Is Alienware's NEW Gaming Pre-Built Less Terrible?
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- I bought the cheapest configuration of the new Alienware Gaming Pre-Built and it had some crazy surprises in store.
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Interestingly, the inside of this Alienware is the same as the Dell XPS. This system is basically a huge plastic XPS with better airflow and a robot vagina.
"Robot vagina" lol
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I thoroughly enjoy watching you videos. You hyperbolic Polish dude. ;)
So - what PC should I buy. Lightroom, photoshop, video production, high graphic gaming......
Hey you didn't answer my question in my last 2 comments but how much and big is the monitor you use in the video?
Wheeeeew! I was getting worried that you were kidnapped by someone on Craigslist selling a 3080ti for $300 behind a 7 - 11 or something. Glad you're back!!
I was trapped in someone’s basement for like a week and a half. Quite the experience, but I’m glad it’s over now. 😂
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Sorry about that, but I did give you plenty of nice sammiches and a blackberry to help you pass the time.
@@indridcold2840 But you DIDN'T give him a 3080ti... shame on you
@@IdealMan21
It's even worse than you think, I kept him in my basement until he "gifted" me *HIS* 3080Ti. I'm a monster 🤷♂️
It puts the thermal paste on its skin or it gets the hose again!
I remember when Aienware was such a premium product (early 2000’s) and I always wanted one… oh how the mighty have fallen…
Same since forever tbh.
We just have better options these days (or should have)
@@loowick4074 Well before Dell bought them they were halfway decent, just expensive. But now? No. Just say No...
Was thinking the same. Then DELL bought them out and everyone started calling it Dellienware and fanbois were like "They'll stay awesome, they're not gonna fall just because DELL bought them out, this is a good thing!"
It was only ever classed as a premium machine by price, not by those that could build their own equivalent for half the price.
They fell when they got bought up by Dell.
Such a shame what dell has done to Alienware. I used to work for Alienware, back when it was Alienware owned by the original group of friends. They used to hate Dell, and all the b.s. Dell branded parts. Alienware back then used to pride it's self on using the best (or at least giving you the option) to have the best OE parts on the market. Mr Dell himself lied to all of us, and said he wouldn't change anything about how Alienware ran its operation, and was only going to give the finical backing to keep growing. Then a year later he fired like 98% of the Alienware team and sent the production to China. Now you get this crap. Please do not buy anything made by Dell or Alienware. They ONLY care about maximizing profits and making investors happy. They do not care about you, or gamers, they just want your money.
No way! You use to work for Alienware? I’m sorry to hear what happened. I can’t believe they just fired everyone like that, really sucks.
They really are only interested in one thing, profit margins.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yes when they finally "let me go" they handed me a paper explaining how the move would save them millions and make the investors happy. I probably still got it someplace in my house. The original Alienware was a great place to work, I was with them 10 years, and probably still would be if they didn't sell it. It was cool to see a small company full of real gamers, grow and grow and grow. It was one of the few places I've worked that felt more like a family, then a job and I'll forever miss it. Origin PC which I'm sure you heard of, was opened by a former Alienware employee, some of the original staff went to work for them. They try to keep the spirit of what Alienware used to be, alive.
@@aaronwlkr It’s awesome to hear that you guys had such I good thing going. I’m sorry to hear that Dell destroyed that. I’ll definitely go check out an Origin system, I didn’t realize it was started by an Alienware guy.
It’s wild that Dell was just like “Soz, gotta drive dat profit” as a reading for firing all of you. That’s a pretty huge dick move.
The whole story sounds so jewy
@@user-rf3hf4qp2y ... What? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
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I swear these prebuilts are the same thing just in different bodies
That's like saying that Madonna in the 90's is the same thing as Madonna in the 80's: They both suck, and it's hard to tell which one was worse.
Funny Fact, Dell promised to make a E-waste less Laptop.
Yet they still pull this shit for desktops.
