Just the fact that this handheld has a VRR screen and more than 16GB of RAM makes it a real competitor to ROG Ally X, at last. And depending on how it performs compared to Asus' console, I'd pay $100 more for it.
@@overoula Seems like the Claw 8 may have a slight performance advantage over the Ally X as well as the same large battery, but the larger VRR screen is a huge plus. 7 inches for a handheld seems too small to me these days, especially since I have a Legion Go.
1k for this isn’t really a good price point to me. 200-300 more depending on sales and the X has been 700 for the 1tb model several times last few months. Great, the drivers will be faster, direct from Intel instead of the modified drivers for the Z1e but also AMDs drivers have been around longer with a better track record. Buying it based off of hope, I’d prefer to wait.
I like the rate of how much these handhelds are improving. The price is not too bad the 8 Ai+ is $900, so about $100 more than the ROG Ally X and the 7 AI+ is the same price at $799, with better specs. Obviously not as cheap as the steam deck considering it is $650 for a similar storage option, but if you are considering buying this you wouldn't care too much about the deck.
@@PixelatedWolf2077 which rog do you have? i had the og ally and felt the sticks were too losse but the x sticks are fine to me . do you have this claw or the prev one ?
@@gcforreal I've got the original claw and I plan on getting the new one, the sticks on the Claw are looser than my GameSir G7 but they both have Hall effect. I didn't buy ROG because of their warranty issues and because they didn't have Hall effect sticks
I agree over 10 hours of gaming on a handheld like the upcoming claw 8 AI+ is a game changer. I Think the 82Whr Battery is really effective & if it can go upto 10 hours then it shows how effecient it is
I wonder why he didn't include the price in the video ? I believe this is a crucial information that is important to mention. It costs $900 USD if anyone was wondering.
Because the average person is less likely to click the links associated with the video if you know the price. I've worked in a marketing department for years and rarely do we attach pricing with our email or video advertising. You want a curious customer to click the link for affiliate revenue or upselling opportunities.
The MSI Claw 8 AI+ with that huge screen and insane power? I'm already dreaming of gaming on this thing during my next trip. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
Absolutely, this device is totally for those who love portable gaming while travelling. Bigger screen (8 inches), 32 GB of RAM its totally a powerful gaming device. I guess your next trip is going to be next-level gaming.
It wouldn’t make it cheaper whatsoever. Going from 1200p to 1080p is just an aspect ratio change that wouldn’t be barely any cheaper. It’s just that the chips are expensive on their own.
If I didn't already have the OG Ally Z1X, I would totally want to get this because of how good it looks. But, my Z1X is still totally fine for me, so I'm staying on it
Yup, color is stunning, 80 whr of battery backup and also dual Thunderbolt 4 ports. MSI really nailed it, Can't wait see the performance of this device.
Can you test to see if Indiana Jones & the Great Circle will load and play on this? It will be slow, probably unplayable, but it's a good new benchmark to see what's possible on a system.
I quite doubt we’ll see something from Asus sadly. In the end the Ally X is newer, less than 6 months from release during CES and they still want to get some sales up. Besides, Asus has their Flow series that’ll get the new version and that got leaked, yet absolutely nothing about a Z2 extreme device. Hopefully I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
Yup. No need a home consoles, pc desktop & laptop anymore for gaming. PC handhelds & Console handhelds are the future. Coming Rog Ally 2, Legion Go 2, Steam Deck 2 & Claw 2 vs Switch 2, PSP 2 & Xbox handheld 👍🤤
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522 no this is it paired with moonshine streaming high demand games from desktop over 5g at home with low latency and 120 fps is insane
Yo ETA PRIME! This hands-on review was dope! 🙌 That screen’s got my jaw on the floor; I'm vibing with that 120Hz refresh rate! Perfect for those intense gaming sessions, right? 📺💥 And the battery life? You're telling me I could binge-watch AND game for hours? Sign me up! But for real, that D-pad situation is a bit sus. We need our controls to be on point for those epic battles! ⚔️💔 But overall, it looks like MSI is onto something awesome - just needs a lil' TLC. Keep it coming, fam! 🔥✌️
These handheld gaming pcs getting better. We went from gaming handheld pcs being a pricey $1k+ gimmicks with bad specs to using top of the line APU chips that feature the newest tech in GPUs/CPUs plus being more affordable. The MSI claw 2nd gen looks beautiful wouldn't surprise me if 3rd gen MSI claw somehow runs games better as intel fixes drivers issues on their GPUs.
