wheelchair in.
I feel like most businesses/buildings think that you just need some form of ramp or they just have a guideline that it has to be accessible but can’t be fucked putting actual effort into it
Great, then when the lift breaks down constantly, which it inevitably will, there won't even be a "hostile ramp" alternative to use. An actual ramp that's long enough is a much more reasonable solution.
Me too, I even made a little grunt sound as he was trying to get up that last little bit, as if it were me doing the work and trying to get up there, lol
As cool as the second one is, that's probably a rather expensive option. That said, the ramp in the first video is rather clearly not to code. The building was probably granted some exemption.
It could happen one wrong line of code since their is nothing physically blocking the stairs from going back in it would be terrible and one reason I don’t like the design
I can't tell whether you are leftwing or rightwing with this comment. Cause while the right is usually the one to complain about this, handicap rights tends to be a leftwing issue. (After all the right would be opposed to government regulations on these things since that's intrusive)
@@speedy01247 i wasn't trying to make a political statement. Just saying the music choice for the video was a bit too "early 2000s funny animal home video" for my type. Its not fucking funny
@@davidnorwood5685 as we should. Most get suicidal before they accept the change after injury. We can free them from that by just dumping them into Hell. We’ll meet them there later Bonus; The disabled don’t have to worry about pesky moral qualms like “Will I be punished for killing myself?”, you’re not doing it. We are. Enjoy Heaven, you beautiful creature :)
@@davidnorwood5685 I was fully expecting the stairs to slide back out after the walls raised. Only to slowly crush the disabled person. . But I also kinda expected them to fall in a pit. . Glad to know I'm not the only one who felt this way xD
It would be smart if they had some pulley option to hold onto or attach to the wheel chair that would pull it up cheaper then a full lift and possibly easier to add on rather then. (Perhaps a towline or something attached to the railing that one can hold onto)
Weight activated switches are really simple technology, pretty sure a complicated design like this has at least two, one to prevent the stairs from retracting when someone is on them and one to have elevator wait until the passanger has entered.
I know a big city's library that bought an elevator. I've never seen it without an "out of order" sign. They ended up building a wooden ramp to put above the stairs. I forgot to mention: it was an indoor elevator, so no rain, snow, ice, leaves...
Its not about efficiency, that lift is about maintaining the traditional aesthetic of the building. The owners don't want it to have a ramp because the ramp is "modern". They paid extra for the aesthetic.
I encountered one this steep but maybe one step shorter here in Texas USA. Ironically it was at a disabilities conference on making things more accessible. There was a line of us wheelchair users around the entrance trying to get in. Sadly that was 3+ years ago and they've done nothing to make that building more accessible.
@@thesunrisechick That's awesome. Wish we had the same care and maintenance for our stuff. Even the roads end up being worse than if they were just gravel. Goes to show that choosing the lowest bid for a job is one of the worst possible ways to choose who does the job
The easier solution is just to make the wheel chair ramp longer and less high or just lower the height of the ramp and just double side it like how stairs are in small rectangle spaces
You can't just "lower the height". The only way to reduce the slope of the ramp is to increase the length of the ramp. I mean you could just make a smaller ramp but then it wouldn't reach the door.
Now that my daughter is wheelchair bound, I have found that most handicap accessible places are not truly accessible. The corners are too tight or too narrow. Many places have too steep an incline (though not as steep as this one) or have thresholds that are too high. I guess it looks good on paper!
Yep, I became an amputee a year ago and so many places that boast about being wheelchair accessible aren't really all that accessible...including my college. Half the time the electric door openers are broken, the ramps are too steep and narrow with nowhere to rest, bathrooms can't fit my wheelchair easily so I bump into the walls trying to get in and out, halls are too narrow to turn so I often scrape the walls, the classrooms that have auditorium seating only have one entrance with a small wheelchair accessible area at the top of stairs which is super dangerous if you misjudge you'll go straight down a flight of stairs and some classrooms have a step platform immediately going in so I have to do a bunny hop or leave my wheelchair there while someone else pulls it up the step. You have to hunt for the elevators and ramps and they are often hidden or a long ways away so it takes me several times longer distance to get somewhere than everyone else. Its ridiculous. I brought all these concerns up with Disability Services and they always pretend to be concerned/horrified but nothing ever gets done about it. I am guessing because they may be legally grandfathered in from having to comply with ADA laws because its a historical buidling...or they are wildly incompetent.
@@claritey does your wheelchair have a rachet that you can flip on and off? This would be very useful when going up hill. You don't need the slope to have a built in rest area.
@@danielch6662 Yes, I have brakes and do try to use them when I can. They help for the less steep ramps but not exactly safe for the steeper ones especially going downhill because its easy to tip forward. I have anti-tip guards to prevent me from going backwards but not forwards. Also, if you stop midway up a steep ramp its a lot harder to get the momentum to start going up again from a dead stop. If there are flat spots I can at least stop and rest. I have pretty good arm strength but several of the hills and ramps on my college I simply can't push myself up at all, someone has to push me. With the ramps if they have hand rails at least I can pull myself up but that doesn't work for hills.
Imagine having 4 people on a wheel chair, they would probably prefer going on a slightly longer ramp rather than waiting 15 minute for this thing. That is ofcourse ignoring the mechanical and electrical challenges this thing on the right have.
Agreed, a proper ramp is actually universal design since it's not necessarily just for people with disabilities. The elevator here really isn't an example of universal design, though that's not always a bad thing. Braille isn't universal design, but it still helps a lot of people. The Wikipedia page for universal design currently calls out electric bus lifts as not being universal design as compared to kneeling busses which are universal.