When their original dell desktops could easily be transferred to a standard ATX case
They just see who can glue the most plastic crap to it. 😂
@@darknessblades *looks at my old optiplex's proprietary front panel connection*
Yeeeeah...about that
There are some nice prebuilts out there asus g15dk is a prebuilt I bought it has a ryzen 7 5800x cooled by a towercooler and the graphics card is an 3070 it has an 500gb nvme and 4 tb hdd which I installed my self and last but not least it has two 8 gb ram sticks which are in dual channel. The power supply is a greatwall which I made some research on and according to google and a couple off forums some corsair power supplys are rebranded greatwalls all this I got for 1800$ which in todays market is quite nice I would say
My temps, if someone is interested were the only real problem I had with it besides the nvme being too small there fore I bought a 4tb hdd but I undervolted the cpu and changed some ppt tdc values runing at full load gaming I get around 60degrees celsius keep in mind it has no intake fans but okay airflow
Dell: Same metal chassis since 1998
Always love seeing that single channel memory, next to a cooler that I wouldn't pair with a Celeron... ULTIMATE GAMING!
a Celeron D from 2005 maybe.
That would be good for a Celeron though, I’ve had an i3 540 that has a stock cooler and it runs around 30°C normal temperatures load. You won’t be doing something intensive in a Celeron. It’s a perfect pairing to me! Balance out costs.
By law, you have to be "done dirty" by Dell when you order a PC from them at this point
I think it’s part of their service to be honest.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Did they get you with the monthly tech support scam too?
Dell more like dell-ete the fucking company
At least you get some standard power supply and motherboards with pretty much anything other than dell prebuilt systems for about the same price just in case you wanna upgrade the cooler and the cpu down the line... A prebuilt is almost never a good deal. I'd very much appreciate at least if the prebuilt systems with somewhat high end graphics cards in them were sold for like 150 dollars more and came with a decent motherboard and a decent power supply. But it's generally a motherboard that will throttle the top end cpu and a psu that will throttle almost any high power unit upgrade... That to me is just a shame because most of these units are customizable prior to your order.
It's weird in South Africa our Dell customer service is outstanding. Probably not the same worldwide.
Alienware stuff are like reverse sleeper builds. Sexy on the outside, ugly on the inside.
Hahaha this is so true.
A generic dell case with a bunch of plastic stuck to it.
Not even sexy outside. Its unique i guess but its like a ricer
@@HorsepowerGarageVideos perfectly accurate
ricer computer
About 20 years ago I bought my very first computer from Dell and they did the exact same thing! They claimed I'd cancelled it, but when I asked why I was never refunded my money for my "cancelled" order they had no explanation.
I found your note on the chassis at 2:30 particularly insightful. It gave me better perspective on Dell-Alienware's design choices.
Just like the right to repair, OEM PC builders should be stopped from using proprietary stuff that they charge x2 to replace. This just contributes to E-waste as the upgrade options are so limited. Would never give Dell my money.
Good video 😁
What's even dumber is that they USED to use standard parts, and slowly make them more and more proprietary over time
I am with you. I will only ever give NZXT or Origin my money for pre-built saying they ONLY use standard PC parts. I'm sure there are others but those are the two that I know of the best.
it must really the replacement fees and prebuild tax they make profit on. Why design and order specially manufactured parts, when there is a 40 year old standard that would cost them less.
@@HappyBeezerStudios It is to force you to buy a new PC rather than upgrade & to try to force you to buy from them again = massive E-waste
i might give dell $2 if they were hungry an sleeping on the street
If the PSU and motherboard was standard, I'd honestly recommend this OEM gaming machine with proper RAM of course. They improved air flow and improved case space. Ugh... Damn shame.
Yeah it's a shame about the PSU but to be fair their platinum 750w is likely quite good. What Dell appears to have done here is standardize across the XPX/Alienware line so no more standard psu and just the little guy we see in the older (and newer xps) and their server line. wasn't expecting a standard mb tho..
@@notlNSIGHT It‘s just pissing me off that they are doing this easy to repair Laptop stuff now to limit E-Waste, but are creating a ton more with this shit… All just marketing again…
It doesn't matter, because it is still mid 2000 propietary and overenginered office case for 1250$ overpriced PC
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10:45 you do have to give props to dell for the anti sag gpu holder, i wish more cases had something like that packed in.
i wonder what GPU's are compatible with it.