Handhelds obviously aren’t about max performance for your money. If that were the case then why would anyone buy a Steam Deck OLED instead of a PS5 Pro?
@@kewa_design Ok, I only find the old Claw on amazon and that is 10800SEK or 938 Euro. (which is twice as much as the local retailer here takes for the same device with the ultra 7, and 1TB)
got my msi laptop gf65 thin model since year 2019, yep! the laptop still work and good conditon, and for me MSI is the best when it comes to quality and durability. i guarantee this handled gaming is way better too! looking forward to the other version in the future..
LPDDR5X finally almost able to get to what desktop RAM could hit over a year ago. This is genuinely impressive because LPDDR5X has much tighter power constraints, while my 48GB of DDR5 8800 might have been using ~8w per stick i bet this LPDDR5X is using under 5W total
Of note, i am 99% sure this is a chip limitation My 5700G can go to 2500 on everything But my 8700G can only go to 2200 on UCLK and 2400 on FCLK so i am stuck at 4400 for MCLK otherwise i'd be running at some weird non-divisible frequency between MCLK and UCLK(the memory controller) IIRC the MCLK would go up to 5000 if i dropped UCLK down to 1250 and ran it in 2:1 and this was only a 4000Mhz/8000MT/s memory kit
@@turbo1997hsm life is like this brother. Your 1400$ is like 177,000 ETB in here. And that is a life changing money. Lol your 1 month rent can help me start my dream.
Not a fan of the bottom chin/bezel (my only real gripe with it from what I can see) but this is a VERY competitive machine and I hope it does well because it will only force improvements on the other manufacturers. Good job to everyone involved with this project.
The killer application is that when it is at 8W it can still runs game for over 30 FPS!! That will extend batter life longer than any other windows handheld on the market I guess?
I’m really looking forward to this I pre ordered it because of your video I usually don’t care for intel because it’s not very compatible with steam Os but this is really looking promising
@@liamcollinson5695This kind of products aren’t for average people. In other words, it’s a niche market, and price tag might not that be big concerns for those who really need a handheld instead of a PC.
Does animated wall paper no long drain battery like crazy? I see a ton people running it on handhelds and phones like battery life is no longer the biggest concern with portable devices... seems strange, almost like misdirection..
Kudos to MSI for the drastic improvement with their new Claw 8+. Intel also did a good job with Lunar Lake to make it competitive with Phoenix. Only issues is that Strix Point with its soon to launch z2 Extreme should retake the overall Crown, but atleast Intel is in the game now. Msi hit all the right marks with this handheld, with solid 8' screen size, ideal resolution of 1200p with it's 16:10 aspect ratio, 120hz VRR, helping to standardize 80wh batteries which is CRUCIAL, breaking the chains of the insufficient 16gb ram by providing a hefty 32gb ram, and having decent 1tb storage ssd. The main and only thing holding it back is the fair but still expensive $900 price point. At $800 this probably would have been a home run. No doubt sales though will make it more appealing. Now the ball is in the court of the Legion Go 2 (which also launches next month) and the eventual Ally X successor to complete the Big 3 next gen handhelds, and see which comes out on top.
@@EmergencyChannel Sadly it won't though. There will be no major Cpu releases until 2026 (with zen 6) and no major Gpu efficiency and performance until 2026 (Udna 1 which comes after Rdna 4) so that is probably the time Valve will have a custom chip based on those architectures made. They are also fine with having a massive 4.5 year life cycle between releases of the Steam Deck (Feb 2022 was steam deck release date, and I'd estimate 2nd half of 2026 for Steam Deck 2 based on the rumors of when zen 6 and Unda 1 are coming).
@@seppeseppe-jq7nr Yup I know. Have to wait almost two full years until the next Steam Deck releases. Alternatively one should jump on a different handheld this January, such as the Msi Claw 8 based on Lunar Lake, or any of the Strix Point based ones such as the upcoming Legion Go 2 Oled with the Z2 Extreme ( which I'm probably going for), since there won't be any new architectures till probably mid 2026, so no Handheld that is actually more powerful.
