Greetings from 🇫🇮 I work with this homelessness program and I want to say that when a person finally gets that little home of his own, he doesn't want to lose it, which contributes to rehabilitation. They go to rehab, rehabilitative work, go to school and even get a job. I'm really proud of them. They take life into their own hands again.
You can judge a society by how it takes care of its weakest people. Finland shows a remarkable high moral ethics, that should be aspirational. Government is for the people, and Finland sets an example of that.
I am in Oregon, USA. I was homeless and my cousin took me in and gave me a spot to park my old camper. Then he helped me find a better rig. Then his brother gave me a "permanent" spot to park and minimal electricity. I was able to get the rest I needed and a safe place from which to jump back into society. I am now a school bus driver which I love. I am getting stronger and healing from long-term disabilities. I love my life now!!!
I'm proud of you. That might not mean much coming from a stranger, but I wanted to put it out there in case you needed to see that someone appreciates your hard work.
I lost my job and the next day the guy I was renting a room from (no kitchen, just a room and a bathroom) told me he needed the room back. I called California state for assistance and the woman on the phone belittled me for not being able to find another place to live. It was difficult to get a hold of a real person and when I did the first time, they hung up on me when I asked a question. I got the hell out of that State and moved to Washington state because I have family that was willing to help me. I'm still struggling but if it weren't for family and the small amount of SNAP i get from the state, I would also be on the streets. Hats off to you Finland for taking care of citizens when they fall on hard times. THAT is what a government should be doing.
@@suzanneke it should be, but when you have psychopaths and sociopaths in positions of power, that energy shifts the common practice and thinking of those who follow it.
I was homeless for years. I couldn't stop doing drugs. I didn't want to live. I got an apartment through government housing and I immediately stopped doing drugs. I smoke pot but it's legal here in Arizona. My life has improved incredibly. I have started making TH-cam videos, singing and playing the guitar again, and I get to decorate it however I want. It's my sanctuary. For years I went in and out of rehabs, mental hospitals, halfway houses, and sleeping on the ground. And the other thing is the government is spending WAY less money on me because I'm not constantly in detox and rehab on their dime. Great video topic! Finland looks amazing.
I’ve experienced homelessness first hand in and with several friends.Housing first is essential to have any chance of getting your life back together. When your homeless your in survival mode. All day, everyday, your focused on finding the necessities, staying out of bad weather, making sure all you own isn’t taken or trashed. There is no true privacy, nowhere to safely let your guard down. Your shut off from society, shunned and looked down upon. All that does is mess with your mental health. Expecting people to climb up from that is absurd, and for some, simply insurmountable. I feel our society runs on fault, shame, and blame instead of compassion for the situation and integrated solutions that solve problems. With the wealth and availability of so many abandoned buildings all across the US, there is no excuse for the crisis we are now in. I believe the e only way we can truly effect change is to create robust community organizations that work together and start funding them at the town level. This will not come from Washington.
Because American Government politicians are greedy/they rather stuff their Bank account's than solve American homeless problems,The American Government have little interest in America's healthcare, America's infrastructure,America's college debt and America's homeless But War's destroying Humanity America's Government invest BILLION'S UPON BILLION'S OF America Taxpayer's MONEY(THAT'S WHY America HOMELESS PROBLEMS WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY)
Sadly much of the US homelessness could be fixed. There are tons of apts, offices & other empty buildings that could be transformed but they are owned by the wealthy & big business. They get huge tax breaks for depreciation, maintenance & financing. But, on top of that, they get tax breaks when the bldg are empty & they aren't rented. Another way the wealthy are manipulating our govt in their favor.
The no true privacy thing has been grinding me lately. I'm naturally introverted and need space to recharge. Being stared at, glared at, looked at over my shoulder at any given time of day or night is really draining.
The wounded soul needs compassion and love and people who care. It also needs, in many cases, a chance to learn how to take care of themselves, a chance to grow up in a normal way and not in the dysfunctional way that wounded their soul. Yay, Finland, for giving these people love and care and for being a faithful part of their lives. Bravo! Of course your system works!
Because American Government politicians are greedy/they rather stuff their Bank account's than solve American homeless problems,The American Government have little interest in America's healthcare, America's infrastructure,America's college debt and America's homeless But War's destroying Humanity America's Government invest BILLION'S UPON BILLION'S OF America Taxpayer's MONEY(THAT'S WHY America HOMELESS PROBLEMS WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY)
HOUSING FIRST Works for so many reasons... The Biggest reason is it gives PEOPLE who have No Safety or Stability in their lives... SAFETY and STABILITY... YOU Can NOT FIX HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT HOUSING ... FOOD, CLOTHING & SHELTER... THESE ARE THE BASICS of LIFE FOLKS... ALWAYS HAS BEEN and ALWAYS WILL BE. It doesn't take Rocket Science or a frickin' Phd to figure that out ... If ELON had put his BILLIONS towards doing THIS for humanity instead of Twitter ... We would ALL be well on our way to a 100% Viable Global 🌍 Solution to issues like this by now... Ya know?
I've lived in Finland for years as an expat student. I can definitely confirm that I never saw a single homeless person and have been all over Finland from Lapland all the way down to Helsinki.
I live in Japan and I haven't seen anyone homeless yet either. But it's interesting to me that he says Japanese low homelessness rates are questionable. I wonder why he didn't even give details as to why.
I live in Finland and we do have some homeless people. You can't always tell who's homeless by the way they look. They have access to shower and laundry. You might be able to tell by the bags they carry with them. Some camp in the woods during summer and they prefer to keep their tent in a place, that is not easily found by outsiders. During winter, they usually need to keep walking through the night to survive. I've visited Japan a few times and seen homeless people there, too.
@@riittap9121 Yup. I actually was officially homeless for a whole year. From autumn to fall I lived in my van. In winter I moved between my friends paying them some little sum for a place to stay. But this homelesness was by the choice a social experiment for myself kind of and it worked up fine. Although whole time I knew I have a choice to move in rental apartment if I feel so, I still got a wholesome experience as a "nomad". It was nice to test the challenge of not having a home to go and I learned alot from myself, most important thing was that I get to know my limits and weaknesses.
The question is how to pay for it. I will bet if they started with 20 thousand homeless they have multiple times that amount supported at taxpayer expense now. Also if borders are open then they are saying anyone globally can come and be supported for life at taxpayer expense
This makes a good point. A lot of homeless crazies and drug addicts are schizophrenic. The thing a schizophrenic needs most in order to get better is stability. A warm dry place to sleep that you won't get kicked out of is the most important part of stability.
Heck just not getting enough sleep at night can have a shocking effect on even a person without mental problems. I work overnight and on my Monday by the time I finish and get home I will have been up 25 hours and I'm starting to see things. Not to bad but if say a plastic bag moves I may think it's a critter. If someone wasn't getting enough sleep every night, I can easily imagine it getting really bad!
Mental disease is a myth. The people you're speaking about may be eccentric, but it's not that they are incapable of reason/can't be negotiated with. I get so sick of people using bullshit mental health concepts to convey their judgements of other people, whether it be complete strangers or close friends. People need to stop deferring their good judgement to the cult of psychiatry (which is nothing more then an source for excuses by government and others to limit certain persons' liberty... or worse, such as lobotomy). It's so f*cking lazy and beyond ignorant.
I’m an educator and have also done research on best practices around the world and Finland has also use amazing ingenuity to be a leader in student success and literacy. Maybe I’ll move to Finland someday.
I was homeless for a number of years. One thing that made it hard was finding a stable job I could work being fat and having mental issues but also finding a cheap place to live. I tried getting an education and getting a degree in IT but that did not work out. What did work was working at a small call center then working my way up to data input. After the company got shutdown I found a job as a credit card processor for a bank working from home. All that time I had found a very small, very cheap apartment that gave me privacy and a place to decompress. I have autism and loud noises set me off. I have never let anyone else into my apartment, it is MINE!!!! It is not for anyone else, it is the one place i do not need to be guarded about. It is a little dirty, a little messy but it is the one place I can be myself without someone else judging me. I was lucky, I never lived rough. I lived in a homeless shelter for a couple of years working there while trying to get things straight. Most are not. The homeless need a secure place and the help and the will to get off the streets. Mental health and drugs take there toll and most homeless will never get off the streets cause they are so far into drugs or alcohol and mental issues they will not or cannot seek the help they need. Housing first sounds like a better idea and would of made things much easier for me. I hope other countries and cites try this, it would make things better.
Good on you for surviving such difficult circumstances. I hope that you go from strength to strength and have a life that you can enjoy and where you can stay well.
How do you think your earlier life would have played out if you had access to psychiatric care to help you manage your mental issues? It seems like a lot of people get screwed just because they can't afford the mental care or/and medicines they need.
I lived with different friends for a few years (on the floor, on a couch, a shared room, and at a brief time, even my own private room for free). It wasn't until I found my own place did I begin thriving. Back then cell phones were not as common as they are now-- giving friends phone numbers for employers to call me was an experience. Finding a job was easier when you have stability. Having a steady place to call home is spot on. Kudos to Finland for their success and what they want to achieve! The ability to provide for individuals with nuanced and complex needs takes a lot of work, time and understanding that cannot be overly simplified. Unfortunately, laws and policies often miss this crucial aspect. "You don't need to first turn homeless people into model citizens (5:10)" is spot on. Different ideologies are another. Thank you for highlighting this!
There should be an accommodation/allowance for ppl without houses bc a cell phone can be used instead and or a po box. Ppl could also charge their phones mostly in libraries or free service phone 'booths' or welfare centres etc. With this ability to receive notifications and other correspondence there should be no need to deny payments or incarcerate ppl. But this accomm. I think, still has not been executed by some countries etc for surmountable reasons.
I remember in 2007 when I was working in real estate seeing people buy homes new from builders with the intention of selling before close of escrow to a new buyer for profit. The crash was so brutal and fast that I remember seeing a lot of these units foreclosed on with the builder plastic still on the carpet.
I’ve been diligently working, saving and contributing towards early retirement and financial freedom, but since covid outbreak, the economy so far has caused my portfolio to underperform, do I keep contributing to my 401k or look at alternative sectors to meet my goals?
@@izagdlife Consider investing in stocks especially during a recession . While recessions can be tough, they can also offer good chances to buy low and sell high in the markets if you're cautious. Just remember, this is not financial advice, but it's a good time to think about buying stocks since having cash on hand isn't always the best option.
@@izagdlife Moving your money from the housing market to financial markets or gold due to high mortgage rates and tough guidelines. Home prices may need to drop significantly before things stabilise. Seeking advice from a financial advisor who understands the market could be helpful in making the right decisions.
@@charlotterayeee How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.
@@izagdlife *Mr Gary Mason Brooks* is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I was in Finland a month ago compared to the rest of the Europe. I was surprised at how clean and happy it was over there. I would move there if I could
@@OmmerSyssel Yeah because when you rely on the United States to fight china and russia and north korea, all the money you would spend on military can go to your people instead. Must be nice. Russia will invade soon. And Finland along with every other 'happy' nation will be begging for arms from the United States.
In several states, there have been people who have tried to set up 'tiny houses' that are basically 1 room with an attached bathroom. They make a small community of them of like 15 to 20 homes, and to get into one, a person has to follow rules, like keeping it clean, and keeping the area around the home clean and work with the organizers in getting job, or on social security or disability if they need it. However....a number of these places were told to stop...because the houses were not big enough, that a house needed x number of square feet and the city or state threatened to and has demolished these sites. These are nice homes, with heat, air conditioning, a small kitchenette, a bed, with room for a recliner and a t.v. But it's not big enough to be humane living conditions according to the laws. I look at these tiny homes and how nice they are, and I can't believe the law makers don't change the rules rather than force those folks back onto the street to live under a cardboard box.
The world that seems wanted is the good the bad and the ugly all living amongst one another . Side by side . No one is looking to improve anything , just let it fall apart . That's my opinion
@@melindasmith3713 When it falls apart, the bad will make it hell for the good. And that's not the way to go. I don't think everyone is entitled to equal living conditions. If someone goes out and works hard and gets rich, or even is just lucky to be born rich...that's fine with me. They get their mansion. But if someone else is born poor, or is just lazy and doesn't want to better their selves, then I have no problem with them living in a small home/apartment, even if it's subsidized by society. But those folks should not expect to live in fancy places. I think capitalism works, but that there is also room inside of that for some social help beyond tossing food stamps at people. Housing should be a priority...but those getting it, should tow the line too and at least do the minimum in keeping the place clean. Those that can't...maybe they should be warehoused in shelters or if they are truly mentally ill, be in a safe environment with help to try to get them to function in society again, if at all possible. The USA is one of the richest countries in the world, and if it wasn't for so much government waste of money, we could easily take care of those in our society who struggle to care for their selves. Even if only one or two out of ten manage from that boost in help, and are able to go get jobs and improve their own lives, it would be worth it. But those who can't, at least won't have to live in squalor and make our cities ugly with their tent cities lining our streets and filling up parks meant for families to have picnics in.
The USA is no longer the richest nation in the world. We have over 3 trillion dollars in debt not counting interest. We have dropped to being the 2nd producer of goods because our politicians took big business money and removed import tax, pay companies to move outside US, and hire that countries $2 per hour nationals over US $15 per hour. There are issues at play but too many to explain here. Some are human caused,some are the way of technology.
Finland also changed their schools from low performing by doing what seemed a backwards approach. I am impressed with the country. They seem to realize ... doing the same thing that doesn't work... means you need to try something that is really different.
I love how complainers would rather have homeless sleep in every alley, making their mental issues worse and the streets way less liveable than house them. Even superficially, selfishly it makes sense for the government to spend my taxes to actually clean up the streets. No amount of anti-homeless benches would be able to keep our public spaces free from homeless as much as actually housing them
@@Redfizh yeah, I see those interviews too, it's wild to me. What's wild also is that they're told that any social services means communism all the way, when in reality private healthcare is still always offered to those who want to pay for it
In Finland you have something called winter. Look at San Francisco. They spend massive amounts on providing "housing" while ignoring the drug and mental issues and it just swamps them with more homeless not less
@@jerrymiller9039 that is a good point, drugs are extremely rare in Finland. Alcohol is the main drug (after coffee). Most of the issues in any society is solved by providing a good start early in life. System where people are hand held guided into a good life and never let them fall in the first place. In Finland, giving a house is usually not needed as unemployment benefit is enough for a rent and every unemployed is guided to work or education, that is also free. One would truly have to seek for a trouble to be in trouble. 90% of people in trouble are lost immigrants, who cant speak english or finnish. These are also only form of beggars we have. You can find at least 2 in central trainstation of Helsinki.
I work in social services to house homeless people in northern California. We follow the Housing First model but most of us know that it's less effective without extra funding for follow-up services. Most of our successes involve building relations with landlords and offering things like higher security deposits. There are some major successes in reducing homelessness in California, but it varies wildly by county because federal and state funding is county-based and some counties are frankly more hostile to the homeless than others.
Canada has embraced the concept of Housing First, but neglected to actually create provide housing units…so homelessness continues to grow. We have a federal government that “talks the talk”, throws money around which only wealth developers can access, and thinks they done something fantastic for our Country. Kudos Finland!
In other words they created the problem and now pay themselves to keep it going. Then they play smoke and mirrors lying about it and making bank. Another day, another dollar. They are turning the screws on us harder and faster as we speak.
Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada has resolved their homeless problems years ago. Their homeless people are housed immediately, given health care, job and education assistance in the main town areas. (Many homeless people have jobs just not shelter) Putting them in out of the way areas of the community does not help them. Nowadays, a homeless person/family in Medicine Hat are sorted in ten hours or so. Big plus - cost to the township of properly dealing with this situation has dropped by half compared to band aid help that generally exists.
Sorry Sarah. Wish it were true. Not even close. I was a cop in Winnipeg and spent most of my 35 years in the downtown, my last 5 on the beat in an area that is ground zero for homelessness, crime, addiction, mental health issues. It's gotten worse. And I'm also in touch with colleague in other major Canadian centre's. It's only "better" in the minds of those who ignore the reality and always think they know best, and who are all too often self serving. The underlying problems continue to fraught with truths that are ignored, and everyone continues to dance around. Kudos to the Fins, but their society (as noted in the video) has crucial differences, many that are the envy of other societies. But you just can't put a template on the problems elsewhere. It will be a process, with hard choices, but these cost popularity, and so costs votes, so nothing much but lip service happens, however it does continue to be its own growing industry.
Finland currently has the strictest abortion laws in the Nordic region, which is protecting their unborn citizens (the most vulnerable population). That changes in September 2023. Their decent society is faltering.
@@greenteabear-fb7st I come from Christian family. And people who have a child when they are young teenmoms are looked down upon and the whole family gets ashamed in churches. Because of this secret abortions is skyhigh in Christian Community. Nobody talks about it, while Atheists accept their child moms and support them growing up the kids. Did you knew this? Did you knew the most abortions are actually done by Christians in USA secretly ? Because of shame?
@@greenteabear-fb7st The Marin government (who introduced the relaxation of the abortion laws, along with allowing mass migration leading to high crime rates) has been ousted, the Finns party, the right wing coalition and the Finnish Christian party will now be in control and they have very strong stances on these positions, so there is a good chance that those laws will not take place, along with much strichter laws for migrant crimes. We hope to see Finland retain it's name as the safest, highly homogeneous country in Europe.
