One problem with the program to require sellers to provide proof of identity and bank account, is that eBay (the people who had 14 million account details sold online after a hack last year) then holds a copy of your driver license or passport and your bank account details which they make no guarantees to secure. If Congress wants me to trust online sellers and provide them that kind of information, legislate that the platform MUST provide a bond against their being hacked and losing my information into the wild for resale.
☝️💯 excellent point. Receiving letters: "Oops, we got hacked, and it's your job now to be anxiously vigilant" has become too routine. We get several such letters per year.
Simply requiring ID verification to participate in the modern economy is wrong. People should have a right to financial privacy & a right to engage in the economy while maintaining their privacy. Financial surveillance is one of the most important fights of the modern day.
The problem is that the punishment for theft, even when it involves organized crime, is so minor that the risk/reward is worth it to those who have nothing to lose.
The problem is that people are so poor and the rich are so rich that organized shoplifting rings are seen as a viable option for many. The problem is that Capitalism incentivizes this behavior. The punishment for theft is the US varies on how much is stolen, but stealing from these high-end stores would be classed as Grand Larceny, and has up to 6 years of prison time and up to 10,000 in fines. This is far higher than most sentences in places throughout Europe, such as Sweden, Norway, Spain, and France, but the theft rates in these countries are far lower. Why? Because these other countries have social safety nets that make theivery not as tempting an option for so many. People aren't as likely to join gangs or theivery rings if their basic needs are taken care of. If your taxpayer dollars went towards the needs of the people instead of for stipends to corperations, then people are less likely to feel entitled to luxury bags ad clothes that are already extremely overpriced and made by the labor of exploited people, often children. So the issue isn't that the crime penalty is not harsh enough, the issue is poverty, Capitalism, and lack of benefits.
Another thought, so then things like from all these loses, we all pay for those price hikes. In some cases they call it inflation. How about we boycott online marketplaces. Period.
This is true. In my country robbers will be beaten near death if caught by the public and the police will just watch. No one will care and no lawyer will try to sue for the beatings.
Now my local grocery store has shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, and laundry detergent locked up behind plexiglass. As time goes on, they lock up more and more items in the store. Pretty soon we'll need a grocery store employee to follow us when we're shopping to unlock the cases one by one as we select items to buy.
We don’t have that rampant looting here but that was like a normal thing ever since in our city. They hide those expensive items behind locked plexiglass like moisturizers, perfumes etc. Our stores here mostly have private security service at the entrance and with that scanner that will buzz if someone brings an unscanned item outside. Weird tho that US has that crazy thing in there for years and they are not like Japan lol, so why not tighten thé security. Those cctv will not do anything honestly.
The Home Depot fire was just around the corner from us - a police helicopter told us to "be prepared to move!" while my husband was up on the roof with the hose (and still-burning embers the size of dinner plates were raining down in our backyard). No exaggeration. Utterly ridiculous and obscene to think about the potential loss of life and homes, and pets (there was a Doggie Daycare next door that had to be evacuated) - all for a few thousand dollars worth of tools. Despicable. I am glad to see that the online marketplace is being more closely scrutinized.
So sorry but I don't get it. Wasn't the building with sprinklers? It didn't look like it in the video. A thief burnt down the building as a distraction ploy?
@@timsteinkamp2245 Yes. A thief started a fire back in the lumber section so he could steal a bunch of powertools (pretty sure they arrested him - he was part of a ring of smash-n-grabbers etc working all over the bay area). Yes, the store had sprinklers which may have malfunctioned(?) (I am very curious abt that btw). An employee attempted to fight the lumber fire with an extinguisher but the conflagration grew too fast. The sprinklers did appear to come on - just too little/too late. It was a scary-fast fire.
DAMN!!! 😳 that is horrific!! Always get more info & better news from the folks in the comments than the stinkin video I swear. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻 thank goodness your home & the doggies next door didn't get hurt further 💔 thank God. Hope youb& your family are doing OK, the stress prob made ya sick for days😔 Many many blessings dear
I was at a Harbor Freight store and while checking out, I heard a commotion and doors opening fast. Turns out an old guy had walked out with a bunch of power tools and the cashier lady informed me it happens quite regularly. There needs to be harsher punishments when the risk/reward is worth it as someone else said. It shouldn't be that way
So are you saying that say someone stills a snack cake from Walmart .should get the same type of time as someone who say stills a whole shopping cart full of snack cakes?
Stop the resale and you take away the incentive for the bulk of this theft. Sure you will still have people stealing stuff for their own personal use, but tackling the reseller issue will make the biggest impact to the bottom line.
I worked 15 years at Home Depot. The amount of empty packages we found daily is unreal. But because the losses come off the employee profit share program head office doesn't have to worry about it unless the amount gets higher then that. It should come out of upper managements bonuses to get them to take it seriously. You can say the floor associates need to watch their isles better but that is not possible when they cut hours to help boost managements bonuses.
Give every home depot employee more hours a tazer, a shotgun with rubber bullets and a company bonus for every incapacitated shoplifter on their tally at the end of the financial year.
@@manp1039 it's a step in the right direction.... management all the way to the top WILL NOT HELP, will not stop accepting ridiculous bonuses- while commoners struggle. MILLIONS!!! IT IS MORE RIGHT THAN BEING A LEMMING!! This is assertive action!
Years of living a dangerous life has taught me that a tough man knows when and how to get out of a situation, but a smart man never gets himself into one.
I like how this very quickly shifts the focus from the thieves to the people websites they use to sell their stolen items. Maybe let’s focus on stopping the theft in the first place?
Exactly!! I don’t get it! what is going on…? How is it at every turn people are being let off the hook for the crimes they commit, it’s a growing trend that’s going to lead to big issue.
@mikeries8549 we should start cracking down on purchase of knives since knifes enable people to hurt other people. We should also start regulating what people can watch since youtube can enable people to have different views.
Simple shoplifting by people in need is very rare. The vast majority of the time the people shoplifting are not doing it just because they're in need. It's because they want something and are unwilling to pay the sacrifice to get that thing.
They’re making it seem like cracking down on shoplifting will only harm the single mother stealing bread, milk, and eggs from Walmart while the criminals hitting Neiman Marcus and Saks 5th Ave will go unpunished.
These talking heads saying "platforms need to do more" are missing another part of the story. The amount of false and abusive flags that hit legitimate sellers and business is huge, and crippling to some. When the companies say some of these solutions hurt lawful sales/sellers, these are true statements.
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
This is old school. Kids did this when I was young. A whole neighborhood would get together and hit the mall. A mall closed down because of all the theft that was happening.
@Anthony Mercado You're a Bori (ask me how I know), Connecticut got some of the filthiest hoods around. Just as bad as some of those states you mentioned. Also, the prescription drug abuse is unreal. Especially in the "well to do areas." Most of them soccer moms shuffling around like zombies from all the pills they are on.
Retail stores should just pull out of these criminal enabled areas. They are let back into the streets and continue this delinquent cycle. Blue states are going to lose a lot of retail stores because of this
I use to work for a company that was hired by retailers to try and best their system in any way possible. It was crazy how fast new and improved boosting methods came along before we would publicly acknowledge that we knew their current means. If I could steal 20K of product in a mock run, they would find a way to take 30K next time, in plain sight.
Bingo, we have to get to a place of respect. The world does not provide security. Whether it is savings in your account or buried in the ground or in a store by armed men.
I worked at DD's Discount, Walmart, Nordstrom and Home Depot as Asset Protection and Loss prevention and I was more worried about the police hurting me when I was trying to stop a shoplifter. I was beaten up at Home Depot by the Odessa Police Department. Home Depot did nothing for me.
Care to elaborate? Because most of the time the police don't get there until the thieves are gone (and you guys file charges using video), or if you manage to make the stop and wait on them to get there (which means you had a booster who actually stopped without resistance- and I don't mean physical, I mean none at all since you guys are hands off- and then also peacefully waited for the police to arrive). I don't know the details of your situation- as you didn't give them- but it sounds to me as if you likely broke your companies policy. Still not sure how you ended up getting "beat up by the police" though...
@@Dumpus7 criminal told the police I was assaulting his girl and the police believed them. I'm assuming the figured out I was the bad guy. It's hard to go against the police. I tried and I failed saved all the files and I will reveal them in 20 years.
These are the same companies who have politicians in their pockets, the same companies that are publicly traded on Wall Street with CEO’s making millions, and the same companies whose employees claim they treat them like a number and don’t care about anything but money. I’m sure they will find ways to continue to stay rich and powerful.