6:20 also it looks like you can put another fan if you had the right bracket.
Yeah $0.05 plastic holder, well done Dell. Damn the Dell bar is Loooooooooow.
@@fracturedlife1393 It’s just giving credit where’s its due. Dell isn’t necessarily great - but not many cases offer anti sag brackets, let alone mass produced prebuilt manufacturers.
the fact that they include it for that tiny RX 5300 though is hilarious. It's so unnecessary in that configuration.
@@Insecurity119 the bracket is most likely due to shipping.
the power supply will support the gfx card.
unfortunately
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I remember when dell bought alienware they sent an email to alienware customers assuring us that they wouldn't change how alienware does it's builds. One of the best computer I ever owned was that pre Dell Alienware (2002) . Sad to see how Dell was so full of shit. It was also the last pre built system I ever owned.
Will say, there laptops are still insane! If you want/need a laptop like in my case, it’s perfect, they’re amazing!
@@ATejkl I had both laptop and prebuilt pc.. trash at the best.
@@dzgaming1 I dont know which laptop you got, but mine was amazing
@@ATejkl OK maybe the laptop was nice but it was still overpriced and the wait for it to be built and shipped was too long. This company is stilling putting single channel ram in Ryzen cpus.. that right there should tell you everything you need to know.
@@dzgaming1 well, the laptops are designed and built by Alienware, but desktops are built by dell, so it’s dells problem, not theirs
9:45 ironically enough, my MSI prebuild also has good support for memory out of the box.
Y’know, Dell’s quality only seems to have DECREASED since I bought my Alienware 17 R5 from them almost 5 years ago. At least that thing just needed a thermal paste replacement which was not that bad to do, but this is just sad what Dell has come down to.
Depends on your perspective, I've owned and/or worked on just about every model over the years and Its honestly always been hit or miss. Some of the product lines they really queeze every dollar and others they are far more progressive than other manufactures. That being said your models issues are partially due to Intel, they misspaced their thermal and tdp ratings so the OEMs had already began spec and production of the coolers prior to launch. Now Dell could have backpedaled and re-engineered a new cooler but if they did that they would also delay launch and it affects their relationship with Intel which is.... complicated. What aggravates me is they had the ability to over engineer the coolers and they choose not to, and its not the first time Intel has caused this issue. And with the R5 in particular it was the test per-say of a newer compact thin design thats why it only ran one revision because they wanted to use what they learned to develop the m line. And they did, but then also made the same mistakes again... I have a m17 R2 now myself and it has thermal issues with the i7, they all require undervolting to correct.
Dell’s gaming laptops have been known to be pretty decent. Their prebuilts however...
Yeah my pc is priced quite close to 1800 and it look so mich nicer lol
My Inspiron 7567 that I bought in the winter of 2016/17 is still going strong. Granted installed a M.2 and replaced the 500gb HDD that came with it; as well as upgrading the ram. I also did a fresh install of windows at some point after getting rid of all bloatware. Installed HWInfo64 for fan control so the 1050 doesn't cook and this thing has been a great laptop.
@@TheRickJames If it’s anything like what I experienced with my 17 R5 after taking off the heatsink to repaste the CPU and GPU, the thermal paste they used is probably dried up at this point. I kid you not, when I brushed my hand over the paste on the CPU, it was dry as sandpaper, and that was only after a year of owning the laptop. I went and repasted with TG Kryonaut and my temps and clock speeds were MILES better (I could even clock all six cores on my i9-8950HK anywhere between 4.1 and 4.3 GHz, though under full load at 4.3 it would still thermal throttle after about 30 seconds, and that’s with a heavy -.150 mV undervolt).
The sucky part about the m-line of their laptops was that they went back to inverted motherboards like on the 15 R2/17 R3 so to do any kind of repaste would involve disconnecting a lot of cables.
Your reaction was suprisingly quite chill when you opened it up. I thought you were going to scream wildy like a maniac and going KO to the floor of the pure ram madness in there.