It might be fun to see the improvement you would get with an external GPU and display, hooked up to an Intel Arc B580 through the Thunderbolt 4 port. I would think that they would play nice together.
Watching from my large screen 4K TV, VRR makes it look incredibly beautiful and gliding in 1200p at 40fps than in 800p at 80fps. Reminds me of my friend’s lower spec Voodoo playing better than my higher spec GForce. Been looking for that gliding magic since forever since we can’t figure out why.
Oh yeah that cyberpunk performance is impressive, congrats msi, on the second try you got it right. Pretty sad that the first iteration was such a letdown though, people that bought it are certainly sour on msi & intel now. Also yeah trackpads wouldve been good. I also like the decks 4 back buttons, allows me to even play mmos with tons of buttons because you can double-map the skill bars. Oh, and name of the wallpaper engine wallpaper from 5min on?
I wish you would have listed the performance of the Z1E as a comparison with the same settings while you were doing the gaming benchmarks. Hard to remember all the numbers.
A bit huge for my liking but glad to see it seems to be doing thing so much better than the Claw 1. To me, when it comes to screens they only need to get so big on a handheld, if you want a bigger screen experience just dock it to a TV or monitor.
I just wish the screen was a bit brighter. Steam Deck OLED is 600 nits and while its cool for low light environments, i find my self constantly wanting to turn up the brightness in brighter environments. But looks like a beast nevertheless
It looks like the interior of a 2008 Nissan Altima
Needs more cigarette.
LMAO
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Lol
Congrats to MSI and Intel, they've really redeemed themselves; this is a huge improvement over the Claw 1.
Even the claw 1 got sw upgrades which made it really good. ☮️
No, not for $900
@@Corrosion37 That's not bad for a powerful handheld gaming device. It's better than the Steam Deck OLED. OneXPlayer X1 Pro is insane!
@@Corrosion37it is an improvement, regardless of price lol. The price is because this chip set hasn't been put in any other handheld yet
@@Corrosion37 It's literally a computer with a screen, why are people surprised they're expensive....
he wants his PCs smaller and his handhelds bigger.
It's a strange paradox indeed
Can relate
Bro just needs a laptop
As do I, as does the whole world lmao. Smaller computers with more power and efficiency are what I hope the world produces in terms of tech
@@RobertMayfairNope
Just mind boggling CP2077 at high settings on a handheld.. we are living the good life now.
CP2077 is 4 years old now
@@julianojosoa2197 still tough to run...it's the new Crysis! :D
Just the fact that this handheld has a VRR screen and more than 16GB of RAM makes it a real competitor to ROG Ally X, at last. And depending on how it performs compared to Asus' console, I'd pay $100 more for it.
All of these handhelds should have a large battery option like this one and the Ally X. That's a must in my opinion.
the only competitor to ally x will be the one with better battery and same perfomance
@@overoula Seems like the Claw 8 may have a slight performance advantage over the Ally X as well as the same large battery, but the larger VRR screen is a huge plus. 7 inches for a handheld seems too small to me these days, especially since I have a Legion Go.
At 999 dollars you really dreaming this had any chances 😂.
1k for this isn’t really a good price point to me. 200-300 more depending on sales and the X has been 700 for the 1tb model several times last few months. Great, the drivers will be faster, direct from Intel instead of the modified drivers for the Z1e but also AMDs drivers have been around longer with a better track record. Buying it based off of hope, I’d prefer to wait.
I like the rate of how much these handhelds are improving. The price is not too bad the 8 Ai+ is $900, so about $100 more than the ROG Ally X and the 7 AI+ is the same price at $799, with better specs. Obviously not as cheap as the steam deck considering it is $650 for a similar storage option, but if you are considering buying this you wouldn't care too much about the deck.
Rog is better.
@@Media4EverydayNah, it's worse especially because it's sticks can easily go out
@@PixelatedWolf2077 which rog do you have? i had the og ally and felt the sticks were too losse but the x sticks are fine to me . do you have this claw or the prev one ?
