The ZORN limited palette - Painting Kingdom Death!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ส.ค. 2020
- Third episode of the series about mixing and painting using a LIMITED PALETTE.
Today we talk about the ZORN limited palette!!!
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#kingdomdeath #zornpalette #osl - บันเทิง
Rumor has it, that this guy puts two teaspoons of pure skill in his coffee every morning
😂😂😂 Thanks man!!!
Haha damn right he does!
Only two?
More like two teaspoons of coffee in his big cup of skill :P
@@jonashenriksson2182 Haha yes. Along with two delicious slices of Awesome.
Wow this is the perfect color schem for death guard
You're elevating miniatures from toys to art for me. Thank you, Marco
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agree! this is amazing.
Every time I feel like I'm in a rut with my painting all I need to do is watch one of your videos and I'm inspired to get back to it! Thank you, can't wait to try the Zorn palette!
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Fascinating!!!!! Thank you for bringing real color theory and traditional painting techniques into the hobby! It's a great opportunity to study how color /value work. Hopefully this will drive a new wave of miniature brands to produce single pigment paints and for artists to go back to basics and get their swatch painting on haha
My Kimera's were finally delivered and I'd picked up a basic scale75 artist box and a magenta so this is exactly what I've needed to constrain my palette so I can concentrate on colours. Got a few units of ten or so models each that do need an earthy, modest, medieval wardrobe. By the time they're done I should have learned what I need to blend for a specific set of hues instead of bouncing around and winding up reinventing the wheel for every new trip to the palette.
Great timing, and as ever the quality of the tutoring is founded on insight and supported by masterful brushwork.
As always; WoW!
So amazed at the result from only using those three colors and White. Amazed at Zorn as well. Had to Google him (and I am a swede!!).
Keep up the amazing work and stay healthy @Marco
Easily the best intermediate-advanced miniature painting channel/content on youtube, always excited to watch and learn. I used to only paint armies for wargaming but now i find myself creating new palettes and tones and thinking critically about the sources of light and shadow. My miniatures have never looked better!
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍 Awesome!!! Simply awesome!!! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
That black + yellow making green is mind-blowing. Stellar work, thanks so much for sharing with us!
Thanks Marko ,definitely worth the wait. Absolutely my favorite series by you. Truly a display of both your skill in this craft, and as a teacher.
More please 🙏
Your videos continue to instruct and amaze. The fact that you are showing proper artistic techniques rather than just highlight shade and drybrush is a breath of fresh air. Keep it up. :)
I don't paint minis, but i often watch mini painting videos going on in the background as I'm gaming or doing other computer work. But, with this guys videos I sit at full attention, watching without other stuff going on. Love seeing the evolution of these models going from primed to art.
I am such a huge fan of your style. The way you teach is so great. Thank you my painting has improved 10 fold since finding your channel
You are the best teacher one could have, Marco! You and your videos are precious to me :D
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Never heard about the Zorn palette. Looks great ... need to try this or at least to limit my palettes.
I've watched this video 3 or 4 times now and keep coming back to it. It's such an interesting palette and I'm trying it myself on a couple models. It's pretty tricky to get specific colors and I find myself spending a lot of time mixing paints. But I can see how mastery of this palette is so compelling. Marco makes it look so easy! The speed that he paints this model shows his incredible skill, that's for sure. Thanks for the amazing tutorials!!
“Double the efficiency of the skill acquisition process” Speak maestro!!
Man, that is just amazing! Great video!
As a student and creator of traditional art and a dabbling miniature painter, I truly appreciate your bringing a great understanding of the former to the practice of the latter. Nowhere else can I find instruction and demonstration like this, and it's about time I become a patron to thank you.
😍😍😍 Thanks a million man!!! Really really really appreciated!!!
we want more ZORN palette!!
I want to see a bust or necromunda(like) miniature with this technique, I believe the "mad max" feel is very adequate for this palette
Hey Marco, thank you for doing a Zorn palette video and thank again for doing OSL without the airbrush!
i wasnt looking for a painting video i was looking for information about Kingdom Death but you were i nthe results and im glad i clicked
I learn so much from your videos! I can't wait to try this out on some minis.
Thank you, Marco. That bonework was a lot of the things I needed. The reddish bone is very close to the look of the relic bones. :)
This video has given me a ton of inspiration and I'm super excited to try this out!
fantastico come al solito e d'ispirazione prima di oggi non conoscevo minimamente Zorn; poi prima di vedere il video sono andato a cercare info e una vola capito di cosa si trattava ho guardato il video con almeno qualche nozione in più. Grazie d'avermi ancora una volta aperto la mente ad un nuovo livello di pittura. Sei un Grande!