Although I agree that this video is pure bullshit I must say it's very unlikely that 4 people on wheel chairs will go to the same place at the same time
imagine having 20 people on foor able to climb the stairs, they would probably prefer just using the stairs of the building than waiting for the elevator. good reason to not build elevators. why normal elevators are working prefectly fine, and no issues to build and maintain them but this is a issue ? cause us normal people like to use those, and us normal people matter more. this is just a lazy excuse
i’ve been in a wheelchair for most of my life (born with a genetic disorder affecting my muscles) and it’s blatantly obvious that the people who implement the “hostile design” like shown in the video, have clearly never used a wheelchair or had to help someone in a wheelchair. even in my power chair, i would feel uncomfortable using that ramp. no railings on one side, way too steep, probably really slick when wet. it’s just dangerous. there’s no way it meets code. accessibility is a huge issue around the world, even in highly developed countries such as the UK or US. in the US, we have the ADA but it basically only applies to businesses and public places that are going to remodel. if they aren’t going to remodel, they don’t have to make the building wheelchair accessible because they are “grandfathered in.” unless someone has lived it, they just don’t care.
@@operator8014 how is requesting safe access to a public building or business a “hostile demand”? disabled people have a right to access public places safely.
@@caitlinbrowniee They can't answer you. They're too terminally online to think about a world where we might give disabled people the basic modicum of respect. I might have a degenerative muscle disorder, but if someone said that to me in person there'd be some *fierce words*, if you catch my meaning.
@@ashlet6035 how someone can think that basic, safe access is a “hostile demand” is beyond me. even at 26 years old, it still shocks me how little some people care about disabled people. they seem to forget that disabled is the only minority that ANYONE can become a part of at ANY TIME.
The ramps slope on the left is actually quite steep, making it harder to climb. If it was a less steep slope, it would be easier and much less challenging.
Damm I had two thoughts at the same time. "What a wonderful thing for- Oi wtf, hell no, that's a lot of money, they expect that in every building? oh heeell no my country barely can pay for basics."
The guy who made the ramp on the left didn’t have wheelchairs in mind. That was thinly guised, they were thinking about skateboards. I’m serious, I bet that’s what they were thinking.
All the while I thought they were for trolleys and wheel luggages but even if so still too inclined though. Imagine pushing tonnes of stock through that.
Alternative title: “Crappy design and thousands of dollars design” It isn’t hostile. It’s just the boobs didn’t build it right with the correct length and angle. But the other one is cool because it saves up space and can go back to steps when traffic is heavy while giving disabled individuals a more easy access
There's not really any way to tell for sure. There are ways in which businesses try to keep disabled people out though, including intentionally designing things to look accessible while actually being entirely unhelpful.
@@some-one-else That is what’s known as illegal, and the Fire Marshall would shut your business down faster than you can say “wait, we don’t call them handicapped anymore???”
@@eyespy3001 not at all. Just take a look at how the system is set up in a “progressive” nation like Canada on a regional level. Aesthetic, especially the idealized Victorian era, is more important than accessibility according to the current Ontario provincial government. Back alley ramps, or simple exceptions, are the solutions they came up with for those “protected buildings”.
Long, gradually-inclined ramps are a problem too, if they have no established place to 'rest'. Going up hill is fatiguing, and down hill can also test strength.
@@sandra-jones my country requires accessible ramps to have a 1200mm landing every 750mm of rise. There's also minimum widths, maximum angles, minimum edge upstands, non-slip surface requirements, etc. Any ramp not meeting the standard fails, and no signoff is given.
I was cheering on the dude om the left I didn't know ramps could be that difficult to use hopefully engineers see this and never make one that steep again
Ramps that steep actually violate ADA standards which cap slope at 4.8°. The people who made it either did no research, or didn't care to follow the rules and hoped nobody sued them.
imagine the back wall goes up, and the stairs start slowing going forwards again... a real life crusher with no way of jumping out. my mind is a dark place.
A dark place!?? Not at all!!! I say things like that all the time about different things I will notice and people always say I'm negative. I say I am a realist. That situation could happen for real if this contraption existed all over the world and people that think like you are vital to stuff like this to point out to the other guys that are happy and positive and the world is sooo wonderful type thinkers that they just might have made a human compactor and should put in some fail-safes so that would not become a real life situation!! Keep it real yo!
Is it bad that when the back screen raised up, I half expected the elevator to just lower into the pavement and the stairs to slide back in place? I mean it's no problem, if there IS no problem right?
Bro this is the most extreme I've seen in both videos. That ramp is a few degrees away from being classified as a tilted wall. That elevator is so excessive, it optimizes many parameters: it's athstetic, doesn't take anymore space than the stairs, electrically powered and hidden when not in use. The issue is that optimizing all these parameters occurs at extreme cost and is very unrealistic for 95% of cases. Realistically, a ramp with a less steep gradient or an elevator that isn't retractable/hidden would be a better choice. The additional costs for this elevator can only be implemented by wealthy corporations or... All of us (our tax dollars). Do you want a 200k giga elevator or 4k ramp for your taxes to be spent on? Practicality aside, it looks Uber awesome
@@sofamiller7133 Hi, I have muscular dystrophy. I can use the elevator on the right with ease. The ramp on the left and the stairs would be a challenge on a rough day. Hope this helps.
@@sofamiller7133 what’s your logic in saying that people with degenerative muscle disorders can’t use the elevator? i have very severe muscular dystrophy and although i have a power wheelchair, i’d still be able to use the elevator a lot more safely and comfortably than the ramp on the left.
The first one also looks like its out of ADA compliance due to its slope being too steep. I agree over-engineering everything isn't the answer, but that ramp is still bad.
The "universal" design is cool if the builders can afford it. But I don't think ramps are inherently "hostile". This one was hostile because it was ridiculously steep. The ADA caps ramp slope at 1:12 (4.8°). This ramp is clearly out of compliance.
And then, suddenly the london guy got trapped in that where he was being transferred to a mysterious room with 7 other random people, with an instruction simply saying, Welcome to the Minos' Escape Room. 《World of Drama》
It *should* fail in an order (close the gate at the top, lower the lift, drop the steel doors, **but do not extend the stairs**), and it would be hoped that the lift has enough power storage to do this gracefully.