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Public housing was a normal thing in developed nations in the post-war era (US may be an exception as they often are). It was useful for more than just 'the homeless' because it also prevented many poor and working class citizens from ever _becoming_ homeless. We sort of forgot it was something we can do. This odd notion that public works are somehow 'artificial' while private ones are natural gets in the way of that.
Their personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't forget that part. Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9% Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that. Finland is going broke. Gee... yeah lets run things like them, they're literally going broke. Because at the end of the day, someone still has to PAY for it all, and they just ran out. Is that how "developed nations" operate? Funny...
Is that 57% figure the _top_ marginal income tax rate in a progressive income tax scale, or is it the only rate? I ask because the top rate, only paid by some and only on part of their income, is often confused for income tax as a whole. You notice, though, I was not talking about Finland now, but many developed nations in the recent past, including my own. Some public housing was the norm, accepted cross the political spectrum, and existed comfortably alongside robust private enterprise. Maybe Finland go too far, but these are not either-or questions, and you can scale things according to your own priorities in a mixed economy. Like the author says, despite his narrative, this is not a one-size-fits-all scenario.
@@syberphish Yet Finnish people aren't dying and I don't see news articles talking about the country of Finland going to hell in a handbasket. So despite your random stats, Finland is doing fine.
@@MrBrock314 I didn't say they were dying in the streets, I said they have an uncertain economic future and their outlook isn't as rosy as everyone would suggest. Further, they restrict entry to only those healthy and capable of working or benefiting their country. People want us to be like them without that part, but that part is crucial to affording the social systems.
Many of us grew up in public housing…our parents were low income workers were put on a rent buy scheme, it allowed some to work there way up in life, aventurely move on & up in life, others stayed proud staying in there homes.
Other countries still PROVIDE housing anyway, just in a form JAILS, which should be even more costly if you consider all the expenses associated with it. Also in Fin model the streets are safer and at least some people have a proper chance to get back on track as well, which is a win-win for everyone.
Jails and prisons are actually obscenely expensive... Why not just a plain old sewage hole in the ground that well fenced off?.... J/K But they really need to look at the costs there, surely it doesn't have to be that expensive..
About 20 years ago I was a prison librarian in a state prison. Cost $30,000 a year per inmate. Yeah, I think there's probably cheaper alternatves. Although one of the things I was told during training is that we (society) see prisons as a final "solution". Prisons MUST take whoever they're sent.
Jails can institutionalize people against their will to medicine and treatment and stop them from making bad choices. But in housing first, all of it is voluntary and they can make decisions that’s horrible but legal
Never forget how much the rich and powerful constantly play us against each other to maintain their structure. This video is proof that there are better alternatives easily available, if we can stop being constantly distracted and misled.
The funny thing is "housing first" has been what the us is doing. The part that is present is the supportive services piece. That is where we are failing miserably. I live in CA in a project that is supposed to provide support. I pulled the contracts and found over 1.1 million in misappropriated funds and NO ONE GIVES A DAMN! This issue is NOT if there are funds. The issue is there is NO enforcement and this demographic has no legal voice. The homeless are easy scapegoats! So, those charged with assisting have no real incentive for clients to truly heal. It is a joke!
you can only shake your head at the level of denial that some people have. The only way they can rationalize their pathetic life is to convince themselves that it's someone else's fault. Listen Hammock, rich people and everyone else for that matter are busy with their own lives, and no one else really gives a sh*t about you, outside of a few family and friends. That's the harsh reality that everybody learns on their journey through life, and some people respond to the challenge, and others spend their lives saying woe is me.
@@daleviker5884 " rich people and everyone else for that matter are busy with their own lives, and no one else really gives a sh*t about you" That is kind of the point...
@@jenkem4464 No, that's not the point. Hammock said, "constantly play us against each other to maintain their structure.", which is not equal to apathy towards others. Jesus, read before posting.
I should have clarified. In context of homelessness, inequality, the current vulture capitalist feudal system we live in the point is the rich don't give a F, correct.
Yep, I have been sort of homeless, but had a little caravan that I could live in. It was difficult because you can’t just find a place to put the caravan and stay there. Rules meant that I had to be constantly on the move towing and lots of other things are then difficult. But I was warm and dry and happy. If I was properly homeless, on the streets, you’re damn right I’d be drinking or taking drugs or anything else I could do to make life more bearable. I’ve never been a drug taker or drinker. Being homeless would change that I’m sure. Expecting people to get clean from drugs, even when they literally can’t get their body clean, is totally arse first in my mind
Quite right. Most addicts have houses and can barely function with them. Without the house, virtually no chance to do so. A lot of people complain about "not sleeping in my bed tonight". Well, imagine that problem every day for eternity. Then, think about the last time the house was too cold or too warm and multiply that by a factor of 100 and add that in for eternity. You ever tried to do work at 0 degrees Celsius without proper outerwear or food while coming down from a high? No - it's impossible as you're too busy shivering and being hungry and having psychological/physiological issues from the drugs. All your thoughts are directed to those basic needs. Once your basic needs are met, then you can consider doing things like contributing to society but it's not going to happen the other way around as a rule.
@@stevedavis6879 oh, I loved it. In fact I’ve been living in an ordinary house for a couple of years and I’m now thinking about going back to live in my caravan. It has cooking fasciities, it was warm and it has a loo and a proper shower, all in a 6’ 6” x 12’ space - everything I need and no excess, brilliant
@@clareshaughnessy2745 haha brilliant . I'm here in the uk , and homeless is very bad just like anywhere else . All I can say is do what you think and feels right for you .👌
@@stevedavis6879 yeah, I don’t think it’s for everyone. Lots of people like more space or have too much stuff. You have to be incredibly strict about not having anything extraneous to just exactly as much stuff as you need. It just really suits me
@hurri7720 and please vote to stop immigration so we can at least have our Nordic culture preserved. I believe all cultures should be saved, not forced to coexist
@@astra6712 They are doing great. And welfare suckers are doing great. But as a person who works hard and pays a ton of taxes I get the same level, or probably even less attention and services from the county. Because I'm "not poor enough". That's fine if you like some sort of not failed communism. I guess it works as long as the country is rich.
It works because their population is homogeneous. Almost 95% are White European Fins. It will not work in the US as certain race that makes up 15% of the population commits half the crime and other issues.
There will always be people in our society that will need help. In some cases, the help allows them to become productive citizens, while others will need support all their lives. But productive or not, they are human beings and we have an obligation to care for them.
@@hdjwkrbrnflfnfbrjrmd There will be an eventuality where you will, in fact, need help. If you maintain this stance by then, don't say you weren't warned.
They are funny. You are homeless, don't want to do anything - here you go, free home, free money. You are a mass murderer - here you go, free cell-like flat, free food, free education, constant attention, probably millions spent on you. You work hard - you pay highest taxes, you pay for everything, you receive lower level of services as you aren't poor enough. 🤑
Four years ago while in college I wrote a thesis on homelessness. I have a huge interest in helping people that are living without homes. There was a study done in Florida where the housing first method was deployed. The study showed that the housing first method is the most successful with helping homeless people become housed, and treat addictions and mental health issues.
Some people need the support provided and can't remain independent without it. There is nothing wrong with supporting those who are only partially able to support themselves.
If you fall, the first thing you need, to get up and running is a space of your own, a home. Living on the street is not a good start. However as a Finn I have to add this. It's quite obvious that even very rich countries in the south with a warmer climate find it easier to look the other way regarding poverty than it is in more northern countries with a winter like in Finland and other Nordic countries. There are many reasons a person can end up homeless but the first and best solution is to end the homelessness and then try to mend the reasons. Losing your job doesn't have to be the fault of your own for instance. I want the society I live in to be fair also towards those poor bastards who are not as smart and lucky as the smart arse I am. PS. have you ever read about homeless ants or mice
@@louiselloyd1523 , yes. it has helped a lot. I had to add that we don't end up on the street as often as we have an affordable healthcare and education and many understand to be unionized. To quote from the Wikipedia on the Nordic model. "American author Ann Jones, who lived in Norway for four years, posits that "the Nordic countries give their populations freedom from the market by using capitalism as a tool to benefit everyone" whereas in the United States "neoliberal politics puts the foxes in charge of the henhouse, and capitalists have used the wealth generated by their enterprises (as well as financial and political manipulations) to capture the state and pluck the chickens.". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
Who'd a thunk that making sure people have got a house to live in stops them being homeless eh? Before we were sold out to reich wing corporate entities by evil thieving c^nts like Thatcher this was standard practice, making sure social housing stocks were adequate was the primary responsibility of every local authority until Thatcher forced those local authorities to sell off their housing stocks at massive losses while stopping them from building replacements creating a housing shortage which created the housing bubble Ponzi scheme that stands in the way of building new even private property as the bubble requires artificial demand. In the UK homelessness was never a major issue until Thatcher, in her first 2 years she put 100,000 people on the streets.
Despite the drawbacks mentioned in Finlands approach, it works because they are working on it as an integral part of their government. Most government programs anywhere are works in progress, flawed, etc. But the Finns accept that this is what it is. Its a worthy endeavor and other places could use whatever aspects of it that fit their country. It requires commitment, which most governments lack.
At first I was like, "So what, it's like a lot of low income apartments here"..... then they threw in the 20 on-site social workers and I choked up. Oh my God. What an incredible support network. We have a few things in my area that are similar, but on a much smaller scale (4 -7 people with 1 to 2 unpaid mentors).
The housing unit I was in was about 30ish apartments, and the only person on site was just the lady you gave rent to. If we could stop politicians from stealing the shit out of all our money maybe we could have a support system like that. Makes all the difference.
How about churches who claim to be Christians but don't help others, only tell people to tithe while the preachers live like their millionaire's wearing expensive suits, drive multiple cars, outlandish jewelry and other things! The bible says if you see someone that is in need would you help or would you pass them by! Many pass them by or give them spiritual pamphlets and they think they are doing God's work!! That is a sin in itself! 🙏
Have you been around people who are suffering from addictions or mental illness? This process only works for people who aren't suffering from either and are simply down on their luck. And for people in that category I'd argue it would work very well. People who are suffering from addictions will use their housing as either brothels or crack houses. The goal is to feed the addiction. Nothing else. People who suffer from mental illness will not self medicate to manage their illness. They also will likely not do self care. And in both scenarios the homes provided will likely not be kept cleaned or maintained. Eventually everything gets soiled, bug infestations occur, and the repairs to the building exceed what anybody would consider a good return on the investment. Neither category of person will be able to hold a steady job so they simply aren't goin to find work. Employers want people they can trust. Not people who are unreliable or will steal from them to feed their drug habits. And then of course there is the gang element. Finland likely doesn't have a gang culture. The US does. So yes, the gangs are going to find ways to manipulate the system to bring this free housing to their advantage.
It's my understand that Norway does this, as well, and has probably one of the most compassionate and reasonable prisoner rehabilitation programs on the planet. It's not just Norway, although they're doing a good job, as well.
@@le_th_ Having worked in the adult corrections In the US I can honestly say the system is setup for failure. Movies like the "Shawshank Redemption" might indicate that their are social programs and half way homes for incarcerated people to transition through to get readjusted to modern society, but I can honestly say these programs aren't at the level needed. For example, in my state we did have a prison facility specifically to transition non-violent inmates back into society. The facility didn't even have fences or patroling armed guards. Their entire arsenal could have fit in a small gun vault. But that same facility shut down some +15 years ago. And nothing took its place. The inmates are basically cut lose with the resources they have back to their families. And yeah, I've seen men who spent over 20 years in prison who have never even used a cell phone in their life be set free. And as for those on parole ... everyone I have seen who got arrested for violating patrol all had the exact same violation. A failure to pay their parole fees because they could not find work. There was one case in particular that opened my eyes to how bad the US system was. Guy arrested for violating his parole. He was actually arrested at his place of employment working a minimum wage job. And why was he arrested? Because members of an opposing gang claimed he had robbed them. That all it took for him to violate his parole was the sworn statement from two people who had every reason to lie about him. I have no idea if the DA eventually dropped the case or not, but the damage was done. The guy lost the only job he probably could hope to land as a convicted felon. So I bring this as a cautionary tale. That if you think somebody who is a drug addict, mentally ill, or has been incarcerated can actually become a functional member of society while they transition through their issue I'd say you are crazy. Because at the end of the day, the employer needing them isn't going to trust them to do right by them. And yes, I'd argue that system is setup to create failure.
I once read a comment that said you always see the dark side of things. Happy to see that you can talk about the positive things with the same level that you talk about the negative things. Great video!
Part of the problem I have observed in the US is that being homeless is a choice. In the Dallas area, they cleared out a massive homeless camp from under I-45. Before they cleared it out, social workers went in and talked to those people. Out of over 200 individuals in that camp, they found 2 that honestly wanted to get out of there and get back to working. There rest said that they basically wanted no part of working for someone just to turn around and give most of that money earn over to rent and bills.
This! I feel like while the Finnish model sounds great, it completely ignores the fact that humans will always try to maximize their benefits with the least amount of effort and this Finnish model made no mention of how it politely forces recipients to become participating members of society contributing back to the system that saved them. That system cannot sustain itself for any other homeless people if it is increasingly supporting a class of "freeloaders" (for lack of a better term) who have no incentive or requirement to hold a job and move on to independent living. What will end up happening is people living on the edge will CHOOSE to be homeless knowing they'll live better as a subsidized citizen and everyone else who isn't homeless grows resentful knowing their tax dollars are supporting a class of non-workers who appear to be functioning well enough to re-enter the workforce but choose not to. One person even commented that their county adopted the Finnish program and how they're happy to be drug free and make YT videos all day, sing, play guitar, etc. but made no mention about their employment status. How are you contributing back to the system so that it can sustain itself for others in need? Have you transitioned to independent living so the next person in need gets the care you got? I'm not trying to bash anyone, but it's the one thing I've always found fault with liberal policies is that it has this happy-go-lucky idealistic view of humanity that completely ignores real human nature.
Y’all are the problem. I’m in Dallas too and the blank stares on their faces are oblivious… plus Republicans since Reagan have cut rehab funding for decades making this problem. You ever notice how so many are around hospitals? Because Republicans cut funding so hospitals simply roll and dump them on streets!
Haha this is the problem…. Americans have this nasty perspective when it comes to working and contributing. Finland and Europe as a whole has a society that thinks differently about work and arent trying to maximize on screwing over the system or worries about people who are. Americans problem with homeless people is they think they are freeloaders and would rather not help them vs help them. It all comes to the people, the law only reflects the attitude of them people. Especially in places like NY or CA
Homelessness is NOT a choice. 83% of American families are one paycheck away from homelessness and that is a PRECOVID statistic. The root cause isthe shortage of affordable housing.7.3 million houses are needed for lower income families and a middle wage income is no longer a guareentee that you will not be.homeless. If you think drug addictio is the major force behind homeless ness, think again. Of the 650,000 homeless in our nation only 19% have drug laddiction. Housing lfirst and universal income have been proven to help people get off the streets and not cycle back into homelessnrss.
Some people come to a place in their life where they need someone else’s help. It definitely helps when there is someone who can help during that time to give you some time to sort things and get back on your feet.
@@pcopeland15 Most homelessness isn't pre-planned so there's not much of an option to help before. Most homeless became homeless quickly by doing things like getting evicted or being on highly addicting drugs (oxycontin, heroin, meth, etc) which debilitate the user in a matter of days to weeks. The other option is losing your job which leads to losing your house/apartment quickly (see getting evicted). Most middle-income workers don't have the kind of cash flow to help another person out with their lack of housing and they don't have the space in their house to bring in other people. If you grew up with a house with a spare room for guests, congrats on living a life of privilege that most don't have.
I worked for the Salvation Army in 2009. Homelessness was several different things, but mental health problems were definitely noticeable. I would say that ongoing supervision is definitely part of the solution. It's not possible to just put people into housing side by side before there are problems. Some kind of feeling of family connectedness is needed. We really had good structure at the small Salvation Army shelter, but it was a lot to deal with. Substance addiction, marital strife, serious health issues with armed forces veterans. Most common issue was no family help nearby, or family that was exhausted from the problems of our clients.
One major problem with religious based shelters is that it entails proselytizing. No one wants to be preached at. Homelessness cannot simply be prayed away. Homeless people need homes, not housing. The reason any given individual is homeless is not because of a lack of faith in jesus. They are homeless because of a lack of money to afford a roof over their heads. Belief in god is not going to get them off the streets.
@@dingusdingus2152 Nobody said belief in God will get people off the street nor implied it. But as a religious organization, part of their mission is to spread their faith. And part of their ministry in spreading their faith is to do what Jesus said and provide for the poor and the needy. The organizations don't force you to convert for their help. Their just there to help. And if you want to learn about their faith, they offer to teach you. Some people do in fact want to hear preaching.
@@1000rogueleader they are not "just there to help". They are actively trying to convert people so as to get warm bodies through the turnstiles. That is why religious organizations exist and no other reason. What's insidious about preaching AT homeless people is that it is coercive: those who want to stay the night in the shelter are essentially captive, entering into an unspoken acceptance of certain terms and conditions. Salvation army wants to win hearts and minds? Save the sermons and have the staff band (they have a band which is basically like a symphony orchestra but with only brass instruments) come and perform a full length concert...