Another great video. You have got some serious style.
Wow, just wow!
Top come sempre !
Another fantastic video! A lot of the comments are (rightly) raving about your artistic knowledge and skill, but you also deserve mad props for your presentational and editing skills - these are always so engaging and easy to understand. Thank you, and please keep up the good work!
Thanks a million man!!!
Radical!!
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Informative and excellent video. However as always👍👍👍
Brilliant Marco
YES, I've been waiting to see what you can do with the Zorn palette.
And this is only the beginning!!! 😁
So even though I don't foresee myself using this (its just not my preference) it was still impressive to see how far you could push only four colors and the number of different tones you could come up with. As a credit to you, even if the subject of a video isn't something that's necessarily going to change the way I paint or introduce something to my hobby toolbox, they're still interesting to watch and your skill as a paint never disappoints.
Very nice, Marco. I had never heard of this restricted palette before, and it’s certainly very interesting. One thing I find constrains the impression of an OSL, in a lot of cases, is the absence of cast shadows. Most good painters manage the impression of cast light and its scatter and falloff patterns, but there isn’t much talk about the heavy shadows cast by a strong light source onto the figures or the environment of the model. Could you perhaps include this in a future video?
Thanks!!!
Yep we often forget to talk about cast shadows and it's definitely a topic by itself, especially for larger models. Thanks for the idea!!!
love the mixing videos
So good 👌🏼
Hey Marco great tips on painting eyes at 13:44. Just an idea, I think it would be great to have a standalone video about tips on painting them. Painting them isn't easy!
I really have to get one of these kingdom death models. Been on the fence on getting one for a while. Also, I subbed because I just found out I wasn't, even though I've been following your videos for a while now. Greetings from the Netherlands.
This model is from Echos of Death series 2 which it seems was a limited release. You can still buy series 1 though, so I’m definitely gonna use one or all of those models and this tutorial as a template. Keep up the good work man you’re really helping us to raise our game’s.
Sei un mostro sacro, veramente bei video video di altissima qualità. Complimenti!
😁😊😁 Grazie mille!!! 😘
Superb.
Bellissimo Video complimenti Marco!
Grazie!!!
It's like a flashback to art school!
I recognise an italian brother when i hear him! Great job brother, your job is amazing!!!
Absolutely gorgeous work brother. I can't believe it took TH-cam this long to recommend your channel, it's fantastic! ❤️
😍😍😍😍😍 Thanks a million man!!!
Fascinating.
I don't know what else I should say.
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The amount of detail you apply to the eyes is staggering! I'm usually happy just leaving them shaded, or in the case of evil gribbly monsters yellow with a gloss varnish.
Good tip on the sandpaper!
Quindi quando torni a Sligo? Ross.
Great job mate. Man, I know it's just a bit more of projects you juggling than possible, but still - would be really cool to get something about blanshitsu / grimdark, ideally creepy, spooky and so on.
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The brush control in these videos is amazing; I guess that, like other forms of Kung-fu, it is a combination of talent and practice :D
thnx ..great knowledge :}
Great tutorial, Marco. I am going to try a couple of these techniques. They really would have helped on the model I just finished! Oh well...
Thanks a million!!! Don't worry, there's always the next model and the next and next and the next and the next... 😁
This video deserve more views
Nice to see some Swedish culture. If you ever visit here then hit me up and we'll have a ABBA/IKEA/VOLVO evening.
Awesome. It's scary but must be freeing to paint in that style?!
Even belt of metal rings can't hold these hips under control
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Even your final palette is art! O.o
😊😊😊 Thanks man!!!
Fantastic video, thank you! I've been counting my pennies to buy all sorts of specialist colours for my models, but this really makes me want to work with less prepared paints and more mixing.
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Grazie infinite!!!
Marco, as always your videos inspire but also leave me breathless with your ability to blend. I have been an acrylic user for over 3 years since starting my miniature hobby. Tell me, what advice do you have for someone just wanting to go into oils? Your works are like paintings, literal paintings with great contrast and wonderful details. And I always wonder how I too can improve.
I'm going to try this. To be honest I thought it would be oil paints you used!
Loving your videos, I have learned so much about everything from colour theory and different palletes, sketching and airbrushing! Once I get the chance to sit down with a project I can take a bit of time and focus over I am really going to have some fun!
A question though, for the skin on the exposed thigh is that really just the sketch with a transluclent skin tone over the top and the red glaze?
No other paint?
Looks so good! getting a natural look for larger areas of skin has always been a problem and that looks really good and is so striaght forward!
Thanks a million man :)
Oh yeah that's all, not even an extra highlight!
The only extra tone is the yellow of the light in the part facing the lantern
im so happy you are stepping into kingdom death.