@@lonewolfe2502 welp you should work on your arms more seems like daily wheel-chair pushing aint enought. and most wheel-chair ppl will have someone to aid them. it's only the 1 or 2 stubborn old ppl who demand they go for themselves or the ones with bitch children who don't want to take care of their parents, aunt or uncle.
@@Comfy_Bed I think the same engineering shown in this video could be made cheaper. You don't need to make the fancy structure that converts from stair to lift. You just have to make the structure that lifts up. You have to increase the length of the ramp to decrease the angle of the slope. So you still have to use too much energy to climb. & Why should any disabled person should expect for someone's help. We should make things easier for them. So they don't have to take help from anybody.
WoW..at first I was confused.. like, were they comparing two variations on 'bad design'? But then the kooky whistling started and I was just, "Whoa, that's *AWESOME"* 💯🥰
That steep ass ramp was just thrown in because the builders forgot to make a better one. Reminds me of when I used to play the Sims all the time and I forgot to add a bathroom, so I would just cut a 2×2 chunk out of the living room and call it a day
Having spent a year in a wheelchair myself I have become so exasperated with how unfriendly most places are to wheelchair users. Even a moderately inclined ramp can be very difficult. But one of the worst things are door sills into public places. I nearly dumped over many times trying to get over a raised sill. No matter how experienced you are in a wheelchair, there are always obstacles that make it rough.
@TONSofFUN Stfu people like you are so damn annoying.
@TONSofFUN No
@TONSofFUN literally could not get over it.
@TONSofFUN they’re handicapped in a wheelchair, they just have to work with what they have
TONSofFUN wow you're a piece of shit, you felt cool typing that huh
"Jarvis, take me to the 2nd floor please."
"Of course, sir"
LMAO
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😂
“Jarvis, take me two feet higher please.”
@@galacticknight3058 "I'm sorry, Sir. I can't do that."
That is the single steepest wheelchair ramp I've ever seen. Literally.
I’ve seen one a bit steeper, but not much.
@@rockjockchick I've seen ones that were much longer, but NEVER that steep.
In the Philippines there are lots of steep ones but only in cheap commercial buildings and public hospitals. Malls and high-class private hospitals have friendlier ramp height inclination.
once saw one at 45 degrees. Stared at it for a bit because wtf
@@thebinlgbtisbabadook7832 The hospital has steep wheelchair ramps? That's awful!
I love the way that the wheelchair lift is so seamlessly integrated into the architecture. Too bad it's much more expensive and requires more maintenance than a simple ramp.
You call THAT a seamless integration??
This is a system that is so poorly conceived that it puts A MARBLE STAIRCASE out of service upon it's failure.
Yeah, as soon as the steps started sliding away I knew it was over engineered fluff. All we need is one stair to jam and now the lift doesn’t work whereas a lift next to the stairs wouldn’t have that issue.
I was looking at that lift and all I could think was "Just make a longer ramp!"
@@rept7 I expected the camera to pan to a really long ramp lol
@@rept7 right, I think there is a specific incline% limit anyway. If you want to meet the requirements, just make the ramp longer. If there is a space problem just do it in a spiral pattern.
I've been in a wheelchair it's no joke, just going on a flat surface is hard enough. You've got to have a lot of upper body strength
@Angryperson No they're expensive in the UK I had to buy mine off Facebook because I couldn't work to save for one. The paths where I live are terrible, some places it's hard to be pushed in a chair. With more practice I could have gotten better, I try not to use it much. I've been able to use crutches few years now and my arm muscles are massive 💪
@@ellamayo1452 I have heard many similar stories in the US with insurance not covering wheel chairs people having to buy ones that don't fit/hurt just to live life cuz they are crazy expensive w/out insurance. Sending you all the good vibes and I sincerely hope the systems in place improve sooner than later.
@Angryperson Manual wheelchairs are a couple hundred dollars.
Electric wheelchairs and scooters are a few thousand.
Gee...wonder why so many people use manual wheelchairs? 🙄
@@kelf114 ...... I mean... That's really terrible when you consider the cost for someone to make a "cobbled together" version at a fraction of the cost and how much harder it is for someone who needs it to make one for themselves. Motors and rechargeable power sources aren't nearly that expensive. Nor is it that hard to keep most of it weather-proofed. I better start setting parts aside for when my mom needs one eventually.
Thankyou Arianna, sending good vibes back 🤗 I know electric chairs can't cost that much to make. I needed one or a mobility scooter, even now to get places too far to crutch. But saving up for a car that's my next goal
*Guy on the first one:* “Oh, c'mon! I gotta go pee!”
*Guy on the second one:* “Oh, c'mon! I also gotta go pee”
Guy on the first one: "oh you know what? I'll just use the bar's ones"
😹😹😹
Both are different methods but long to wait
Are you taking the piss? /s
Guy on the left one GOTTA GO FAST
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In the first one when the dude on the chair got up the workers be like
“How the fuck are you in here”
Someone coulda pushed him up too
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@@Corvus__ might have been a scammer posting his malware link to get unsuspecting clicks aka infections. No it couldn't have been that bc TH-cam never removes those comments.
@Rill ?
@@Corvus__ probs a reported comment or smth
"The ramp is too steep" does not lead to the logical conclusion "we should spend $500,000 designing, prototyping, certifying and installing an over-engineered, complex mechanism with 1,300 different points of failure that in the end is so slow they'll wish they had the ramp back".
Just make longer ramps my dude.
Idk man in tight city spaces that might not always be possible
@@jjbarajas5341 suuuure, that's why they have 50ft-wide marble stairs... All it takes is one turn and suddenly you can fit a whole ramp and stairs in that same space, it just doesn't look as grandiose.