@@gcforreal I've got the original claw and I plan on getting the new one, the sticks on the Claw are looser than my GameSir G7 but they both have Hall effect. I didn't buy ROG because of their warranty issues and because they didn't have Hall effect sticks
18 hrs of TH-cam playback is actually pretty damn impressive. This level of battery life would come in useful for a long road trip.
gaming over 10 hour is crazy on handheld like this
I agree over 10 hours of gaming on a handheld like the upcoming claw 8 AI+ is a game changer. I Think the 82Whr Battery is really effective & if it can go upto 10 hours then it shows how effecient it is
I wonder why he didn't include the price in the video ? I believe this is a crucial information that is important to mention. It costs $900 USD if anyone was wondering.
Because the average person is less likely to click the links associated with the video if you know the price. I've worked in a marketing department for years and rarely do we attach pricing with our email or video advertising. You want a curious customer to click the link for affiliate revenue or upselling opportunities.
Or you can get the 512gb storage MSI Claw 7 for $800
@@tubby_1278 why would you spend 800.00 on hot garbage?
Who would though that in the end of 2024 it will be Intel that actually gave us something interesting for iGPU and dGPU market
The MSI Claw 8 AI+ with that huge screen and insane power? I'm already dreaming of gaming on this thing during my next trip. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
Absolutely, this device is totally for those who love portable gaming while travelling. Bigger screen (8 inches), 32 GB of RAM its totally a powerful gaming device. I guess your next trip is going to be next-level gaming.
MSI is keeping the handheld on track. Keep up the great work!
Not available at Best Buy, but I scored one, first batch from Amazon. Just waiting now.... "patiently".
$900 is crazy though. They should have used a 1080p display and make it cheaper.
It wouldn’t make it cheaper whatsoever. Going from 1200p to 1080p is just an aspect ratio change that wouldn’t be barely any cheaper. It’s just that the chips are expensive on their own.
True 😅
it effectively is 1080p but in a 16:10 aspect ratio, so 1200p. the screen is likely pretty cheep compared to the rest of the hardware
At $900 this would get slaughtered by the competition
900 is not that crazy considering the other competitors with similar or worse specs cost 1k plus
It would be perfect if someone didn't forgot to add trackpads, as there was a ton of space for them.
I feel you, man. Like, strategy games exist, and controller-for-mouse is... y'know.
Huge Battery, Big Screen, More Power, can't wait to have it!
THOSE SPEAKERS
Z2 is worth waiting for...
@@v2xerxes580 do we know when we would expect it?
@@mashferdista8741 very soon. Legion go s and go 2 have fully leaked, q1 25
Mild performance improvement. Nothing to big.
@@MN0VV4 I'm still indecisive as to what to buy. Wait for Ayaneo or MSI or just get the Rog Ally X. I can delay my decision till Feb.
This! I’m not gonna get this. If it came out last year then I may have but now there’s no reason.
This looks like an amazing all rounder! Nice job, msi!
With its large screen, the visuals are incredibly immersive, making games look more dynamic and real.
I already got the first-gen and it's really not that bad (besides battery life). Glad to see new version coming with way bigger battery!
You can tell by the tone of his voice and the extra care put into this video's production values that ETA really likes this "Claw 2".
This version with bigger battery and new color look amazing ! 🤩
Thats a beautiful machine 😍
@@josesabat1710 im considering getting one. I already own thr legion go
I’ve been following the Claw handheld series closely and am really looking forward to the enhanced performance brought by the larger battery capacity!
If I didn't already have the OG Ally Z1X, I would totally want to get this because of how good it looks. But, my Z1X is still totally fine for me, so I'm staying on it
Love Claw 8 color!!! Better battery and 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports make it even better!
Yup, color is stunning, 80 whr of battery backup and also dual Thunderbolt 4 ports. MSI really nailed it, Can't wait see the performance of this device.
Can you test to see if Indiana Jones & the Great Circle will load and play on this? It will be slow, probably unplayable, but it's a good new benchmark to see what's possible on a system.
that game is already playable at an ok fps on the ally x and even runs a bit slower on low settings on the steam deck
Hope to see at CES Valve confirming not only Lenovo and Asus, but also MSI to use Steam OS on their future handhelds
I quite doubt we’ll see something from Asus sadly. In the end the Ally X is newer, less than 6 months from release during CES and they still want to get some sales up. Besides, Asus has their Flow series that’ll get the new version and that got leaked, yet absolutely nothing about a Z2 extreme device. Hopefully I’m wrong, but I doubt it.