@Dingus Dingus the salvation army don't aim to convert, they aim to help others first as having an alterior motive while helping others is not true altusim...
@@rebeccaconlon9743 alterior is not a word. Maybe you meant ulterior. The salvation army's proselytizing is real slick and sneaky. But my point still stands: nobody wants to be preached at, nobody wants to hear sermons...
We definitely do not take care of our own! It's hard not to become bitter when people illegally entering have all their basic needs met while Americans, especially veterans, are ignored!
Their personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't forget that part. Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9% Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that. Finland is going broke. Because someone still has to PAY for all of it. Gee, what a "novel" idea.
Thank you so much for this information! I always wondered why other countries were ahead of the US with homelessness and why we couldn't just follow their lead??Finland sounds like a wonderful place to live. They seem to care more about the comfort and satisfaction of the people v.s money, as in the US.
Society has to care and have to make their govts care. I don't understand why people struggle to understand that some people will always struggle alone. Not all disabilities are visible. It can't be beyond us as a society to accept that there may be some of us who will never 'pay their way'. Are we really that selfish?
The hardest thing for a homeless person is to go get the mental health care they need and having social services come to their home . The Finnish Government will come out ahead . As a physician working the EMergency are this is our biggest challenge . Kudos to the Finnish !
Prevention is better than cure. We need to identify the red flags ahead of homelessness to help people maintain their independence and never become homeless.
I'm sorry to say but the mental health services here in Finland are so overbooked, to the point the lines to get treatment are so long that its literally illegal. you're supposed to get help within 6 months from requesting it (which is frankly already ridiculous), but sometimes you actually have to wait literal years for it. you can of course go private... if you can afford it. This system would actually work pretty well if you were to be able to get good care from mental health services in a more reasonable time frame, say a month, but until the government stops being a bunch of clueless wankers, things are likely to just get worse AND more expensive at the same time
I bet its a lot easier to deal with homelessness when your average winter temperature in the day is constantly below freezing. I've been friends with lots of homeless people. (I know -- that seems strange). the lack of cold in the area I lived helped enable their problems -- there was less motivation to fix things or get help
And when your personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't leave that part out. Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9% Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that.
@@syberphish The 57% rate you quoted is the highest possible income tax percentage in Finland that you pay when you earn more than a million euros a year! Finland has progressive income tax so you pay according to what you earn, the range is 0-57%. The average income in Finland for a full-time job is about 45000€ per year, with an income tax of about 30%. The median salary is a little lower. What you get is free education (that's ALL education, including master's and doctorate degrees in university), free universal health care, free child care, a social welfare system, equality, a clean and safe country, etc etc. Don't leave that part out ;)
I live in California i do plumbing for a living. For the last 5 years we’ve been contracted to redevelop existing hotels, motels and apartments for homeless people. They usually burn the buildings after they move in or just find a way to destroy it. It’s sad because there is a very small percentage of people that actually want the help. Right now we are currently working on a 50 room hotel we are adding kitchenettes to each room. They are ONLY for single mothers with children. I really hope this project turns out better. In California from my experience dealing with this homeless people after we come back to deal with there damages and have to make repairs I’ve noticed the majority are not even from California and they don’t want the help. The California system which gives them free money is what’s damaging this people. Take the help away and believe me there survivor skills will kick in and most likely go back home or actually get a job.
Curious - is there some sort of consequence for their destruction of the property? I would kick out the person who destroyed the property and let someone else move in with the incentive that if they help restore the domicile and live in it for 6 months while maintaining it in good condition, they can be upgraded to a slightly nicer place. They get the pride of helping build (ok, rebuild) the solution...and the incentive of better life for being responsible.
@@timothy4667 lol. If you start kicking tenants out for breaking things one wouldn’t have any tenants. It’s not intentional. Some people are just rough and the quality of ready made products aren’t the best. I try to always buy midline products but can’t always. Most are pretty cautious.
Might be a good idea to invest in some mental hospital/elementary school-type decorations. Things that can't break or be caught on fire. But even still, as the video mentioned, you can't just leave the homeless to their own devices - they aren't all functioning people to that level. They need help in the form of social workers.
@@timothy4667 I have a halfway house near my property. One of the residents were kicked out as you suggested. He hung out in front of a local strip mall and attacked one of my neighbors; trying to grab her keys. That’s half the problem. The owners getc$1,000 a week and when they relapse they are forced out and the public suffers.
So Finland found out the obvious; without a home everything else becomes more difficult for anyone, let alone vulnerable citizens. Meanwhile the quality of the society improves as well. And it is cheaper.
Many things are super obvious. Just like nobody wants to be a criminal. And people mostly come into criminality due to having a difficult life, money problems. End up in jail, in Norway you can get free education and get your diploma in jail. And they help you find a job. Get your life back together. There are 2 people, people with a bad history, bad influence in the past, and people who have a mental illness.
The thing is, it's not just about being effective, it's about the right thing to do. We belive that a roof over your head, food on the table, clean drinking water, a warm bed, education and health care when needed are the most basic human rights, and noone should ever be deprived of these things form any reason. And we are willing to pay for it, both because it's the right thing to do, but also because we know that the social security network we pay for will be there for us as well if we end up in hardship ourselves. This is why we have society.
I have a feeling that this system works as long as the county is rich enough, has abundant resources, low corruption and the number of "receivers" is low enough. Frankly speaking, I always wondered how it even works there. I know several couples from Finland. One guy doesn't work for the last 14 months (manufacturing) and continues to receive his pay. He doesn't want to go to work as he is so happy with his payments and enjoys life. Second couple works hard in hotel cleaning industry, but they enjoyed their life much more when they lived from welfare.
@@ZenioDovgj the secret is to spend smartly. Finland doesn't have super hig taxes and the cost of living isn't crazy high byeuropean standards, it's all about getting the most out of the spending. Probably also helps having very little corruption, hig trust in the government and very low levels of tax evation.
@@jakobrosenqvist4691 The first tax calculator gives me a tax rate of 48.7% in Finland for my level of income. I hope it's not as bad. But I know that I won't receive the corresponding amount of services unless I quit and decide to receive unemployment 😅 This is the exact reason my coworker "fled" Sweden. But yeah, it's not bad if you enjoy a simple life. The bad thing is that everything is equalized, so you're not encouraged to work hard to gain more.
@@ZenioDovgj if you end up with a tax rate like that in finland you are quite welthy and you will have plenty of disposable income. I end up with 18-20% and I make enough to live quite comfortably. In sweden I would pay 33%.
Sounds like Finlands solution to homelessness is the same as the Norwegians. I should know from experience because I live in Norway and was homeless and on drugs. I asked the government for help and they gave me an apartment that I have to pay rent every month to stay. I didn't have to quit drugs. That they didn't car about. As long as I was able to come up with the rent every month I could stay. Since it was a government apartment to help the homeless, the rent was only about half the amount of an apartment the same size that's not provided by the government. Since I have a disability that prevents me from work, I was able to get further help from the government in benefits where I get enough money for food, rent and bills. That is all in cash and I can if I so choose go and blow it all on drugs and use it unwisely, but then I would have to suffer the consequences of losing my apartment at the beginning of next time rent is due. That is the only drawback. If you miss laying rent once then you have to find another place to live. But since I've been living in this apartment, 5 years now, I have managed to get off drugs and since I can't work, get back into my other addiction, video games. Some do call video games a drug and if that is the case I'd rather be spending all day playing video games then spending all day trying to get money for my next fix. Plus it's cheaper too. Depending on the game, you can spend 100+ hours on a game where as a fix that cost just as as much last only about 12 hours. So since I live alone, I spend minimal on food and have enough to get at least one new game a month or two of these is a sale on eShop.
@@GUITARTIME2024 but the institutions need to ACTUALLY support them instead of just warehousing them. Supporting them includes providing the following- food, medical care (properly), counseling services, if needed then drug therapy, giving them a means to feel useful aka a job at the very least within the institution. Also, a thing that prevents much of forward movement from being homeless to a contributing member of society is that people need an address to get income and identification, people need income to get an address and identification and people need identification to get an address and income. Once these three things are obtained then often drug usage will fizzle out to more responsible "fixes" like video games or working, mental health issues can often be treated better by having a stable housing environment and getting actual medical care can help with maintaining chronic health issues.
In Finland we have highest amounts of schizophrenia in the world. Especially in the eastern parts of the country. Our bad genes have not prevented us from housing people with mental health problems. And it has to be housing, as the goal has been to keep the mwntal health patients as part of the society.
This is basically long term care. I live under the same arrangement and since there’s a waiting list for public housing, assisted living provides me with complete care for a small rent and I’m happy.
Many of the homeless are military veterans and deserve to be treated with some respect. As long as they pay a small rent and are given some sort of responsibility in the up keep of the building, then I think this is a great idea. It’s hard to make a livable wage these days that one can afford to pay rent in a decent apartment, but that doesn’t mean we can’t help some who are willing to help themselves in some respect, especially our vets.
Veterans are the only real people that should be given help if they ask. Because they already gave. All others...we gave you free school, free health care in school and took care of you until you were 18. If you chose to do drugs, be lazy then I don't care if you starve to death, just not in front of my house.
@@mutteringmale If it's pure laziness yes, I agree. The problem is that laziness or ineptitude most often stems from mental illness. Since the amercian social security net is a joke and access to rehabilitation and care is non-existent to these people (veterans included), most are bound to be homeless for life or fall into addiction to cope. It's sad that the so called "leader of the free world" treat their own vulnerable citizens like shit, and then expects the rest of the world to take them seriously.
@@denninosyos McNamara had to scrape the bottom of the barrel during 1960 to keep up his endless war in Vietnam, so he lowered the standards down to "retarded, criminal, mentally ill " and more. We see that on our streets now. The army is scraping the barrel again now, they're letting any mow rohn in and your kids will be seeing them as "homeless vets" in about 20 years, and paying massive taxes for them.
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I remember an article called million Dollar Murray... it talked about this guy who was costing los Angeles county at least a million dollars in a certain time period because he showed up at ER so often, police had to deal with them all the time, it just went on and on so they decided that just getting him a place was cheaper
Please realize everyone, some aren't on drugs or mentally ill. Sometimes people become homeless because they're family home is unsafe or family members have drug/mental issues.
We have some small pockets of tiny house communities for homeless in USA. There's one in my city. They run themselves with only one "manager" and have been successful for a decade. The biggest challenge is finding available land within the community for easy access to services, that doesn't bump into the "not in my backyard" argument. There are some intransigent people who are just not able to transition out, but the relief of living in a safe space and pride in having their own space to arrange/decorate as they wish, being treated with dignity really helps to overcome addiction, bad habits, and increases morale to move forward in life. On the other hand, the "public housing" high rises of the 70's have become rats nests of poverty and gang activity - overcrowded and poor social srvices.
🙄 SEATTLE - On Tuesday, the city of Seattle announced plans to shut down the Licton Springs tiny village in 2019. Licton Springs is one of eight tiny house villages around the city that serve approximately 350 homeless people every night. It has been in operation since 2017, providing residents access to shelter, restrooms, showers, kitchen and case management. As a "low barrier" encampment, residents do not have to be clean or sober to live there. In the spring, the city extended the permit for an additional year, despite concerns raised by people who live near the village that it has led to an increase in crime. According to Seattle Police records obtained by KIRO 7, crime in Licton Springs increased 100 percent in just one year. During the same time-period, crime in the larger area covered by the North Precinct dropped 7 percent.
@@mikeajames9261 more than that, most homeless "communities" have extremely high rates of assault and sexual assault, drug addiction, communicable diseases, etc. But liberals don't want to fix the actual issues they want to put them in a pocket in a corner of the city to rot
Finland has Not gone with the "Diversity is our strength" narrative they are a monoculture (Finn 93.4%, Swede 5.7%, Sami (Lapp) 0.1%, Roma 0.2%, Estonian 0.2%) just like the Swiss hence their success in pretty much all areas.
@@aikighost They also don't spend most of their school year teaching kids to take multiple-choice tests. Their curricula are relevant to their culture.
@Free The Birds what's the rate on that? And I was referring to the monoculture of Japan in case it wasn't clear. They too have low percentages of non-indigenous people.
Thank you for making this. A strong work ethic is important for everyone to have, but for people who have struggled with severe mental illness and drug addiction for many years, it's not always practical - housing first remedies this.
They tried this in the city where I live. A former hotel off Main St had to be renovated after a major fire, so they turned it into 36 housing units for homeless people. Reasonably nice studios for the location, only requirement to get in - homeless and never incarcerated for a violent crime. After 2.5 months, lights and ovens no longer worked in most of the units, because people had stripped the copper wiring. After about 6 months, the place was so damaged that several units had to be evacuated. And by the end of the year, the place had to be condemned due to litter, damage, feces, insects and other issues. You can’t change people who actively don’t want to get better.
That is shallow and narrow minded. Was the project set up to succeed. There are a load of logistics to take into account and if it was set to succeed then maybe you could look into exactly why it failed, that mite be helpful or at least pro active 👍
I lived i California. I attempted to apply for housing assistance and for certain housing there was a 10 year waiting list. Also, there was a huge army base that was abandoned. Thousands of homes, some politicians were lobbying to use that housing for homeless and other politicians were running ads saying it would condense the criminal elements, and that the homeless would end up burning them down and killing each other and the government did not want to be liable for that. When I moved they were going to tear them all down.
I've thought about using old indoor malls for this. They are all over.. they tend to sit neglected for years. You have a contained space.. that could be subdivided into apartments, and have shopping and grocery options inside the mall.. Sort of a small inclosed town. Easy enough to control the entrances for the residences.. so no or less drugs are allowed into the place.
Sounds demonic, not surprised that a demonic government would assume such lunacy. Their paranoia is what drives their policies and procedures. Water curse activate 💧🧙🏼♂️-🤮☠️
I feel like the worst thing that has happened to democracy is politicians. They care more about how a policy will make them look more than doing good. Even when there is a strong evidence base, they hamstring effective strategies so they don't risk dropping in the polls.
I am also from British Columbia. One of the problems which has become more apparent is the cost of basic housing. In Vancouver the median cost of a 1 bedroom apartment is $2600/month. People on fixed incomes (seniors, disability recipients) receive on average less $1800/month. I recently sold a van. I had many interested parties, all of whom were retired looking for accommodation.
I mean that's a simple solution, BC has lots of land. You literally just need to pass laws that allow small lots and small houses to be built. There will instantly be thousand and thousands of new little houses built every year that are renting for $800/mo
Its just crazy how life is expensive in the West in kenya (africa)for 2600 or 260k in kenyan currency one could rent a 4 bedroom luxurious apartments, but now the problem comes in there are not many jobs giving that kind of Money
@@mourice1669 There aren't that many jobs that pay that kind of money here either. That's kind of the problem. These policies that limit housing development are designed to push out the lower and middle class and leave only the rich.
Ive been wanting something like this for years if you put someone in rehab they get out and go right back to where they were what else are they gonna do but if they had mental health counseling a safe place to get away from their old ways and into a new chapter a sense of security the confidence and moral they will have will allow them to grow
I've read that rehab has 90% failure, 1 in 10. Each time a person goes into it, the same odds. Eventually, though, it takes, and yes, that could be a while. That's the reason that homeless people should always be given the option of rehab or whatever social service is needed, like a job and so on, or jail. Force them to make the choice, and do not tolerate homeless lifestyle if they are breaking laws. Someone in Slab City is free to stay there without being hassled, if that's how they want to live. But if they are in downtown LA or SF, they need to get with the program. Or move to Slab City.
This is amazing! Had my state had programs like this I wouldn't have been homeless for nearly as long as I was. Luckily, I had a friend who helped me out. I just had to move 1,000 miles away!
Wow. What an amazing friend. And what an idea! A citizen helping another citizen. Maybe we don’t need the government to take care of us if we could take care of ourselves and each other.
@NDTrades omg you're so right because we as citizens are all so good at heart, we make so much money (all of us--enough to pay for others entire lives), we all have our own houses too, and we don't pay taxes while the millionaires and billionaires all pay taxes! Yes! You're so smart! Let's do that! I appreciate you bestowing all of this wisdom upon me. Thank you 🙏🏻
@@selispeks Why the sarcasm? And what wisdom did I bestow? I have been in some very dark and grim situations in life. And to be helped by a friend to get out of that situation was a beautiful thing. And I am happy for you. I try to do the same to all that are in need to the best that I can. Let's all love one another and help each other. There would be no need for a government or a state to take care of the people if the people took care of themselves.
The issue in the US is that we have a population of exponentially larger than Finland. They also have an extremely homogeneous population. And they don’t allow the entire third world to come and take advantage of their welfare state.
In the USA many well educated working folks get physically injured or ill. Lately the real estate market has outpaced many working people's affordability. So the misnomer of all being mentally ill or drug addicted, is actually less than 40%. The others are in control of their life became ill or list their job. Thank you.
6:28 "It's better for regular people..," They're regular people too, just with difficult circumstances. Well done (again), Finland. Yet another way they can teachnus all how to treat people with dignity.