@@TheSuperi9 and what about poverty people down the road? as so crime rings like targeting them and or making there life harder like stealing all of there tool's ( because paying the dealership's or anyone else is out of the question as there poor and barely can afford parts or rent/food/utility's ect ) to work on the family car and or jacking the family car so its harder to get to work on Monday morning?
That’s why I stop buying stuffs on Amazon, Alibaba, Walmart online and never brought at eBay. I still do buy online at Costco, Home Depot online. I still prefer to shop in-person where I could see/touch my products to make sure it’s “Right” for me. A little work/time consuming but still fulfilling…
@@christopherbonanno1120 there food bank , and a lot organization that provide free food .. !!! not mention aid from government .. unless u miss use those service ..
agree with those so call thieves supporter that make them so bold to do what they did until one of those or their families become victims ( i never wish any of this unfortunate happen to anyone ) they will never wake up.
Corporations steal, pollute developing nations, and steal from employees. They aren’t innocent either. A lot of the same factories make both the knockoffs and brand names.
True. In my country if you caught a thief the public can beat him near death and you won't be prosecuted. Of course we don't have guns so public brawling is not deadly.
I was at Walmart last week and a woman and a man walked just ahead of me and the electronic alarm 🚨 went off! The woman said "Was that me?" and walked her basket back......but the man didn't. This made me think that she was the camouflage while he was the culprit!💔🚨😔 This kind of thief only raises prices for the consumers! They didn't have a door person present or greeter! So sad! I could have said something but by then he would have been at his or their car and ditched the item!💔😔
Don’t narc on somebody for shoplifting they could need it for food or other reasons that are a necessity Also someone could beat you up stab you or shoot you for being a narc
it is possible they were in cahoots.. but it is also possible that person was making it appear like he was with her and just continued walking to not bring any attention to him while she did stop.. I saw a video of 2 people walking into a walmart.. and they were trying to use a fake receipt or had a history of trying to use fake receipts.. turns out the police were called.. and the guy had warrants for his arrest he had a concealed knife and a concealed gun. the woman with him escaped. he is now dead. What happened is, once the police said they don't want you to leave the store and not come back.. but we will take care of doing a "trespass" on you.. but we will need your ID.. that is when he started to freak out and was trying to escape. hes started to try and run.. he didnt abide by the police orders to stop.. and they had to grab him and put cuffs on him.. then he began to resist having cuffs put on.. that is when the knife was spot in under his pants. he tried to reach for the knife.. then the gun was spotted .. and he tried to reach for that.. then the police told him to stop.. but interestingly.. there was a guys.. supposedly a civillian trying to help the police.. but then the civilian yelled "he has a gun.. Shoot him!!" repeatedly.. and i began to think.. that "civilian" probably knew him.. and wanted to get him killed.. probably didn't want him to identify him as an accomplice?? the civilian disappeared and so did the woman. I have a feeling that guys was a patsy.. and easy patsy whom they could get to do crimes for them without themselves getting caught. and the final straw was actually yelling to the police to shoot him.. saying "he has a gun! Shoot him!" that seemed too professional to me.. it was a form of manipulating the police.. in star wars genre.. they call that "using the force"
One way to stop shoplifting, is to showcase the goods and merchandise on a LCD display So customers can see what they want to buy They would add it to a virtual Cart At checkout, an employee will bring the items once they are paid for Merchandise will be safe in the back Out of sight of thieves Stores will probably have to higher more employees, the cost savings will be enough to cover all the extra employees Or automate the process
@@shaneoneill1338 that's the one! When I was a teen I bought a BB gun from there by looking at a picture of it and taking a ticket to the cashier. It would come down a conveyer once you paid for it. It didn't seem like an inconvenience really. I went there for that model.
It's become unaffordable for the average person in this country which is why thefts are through the roof. I remember people being able to survive making minimum wage in NYC back in the 80's. Now people have to choose between paying their rent and buying groceries. This is a major problem not just in big cities but in small rural towns as well. Everyone is feeling the pinch right now and it's gonna get worse as inflation goes up.
I see people not giving money to corps. The price increase isn't inflation, it's too high. The increase is due to greed... people are just not getting scammed.
Oh yeah they dont need hand bags , tools or clothething . If they were steeling to survive they steal food . Even at that unaceplatable. Theirs free food banks , churches , and ebt . No need to steal nothing.
it does happen i had a coworker ( born in the usa 🇺🇸 aka 100% usa passport holder ) before i knew them they did it and the food banks/charities wouldn't help same with the 🇺🇸 governments so starve or steal lunch/jail time. i can't condone there behaviour but i understand there will to steal cheap food to live like a smaller loaf 🍞 i these cases removing poverty removes crime now mobsters are a different problem of crime
@@whatever5922 shows there a usa 🇺🇸 citizen and not a foreign national looking for handouts for the next 50 years as you generally need to have a green card/work visas or 🇺🇸-passport to work in the usa 🇺🇸 that or brake the law's and hope you and those how adided and embedded don't get caught by the fed's 😉 a fast way of jail time and or deportation
A few years ago I used to be wrapped up in the booster side of this. Even myself having been around it for years it would still amaze me how much would get brought to the fence guys every single day. 2 places that used to handle the most boosters could EASILY fill a Mercedes Sprinter van floor to ceiling with OTC medication everyday. On a daily basis the retail cost of the stuff they took in would be in the hundreds of thousands
I never boosted but I used to do return fraud and sell counterfeit. I did it during college then I stopped. I was never nervous, back then nobody knew the difference. I’m glad those days are behind me.
Right! I used to think that EBay had all the sketchy items. Amazon is getting that way. eBay’s seems to have more protections for the buyer and will allow you to post a complaint about the seller and the product. I had a complaint about getting a fake item on Amazon and they said I couldn’t complain about the seller only the product. What?
I work in wholesale, I visit about 12 retail accounts a day and im here to tell ya, they all experience a shocking amount of theft every day and do nothing to stop it.
@@marilynmonheaux every retail business does account for "shrinkage" aka theft, breakage, miscounted during receiving etc.. But the theft has gone up so much once they allowed masks inside plus, the state banned plastic bags so its now common for shoppers to buy groceries and leave with a cart full without bagging, so when people skip the registers it's not obvious they didn't pay when they're leaving without bagged groceries
I hope the retailers come up with their own solutions like individual serial numbers on products and busting the boost groups, because i want to be able to sell unneeded stuff from my house without giving up my id and financial info to the tech companies.
I gave up on selling or giving away my deceased parent's stuff for fear of people knowing where I live. I just take that stuff to a charity like Goodwill.
Instead of blaming Amazon for wrongdoing what about blaming the thief? It feels like Amazon is everyone’s scapegoat - just because they’ve become successful.
At my local Albertsons I used to see people shop lifting all the time. It got so bad that they now usually have armed guards at both exits. It’s sad to see this situation come to this, but their solution seems to be working.
@@dannydaw59 no,NM, but good guess. The southwest, and west coast for that matter, are getting a little to crazy for me. I hope to move to a smaller town in the midwest someday.
It’ll be a pain for people selling item online legitimately if we end up being required to show proof of purchase. I trash receipts if I plan to keep an item.
It would also be very easy to make a seemingly legit receipt for an item, even if it was stolen. You either destroy legitimate resale, or accidentally enable fencing... stopping actual theft is much easier.
@@kyliemiuwhat if you didn't buy but a family member gave it to you? The point is, all of this is just punishing the non-criminals. What needs to be done is make the punishment for theft more severe but Noone wants to do that because there's an agenda to destroy the country.
When I worked construction I met this guys that knew a guy that paid homeless people with drugs for stealing tools. He then sold them out of his truck. This was like 6 years ago. Makes me think this is how this started. He said most people didn't want to get near homeless people and by the time the cops got there he was gone.
As a customer, I’d rather just order from Amazon or some other online shop rather than put up with waiting around for some employee to unlock the product or fix whatever is wrong with these anti theft measures. If you’re going to treat every customer as a potential criminal, I don’t see the point in shopping at your store.
People in need are being helped by the government, they don't need to steal. Only horrible people feel a need to steal, we don't live in a third world country in which there is no help for the needy.
I absolutely hate going to homedepot and not being able to take my milwaukee tools to the cashier, I have to wait for someone to come and unlock it. They just treat everyone like criminals
The aren't YOUR Milwaukee tools until you pay for them, that's why. If they don't lock stuff up that is being commonly stolen, there won't be any Milwaukee tools left for you to even buy.
@@avonfettydale9166 isn't the question, why does stealing bother you so little? it says something about your morality when you find one of the oldest social principles, the aversion to stealing, one that's even present in the animal kingdom, doesn't bother you.