It’s too bad at one time Alienware was a private company and they sold real custom pc’s… they were one of the first out there
Well, it's official. I am now going to recommend everyone I know to NEVER buy from Dell. This incident and all the videos from GN and LTT showing their shabby quality in both parts and service proves to me that Dell simply does not give a single care about customers anymore. Just the money they get from them.
The Alienware laptops aren't too bad tbh, overpriced but totally usable. The Desktops are near literally hot garbage.
eh id disagree, dell is the best option for office and server computers
Its always about money for companies regardless.
I got an xps with liquid cooling an i7 12700k, dual channel ddr5 ram and a 3080 for 2000 dollars. I added a second front fan and it all runs quite well now that I got a crucial bios update I did not realize I missed. It is the same setup as the new alienware desktop, minus all the extra plastic and lights the chassis is exactly the same though.
@@richardatthegate i have an inspiron 3891, adding a sata fan hub allowed me to reduce temps by adding a front and rear fan
To think that once upon a time Alienware was a name of quality and solid gaming excellence.. But then they went and got themselves Dell-Eated
Dell themselves got Dell-eated. The other day I found a 2008 Dell Inspiron 530s in my parents basement and decided to take it and check it out, surprisingly after seeing how shitty OEM machines are today especially in terms of compatibility, literally everything in it was spec'd to industry standard form factors. Standard 24pin atx power, standard(for the time) 4 pin CPU power, All the Fans were 80mm(rare today but still a standardized size) and use a PWM connectors and headers, the PSU was a TFX form factor, and the Motherboard was a Micro ATX and all its standoffs were the same pattern the ones today use. So I'm going to end up building a sleeper out of it, but since it is a TFX its basically an ATX that's been cut in half vertically it makes fitting a GPU in it that's any good kinda tricky. That's really the only OEM weirdness going on with it but I guess Nvidia still makes some of their RTX Quadro series in a low profile form factor so I got an RTX A2000 quadro that im gonna reflash the bios on to run at clock speeds that match the 3050
3:25 I actually see these wings as useful for protecting the cables and rear connectors when sliding that robot ~ against a wall.
In my setup, the power and DP connector are the ones taking the hit.
For the price they charge im shocked these OEM gaming systems even exist... My first gaming PC was an alienware and looking back on it I got SCAMMED hard on the price to spec ratio... like zero cooling and bad temps
The only OEM that’s worth the price is micro centers powerspec line up. They use actual well known parts and have the basics you expect an actual build to have (nvme, dual channel RAM, wraith spire cooler, etc)
I amazes me how Alienware is still in business with the prices they charge, considering you can get an i5 11thgen and a 3060 in a system with dual channel 32gb ram from lenovo for roughly $1300
it's Dell. it doesn't matter if they don't make much under that brand, when the laptops and office machines make the big buck
Not over here in Hong Kong, they put a 10700 with a 2060 haha
Wow, even 1300$ for that is kind of a steal. Got a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and RX6800 for 100$ more
@@HappyBeezerStudios Don't forget about all their server machines they sell that's where the real big bucks are.
@@esotericjahanism5251 yup, that has always been the big moneymaker.
A friend of mine ordered an Alienware for me years ago. It took nearly 3 months to get it. Their excuse was "They didnt have stock on some of the hardware and had to wait on a shipment."
Working in customer support where we set up deliveries, the story at the beginning is honestly so accurate. That stuff happens aaaallll the time.
I for you're looking for something to try out, I just got a monitor arm, and I love it. Went with the North Bayou F100A.
I would have loved to see some more in-depth review of that GPU. I'd never heard of the 5300.
OEM part, they don't want you to know about it.
You don't want to know about it.
@@mikem2253 why not? Even if it's OEM only, I'd love to see it in a comparison. Maybe Gamer's Nexus will get their hands on one some day.
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It's basically about the same as a GTX 970 in performance.
@@darthwiizius Impressively bad! Thanks
Remember when the minimum GPU that was actually in a prebuilt was a 1060, I miss when prebuilt “minimums” GPUs weren’t literal trash.