You know the chaos of the past few years? You know the chaos of the next few years? All because “fiscal conservation” was thrown out the window by the crazy left
Please remember that Finland has extremely stick definition for homelesness. I lived years in house that was considered as vacation-house in zoning laws. This made me a homeless in these statistics. That place was much better location and much nicer where I currently live.
same, I lived with my mother when I was an adult and was considered homeless as well 😂Which put me in the front of the apartment queue when I decided I was ready to move out.
@@YogonKalisto It's even more bizarre that these people who refuse to treat people as human beings often call themselves Christians - named after they guy that promoted extreme love, compassion and generosity.
I think the difference comes down to different cultural values in the different cultures. In Finland many people think "living quarters first" is a good idea. They like to share what they have. They love each other. In the US, many people think, well I worked my fingers to the bone to be able afford place to live, and lost 3 fingers in the process, why should someone else get their housing subsidize and be able to keep more of their figners?
@@timothyandrewnielsen Well I think there is something to what you are saying, but I think Finns are also tolerant of non-Finns, even when they are being a little ill-mannered. I say this because I knew a Finn who lived in the United States for a few months, and I saw how she interacted with various people who weren't Finns, including myself. We occasionally discussed some of the cultural differences and that's the impression I got.
@@soilmanted Sure, I can see that. Now have that same Finn live here for a decade and let's see if he/she still holds the same opinions. My educated guess is, they would change drastically.
The US mindset is the worst, kids move out at 18 when they are barely able to support themselves, and if the slightest thing goes wrong they end up on the street or doing drugs or in prostitution. Meanwhile in Asia and many other cultures it is common to have 3 generations of family living together and all contributing to housing and other expenses, but hey, USA #1!!
I live in a city with one of the highest rates of homelessness apparently it's terrible. I've asked a few and they all say they came to the area because it's well known the police are "soft" in this area. Sadly I've only ever seen two people without addiction issues out of hundreds. Nobody is helping. I give coats occasionally and feminine products for the women but you can never give cash and that's what they want. I'd like to help more but I'm not in the position to and to be honest a lot of these people are incredibly abusive.
nobody becomes and addict on purpose. It's not a fun ride. Take alcohol for example. Lost of people can drink on weekends and be fine. But certain number of people, like myself, find themselves getting drawn into it so that they orient their whole life around getting drunk. Some are able to be functional drunks. But many continue to fall down the ladder until they are on the street. It's easy to blame the addict for the addiction. That they have some character flaw and should just toughen up or bite the bullet. I wasn't able to get off alcohol until my health had gotten so bad that I was either going to quit or start writing my will.
We have a program like this in Portland where we're putting people into housing, and it's not going very well at all. Primarily because of the thing you said about access to addiction services, health services, and social workers. We just put a bunch of people into housing and acted like their schizophrenia would just go away on its own. A lot of people in that housing are still taking drugs, I'm sure in large part because they're worried it's all going to get taken away again at any time. They have every reason to think that. We have a huge amount of money set aside to help with these problems, and our legislature is standing in the way. The people keep voting to get these people off of the streets, whatever it takes, and public will and human safety are being held up by a handful of people in power and *their* ideology. It's a problem I don't have a solution to.
Many people will benefit just from the housing since they have the ability to get a new job and take care of themselves, they just need a time buffer. But there are no halfway ways to help many people in this situation. To be really effective, each of those housing needs a permanent, well trained staff of psychiatrists, medical doctors, drug rehab, job training...etc. It's a huge deal and when you do it right, I think you end up with what looks like a long stay psychiatric hospital situation + job training. Many people will have the will to use the tools provided to get out, but many will need lifelong care. The truly deep psychiatric issues and developmental issues will probably be a constant, small % of any population, so those would need annual, per-capital funding. But I think the larger influx of homeless in the US in the last decades can be tied to our Federal Reserve constantly bidding up the price of everything (interest rate manipulation) while saving failed banks and businesses. Propping up failed private institutions has a huge cost on society, and the least wealthy and capable suffer the hardest. Everything is more expensive when automation and other technologies should be driving the staples of life down to near zero cost. Something artificial is getting in the way of the physics of that and it needs to be removed.
@@MrBrock314 Where is my vote for who runs the Federal Reserve? I don't have a vote for them, as they are our wonderful unrepresented " manipulative government".
As a American living in Finland for about a year total I was amazed at how much support folks got from the local agencies. Here in the states we would sadly let them rot.
we would spend BILLIONS per year on policies that DON'T WORK. EX: jail and prison. The critics are LYING 100%. ALL homelessness was artificially created by the Hyper-Capitalists.
Good thin you didn't have to show for military practice as everyman in Finland in for life. They have to keep their weapons in there home in case of invasion. So every household is armed with an automatic weapon for peace. Portland should take notice here is a plan.
@@Winterstick549 It’s ridiculous. Someone tried to debate with me when I said that you’re just throwing money away with health insurance if you’re relatively healthy and never go to the doctor outside of annual, routine visits.
I didn’t even know this was how Finland is handling the unhoused. I’m writing a book about a fantasy world where nobody is homeless in the whole world because it’s handled ‘housing first’ style, just because I thought that would be the most effective solution in the first place. I’m really thrilled to see it’s actually working somewhere in real life.
Shared culture and norms help a lot too. It's easier to have collective responsibility about your society when there is not an underclass of people from different origins. It's much easier to care for your fellow man when they look like you, act like you and share your language and culture. Any country can solve homelesness by having a logic based problem solving approach and enough trust in their fellow countrymen that if they are taken care of now (when they struggle), they will contribute to society and are thus worth it. If you want a conflict for your book, start by erroding that trust.
@@B1gLupu oh there’s plenty of conflict prior to this point in history in the book world. The only book where ‘housing first’ is applied is the last one after one last terrible war that was on a scale so large that an inter-dimensional cosmic being had to come over and shush it. There’s multiple books earlier in the series where the rules of the world are forcibly changed between each. The last book is more of a history/slice-of-life about how the latest era started and how the world rebuilt from the rubble left behind.
Betterway ministries does the same in Peachtreecity ,Georgia . It houses felons gives them a place to go when released from jail , they have to be drug free alcohol free and maybe no smoking . Then give them place to work eat eat live and if all good for a year they can stay or leave . A fixed donated vehicle and a job in their moving business . I have made friends at this ministries building and it is great to see what Jon has do to help these forgotten people .
Well it seems to work giving person alternative positive reenforcement if a community and a job and the lord seems to have done great for these young men , even they fail and return to the state of problems and relapse back into drugs betterway takes them back in . I have seen this first hand .
I have read comments saying that they do this in California and Oregon, but those states have a serious homeless problem, a lot would agree it's the worst in the nation in those two states. So I'm not sure it really works in the US.
Calif. and Oregon doesn't want it to work. They are hopeless, at this point, I fear. They spend lots of tax dollars to "help" the homeless but most of it is wasted or, as I said above, ends up in the hands of politicians' donors who claim they have programs to help but, in reality, just want the money. I get a sense that Finland is far less corrupt than the US. It's smaller and the people pay attention. The US is huge and too many people pay no attention to what governments are doing, so they get away with it with ease.
Question. Who lives next door to 100 homeless people? Serious question, do you want to live next door to a homeless apartment complex? In NYC when the migrants move into a hotel, it’s a gigantic mess for the neighborhood. Suddenly there’s no peace in any direction of the hotel. It’s absolutely a horrible situation for the local community. There’s trash everywhere, loitering, people smoking, throwing trash directly onto the ground, yelling at 2am, drunk people passed out.... it’s a terrible situation when the homeless move in. No thanks.
Finland’s approach can work in most of Europe because being civilised nations we have lots of social care and public healthcare paid for by the government from income and business taxes etc. Tax is not a burden on a society it means that the society works for everyone equally. That is the mark of a civilised nation.
Very impressive approach to homelessness! I guess if it is the only way that works and many countries don’t have the money to apply that approach it is not surprising that it will keep growing. Maybe rather than trying to work with the homeless trying to find them a house it would be better in the short term to prevent homelessness from growing by helping people at keeping their home. I would not know how to resolve that problem. Good luck to the ones that are trying to resolve it.
Some people will always need help and there's nothing wrong with that. Set people up for their version of success rather than setting expectations that only lead to failure.
My brother-in-law knew a guy who was the head of maintenance for a brand new low income housing development. He said the residents absolutely trashed the place in no time.
But did they live and/or were their lives better off than they were? That's the important question. Also, did that place have enough social workers as mentioned in the video? The homeless aren't janitors. You'd still need a maintenance crew.
A similar program was adopted by a private group concentrating on shelter first. it was successful and saved a much higher percentage of money and had a great success story. Some people are evidently afraid to admit that it works and others slow walk and back peddle the idea to try to prevent helping others for some reason even though it works so well and saves so much money.
I have taken in 8 homeless people in the last 15 years and out of the 8 only 1 has not returned to the street. Many simply continued the habits and actions that caused the homeliness in the first place ( not talking about drug addiction here) Without a change of heart and the willingness to make the changes necessary they simply fall back into the cycle of dependency. In these cases the best incentive for change might just be their own self-inflicted hard times. Simply handing them what they want will do them no good. Access to help needs to be well vetted and only given to those making a true effert. Those with mental issues (schizophrenia, autism, Asperger's syndrome) do not simply need a place to live they need guidance and supervision, some 24 hr. a day for the rest of their lives. If a person suffering from schizophrenia skips their meds even one dose they could end up anywhere....It is clear these individuals need something more like assisted living and not just a room and a bed, although that is a start.
@@secrets2youth According to my own experience only 1 out of 8 took advantage of the opportunities given them. Their stay with me and my family lasted on average 4 months. In that 4 months they were given their own room and the funds to look for work as needed. Two of them spent it on drugs and booze within the first week and I kicked them out. The rest found multiple jobs during their stay but were either fired within a week or quit all of them. One even faked having a job for weeks borrowing money from my neighbors and friends to make it look like he was making money, he was quite the con artist. This lasted until I went to his place of "employment" only to find he never got the job in the first place. I even drop him off on my way to work each day. After he was gone it turned out he was also stilling and hawking my families stuff. The one that did get a job and took control of his life is still working as a longshoreman today making almost more than me. Don't quote your cherry picked statistics to me I have plenty of my own.
@@GSpotter63 well I can tell you that I did not take a alcoholics or drug addicts into my home I spoke to everyone probably 15 to 30 minutes either over the phone or face-to-face and I would ask first and foremost do you have interested in getting on your feet and would you be interested in having my help to come live at my house? If the man or woman said yes then I said we need to speak for a few minutes so I can determine if this is going to be good for both of us and we sat down and spoke after I asked several questions because I told them the rules of my house and home are no smoking drinking drugs or marijuana no weapons and treat everyone and everything with respect and divine love and if you have a problem then you need to come and speak to me and I will provide a place for you to live and I will get all the toiletries you need today and a few sets of clothing simple and provide three organic meals a day because I'm a Rejuvenation cook and I will spend time with you daily to see how you're doing and give you any feedback and let you know that you're supported and that was it. I also didn't think that anyone should be forced to work before they were ready so I only focused to make sure that they had something to focus on in the day that they chose or simply to sleep for a few days or a few weeks or even a few months because when they've been years without sleep the body needs to heal. When anyone was ready to find work then I would help with that. I spent a minimum of an hour a day to encourage and listen and give feedback and to be a great friend and when a man was ready I would help them create a plan still they could start their dreaming and they could start envisioning it and then when they were ready I would help them start to look at options for creating income
No, they would figure out how to make money developing and renting to the program. ' The people who would hate this are the 9 to 5 taxpayers who are gonna get stuck with the bill for all this.
Greetings from 🇫🇮 I work with this homelessness program and I want to say that when a person finally gets that little home of his own, he doesn't want to lose it, which contributes to rehabilitation. They go to rehab, rehabilitative work, go to school and even get a job. I'm really proud of them. They take life into their own hands again.
I think your country is amazing for having such a system and I appreciate you for working with them. 🙏
Thank you for dedicating your life in helping these ppl
It didn't work in Cali bc they did not adopt the entire program if they had it would have made a difference
what do you mean "finally"? Isn't the whole point that they get housing first?
@@kryphons9138probably theres quite a waitlist
I'm not homeless but Finland sounds like a very nice place to live if this is their attitude, helping people rather than treating them like dirt.
I hope a lot of motivated people come to the same conclusion, since we here in Finland are kinda (very slowly) running out of people.
You can judge a society by how it takes care of its weakest people. Finland shows a remarkable high moral ethics, that should be aspirational. Government is for the people, and Finland sets an example of that.
why are you running out of people if its a good country?@@B1gLupu
If these people weren’t lazyazzez they wouldn’t be homeless
@@B1gLupuSo you guys need immigrants? What’s the weed situation?
I am in Oregon, USA. I was homeless and my cousin took me in and gave me a spot to park my old camper. Then he helped me find a better rig. Then his brother gave me a "permanent" spot to park and minimal electricity. I was able to get the rest I needed and a safe place from which to jump back into society. I am now a school bus driver which I love. I am getting stronger and healing from long-term disabilities. I love my life now!!!
Congratulations you and your support from family did great!❤
Yea big whoop.
Good for you.
I'm proud of you. That might not mean much coming from a stranger, but I wanted to put it out there in case you needed to see that someone appreciates your hard work.
@@timothyandrewnielsenactually go shove it up yours my dude.
I lost my job and the next day the guy I was renting a room from (no kitchen, just a room and a bathroom) told me he needed the room back. I called California state for assistance and the woman on the phone belittled me for not being able to find another place to live. It was difficult to get a hold of a real person and when I did the first time, they hung up on me when I asked a question. I got the hell out of that State and moved to Washington state because I have family that was willing to help me. I'm still struggling but if it weren't for family and the small amount of SNAP i get from the state, I would also be on the streets. Hats off to you Finland for taking care of citizens when they fall on hard times. THAT is what a government should be doing.
It's actually the job of the church not the government but the church fails miserably, sad😢
@@jazaneksmith6038 that would take away from their tax free profits.
@@jazaneksmith6038hence why it’s not the job of the fucking church. The church is not an authority, it is a private business.
It should not be the task of one particular organisation. Taking care of each other should be a very normal and common practice of all of society…
@@suzanneke it should be, but when you have psychopaths and sociopaths in positions of power, that energy shifts the common practice and thinking of those who follow it.
I was homeless for years. I couldn't stop doing drugs. I didn't want to live. I got an apartment through government housing and I immediately stopped doing drugs. I smoke pot but it's legal here in Arizona. My life has improved incredibly. I have started making TH-cam videos, singing and playing the guitar again, and I get to decorate it however I want. It's my sanctuary. For years I went in and out of rehabs, mental hospitals, halfway houses, and sleeping on the ground. And the other thing is the government is spending WAY less money on me because I'm not constantly in detox and rehab on their dime. Great video topic! Finland looks amazing.
Wish you all the best.
Glad to hear that you're feeling and doing better keep the sunny side up.✌️❤️
Wow, that's so awesome to hear.
What's the government housing program called that you used? I'm homeless in PA, looking for solutions...
Glad to hear you got into a better situation btw 🙏
I’ve experienced homelessness first hand in and with several friends.Housing first is essential to have any chance of getting your life back together. When your homeless your in survival mode. All day, everyday, your focused on finding the necessities, staying out of bad weather, making sure all you own isn’t taken or trashed. There is no true privacy, nowhere to safely let your guard down. Your shut off from society, shunned and looked down upon. All that does is mess with your mental health. Expecting people to climb up from that is absurd, and for some, simply insurmountable.
I feel our society runs on fault, shame, and blame instead of compassion for the situation and integrated solutions that solve problems. With the wealth and availability of so many abandoned buildings all across the US, there is no excuse for the crisis we are now in. I believe the e only way we can truly effect change is to create robust community organizations that work together and start funding them at the town level. This will not come from Washington.
Because American Government politicians are greedy/they rather stuff their Bank account's than solve American homeless problems,The American Government have little interest in America's healthcare, America's infrastructure,America's college debt and America's homeless But War's destroying Humanity America's Government invest BILLION'S UPON BILLION'S OF America Taxpayer's MONEY(THAT'S WHY America HOMELESS PROBLEMS WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY)
Sadly much of the US homelessness could be fixed. There are tons of apts, offices & other empty buildings that could be transformed but they are owned by the wealthy & big business. They get huge tax breaks for depreciation, maintenance & financing. But, on top of that, they get tax breaks when the bldg are empty & they aren't rented. Another way the wealthy are manipulating our govt in their favor.
No! Try republicans first. They don’t want to support the needy in the society. What would Jesus do?
The no true privacy thing has been grinding me lately. I'm naturally introverted and need space to recharge.
Being stared at, glared at, looked at over my shoulder at any given time of day or night is really draining.
im sure they dont want to solve anything
The wounded soul needs compassion and love and people who care. It also needs, in many cases, a chance to learn how to take care of themselves, a chance to grow up in a normal way and not in the dysfunctional way that wounded their soul. Yay, Finland, for giving these people love and care and for being a faithful part of their lives. Bravo! Of course your system works!
Because American Government politicians are greedy/they rather stuff their Bank account's than solve American homeless problems,The American Government have little interest in America's healthcare, America's infrastructure,America's college debt and America's homeless But War's destroying Humanity America's Government invest BILLION'S UPON BILLION'S OF America Taxpayer's MONEY(THAT'S WHY America HOMELESS PROBLEMS WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY)
No, it doesn't. The government is paying for these people to continue a non productive life and expects the people to pay for it forever.