Oh, is this why I had to do all that just to sell my old textbooks? I ended up selling them to a different place instead because it was too much of a hassle to list them on Amazon lately.
This could be the end of going anonymous if this bill passes. I understand they are trying to protect goods from being sold if they were stolen, but I have a feeling this could create more problems and could invade people's privacy.
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
Also why not just mandate big box retailers to track this info differently vs passing legislation? Tax them for not having the protocols in place. Legislation gets in the way and affects everyone as a result of a small few. Taxing big company marketplaces for not fixing these problems is a better approach
@@censoredfromtheinternet3110 If there is anything I learned from playing Watch Dogs pretty soon in the future everyone is going to be spied on. Its inevitable but its going to happen.
To Home Depot, if you read comments. I’ve seen too many cashiers wave someone on even when the alarm is set off as a patron leaves the store without checking whether or not an item(s) has been paid for. Retailers need to start putting tracking devices in random items, such as these retailers who are experiencing the smash-and-grab situations.
@CharlesNemon In a way I don't blame the workers for doing this. Why should a person who makes minimum wage be responsible in protecting a multi billion dollar company. You never know if cart checking will lead to violence. Let them hire trained security personal and pay them the wage they deserve
lol you suggest company's/stores start putting tracking devices in their products so they can track you once you leave their store? Yeah that'd be nice for the products that get stolen but id say like 99% of the products are bought legitimately so I'd definitely not be ok with going to the store and buying some stuff and having the off chance there is a tracker in one of the products I just bought..
Reward the criminals, punish the customers. My husband refuses to shop at stores with security sensors. I wish I could. It's so offensive to know that people are stealing items from everywhere, and we the consumer have to pay the price. It's the degradation of mankind, and morally bankrupt humans that don't have any ethics or character. The world we live in is in the toilet!
They dump the security of their products on employees who make cump change and then go surprised pikachu when their crap gets lifted. Imagine getting security and just protecting your goods. At some point it became the responsibility of the state to protect your business, in reality it is the business who should be protecting itself.
what you are saying is they don't pay enough for employees to provide security for the products in teh store? It is my impression.. that many stores hire employees that specifically work in "Loss prevention" and also they hire security guards to also monitor and apprehend thieves?
@@manp1039 That would literally be the point, however most of these locations have zero security at all at any hour of the day even in rough places just to cut down labor hours. The country can not afford to jail/capture every single criminal in the country who torrents a Disney film or lifts an over priced drill from home depot at the same time as charging functionally zero taxes on these same companies when they do business. If you don't want your drills lifted hire some guards, buy some locked cases or better yet pay liveable wages so we don't have roaming bands of shoplifters who can't afford to eat and pay rent if they work in your store. The idea that these companies want to run with is pay nothing in taxes and let the government stop all the shoplifting, they don't get both. They can have the c suit bonuses they have grown addicted to or they can have police on every corner, the money has to go somewhere and these guys have chosen not to pay for public services and instead capture as much profit as possible. No one should have sympathy for people living the consequences of their own actions as is the case with these retailers.
Maybe, liken to guns & ammo, Micro stamping all items costing more than a set value (25$?) wotj seroa; mi,ber om am easily visible location. With the number held in a federal location, requiring transfer papers.
Counterfeit goods and stolen goods are two very different categories. Putting them together to make the numbers look much larger, shows a bias in this documentary. Damages from sales of counterfeit goods is a much more serious issue then stolen goods especially online and on a global scale. There is more to the story.
ever watch 'forensic detectives'? if a murderer leaves fingerprints on a plastic bucket purchased at wal-mart, that person's account details, face, vehicle, purchases and payment are all produced for law enforcement, including where and when it was made, which store and cashier sold it and video evidence of it being purchased and loaded into a vehicle, from multiple angles. Every. Single. Item., going back years.
Hi Katy. Thanks for this news item. I could watch & listen to you on this subject all day long & on almost any other subject actually. You make for very compelling viewing 🥰
Why are we acting like there is an acceptable level of theft? There should be increased punishments for both petty and organized shoplifters. Before California changed their shoplifting laws, there were less of these crimes. Poor or rich, I am not going to feel sorry for criminals. I'm liberal, but not I'm not lawless. Throw these people in jail!
Amazon treats their warehouse workers like slaves. Secondly this video gives me another reason to not shop on Amazon- they don't appear to be doing enough to combat stolen merchandise.
I'm currently working at Amazon. Not sure where you get your facts that we're being treated like slaves. I would advise you to keep your mouth shut if you never work for them
Just report the seller to the Ebay security and their account will be banned...(a few days later) oh look they set up a new account using a stolen identity oh darn.
Imagine being gullible enough to buy a brand new power tool marked half off from some guy with a made up name and never questioning whether it was stolen or not.
At the core of this issue is our inability to face the facts and handle these crimes with the harsh punishments that they deserve. Why choose to complicate things and dance around the obvious??? Stop making up extra theories to justify these shoplifting crimes.
Exactly, we seem to ignore the patterns because we are scared of being called ‘racist’. There is a massive epidemic of this sort of behaviour amongst a certain group that needs to be addressed…
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
@@elvisherrera960 mmkay so...where is your big tv episode entirely free of corporate interference, huh? What do you have against these laws? And if yoir whole eliminating competition argument was valid then why did I mention them separate from netflix?
@@juliahart8593 tell me what making it difficult as an individual to sell online has to do with stopping crime? You stop stealing at the source from inside the store . I Don't have an issue with harsher punishment on stealing it's all the other crap they are pushing through. They are masking it because fools believe the crap they promoted.
I don't buy items online that may be stolen; I only buy from legitimate retailers, however there are many people that buy new items cheap online, knowing full well that only stolen items would be cheaper than retail. The other reason I only buy from legitimate online sellers is to avoid the possibility of buying fake merchandise.
Home Depot needs to up their game on stolen ID and stolen credit card information. Places all over have neglected to check ID when customers pay with cards. I personally have not been asked to show ID for years (almost before COVID and masks). Security has fallen short in person as well as online.
It's crazy how much Congress and companies worry about all kinds of theft except wage theft which is significantly higher than every single type of theft combined sitting at 50 billion annually. Also companies rarely face consequences for their blatant theft
My sister works at a grocery store in a shopping center. Next to her store is a T-Mobile. One night, less than 20 minutes after she left work, an organized group broke all the windows at the T-Mobile and cleaned them out. They have bars on their windows now. This problem is spreading! Something needs to be done to stop these organized rings. It makes me hesitate to buy things online, unless I know the seller is legit.
Yep. As much as people may complain about how these companies are already "big enough," the truth is that these losses eventually get passed on to the customers as even further increased prices
Insane the volume of stolen goods being moved here. I went tv shopping and the amount of people I met selling stolen high end tvs was insane just in my local area.
Under the cover that they are just stealing to feed their families. So I’m stealing power tools to get food on my table? As opposed to actually stealing food?
CNBC contradicted itself in its own report. It distinguised between organized criminal gangs and petty thieves. Later, they said organized crime gangs hire individual thieves. They can't even keep a report honest, so do you think they did not lie more everyday?
Interesting how alot of the blame is placed on the marketplaces providing an easy outlet for criminals to sell stolen merch, but nothing on cracking down on criminals for commiting the thefts?
Nice things no longer exist, only nice-looking, made cheap and sold for vast profit things. The greater the market cap, the more the company subscribes to this philosophy. Also, businesses factor shrinkage into their forecasts, they expect it to happen and hope it remains below threshold. Holding anyone accountable won't change this.
"Shrink" is the total loss most retail stores deal with on an annual year, or the total percent of revinue lost due to shoplifting, employee theft, and miscalculatons from the store. Shoplifting by customers make up only 1/3 of this number. "Shrink" makes up less than 1% of most retail store loss, even when accounting for organized theft. So while listing shoplifted goods online is a serious issue as it allows a coverup for bootleggers and the like to sell counterfeit goods, which can be dangerous. When you act as if shoplifting is a major problem for shops, you are talking about these retail stores losing 0.33% of their annual income. The overwhelming majority of shops dealing with this organized crime are not small mom-and-pop shops, they are large name-brand corperations.
Also they deserve to have their stuff stolen considering they steal from the people that shop there. For example Walmart steals 300+ million dollars from it's customers every two years and many companies does crap like this keep going at it people you're not stealing you're reclaiming it just hopefully you're giving it back to the people and not just yourself.