True, my friend got the last gen of good pre built, with a 1060 6GB. Kinda like kids nowadays. Rude, spoiled and not thankfull.
@@phoenixyt124 For someone who's not a kid you sure cry a lot.
@@cynthiacrescent uhm, so first of, no i don’t, and second of, if i would, where’s the problem in that? I only said that dell is kinda like a kid nowadays. Don’t know where your origin of being hurt comes from. I didn’t do anything to you, did i?
my old Asus G11 CD-K's graphics card was a GTX 1050 (non ti), i miss when gpu's were in stock
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Interesting video. Just bought an R13 will all the upgrades I could find. Even got a decent veteran discount. I'm curious how well their water cooling works into that little case. I mostly VR game so that will certainly push the CPU temps.
What really sucks is that the 5300 was actually an _amazing_ bang for buck card *when it's priced correctly.* I remember seeing a dell system with something like a 10300 (yes that's a real processor) and 5300 for under 500 USD at one point when on sale.
you gotta love how dells cheapness prevents you from using amd cooler hardware you have to use intel on amd that's hilarious🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I ordered a x17 laptop when it was on sale in November and they cancelled my order too claiming it was to make sure it wasn't fraud. When I called them about it they tried to tell me I had to reorder and wouldn't be able to get it at the sale price because it was a limited number and they were all accounted for. I threw a fit over the phone and spent like 5 hours talking to 30 different people and in the end I got it at the sale price wich was like $570.00 off. It ended up being delivered a month later on the exact day they estimated.
Ahaha, that’s how you negotiate with a soulless corporate hellhole.
You're a pretty chill e-bro and I appreciate your content
Great videos keep up the great work & Pittsburgh Pennsylvania is were I'm from and never miss any of your videos thanks for great content and thanks for spending the money to review these Gaming PCs for us because it's always nice to see what's up before any of us buy
I have an R14. I tried upgrading to 128Gb of T-Force ram and it didn’t like it at all. I’m returning it today and just ordered Corsair Vengeance since it seems to work for you and a couple of other TH-camrs. Thanks for the video.
I would like to see a comparison between the most expensive and least expensive alienware - just to see if there is any difference in build quality.
You could try Radeon's Anti Lag to get the input lag down. It can make a huge difference in some games.
That’s true, it definitely needed help with Doom.
Is sad that they have such option in the first place...
Should always be in performance mode :7
Anti-lag will add input lag on low frames
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ Wrong. It may add input lag on high frame rates.
@@iAMaReaperGotprobZ Why would you use new hardware to play old games?
I rather build me scrapped old computer for old games.
I really enjoy watching your videos and how you present them makes me laugh. Thank you so much Dawid!
Bro what happened?? Missed your videos Glad you are back. Keep up the good content! Will always be waiting for another video
I like how Dawid’s face on the thumbnail is already like “goddamn Dell always screwing me over and over”
Honestly, I'm glad I got an Alienware pre-built during Dell's last sale in March last year. Ended up getting a 6800xt, 5800x, 512gb nvme, and 16gb of 3200mhz DDR4 for $1977. Ended up ripping all that out and throwing them into a PC I built because I had so many issues with the Alienware operating system.
You got ripped off so much you could have bought a prebuid with better components for at least 800$ cheaper
@@42o45 who’s selling that prebuilt config for almost $1000 cheaper with better components?😂
ABS makes some decently priced 3000 series builds. I couldnt afford to build another pc this year so i bought one spec'ed with a 3060 ti and 10400. All in it was 1900 cad. I'll canibalize it and start a new build for an ultra clean gaming/workstation.
Glad you're back Dawid, hope you're doing well
I reckon the only reason there wasn't the typical level of Dell VD present is that they haven't ported most of it to Windows 11 yet.
ahh smart
Dawid: Prebuilt has improved
Dell: Must be that new box.
It’s the only explanation. 😂
I'll be honest, that 5300 preformed way better than I expected. I was expecting something in the ballpark of a GT 1030 as I've never heard of it before, but that was surprisingly not bad.. that until you look at the price of the system.