HOUSING FIRST Works for so many reasons... The Biggest reason is it gives PEOPLE who have No Safety or Stability in their lives... SAFETY and STABILITY... YOU Can NOT FIX HOMELESSNESS WITHOUT HOUSING ... FOOD, CLOTHING & SHELTER... THESE ARE THE BASICS of LIFE FOLKS... ALWAYS HAS BEEN and ALWAYS WILL BE.
It doesn't take Rocket Science or a frickin' Phd to figure that out ... If ELON had put his BILLIONS towards doing THIS for humanity instead of Twitter ... We would ALL be well on our way to a 100% Viable Global 🌍 Solution to issues like this by now... Ya know?
I couldn’t have said it better
I've lived in Finland for years as an expat student. I can definitely confirm that I never saw a single homeless person and have been all over Finland from Lapland all the way down to Helsinki.
Thansk for confirmation! Every place has their trouble, for sure, but nice to know.
I live in Japan and I haven't seen anyone homeless yet either. But it's interesting to me that he says Japanese low homelessness rates are questionable. I wonder why he didn't even give details as to why.
I live in Finland and we do have some homeless people. You can't always tell who's homeless by the way they look. They have access to shower and laundry. You might be able to tell by the bags they carry with them. Some camp in the woods during summer and they prefer to keep their tent in a place, that is not easily found by outsiders. During winter, they usually need to keep walking through the night to survive. I've visited Japan a few times and seen homeless people there, too.
@@riittap9121 Yup. I actually was officially homeless for a whole year. From autumn to fall I lived in my van. In winter I moved between my friends paying them some little sum for a place to stay.
But this homelesness was by the choice a social experiment for myself kind of and it worked up fine. Although whole time I knew I have a choice to move in rental apartment if I feel so, I still got a wholesome experience as a "nomad".
It was nice to test the challenge of not having a home to go and I learned alot from myself, most important thing was that I get to know my limits and weaknesses.
@@hansolo8225 The same climate in other Nordic countries as well.
Who knew giving people houses and supporting them meaningfully reduces homelessness
You’re triple vaxed gay and boosted
I know, go figure!!!🙏🤔🏠❣️
Astounding how the obvious can become the obvious!
The question is how to pay for it. I will bet if they started with 20 thousand homeless they have multiple times that amount supported at taxpayer expense now. Also if borders are open then they are saying anyone globally can come and be supported for life at taxpayer expense
Educated, attentive, empathetic, kind, thoughtful, affection etc.., Individuals and it helps being from 1 race, nationality...,
This makes a good point. A lot of homeless crazies and drug addicts are schizophrenic. The thing a schizophrenic needs most in order to get better is stability. A warm dry place to sleep that you won't get kicked out of is the most important part of stability.
Heck just not getting enough sleep at night can have a shocking effect on even a person without mental problems.
I work overnight and on my Monday by the time I finish and get home I will have been up 25 hours and I'm starting to see things.
Not to bad but if say a plastic bag moves I may think it's a critter. If someone wasn't getting enough sleep every night, I can easily imagine it getting really bad!
Mental disease is a myth. The people you're speaking about may be eccentric, but it's not that they are incapable of reason/can't be negotiated with. I get so sick of people using bullshit mental health concepts to convey their judgements of other people, whether it be complete strangers or close friends. People need to stop deferring their good judgement to the cult of psychiatry (which is nothing more then an source for excuses by government and others to limit certain persons' liberty... or worse, such as lobotomy). It's so f*cking lazy and beyond ignorant.
I’m an educator and have also done research on best practices around the world and Finland has also use amazing ingenuity to be a leader in student success and literacy. Maybe I’ll move to Finland someday.
You really should
I was homeless for a number of years. One thing that made it hard was finding a stable job I could work being fat and having mental issues but also finding a cheap place to live. I tried getting an education and getting a degree in IT but that did not work out. What did work was working at a small call center then working my way up to data input. After the company got shutdown I found a job as a credit card processor for a bank working from home.
All that time I had found a very small, very cheap apartment that gave me privacy and a place to decompress. I have autism and loud noises set me off. I have never let anyone else into my apartment, it is MINE!!!! It is not for anyone else, it is the one place i do not need to be guarded about. It is a little dirty, a little messy but it is the one place I can be myself without someone else judging me.
I was lucky, I never lived rough. I lived in a homeless shelter for a couple of years working there while trying to get things straight. Most are not. The homeless need a secure place and the help and the will to get off the streets. Mental health and drugs take there toll and most homeless will never get off the streets cause they are so far into drugs or alcohol and mental issues they will not or cannot seek the help they need. Housing first sounds like a better idea and would of made things much easier for me. I hope other countries and cites try this, it would make things better.
Good on you for surviving such difficult circumstances. I hope that you go from strength to strength and have a life that you can enjoy and where you can stay well.
How do you think your earlier life would have played out if you had access to psychiatric care to help you manage your mental issues? It seems like a lot of people get screwed just because they can't afford the mental care or/and medicines they need.
I’m happy for you
I lived with different friends for a few years (on the floor, on a couch, a shared room, and at a brief time, even my own private room for free). It wasn't until I found my own place did I begin thriving. Back then cell phones were not as common as they are now-- giving friends phone numbers for employers to call me was an experience. Finding a job was easier when you have stability. Having a steady place to call home is spot on. Kudos to Finland for their success and what they want to achieve!
The ability to provide for individuals with nuanced and complex needs takes a lot of work, time and understanding that cannot be overly simplified. Unfortunately, laws and policies often miss this crucial aspect.
"You don't need to first turn homeless people into model citizens (5:10)" is spot on. Different ideologies are another. Thank you for highlighting this!
There should be an accommodation/allowance for ppl without houses bc a cell phone can be used instead and or a po box. Ppl could also charge their phones mostly in libraries or free service phone 'booths' or welfare centres etc. With this ability to receive notifications and other correspondence there should be no need to deny payments or incarcerate ppl. But this accomm. I think, still has not been executed by some countries etc for surmountable reasons.
You got more homeless people in America than you got an entire population in Norway, Finland Denmark and Iceland or Scandinavia combined.
Small cities compared to the US. Compare apples with apples then give me the percentages.
It's too bad they're forcing farmers off of their land.
@@aarondigby5054 And why has the country let it get so bad...? Hmmm?
I remember in 2007 when I was working in real estate seeing people buy homes new from builders with the intention of selling before close of escrow to a new buyer for profit. The crash was so brutal and fast that I remember seeing a lot of these units foreclosed on with the builder plastic still on the carpet.
I’ve been diligently working, saving and contributing towards early retirement and financial freedom, but since covid outbreak, the economy so far has caused my portfolio to underperform, do I keep contributing to my 401k or look at alternative sectors to meet my goals?
@@izagdlife Consider investing in stocks especially during a recession . While recessions can be tough, they can also offer good chances to buy low and sell high in the markets if you're cautious. Just remember, this is not financial advice, but it's a good time to think about buying stocks since having cash on hand isn't always the best option.
@@izagdlife Moving your money from the housing market to financial markets or gold due to high mortgage rates and tough guidelines. Home prices may need to drop significantly before things stabilise. Seeking advice from a financial advisor who understands the market could be helpful in making the right decisions.
@@charlotterayeee How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.
@@izagdlife *Mr Gary Mason Brooks* is the licensed advisor I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment.
I was in Finland a month ago compared to the rest of the Europe. I was surprised at how clean and happy it was over there. I would move there if I could
They say finnish people are at the top of the most happy countrys in the world i see why now they look after citizens.
Entire Northern societies works in the same respectable manner.
Lead by the principles of social democracy are the key...
No blacks or mexicans. Easy to be happy then
Finland's suicide rate is 30% higher than the world average.
@@OmmerSyssel Yeah because when you rely on the United States to fight china and russia and north korea, all the money you would spend on military can go to your people instead.
Must be nice.
Russia will invade soon. And Finland along with every other 'happy' nation will be begging for arms from the United States.
In several states, there have been people who have tried to set up 'tiny houses' that are basically 1 room with an attached bathroom. They make a small community of them of like 15 to 20 homes, and to get into one, a person has to follow rules, like keeping it clean, and keeping the area around the home clean and work with the organizers in getting job, or on social security or disability if they need it.
However....a number of these places were told to stop...because the houses were not big enough, that a house needed x number of square feet and the city or state threatened to and has demolished these sites. These are nice homes, with heat, air conditioning, a small kitchenette, a bed, with room for a recliner and a t.v. But it's not big enough to be humane living conditions according to the laws. I look at these tiny homes and how nice they are, and I can't believe the law makers don't change the rules rather than force those folks back onto the street to live under a cardboard box.
The world that seems wanted is the good the bad and the ugly all living amongst one another . Side by side . No one is looking to improve anything , just let it fall apart . That's my opinion
@@melindasmith3713
It seems that way, don't it.. Or they want to hide the unwanted under the rug..
@@melindasmith3713 When it falls apart, the bad will make it hell for the good. And that's not the way to go. I don't think everyone is entitled to equal living conditions.
If someone goes out and works hard and gets rich, or even is just lucky to be born rich...that's fine with me. They get their mansion.
But if someone else is born poor, or is just lazy and doesn't want to better their selves, then I have no problem with them living in a small home/apartment, even if it's subsidized by society. But those folks should not expect to live in fancy places.
I think capitalism works, but that there is also room inside of that for some social help beyond tossing food stamps at people. Housing should be a priority...but those getting it, should tow the line too and at least do the minimum in keeping the place clean.
Those that can't...maybe they should be warehoused in shelters or if they are truly mentally ill, be in a safe environment with help to try to get them to function in society again, if at all possible.
The USA is one of the richest countries in the world, and if it wasn't for so much government waste of money, we could easily take care of those in our society who struggle to care for their selves.
Even if only one or two out of ten manage from that boost in help, and are able to go get jobs and improve their own lives, it would be worth it. But those who can't, at least won't have to live in squalor and make our cities ugly with their tent cities lining our streets and filling up parks meant for families to have picnics in.
@@StormyPeak Good thing you are not a politician.
The USA is no longer the richest nation in the world. We have over 3 trillion dollars in debt not counting interest. We have dropped to being the 2nd producer of goods because our politicians took big business money and removed import tax, pay companies to move outside US, and hire that countries $2 per hour nationals over US $15 per hour. There are issues at play but too many to explain here. Some are human caused,some are the way of technology.
Finland also changed their schools from low performing by doing what seemed a backwards approach. I am impressed with the country. They seem to realize ... doing the same thing that doesn't work... means you need to try something that is really different.
I don't know about that. I knew several families from finland with a different opinion from yours.
@@mostlysunny582 Several out of 5.5 million? That's not exactly statistically significant.
@@MrBrock314ironically that person didn't reply
@@mostlysunny582ur wrong
I love how complainers would rather have homeless sleep in every alley, making their mental issues worse and the streets way less liveable than house them. Even superficially, selfishly it makes sense for the government to spend my taxes to actually clean up the streets. No amount of anti-homeless benches would be able to keep our public spaces free from homeless as much as actually housing them
I once saw a documentary where an elderly american was interviewed. She would rather die than go to the free ambulance.
@@Redfizh yeah, I see those interviews too, it's wild to me. What's wild also is that they're told that any social services means communism all the way, when in reality private healthcare is still always offered to those who want to pay for it
@@SkaN2412 Odd how they do not see elementary schools as communism.
In Finland you have something called winter. Look at San Francisco. They spend massive amounts on providing "housing" while ignoring the drug and mental issues and it just swamps them with more homeless not less
@@jerrymiller9039 that is a good point, drugs are extremely rare in Finland. Alcohol is the main drug (after coffee).
Most of the issues in any society is solved by providing a good start early in life. System where people are hand held guided into a good life and never let them fall in the first place.
In Finland, giving a house is usually not needed as unemployment benefit is enough for a rent and every unemployed is guided to work or education, that is also free.
One would truly have to seek for a trouble to be in trouble.
90% of people in trouble are lost immigrants, who cant speak english or finnish. These are also only form of beggars we have. You can find at least 2 in central trainstation of Helsinki.
I work in social services to house homeless people in northern California. We follow the Housing First model but most of us know that it's less effective without extra funding for follow-up services. Most of our successes involve building relations with landlords and offering things like higher security deposits. There are some major successes in reducing homelessness in California, but it varies wildly by county because federal and state funding is county-based and some counties are frankly more hostile to the homeless than others.
Canada has embraced the concept of Housing First, but neglected to actually create provide housing units…so homelessness continues to grow. We have a federal government that “talks the talk”, throws money around which only wealth developers can access, and thinks they done something fantastic for our Country. Kudos Finland!
In other words they created the problem and now pay themselves to keep it going. Then they play smoke and mirrors lying about it and making bank. Another day, another dollar. They are turning the screws on us harder and faster as we speak.
Medicine Hat, Alberta, Canada has resolved their homeless problems years ago. Their homeless people are housed immediately, given health care, job and education assistance in the main town areas. (Many homeless people have jobs just not shelter) Putting them in out of the way areas of the community does not help them. Nowadays, a homeless person/family in Medicine Hat are sorted in ten hours or so. Big plus - cost to the township of properly dealing with this situation has dropped by half compared to band aid help that generally exists.
when the word gets out you are gonna have a million people move in
Sorry Sarah. Wish it were true. Not even close. I was a cop in Winnipeg and spent most of my 35 years in the downtown, my last 5 on the beat in an area that is ground zero for homelessness, crime, addiction, mental health issues. It's gotten worse. And I'm also in touch with colleague in other major Canadian centre's. It's only "better" in the minds of those who ignore the reality and always think they know best, and who are all too often self serving. The underlying problems continue to fraught with truths that are ignored, and everyone continues to dance around. Kudos to the Fins, but their society (as noted in the video) has crucial differences, many that are the envy of other societies. But you just can't put a template on the problems elsewhere. It will be a process, with hard choices, but these cost popularity, and so costs votes, so nothing much but lip service happens, however it does continue to be its own growing industry.
If California sends it's 80,000 homeless folks to Medicine Hat, do you think you can sort them in 10 hours?
It would be greatly appreciated.
@@hwdrebel how about California sorted its own problems instead of exporting them?
yeah so, a drug problem that looks like homelessness won't be solved that easily
A decent society is one which looks after the ones who are weaker and vulnerable.
Finland currently has the strictest abortion laws in the Nordic region, which is protecting their unborn citizens (the most vulnerable population). That changes in September 2023. Their decent society is faltering.
@@greenteabear-fb7st I come from Christian family. And people who have a child when they are young teenmoms are looked down upon and the whole family gets ashamed in churches. Because of this secret abortions is skyhigh in Christian Community. Nobody talks about it, while Atheists accept their child moms and support them growing up the kids. Did you knew this? Did you knew the most abortions are actually done by Christians in USA secretly ? Because of shame?
@@greenteabear-fb7st The Marin government (who introduced the relaxation of the abortion laws, along with allowing mass migration leading to high crime rates) has been ousted, the Finns party, the right wing coalition and the Finnish Christian party will now be in control and they have very strong stances on these positions, so there is a good chance that those laws will not take place, along with much strichter laws for migrant crimes.
We hope to see Finland retain it's name as the safest, highly homogeneous country in Europe.
@@einar6229 ah, good. Theocratic racists. My favorite.
@@redjack2629 I see you like diverse criminals. How strong and brave
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Public housing was a normal thing in developed nations in the post-war era (US may be an exception as they often are). It was useful for more than just 'the homeless' because it also prevented many poor and working class citizens from ever _becoming_ homeless. We sort of forgot it was something we can do. This odd notion that public works are somehow 'artificial' while private ones are natural gets in the way of that.
Their personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't forget that part.
Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9%
Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that. Finland is going broke. Gee... yeah lets run things like them, they're literally going broke.
Because at the end of the day, someone still has to PAY for it all, and they just ran out. Is that how "developed nations" operate? Funny...
Is that 57% figure the _top_ marginal income tax rate in a progressive income tax scale, or is it the only rate? I ask because the top rate, only paid by some and only on part of their income, is often confused for income tax as a whole.
You notice, though, I was not talking about Finland now, but many developed nations in the recent past, including my own. Some public housing was the norm, accepted cross the political spectrum, and existed comfortably alongside robust private enterprise.
Maybe Finland go too far, but these are not either-or questions, and you can scale things according to your own priorities in a mixed economy. Like the author says, despite his narrative, this is not a one-size-fits-all scenario.
@@syberphish Yet Finnish people aren't dying and I don't see news articles talking about the country of Finland going to hell in a handbasket. So despite your random stats, Finland is doing fine.
@@MrBrock314 I didn't say they were dying in the streets, I said they have an uncertain economic future and their outlook isn't as rosy as everyone would suggest.
Further, they restrict entry to only those healthy and capable of working or benefiting their country.
People want us to be like them without that part, but that part is crucial to affording the social systems.
Many of us grew up in public housing…our parents were low income workers were put on a rent buy scheme, it allowed some to work there way up in life, aventurely move on & up in life, others stayed proud staying in there homes.
Other countries still PROVIDE housing anyway, just in a form JAILS, which should be even more costly if you consider all the expenses associated with it. Also in Fin model the streets are safer and at least some people have a proper chance to get back on track as well, which is a win-win for everyone.