@@tissuepaper9962 It's not like every downtown building is huge with room for that I'm just sayin
@@adisabledicon you think fat people like stairs? Life is difficult for everyone in different ways. Making simple tasks impossible isn’t good, but making everything about life easy isn’t good either.
@@jlehm Making things accessible is the bare minimum.
I’m pretty sure they added the first ramp, rode up it on a bike then said “yeah good enough lads”
Or building and/or fire codes prevented them from being able to make it longer due to the building predating the accessibility laws.
그건 아님
@@Deckape75 or they could've just built it cross-sectional so it cuts through stairs and become much less steep. But I guess that's too much job for "ehh fuck it, nobody gonna use it anyway"
I’m pretty sure they said , we can’t break the law by blocking the sidewalk with a nice smooth ramp so they built a legal steep one.
Law kills.
FTS
Seems more reasonable to me to assume at the end of the design meeting where the stairs were locked down, someone went 'Oh crap we need a ramp, but all the other building dimensions are already locked. Oh well, let's take a meter off the stairs and make it a ramp, done'
“Sir do you know how fast you were going?”
Underrated comment
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"Not fast enough!"
"and he was swallowed by the machine .... Never to be seen again"
lol
i laughed uncontrollably
Someone's got to feed the building. A hungry building is an angry building.
Bad ending
I immediately thought Chinese escalator when he got in that death box.
I’m imagining someone in a wheelchair using the first ramp to go down and rolling into traffic
Once you're in a wheelchair for life or a long time I'm sure they discover tips and tricks that help them avoid situations like that and also improve their quality of life..
@@myman8336 Yeah, no, a steep ramp is a steep ramp. If it's steep enough, you pick up too much speed and need distance at the bottom to stop. That's physics.
Also I'm a wheelchair user & have been for over 6 years. My doctor's clinic has an alternate entrance other than the lift, only it's up a super steep hill that I can't go up and if I go down, there's a real risk of running into traffic at the bottom because there's no stopping distance.
At least it would put them out of their misery
@@mockingjay478
Have you not noticed that the left side image is tilted to make the ramp look worse and more tilted than it really is?
The ramp isn't as bad as it looks, they tilted the image to make it look really steep.
You can't compare a 50 $ budget job to a 5000 $ one...the ramp on the left just needed to be longer and the problem would be greatly mitigated
You can probably add a zero to both numbers.
Dude its more like 50000 usd
Saw this and thought very similar lmao
the first ramp is probably 30000 the second 150000 or thereabout. I'm not even joking, I've seen small government projects costing incredible sums
Go to korea. It is much better than this
i feel like the second one is gonna stop functioning the moment it snows
Don't worry, it'll be broken long long before it snows.
Same thing with the elevators on the bridges, I've never seen a functioning one (though in Russia)
doesn't snow much in London, thankfully
@@pie_toner Same thing in Kazakhstan. Nothing works, not even the stairs.
And it’s gonna just stay under repair forever
I can't wait until we invent floating wheelchairs, Professor Xavier style.
Didn't he do that with his ability? I don't think his wheelchair just floated?
The image of leaf blowers on a wheel chair for a subarban lad his dad thought would help. Is a billion dollars. Thank you for this
It's not gonna happen in this lifetime. Even it if it will (which is impossible due to so many technical difficulties) it won't be wildly accesibile. At best a few hundred that costed dozens of thousands to make.
More like Wall-E style 😂 Everyone would be using those
Then everyone will break their own legs to get one
The “Universal” design seems everything but “Universal”
Exactly! Universal design would be having the entrance at ground height.
It is universal in the sense that everyone who can move across a flat surface can access it. Of course it would be easier to have a ground level entrance, however those are a little tricky to retrofit onto houses that don't have them already.
Universal design is a principle that refers to designs intended to benefit disabled people and increase accessibility, but that also happen to help non-disabled people. For example, a lift (or a properly designed ramp) could be used by people who have a stroller, too, even if it's designed for wheelchair use initially. That's "universal design." Hope that helps.
Bro even the universal one has marble or some high end stone cladding the steps versus the one with the ramp. Totally different budgets or affordability.
@@yesn95what about rainwater
That is why there's standards and guidelines to designing ramps especially for handicap use. Like, do the professionals in your place even bother?
You'd be amazed at the daft shit people design. I work in a hospital and they built a new wheelchair accessible toilet, loads of room inside, grab rails, all good... and a door too narrow to fit a wheelchair in.
I feel like most businesses/buildings think that you just need some form of ramp or they just have a guideline that it has to be accessible but can’t be fucked putting actual effort into it
None of them do. This is a worldwide problem. Majority of places in America don't even have ramps they have stairs lol
The one on the right literally looks like animation…uncanny
Yeah i was thinking the same thing
My brain could comprehend it more as a 3D render than reality.
@Pasta normally takes 43 and a half minutes lol
Or because the vid quality is shit
It's gotta be a proof of concept render, right? Stuff just doesn't move that fluidly
"Ramps are expensive!"
- Cave Johnson, Portal 2
I now expect to see some orange gel in front of the ramp.
And optional blue gel right on the ramp. Y'know if you're going to the 2nd floor you might as well just land there right away.
That does sound like him 😂
The second one reminded me of the machine they use to crush cars into cubes.
Great, then when the lift breaks down constantly, which it inevitably will, there won't even be a "hostile ramp" alternative to use. An actual ramp that's long enough is a much more reasonable solution.
As wheelchair human I agree
@@kaigreen7589 That sound like a sentence an alien would use to look human
@@sygtymatory6667 no
What a positive way to look at it.
@@sygtymatory6667 "as a perfectly nice normal fellow human I concur"
Wheelchair users having steep ass ramps made “specifically for them” should be idk… easier to get up for someone literally wheelchair-ridden
Yeah, the ADA caps ramp slope at 4.8°, this ramp is out of compliance.