This is why I do not like these "shop" or "marketplace" stuff as how do I know I am not buying stolen goods. Walmart, Target, and several other merchants now have these "marketplaces" and no longer carry the iems that I used to order online and pickup in the store. They are fueling the problem they are fighting against. Just let me buy from your supply chain like I always have, because I need to purchase other things in store anyway so just me pick up the items that you don't have on your shelves! It more revenue that way as I am buying more than what I ordered. Kudos to Home Depot for upgrading their carts to stop roll out shoplifting as well as the usual cart theft and abandonment.
Would having a checkout like Costco uses (where someone at the door checks your purchase against the receipt) alleviate some of the problem? I wonder if Costco suffers significant theft?
LV could solve this problem in a heartbeat by adding serials to their product. Of course they don't want to do this because that could help people see how much of their overpriced crap they are shoveling out every year.
@@johnsmith1882-x2i They have to be unique, which means people can track them and count how much overpriced trash LV is dumping out. LV intentionally does not serialize their products, nor do they provide any way to authenticate them.
First, most obvious clue for consumers is that the person you’re buying from has power tools new in the box. Unless they’re liquidators or genuine retailer, you can pretty much assure yourself that the tools are stolen. Multiple unused, boxed power tools? Who spends $300 on a circular saw and never so much as cracks the box? Well, duh.
@@sc-ie6kg not even…just deals period. I follow so many couponing pages and its crazy how many big ticket items u can buy for cheap and get many at once and resale. Its not stolen they just get such a good deals🤷🏻♀️
The truth is I really don’t care if it’s stolen as long as I get a deal on it. Why pay double at the store if I’m barely making it through financially with everything going on? I’ll take the 50% off
@@whatever5922 I will all day too I don’t care if I buy stolen goods as long as I get them cheap that’s all I care about as long as it’s not stolen from me
I finally realized those way too good to be true online deals really are. Sorry for my part in buying looted stuff 🙁. I hope we get this under control.
this is a pretty safe and lucrative business for criminals when you know that your chances of getting prosecuted are low especially in states like California
What they did was charge higher fees, tax you to death and have you verify to sell as if you are applying for a job. Very annoying and not cody effective, unless yout goods ARE stolen!
one of the best put together and subsequently explained statistical info-docs I've seen in a while. who ever the investigative journalist(s) were assigned to this guy really stole the show 👍
Now, if less people would buy online, we could further reduce the risk of buying stolen goods. Online shopping wasn't a thing 30 years ago and people survived just fine.
From my side of the Atlantic, I would say that if there is a market for stolen infant formula, maybe the issue is not the people stealing it or the marketplaces allowing them to sell. Maybe the issue is way higher in the country's organization and responsibilities. There is a big difference between stolen iPhone and stolen infant formula. Maybe not in the land of the free...
Yeah but wage theft is way worse and no one ever gets punished. It is only not okay when poor people and crinminals steal bu not when rich people do it.
Why does the government need us legit sellers, bank account number? We already have to pay taxes on anything over $600. There's no reason for them to need out bank account.
To track people for racketeering… Patriot Act already gives them you bank info to track where money comes and goes. We are losing our democracy slowly and it’s a mess
The guy who says retailers blow it out of proportion is nuts. Because of ppl like him, feeling sorry for thieves, it will only get worse.
One problem with the program to require sellers to provide proof of identity and bank account, is that eBay (the people who had 14 million account details sold online after a hack last year) then holds a copy of your driver license or passport and your bank account details which they make no guarantees to secure. If Congress wants me to trust online sellers and provide them that kind of information, legislate that the platform MUST provide a bond against their being hacked and losing my information into the wild for resale.
☝️💯 excellent point. Receiving letters: "Oops, we got hacked, and it's your job now to be anxiously vigilant" has become too routine. We get several such letters per year.
Simply requiring ID verification to participate in the modern economy is wrong. People should have a right to financial privacy & a right to engage in the economy while maintaining their privacy. Financial surveillance is one of the most important fights of the modern day.
yup .. i was one of the accounts hacked ... had to cancel all credit cards ..
The problem is that the punishment for theft, even when it involves organized crime, is so minor that the risk/reward is worth it to those who have nothing to lose.
If you have nothing to lose then no punishment is going to stop it. Even when they hung bandits, there were always new ones coming along.
The problem is that people are so poor and the rich are so rich that organized shoplifting rings are seen as a viable option for many. The problem is that Capitalism incentivizes this behavior.
The punishment for theft is the US varies on how much is stolen, but stealing from these high-end stores would be classed as Grand Larceny, and has up to 6 years of prison time and up to 10,000 in fines. This is far higher than most sentences in places throughout Europe, such as Sweden, Norway, Spain, and France, but the theft rates in these countries are far lower.
Why? Because these other countries have social safety nets that make theivery not as tempting an option for so many. People aren't as likely to join gangs or theivery rings if their basic needs are taken care of. If your taxpayer dollars went towards the needs of the people instead of for stipends to corperations, then people are less likely to feel entitled to luxury bags ad clothes that are already extremely overpriced and made by the labor of exploited people, often children.
So the issue isn't that the crime penalty is not harsh enough, the issue is poverty, Capitalism, and lack of benefits.
Another thought, so then things like from all these loses, we all pay for those price hikes. In some cases they call it inflation. How about we boycott online marketplaces. Period.
This is true. In my country robbers will be beaten near death if caught by the public and the police will just watch. No one will care and no lawyer will try to sue for the beatings.
Need to bring back to the bible days, chop off their hands, no more stealing.. so easy , solved.. lets go hands.
Now my local grocery store has shampoo, deodorant, toothpaste, and laundry detergent locked up behind plexiglass. As time goes on, they lock up more and more items in the store. Pretty soon we'll need a grocery store employee to follow us when we're shopping to unlock the cases one by one as we select items to buy.
That or we would need a scanable membership to the store to unlock cages or plexiglass.
@@DarknessReprieved that's a great idea!
Facts 💯 💯
I'd leave..
We don’t have that rampant looting here but that was like a normal thing ever since in our city. They hide those expensive items behind locked plexiglass like moisturizers, perfumes etc. Our stores here mostly have private security service at the entrance and with that scanner that will buzz if someone brings an unscanned item outside. Weird tho that US has that crazy thing in there for years and they are not like Japan lol, so why not tighten thé security. Those cctv will not do anything honestly.
The Home Depot fire was just around the corner from us - a police helicopter told us to "be prepared to move!" while my husband was up on the roof with the hose (and still-burning embers the size of dinner plates were raining down in our backyard). No exaggeration.
Utterly ridiculous and obscene to think about the potential loss of life and homes, and pets (there was a Doggie Daycare next door that had to be evacuated) - all for a few thousand dollars worth of tools.
Despicable.
I am glad to see that the online marketplace is being more closely scrutinized.
So sorry but I don't get it. Wasn't the building with sprinklers? It didn't look like it in the video. A thief burnt down the building as a distraction ploy?
@@timsteinkamp2245 Yes. A thief started a fire back in the lumber section so he could steal a bunch of powertools (pretty sure they arrested him - he was part of a ring of smash-n-grabbers etc working all over the bay area).
Yes, the store had sprinklers which may have malfunctioned(?) (I am very curious abt that btw). An employee attempted to fight the lumber fire with an extinguisher but the conflagration grew too fast. The sprinklers did appear to come on - just too little/too late.
It was a scary-fast fire.
DAMN!!! 😳 that is horrific!! Always get more info & better news from the folks in the comments than the stinkin video I swear. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻 thank goodness your home & the doggies next door didn't get hurt further 💔 thank God.
Hope youb& your family are doing OK, the stress prob made ya sick for days😔
Many many blessings dear
You lost me at dinner plates
I was at a Harbor Freight store and while checking out, I heard a commotion and doors opening fast. Turns out an old guy had walked out with a bunch of power tools and the cashier lady informed me it happens quite regularly. There needs to be harsher punishments when the risk/reward is worth it as someone else said. It shouldn't be that way
In some countries, they cut the thieves hands off
@@tashalynn29 and theft still happens. It's almost as if no deterrent will stop theft 🤔.
He was HOME FREE!!!
So are you saying that say someone stills a snack cake from Walmart .should get the same type of time as someone who say stills a whole shopping cart full of snack cakes?
Lead in the @ss should be legal irregardless if its a snack cake or power tool
Instead of trying to stop the resale, wouldn't it make more sense to stop the theft in the first place? With strict laws and more punishment?
You'd be called a racist.
@@Randorandom232 first thought which came to my mind also.
@@Randorandom232 0:31 they seem pretty white to me.