What ? No oils ? Really good video as usual !
How epic would it be if you created a diorama featuring all 8 Echoes of Death gals?! This one turned out beautifully!
😍😍😍 That's a great idea! I definitely want to invest more time on the other models and a diorama can be a great way to showcase the whole group... Maybe with a monster/monsters to fight!!!!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM 4 survivors allowed per hunt. So you'll have to do 2 monsters! 😁
@@jonathannmccormick2023 😁😂 now I'm thinking to two dioramas that can stand alone or be joined together to show a big fight on two fronts...
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM one mid fight, one setting the stage for a monster ambush. Few of the gals have more dynamic poses, some more serene like the bard. Gigalion screams ambush to me.
Wow Marco! Your videos are always very inspiring and loaded with tips and tricks! I feel the 20-25min format to also be perfect as well! Really nicely done! How do you feel in general about the scale 75 artist paint?
Thanks a million man!!!
With a gun to the head I would say that I prefer a bit more Kimera, but Scale75 Artists are really amazing
When did you start painting minis?. Your videos are always top notch ;). A specific question - I’m trying to find a way to glaze white on an Eldar Wraithlord, but I find it rather difficult not destroying the Sketch and the BW gradients. Should I take a different approach than glazing because the models body essentially should appear as white?
Hi Marco! Thanks for the inspirational videos as always, I'm keen on trying this limited palette challenge. Which do you think suits best for Cadmium Red: VMC Flat Red or Dark Vermillion? Also is it VMC Black Grey for the Ivory Black? Thanks beforehand
The green shirt is so confusing to me, gotta try some mixing with yellow ochre to figure it out :)
Also I want to say that your style of painting is so satisfying to watch compared to the "recipe" style painters (step 1: paint every leather strap in 'earth tan brown', step 2: paint the ear lobs in 'ear lobe skin' etc).
Oh yeah, the green tones are the most surprising and unexpected!
Thanks a million man 😍 super appreciated!!!
My secret vice is to use Ear Lobe Skin to paint the ankles! Don't tell!
Thank you Marco. Amazing work. Would you generally recommend the Scale 75 Artist Color series for painting W40k Space Marines ? I own a couple of paints but never had any success with them, especially in base coating.
It's a pleasure!!! As I said in their test/review video it depends mostly on how you like to paint. I love to work with extreme transparencies or very thick paints so they perfectly cover one of my main needs.
The quality of the paint itself is extremely high but if it doesn't fit your workflow doesn't really matter
Really wish I owned Kingdom Death but I have so much unpainted shit I can't justify the cost q_q
The only thing I wish you'd done differently is make a darker shadow in the back of the model to reeeeeally push that lantern effect. Still, absolutely fantastic OSL done without an airbrush that still looks natural. Too often (especially on KDM models) you see people overdo the light's color and it loses the illusion of being a filter.
For the love of God... how do you paint holding the mini??? 😂
Fantastic work.
Awesome video. I wonder, Marco, if you have a background in art?
Thanks!!! Nope, actually I have a scientific background. I'm technically a doctor but I never practiced 😅!
Me: oh ok I see .. yellow + black so a kind of ocra
Brain: I read green mate!
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Me: you wut?
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Hi Marco, very interesting video! You talk about using glaze medium here, but do you usually thin your paints, and if so how or with what? I ask because often in your videos it looks like you just mix the basic colours up on the pallette and then paint straight onto the model. Is there a step that we're not seeing off-camera?
Thanks! No there's nothing happening off camera; most of the times I use the colours on the palette thick as they are. When I mix washes and filters I add water and a pinch of glaze medium to add a bit of body
Hey Marco! Love your vids! I have been sticking to the basics of miniature painting (base, wash, highlight) for a while and now i want to try experimenting! The Zorn palette seems like a good way to start. I'm using Scale75 colors and was wondering if Sahara Yellow (ochre), Aldebaran Red (red), Deep Blue (ivory black) are a good starting point for the Zorn palette?
Hi! Thanks a million man!
I just checked the colours; Shara yellow and Aldebaran Red can definitely do the job. Deep blue is way too blue for this warm palette, bette use Flat Black!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thank you! Will try it out =D
Hey Marco! I wanted to dip my feet into mixing colors. I was gonna get a Kimera colors set because of your video on them, but now notice the Scale artist colors in your beginner link and in this video. Do you recommend one over the other? Should I get Kimera for the set, or singular scale 75 tubes... or does it depend entirely on myself and how many different colors I want?
In terms of quality they are very similar, so it's more a matter of personal taste, workflow and availablity. I personally prefer a bit more Kimera because of the limited number of tones, all in a single box but at the end I mix and match constantly the two lines
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thanks!