@@Sumire9287 I do really hope a new versión of the Z13 or X13/16 comes out. Otherwise, I will wait until we get the Lenovo Legion Go.
@JULIANTOUCH a new Z13 does in fact come 😉. Nothing for the X13/16 so far
Yup. No need a home consoles, pc desktop & laptop anymore for gaming. PC handhelds & Console handhelds are the future. Coming Rog Ally 2, Legion Go 2, Steam Deck 2 & Claw 2 vs Switch 2, PSP 2 & Xbox handheld 👍🤤
We are slowing getting to peak handhelds guys
@@blackpanthertchallalem8522 no this is it paired with moonshine streaming high demand games from desktop over 5g at home with low latency and 120 fps is insane
Yo ETA PRIME! This hands-on review was dope! 🙌 That screen’s got my jaw on the floor; I'm vibing with that 120Hz refresh rate! Perfect for those intense gaming sessions, right? 📺💥 And the battery life? You're telling me I could binge-watch AND game for hours? Sign me up! But for real, that D-pad situation is a bit sus. We need our controls to be on point for those epic battles! ⚔️💔 But overall, it looks like MSI is onto something awesome - just needs a lil' TLC. Keep it coming, fam! 🔥✌️
I'd like to see the Xe2 based frame generation being tested on this device. Having AI based upscaling is already nice feature.
8" with a big battery is perfect for handheld😍
No oled screen at this price...
Yeah man, What a dissapoint, The F1 Pro Have Oled But cost to much, and Zotac Zone it's something Ugly jeje
Would've cost $1000+
OLED + VRR = VRR Flicker, no thanks
My lg oled c3 doesnt have any flickering with vrr@@kenshisanki
Niceww
that's such a big upgrade from gen1. Battery, screen size, performance. now it's just down to availability
Touching base on the D Pad was gold. Thanks
I might get this if we don't get an OLED handheld by March
Looking forward to this 8” handheld and its longer battery life!
What a game changer, the gaming scenario looks awesome on that 8" panel!
No doubt this device is game changer. A bigger screen would give a much better gaming experience
The two Thunderbolt 4 ports are super handy
Love the bigger 8-inch screen!! Time to get myself a new handheld😍
This time Imma give MSI a thumbs up for this upgrade. I should've got it as my xmas gift....
8" model equipped with powerful battery is great for carrying around
These handheld gaming pcs getting better. We went from gaming handheld pcs being a pricey $1k+ gimmicks with bad specs to using top of the line APU chips that feature the newest tech in GPUs/CPUs plus being more affordable. The MSI claw 2nd gen looks beautiful wouldn't surprise me if 3rd gen MSI claw somehow runs games better as intel fixes drivers issues on their GPUs.
screen quality is amazing! 8" is just the perfect size for me!
This will probably be around $1100 Euro here in northern Europe. That gives you a nice PC with a 4070 gpu.
Handhelds obviously aren’t about max performance for your money. If that were the case then why would anyone buy a Steam Deck OLED instead of a PS5 Pro?
it's available for 999€ at Amazon
@@graveyarddead753 My steamdeck 512GB LCD was 360 Euro new.
@@kewa_design Ok, I only find the old Claw on amazon and that is 10800SEK or 938 Euro. (which is twice as much as the local retailer here takes for the same device with the ultra 7, and 1TB)
just buy both?
Two Thunderbolt 4s are very convenient!! You can connect an external screen and charge them at the same time!
Good damn it is much better now
Bigger screen and longer battery work😮 Love the two TB4 are reallly good for me
2 Thunderbolt 4 port, great job MSI, this is a game changer for people wanna play but do some serious work during travel.
got my msi laptop gf65 thin model since year 2019, yep! the laptop still work and good conditon, and for me MSI is the best when it comes to quality and durability. i guarantee this handled gaming is way better too! looking forward to the other version in the future..
How does it compare to AI 9 HX 370 APU?