The baseplate for the cpu cooler is literally machined onto the rear sidepanel behind the motherboard. By trying to eliminate the need to fiddle with a baseplate behind the cpu to streamline building and reduce costs, they ruined cooler upgradability. If they at least used standard parts, the machine would have been salvageable.
My best friend finally got a desktop (she’s always had a laptop) and her parents surprised her with an Alienware for Christmas. Basically a Ryzen 7 5800 and a 3060. But guess what? They gave her a single 500gb HDD. $2k on a PC for a HDD? And a 500gb one at that? Dell straight up ripped her parents off. Sold them a bunch of warranties and everything too
That's the sole reason Alienware exists to scam old and pc illiterate people out of their money buying gifts for their kids.
Call me rude, but why would anyone willingly pay for what is a "stupid tax"? There's not a lot you can fuck up if you're already buying a pre-built system.
Not sure. Her parents dont know PCs so they obviously took advantage lol @@DanielFerreira-ez8qd
I swear why do these prebuilts all only include one stick? How much would it cost for just one extra stick of RAM? Like 50 bucks? Such an easy upgrade and they don't have another stick.
next to nothing, it's the fact they use one stick only versus two half capacity sticks for dual channel RAM (i.e. they should include 2x8GB instead of 1x16GB, so you actually get the doubled mem bandwidth, but to these companies, it's all mUh PrOfIt mArGiN...)
Cost/Profit Ratio. Even though it would cost them more along the lines of an extra $5 at Dell's scale to have dual channel RAM, $5×100,000 of PCs/Month=You're lucky it's not soldered to the MOBO.
@@indridcold2840 the cost to build the PC wouldn't even be as high as a DIY build. They're just opportunistically upcharging you. OEMs usually get GPUs directly from AMD/NVIDIA and they don't have to pay the scalper prices. They could easily price it reasonably (reasonable price for an RTX 2060 prebuilt would be around 1000 bucks) and yet they charge 1300.
@@dragontales1999
Good point mate, Dell does love to upcharge you ridiculously at every turn.
The second pc I ever built cost about this much and had an I7-4790k, 780Ti and 16gb ddr3. Fantastic build at the time and in a beautiful NZXT case with an AIO CPU cooler. I also managed to get a full four stick kit of ram.
Can you do a video for Architecture, Interior Design, and Landscape Architecture students for computer recommendations or to build one.
My first gaming PC was an Alienware X51. It served me well for many a year with numerous upgrades. Now I build my own PC's but the techniques I learnt doing all the upgrades gave me the confidence to break free of the pre-built shackles 😊
They bought these for my schools esports team. I looked at them and said “why in the world would they ever buy this, they’re better off buying PCs off of eBay.”
Sounds like both a first-world problem and the natural state of a school's intelligence.
The same delivery issue happened with my friend, except he ordered his pc in september 2021 and recieved it in january 2022.
always wanted to make a build on one of those alienware cases, specially the aurora r1
FINALLY, I WAS WATIING SOO LONG(but you know its dell so you can't blame david)
Haha yeah, 2 months to receive the PC was a rough wait 🤣
My thoughts too praying he didn't get the rona
Man I remember when I was severely wanting an alienware. But the more reviews I see I would now just steer completely clear of them.
nowadays Alienware is just the fancy "dude, you're getting a dell?", especially since they're owned by Dell
I’m having the same issue as Dawid, I ordered an hp omen back in December 1 and it was expected to ship January 1 and it still hasn’t shipped due to supply shortages, perhaps that was also a problem dawid had when getting his Dell system
im glad your back with your uploads i figured anna tied you down somewere. I am sure she was like give me some upload/render time ffs
What I’ve learned in the past with Alienware is to customize your own gaming rig with better parts at cheaper the price of an Alienware anytime
Ugh, well I really like Dell's Alienware laptops. My dad has one from 2016 with a gtx 1070 8 gig and i7 7th gen and dual channel ram 16 gig. I like it a lot. But it seems maybe their towers not worth unlike their laptops (when on sale).