You know I never noticed how different the skin tones look from the palette to the model. When on the model the color turns more neutral
That's because of the grey scale of the underpainting that optically add a bit of desaturation to a transparent layer!
The skirt ripped because of those gargantuan hips
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SO using Scale75 Carbon Black will introduce more of a blueish hue? It's the only one I trust ;-)
Exactly! It will unbalance a little bit the general harmony because of its cold feel but it's an option for more striking "blue" tones without using the real cold tones
You can always check the tint of your blacks: mix a tiny bit of black with a pool of a white, and it will become very apparent. Most blacks are Ivory blacks, with a blue tint. Others, like Lamp Black or Mars Black, have sepia or reddish tone. It has all kinds of unwanted - or manipulable - effects. For example, Ivory Black is a poor choice to darken Yellow, it turns it green, but the blue tint makes it perfect to color-shift red towards purple when painting red shadows.
Of course, hobby paints like to use all sorts of silly names, so it’s difficult to know which is which. Hence checking the actual hue with white.
Do you have a video on miniatures in black and white only on models?
How do you get your zenithal highlights THAT smooth? Whenever I try to spray white inks via my airbrush (Evolution), they get all splotchy & spotty. Any tips?
Do you use magnification lenses Marco? Which ones if so?
I don't use lenses (for now, lol!)
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Ah lucky! My 44 year old eyes can't see any details without magnification lenses
Tell me if I am getting this wrong but the method used for the skin here was; zenithal highlight -> establish the base color with thin paint (zenithal highlight shows through?) -> glaze with red tones -> clean up on the face with thin flesh tone? I'm still new to painting but I'm not sure how I would achieve such smooth looking skin using the Citadel and Vallejo paints I own. Is this due to how thin his paint is, or is it because its Scale 75 paints?
Sorry if this is kind of a dumb question but how do you thin the paints to various consistencies when using a wet pallete like this? Are you dipping your paintbrush into water off screen?
Oh yeah, I have a cup of simple tap water next to the palette and often I use the water in the corner of the palette itself! I have also a drop of glaze medium on the palette to stabilise the extreme dilution of glazes and washes
Where is the mini from? Great job!
It's from Kingdom Death! From the second Echoes of Death box if I remember correctly
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM Thanks for the reply!
Is kingdom death a good system to get Into?
Also it's nice to see a normal looking female mini.
The game is awesome and really immersive but it's definitely a "lifestyle game" that needs a good investment of time and money!
Mkkay this looks like witchcraft. First off - how are you thinning your paint? When you dip your brush in water how much water do you leave on the brush? Using a small amount of colors is very intriguing but I still feel airbrushing would be quicker - and the paint mixed on the pallet can't be used in an airbrush. Still curious to try this out.
What is the equivalent for these paints for Kimera or Scale75 artist range ?
Any idea what model that is specifically? Or even what bundle it's in? I've done some searching but can't find that exact figure.
zorn translates to anger in german - I figure a limited palette could lead to anger ;)
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A noob question: It seems to me that the very dark shadow lines where two surfaces meet are out of scale and too thick, for example where the armour meets the figure's thigh. Is this a painting technique particular to miniatures because of scale and the distance between the viewer's eyes and the figure? I especially notice this on a lot of miniatures in between muscles. And yet, your figure here looks amazing, correct and natural.
Hey Marco, can you give some info how long you need for your Miniatures / Projects? :)
It depends on the quality and the level of details I need; for display models I usually need one or two weeks of intensive work to get to the point. But I can make an army with a fairly simple scheme in two/three days 😅
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thank you for the answer.
I'm not painting that long and because of job, family and other hobbies I can't(want) put that much effort into every single miniature 😅
That mini took me about 3 evenings:
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do you have any gw or Vallejo paint suggestion for this?
It's really difficult to tell the three precise tones in their huge range of similar colours and silly names 😅
Is there a difference between scale75 artist tubes and the bottles that is worth mentioning? It seems like a large blob on the wetpalette and hard to get accurate mixing ratios if needed.
I have a full video test and review about the Scale75 artist range 😉
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM sorry, didnt see that. i ll go check it out ;)
Would Abbadon Black be a good substitute for Ivory Black? Or is it too Neutral
It's probably a bit too neutral (it should be Carbon Black) to pop as cold note, but it can be used anyway to start practicing with these mixes!
@@MarcoFrisoniNJM thank you!
Glaze medium is something I've never really understood. What's the difference between it and matte medium? Couldn't I make a glaze with matte medium instead?
Could anyone tell me the closest match to these 4 colours if I wanted to buy them in dropper bottles such as vallejo? Thanks.
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