We live in a world where common sense and logic are not something people want to do
Stop the resale and you take away the incentive for the bulk of this theft. Sure you will still have people stealing stuff for their own personal use, but tackling the reseller issue will make the biggest impact to the bottom line.
I worked 15 years at Home Depot. The amount of empty packages we found daily is unreal. But because the losses come off the employee profit share program head office doesn't have to worry about it unless the amount gets higher then that. It should come out of upper managements bonuses to get them to take it seriously. You can say the floor associates need to watch their isles better but that is not possible when they cut hours to help boost managements bonuses.
Give every home depot employee more hours a tazer, a shotgun with rubber bullets and a company bonus for every incapacitated shoplifter on their tally at the end of the financial year.
Sounds like you need to invent your own 5 finger bonus... maybe you just give info and look the other way..? Take a cut.
@@ralph1881 that is not the answer.
@@manp1039 it's a step in the right direction.... management all the way to the top WILL NOT HELP, will not stop accepting ridiculous bonuses- while commoners struggle. MILLIONS!!! IT IS MORE RIGHT THAN BEING A LEMMING!! This is assertive action!
@@ralph1881 its immoral. and there are better ways to handle that situation
Years of living a dangerous life has taught me that a tough man knows when and how to get out of a situation, but a smart man never gets himself into one.
Big facts
Man who stand on toilet.....high on pot....
@@calvincandie5344 excuse me?
@@calvincandie5344 Man who drink brake fluid, can stop whenever he want.
Pooping is a 'Situation', Confucius. Checkmate-deezutz
I like how this very quickly shifts the focus from the thieves to the people websites they use to sell their stolen items. Maybe let’s focus on stopping the theft in the first place?
Exactly!! I don’t get it! what is going on…? How is it at every turn people are being let off the hook for the crimes they commit, it’s a growing trend that’s going to lead to big issue.
Research what the word "enable" means.
@mikeries8549 we should start cracking down on purchase of knives since knifes enable people to hurt other people. We should also start regulating what people can watch since youtube can enable people to have different views.
Simple shoplifting by people in need is very rare. The vast majority of the time the people shoplifting are not doing it just because they're in need. It's because they want something and are unwilling to pay the sacrifice to get that thing.
They’re making it seem like cracking down on shoplifting will only harm the single mother stealing bread, milk, and eggs from Walmart while the criminals hitting Neiman Marcus and Saks 5th Ave will go unpunished.
FB and Amazon are terrible at stopping fakes. Was browsing today and someone had a posting for an illegal drug. 🤦♂️
These talking heads saying "platforms need to do more" are missing another part of the story. The amount of false and abusive flags that hit legitimate sellers and business is huge, and crippling to some. When the companies say some of these solutions hurt lawful sales/sellers, these are true statements.
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
This is old school. Kids did this when I was young. A whole neighborhood would get together and hit the mall. A mall closed down because of all the theft that was happening.
And you are proud of your neighbors? No wonder retailers don’t want to set up in certain areas. Malls are shutting done.
Ah you must be from the hood 🥴
@Anthony Mercado You're a Bori (ask me how I know), Connecticut got some of the filthiest hoods around. Just as bad as some of those states you mentioned. Also, the prescription drug abuse is unreal. Especially in the "well to do areas." Most of them soccer moms shuffling around like zombies from all the pills they are on.
Sadly, it is things like that that destroy communities. and create poverty in communities
the tribe of Wakanda is doing the stealing and not the NEO-NAZIS
Theft should be prosecuted, no matter the amount, small items is how they start, it escalates to bigger crimes.
Start with politicians and there insider trading.
So should murder, but we don’t have that yet.
vote red
@@neverhomepnw really? Vote for the biggest thieves of all? You didn't think that one through.
Retail stores should just pull out of these criminal enabled areas. They are let back into the streets and continue this delinquent cycle. Blue states are going to lose a lot of retail stores because of this
I love how the words “while punishment for shoplifters is hotly debated” was shoved in there very quickly and bypassed in seconds lol 🙄
Criminals are arrested and released before the ink dries on the arrest paperwork.
I use to work for a company that was hired by retailers to try and best their system in any way possible. It was crazy how fast new and improved boosting methods came along before we would publicly acknowledge that we knew their current means. If I could steal 20K of product in a mock run, they would find a way to take 30K next time, in plain sight.
Bingo, we have to get to a place of respect. The world does not provide security. Whether it is savings in your account or buried in the ground or in a store by armed men.
would that be called physical penetration testing of a sort?
I worked at DD's Discount, Walmart, Nordstrom and Home Depot as Asset Protection and Loss prevention and I was more worried about the police hurting me when I was trying to stop a shoplifter. I was beaten up at Home Depot by the Odessa Police Department. Home Depot did nothing for me.
Police only protect capital
Say what?
Care to elaborate? Because most of the time the police don't get there until the thieves are gone (and you guys file charges using video), or if you manage to make the stop and wait on them to get there (which means you had a booster who actually stopped without resistance- and I don't mean physical, I mean none at all since you guys are hands off- and then also peacefully waited for the police to arrive). I don't know the details of your situation- as you didn't give them- but it sounds to me as if you likely broke your companies policy. Still not sure how you ended up getting "beat up by the police" though...
@@Dumpus7 I was out of work for more than 6 months
@@Dumpus7 criminal told the police I was assaulting his girl and the police believed them. I'm assuming the figured out I was the bad guy. It's hard to go against the police. I tried and I failed saved all the files and I will reveal them in 20 years.
These are the same companies who have politicians in their pockets, the same companies that are publicly traded on Wall Street with CEO’s making millions, and the same companies whose employees claim they treat them like a number and don’t care about anything but money. I’m sure they will find ways to continue to stay rich and powerful.
That’s the goal of a corporation, to make profit.
thats why i steal from them
@@TheSuperi9 and what about poverty people down the road? as so crime rings like targeting them and or making there life harder like stealing all of there tool's ( because paying the dealership's or anyone else is out of the question as there poor and barely can afford parts or rent/food/utility's ect ) to work on the family car and or jacking the family car so its harder to get to work on Monday morning?
That’s why I stop buying stuffs on Amazon, Alibaba, Walmart online and never brought at eBay. I still do buy online at Costco, Home Depot online. I still prefer to shop in-person where I could see/touch my products to make sure it’s “Right” for me. A little work/time consuming but still fulfilling…
And you know you're not giving your money to people selling stolen goods.
With the way inflation is there’s gonna be more and more people looking for hot deals
Right. They spend millions to combat and potentially lose billions in items instead of keeping items at a price ppl can afford
Greed happens whether there is inflation or not!
You would think inflation would get people to stop buying crap they don’t need but
@@lefthanded5473 lol this is America
Whether you steal $5 dallors or $5k dallors, stealing is stealing and I have no sympathy for thieves. They should be all punished.
What about stealing food to feed the homeless?
Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor?
Unless it’s food to eat
@@christopherbonanno1120 there food bank , and a lot organization that provide free food .. !!! not mention aid from government .. unless u miss use those service ..
agree with those so call thieves supporter that make them so bold to do what they did until one of those or their families become victims ( i never wish any of this unfortunate happen to anyone ) they will never wake up.
Corporations steal, pollute developing nations, and steal from employees. They aren’t innocent either. A lot of the same factories make both the knockoffs and brand names.
I'm in favor of prosecuting and preventing all theft.
I guess you hate poor people and love corporations… According to the civil rights corps… 4:30
@@NVGEAR Islam has a solution for thieves.... We could try that
It is overburdened, but is it more costly than all the theft?
@@Adam444Tv ,I don't hate poor people, but I dislike thieves. Do you think all poor people are thieves?
True. In my country if you caught a thief the public can beat him near death and you won't be prosecuted. Of course we don't have guns so public brawling is not deadly.
I was at Walmart last week and a woman and a man walked just ahead of me and the electronic alarm 🚨 went off! The woman said "Was that me?" and walked her basket back......but the man didn't. This made me think that she was the camouflage while he was the culprit!💔🚨😔 This kind of thief only raises prices for the consumers! They didn't have a door person present or greeter! So sad! I could have said something but by then he would have been at his or their car and ditched the item!💔😔
Good on you for not being a snitch Sue. You do know what happens to snitches right?