I bought an XPS 8950 desktop from them recently for my first pc, with exactly the same internals as the Alienware in your vid. I've tried really hard to mod and swap out parts, but the deep-rooted effects of their proprietary philosophy is a nightmare to bypass. Regarding the power supply, I modded the metal shell sheltering the psu (out of consideration for fan position on generic psus), figured out how to connect the GPU and CPU slots on the motherboard to generic modular SFX psus (because ATX would not fit in that tiny space), only to yield when I dug deeper into the SYS connection by opening the stock psu and looking up the pin outs of generic psu motherboard connections online. It is operating solely on 12V rails, and the positions of all the pins in the cable of the stock psu (hence motherboard) do not align with the few applicable ones from generic psus. Unless one has absolutely thorough knowledge and access to single pin to single pin cables (DIY maybe?), the only solution would be a completely customised psu. I even emailed Corsair and they instantly gave up, similar to the advice for me from many TH-cam reviewers and reddit advisors
Now I'm trying out a generic AIO solution (limited to single 120mm fan because of Dell's case of choice). A tower air cooler is possible too, but only ones the size of the Noctua NH-U9S would be able to fit nicely (I've seen reviewers painstakingly squeeze bigger ones to uncomfortably fit though). *I will try your mounting method, it seems ingenious
*PS: They bundled the same 460W psu with my RTX 3070 build with no upgrade option lol, which is why I had to go through all that in the first place. I wanted to purchase the upgraded psu from their parts store, but they don't have it listed either
So glad to be privileged enough to be in a position to build my own. Because for the cost of those parts my heart shudders to think of ever purchasing that monstrosity.
Dawid goes from explaining the computer to best fan fic to give examples for the computer
The amount of work that Dell put into making sure most of the hardware won't be reusable is astonishing, are they trying to win some kind of "least sustainable company" award?
They’re competing with apple
@@VinhNguyen-ip7bn true
I won't be able to unsee that PC case after what you just said about it
Glad your back Dawid
I remember for a shot time the last generation you could get a 5800(nonX) 16GB single channel, a 2TB 7200RPM, and a 6800XT for something like $1950, with a 3 year warranty. It was a good thing we went with the 5800 nonX too becasue we didnt realize the CPU cooler would both be a box cooler meant for a pentium, as well as being choked worse David Carradine
Dell's customer service policy is pretty disgusting, I'm surprised they haven't been taken down by the cia or something
It’s the WORST. Well maybe not the worst, but it sucks to have to interact with.
@@AnnaDoes I can imagine, I've had to deal with pretty bad tech support, such an honour to get a reply from you, hope you and Dawid are doing all right
With Dell you have to log on and log off and log back on their website to see if a deal will be offered or go find coupons.
9:38 this is the single best Dawid moment in the history of Dawid
Man, I saw the GPU, and I was like "that wouldn't be the 5300 would it? Gotta be a 5500XT at minimum", how wrong I was
Haha!! I know right. The RX 5300 really is shocking in this PC.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff the 5300 is OK, especially in this market but not at that price obviously, it was low end when it came out. I think it's like 1050 3GB performance, not 100% sure.
@@Al3ksandrOrlov Nah more like a 1060 3gb
I genuinely have no idea how Alienware stays in business. Even in the pre-built OEM space they are a horrible value.
The branding.
I used to be obsessed with Alienware because I always wanted one as a kid, back when they used to be good.
Their newer desktops are horrible, but their older stuff is pretty good and was built better. Their laptops are also pretty damn nice, and probably the only thing I will ever consider getting from them.
I had exactly the same experience buying a laptop from Dell. It took so long that I told them I needed to cancel the order and refused the delivery. Too bad their shipping information doesn't update faster so you can see what's happening.
Hey Dawid, try that turbine cooler from Goldenfield the Initiate I think it was called. It should be able to keep that 5600x cool.
I really like AMD's GPU offerings this time around. I use a 6700xt daily and it's quiet and powerful. I will soon be pairing it with a 5800x.
I love my 6700xt as well.., although I am over killing my system by pairing it with a 5950x..
they really optimized their efficiency over the last couple of gens, which was always my main issue. I can see myself going team red next time if they keep going.