Our jails are better than living conditions in many countries. We have to give something better than that or everyone would see crime as an option.
Jails and prisons are actually obscenely expensive... Why not just a plain old sewage hole in the ground that well fenced off?.... J/K But they really need to look at the costs there, surely it doesn't have to be that expensive..
About 20 years ago I was a prison librarian in a state prison. Cost $30,000 a year per inmate. Yeah, I think there's probably cheaper alternatves.
Although one of the things I was told during training is that we (society) see prisons as a final "solution". Prisons MUST take whoever they're sent.
Jails can institutionalize people against their will to medicine and treatment and stop them from making bad choices. But in housing first, all of it is voluntary and they can make decisions that’s horrible but legal
I'm okay with jail. It worked for the first 200 years.
Never forget how much the rich and powerful constantly play us against each other to maintain their structure. This video is proof that there are better alternatives easily available, if we can stop being constantly distracted and misled.
The funny thing is "housing first" has been what the us is doing. The part that is present is the supportive services piece. That is where we are failing miserably. I live in CA in a project that is supposed to provide support. I pulled the contracts and found over 1.1 million in misappropriated funds and NO ONE GIVES A DAMN! This issue is NOT if there are funds. The issue is there is NO enforcement and this demographic has no legal voice. The homeless are easy scapegoats! So, those charged with assisting have no real incentive for clients to truly heal. It is a joke!
you can only shake your head at the level of denial that some people have. The only way they can rationalize their pathetic life is to convince themselves that it's someone else's fault. Listen Hammock, rich people and everyone else for that matter are busy with their own lives, and no one else really gives a sh*t about you, outside of a few family and friends. That's the harsh reality that everybody learns on their journey through life, and some people respond to the challenge, and others spend their lives saying woe is me.
@@daleviker5884 " rich people and everyone else for that matter are busy with their own lives, and no one else really gives a sh*t about you"
That is kind of the point...
@@jenkem4464 No, that's not the point. Hammock said, "constantly play us against each other to maintain their structure.", which is not equal to apathy towards others. Jesus, read before posting.
I should have clarified. In context of homelessness, inequality, the current vulture capitalist feudal system we live in the point is the rich don't give a F, correct.
Yep, I have been sort of homeless, but had a little caravan that I could live in. It was difficult because you can’t just find a place to put the caravan and stay there. Rules meant that I had to be constantly on the move towing and lots of other things are then difficult. But I was warm and dry and happy.
If I was properly homeless, on the streets, you’re damn right I’d be drinking or taking drugs or anything else I could do to make life more bearable. I’ve never been a drug taker or drinker. Being homeless would change that I’m sure.
Expecting people to get clean from drugs, even when they literally can’t get their body clean, is totally arse first in my mind
Quite right. Most addicts have houses and can barely function with them. Without the house, virtually no chance to do so. A lot of people complain about "not sleeping in my bed tonight". Well, imagine that problem every day for eternity. Then, think about the last time the house was too cold or too warm and multiply that by a factor of 100 and add that in for eternity. You ever tried to do work at 0 degrees Celsius without proper outerwear or food while coming down from a high? No - it's impossible as you're too busy shivering and being hungry and having psychological/physiological issues from the drugs. All your thoughts are directed to those basic needs. Once your basic needs are met, then you can consider doing things like contributing to society but it's not going to happen the other way around as a rule.
Must have been an adventure as well maybe. ?
@@stevedavis6879 oh, I loved it. In fact I’ve been living in an ordinary house for a couple of years and I’m now thinking about going back to live in my caravan. It has cooking fasciities, it was warm and it has a loo and a proper shower, all in a 6’ 6” x 12’ space - everything I need and no excess, brilliant
@@clareshaughnessy2745 haha brilliant . I'm here in the uk , and homeless is very bad just like anywhere else . All I can say is do what you think and feels right for you .👌
@@stevedavis6879 yeah, I don’t think it’s for everyone. Lots of people like more space or have too much stuff. You have to be incredibly strict about not having anything extraneous to just exactly as much stuff as you need. It just really suits me
Finland leads the world as a compassionate and intelligent country. We could all learn from them. Thanks for this great video.
As a Finn I want to add that we are all quite similar in this respect among the 5 Nordic countries.
@hurri7720 and please vote to stop immigration so we can at least have our Nordic culture preserved. I believe all cultures should be saved, not forced to coexist
Isn’t Finland broke?
@@astra6712 They are doing great. And welfare suckers are doing great.
But as a person who works hard and pays a ton of taxes I get the same level, or probably even less attention and services from the county. Because I'm "not poor enough". That's fine if you like some sort of not failed communism. I guess it works as long as the country is rich.
It works because their population is homogeneous. Almost 95% are White European Fins. It will not work in the US as certain race that makes up 15% of the population commits half the crime and other issues.
There will always be people in our society that will need help. In some cases, the help allows them to become productive citizens, while others will need support all their lives. But productive or not, they are human beings and we have an obligation to care for them.
Why should I have that obligation
@@hdjwkrbrnflfnfbrjrmd because you would enjoy someone having that obligation towards you if you were in need of help too
@@Knightgil but I don't need help, I need to not have my money stolen from me.
Good for you, Bob! You are absolutely right. Of course, there are many who would disagree with you. These people are called sociopaths.
@@hdjwkrbrnflfnfbrjrmd There will be an eventuality where you will, in fact, need help. If you maintain this stance by then, don't say you weren't warned.
"How did Finland solve homelessness?"
"They gave them homes"
"Oh!"
They are funny.
You are homeless, don't want to do anything - here you go, free home, free money.
You are a mass murderer - here you go, free cell-like flat, free food, free education, constant attention, probably millions spent on you.
You work hard - you pay highest taxes, you pay for everything, you receive lower level of services as you aren't poor enough.
🤑
Somehow, it does seem obvious.
It works because their population is homogeneous. Almost 95% are White European Fins.
@@matrixace_8903 Even the immigrants have jobs and homes. What's your point?
@@paullangford8179 it's raðer common to have solutions feel obvious when ðey are revealed but not before
Four years ago while in college I wrote a thesis on homelessness. I have a huge interest in helping people that are living without homes. There was a study done in Florida where the housing first method was deployed. The study showed that the housing first method is the most successful with helping homeless people become housed, and treat addictions and mental health issues.
Some people need the support provided and can't remain independent without it. There is nothing wrong with supporting those who are only partially able to support themselves.
I don't know what the point of "civilization" is if we aren't taking care of our most vulnerable people
But supporting people who should disables them
As long as there is a plan of action and they are participating
If you fall, the first thing you need, to get up and running is a space of your own, a home.
Living on the street is not a good start.
However as a Finn I have to add this. It's quite obvious that even very rich countries in the south with a warmer climate find it easier to look the other way regarding poverty than it is in more northern countries with a winter like in Finland and other Nordic countries.
There are many reasons a person can end up homeless but the first and best solution is to end the homelessness and then try to mend the reasons.
Losing your job doesn't have to be the fault of your own for instance.
I want the society I live in to be fair also towards those poor bastards who are not as smart and lucky as the smart arse I am.
PS. have you ever read about homeless ants or mice
I like an honest man😅😅😅😅
so can you tell me is the Finnish method working?
@@louiselloyd1523 , yes. it has helped a lot.
I had to add that we don't end up on the street as often as we have an affordable healthcare and education and many understand to be unionized.
To quote from the Wikipedia on the Nordic model.
"American author Ann Jones, who lived in Norway for four years, posits that "the Nordic countries give their populations freedom from the market by using capitalism as a tool to benefit everyone" whereas in the United States "neoliberal politics puts the foxes in charge of the henhouse, and capitalists have used the wealth generated by their enterprises (as well as financial and political manipulations) to capture the state and pluck the chickens.".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_model
Wise words!
Who'd a thunk that making sure people have got a house to live in stops them being homeless eh? Before we were sold out to reich wing corporate entities by evil thieving c^nts like Thatcher this was standard practice, making sure social housing stocks were adequate was the primary responsibility of every local authority until Thatcher forced those local authorities to sell off their housing stocks at massive losses while stopping them from building replacements creating a housing shortage which created the housing bubble Ponzi scheme that stands in the way of building new even private property as the bubble requires artificial demand. In the UK homelessness was never a major issue until Thatcher, in her first 2 years she put 100,000 people on the streets.
Despite the drawbacks mentioned in Finlands approach, it works because they are working on it as an integral part of their government. Most government programs anywhere are works in progress, flawed, etc. But the Finns accept that this is what it is. Its a worthy endeavor and other places could use whatever aspects of it that fit their country. It requires commitment, which most governments lack.
At first I was like, "So what, it's like a lot of low income apartments here"..... then they threw in the 20 on-site social workers and I choked up. Oh my God. What an incredible support network. We have a few things in my area that are similar, but on a much smaller scale (4 -7 people with 1 to 2 unpaid mentors).
The housing unit I was in was about 30ish apartments, and the only person on site was just the lady you gave rent to. If we could stop politicians from stealing the shit out of all our money maybe we could have a support system like that. Makes all the difference.
I reacted the way you did. My mouth dropped when I heard the social workers and support.
How about churches who claim to be Christians but don't help others, only tell people to tithe while the preachers live like their millionaire's wearing expensive suits, drive multiple cars, outlandish jewelry and other things! The bible says if you see someone that is in need would you help or would you pass them by! Many pass them by or give them spiritual pamphlets and they think they are doing God's work!! That is a sin in itself! 🙏
Thank you, Finland for being an example to the world.
In so many ways!!
Have you been around people who are suffering from addictions or mental illness? This process only works for people who aren't suffering from either and are simply down on their luck. And for people in that category I'd argue it would work very well. People who are suffering from addictions will use their housing as either brothels or crack houses. The goal is to feed the addiction. Nothing else. People who suffer from mental illness will not self medicate to manage their illness. They also will likely not do self care. And in both scenarios the homes provided will likely not be kept cleaned or maintained. Eventually everything gets soiled, bug infestations occur, and the repairs to the building exceed what anybody would consider a good return on the investment.
Neither category of person will be able to hold a steady job so they simply aren't goin to find work. Employers want people they can trust. Not people who are unreliable or will steal from them to feed their drug habits.
And then of course there is the gang element. Finland likely doesn't have a gang culture. The US does. So yes, the gangs are going to find ways to manipulate the system to bring this free housing to their advantage.
It's my understand that Norway does this, as well, and has probably one of the most compassionate and reasonable prisoner rehabilitation programs on the planet. It's not just Norway, although they're doing a good job, as well.
@@superdave8248hit the nail on the head.
@@le_th_ Having worked in the adult corrections In the US I can honestly say the system is setup for failure. Movies like the "Shawshank Redemption" might indicate that their are social programs and half way homes for incarcerated people to transition through to get readjusted to modern society, but I can honestly say these programs aren't at the level needed. For example, in my state we did have a prison facility specifically to transition non-violent inmates back into society. The facility didn't even have fences or patroling armed guards. Their entire arsenal could have fit in a small gun vault. But that same facility shut down some +15 years ago. And nothing took its place.
The inmates are basically cut lose with the resources they have back to their families. And yeah, I've seen men who spent over 20 years in prison who have never even used a cell phone in their life be set free.
And as for those on parole ... everyone I have seen who got arrested for violating patrol all had the exact same violation. A failure to pay their parole fees because they could not find work.
There was one case in particular that opened my eyes to how bad the US system was. Guy arrested for violating his parole. He was actually arrested at his place of employment working a minimum wage job. And why was he arrested? Because members of an opposing gang claimed he had robbed them. That all it took for him to violate his parole was the sworn statement from two people who had every reason to lie about him. I have no idea if the DA eventually dropped the case or not, but the damage was done. The guy lost the only job he probably could hope to land as a convicted felon.
So I bring this as a cautionary tale. That if you think somebody who is a drug addict, mentally ill, or has been incarcerated can actually become a functional member of society while they transition through their issue I'd say you are crazy. Because at the end of the day, the employer needing them isn't going to trust them to do right by them. And yes, I'd argue that system is setup to create failure.
I once read a comment that said you always see the dark side of things. Happy to see that you can talk about the positive things with the same level that you talk about the negative things. Great video!
Thanks Finland for helping because that every human needs a chance .
I’ve been asking myself about how to do that in a massive scale, and this videos just dropped in my lap, so many possibilities, thank you for sharing
Part of the problem I have observed in the US is that being homeless is a choice. In the Dallas area, they cleared out a massive homeless camp from under I-45. Before they cleared it out, social workers went in and talked to those people. Out of over 200 individuals in that camp, they found 2 that honestly wanted to get out of there and get back to working. There rest said that they basically wanted no part of working for someone just to turn around and give most of that money earn over to rent and bills.
This! I feel like while the Finnish model sounds great, it completely ignores the fact that humans will always try to maximize their benefits with the least amount of effort and this Finnish model made no mention of how it politely forces recipients to become participating members of society contributing back to the system that saved them. That system cannot sustain itself for any other homeless people if it is increasingly supporting a class of "freeloaders" (for lack of a better term) who have no incentive or requirement to hold a job and move on to independent living. What will end up happening is people living on the edge will CHOOSE to be homeless knowing they'll live better as a subsidized citizen and everyone else who isn't homeless grows resentful knowing their tax dollars are supporting a class of non-workers who appear to be functioning well enough to re-enter the workforce but choose not to.
One person even commented that their county adopted the Finnish program and how they're happy to be drug free and make YT videos all day, sing, play guitar, etc. but made no mention about their employment status. How are you contributing back to the system so that it can sustain itself for others in need? Have you transitioned to independent living so the next person in need gets the care you got?
I'm not trying to bash anyone, but it's the one thing I've always found fault with liberal policies is that it has this happy-go-lucky idealistic view of humanity that completely ignores real human nature.
Truth!
Y’all are the problem. I’m in Dallas too and the blank stares on their faces are oblivious… plus Republicans since Reagan have cut rehab funding for decades making this problem. You ever notice how so many are around hospitals? Because Republicans cut funding so hospitals simply roll and dump them on streets!
Haha this is the problem…. Americans have this nasty perspective when it comes to working and contributing. Finland and Europe as a whole has a society that thinks differently about work and arent trying to maximize on screwing over the system or worries about people who are. Americans problem with homeless people is they think they are freeloaders and would rather not help them vs help them. It all comes to the people, the law only reflects the attitude of them people. Especially in places like NY or CA
Homelessness is NOT a choice. 83% of American families are one paycheck away from homelessness and that is a PRECOVID statistic. The root cause isthe shortage of affordable housing.7.3 million houses are needed for lower income families and a middle wage income is no longer a guareentee that you will not be.homeless. If you think drug addictio is the major force behind homeless ness, think again. Of the 650,000 homeless in our nation only 19% have drug laddiction. Housing lfirst and universal income have been proven to help people get off the streets and not cycle back into homelessnrss.
Maslow’s hierarchy of needs says if you’re worried aboutlosing your conditional housing, striving for higher goals is more difficult
Its NEARLY impossible to be productive in society without a home.
Some people come to a place in their life where they need someone else’s help. It definitely helps when there is someone who can help during that time to give you some time to sort things and get back on your feet.
People could help BEFORE people end up homeless
@@pcopeland15 Most homelessness isn't pre-planned so there's not much of an option to help before. Most homeless became homeless quickly by doing things like getting evicted or being on highly addicting drugs (oxycontin, heroin, meth, etc) which debilitate the user in a matter of days to weeks. The other option is losing your job which leads to losing your house/apartment quickly (see getting evicted).
Most middle-income workers don't have the kind of cash flow to help another person out with their lack of housing and they don't have the space in their house to bring in other people. If you grew up with a house with a spare room for guests, congrats on living a life of privilege that most don't have.
I worked for the Salvation Army in 2009. Homelessness was several different things, but mental health problems were definitely noticeable. I would say that ongoing supervision is definitely part of the solution. It's not possible to just put people into housing side by side before there are problems. Some kind of feeling of family connectedness is needed. We really had good structure at the small Salvation Army shelter, but it was a lot to deal with. Substance addiction, marital strife, serious health issues with armed forces veterans. Most common issue was no family help nearby, or family that was exhausted from the problems of our clients.
One major problem with religious based shelters is that it entails proselytizing. No one wants to be preached at. Homelessness cannot simply be prayed away. Homeless people need homes, not housing. The reason any given individual is homeless is not because of a lack of faith in jesus. They are homeless because of a lack of money to afford a roof over their heads. Belief in god is not going to get them off the streets.
@@dingusdingus2152 Nobody said belief in God will get people off the street nor implied it. But as a religious organization, part of their mission is to spread their faith. And part of their ministry in spreading their faith is to do what Jesus said and provide for the poor and the needy. The organizations don't force you to convert for their help. Their just there to help. And if you want to learn about their faith, they offer to teach you. Some people do in fact want to hear preaching.
@@1000rogueleader they are not "just there to help". They are actively trying to convert people so as to get warm bodies through the turnstiles. That is why religious organizations exist and no other reason. What's insidious about preaching AT homeless people is that it is coercive: those who want to stay the night in the shelter are essentially captive, entering into an unspoken acceptance of certain terms and conditions. Salvation army wants to win hearts and minds? Save the sermons and have the staff band (they have a band which is basically like a symphony orchestra but with only brass instruments) come and perform a full length concert...