Don’t narc on somebody for shoplifting they could need it for food or other reasons that are a necessity Also someone could beat you up stab you or shoot you for being a narc
@@l3rlc for snitching the rule to commoner you need to get taken care of
it is possible they were in cahoots.. but it is also possible that person was making it appear like he was with her and just continued walking to not bring any attention to him while she did stop.. I saw a video of 2 people walking into a walmart.. and they were trying to use a fake receipt or had a history of trying to use fake receipts.. turns out the police were called.. and the guy had warrants for his arrest he had a concealed knife and a concealed gun. the woman with him escaped. he is now dead. What happened is, once the police said they don't want you to leave the store and not come back.. but we will take care of doing a "trespass" on you.. but we will need your ID.. that is when he started to freak out and was trying to escape. hes started to try and run.. he didnt abide by the police orders to stop.. and they had to grab him and put cuffs on him.. then he began to resist having cuffs put on.. that is when the knife was spot in under his pants. he tried to reach for the knife.. then the gun was spotted .. and he tried to reach for that.. then the police told him to stop.. but interestingly.. there was a guys.. supposedly a civillian trying to help the police.. but then the civilian yelled "he has a gun.. Shoot him!!" repeatedly.. and i began to think.. that "civilian" probably knew him.. and wanted to get him killed.. probably didn't want him to identify him as an accomplice?? the civilian disappeared and so did the woman. I have a feeling that guys was a patsy.. and easy patsy whom they could get to do crimes for them without themselves getting caught. and the final straw was actually yelling to the police to shoot him.. saying "he has a gun! Shoot him!" that seemed too professional to me.. it was a form of manipulating the police.. in star wars genre.. they call that "using the force"
And sometimes the "greeter" at WalMart treats you like they want to frisk you even tho you did nothing and just a regular customer.
One way to stop shoplifting, is to showcase the goods and merchandise on a LCD display
So customers can see what they want to buy
They would add it to a virtual Cart
At checkout, an employee will bring the items once they are paid for
Merchandise will be safe in the back
Out of sight of thieves
Stores will probably have to higher more employees, the cost savings will be enough to cover all the extra employees
Or automate the process
ARGOS in the UK does this.
I remember a store doing this over 20 years ago, can't even remember the name. Of course no lcd back then
@@xavierarizmendi You thinking of Service Merchandise? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_Merchandise
@@shaneoneill1338 wow Service Merchandise... haven't heard of that on yrs
@@shaneoneill1338 that's the one! When I was a teen I bought a BB gun from there by looking at a picture of it and taking a ticket to the cashier. It would come down a conveyer once you paid for it. It didn't seem like an inconvenience really. I went there for that model.
It's become unaffordable for the average person in this country which is why thefts are through the roof. I remember people being able to survive making minimum wage in NYC back in the 80's. Now people have to choose between paying their rent and buying groceries. This is a major problem not just in big cities but in small rural towns as well. Everyone is feeling the pinch right now and it's gonna get worse as inflation goes up.
not an excuse
I see people not giving money to corps. The price increase isn't inflation, it's too high. The increase is due to greed... people are just not getting scammed.
Oh yeah they dont need hand bags , tools or clothething .
If they were steeling to survive they steal food .
Even at that unaceplatable.
Theirs free food banks , churches , and ebt . No need to steal nothing.
I know a lot of poor people who don't shoplift, though. Most shoplifters aren't out there stealing bread and milk, my dude.
it does happen i had a coworker ( born in the usa 🇺🇸 aka 100% usa passport holder ) before i knew them they did it and the food banks/charities wouldn't help same with the 🇺🇸 governments so starve or steal lunch/jail time. i can't condone there behaviour but i understand there will to steal cheap food to live like a smaller loaf 🍞
i these cases removing poverty removes crime
now mobsters are a different problem of crime
@@richardprice5978 what does their passport have to do with anything
@@whatever5922 shows there a usa 🇺🇸 citizen and not a foreign national looking for handouts for the next 50 years as you generally need to have a green card/work visas or 🇺🇸-passport to work in the usa 🇺🇸 that or brake the law's and hope you and those how adided and embedded don't get caught by the fed's 😉 a fast way of jail time and or deportation
A few years ago I used to be wrapped up in the booster side of this. Even myself having been around it for years it would still amaze me how much would get brought to the fence guys every single day. 2 places that used to handle the most boosters could EASILY fill a Mercedes Sprinter van floor to ceiling with OTC medication everyday. On a daily basis the retail cost of the stuff they took in would be in the hundreds of thousands
I never boosted but I used to do return fraud and sell counterfeit. I did it during college then I stopped. I was never nervous, back then nobody knew the difference. I’m glad those days are behind me.
You both should have gone to jail.
Who would have thought ebay is doing more to combat theft than Amazon and Facebook.
I would ebay is great always has been better then amazon...
eBay actually hand verifies luxury items on their site. So when you buy a Rolex it's authenticated
The business modle of eBay makes it pay a lot more attention to stolen goods. Also, I don't think eBay is ever the evil one compared to amazon and FB.
Right! I used to think that EBay had all the sketchy items. Amazon is getting that way. eBay’s seems to have more protections for the buyer and will allow you to post a complaint about the seller and the product. I had a complaint about getting a fake item on Amazon and they said I couldn’t complain about the seller only the product. What?
@@q-chan4764 Just return it. I contact Amazon customer service a few time, they are very helpful compare to some internet companies.
I work in wholesale, I visit about 12 retail accounts a day and im here to tell ya, they all experience a shocking amount of theft every day and do nothing to stop it.
Don’t they factor in a certain amount of loss?
@@marilynmonheaux every retail business does account for "shrinkage" aka theft, breakage, miscounted during receiving etc.. But the theft has gone up so much once they allowed masks inside plus, the state banned plastic bags so its now common for shoppers to buy groceries and leave with a cart full without bagging, so when people skip the registers it's not obvious they didn't pay when they're leaving without bagged groceries
@@basicallybangbang Very informative. I would bet in this climate the thieves are getting really clever with it
The Home Depot security cameras that tell you to enjoy your shopping experience remind me of Idiocracy, "Welcome to Costco, I love you".
love that film
wait, wtf, seriously?!
Home Depot police would be a interesting show series .
Big brother is watching
That movie has becoming alarmingly accurate. I saw it again recently, and I didn't find it funny, as much as I did terrifying.
Stolen goods have been on Facebook and ebay for years.. I thought this was common knowledge...This is the number one market..
I hope the retailers come up with their own solutions like individual serial numbers on products and busting the boost groups, because i want to be able to sell unneeded stuff from my house without giving up my id and financial info to the tech companies.
How about having an armed security with an m1?
@@yukiosakura4969 a stick should be sufficient
I gave up on selling or giving away my deceased parent's stuff for fear of people knowing where I live. I just take that stuff to a charity like Goodwill.
I HEAR THAT!!!!
Or stop voting democrat...
I’ve got ptsd because of theft in retail. I can’t work retail anymore.
Sad
Try working in a pawnshop. There you’ll be robbed at gunpoint so often, that it will just become routine.
stop being a racist
Instead of blaming Amazon for wrongdoing what about blaming the thief?
It feels like Amazon is everyone’s scapegoat - just because they’ve become successful.
Scapegoat
Because its harder to reprimand the thief I think, I mean everybody know it's not Facebook/Amazon's fault but they are the one who hold the power here
As an ebay seller this is good, because these thieves price their items so low that we can’t even compete. And the same goes for counterfeit goods.
At my local Albertsons I used to see people shop lifting all the time. It got so bad that they now usually have armed guards at both exits. It’s sad to see this situation come to this, but their solution seems to be working.
Where is that? I bet Costlyfornia.
@@dannydaw59 no,NM, but good guess. The southwest, and west coast for that matter, are getting a little to crazy for me. I hope to move to a smaller town in the midwest someday.
Albertsons don’t exist anymore in the southeast
That's how it should be. If they steal, you shoot them.
Maybe increase minimum wage and have affordable housing in the area for people to earn a decent living to self support
It’ll be a pain for people selling item online legitimately if we end up being required to show proof of purchase. I trash receipts if I plan to keep an item.
It would also be very easy to make a seemingly legit receipt for an item, even if it was stolen. You either destroy legitimate resale, or accidentally enable fencing... stopping actual theft is much easier.
take photos, have emailed receipts, there are many ways you can keep trace of your purchase
@@kyliemiu okay, but what if i bought something a decade ago and want to sell it now
@@kyliemiuwhat if you didn't buy but a family member gave it to you? The point is, all of this is just punishing the non-criminals. What needs to be done is make the punishment for theft more severe but Noone wants to do that because there's an agenda to destroy the country.
When I worked construction I met this guys that knew a guy that paid homeless people with drugs for stealing tools. He then sold them out of his truck. This was like 6 years ago. Makes me think this is how this started. He said most people didn't want to get near homeless people and by the time the cops got there he was gone.