2 Thunderbolt 4 is very convenient, can be charged and can be connected to an external screen.
LPDDR5X finally almost able to get to what desktop RAM could hit over a year ago.
This is genuinely impressive because LPDDR5X has much tighter power constraints, while my 48GB of DDR5 8800 might have been using ~8w per stick i bet this LPDDR5X is using under 5W total
Of note, i am 99% sure this is a chip limitation
My 5700G can go to 2500 on everything
But my 8700G can only go to 2200 on UCLK and 2400 on FCLK so i am stuck at 4400 for MCLK otherwise i'd be running at some weird non-divisible frequency between MCLK and UCLK(the memory controller)
IIRC the MCLK would go up to 5000 if i dropped UCLK down to 1250 and ran it in 2:1 and this was only a 4000Mhz/8000MT/s memory kit
It seems like it handles AAA titles really well-that's what matters most to me. The screen is definitely a nice bonus!
the back looks like a cheap graphics card but i love the glowing abxy buttons 🙏
Yes I'm a sucker for RGB and I love how this looks
We need a direct comparison of this one with the ally x please.
Fps at similar settings and battery life mainly.
Battery life is amazing! nice job!
I love it ! Soo many options.
I hope one day to afford this, its's sad that price of this is like 1 year of rent price for my family.
@@elroe_e where do you live? I may move there if $900 pays for a year’s worth of rent. My monthly property tax is more than 10 times that amount. :(
@BSinNYC I live in Ethiopia.
Woah my rent was $1400 a month for an apartment. Still wasn't nice enough because my car got stolen there.
@@turbo1997hsm life is like this brother. Your 1400$ is like 177,000 ETB in here. And that is a life changing money. Lol your 1 month rent can help me start my dream.
Not a fan of the bottom chin/bezel (my only real gripe with it from what I can see) but this is a VERY competitive machine and I hope it does well because it will only force improvements on the other manufacturers. Good job to everyone involved with this project.
The killer application is that when it is at 8W it can still runs game for over 30 FPS!! That will extend batter life longer than any other windows handheld on the market I guess?
facts 🎉
I want to see an IN DEPTH comparison to the ROG Ally X, running Black ops 6
what a nice upgrade! amazing job from msi and intel
like this new color and 8" panel,. Even it's bit heavier than ally, I still prefer to get this claw 8.
Good video whoop I can’t wait
Would love to see a video of this thing hooked up to a egpu. Seems like the cpu has some serious power
I’m really looking forward to this I pre ordered it because of your video I usually don’t care for intel because it’s not very compatible with steam Os but this is really looking promising
This is actually pretty good for its price!
More power is always good but i feel like these really need to be cheaper before they actually become mainstream
@@liamcollinson5695This kind of products aren’t for average people. In other words, it’s a niche market, and price tag might not that be big concerns for those who really need a handheld instead of a PC.
Nice, 80w, vrr, 2xusb 4, 32gb, good perf but no touchpads :(.
That color reminds me of my old 99 Blazer’s interior 😅
I just love the way you talk (are you a part-time rapper, btw, lol?)
🤣🤣 He does have a unique sound.
The only reason why I watch his channel is because of his soothing voice
Does animated wall paper no long drain battery like crazy? I see a ton people running it on handhelds and phones like battery life is no longer the biggest concern with portable devices... seems strange, almost like misdirection..
Yep. Just a gimmick, used for few days and uninstalled it.
How are 1% lows? Heard bad thing about lunar lake in that regard
Kudos to MSI for the drastic improvement with their new Claw 8+. Intel also did a good job with Lunar Lake to make it competitive with Phoenix. Only issues is that Strix Point with its soon to launch z2 Extreme should retake the overall Crown, but atleast Intel is in the game now. Msi hit all the right marks with this handheld, with solid 8' screen size, ideal resolution of 1200p with it's 16:10 aspect ratio, 120hz VRR, helping to standardize 80wh batteries which is CRUCIAL, breaking the chains of the insufficient 16gb ram by providing a hefty 32gb ram, and having decent 1tb storage ssd. The main and only thing holding it back is the fair but still expensive $900 price point. At $800 this probably would have been a home run. No doubt sales though will make it more appealing. Now the ball is in the court of the Legion Go 2 (which also launches next month) and the eventual Ally X successor to complete the Big 3 next gen handhelds, and see which comes out on top.