@@oliviastratton2169 It probably isn't in the United States
@@pepperonish Oh, good point.
Just use the stairs and walk smh.
@@Banana-Boi wow, so hilarious!! 😐
“Core accepted, beginning Core Transfer”
Corrupted core, are you ready to start the procedure?
@@Subject97 What do you think?
@@finwik5448 interpreting vague answer as "yes"
I am a potato….
Never expected a Portal reference here! Great job - great laugh! Thanks mate :D
Whoever designed that wheelchair lift is a genius! It’s like something you’d see in a video game lol
I was "pushing" soooo hard trying to get him up that ramp
Me too, I even made a little grunt sound as he was trying to get up that last little bit, as if it were me doing the work and trying to get up there, lol
Oh my god same what is wrong with us hahaha
The second one looks like those hidden piston staircases that people make in minecraft
Could be where they got the idea.
"Hey ron is there always a pillar here?"
"Hey maybe you could throw something on top"
*"Great* *idea* *ron"*
"Hey Ron, why not throw your half empty coffee cup over the top?"
*5 seconds*
"Ron, are pillars supposed to scream?"
"Nice ron"
"What am I not supposed to sneeze"
As cool as the second one is, that's probably a rather expensive option. That said, the ramp in the first video is rather clearly not to code. The building was probably granted some exemption.
I don’t know why my f up brain thought, “what if instead of lifting up it just turns into stairs again” 😂
It could happen one wrong line of code since their is nothing physically blocking the stairs from going back in it would be terrible and one reason I don’t like the design
That’s messed up lol
I can imagine the soundscape.
@@thefinalcalamity3908 not true, the sides of the box are in the way
Idk why this comment made me laugh out loud
Just looking forward to the day when editing these sorts of videos along with this kind of music will be illegal
🤣🤣🤣
I can't tell whether you are leftwing or rightwing with this comment. Cause while the right is usually the one to complain about this, handicap rights tends to be a leftwing issue. (After all the right would be opposed to government regulations on these things since that's intrusive)
@@speedy01247 i wasn't trying to make a political statement. Just saying the music choice for the video was a bit too "early 2000s funny animal home video" for my type.
Its not fucking funny
@@speedy01247 how did you even get to that conclusion lol
@@speedy01247 what? Why were you even trying to figure it out?
The second looked like a secret agent type of stuff.
left video: "oh man, steep ramp, can you help me, mate?" "Oh, sure."
right video: "oops, sorry mate, power's out/lift's broken, you're out of luck"
"Okay so we put the disabled person in a box right"
Haaaaa, yes! What it didn’t show was the pit that opened up when the box was closed and discreetly disposed of the disabled.
@@davidnorwood5685 as we should. Most get suicidal before they accept the change after injury. We can free them from that by just dumping them into Hell. We’ll meet them there later
Bonus; The disabled don’t have to worry about pesky moral qualms like “Will I be punished for killing myself?”, you’re not doing it. We are. Enjoy Heaven, you beautiful creature :)
@Khaliil bin Ammar 😆
@@davidnorwood5685 I was fully expecting the stairs to slide back out after the walls raised.
Only to slowly crush the disabled person.
.
But I also kinda expected them to fall in a pit.
.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who felt this way xD
And then you release the gas 😈
The ramp is simply just too steep, stretch it out and you’re good
Facts
It would be smart if they had some pulley option to hold onto or attach to the wheel chair that would pull it up cheaper then a full lift and possibly easier to add on rather then. (Perhaps a towline or something attached to the railing that one can hold onto)
I think they just plastered a ramp where the stairs were, without actually testing it out first
That ramp doesn’t meet code anyway. Typically code is 1’ length per 1” of rise.
Yes, that's the point.
Imagine you're just walking down the stairs and someone hits the button
That is why a fence pops up blocking your path, you dum dum
you can't though - they don't function as stairs because of the gate at the top preventing that.
@@timeluster
The gate isn’t there the whole time. It slides up as the stairs start moving.
Weight activated switches are really simple technology, pretty sure a complicated design like this has at least two, one to prevent the stairs from retracting when someone is on them and one to have elevator wait until the passanger has entered.
The engineers who made the second one are on another level. That is awesome.
The ramp just needs a longer incline path. The one on the right probably breaks down a lot. Ramps don't break down
Yep...ADA compliant designs have specific requirements to prevent such things I learned recently; at least in the US.
also huge cost differences
That ain't no ramp
Its steps that turn into an elevator
Yeah it's 1 to 12 for handicapable ramps in Canada.
@@deadlyjaguar89 How can you be this stupid?
when the stairs start moving,, i laughed for some reason😭
If the cube closes from above as well and the elevator goes down, it would be a perfect kidnapping device.
People in wheelchairs are already in the perfect kidnapping device..
@@bigmeatswangin5837 fucking golden xD
@@bigmeatswangin5837 and easypeasy legit showed ur guyses comments to my whole house haha
I mean, how else do I get all the children in my basement?
Ugh i wish i could rewind these rather than rewatching
"That was the last time we saw Steven. 😭"
Can confirm
@@steveno7585 STEVEN DONT GO
I can still hear his voice
Yeah...
I could see that being broken all the time 😅
Totally right
I know a big city's library that bought an elevator. I've never seen it without an "out of order" sign. They ended up building a wooden ramp to put above the stairs. I forgot to mention: it was an indoor elevator, so no rain, snow, ice, leaves...
What do you call a broken escalator?
@@nathanjohnson7589 stairs?
Well.. i can see why the world has no progress... Its because of negative people like you who just rants things and never get things real done
Man the way those steps moved really made my eyes widen lol. That was honestly so cool
The one on the right looks over engineered, expensive and take a lot of time to build, there should to be a more efficient way.
Yeah, a lift next to the stairs. The point of a lift is that it already saves more space than a ramp.