Home depot is robbing people with those prices, they've almost double in the past 2 years.
Living in Italy. Can't wait to visit the USA and shoplift. A new travel experience.
As a customer, I’d rather just order from Amazon or some other online shop rather than put up with waiting around for some employee to unlock the product or fix whatever is wrong with these anti theft measures. If you’re going to treat every customer as a potential criminal, I don’t see the point in shopping at your store.
agreed
ABSOLUTELY AGREE
"simple shop lifting by those in need". They know how to play with words!!.😂
People in need are being helped by the government, they don't need to steal. Only horrible people feel a need to steal, we don't live in a third world country in which there is no help for the needy.
Can I come into your house and take things because I “need” them more than you do?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
I absolutely hate going to homedepot and not being able to take my milwaukee tools to the cashier, I have to wait for someone to come and unlock it. They just treat everyone like criminals
The aren't YOUR Milwaukee tools until you pay for them, that's why. If they don't lock stuff up that is being commonly stolen, there won't be any Milwaukee tools left for you to even buy.
you can thank blm for that one
I prefer Lowe's when I have to go get something for a construction job.
@@bigbob7021 I used to work in department stores years ago; 90% of the ones the cops were hauling off to jail were black.
Bc you probably look like one
If you don't have punishment, all amateurs become professionals.
it all started with the rampant looting during the protests.
Why does somebody stealing a saw bother you so much?
@@avonfettydale9166 isn't the question, why does stealing bother you so little?
it says something about your morality when you find one of the oldest social principles, the aversion to stealing, one that's even present in the animal kingdom, doesn't bother you.
Oh, is this why I had to do all that just to sell my old textbooks? I ended up selling them to a different place instead because it was too much of a hassle to list them on Amazon lately.
This could be the end of going anonymous if this bill passes. I understand they are trying to protect goods from being sold if they were stolen, but I have a feeling this could create more problems and could invade people's privacy.
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
Also why not just mandate big box retailers to track this info differently vs passing legislation? Tax them for not having the protocols in place. Legislation gets in the way and affects everyone as a result of a small few. Taxing big company marketplaces for not fixing these problems is a better approach
We already don’t have privacy that’s always their solution punish the law abiding citizen with authoritarian reactions because of criminals actions.
@@censoredfromtheinternet3110 If there is anything I learned from playing Watch Dogs pretty soon in the future everyone is going to be spied on. Its inevitable but its going to happen.
@@iamjohnporter67 yes the fourth industrial revolution brought to you by the world health organization and all the other “elites”
To Home Depot, if you read comments. I’ve seen too many cashiers wave someone on even when the alarm is set off as a patron leaves the store without checking whether or not an item(s) has been paid for. Retailers need to start putting tracking devices in random items, such as these retailers who are experiencing the smash-and-grab situations.
@CharlesNemon In a way I don't blame the workers for doing this. Why should a person who makes minimum wage be responsible in protecting a multi billion dollar company. You never know if cart checking will lead to violence. Let them hire trained security personal and pay them the wage they deserve
lol you suggest company's/stores start putting tracking devices in their products so they can track you once you leave their store? Yeah that'd be nice for the products that get stolen but id say like 99% of the products are bought legitimately so I'd definitely not be ok with going to the store and buying some stuff and having the off chance there is a tracker in one of the products I just bought..
Fraud, theft, scams… seems everyone is doing it and when everyone participates in bad behavior, society becomes a literal hell.
Capitalist society is already a hell.
@@Pyasa.shaitan What is your “solution”?
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@@mantrapalsingh Feelings are not an economic system.
Reward the criminals, punish the customers. My husband refuses to shop at stores with security sensors. I wish I could. It's so offensive to know that people are stealing items from everywhere, and we the consumer have to pay the price. It's the degradation of mankind, and morally bankrupt humans that don't have any ethics or character. The world we live in is in the toilet!
They dump the security of their products on employees who make cump change and then go surprised pikachu when their crap gets lifted. Imagine getting security and just protecting your goods. At some point it became the responsibility of the state to protect your business, in reality it is the business who should be protecting itself.
Not only that, they want to state to attack the competition and regular citizens to make it easier for them
Well said!
If the state punish ALL theft even 2 dollar gums, life will be so much better
what you are saying is they don't pay enough for employees to provide security for the products in teh store? It is my impression.. that many stores hire employees that specifically work in "Loss prevention" and also they hire security guards to also monitor and apprehend thieves?
@@manp1039 That would literally be the point, however most of these locations have zero security at all at any hour of the day even in rough places just to cut down labor hours.
The country can not afford to jail/capture every single criminal in the country who torrents a Disney film or lifts an over priced drill from home depot at the same time as charging functionally zero taxes on these same companies when they do business.
If you don't want your drills lifted hire some guards, buy some locked cases or better yet pay liveable wages so we don't have roaming bands of shoplifters who can't afford to eat and pay rent if they work in your store. The idea that these companies want to run with is pay nothing in taxes and let the government stop all the shoplifting, they don't get both. They can have the c suit bonuses they have grown addicted to or they can have police on every corner, the money has to go somewhere and these guys have chosen not to pay for public services and instead capture as much profit as possible. No one should have sympathy for people living the consequences of their own actions as is the case with these retailers.
Maybe, liken to guns & ammo, Micro stamping all items costing more than a set value (25$?) wotj seroa; mi,ber om am easily visible location. With the number held in a federal location, requiring transfer papers.
If people don't have legitimate career/job opportunities, theft becomes a career.
Counterfeit goods and stolen goods are two very different categories. Putting them together to make the numbers look much larger, shows a bias in this documentary. Damages from sales of counterfeit goods is a much more serious issue then stolen goods especially online and on a global scale. There is more to the story.
and here I am buying all my stuff like a damn fool 😂
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Lmao. Mamon. 😂
Makes me question everything people buy online and swear it’s a deal!
ever watch 'forensic detectives'? if a murderer leaves fingerprints on a plastic bucket purchased at wal-mart, that person's account details, face, vehicle, purchases and payment are all produced for law enforcement, including where and when it was made, which store and cashier sold it and video evidence of it being purchased and loaded into a vehicle, from multiple angles. Every. Single. Item., going back years.
Telling how you investigate stolen merchandise by doing this and that. Great info to them!
Yes I wass thinking how i can make some money
Hi Katy. Thanks for this news item. I could watch & listen to you on this subject all day long & on almost any other subject actually. You make for very compelling viewing 🥰
Why are we acting like there is an acceptable level of theft? There should be increased punishments for both petty and organized shoplifters. Before California changed their shoplifting laws, there were less of these crimes. Poor or rich, I am not going to feel sorry for criminals. I'm liberal, but not I'm not lawless. Throw these people in jail!
Amazon treats their warehouse workers like slaves. Secondly this video gives me another reason to not shop on Amazon- they don't appear to be doing enough to combat stolen merchandise.
@ScammersHub Facts!!!!
where are you going to shop then?
Amazon also ruined the union election in Bessimer Alabama.
I work at an Amazon warehouse. They treat me really well.
I'm currently working at Amazon. Not sure where you get your facts that we're being treated like slaves.
I would advise you to keep your mouth shut if you never work for them
When working at lowes people would shoplift all the time. The staff didn’t care at all.
More like they can't, since they can get fired for interfering
THEFT IS THEFT, THOSE “IN NEED,” NEED TO GET A JOB AND PAY FOR ITEMS AS MANY OF US DO..
Imagine buying stuff online and it gets to you and doesn't work because it was stolen.
Just report the seller to the Ebay security and their account will be banned...(a few days later) oh look they set up a new account using a stolen identity oh darn.
Or, you go to jail for buying it.
Imagine being gullible enough to buy a brand new power tool marked half off from some guy with a made up name and never questioning whether it was stolen or not.
At the core of this issue is our inability to face the facts and handle these crimes with the harsh punishments that they deserve.
Why choose to complicate things and dance around the obvious??? Stop making up extra theories to justify these shoplifting crimes.
Exactly, we seem to ignore the patterns because we are scared of being called ‘racist’. There is a massive epidemic of this sort of behaviour amongst a certain group that needs to be addressed…
It's like I have a free Netflix subscription with this channel. I love it 👏👏
how about we stop the bigger problem of corporations stealing from us lol These corporations sell this to pass laws through . Little by little they are just eliminating competition. It's funny how they promote less regulation on what they can do but fight for more regulation on the consumer.
@@elvisherrera960 mmkay so...where is your big tv episode entirely free of corporate interference, huh? What do you have against these laws? And if yoir whole eliminating competition argument was valid then why did I mention them separate from netflix?