Steam Deck 2 needs to come soon!
Steam deck is realy outdated for new normal games 😢😢😢
@@EmergencyChannel Sadly it won't though. There will be no major Cpu releases until 2026 (with zen 6) and no major Gpu efficiency and performance until 2026 (Udna 1 which comes after Rdna 4) so that is probably the time Valve will have a custom chip based on those architectures made. They are also fine with having a massive 4.5 year life cycle between releases of the Steam Deck (Feb 2022 was steam deck release date, and I'd estimate 2nd half of 2026 for Steam Deck 2 based on the rumors of when zen 6 and Unda 1 are coming).
@@seppeseppe-jq7nr Yup I know. Have to wait almost two full years until the next Steam Deck releases. Alternatively one should jump on a different handheld this January, such as the Msi Claw 8 based on Lunar Lake, or any of the Strix Point based ones such as the upcoming Legion Go 2 Oled with the Z2 Extreme ( which I'm probably going for), since there won't be any new architectures till probably mid 2026, so no Handheld that is actually more powerful.
I just bought my Rog ally X and I'm happy. Although the original Rog ally was more comfortable
Z2 Extreme are the real Z2. The Z2 is basically a Z1.5.
It might be fun to see the improvement you would get with an external GPU and display, hooked up to an Intel Arc B580 through the Thunderbolt 4 port. I would think that they would play nice together.
Why not do benchmarks comparisons Vs ally x in games rather than synthetic benchmarks...
Looks great but that price wow
Watching from my large screen 4K TV, VRR makes it look incredibly beautiful and gliding in 1200p at 40fps than in 800p at 80fps. Reminds me of my friend’s lower spec Voodoo playing better than my higher spec GForce. Been looking for that gliding magic since forever since we can’t figure out why.
No OLED screen, legion 2 out soon?
I hated the original allys sticks because they were too lose. Do these feel the same? It's a deal breaker for me
That Animated photo from where plz , its so gorgeous 🤩
I would like to know if you can boost the performance by choosing to raise the GPU memory. or is that option not available yet?
I wonder how well this would do with the new indiana jones game. also would be cool to see the performance on a docked egpu
ETA, can you try to run Bazzite on it?
Oh yeah that cyberpunk performance is impressive, congrats msi, on the second try you got it right.
Pretty sad that the first iteration was such a letdown though, people that bought it are certainly sour on msi & intel now.
Also yeah trackpads wouldve been good.
I also like the decks 4 back buttons, allows me to even play mmos with tons of buttons because you can double-map the skill bars.
Oh, and name of the wallpaper engine wallpaper from 5min on?
any performance comparison with ROG ALLY X ?
I hope msi continues the claw with an 8inch + a big battery....when my AokZoe A1pro dies on me, I'll get the claw...eventually
Hello can I plug external gpu? Asrock Arc A770 Phantom Gaming OC 16GB
No, Arc GPUs do not function in external GPU docks... at all.
I wish you would have listed the performance of the Z1E as a comparison with the same settings while you were doing the gaming benchmarks. Hard to remember all the numbers.
He did... he listed (therefore compared) the Z1E's benchmarks every time he showed the new 8AI Claw's benchmarks.
@@sofaking1180 The gaming benchmarks.... Not the synthetic.
You've had the redmagic 10 pro longer than this, where is the video, and why don't you link the winlator driver you used in the asus rog phone??
Looks good, but definitely gonna wait what Lenovo shows on CES. I don't trust intel drivers......
Maybe I missed it in the video, but will this be compatible with the steam interface ?
A bit huge for my liking but glad to see it seems to be doing thing so much better than the Claw 1. To me, when it comes to screens they only need to get so big on a handheld, if you want a bigger screen experience just dock it to a TV or monitor.
I just wish the screen was a bit brighter. Steam Deck OLED is 600 nits and while its cool for low light environments, i find my self constantly wanting to turn up the brightness in brighter environments. But looks like a beast nevertheless
can we bazzite on this?
Is it possible to turn off the vignette in Cyberpunk? Every time I watch ETAP play it, that annoys me.