@Dingus Dingus the salvation army don't aim to convert, they aim to help others first as having an alterior motive while helping others is not true altusim...
@@rebeccaconlon9743 alterior is not a word. Maybe you meant ulterior. The salvation army's proselytizing is real slick and sneaky. But my point still stands: nobody wants to be preached at, nobody wants to hear sermons...
In Finland we don't have empty skyscrapers that are the gem of someone's investment portfolio.
What a novel idea 😳 taking care of your citizens. We do not know what this is like in the states.
CAPITALISM ONLY TAKES CARE OF THE RICH citizens!!
We definitely do not take care of our own! It's hard not to become bitter when people illegally entering have all their basic needs met while Americans, especially veterans, are ignored!
Their personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't forget that part.
Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9%
Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that. Finland is going broke.
Because someone still has to PAY for all of it. Gee, what a "novel" idea.
Thank you so much for this information! I always wondered why other countries were ahead of the US with homelessness and why we couldn't just follow their lead??Finland sounds like a wonderful place to live. They seem to care more about the comfort and satisfaction of the people v.s money, as in the US.
Lol, so go there then. I'm happy here in the USA without socialism, thanks 😅
@@fiddlepants5947 That's a typical American response, but it doesn't solve the problem 😞
@@fiddlepants5947 typical American 🤦
Homelessness is a problem. The solution is....a home. Counterintuitive. Not really. Common sense is not common practice. Good on you, Sweden!
This problem should not be solved through socialism or the government. This is a role for the church.
Society has to care and have to make their govts care.
I don't understand why people struggle to understand that some people will always struggle alone. Not all disabilities are visible.
It can't be beyond us as a society to accept that there may be some of us who will never 'pay their way'.
Are we really that selfish?
The hardest thing for a homeless person is to go get the mental health care they need and having social services come to their home . The Finnish Government will come out ahead . As a physician working the EMergency are this is our biggest challenge . Kudos to the Finnish !
Prevention is better than cure. We need to identify the red flags ahead of homelessness to help people maintain their independence and never become homeless.
I'm sorry to say but the mental health services here in Finland are so overbooked, to the point the lines to get treatment are so long that its literally illegal. you're supposed to get help within 6 months from requesting it (which is frankly already ridiculous), but sometimes you actually have to wait literal years for it. you can of course go private... if you can afford it. This system would actually work pretty well if you were to be able to get good care from mental health services in a more reasonable time frame, say a month, but until the government stops being a bunch of clueless wankers, things are likely to just get worse AND more expensive at the same time
@@AURORAFIELDS I bet that while the rich get richer the government complains that it cant afford the healthcare and wants to make it privatized.
I bet its a lot easier to deal with homelessness when your average winter temperature in the day is constantly below freezing. I've been friends with lots of homeless people. (I know -- that seems strange). the lack of cold in the area I lived helped enable their problems -- there was less motivation to fix things or get help
"Any society that cannot remove it's waste dies." William Gayley Simpson.
This why I believe all homeless people should move to the South of France. If you are going to be a bum, then you might as well be a bum in Sun.
I think that could be an important factor here.
And when your personal income tax rate is 57%. Don't leave that part out.
Sales tax of 24%. Corporate tax: 20%, Social Security Rate: 31.55%, GDP of -0.6, GDP growth rate of 0%, inflation 7.9%
Yeah that's a real model of a winning way to do things. Tax the sh*t out of everyone and still go broke. Homelessness is their last concern in Finland, but the guy who made this video has a narrative he's pushing, so he didn't bother explaining any of that.
@@syberphish The 57% rate you quoted is the highest possible income tax percentage in Finland that you pay when you earn more than a million euros a year! Finland has progressive income tax so you pay according to what you earn, the range is 0-57%. The average income in Finland for a full-time job is about 45000€ per year, with an income tax of about 30%. The median salary is a little lower. What you get is free education (that's ALL education, including master's and doctorate degrees in university), free universal health care, free child care, a social welfare system, equality, a clean and safe country, etc etc. Don't leave that part out ;)
No wonder🤔 Finland is happiest country on this beautiful🌏 🌍🌎🥀planet!
I live in California i do plumbing for a living. For the last 5 years we’ve been contracted to redevelop existing hotels, motels and apartments for homeless people. They usually burn the buildings after they move in or just find a way to destroy it. It’s sad because there is a very small percentage of people that actually want the help. Right now we are currently working on a 50 room hotel we are adding kitchenettes to each room. They are ONLY for single mothers with children. I really hope this project turns out better. In California from my experience dealing with this homeless people after we come back to deal with there damages and have to make repairs I’ve noticed the majority are not even from California and they don’t want the help. The California system which gives them free money is what’s damaging this people. Take the help away and believe me there survivor skills will kick in and most likely go back home or actually get a job.
There are always two sides to every coin. 😢
Curious - is there some sort of consequence for their destruction of the property?
I would kick out the person who destroyed the property and let someone else move in with the incentive that if they help restore the domicile and live in it for 6 months while maintaining it in good condition, they can be upgraded to a slightly nicer place. They get the pride of helping build (ok, rebuild) the solution...and the incentive of better life for being responsible.
@@timothy4667 lol. If you start kicking tenants out for breaking things one wouldn’t have any tenants. It’s not intentional. Some people are just rough and the quality of ready made products aren’t the best. I try to always buy midline products but can’t always. Most are pretty cautious.
Might be a good idea to invest in some mental hospital/elementary school-type decorations. Things that can't break or be caught on fire. But even still, as the video mentioned, you can't just leave the homeless to their own devices - they aren't all functioning people to that level. They need help in the form of social workers.
@@timothy4667 I have a halfway house near my property. One of the residents were kicked out as you suggested. He hung out in front of a local strip mall and attacked one of my neighbors; trying to grab her keys. That’s half the problem. The owners getc$1,000 a week and when they relapse they are forced out and the public suffers.
Well done Finland.
So Finland found out the obvious; without a home everything else becomes more difficult for anyone, let alone vulnerable citizens. Meanwhile the quality of the society improves as well. And it is cheaper.
Many things are super obvious. Just like nobody wants to be a criminal. And people mostly come into criminality due to having a difficult life, money problems. End up in jail, in Norway you can get free education and get your diploma in jail. And they help you find a job. Get your life back together. There are 2 people, people with a bad history, bad influence in the past, and people who have a mental illness.
Finland is a gem.
The thing is, it's not just about being effective, it's about the right thing to do. We belive that a roof over your head, food on the table, clean drinking water, a warm bed, education and health care when needed are the most basic human rights, and noone should ever be deprived of these things form any reason. And we are willing to pay for it, both because it's the right thing to do, but also because we know that the social security network we pay for will be there for us as well if we end up in hardship ourselves. This is why we have society.
I have a feeling that this system works as long as the county is rich enough, has abundant resources, low corruption and the number of "receivers" is low enough.
Frankly speaking, I always wondered how it even works there. I know several couples from Finland. One guy doesn't work for the last 14 months (manufacturing) and continues to receive his pay. He doesn't want to go to work as he is so happy with his payments and enjoys life. Second couple works hard in hotel cleaning industry, but they enjoyed their life much more when they lived from welfare.
@@ZenioDovgj the secret is to spend smartly. Finland doesn't have super hig taxes and the cost of living isn't crazy high byeuropean standards, it's all about getting the most out of the spending. Probably also helps having very little corruption, hig trust in the government and very low levels of tax evation.
@@jakobrosenqvist4691 The first tax calculator gives me a tax rate of
48.7% in Finland for my level of income. I hope it's not as bad. But I know that I won't receive the corresponding amount of services unless I quit and decide to receive unemployment 😅 This is the exact reason my coworker "fled" Sweden. But yeah, it's not bad if you enjoy a simple life. The bad thing is that everything is equalized, so you're not encouraged to work hard to gain more.
@@ZenioDovgj if you end up with a tax rate like that in finland you are quite welthy and you will have plenty of disposable income. I end up with 18-20% and I make enough to live quite comfortably. In sweden I would pay 33%.
@@ZenioDovgj after the WW2 Finland was very poor country. This approach has been one of the main factors that has made Finland what it is today.
Sounds like Finlands solution to homelessness is the same as the Norwegians. I should know from experience because I live in Norway and was homeless and on drugs. I asked the government for help and they gave me an apartment that I have to pay rent every month to stay. I didn't have to quit drugs. That they didn't car about. As long as I was able to come up with the rent every month I could stay. Since it was a government apartment to help the homeless, the rent was only about half the amount of an apartment the same size that's not provided by the government. Since I have a disability that prevents me from work, I was able to get further help from the government in benefits where I get enough money for food, rent and bills. That is all in cash and I can if I so choose go and blow it all on drugs and use it unwisely, but then I would have to suffer the consequences of losing my apartment at the beginning of next time rent is due. That is the only drawback. If you miss laying rent once then you have to find another place to live. But since I've been living in this apartment, 5 years now, I have managed to get off drugs and since I can't work, get back into my other addiction, video games. Some do call video games a drug and if that is the case I'd rather be spending all day playing video games then spending all day trying to get money for my next fix. Plus it's cheaper too. Depending on the game, you can spend 100+ hours on a game where as a fix that cost just as as much last only about 12 hours. So since I live alone, I spend minimal on food and have enough to get at least one new game a month or two of these is a sale on eShop.
Great, but in America, at least half of homeless are schizophrenic or similar, often who refuse to take medication. We need more mental institutions.
@@GUITARTIME2024 but the institutions need to ACTUALLY support them instead of just warehousing them. Supporting them includes providing the following- food, medical care (properly), counseling services, if needed then drug therapy, giving them a means to feel useful aka a job at the very least within the institution. Also, a thing that prevents much of forward movement from being homeless to a contributing member of society is that people need an address to get income and identification, people need income to get an address and identification and people need identification to get an address and income. Once these three things are obtained then often drug usage will fizzle out to more responsible "fixes" like video games or working, mental health issues can often be treated better by having a stable housing environment and getting actual medical care can help with maintaining chronic health issues.
You sound like a real parasite. And I don't believe for one second that you aren't doing drugs.
In Finland we have highest amounts of schizophrenia in the world. Especially in the eastern parts of the country. Our bad genes have not prevented us from housing people with mental health problems. And it has to be housing, as the goal has been to keep the mwntal health patients as part of the society.
This is basically long term care. I live under the same arrangement and since there’s a waiting list for public housing, assisted living provides me with complete care for a small rent and I’m happy.
Many of the homeless are military veterans and deserve to be treated with some respect. As long as they pay a small rent and are given some sort of responsibility in the up keep of the building, then I think this is a great idea. It’s hard to make a livable wage these days that one can afford to pay rent in a decent apartment, but that doesn’t mean we can’t help some who are willing to help themselves in some respect, especially our vets.
After COVID, many homeless are non-vets.
Veterans are the only real people that should be given help if they ask. Because they already gave.
All others...we gave you free school, free health care in school and took care of you until you were 18. If you chose to do drugs, be lazy then I don't care if you starve to death, just not in front of my house.
@@mutteringmale If it's pure laziness yes, I agree. The problem is that laziness or ineptitude most often stems from mental illness. Since the amercian social security net is a joke and access to rehabilitation and care is non-existent to these people (veterans included), most are bound to be homeless for life or fall into addiction to cope. It's sad that the so called "leader of the free world" treat their own vulnerable citizens like shit, and then expects the rest of the world to take them seriously.
@@denninosyos McNamara had to scrape the bottom of the barrel during 1960 to keep up his endless war in Vietnam, so he lowered the standards down to "retarded, criminal, mentally ill " and more.
We see that on our streets now.
The army is scraping the barrel again now, they're letting any mow rohn in and your kids will be seeing them as "homeless vets" in about 20 years, and paying massive taxes for them.
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I remember an article called million Dollar Murray... it talked about this guy who was costing los Angeles county at least a million dollars in a certain time period because he showed up at ER so often, police had to deal with them all the time, it just went on and on so they decided that just getting him a place was cheaper
Driving him waaaaaay out of town and dumping him off would have been even cheaper.
@@robgrey6183 hey i don't know about u but my Bible says we are supposed to be nice to people
The American health care system is another exploitation of its citizens. Surgery costs an arm & a leg which is the irony.
@@robgrey6183 drive your brain outta town
@@robgrey6183 bunch of knee jerk lunatics, if he's mentally disabled, why is he not getting a disability check?
Please realize everyone, some aren't on drugs or mentally ill. Sometimes people become homeless because they're family home is unsafe or family members have drug/mental issues.
Best education system in the world. Best approach to helping the homeless situation. Well done Finland.
We have some small pockets of tiny house communities for homeless in USA. There's one in my city. They run themselves with only one "manager" and have been successful for a decade. The biggest challenge is finding available land within the community for easy access to services, that doesn't bump into the "not in my backyard" argument. There are some intransigent people who are just not able to transition out, but the relief of living in a safe space and pride in having their own space to arrange/decorate as they wish, being treated with dignity really helps to overcome addiction, bad habits, and increases morale to move forward in life. On the other hand, the "public housing" high rises of the 70's have become rats nests of poverty and gang activity - overcrowded and poor social srvices.
🙄 SEATTLE - On Tuesday, the city of Seattle announced plans to shut down the Licton Springs tiny village in 2019. Licton Springs is one of eight tiny house villages around the city that serve approximately 350 homeless people every night. It has been in operation since 2017, providing residents access to shelter, restrooms, showers, kitchen and case management. As a "low barrier" encampment, residents do not have to be clean or sober to live there. In the spring, the city extended the permit for an additional year, despite concerns raised by people who live near the village that it has led to an increase in crime.
According to Seattle Police records obtained by KIRO 7, crime in Licton Springs increased 100 percent in just one year. During the same time-period, crime in the larger area covered by the North Precinct dropped 7 percent.
They're against building code.
@@mikeajames9261 more than that, most homeless "communities" have extremely high rates of assault and sexual assault, drug addiction, communicable diseases, etc. But liberals don't want to fix the actual issues they want to put them in a pocket in a corner of the city to rot
homelessness in america is often by choice, this speaks to a deeper issue than lack of housing
@@cagneybillingsley2165 I can't imagine anyone 'choosing' to be homeless however attitudinal Entitlement *is* a choice.
Finland has proven many times they are intelligent people. They're number one in education, as well.
Finland has Not gone with the "Diversity is our strength" narrative they are a monoculture (Finn 93.4%, Swede 5.7%, Sami (Lapp) 0.1%, Roma 0.2%, Estonian 0.2%) just like the Swiss hence their success in pretty much all areas.
@@aikighost Similar to Japan one might say.
@@aikighost They also don't spend most of their school year teaching kids to take multiple-choice tests. Their curricula are relevant to their culture.
@@a.k.7840 Young people in Japan are known to commit suicide because of the stress of education. I don't know many people who want that here.
@Free The Birds what's the rate on that? And I was referring to the monoculture of Japan in case it wasn't clear. They too have low percentages of non-indigenous people.
Thank you for making this. A strong work ethic is important for everyone to have, but for people who have struggled with severe mental illness and drug addiction for many years, it's not always practical - housing first remedies this.
Far better to have permanent support if needed than have people on streets
They tried this in the city where I live. A former hotel off Main St had to be renovated after a major fire, so they turned it into 36 housing units for homeless people. Reasonably nice studios for the location, only requirement to get in - homeless and never incarcerated for a violent crime.
After 2.5 months, lights and ovens no longer worked in most of the units, because people had stripped the copper wiring. After about 6 months, the place was so damaged that several units had to be evacuated. And by the end of the year, the place had to be condemned due to litter, damage, feces, insects and other issues.
You can’t change people who actively don’t want to get better.
Did they have access to free healthcare ?
That is shallow and narrow minded. Was the project set up to succeed. There are a load of logistics to take into account and if it was set to succeed then maybe you could look into exactly why it failed, that mite be helpful or at least pro active 👍
I lived i California. I attempted to apply for housing assistance and for certain housing there was a 10 year waiting list. Also, there was a huge army base that was abandoned. Thousands of homes, some politicians were lobbying to use that housing for homeless and other politicians were running ads saying it would condense the criminal elements, and that the homeless would end up burning them down and killing each other and the government did not want to be liable for that. When I moved they were going to tear them all down.
I've thought about using old indoor malls for this. They are all over.. they tend to sit neglected for years. You have a contained space.. that could be subdivided into apartments, and have shopping and grocery options inside the mall.. Sort of a small inclosed town. Easy enough to control the entrances for the residences.. so no or less drugs are allowed into the place.
Sounds demonic, not surprised that a demonic government would assume such lunacy. Their paranoia is what drives their policies and procedures.
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Sad
They are fear mongering people into thinking the worst about people. That is so sad and wrong!!
I feel like the worst thing that has happened to democracy is politicians. They care more about how a policy will make them look more than doing good. Even when there is a strong evidence base, they hamstring effective strategies so they don't risk dropping in the polls.
Other countries: "How do we solve homelessness?!"
Finland : "lmao, homes"
I am also from British Columbia. One of the problems which has become more apparent is the cost of basic housing. In Vancouver the median cost of a 1 bedroom apartment is $2600/month. People on fixed incomes (seniors, disability recipients) receive on average less $1800/month. I recently sold a van. I had many interested parties, all of whom were retired looking for accommodation.
They were buying a van to live in?
I have a minivan. I never thought of this possibility if I were to sell it. I'd probably cry if someone told me this.