Its not about efficiency, that lift is about maintaining the traditional aesthetic of the building. The owners don't want it to have a ramp because the ramp is "modern". They paid extra for the aesthetic.
@@MediumRareOpinions but it should be the exception not made into an example like this vid does
Not to mention high maintenance.
@@MediumRareOpinionsI remember when handicapped people back in my day summoned the power of god and parted the stairs to access a lift
"Universal Design"
I haven't seen this design anywhere other than this video
pls stop liking this comment i dont wanna get fact checked anymore
Universal design just means that it accommodates to disabilities, not that it's a common design
I encountered one this steep but maybe one step shorter here in Texas USA. Ironically it was at a disabilities conference on making things more accessible. There was a line of us wheelchair users around the entrance trying to get in. Sadly that was 3+ years ago and they've done nothing to make that building more accessible.
That's not what universal design means
When you try to look more inteligent than the person posting a comment, but you can't figure out the joke...
you could do a little research before you open your mouth
More people need to see this! Doing the minimum to people with disability is urgent.
I just imagined the metal box closing at the top and going down lol.
Holy crap, that has to be the best wheelchair lift I've ever seen!
This is one of those things that's gunna break in under a year an then never work again
There are many in London and have been there for years and continuing
Yea that doesn’t happen in London… they actually give a shit unlike most of the US.
@@thesunrisechick that's great, kinda surprised that like no one goes and vandalize it
Yeah rain and cold wont make it last. But there s always people to fix it.
@@thesunrisechick That's awesome. Wish we had the same care and maintenance for our stuff. Even the roads end up being worse than if they were just gravel. Goes to show that choosing the lowest bid for a job is one of the worst possible ways to choose who does the job
The easier solution is just to make the wheel chair ramp longer and less high or just lower the height of the ramp and just double side it like how stairs are in small rectangle spaces
i think you mean "make the slope less steep" easier explaination lol
@@zpumbaa i forgot the word steep so ye i was having hard time trying to remember the word xd
@@Avinomus relatable
or just ask one other person to help push you up
You can't just "lower the height". The only way to reduce the slope of the ramp is to increase the length of the ramp. I mean you could just make a smaller ramp but then it wouldn't reach the door.
I can see children and cats riding in the “happy music” one.
Cats?
Cats?
Cats?
Cats?
Cats?
The secound one looks like jail bit for ppl whos on wheelchair 💀
"Hostile design"
Expectation: *flaming death pit*
I bet the second video got your hopes up, didn't it?
Now that my daughter is wheelchair bound, I have found that most handicap accessible places are not truly accessible. The corners are too tight or too narrow. Many places have too steep an incline (though not as steep as this one) or have thresholds that are too high. I guess it looks good on paper!
Yep, I became an amputee a year ago and so many places that boast about being wheelchair accessible aren't really all that accessible...including my college. Half the time the electric door openers are broken, the ramps are too steep and narrow with nowhere to rest, bathrooms can't fit my wheelchair easily so I bump into the walls trying to get in and out, halls are too narrow to turn so I often scrape the walls, the classrooms that have auditorium seating only have one entrance with a small wheelchair accessible area at the top of stairs which is super dangerous if you misjudge you'll go straight down a flight of stairs and some classrooms have a step platform immediately going in so I have to do a bunny hop or leave my wheelchair there while someone else pulls it up the step. You have to hunt for the elevators and ramps and they are often hidden or a long ways away so it takes me several times longer distance to get somewhere than everyone else. Its ridiculous. I brought all these concerns up with Disability Services and they always pretend to be concerned/horrified but nothing ever gets done about it. I am guessing because they may be legally grandfathered in from having to comply with ADA laws because its a historical buidling...or they are wildly incompetent.
@@claritey does your wheelchair have a rachet that you can flip on and off? This would be very useful when going up hill. You don't need the slope to have a built in rest area.
@@danielch6662 Yes, I have brakes and do try to use them when I can. They help for the less steep ramps but not exactly safe for the steeper ones especially going downhill because its easy to tip forward. I have anti-tip guards to prevent me from going backwards but not forwards. Also, if you stop midway up a steep ramp its a lot harder to get the momentum to start going up again from a dead stop. If there are flat spots I can at least stop and rest. I have pretty good arm strength but several of the hills and ramps on my college I simply can't push myself up at all, someone has to push me. With the ramps if they have hand rails at least I can pull myself up but that doesn't work for hills.
Bathrooms don’t even have an emergency pull switch if someone falls and needs help…. Sometimes they’re barely accessible too
The first one looks like something out of a supervillain’s lair
Remember kids: they are supervillains BECAUSE they don’t follow universal design
Oh my goodness, I've never seen one before 😲 That is amazing 😀👏🏻
"He was never seen again as the floor opened beneath him dropping him into a human blender" i gotta add the dark humor
I laughed out loud.. that is my kind of thinking.. to see the crazy side of things.
I wanted to add something to this but I feel that would have been a little too dark. So I'm gonna leave it at this. :)
I thought they were gonna put a lid on it and lower it into an underground storage container for disabled people
@@ayafox58 i actually wanna hear what you wanted to say
@@thevoid4393 Well you mentioned the human blender part and I thought "well yeah I always blend my vegetables don't you?"
Imagine having 4 people on a wheel chair, they would probably prefer going on a slightly longer ramp rather than waiting 15 minute for this thing.
That is ofcourse ignoring the mechanical and electrical challenges this thing on the right have.
Agreed, a proper ramp is actually universal design since it's not necessarily just for people with disabilities. The elevator here really isn't an example of universal design, though that's not always a bad thing. Braille isn't universal design, but it still helps a lot of people.
The Wikipedia page for universal design currently calls out electric bus lifts as not being universal design as compared to kneeling busses which are universal.
Is this a standard wheelchair? Because I doubt a wheelchair capable of holding 4 people would fit on the lift, or ramp.