@@juliahart8593 tell me what making it difficult as an individual to sell online has to do with stopping crime? You stop stealing at the source from inside the store . I Don't have an issue with harsher punishment on stealing it's all the other crap they are pushing through. They are masking it because fools believe the crap they promoted.
I don't buy items online that may be stolen; I only buy from legitimate retailers, however there are many people that buy new items cheap online, knowing full well that only stolen items would be cheaper than retail. The other reason I only buy from legitimate online sellers is to avoid the possibility of buying fake merchandise.
Home Depot needs to up their game on stolen ID and stolen credit card information. Places all over have neglected to check ID when customers pay with cards. I personally have not been asked to show ID for years (almost before COVID and masks). Security has fallen short in person as well as online.
It's crazy how much Congress and companies worry about all kinds of theft except wage theft which is significantly higher than every single type of theft combined sitting at 50 billion annually. Also companies rarely face consequences for their blatant theft
Instead stealing they just take it and walk away, what can you do about it? You lose your job if you trying to stop them
That's crazy 🤪
My sister works at a grocery store in a shopping center. Next to her store is a T-Mobile. One night, less than 20 minutes after she left work, an organized group broke all the windows at the T-Mobile and cleaned them out. They have bars on their windows now. This problem is spreading! Something needs to be done to stop these organized rings. It makes me hesitate to buy things online, unless I know the seller is legit.
Products are locked and you cant find anyone to unlock it. Prices go up for everyone.
Lol
Yep. As much as people may complain about how these companies are already "big enough," the truth is that these losses eventually get passed on to the customers as even further increased prices
Insane the volume of stolen goods being moved here. I went tv shopping and the amount of people I met selling stolen high end tvs was insane just in my local area.
If you keep them in jail, they can't steal anything.
You have to feed them for ever lol, why not just cut their hand off
@@jimmyhoac7 How about not feeding them?
Jail don't last long though. There's always a release date
The ones caught on film were all black. The one showed on the computer screen were all white.
I heard: "Make it easier for poor thieves to steal stuff." Pathetic.
Under the cover that they are just stealing to feed their families.
So I’m stealing power tools to get food on my table? As opposed to actually stealing food?
CNBC contradicted itself in its own report. It distinguised between organized criminal gangs and petty thieves. Later, they said organized crime gangs hire individual thieves.
They can't even keep a report honest, so do you think they did not lie more everyday?
Interesting how alot of the blame is placed on the marketplaces providing an easy outlet for criminals to sell stolen merch, but nothing on cracking down on criminals for commiting the thefts?
These people are why we can't have nice things. Hold them accountable!
Such a narrow-minded normie reply
@@nadias6435 🤣
Nice things no longer exist, only nice-looking, made cheap and sold for vast profit things. The greater the market cap, the more the company subscribes to this philosophy. Also, businesses factor shrinkage into their forecasts, they expect it to happen and hope it remains below threshold. Holding anyone accountable won't change this.
@@Psycandy you should travel more my friend, you'd be shocked
"Shrink" is the total loss most retail stores deal with on an annual year, or the total percent of revinue lost due to shoplifting, employee theft, and miscalculatons from the store. Shoplifting by customers make up only 1/3 of this number. "Shrink" makes up less than 1% of most retail store loss, even when accounting for organized theft.
So while listing shoplifted goods online is a serious issue as it allows a coverup for bootleggers and the like to sell counterfeit goods, which can be dangerous. When you act as if shoplifting is a major problem for shops, you are talking about these retail stores losing 0.33% of their annual income.
The overwhelming majority of shops dealing with this organized crime are not small mom-and-pop shops, they are large name-brand corperations.
Great now people stealing will now be aware of this and find a way around it thanks for sharing.
Also they deserve to have their stuff stolen considering they steal from the people that shop there. For example Walmart steals 300+ million dollars from it's customers every two years and many companies does crap like this keep going at it people you're not stealing you're reclaiming it just hopefully you're giving it back to the people and not just yourself.
This is why I do not like these "shop" or "marketplace" stuff as how do I know I am not buying stolen goods. Walmart, Target, and several other merchants now have these "marketplaces" and no longer carry the iems that I used to order online and pickup in the store. They are fueling the problem they are fighting against. Just let me buy from your supply chain like I always have, because I need to purchase other things in store anyway so just me pick up the items that you don't have on your shelves! It more revenue that way as I am buying more than what I ordered. Kudos to Home Depot for upgrading their carts to stop roll out shoplifting as well as the usual cart theft and abandonment.
If you do some basic research and use common sense youd know if you were buying stolen goods.
Would having a checkout like Costco uses (where someone at the door checks your purchase against the receipt) alleviate some of the problem? I wonder if Costco suffers significant theft?
Not to mention the monitoring/ID check on the way in. And high number of staff compared to a place like Walgreens. I was also wondering about Costco.
None of this is gonna work without correct punishment. We're just running a catch and release program. No real punishment.
Makes me afraid to buy from Amazon. You don't know if it's bad.
It’s reparations from slavery they are victims
LV could solve this problem in a heartbeat by adding serials to their product. Of course they don't want to do this because that could help people see how much of their overpriced crap they are shoveling out every year.
Serial numbers don’t have to be serial, they could be random letters and/or numbers so it doesn’t reveal how many were made.
@@johnsmith1882-x2i They have to be unique, which means people can track them and count how much overpriced trash LV is dumping out. LV intentionally does not serialize their products, nor do they provide any way to authenticate them.
I'm surprised Sears even still has products left to steal.
First, most obvious clue for consumers is that the person you’re buying from has power tools new in the box. Unless they’re liquidators or genuine retailer, you can pretty much assure yourself that the tools are stolen. Multiple unused, boxed power tools? Who spends $300 on a circular saw and never so much as cracks the box? Well, duh.
Someone who actually utilizes the BOGO or Buy More Save More Deals. If you actually follow tools you'd understand. Not everything is black and white.
@@sc-ie6kg not even…just deals period. I follow so many couponing pages and its crazy how many big ticket items u can buy for cheap and get many at once and resale. Its not stolen they just get such a good deals🤷🏻♀️
The truth is I really don’t care if it’s stolen as long as I get a deal on it. Why pay double at the store if I’m barely making it through financially with everything going on? I’ll take the 50% off
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I will all day too I don’t care if I buy stolen goods as long as I get them cheap that’s all I care about as long as it’s not stolen from me
I finally realized those way too good to be true online deals really are. Sorry for my part in buying looted stuff 🙁. I hope we get this under control.
15:40 there is no reason the government needs the account information for 700,000 accounts
YEP
When criminals get no punishment, hold no accountable, this will continue to rise
this is a pretty safe and lucrative business for criminals when you know that your chances of getting prosecuted are low especially in states like California
it's tricky to off-load the expensive luxury brands on Amazon. Let us tell you exactly how to get around the restrictions...
What they did was charge higher fees, tax you to death and have you verify to sell as if you are applying for a job. Very annoying and not cody effective, unless yout goods ARE stolen!
one of the best put together and subsequently explained statistical info-docs I've seen in a while.
who ever the investigative journalist(s) were assigned to this guy really stole the show 👍
Now, if less people would buy online, we could further reduce the risk of buying stolen goods.
Online shopping wasn't a thing 30 years ago and people survived just fine.
what if amazon is indirectly stealing from apple and again keeping the same stuff in the amazon store
Home Depot is the best. Love that place and return policy is awesome.
Zuckerberg and Facebook: welcome to the marketplace. We won’t ask and you don’t have to tell.
Don’t ask, don’t tell !!
What other marketplace vet sellers? They all pretty much the same.
You create and account with them and list your item.
@@albertop0000 the others that “vet sellers” along with how they “vet” said sellers is LITERALLY in the video. Try to keep up.
this sounds like a crony power grab by the IRS
From my side of the Atlantic, I would say that if there is a market for stolen infant formula, maybe the issue is not the people stealing it or the marketplaces allowing them to sell. Maybe the issue is way higher in the country's organization and responsibilities.
There is a big difference between stolen iPhone and stolen infant formula.
Maybe not in the land of the free...
Yeah but wage theft is way worse and no one ever gets punished. It is only not okay when poor people and crinminals steal bu not when rich people do it.
Why does the government need us legit sellers, bank account number?
We already have to pay taxes on anything over $600. There's no reason for them to need out bank account.
To track people for racketeering… Patriot Act already gives them you bank info to track where money comes and goes. We are losing our democracy slowly and it’s a mess