@@VinnyVidiVintage complete overkill. But, I got it for $360 US, so it was at least cheaper. Plus, I had already bought 32gb's of teamgroup ARGB 3600 speed ram for my 9700k last year. Which was a mistake. I also received a b550-F for Christmas. After purchasing a used Dark Rock Pro 4, my total cost was under $500.
@@HappyBeezerStudios I usually buy Nvidia but this time around I wanted to go all AMD. As soon as my Samsung 980 pro comes. All will be complete
This channel has made me realize that I hate dell pre builts. Thank you, Dawid, for your service to the people. Friends don't let friends buy dell products 😂
I've been subbed for quite some time now. Just wanted to say your videos are very refreshing to me. the current landscape of PC content is as flat as Kansas, I absolutely can't stand how boring most people are. Thanks for being entertaining my man!
Nice Review! New Alienware looks a little more nice to work with. They are using the new 12v standard for power supply. Eventually the 1996 ATX standard will switch to it :)
While it’s still bad, you gotta give them credit for improving the airflow of their case significantly and the better ram support.
I’d say that if Dell does actually watch these videos, based on their excellent customer service skills, I imagine they just go ‘meh’ rather than care
The only people at Dell who'd have the power to change things are too busy counting their money to research any product/service feedback.
How it started: Watching and giggling at hours of Dawid's OEM pre-built videos. How it's going: Purchased lightly used Omen 5800X/3060ti 30l due to the mafia loanshark level extortion going on in the GPU market currently. Sigh, I can always case swap if i have to. Sincerely, A beaten man.
I almost bought a $2800 Alienware a10 on Black Friday gamer nexus saved me from that mess with their reviews, months later for about the same cost I am doing my own build after finally getting a 3080 from Best Buy and it will be form factor
Thanks for the great review Dawid. I thought about getting this PC, but I ended up building my own PC instead. After watching your review, I'm really glad I build my own PC instead.
Thanks to that AIO misfortune I finally understand what Alienware really means. Mix and match unrelated hardware specs to create the ultimate alien abomination. I should really have noticed sooner with the weird placements and semi-proprietary components. Meh…
I bought a top of the range Alienware laptop some years ago with a GTX 1080 on board. Thing came with this massive, heavy cooling solution but would thermal throttle after about 15mins of play. Turns out Dell had put all these expensive components in this laptop but had skimped on the thermal paste. I opened it up, put about £1 or £2 worth of MX-4 in there and it ran beautifully. I ran before and after benchmarks and it was insane how much that tiny cost improved performance.
To be fair to Dell, when I bought that thing I didn't know much about computers and that experience inspired me to build my own desktop. Plus, I have a 1080 laptop, that still holds up to this day, to use when I'm away from home (which is a lot).
I absolutely SCORED an Alienware Area 51 R2 locally for $150 cash! That was a pretty insane deal! It was water damaged, so required a bit of work and 2 out of 3 of the GTX 980 Tis worked!! Using it as my main system now and gave one of the GPUs to my younger brother.
FIRST
Dawg, GTA 5 came out in 2013, move on!
The trick for standard boxes for PC's is to open the top, flip them upside down, cut some of the tape on the bottom to allow air in, and lift the box off of the PC. If you don't cut the tape on the bottom you can have a suction problem when trying to lift off the box.
love your happiness. Just like a puppy enthousiastically unboxing a pc.
Man i was thinking about buying a prebuilt last year before i built my own PC. firstly, i'm so happy i didnt but one of the main reasons i didn't was b/c when i asked what after market GPU did they use or was it the FE card, non of them even knew which GPU was in the PC. Some places actually had contracts with FE and EVGA but they were overpriced too. IT's much better to just get the parts (if you can) and just have someone build it for you if you're not confident to do it yourself.
I should be used to his out there insults, but his whole bear suffering from leprosy that was role playing as a jet engine remark caught me off guard and had me rolling. 🤣
2:37 LOL, "Robot V***na" , dammit dawid , HAHAHA.
Don’t know if the mounting and aio compatibility are like last gen but there should be mounting at the top... but which aios work without fan/pump errors are few