Joking aside; yeah, ramps don't really break down.
Although I agree that this video is pure bullshit
I must say it's very unlikely that 4 people on wheel chairs will go to the same place at the same time
imagine having 20 people on foor able to climb the stairs, they would probably prefer just using the stairs of the building than waiting for the elevator. good reason to not build elevators. why normal elevators are working prefectly fine, and no issues to build and maintain them but this is a issue ? cause us normal people like to use those, and us normal people matter more. this is just a lazy excuse
Guy in second screen.
"BLIMEY! Some lil' braat hit tha cellar booton."
Imagine the machine gets stuck and you find a guy on a wheelchair stuck in a box
i’ve been in a wheelchair for most of my life (born with a genetic disorder affecting my muscles) and it’s blatantly obvious that the people who implement the “hostile design” like shown in the video, have clearly never used a wheelchair or had to help someone in a wheelchair. even in my power chair, i would feel uncomfortable using that ramp. no railings on one side, way too steep, probably really slick when wet. it’s just dangerous. there’s no way it meets code.
accessibility is a huge issue around the world, even in highly developed countries such as the UK or US. in the US, we have the ADA but it basically only applies to businesses and public places that are going to remodel. if they aren’t going to remodel, they don’t have to make the building wheelchair accessible because they are “grandfathered in.”
unless someone has lived it, they just don’t care.
It's not their responsibility to care.
These "hostile designs" are actually like-responses to "hostile demands".
@@operator8014 how is requesting safe access to a public building or business a “hostile demand”? disabled people have a right to access public places safely.
@@caitlinbrowniee They can't answer you. They're too terminally online to think about a world where we might give disabled people the basic modicum of respect.
I might have a degenerative muscle disorder, but if someone said that to me in person there'd be some *fierce words*, if you catch my meaning.
@@ashlet6035 how someone can think that basic, safe access is a “hostile demand” is beyond me. even at 26 years old, it still shocks me how little some people care about disabled people. they seem to forget that disabled is the only minority that ANYONE can become a part of at ANY TIME.
Don’t wanna know how often that lift breaks though. That’s a lot of moving parts 😓
Universal: literal Hogwarts stairs
that's so cool!! I wish I saw more disability friendly architecture where I live
I was expecting the second one where the top just closes and goes underground.
The ramps slope on the left is actually quite steep, making it harder to climb. If it was a less steep slope, it would be easier and much less challenging.
Your comment was basically useless
no shit sherlock
When the machine gone error, he can't escape, and.....
Suddenly he can climb
It turn to crush machine
@@mohdizwan966 ...cursed xina
He stuck at cube and newer came back at home.
Loss of electricity and a fire
I was surprised to see so many people who didnt like the 2nd design. Then I saw it was the engineering and architecture channel... lol
Most places just assume people in wheelchairs will always have someone with them to assist, which is wrong
Even with assistance that left one looks impossible it atleast a 30 degree angle
Damm I had two thoughts at the same time.
"What a wonderful thing for- Oi wtf, hell no, that's a lot of money, they expect that in every building? oh heeell no my country barely can pay for basics."
The guy who made the ramp on the left didn’t have wheelchairs in mind. That was thinly guised, they were thinking about skateboards.
I’m serious, I bet that’s what they were thinking.
All the while I thought they were for trolleys and wheel luggages but even if so still too inclined though. Imagine pushing tonnes of stock through that.
The universal design one is so cool, but it does look fairly elaborate. That makes me worry it might be likely to break down more often.
Alternative title:
“Crappy design and thousands of dollars design”
It isn’t hostile. It’s just the boobs didn’t build it right with the correct length and angle. But the other one is cool because it saves up space and can go back to steps when traffic is heavy while giving disabled individuals a more easy access
I agree it's out of compliance with ADA
There's not really any way to tell for sure. There are ways in which businesses try to keep disabled people out though, including intentionally designing things to look accessible while actually being entirely unhelpful.
@@some-one-else That is what’s known as illegal, and the Fire Marshall would shut your business down faster than you can say “wait, we don’t call them handicapped anymore???”
@@eyespy3001 not at all. Just take a look at how the system is set up in a “progressive” nation like Canada on a regional level. Aesthetic, especially the idealized Victorian era, is more important than accessibility according to the current Ontario provincial government. Back alley ramps, or simple exceptions, are the solutions they came up with for those “protected buildings”.
@@ronpilchowski9898 the Americans with Disabilities Act doesn't exist in the UK, you do know that, right?
Long, gradually-inclined ramps are a problem too, if they have no established place to 'rest'. Going up hill is fatiguing, and down hill can also test strength.
What is the median solution.
@@sandra-jones my country requires accessible ramps to have a 1200mm landing every 750mm of rise. There's also minimum widths, maximum angles, minimum edge upstands, non-slip surface requirements, etc.
Any ramp not meeting the standard fails, and no signoff is given.
@@Asethet thanks for the information.
shouldn't tha fatigue be on the arms? you can use just your palms for the wheels. you should still be able to use your fingers right?
@@Asethet
Exactly. Landings are the answer, a given place to rest.
I was cheering on the dude om the left I didn't know ramps could be that difficult to use hopefully engineers see this and never make one that steep again
Ramps that steep actually violate ADA standards which cap slope at 4.8°.
The people who made it either did no research, or didn't care to follow the rules and hoped nobody sued them.
I can’t explain why seeing this lift in London touched me so much but it actually brought tears to eyes.
because the amount of money spent
"Universal Design"
"These *London* Wheelchair lifts amaze me!"
Is this sarcasm or do you believe that's real
@@futureanimatoreyt8647 Is this sarcasm or do you believe that he says is real
do you know what universal design means or is this a joke?
just in case, universal design means accessible for everyone. it doesn’t mean common.
@@Mahmad_2009 it's not a sarcasm
Legend says he was still in there
imagine the back wall goes up, and the stairs start slowing going forwards again... a real life crusher with no way of jumping out. my mind is a dark place.