I mean that's a simple solution, BC has lots of land.
You literally just need to pass laws that allow small lots and small houses to be built.
There will instantly be thousand and thousands of new little houses built every year that are renting for $800/mo
Its just crazy how life is expensive in the West in kenya (africa)for 2600 or 260k in kenyan currency one could rent a 4 bedroom luxurious apartments, but now the problem comes in there are not many jobs giving that kind of Money
@@mourice1669 There aren't that many jobs that pay that kind of money here either.
That's kind of the problem.
These policies that limit housing development are designed to push out the lower and middle class and leave only the rich.
Housing first is the best idea. Every time you move people, you stress them. That stair-step approach is stair-stepping stress.
Ive been wanting something like this for years if you put someone in rehab they get out and go right back to where they were what else are they gonna do but if they had mental health counseling a safe place to get away from their old ways and into a new chapter a sense of security the confidence and moral they will have will allow them to grow
I've read that rehab has 90% failure, 1 in 10. Each time a person goes into it, the same odds. Eventually, though, it takes, and yes, that could be a while. That's the reason that homeless people should always be given the option of rehab or whatever social service is needed, like a job and so on, or jail. Force them to make the choice, and do not tolerate homeless lifestyle if they are breaking laws. Someone in Slab City is free to stay there without being hassled, if that's how they want to live. But if they are in downtown LA or SF, they need to get with the program. Or move to Slab City.
This is amazing! Had my state had programs like this I wouldn't have been homeless for nearly as long as I was. Luckily, I had a friend who helped me out. I just had to move 1,000 miles away!
Wow. What an amazing friend. And what an idea! A citizen helping another citizen. Maybe we don’t need the government to take care of us if we could take care of ourselves and each other.
@NDTrades omg you're so right because we as citizens are all so good at heart, we make so much money (all of us--enough to pay for others entire lives), we all have our own houses too, and we don't pay taxes while the millionaires and billionaires all pay taxes! Yes! You're so smart! Let's do that! I appreciate you bestowing all of this wisdom upon me. Thank you 🙏🏻
@@selispeks Why the sarcasm? And what wisdom did I bestow? I have been in some very dark and grim situations in life. And to be helped by a friend to get out of that situation was a beautiful thing. And I am happy for you. I try to do the same to all that are in need to the best that I can. Let's all love one another and help each other. There would be no need for a government or a state to take care of the people if the people took care of themselves.
The issue in the US is that we have a population of exponentially larger than Finland. They also have an extremely homogeneous population. And they don’t allow the entire third world to come and take advantage of their welfare state.
@@ndtrades9650 It would be easier to take care of ourselves and others if corporate America was not stealing our money and life.
it's almost like other countries use the bottom tier of society as a threat/motivator for the rest.
In the USA many well educated working folks get physically injured or ill. Lately the real estate market has outpaced many working people's affordability. So the misnomer of all being mentally ill or drug addicted, is actually less than 40%. The others are in control of their life became ill or list their job. Thank you.
6:28 "It's better for regular people..,"
They're regular people too, just with difficult circumstances.
Well done (again), Finland. Yet another way they can teachnus all how to treat people with dignity.
Finland does so many things right. I hope their new government doesnt kill all this progress in the name of fiscal conservation.
With magic all crazy left ideas are possible
You do know money is not magic right?
You know the chaos of the past few years?
You know the chaos of the next few years?
All because “fiscal conservation” was thrown out the window by the crazy left
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@@behcherry9815 what?
Please remember that Finland has extremely stick definition for homelesness. I lived years in house that was considered as vacation-house in zoning laws. This made me a homeless in these statistics. That place was much better location and much nicer where I currently live.
same, I lived with my mother when I was an adult and was considered homeless as well 😂Which put me in the front of the apartment queue when I decided I was ready to move out.
Yeah, a big portion of those homeless statistics don't sleep on the streets.
That's the opposite of strict.
A strict definition whould do shit like exclude anyone sleeping in a house even if its a condemmed ruin.
That means the definition is lax, not strict.
@@endlesstrash4718 Exactly what I was thinking.
Thank you Finland for proving that it can be done! ❤👍
They treat people as human beings and with compassion. Genius!
it's bizarre how alien a concept this is for some
Yanks think this would be evil communism
@@YogonKalisto It's even more bizarre that these people who refuse to treat people as human beings often call themselves Christians - named after they guy that promoted extreme love, compassion and generosity.
@@aaronbono4688 the ironies surrounding the Christian "faith" are staggering and would be amusing if the impact wasn't so severe
@@YogonKalisto It is not alien. When you start taking hard earnt money from people who are on drugs people get angry.
I think the difference comes down to different cultural values in the different cultures. In Finland many people think "living quarters first" is a good idea. They like to share what they have. They love each other. In the US, many people think, well I worked my fingers to the bone to be able afford place to live, and lost 3 fingers in the process, why should someone else get their housing subsidize and be able to keep more of their figners?
Amen 100% with you.
Uk, finland is mostly finnish people. Theyre not 20 different races and religion. Easy to be happy around your own kind.
@@timothyandrewnielsen Well I think there is something to what you are saying, but I think Finns are also tolerant of non-Finns, even when they are being a little ill-mannered. I say this because I knew a Finn who lived in the United States for a few months, and I saw how she interacted with various people who weren't Finns, including myself. We occasionally discussed some of the cultural differences and that's the impression I got.
@@soilmanted Sure, I can see that. Now have that same Finn live here for a decade and let's see if he/she still holds the same opinions. My educated guess is, they would change drastically.
The US mindset is the worst, kids move out at 18 when they are barely able to support themselves, and if the slightest thing goes wrong they end up on the street or doing drugs or in prostitution. Meanwhile in Asia and many other cultures it is common to have 3 generations of family living together and all contributing to housing and other expenses, but hey, USA #1!!
I live in a city with one of the highest rates of homelessness apparently it's terrible. I've asked a few and they all say they came to the area because it's well known the police are "soft" in this area. Sadly I've only ever seen two people without addiction issues out of hundreds. Nobody is helping. I give coats occasionally and feminine products for the women but you can never give cash and that's what they want. I'd like to help more but I'm not in the position to and to be honest a lot of these people are incredibly abusive.
nobody becomes and addict on purpose. It's not a fun ride.
Take alcohol for example. Lost of people can drink on weekends and be fine. But certain number of people, like myself, find themselves getting drawn into it so that they orient their whole life around getting drunk. Some are able to be functional drunks. But many continue to fall down the ladder until they are on the street.
It's easy to blame the addict for the addiction. That they have some character flaw and should just toughen up or bite the bullet.
I wasn't able to get off alcohol until my health had gotten so bad that I was either going to quit or start writing my will.
and a lot of homeless started out mentally ill ( a friend saw 'demons' when indoors). The mental system needs an over hall in USA
@@NullStaticVoid yeah, you knew your limits and didn't want to die, problem solved. Most don't care to die.
One of the first advocate videos that is balanced and talks plainly about the costs and the difficulties of replication.
We have a program like this in Portland where we're putting people into housing, and it's not going very well at all. Primarily because of the thing you said about access to addiction services, health services, and social workers. We just put a bunch of people into housing and acted like their schizophrenia would just go away on its own. A lot of people in that housing are still taking drugs, I'm sure in large part because they're worried it's all going to get taken away again at any time. They have every reason to think that. We have a huge amount of money set aside to help with these problems, and our legislature is standing in the way. The people keep voting to get these people off of the streets, whatever it takes, and public will and human safety are being held up by a handful of people in power and *their* ideology. It's a problem I don't have a solution to.
Many people will benefit just from the housing since they have the ability to get a new job and take care of themselves, they just need a time buffer. But there are no halfway ways to help many people in this situation.
To be really effective, each of those housing needs a permanent, well trained staff of psychiatrists, medical doctors, drug rehab, job training...etc. It's a huge deal and when you do it right, I think you end up with what looks like a long stay psychiatric hospital situation + job training. Many people will have the will to use the tools provided to get out, but many will need lifelong care.
The truly deep psychiatric issues and developmental issues will probably be a constant, small % of any population, so those would need annual, per-capital funding.
But I think the larger influx of homeless in the US in the last decades can be tied to our Federal Reserve constantly bidding up the price of everything (interest rate manipulation) while saving failed banks and businesses. Propping up failed private institutions has a huge cost on society, and the least wealthy and capable suffer the hardest. Everything is more expensive when automation and other technologies should be driving the staples of life down to near zero cost. Something artificial is getting in the way of the physics of that and it needs to be removed.
The solution would be to vote those few people out and/or remove their power and let the majority call the shots.
@@MrBrock314 Where is my vote for who runs the Federal Reserve? I don't have a vote for them, as they are our wonderful unrepresented " manipulative government".
Kinda like the opposite of America's plan of telling them to pull themselves up by their boot straps, while slicing the bootstraps off.
As a American living in Finland for about a year total I was amazed at how much support folks got from the local agencies. Here in the states we would sadly let them rot.
we would spend BILLIONS per year on policies that DON'T WORK.
EX:
jail and prison.
The critics are LYING 100%.
ALL homelessness was artificially created by the Hyper-Capitalists.
@The only sun az But the tax obviously gets used well :)
@The only sun az
Tell everyone how much your health insurance premiums are.
Good thin you didn't have to show for military practice as everyman in Finland in for life. They have to keep their weapons in there home in case of invasion. So every household is armed with an automatic weapon for peace. Portland should take notice here is a plan.
@@Winterstick549 It’s ridiculous.
Someone tried to debate with me when I said that you’re just throwing money away with health insurance if you’re relatively healthy and never go to the doctor outside of annual, routine visits.
Makes sense. If you are going to work. You need to shower and look decent. Having good sleep. MUCH more if you have a place to keep your stuff.
And the best education system in the world too.
Good job Finns.
Well.... That is debatable nowadays. Our politicians have made some poor choises regarding equcation these past years.
I didn’t even know this was how Finland is handling the unhoused.
I’m writing a book about a fantasy world where nobody is homeless in the whole world because it’s handled ‘housing first’ style, just because I thought that would be the most effective solution in the first place.
I’m really thrilled to see it’s actually working somewhere in real life.
Shared culture and norms help a lot too. It's easier to have collective responsibility about your society when there is not an underclass of people from different origins.
It's much easier to care for your fellow man when they look like you, act like you and share your language and culture.
Any country can solve homelesness by having a logic based problem solving approach and enough trust in their fellow countrymen that if they are taken care of now (when they struggle), they will contribute to society and are thus worth it.
If you want a conflict for your book, start by erroding that trust.
@@B1gLupu oh there’s plenty of conflict prior to this point in history in the book world. The only book where ‘housing first’ is applied is the last one after one last terrible war that was on a scale so large that an inter-dimensional cosmic being had to come over and shush it.
There’s multiple books earlier in the series where the rules of the world are forcibly changed between each.
The last book is more of a history/slice-of-life about how the latest era started and how the world rebuilt from the rubble left behind.
Betterway ministries does the same in Peachtreecity ,Georgia . It houses felons gives them a place to go when released from jail , they have to be drug free alcohol free and maybe no smoking . Then give them place to work eat eat live and if all good for a year they can stay or leave . A fixed donated vehicle and a job in their moving business . I have made friends at this ministries building and it is great to see what Jon has do to help these forgotten people .
That sounds helpful but being free of drugs is a hurdle many can't pass to get into a house.
Well it seems to work giving person alternative positive reenforcement if a community and a job and the lord seems to have done great for these young men , even they fail and return to the state of problems and relapse back into drugs betterway takes them back in . I have seen this first hand .
I have read comments saying that they do this in California and Oregon, but those states have a serious homeless problem, a lot would agree it's the worst in the nation in those two states. So I'm not sure it really works in the US.
Calif. and Oregon doesn't want it to work. They are hopeless, at this point, I fear. They spend lots of tax dollars to "help" the homeless but most of it is wasted or, as I said above, ends up in the hands of politicians' donors who claim they have programs to help but, in reality, just want the money.
I get a sense that Finland is far less corrupt than the US. It's smaller and the people pay attention. The US is huge and too many people pay no attention to what governments are doing, so they get away with it with ease.
This is fantastic , I hope we can do this in Vancouver . What a beautiful model . Beneficial to all especially long term . Wonderful job Finland !
Question. Who lives next door to 100 homeless people? Serious question, do you want to live next door to a homeless apartment complex? In NYC when the migrants move into a hotel, it’s a gigantic mess for the neighborhood. Suddenly there’s no peace in any direction of the hotel. It’s absolutely a horrible situation for the local community. There’s trash everywhere, loitering, people smoking, throwing trash directly onto the ground, yelling at 2am, drunk people passed out.... it’s a terrible situation when the homeless move in. No thanks.
@@francisaugistino701 homeless and migrants are not the same. definitely not the same in finland.
Finland’s approach can work in most of Europe because being civilised nations we have lots of social care and public healthcare paid for by the government from income and business taxes etc. Tax is not a burden on a society it means that the society works for everyone equally. That is the mark of a civilised nation.
Very impressive approach to homelessness! I guess if it is the only way that works and many countries don’t have the money to apply that approach it is not surprising that it will keep growing. Maybe rather than trying to work with the homeless trying to find them a house it would be better in the short term to prevent homelessness from growing by helping people at keeping their home. I would not know how to resolve that problem. Good luck to the ones that are trying to resolve it.
Some people will always need help and there's nothing wrong with that. Set people up for their version of success rather than setting expectations that only lead to failure.
Not every one dreams of success , I'm 46 and have no dream of success .
My brother-in-law knew a guy who was the head of maintenance for a brand new low income housing development. He said the residents absolutely trashed the place in no time.
But did they live and/or were their lives better off than they were? That's the important question. Also, did that place have enough social workers as mentioned in the video? The homeless aren't janitors. You'd still need a maintenance crew.
"... homeless or regular people..." dude, homeless ARE regular people.
A similar program was adopted by a private group concentrating on shelter first. it was successful and saved a much higher percentage of money and had a great success story. Some people are evidently afraid to admit that it works and others slow walk and back peddle the idea to try to prevent helping others for some reason even though it works so well and saves so much money.
Maybe the $50 million the USA solves their homelessness problem, you think?
@@aarondigby5054 We've spent more than that just supporting other Countries War's!!! The USA will not care for it's own people.....never has.
I have taken in 8 homeless people in the last 15 years and out of the 8 only 1 has not returned to the street. Many simply continued the habits and actions that caused the homeliness in the first place ( not talking about drug addiction here) Without a change of heart and the willingness to make the changes necessary they simply fall back into the cycle of dependency. In these cases the best incentive for change might just be their own self-inflicted hard times. Simply handing them what they want will do them no good. Access to help needs to be well vetted and only given to those making a true effert. Those with mental issues (schizophrenia, autism, Asperger's syndrome) do not simply need a place to live they need guidance and supervision, some 24 hr. a day for the rest of their lives. If a person suffering from schizophrenia skips their meds even one dose they could end up anywhere....It is clear these individuals need something more like assisted living and not just a room and a bed, although that is a start.
@@secrets2youth
According to my own experience only 1 out of 8 took advantage of the opportunities given them. Their stay with me and my family lasted on average 4 months. In that 4 months they were given their own room and the funds to look for work as needed. Two of them spent it on drugs and booze within the first week and I kicked them out. The rest found multiple jobs during their stay but were either fired within a week or quit all of them. One even faked having a job for weeks borrowing money from my neighbors and friends to make it look like he was making money, he was quite the con artist. This lasted until I went to his place of "employment" only to find he never got the job in the first place. I even drop him off on my way to work each day. After he was gone it turned out he was also stilling and hawking my families stuff.
The one that did get a job and took control of his life is still working as a longshoreman today making almost more than me.
Don't quote your cherry picked statistics to me I have plenty of my own.
@@GSpotter63 well I can tell you that I did not take a alcoholics or drug addicts into my home I spoke to everyone probably 15 to 30 minutes either over the phone or face-to-face and I would ask first and foremost do you have interested in getting on your feet and would you be interested in having my help to come live at my house? If the man or woman said yes then I said we need to speak for a few minutes so I can determine if this is going to be good for both of us and we sat down and spoke after I asked several questions because I told them the rules of my house and home are no smoking drinking drugs or marijuana no weapons and treat everyone and everything with respect and divine love and if you have a problem then you need to come and speak to me and I will provide a place for you to live and I will get all the toiletries you need today and a few sets of clothing simple and provide three organic meals a day because I'm a Rejuvenation cook and I will spend time with you daily to see how you're doing and give you any feedback and let you know that you're supported and that was it. I also didn't think that anyone should be forced to work before they were ready so I only focused to make sure that they had something to focus on in the day that they chose or simply to sleep for a few days or a few weeks or even a few months because when they've been years without sleep the body needs to heal. When anyone was ready to find work then I would help with that. I spent a minimum of an hour a day to encourage and listen and give feedback and to be a great friend and when a man was ready I would help them create a plan still they could start their dreaming and they could start envisioning it and then when they were ready I would help them start to look at options for creating income
All employers requires a home address on an application. This is a no brainer. Finland is using common sense.
The real estate tycoons would hate this. Let’s do it
No, they would figure out how to make money developing and renting to the program. '
The people who would hate this are the 9 to 5 taxpayers who are gonna get stuck with the bill for all this.