A dark place!?? Not at all!!! I say things like that all the time about different things I will notice and people always say I'm negative. I say I am a realist. That situation could happen for real if this contraption existed all over the world and people that think like you are vital to stuff like this to point out to the other guys that are happy and positive and the world is sooo wonderful type thinkers that they just might have made a human compactor and should put in some fail-safes so that would not become a real life situation!! Keep it real yo!
Incredible work from the London building
Is it bad that when the back screen raised up, I half expected the elevator to just lower into the pavement and the stairs to slide back in place?
I mean it's no problem, if there IS no problem right?
Bro this is the most extreme I've seen in both videos. That ramp is a few degrees away from being classified as a tilted wall.
That elevator is so excessive, it optimizes many parameters: it's athstetic, doesn't take anymore space than the stairs, electrically powered and hidden when not in use. The issue is that optimizing all these parameters occurs at extreme cost and is very unrealistic for 95% of cases. Realistically, a ramp with a less steep gradient or an elevator that isn't retractable/hidden would be a better choice. The additional costs for this elevator can only be implemented by wealthy corporations or... All of us (our tax dollars). Do you want a 200k giga elevator or 4k ramp for your taxes to be spent on?
Practicality aside, it looks Uber awesome
More like, cheapest and laziest vs. by-far, most expensive and luxurious. There is, in fact, a middle ground.
Middle ground would still exclude people with muscle degeneration who don't have access to or can not afford motorized wheelchairs
@@benjaminlamothe2093 such a person can’t use this elevator either. 😂
@@sofamiller7133 Hi, I have muscular dystrophy. I can use the elevator on the right with ease. The ramp on the left and the stairs would be a challenge on a rough day. Hope this helps.
@@sofamiller7133 what’s your logic in saying that people with degenerative muscle disorders can’t use the elevator? i have very severe muscular dystrophy and although i have a power wheelchair, i’d still be able to use the elevator a lot more safely and comfortably than the ramp on the left.
@@caitlinbrowniee so you’d still struggle to use it? Yeah. 😂
Maannn they really did good work. ❤️
First one: lasts 30 years
Second one: Broken the first week and takes weeks to get fixed
The first one also looks like its out of ADA compliance due to its slope being too steep.
I agree over-engineering everything isn't the answer, but that ramp is still bad.
The "universal" design is cool if the builders can afford it. But I don't think ramps are inherently "hostile". This one was hostile because it was ridiculously steep.
The ADA caps ramp slope at 1:12 (4.8°). This ramp is clearly out of compliance.
And usually you build a handicap ramp to 1:16, which is even shallower than code requires.
And then,
suddenly the london guy got trapped in that where he was being transferred to a mysterious room with 7 other random people, with an instruction simply saying,
Welcome to the Minos' Escape Room.
《World of Drama》
Omg 😂😂😂
I was thinking same.
There's a _rail_ beside the "hostile design" ramp.
This is giving me infomercial vibes.
"How fake does the universal design have to be" youtuber: "yes"
How is it fake? It’s obviously real dumbass
What do u mean by fake?
@@randomperson4198 he is an idiot
@@randomperson4198 not all places can afford to spend so much on broken legged people
@@ShrimpFry_Cute u always could just make the ram much more longer and less steeper u know?
Can you imagine the horror if the electric grid failed when the steel doors closed around him.?
It *should* fail in an order (close the gate at the top, lower the lift, drop the steel doors, **but do not extend the stairs**), and it would be hoped that the lift has enough power storage to do this gracefully.
A lot of faith put into that metal coffin. If it malfunctions while he’s boxed in and the stairs come back out :o
Looks like someone had fun with redstone and pistons. Nice job!
Damn I can't imagine the world where the disabled accessibility ramp costs more than the damn building attached to.
Did you also imagine the price of both the building and the elevator or do you have any data to backup your stupid comment?
So instead of a longer ramp, build a $30,000 outdoor elevator that will be broken half the time and also looks really dangerous.
LoL, you think it's easy to ride wheelchair on longer incline ramp ? 😂 It just makes you tired because of its length and incline.
@@lonewolfe2502 All I'm saying is Have a Friend.
@@lonewolfe2502 welp you should work on your arms more seems like daily wheel-chair pushing aint enought. and most wheel-chair ppl will have someone to aid them. it's only the 1 or 2 stubborn old ppl who demand they go for themselves or the ones with bitch children who don't want to take care of their parents, aunt or uncle.
@@Comfy_Bed I think the same engineering shown in this video could be made cheaper. You don't need to make the fancy structure that converts from stair to lift. You just have to make the structure that lifts up. You have to increase the length of the ramp to decrease the angle of the slope. So you still have to use too much energy to climb. & Why should any disabled person should expect for someone's help. We should make things easier for them. So they don't have to take help from anybody.
Broken half the time? Man the crappy life we live in America really has us seeing the worst of everything
That's like saying bicycle is a hostile design for travelling 8000 miles while airplane is universal design.
-honey I'm going to get the bread!
-you're not using your bike?!
-nah, too hard. I'll take the plane.
WoW..at first I was confused.. like, were they comparing two variations on 'bad design'? But then the kooky whistling started and I was just,
"Whoa, that's *AWESOME"* 💯🥰
ここまで金かけずになんとかする方法を発明して欲しい。
That universal design shall be available for every building in 2050....
By then cars will be flying
No, but by then we'll be ecologically doomed.
Sure and by 2050 I’ll have superpowers
hmm the lift seems almost embarassing, drawing so much attention to yourself. what about ramps that are not steep? those are probably the best option
That steep ass ramp was just thrown in because the builders forgot to make a better one. Reminds me of when I used to play the Sims all the time and I forgot to add a bathroom, so I would just cut a 2×2 chunk out of the living room and call it a day